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(Some Coco-Nut) Interesting Thermonuclear fusion and coconuts - strange bedfellows   (hplusmagazine.com) divider line 35
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Makh [TotalFark] 2009-11-03 03:09:49 AM  
Not for the professor. He knows all about this.

 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark] 2009-11-03 03:50:33 AM  
and McGuyver

 
Cheese eating surrender monkey [TotalFark] 2009-11-03 04:07:47 AM  
Insert Monty python reference here.

 
kayanlau 2009-11-03 04:11:15 AM  
... I believe the pioneer of coconut-technology belongs to Roy Hinkley of Gillian's Island.

\looked it up :P

 
ProdigalSigh 2009-11-03 04:11:50 AM  
FTA: Tokamak (from the Russian for "toroidal chamber with magnetic coils")

They have a word for that?

 
gregoropolis 2009-11-03 04:14:34 AM  
very interesting. my only problem with it is... i don't understand it and if i were to understand then it would most likely be something that really wouldn't work. it passes my test that its science.

anywho, if i may jack the thread slightly with a science question that is more important to me at the moment. I just bought one of those 2.5 gallon disposable water dispensers, zeppheyerlhills brand. i live in florida which i think might have something to do with the fact it taste so strongley of plastic, ie sun,heat,ect...

so my question is is it ok to drink water that taste like plastic and if you can answer how that fusion works instead of that question about the water i would be equally content i suppose.

 
Cheese eating surrender monkey [TotalFark] 2009-11-03 04:15:33 AM  
ProdigalSigh: FTA: Tokamak (from the Russian for "toroidal chamber with magnetic coils")

They have a word for that?


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Speaking was actually inwented by a little old lady near Novosibirsk.

 
InsaneJelloTroll 2009-11-03 04:17:21 AM  
gregoropolis: very interesting. my only problem with it is... i don't understand it and if i were to understand then it would most likely be something that really wouldn't work. it passes my test that its science.

anywho, if i may jack the thread slightly with a science question that is more important to me at the moment. I just bought one of those 2.5 gallon disposable water dispensers, zeppheyerlhills brand. i live in florida which i think might have something to do with the fact it taste so strongley of plastic, ie sun,heat,ect...

so my question is is it ok to drink water that taste like plastic and if you can answer how that fusion works instead of that question about the water i would be equally content i suppose.


Man up, Nancy.

 
DemonEater 2009-11-03 04:46:03 AM  
Cool, but a repeat from several weeks ago.

 
Mr Logo 2009-11-03 05:18:57 AM  
DemonEater: Cool, but a repeat from several weeks ago.

The story below is a repeat from several hours ago....

 
Mister Peejay 2009-11-03 07:08:36 AM  
I "like" how they "put" random "words" into "quotation marks".

/stopped at "adsorbs"
//rest of article: "it uses magmetic thingys to keep the kaboom in"

 
dryknife 2009-11-03 08:47:13 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

 
syrynxx [TotalFark] 2009-11-03 09:02:47 AM  
This was my area of graduate study. My advisor did his Ph.D. on the Princeton tokamak; I did my Master's research on a plasma etching chamber mapping out Argon plasma potentials.

Skeptics point out that ever since the idea of fusion power was first touted in the 1950s, fusion's promise of clean power has receded endlessly into the future.

Ding ding ding! In grad school, I realized that when uncontrolled nuclear fusion was achieved in the 30s, they estimated commercially-viable fusion would be 30 years away. In the 60s, it was only 30 years away. In the 70s, the carrot was still on that 30-year stick, ditto for the 80s.

I did not want to spend 30 years of my career chasing a carrot that would be 30 years away when I retired, and left grad school.

After 20 years searching for the ideal adsorber -- including sintered metals and porous minerals called zeolites -- Day's team decided on charcoal.

Apparently I would have spent the past 20 years publishing papers like "He3 Plasma Impingment And Retention Testing Upon A Piece Of Gum I Found Under The Table At Bennigan's". fark that.

 
jfarkinB [TotalFark] 2009-11-03 09:10:23 AM  
gregoropolis: I just bought one of those 2.5 gallon disposable water dispensers, zeppheyerlhills brand. i live in florida which i think might have something to do with the fact it taste so strongley of plastic, ie sun,heat,ect...

so my question is is it ok to drink water that taste like plastic and if you can answer how that fusion works instead of that question about the water i would be equally content i suppose.


What's it made of? Does it have a recycling symbol?

Baking soda in water is good for getting rid of off flavors, but I'm not as relaxed about stuff leaching out of plastic bottles as I used to be.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-11-03 09:37:51 AM  
Makh: Not for the professor. He knows all about this.



That's what the last headline for this repeat story said, anyway...

 
Arkanaut 2009-11-03 09:48:07 AM  
ProdigalSigh: FTA: Tokamak (from the Russian for "toroidal chamber with magnetic coils")

They have a word for that?


It's an acronym: toroidal'naya kamera c magnitnymi katushkami

I'm skeptical about this whole project though. The Tokamak has been around for decades at this point, and I don't think it's ever netted positive in energy production. That is, it takes more energy to run it than it can produce. Are they really saying that coconut charcoal can make that big of a difference?

 
b2theory [TotalFark] 2009-11-03 09:56:49 AM  
syrynxx: This was my area of graduate study. My advisor did his Ph.D. on the Princeton tokamak; I did my Master's research on a plasma etching chamber mapping out Argon plasma potentials.

Skeptics point out that ever since the idea of fusion power was first touted in the 1950s, fusion's promise of clean power has receded endlessly into the future.

Ding ding ding! In grad school, I realized that when uncontrolled nuclear fusion was achieved in the 30s, they estimated commercially-viable fusion would be 30 years away. In the 60s, it was only 30 years away. In the 70s, the carrot was still on that 30-year stick, ditto for the 80s.

I did not want to spend 30 years of my career chasing a carrot that would be 30 years away when I retired, and left grad school.

After 20 years searching for the ideal adsorber -- including sintered metals and porous minerals called zeolites -- Day's team decided on charcoal.

Apparently I would have spent the past 20 years publishing papers like "He3 Plasma Impingment And Retention Testing Upon A Piece Of Gum I Found Under The Table At Bennigan's". fark that.


Really? Please enlighten me.

The reality is this...

Nuclear Engineers: Fusion Power is 40 years away (if we put the kind of money and effort that we put into developing and commercializing fission power) Can I has some funding?
Government: Can this be used for weapons?
Nuclear Engineers: Well no but...
Government: Here is five dollars and some government cheese

 
you have pee hands 2009-11-03 10:12:16 AM  
syrynxx: Really? Please enlighten me.

The reality is this...

Nuclear Engineers: Fusion Power is 40 years away (if we put the kind of money and effort that we put into developing and commercializing fission power) Can I has some funding?
Government: Can this be used for weapons?
Nuclear Engineers: Well no but...
Government: Here is five dollars and some government cheese


That comment struck me as funny, too, since obviously no one had even uncontrolled fission working until close to the end of WWII. Apparently the first successful fusion test was done in 1952.

 
JavanDane 2009-11-03 10:31:33 AM  
FTFA: "In what sounds like it could be the beginnings of a Star Trek-like Federation, the United States has joined the European Union, Japan, the Russian Federation, China, Korea, and India..."

Plus one subby strange bedfellows (new window)

Slow today, more so than normal, Pyrosis awoke me at midnight and stayed for hours.

 
imfallen_angel 2009-11-03 10:39:15 AM  
The question is, how did they get the coconuts?

 
Fano 2009-11-03 10:49:22 AM  
ProdigalSigh: FTA: Tokamak (from the Russian for "toroidal chamber with magnetic coils")

They have a word for that?


From what I remember growing up, the godless commies actually thought of everything in ultrarational, scientific terms. So yes, they have a word for that.

Citation: Drago, Rocky IV

 
calculator13 2009-11-03 11:02:05 AM  
I just made fusion in my pants.

 
PirateKing 2009-11-03 11:10:42 AM  
imfallen_angel: The question is, how did they get the coconuts?

They found them.

 
b2theory [TotalFark] 2009-11-03 11:28:55 AM  
you have pee hands: syrynxx: Really? Please enlighten me.

The reality is this...

Nuclear Engineers: Fusion Power is 40 years away (if we put the kind of money and effort that we put into developing and commercializing fission power) Can I has some funding?
Government: Can this be used for weapons?
Nuclear Engineers: Well no but...
Government: Here is five dollars and some government cheese

That comment struck me as funny, too, since obviously no one had even uncontrolled fission working until close to the end of WWII. Apparently the first successful fusion test was done in 1952.


You got the date correct. The Mike Shot was the first major thermonuclear test.

He may have been referring to the Farnsworth Device. It is asinine to imagine that was anything more than fleeting attempt at Fusion energy. Nearly everything in the US related to Fusion has been weapons related. I always get a chuckle when they talk about the NIF as an "energy" project. Its only real purpose is for stockpile stewardship.

Commercial fusion energy will happen. When it happens is simply a matter of how much money we are willing to spend. Given the $5 Billion we spend on ethanol subsidies, we could afford to do much better than we are.

 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark] 2009-11-03 12:29:40 PM  
PirateKing: imfallen_angel: The question is, how did they get the coconuts?

They found them.


But coconuts are tropical.

 
Toquinha 2009-11-03 12:42:45 PM  
PC LOAD LETTER: PirateKing: imfallen_angel: The question is, how did they get the coconuts?

They found them.

But coconuts are tropical.


It could've been carried by an African swallow...

 
TypoFlyspray 2009-11-03 02:31:13 PM  
Is only way to make Piña Collider.

/ Will have large hadron in the morning.

 
imfallen_angel 2009-11-03 03:03:35 PM  
Toquinha: PC LOAD LETTER: PirateKing: imfallen_angel: The question is, how did they get the coconuts?

They found them.

But coconuts are tropical.

It could've been carried by an African swallow...


Oh, yeah, an African swallow maybe, but not a European swallow.
That's my point.

 
texlex 2009-11-03 05:00:37 PM  
Arkanaut: ProdigalSigh: FTA: Tokamak (from the Russian for "toroidal chamber with magnetic coils")

They have a word for that?

It's an acronym: toroidal'naya kamera c magnitnymi katushkami

I'm skeptical about this whole project though. The Tokamak has been around for decades at this point, and I don't think it's ever netted positive in energy production. That is, it takes more energy to run it than it can produce. Are they really saying that coconut charcoal can make that big of a difference?


Russian can do short words for difficult concepts, yet the word "sights" takes over 20 letters. (Достопримечательности)

 
Merltech 2009-11-03 05:11:12 PM  
Okay, the only fusion reactor that works is the size of a star. So, whats the minimal sized star that can be formed?

 
syrynxx [TotalFark] 2009-11-03 05:59:40 PM  
b2theory: syrynxx:nuclear fusion was achieved in the 30s,

Really? Please enlighten me.

I had "30" on the brain. I meant the first uncontrolled nuclear fusion in the 50s, the H-bomb.

Dammit! There goes my grant.

 
Gravitholus 2009-11-03 06:27:55 PM  
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You can't eat the coconuts at Bikini Atoll. They are contaminated with Cesium.

 
Bomb Mecca 2009-11-03 06:31:38 PM  
Merltech: Okay, the only fusion reactor that works is the size of a star. So, whats the minimal sized star that can be formed?

How is starry formed? How do star get pragnent?

/so sorry

 
Merltech 2009-11-03 07:39:46 PM  
Bomb Mecca: Merltech: Okay, the only fusion reactor that works is the size of a star. So, whats the minimal sized star that can be formed?

How is starry formed? How do star get pragnent?

/so sorry


I don't dare ask how black holes are formed...

 
Alien Robot 2009-11-04 03:41:33 AM  
Along with coconut shells being used in a nuclear fusion reactor, it's also interesting that one of the primary components in a thermonuclear fusion bomb is ordinary styrofoam. Such simple stuff ...

 
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