No, they really don't mean a lot. Creigh Deeds has run a shiat campaign, New Jersey is all over the farking place and would never vote a Republican to national office, and NY-23 is a complete electoral clusterfark.

Dude, the WHARBLGARBL trolly-ness of the Politics tab is getting to be a bit much. Fark, your Kentucky is showing.

pro-tip: If you get outraged about EVERYTHING, no one takes you serious about ANYTHING

there are lots of dial positions between 1 and 10

According to Bono, rock is dead/dying, so that's bad news for Obama.

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If Corzine loses NJ, there is serious egg on Obama's face.

If a conservative politician gets elected in a small district that always elects conservative politicians, it will change everything. Palin Power!

ps69: If a conservative politician gets elected in a small district that always elects conservative politicians, it will change everything. Palin Power!

Jersey?

amazing_live_seamonkeys: .

DAMN YOU

Oh they mean plenty. Republicans are losing their party.

soy_bomb: If Corzine loses NJ, there is serious egg on Obama's face.

If republicans gain any ground after what we've seen, we should all be ashamed.

amazing_live_seamonkeys: .

Better one.

Arugula doesn't appear in the article either.

Like the fact that a conservative candidate backed by much of the Republican orthodoxy is poised to win a district (NY-23) that hasn't put a democrat into office since 1886, is telling of a drop in support for Obama at the national level?

As Fishy Fred points out, governor's races are seldom tied to national issues and anyone can point to numerous states which routinely elect governors from a different party than the president the state voted for in the last election.

Shryke: amazing_live_seamonkeys: .

DAMN YOU

Low hanging fruit and all that.

FishyFred: No, they really don't mean a lot. Creigh Deeds has run a shiat campaign, New Jersey is all over the farking place and would never vote a Republican to national office, and NY-23 is a complete electoral clusterfark.

You need some cheese to go with your whine.

soy_bomb: If Corzine loses NJ, there is serious egg on Obama's face.

Corzine's approval numbers have been in the tank since at least the budget crisis a few years ago. Obama can only do so much.

Did you know that Virginia has never elected a governor the same party as the president? It's true.

They don't mean anything.

FiveThirtyEight has a pretty good analysis of why such races mean very little as predictors of Presidential or Congressional ballots.

That having been said, I will be equally disappointed if the White House postures a Democrat win as relevant, as I will the other way around.

Trey Le Parc: You need some cheese to go with your whine.

I grew up in New Jersey, 18 years. Then I left home and went to college in D.C., where I've now lived for four-plus years. I know what I'm talking about.

FishyFred: No, they really don't mean a lot. Creigh Deeds has run a shiat campaign, New Jersey is all over the farking place and would never vote a Republican to national office, and NY-23 is a complete electoral clusterfark.

What? NJ was republican up until 1988. Besides burbs always vote red. It's also a swing state for the governor office traditionally. Dem gets in, people get pissed vote in a Republican, pissed off at him vote a Dem...back and forth.

The republican party means nothing... Fiscal and Social Conservatism is what matters.

Personally, I would like to see political parties outlawed and let people run on what THEY believe in as opposed to their party!

Psumek: What? NJ was republican up until 1988. Besides burbs always vote red.

New Jersey is a massively different place today. Newark is dark blue and the suburban split is pretty close. I chalk this up to a few significant Jewish population centers, proximity to major cities, positive experiences with public schools, and a complete and utter disaster of a state Republican party.

wet_dream: Personally, I would like to see political parties outlawed

You get on that. First you need to amended the constitution.