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The defining characteristic beliefs of Neo-Socialism: Capitalism has failed, government should compete with business, big government is good, and believing in (and enjoying) America's decline



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Adjective Bird Whiskey
2009-11-03 10:53:32 AM


No. Stop it.

 
FlashHarry
2009-11-03 10:54:24 AM


insta-green!

 
Weaver95
2009-11-03 10:54:49 AM


hrm. how come my blog posts never get greenlit to the front page?

 
unlikely
2009-11-03 10:57:02 AM


"Not-very-slow transformation into a banana republic" is not "decline" per se.

 
patrick767
2009-11-03 10:57:05 AM


Libs hate America! Wharrrhurrrrrderpgharrrbl!

/your blog sucks ass
//who the fark greenlit this shiat? It's bad and you should feel bad, admin.

 
FlashHarry
2009-11-03 10:57:48 AM


"The defining characteristic beliefs of Neo-Socialism:"

• Capitalism has failed - laissez-faire, trickle-down capitalism has failed, yes.
• Government should compete with business - sometimes, yes.
• Big government is good - sometimes, yes, but often, no.
• Believing in (and enjoying) America - no. in fact it is "conservatives" who are actively cheering for the country to fail right now.

 
oldfarthenry
2009-11-03 10:57:59 AM


Maybe you butthurt righties should use those bootstraps to tie your mouths shut so you can get some productive work done.

 
unlikely
2009-11-03 10:58:03 AM


Weaver95: hrm. how come my blog posts never get greenlit to the front page?

They need to be more freeptastic.

I'm kind of surprised this went green, though - the PITA actually points to red, and freep links with an honest PITA almost never get approved.

 
Obdicut
2009-11-03 10:58:35 AM


Weaver95: hrm. how come my blog posts never get greenlit to the front page?

Man, that's sad.

Though you have a fair point; this blog makes arguments just as shiatty as yours, and assaults strawmen with just as much fervor.

 
IndyMBA
2009-11-03 10:58:53 AM


This blog is only interesting if the definition of "interesting" now includes the phrase "mind-numbingly stupid".

 
VoxPersonaque
2009-11-03 10:59:12 AM


Seriously... Submitting some random a-hole's blog entries to Fark should be grounds for being shot.

 
ne2d
2009-11-03 11:02:37 AM


Ooo, "Neo-Socialism." That's good. Almost as scary-sounding as "Neo-Conservatism."

 
Racht
2009-11-03 11:04:13 AM


Just keep saying socialism over and over and over, thinking it will scare people. Eventually people will start to realize that the policies they actually like are the ones you've been calling socialist. We get the Overton Window moved for us!

 
patrick767
2009-11-03 11:04:29 AM


ne2d
Ooo, "Neo-Socialism." That's good. Almost as scary-sounding as "Neo-Conservatism."

Except that the political philosophy of neoconservatism really exists and came to the fore under Bush. But yeah, other than that, it's close!

 
patrick767
2009-11-03 11:05:24 AM


Racht
Eventually people will start to realize that the policies they actually like are the ones you've been calling socialist.

The Real Americans won't! Ignorance is a virtue.

 
Thorak
2009-11-03 11:06:11 AM


Capitalism hasn't "failed". It's a wild success. The problem is that people were deluded into thinking that Capitalism was about the betterment of everyone, when instead it's about the betterment of those lucky enough to catch the breaks to become wealthy.

The myth that is failing is the idea that hard work is all one needs to succeed. Hard work makes you a good cog in the engine, but that's it.

As a whole, the Western nations are vastly wealthier than they were 100 years ago; the average person need not worry about starvation, nor are they on a subsistence wage. That said, the top 5% of the population, wealth-wise, holds a much greater proportion of the wealth than they did 100 years ago, as well. So while lower and middle class have made more money and become more comfortable, the rich have profited far, far more, exponentially so.

Which is great, if you're rich. If you're not, there's probably a better economic system for us to be using.

 
sweetmelissa31
2009-11-03 11:09:19 AM


By "neo-socialism" do you mean Keynesian economics?

 
DamnYankees
2009-11-03 11:09:31 AM


1. A belief in the concept that capitalism has failed, but can be resuscitated by a new partnership between government and business. This new partnership will be inherently more fair to more people.

No. The belief is that capitalism is a tool used to achieve certain ends, and should not be used as a panacea.

2. A belief that competition isn't necessarily bad, and that government can and should be permitted to compete with private industry.

Sometimes, sure.

3. A belief that big government isn't necessarily bad; what is bad is BAD big government. Big, effective government is desirable.

The idea of "big" government is dumb. There's no metric on deciding if a government is too big or to small. Is there a right size? All there is is different sectors of life, and we need to decide which are better left up to the market and which are better left up to a democratized monopoly.

4. A belief in the transcendent quality of the world community while de-valuing national interests.

I don't know what "transcendent" means in this sentence.

 
Action Replay Nick
2009-11-03 11:11:10 AM


"and believing in (and enjoying) America's PERCEIVED decline"

I would say that currently this is something Republicans are jerking off to, not 'neo-Socialists'.

I know I am anyway. Thanks for ruining the country, Barnaby Sotoeni Hussein. It makes my homoerotic Mad Max fantasies one step closer to reality.

 
Mordant
2009-11-03 11:12:05 AM


Ok, everyone start doing their customary dance. Today's piece of work has been assigned and set up to go.

 
kitryne
2009-11-03 11:13:33 AM


You see where this guy made his first mistake, is that he completely overshot the mark. If he would have said "neo-liberalism" instead of pulling out the big scary boogeyman of socialism, he probably could have reeled a few misguided moderate people into his view a little better. That's what they always do, though. We called their pot black, they're not just gonna call our kettle 'black' back, they have to go and call it 'so black that light bends' which, frankly, is just silly because then how would you see the kettle to buy it in the first place?

well shiat, that train of thought got sort of derailed at the end but I stand by it.

 
patrick767
2009-11-03 11:15:10 AM


Thorak
The myth that is failing is the idea that hard work is all one needs to succeed. Hard work makes you a good cog in the engine, but that's it.

More Americans Falling For 'Get Rich Slowly Over A Lifetime Of Hard Work' Schemes (new window)

 
vygramul
2009-11-03 11:19:32 AM


FlashHarry: "The defining characteristic beliefs of Neo-Socialism:"

• Capitalism has failed - laissez-faire, trickle-down capitalism has failed, yes.
• Government should compete with business - sometimes, yes.
• Big government is good - sometimes, yes, but often, no.
• Believing in (and enjoying) America - no. in fact it is "conservatives" who are actively cheering for the country to fail right now.


Pretty much came here to say this. The first three points aren't terribly unfair, but the fourth point starts off ok but confuses liberalism with Chomsky.

 
Petit_Merdeux
2009-11-03 11:19:38 AM


FlashHarry: these douchebags really need to look up the word "socialism"

Who is Brian Moore?

 
GAT_00
2009-11-03 11:21:18 AM


So we green some random assholes' blog now if it says good Republican things?

 
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