You didn't figure that out when they cast one of the whitest guys in Hollywood as the lead? Hey, at least they got Kingsly who has played Persian before and can kinda sorta pass in the right light.
eh, it looked epic and cheesy both, much in the same way that Pirates of the Caribbean did.
As for the reviewer, I'm not really sure what his problem is. He's blaming plot points on Bruckheimer that were pulled straight from the video game this movie is based on. He complains about "English accents" when that's one of the most overused devices in film history. Did he complain that Caesar spoke with a British accent in HBO's Rome? And I had no trouble determining "which way is up".
Honestly, I half expected him to end with "The last good movie set in the desert was Casablanca, now get off my lawn!"
This movie looks terrible. That said, The people of Persia, and modern day Iran, actually are white. They're darker skinned, but then again, so are Italians. But the Persians were what we would call 'Caucasian'
NaturalDrunkenPungence:This movie looks terrible. That said, The people of Persia, and modern day Iran, actually are white. They're darker skinned, but then again, so are Italians. But the Persians were what we would call 'Caucasian'
The funny thing is the words "Iran" and "Ireland" are actually from the same root word "Arya" which is where they got Aryan from. It's proto-sanskrit for Noble. It was the same people group that moved out of Northern India and some went to where Persia was and the rest drifted over into Europe and became Celtic and Germanic peoples.
Most Iranians could shave off their beard and look like a European banker.
*Note, despite my use of the word "Aryan" this is not some racist screed but the actual research anthropologists have done. It's not my fault the white-power movement has co-opted the word.
Y'know, usually I'm one of the assholes deriding the lack of subtlety and over-prevailence of action, explosions and one-liners in modern cinema, but that actually looked pretty fun in a "Pirates of the Caribbean" way (the first one, not the crappy sequels).
The fact that I loved the game possibly has something to do with it.
FishyFred:Ben Kingsley is apparently an avid gamer. First BloodRayne, now this?
I vaguely remember him saying in an interview that he did Bloodrayne because he always wanted to play a vampire, but had never been offered a part as one before.
NaturalDrunkenPungence:This movie looks terrible. That said, The people of Persia, and modern day Iran, actually are white. They're darker skinned, but then again, so are Italians. But the Persians were what we would call 'Caucasian'
correct. In fact, Xenophon described ancient Persians as whiter than his own Greek troops. There are also Persians with blue eyes. I found it very hilarious those who claimed casting him was racist. Most of those people wanted someone who had arabic features.
Great, because Hollywood didn't piss off Persia/Iran enough with 300, now we have this? Yes, I know that 300 was based on an excellent graphic novel, just as this new film is based on a popular video game, but those over there seem to miss said important points of interest. At least all the butthurt will be fun, if not the film itself.
timujin:eh, it looked epic and cheesy both, much in the same way that Pirates of the Caribbean did.
As for the reviewer, I'm not really sure what his problem is. He's blaming plot points on Bruckheimer that were pulled straight from the video game this movie is based on. He complains about "English accents" when that's one of the most overused devices in film history. Did he complain that Caesar spoke with a British accent in HBO's Rome? And I had no trouble determining "which way is up".
Honestly, I half expected him to end with "The last good movie set in the desert was Casablanca, now get off my lawn!"
This.
I do not think the author is familiar with the game it is based on. He sounds like the character, who is capable of running on all sides of walls to obtain a dagger which controls time. So... the problem here? It is what it is. A popcorn flick.
yllosubmarine:Great, because Hollywood didn't piss off Persia/Iran enough with 300, now we have this? Yes, I know that 300 was based on an excellent graphic novel, just as this new film is based on a popular video game, but those over there seem to miss said important points of interest. At least all the butthurt will be fun, if not the film itself.
NaturalDrunkenPungence:The people of Persia, and modern day Iran, actually are white. They're darker skinned, but then again, so are Italians. But the Persians were what we would call 'Caucasian'
Iran is named for the ethnicity of the majority group, a group also referred to as Persian. The root that Iran derives from is Aryan. Persians are white people.
Modern day Persians do tend towards a darker skin tone, mostly because they got their asses conquered by Arabs with regularity during the first millennium, common era.
Interestingly, Persians speak Farsi, which is actually an Arabic corruption of Persian. Arabic has no "P" sound, while Persian does. In the mouths of the Arab conquerors, "Parsi" became "Farsi".
Despite using similar alphabets, Farsi is not related to Arabic. It's in the Indo-European family of languages, while Arabic and Hebrew constitute the Semetic branch of languages. However, due to cultural cross pollination, Farsi borrows many words from Arabic. It also borrows heavily from French. In common usage, "Merci" is the appropriate way to say "thank you".
//Currently learning Farsi; my wife is half Persian. //Where's Persepolis when you need him?
NaturalDrunkenPungence:This movie looks terrible. That said, The people of Persia, and modern day Iran, actually are white. They're darker skinned, but then again, so are Italians. But the Persians were what we would call 'Caucasian'
If you dare say that to an actual Persian you'll get your ass kicked. Just saying.
Abracapocalypse:The funny thing is the words "Iran" and "Ireland" are actually from the same root word "Arya" which is where they got Aryan from.
I thought the root word of Ireland was Ire, meaning anger.
vossiewulf
2009-11-03 11:20:02 AM
Sybarite
2009-11-03 11:24:10 AM
skitzo
2009-11-03 11:38:32 AM
mattharvest
2009-11-03 11:46:25 AM
Eesh. This is over-sensitivity, folks.
FishyFred
2009-11-03 11:54:02 AM
timujin
2009-11-03 11:57:11 AM
As for the reviewer, I'm not really sure what his problem is. He's blaming plot points on Bruckheimer that were pulled straight from the video game this movie is based on. He complains about "English accents" when that's one of the most overused devices in film history. Did he complain that Caesar spoke with a British accent in HBO's Rome? And I had no trouble determining "which way is up".
Honestly, I half expected him to end with "The last good movie set in the desert was Casablanca, now get off my lawn!"
Sybarite
2009-11-03 12:06:56 PM
Or maybe it's just the three ex-wives. Gandhi gots to get paid.
MaxxLarge
2009-11-03 12:14:07 PM
Ben Kingsley's father was Indian. He was born "Krishna Bhanji."
Just sayin'.
NaturalDrunkenPungence
2009-11-03 12:33:13 PM
FunkOut
2009-11-03 12:36:28 PM
Ben Kingsley's father was Indian. He was born "Krishna Bhanji."
Just sayin'.
And here I thought his mother just ate too much vindaloo when she was pregnant.
bungle_jr
2009-11-03 12:38:23 PM
Prince of PersiaAladdin reimaginedancient Persia(fictional) Agrabah as a land of spray-tanned white people withEnglishAmerican accentsAbracapocalypse
2009-11-03 12:38:47 PM
The funny thing is the words "Iran" and "Ireland" are actually from the same root word "Arya" which is where they got Aryan from. It's proto-sanskrit for Noble. It was the same people group that moved out of Northern India and some went to where Persia was and the rest drifted over into Europe and became Celtic and Germanic peoples.
Most Iranians could shave off their beard and look like a European banker.
*Note, despite my use of the word "Aryan" this is not some racist screed but the actual research anthropologists have done. It's not my fault the white-power movement has co-opted the word.
Gunther
2009-11-03 12:39:30 PM
The fact that I loved the game possibly has something to do with it.
FishyFred: Ben Kingsley is apparently an avid gamer. First BloodRayne, now this?
I vaguely remember him saying in an interview that he did Bloodrayne because he always wanted to play a vampire, but had never been offered a part as one before.
pd771
2009-11-03 12:39:37 PM
correct. In fact, Xenophon described ancient Persians as whiter than his own Greek troops. There are also Persians with blue eyes. I found it very hilarious those who claimed casting him was racist. Most of those people wanted someone who had arabic features.
yllosubmarine
2009-11-03 12:39:54 PM
Celticweaver
2009-11-03 12:40:08 PM
TimeWaste
2009-11-03 12:42:30 PM
As for the reviewer, I'm not really sure what his problem is. He's blaming plot points on Bruckheimer that were pulled straight from the video game this movie is based on. He complains about "English accents" when that's one of the most overused devices in film history. Did he complain that Caesar spoke with a British accent in HBO's Rome? And I had no trouble determining "which way is up".
Honestly, I half expected him to end with "The last good movie set in the desert was Casablanca, now get off my lawn!"
This.
I do not think the author is familiar with the game it is based on. He sounds like the character, who is capable of running on all sides of walls to obtain a dagger which controls time. So... the problem here? It is what it is. A popcorn flick.
I'll go see it.
CrankMyBlueSax
2009-11-03 12:42:45 PM
nicksteel
2009-11-03 12:42:47 PM
Everything we do pisses off the arab world.
GypsyJoker
2009-11-03 12:42:50 PM
TFA says this like it's a bad thing.
militant guacamole
2009-11-03 12:43:05 PM
Well...It was.
/Get off my lawn...for old times sake.
t3knomanser
2009-11-03 12:43:20 PM
Iran is named for the ethnicity of the majority group, a group also referred to as Persian. The root that Iran derives from is Aryan. Persians are white people.
Modern day Persians do tend towards a darker skin tone, mostly because they got their asses conquered by Arabs with regularity during the first millennium, common era.
Interestingly, Persians speak Farsi, which is actually an Arabic corruption of Persian. Arabic has no "P" sound, while Persian does. In the mouths of the Arab conquerors, "Parsi" became "Farsi".
Despite using similar alphabets, Farsi is not related to Arabic. It's in the Indo-European family of languages, while Arabic and Hebrew constitute the Semetic branch of languages. However, due to cultural cross pollination, Farsi borrows many words from Arabic. It also borrows heavily from French. In common usage, "Merci" is the appropriate way to say "thank you".
//Currently learning Farsi; my wife is half Persian.
//Where's Persepolis when you need him?
mistrmind
2009-11-03 12:44:06 PM
EsteeFlwrPot
2009-11-03 12:44:58 PM
If you dare say that to an actual Persian you'll get your ass kicked. Just saying.
Abracapocalypse: The funny thing is the words "Iran" and "Ireland" are actually from the same root word "Arya" which is where they got Aryan from.
I thought the root word of Ireland was Ire, meaning anger.
IdBeCrazyIf
2009-11-03 12:46:55 PM
Never mention that abomination of a film ever again.
I'm pretty there is a circle of hell dedicated to watching that movie.