wow

Is it bad that watching all I could think of was a bunch of deep voices repeating Koyaanisqatsi...

Hmmm... seems like they need to work on the parachute design.

+1 video is +1

Oops. So one chute did fail.

and...

CtrlAltDelete: Is it bad that watching all I could think of was a bunch of deep voices repeating Koyaanisqatsi...

No shiat ;)

Very cool, but I want to see the footage of the upper portion's descent. I don't think they put parachutes on that one. It likely made a satisfying splash when it hit the water.

SpinStopper: No shiat ;)

Same thing happened with Dr. Manhattan's story during The Watchmen. The whole time all I could think of was this scene.

CtrlAltDelete: SpinStopper: No shiat ;)

Same thing happened with Dr. Manhattan's story during The Watchmen. The whole time all I could think of was this scene.

That's the scene.

I saw it for the first time of the Challenger disaster. My brother had it playing on one TV with the sound up, and the Challenger coverage on another with the sound off. Very surreal.

33% fail rate on the chutes - that's pretty awful, considering the experience level with Shuttle SRBs.

Although given the amount of Ares-hate by the about-to-be-unemployed KSC Shuttle staff, would employee sabotage be that unlikely?

Filmed from a Cessna Skymaster???

I love me some Cessna planes, but doesn't NASA have enough money left for a chase plane that might be... oh, I don't know... a jet??

Rain-Monkey: I love me some Cessna planes, but doesn't NASA have enough money left for a chase plane that might be... oh, I don't know... a jet??

Station keeping is a lot easier at prop-driven speeds.

DarthBrooks: Station keeping is a lot easier at prop-driven speeds.

Ok. Here is a station-keeping mother:



Man, this is AMERICA. I want NASA to be flying some ultra-high performance scramjet with cameras that use scintillated platinum apertures just for the launch photos.

DarthBrooks: 33% fail rate on the chutes - that's pretty awful, considering the experience level with Shuttle SRBs.

Although given the amount of Ares-hate by the about-to-be-unemployed KSC Shuttle staff, would employee sabotage be that unlikely?

They likely designed it to allow for one parachute to fail every time and to still have a 'within spec' landing.

As an engineer, I'd rather have one chute fail just to see what would happen and to gather that extremely useful data. It's better to tell the 'mucky-mucks' that if one fails, this is exactly what to expect.

And I'm pretty sure the two contracts are kept quite separate. Usually that's a requirement when you're dealing with one organization doing more than one contract. They don't want you spending money on one project out of the budget of the other... also there's some anti-trust issues that make lawyers spooge.

CtrlAltDelete: Is it bad that watching all I could think of was a bunch of deep voices repeating Koyaanisqatsi...

Oh dear. Junior-year film class just came rushing back to me.

Bonus: Sweet prandtl glauert shock cloud on descent

I thought I told you to stop making up animal names!

Bonus: Sweet prandtl glauert shock cloud on descent

Should I check for what that term means on Urban Dictionary?

That video was fantastic and the shock cloud looked to be right where it transitioned to subsonic. I'm sad about the chutes :(

portscanner: Bonus: Sweet prandtl glauert shock cloud on descent

Should I check for what that term means on Urban Dictionary?

Nescio quid dicas: portscanner: Bonus: Sweet prandtl glauert shock cloud on descent

Should I check for what that term means on Urban Dictionary?

I guess, based on your reply, rule #35 applies here?

portscanner: I guess, based on your reply, rule #35 applies here?

wut?

The payload placeholder was also hit during separation, oops. Take a look at the chutes again, I say more like a 50% failure, as the left's effectiveness had obviously been compromised by the failed chute.

Breadhead: The payload placeholder was also hit during separation, oops. Take a look at the chutes again, I say more like a 50% failure, as the left's effectiveness had obviously been compromised by the failed chute.

They're still working on the chutes and haven't completed testing yet.

This video was not interesting.

Wow!!! You can put an extra section and an empty tank on an SRB and it flys! AMAZING!! This is the future of space travel!

This video was cool - watched the launch from the beach, was wondering how it was gonna come down.

portscanner: Bonus: Sweet prandtl glauert shock cloud on descent

Should I check for what that term means on Urban Dictionary?

Basically, momentary vapor clouds that appear around objects moving at transonic speeds due to air pressure wackiness. The F-22 picture posted is a prime example.

That's the coolest publicity stunt I've ever seen. And to think it all happened during the first AND last flight of Ares.

When it was on the way down and the last of the solid propellant was burning off, it looked just like a lit cigarette. Maybe NASA should see if it can get a Marlboro sponsorship.

Bacontastesgood: Wow!!! You can put an extra section and an empty tank on an SRB and it flys! AMAZING!! This is the future of space travel!

You'd be amazed how many self described rocket scientists suggested it wouldn't...
There were more that said it would shake itself apart, or go off course, or even explode just after it left the pad. Because an SRB booster from ATK just isn't the same as one made by Boeing or some other contractor.

The nay saying is what drives rocket programs into doing seemingly redundant tests even on systems that "look right". Not to mention that if they kicked this launch three years down the road to do something more like the Ares I-Y test, or an all up launch of the real thing, politics would probably have killed this long before now.

The aim was to put some engineering concerns to bed while keeping the program alive in the public's eye. To that end it was a success.

FTFA:
The videographer used a gyro-stabilized high-definition camera system mounted to the outside of the aircraft to capture this spectacular footage...

Too bad the zoom was broken.

Sweet prandtl glauert

This is going to be my new expression of amazement. If I can figure out how to pronounce it.

Example: Sweet prandtl glauert! Tebow's pass was incomplete!

Bacontastesgood: Wow!!! You can put an extra section and an empty tank on an SRB and it flys! AMAZING!! This is the future of space travel!

Yeah, scaling up a proven design is trivial and always works. No need to do any testing or anything. Oh wait, that's bullshiat (new window).

3:50 mark

I got to watch this from my office window (from 40 miles away in Orlando). Got a decent view through binoculars, including the shock wave mentioned above (small, but I could still see it forming around the booster).

Forgive my ignorance, but is this thing even a significant advancement in manned space flight?

When are we going to work on going faster and further?

Apparently, the parachutes on the shuttle's solid boosters fail from time to time. Why that would be I have no idea. I don't remember Apollo parachutes not working - happily.

bobbarker02: When are we going to work on going faster and further?

That's why its a capsule and not a shuttle. The capsule can re-enter at a higher velocity, surprisingly.

mhix01: Why that would be I have no idea. I don't remember Apollo parachutes not working - happily.

The SRB weighs quite a bit more than the capsule, without fuel.

Cailin Tinn: This video was cool - watched the launch from the beach, was wondering how it was gonna come down.

Seriously?

Cailin Tinn: This video was cool - watched the launch from the beach, was wondering how it was gonna come down.

gravity

NASA sucks and should be destroyed with fire.

RoyBatty: Cailin Tinn: This video was cool - watched the launch from the beach, was wondering how it was gonna come down.

Seriously?

Dangnabbit! I need to finish reading threads before posting.

HagarTheHorrible

Very cool, but I want to see the footage of the upper portion's descent. I don't think they put parachutes on that one.

View from the booster recovery ship. (new window)

It likely made a satisfying splash when it hit the water.

Aye, laddie. (new window)

Breadhead

The payload placeholder was also hit during separation, oops.

Was it actually? The earlier vid of separation made it seem so thanks to the angle of view, and this one is too far away to call it one way or another.

Take a look at the chutes again, I say more like a 50% failure, as the left's effectiveness had obviously been compromised by the failed chute.

There are some kinks to work out, obviously. (new window)

Was the upper stage even filled with anything? Why is all the coverage about the SRB? This footage SO reminds me of my old Estes model rocket fays.

bobbarker02: Forgive my ignorance, but is this thing even a significant advancement in manned space flight?

When are we going to work on going faster and further?

It's PR and saber rattling. There's nothing up there. I've yet to see the vaunted paybacks of space exploration. There are none. The space nuts usually get it exactly backwards, space exploration depends on breakthroughs that come about because of business uses and war. Not the other way around. Computers, ICs and velcro didn't come into being because NASA wanted to go to the Moon, NASA used them because they already existed.

No ball bearings made in orbit. No ultra-pure materials purified in free fall. You know why? We can do just as well down here.

Humans just don't do well in space. Our bodies start to disintegrate and we bring every molecule we need with us. Because there's nothing up there. We also don't live long enough to do much if we decide to explore further. We have the lifespan of a gnat and we want to swim the Atlantic?

We need life extension research.

Awesome video is awesome.

Rain-Monkey: Filmed from a Cessna Skymaster???

I love me some Cessna planes, but doesn't NASA have enough money left for a chase plane that might be... oh, I don't know... a jet??

The airplane in question is not operated by NASA, but by a contractor. And why spend more money than you have to?

I saw this video already. The year was 1967 and I saw the Ares launch. In those days they called it a Saturn V. Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah, I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Give me five bees for a quarter," you'd say.

clutchcargo2009

And why spend more money than you have to?

Indeed. Let the cost-cutting continue.

Quantum Apostrophe: It's PR and saber rattling. There's nothing up there. I've yet to see the vaunted paybacks of space exploration. There are none. The space nuts usually get it exactly backwards, space exploration depends on breakthroughs that come about because of business uses and war. Not the other way around. Computers, ICs and velcro didn't come into being because NASA wanted to go to the Moon, NASA used them because they already existed.

No ball bearings made in orbit. No ultra-pure materials purified in free fall. You know why? We can do just as well down here.

Humans just don't do well in space. Our bodies start to disintegrate and we bring every molecule we need with us. Because there's nothing up there. We also don't live long enough to do much if we decide to explore further. We have the lifespan of a gnat and we want to swim the Atlantic?

We need life extension research.

Skylab. Spacelab. Oh look, a whole website about the science achieved because of the ISS found using a simple Google search (popitty). Not too mention that just about everything we send into space from GPS to cell phone satellites is using launch vehicles developed from our manned space exploration programs. But I suppose not too many folks have heard of things like the Atlas rockets because of people like you.

Congratulations, I now declare you thread retard, here is your hotlink:



As for your little nihilism thing, that's, like, your opinion, man. Considering how hard space is, we've been doing okay for just 60 years of it. You may not get to have sex with cloned Orion slave girls over Io, but your grandkids might.

CtrlAltDelete: Is it bad that watching all I could think of was a bunch of deep voices repeating Koyaanisqatsi...

This.

The scene for those who haven't seen it. One of the most beautiful and haunting sequences ever put on film.

RoyBatty: Cailin Tinn: This video was cool - watched the launch from the beach, was wondering how it was gonna come down.

Seriously?

Heh, oops. Bad wording. No, I know it was going to come down by gravity, thanks supek. I was wondering about the parachutes.