I know, I can't believe they registered as Republicans either, or for that matter, live in Iowa. Why would a person do that?

"I really thought there would be immediate change," she said.

Well there's your problem.

boy, the so-called liberal media has really been lambasting obama lately. yet the guy still has a 54% approval rating ( though a CNN piece on that even managed to spin that as a negative).

Ok, so people had unrealistic views of Obama striding into Washington and instantly changing everything.

Go to Politifact's running tracker of Obama's promises to see some of the things he's accomplished so far. I'm not happy with everything he's done and I think he should have been taking much more of a lead role in pushing healthcare reform, but in many ways it's far too early to judge his performance.

Being moderate sucks right now. On the Democratic side you've got people that want to spend, spend, spend, force lots of regulation down your throat, and hate people that are different than them. And on the Republican side, you have people that want to spend, spend, spend, force lots of regulation down your throat, and hate people that are different from them.

So I propose everybody re-read Federalist Papers #10, chill out, and stop being idealouges.

We stopped McCain and Palin from getting in to the White House, that's what we did.

Which is why Obama's approval rating has consistently been at or above the 53% share of the vote he got. Yeah, that sounds like massive regret to me.

Lando Lincoln: We stopped McCain and Palin from getting in to the White House, that's what we did.

That's setting the bar really high, there.

Nabb1: That's setting the bar really high, there.

Heh.

Racht: Which is why Obama's approval rating has consistently been at or above the 53% share of the vote he got. Yeah, that sounds like massive regret to me.

THIS
nothing else needs to be said

PANIC.
obama has had 9 months in office and he has done everything immediately!!!

ZOMG
we are still in afghanistan!
did anyone think that he was going to just pull the troops out? really? maybe you need to give up your right to vote.

"I really thought there would be immediate change," she said.

And that's Obama's fault... how?

Nabb1: Lando Lincoln: We stopped McCain and Palin from getting in to the White House, that's what we did.

That's setting the bar really high, there.

Maybe the Republican party should stop nominating losers then.

So there's an idiot in Iowa, and for some reason we still place a disproportionate level of importance on the state.

ne2d: "I really thought there would be immediate change," she said.

Well there's your problem.

A hearty THIS.

In Iowa, Ms. McAreavy fears that the president's health care plan will shortchange her Medicare benefits and mean infrequent mammogram examinations.

Ah, I understand the problem. She's a moron who believes in scare tactics.

Can we, seriously, stop making the fate of the country depend on Iowa and New Hampshire? It makes no sense at all, neither of those states have anything close to a representative population of the country as a whole.

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So there's an idiot in Iowa, and for some reason we still place a disproportionate level of importance on the state.

That's because our primary system continues to be idiotic.

Lando Lincoln: We stopped McCain and Palin from getting in to the White House, that's what we did.

Frying pan or fire? Nice choice.

brainiac-dumdum: Nabb1: Lando Lincoln: We stopped McCain and Palin from getting in to the White House, that's what we did.

That's setting the bar really high, there.

Maybe the Republican party should stop nominating losers then.

I completely agree. I might start voting for them. That said, is beating a couple of sure losers an "accomplishment"? But I guess after John Kerry lost to a sure loser in '04 it could be seen that way.

And she is 76 years old. She should be thankful a death panel hasn't killed her.......yet.

ne2d: "I really thought there would be immediate change," she said.

Well there's your problem.

Dang, you beat me to it.

Nabb1: Lando Lincoln: We stopped McCain and Palin from getting in to the White House, that's what we did.

That's setting the bar really high, there.

We're not the ones who set the bar. The GOP did, by nominating the Old Guy and the Dumb Broad.

/would have voted for McCain in 2000, but he changed a lot in 8 years

Nabb1: But I guess after John Kerry lost to a sure loser in '04 it could be seen that way.

John Kerry was a loser of at least equal proportion to W.

jonasborg: Nabb1: But I guess after John Kerry lost to a sure loser in '04 it could be seen that way.

John Kerry was a loser of at least equal proportion to W.

John Kerry is married to the Ketchup Queen of South Africa though. So, he's got that going for him.

Gamer Grrrl: ne2d: "I really thought there would be immediate change," she said.

Well there's your problem.

Dang, you beat me to it.

Nabb1: Lando Lincoln: We stopped McCain and Palin from getting in to the White House, that's what we did.

That's setting the bar really high, there.

We're not the ones who set the bar. The GOP did, by nominating the Old Guy and the Dumb Broad.

/would have voted for McCain in 2000, but he changed a lot in 8 years

I would have voted for Obama anyway, but McCain never gave me a reason to consider voting otherwise. Whether it was him or the execution of his campaign I can't say exactly.

Gamer Grrrl: /would have voted for McCain in 2000, but he changed a lot in 8 years

I voted for McCain in the 2000 primaries, but voted third party in 2008.

Diogenes: Gamer Grrrl: ne2d: "I really thought there would be immediate change," she said.

Well there's your problem.

Dang, you beat me to it.

Nabb1: Lando Lincoln: We stopped McCain and Palin from getting in to the White House, that's what we did.

That's setting the bar really high, there.

We're not the ones who set the bar. The GOP did, by nominating the Old Guy and the Dumb Broad.

/would have voted for McCain in 2000, but he changed a lot in 8 years

I would have voted for Obama anyway, but McCain never gave me a reason to consider voting otherwise. Whether it was him or the execution of his campaign I can't say exactly.

Caribou Barbie at his side was a deciding factor for many I know. That woman is caustic, and should be handled within a laboratory.

Nabb1: Gamer Grrrl: /would have voted for McCain in 2000, but he changed a lot in 8 years

I voted for McCain in the 2000 primaries, but voted third party in 2008.

hell, even I was rooting for mccain in 2000.

Gamer Grrrl: would have voted for McCain in 2000

Ditto. Even though I didn't agree with him on everything, I thought he would have made a good President in 2000. A President McCain would have paid a lot of attention to a report in the summer of 2000 that al-Quadi was determined to attack. Maybe the attacks would've happened anyway, but he wouldn't have wasted years in Iraq while letting Afghanistan fall apart.

He changed a bit for 2008 but what really got me was his age. Add on 8 years to a POW, cancer survivor whose running mate was a person so completely unprepared to take the reigns of power if something happened to him (his father and grandfather were both dead by 72) and there was no way he was getting my vote.

And speaking of Palin, the GOP is not going to capitalize as much as they like with disappointed Obama voters if they keep scaring independents, moderate Republicans and conservative leaning Democrats away.

FlashHarry: hell, even I was rooting for mccain in 2000.

I think McCain 2000 would have made a fine President. Not so sure about McCain 2008.

Nabb1: FlashHarry: hell, even I was rooting for mccain in 2000.

I think McCain 2000 would have made a fine President. Not so sure about McCain 2008.

I voted McCain 2008, but was less than enamored with him after his "riding into DC to pass a spending bill when he'd campaigned on stopping stupid spending bills". It was pretty much decided by then, anyway.

Nabb1: FlashHarry: hell, even I was rooting for mccain in 2000.

I think McCain 2000 would have made a fine President. Not so sure about McCain 2008.

mccain '08 would have been an unmitigated disaster. and just the thought of having sarah palin that close to the levers of power makes my stomach churn.

Nabb1: accomplishment

someone covered accomplishments w/ a Polifact mention. My favorite so far is the Ledbetter bill, I think.

Nabb1: FlashHarry: hell, even I was rooting for mccain in 2000.

I think McCain 2000 would have made a fine President. Not so sure about McCain 2008.

this.

The man ran a 2008 campaign in 2000 and a 2000 campaign in 2008.

Nabb1: FlashHarry: hell, even I was rooting for mccain in 2000.

I think McCain 2000 would have made a fine President. Not so sure about McCain 2008.

I'm certain McCain 2000 would have been better than either Gore or Bush.

Nabb1: I voted for McCain in the 2000 primaries, but voted third party in 2008.

Did the same as a freshman poli sci major.

FlashHarry: Nabb1: FlashHarry: hell, even I was rooting for mccain in 2000.

I think McCain 2000 would have made a fine President. Not so sure about McCain 2008.

mccain '08 would have been an unmitigated disaster. and just the thought of having sarah palin that close to the levers of power makes my stomach churn.

I hate to say it, but I'm waiting for McCain to croak between now and 2012 so I can point at my conservative relatives (who think Obama is Satan) and say, "See? SEE?!"

Gamer Grrrl: I'm certain McCain 2000 would have been better than either Gore or Bush.

i'm guessing that mccain '00 would've paid a wee bit more attention to richard clarke and sandy berger when they said that al qaeda was our number-one security threat than a certain brush-clearing vacationer.

/ducks

FlashHarry: Nabb1: FlashHarry: hell, even I was rooting for mccain in 2000.

I think McCain 2000 would have made a fine President. Not so sure about McCain 2008.

mccain '08 would have been an unmitigated disaster. and just the thought of having sarah palin that close to the levers of power makes my stomach churn.

One thing I can say about Obama...as long as he is alive, I don't have to live in fear that Joseph Biden will have access to the nuclear codes.

What did you do?

I'll tell you what you did. You sat back for the last couple of decades and watched and smiled as your party was taken over by religious fundamentalists and racists.

You let Falwell, Limbaugh, and their ilk become the mouthpieces for the Republican party. You happily did that because they vocally criticized the people with whom you disagreed.

Now, your party is in shambles, and you have no group that represents your primary interests of fiscal conservancy and limited scope of government.

Go fark yourselves for being so stupid and short-sighted.

I_C_Weener: One thing I can say about Obama...as long as he is alive, I don't have to live in fear that Joseph Biden will have access to the nuclear codes.

you know... bidden does have a permanent foot in his mouth. but he's also one of the most informed foreign policy wonks out there. i personally would have no problem having the nuclear "football."

and the more that i think of it, the thought of "maverick" mccain - a lifelong dice player - with the nuclear button scares the shiat out of me.

Nabb1: I think McCain 2000 would have made a fine President. Not so sure about McCain 2008.

After he basically rolled over and exposed his belly to Bush following Bush's completely disgusting smear campaign in the 2000 primary, he hasn't been worth a piece of bacon in Mecca.

Which is bad news... for Obama.

Gamer Grrrl: FlashHarry: Nabb1: FlashHarry: hell, even I was rooting for mccain in 2000.

I think McCain 2000 would have made a fine President. Not so sure about McCain 2008.

mccain '08 would have been an unmitigated disaster. and just the thought of having sarah palin that close to the levers of power makes my stomach churn.

I hate to say it, but I'm waiting for McCain to croak between now and 2012 so I can point at my conservative relatives (who think Obama is Satan) and say, "See? SEE?!"

Yup. I just can't imagine what would possess a person to vote for McCain in '08 when they know that they're voting for Palin as well. Several of my friends who are normally apathetic about politics suddenly became quite interested and pro-active when it came to the election when she was given the VP nod. She scared the crap out of them. They went out to vote specifically to vote against her. If there was any doubt that McCain was being a complete and total puppet of the GOP in the last election, that doubt was obliterated when he chose such an incompetent running mate.

Perhaps now would be a good time to list the Republican accomplishments of the last 8 years.

Told you so. The media sold you a bill of goods. He is just a politician. Like every other politician.

This is great news...FOR MCCAIN!

That's it, I'm voting for Vinick.

I know right, I mean, where was my unicorn on Jan. 21st?

In all seriousness, yeah, there's some shiat that's getting bogged down in the typical politics. But things have stopped getting worse.

BKITU: That's it, I'm voting for Vinick.

God I wish I could.

Nabb1
I voted for McCain in the 2000 primaries, but voted third party in 2008.

If any Republican could have won in 2008 given Bush's terrible approval numbers and a well run campaign by Obama, it was McCain 2000. McCain 2008 is the guy who showed up though.

Nabb1: FlashHarry: hell, even I was rooting for mccain in 2000.

I think McCain 2000 would have made a fine President. Not so sure about McCain 2008.

I'm pretty certain he changed not one bit in the intervening years. It's why I voted for Bush in the 2000 primaries, and don't regret that one bit.