Wow, awesome statement there.

I don't see this happening quite how he thinks. Cloud computing is a great way to do backups or store documents (when appropriate) but it will not take over all local IT functions. As for running servers and services, thats already been happening with outsourced IT. Plenty of companies hand their email over to third parties, for instance... But we see the results of this in my niche (network security) every day -- typical scenario: company gets itself broken into digitally, company has no local IT, company is now screwed and scrambling around to hire a consultant. If all the stuffs in the cloud, where are the desktops leaking data? Still at the company site. As long as the company is here, some / many local IT will also be. It can't be helped.

If I'm ever in a meeting where Unisys comes up I'll be sure and remember this guy,

// 16 year technology company veteran. Long memory for asshats.

I'm sure those two folks from India will "sort of" not help when Lurleen from HR accidentally turns her power strip off and then complains that her computer won't boot.

As a Unisys employee, I'm getting a kick out of -- layoffs? What?

Personally, I will never ever out-source my work no matter how big the profit is, because it's damn well not worth it - quality over quantity.

I'd prefer being able to terrorize my subordinates in person. It makes me look more threatening and awesome.

/just kidding about the latter. The former, am not.
// I hope Unisys gets teh haxx0r boot.

Cloud computing isn't going away, but its not going to revolutionize the industry. Hell a lot of businesses are still migrating (slowly) from main-frames (green screens) to x86 servers (web apps).

Meh. Yet another outsourcing boogeyman.

That's the kind of thing you can pull once or twice, until it just becomes common knowledge among management that you need at least *SOME* IT guys on site or you will get royally screwed when (not if) something goes wrong.

Speaking as a man who is on Fark at the moment because the off-site server that hosts the program I'm using has an annoying tendency to crash for five minutes at a time, all I have to say is "Screw cloud computing."

At least when the program is hosted locally there is some work I can do when the internet goes all haywire and starts dropping in and out.

Cload computing, the mainframe of the 21st century.

So I see that we found today's example on how to go full retard.

Sheesh, I haven't even trudged over to the Politics tab yet.

I don't see this happening quite how he thinks. Cloud computing is a great way to do backups or store documents (when appropriate) but it will not take over all local IT functions. As for running servers and services, thats already been happening with outsourced IT. Plenty of companies hand their email over to third parties, for instance... But we see the results of this in my niche (network security) every day -- typical scenario: company gets itself broken into digitally, company has no local IT, company is now screwed and scrambling around to hire a consultant. If all the stuffs in the cloud, where are the desktops leaking data? Still at the company site. As long as the company is here, some / many local IT will also be. It can't be helped.

I have to agree heavily with this. Handing off the keys to "two guys over in India" may be this guy's wet dream, but from a practical standpoint it will never work out this way. This just felt like one big scare tactic/sales pitch by a retarded cock.

/Going through outsourced code at this moment, getting kick, etc.

I used to work at Unisys. One thing I can tell you is that Unisys knows nothing about the direction of technology. That company has been dying for a long time. They have been doing layoffs pretty consistently since 2000.

I work for a company that just pulled back IT after a disastrous outsourcing effort so I'm getting a kick.

/drtfa
//cloud computing is just this years term for outsourcing functions and it has to be managed as such

Hybride: I hope Unisys gets teh haxx0r boot.

Yes, because I and all my co-workers deserve to be out of a job because the idiot technology guy with the company opens his mouth and talks about what every other technology company's been doing for the past 15 years.

Clouds have been around for a long time, someone just found a nifty way to market it. Amazon and Rackspace (and others) are doing good things with hosting server images, but it's not ever going to replace most companies data centers. It may replace the server closet at a small company, but that's it.

The really annoying thing is companies like HP and IBM are trying to sell 'personal clouds' to companies. If you have to support the hardware, network, power, cooling, etc., is it still a cloud? No, it's a damn data center.

"Cloud computing", as with many other "innovations", will have it's place but never live up to all the hype.

My buddy works for Rogers here in Canada.

They have been implementing this, and the manager who pitched it was oblivious to the real costs. They have pretty much completed the changeover and it's pretty much certain it's more expensive in the long run.

...also another buddy of mine is in IT as well and he got laid off last Thursday :(

My dad works for Unisys. He is so close to the majic retirement number (64 I think) He says that he will chain himself to the desk till then.

// LOL just kidding He is ready to accept the inevitable(sic)

B-b-but, computers are the future! We've been telling every kid since WarGames came out to study Comp Sci! The job market there's supposed to grow exponentially until everybody's a computer engineer!

Slu: I used to work at Unisys. One thing I can tell you is that Unisys knows nothing about the direction of technology. That company has been dying for a long time. They have been doing layoffs pretty consistently since 2000.

Smartest and stupidest thing they ever did IMO was spin off their support to its own company in Unisys Technical Services. They figured they could sell off the support sector for capital for the cloud computing. UTS is doing pretty damn well.

In other news, clueless executives will continue to bounce from company to company, scoring ever-larger bonus and severance packages.

I've seen it happen too many times -- once you reach a certain level, it doesn't matter if you're ineffectual or downright malevolent, whether your company thrives on your watch or crashes and burns. There'll always be another company willing to offer you a seven- or eight- or nine-figure package.

When we have any technology discussion at our consultancy first thing we ask is: "What is Unisys headed in the technology?"

Do they still make the Univac?

Hmm....I wonder if this will make it even more difficult for RIAA to figure out how to stop file trading....

jfarkinB: once you reach a certain level, it doesn't matter if you're ineffectual or downright malevolent...

Oh, I could tell you some things about the policies that guy's put into place, but you know...layoffs and rent...

Someone should kick his farking traitor ass to india. that middle management prick. I hope someone puts his ass against the wall when people get really sick of this shiat and revolt.

So, a company that does outsourcing says outsourcing is the future? Wow. Call me when someone from Ford says the horse and buggy is the future. or that they've got a flying car.

Abstruse: Hybride: I hope Unisys gets teh haxx0r boot.

Yes, because I and all my co-workers deserve to be out of a job because the idiot technology guy with the company opens his mouth and talks about what every other technology company's been doing for the past 15 years.
Let me rephrase then: I hope the exec gets the haxx0r boot, not the guys who work there.

Better?

fury211: Someone should kick his farking traitor ass to india. that middle management prick. I hope someone puts his ass against the wall when people get really sick of this shiat and revolt.
I know this is at least a partial troll, but dammit, I agree with you. Kudos.