Science is not completely outside of the realm of human involvement. Human involvement means that human considerations are part of the process. Not shocked at all to see a large financial windfall for the person who has pioneered the whole movement.
"Former Vice President Al Gore thought he had spotted a winner last year when a small California firm sought financing for an energy-saving technology from the venture capital firm where Mr. Gore is a partner."
"Mr. Gore and his partners decided to back the company, and in gratitude Silver Spring retained him and John Doerr, another Kleiner Perkins partner, as unpaid corporate advisers.
The deal appeared to pay off in a big way last week, when the Energy Department announced $3.4 billion in smart grid grants. Of the total, more than $560 million went to utilities with which Silver Spring has contracts. Kleiner Perkins and its partners, including Mr. Gore, could recoup their investment many times over in coming years."
I'm sure he had NO way of knowing that the Energy Department was going to offer such grants.
So if one puts ones money where ones farking mouth is its bad.. If one doesnt its also bad? Basically its bad because of?
As for "I'm sure he had NO way of knowing that the Energy Department was going to offer such grants." EVERYONE knows that governments all over the world are offering such grants to businesses in that space. Investing there has a good chance of yielding that kind of returns IF you are smart enough to pick a company that has good ideas and isnt all hot air. Not being retarded is not a conspiracy.
gaspode:So if one puts ones money where ones farking mouth is its bad.. If one doesnt its also bad? Basically its bad because of?
As for "I'm sure he had NO way of knowing that the Energy Department was going to offer such grants." EVERYONE knows that governments all over the world are offering such grants to businesses in that space. Investing there has a good chance of yielding that kind of returns IF you are smart enough to pick a company that has good ideas and isnt all hot air. Not being retarded is not a conspiracy.
Seconded. I've actually made a lot of (on paper) money over this last year because I've been slowly investing in companies that manage green technology ventures, because seriously - unless someone figures out how to make petroleum from from ass-fat in the next decade, there is no safer long term bet than alt-energy.
Isn't it funny how when someone makes a killing on the military industrial complex or big oil, the right yells, "Hell Yes" but when someone makes money on new technologies, they scream "He's a fraud!".
"And, Congresswoman," he added, "if you believe that the reason I have been working on this issue for 30 years is because of greed, you don't know me."
No, because then you'd be a Republican. You are however Mr. Gore a liberal turd and I wish you would just go away.
I'm willing to believe, but give me a solid source. And, if there was actual malfeasance, explain how he wasn't bent over a table by an army of Republican lawyers. Seeing as how the GOP owned congress back in the Clinton days to the extent they hired on Ken Starr to waste tons of money crucifying Clinton for the same behavior that Gingrich was engaged in, I think they had the power.
All of you fools fail to see the real motivation behind this "green movement" hoopla Mr. Gore has taken on. Its so unreal because it is right in front of your face. He is hell bent on taking over the world after having metaphorical poop flung into his face via losing the 2000 election. The man will not stop until he controls you via the intarwebs he created. He will be putting "lock boxes" on women's vaginas so that man can no longer procreate and the human race will cease to be.
He's an entrepreneur, a hero of the capitalistic model, and yet the conservatives can't stand the fact that he's made a fortune in exactly what they claim to stand in favor of: free market enterprise. It shows what a bunch of ignorant, partisan jagoffs these people really are. Enjoy your minority status, douchebags.
Bigdogdaddy:Isn't it funny how when someone makes a killing on the military industrial complex or big oil, the right yells, "Hell Yes" but when someone makes money on new technologies, they scream "He's a fraud!".
"And, Congresswoman," he added, "if you believe that the reason I have been working on this issue for 30 years is because of greed, you don't know me."
No, because then you'd be a Republican. You are however Mr. Gore a liberal turd and I wish you would just go away.
Only because most of these companies would fail tomorrow without government subsidies. No one biatches about Mr. Dell, or Gates, or Exxon, because they make something that is useful in and of itself. Something we have all sought out on our own to buy. The only way these wind farms and such are economically feasible is if you tax everyone and give the money to the manufacturer. I'd rather have non polluting and much cheaper nuclear energy, but you assholes won't let me.
While were talking, maybe you can explain something to me. For some reasons your unhappy when someone makes a ton of money off their own investment capital and an idea. But when someone else makes their money off an idea and investment capital raised by taxing me and everyone else and forcing us to buy their electricity (and charging us higher rate than we would pay for nuclear to boot) your just thrilled about it. Why the F*ck is that shiathead? What the hell is wrong with you?
GoSurfing:All of you fools fail to see the real motivation behind this "green movement" hoopla Mr. Gore has taken on. Its so unreal because it is right in front of your face. He is hell bent on taking over the world after having metaphorical poop flung into his face via losing the 2000 election. The man will not stop until he controls you via the intarwebs he created. He will be putting "lock boxes" on women's vaginas so that man can no longer procreate and the human race will cease to be.
Just thought you guys should know.
I'm buying shares in an aluminum foil company. I predict huge growth in that industry.
me texan
2009-11-02 10:27:45 PM
deadapostle
2009-11-02 10:29:34 PM
I have no choice, for I, the proletariat, am crushed beneath it's massive weight.
thomps
2009-11-02 10:51:26 PM
Ender's
2009-11-02 11:44:52 PM
slayer199
2009-11-03 12:07:51 AM
"Mr. Gore and his partners decided to back the company, and in gratitude Silver Spring retained him and John Doerr, another Kleiner Perkins partner, as unpaid corporate advisers.
The deal appeared to pay off in a big way last week, when the Energy Department announced $3.4 billion in smart grid grants. Of the total, more than $560 million went to utilities with which Silver Spring has contracts. Kleiner Perkins and its partners, including Mr. Gore, could recoup their investment many times over in coming years."
I'm sure he had NO way of knowing that the Energy Department was going to offer such grants.
Fano
2009-11-03 01:26:52 AM
Bootstraps? Inheriting shares in Occidental petroleum don't = bootstraps.
MemeSlave
2009-11-03 01:29:19 AM
drewkumo
2009-11-03 01:37:58 AM
gaspode
2009-11-03 01:38:00 AM
As for "I'm sure he had NO way of knowing that the Energy Department was going to offer such grants." EVERYONE knows that governments all over the world are offering such grants to businesses in that space. Investing there has a good chance of yielding that kind of returns IF you are smart enough to pick a company that has good ideas and isnt all hot air. Not being retarded is not a conspiracy.
Robo Beat
2009-11-03 01:45:00 AM
drjekel_mrhyde
2009-11-03 01:46:55 AM
Even more here
Link (new window)
Githerax
2009-11-03 01:48:18 AM
TwistedFark
2009-11-03 01:48:19 AM
As for "I'm sure he had NO way of knowing that the Energy Department was going to offer such grants." EVERYONE knows that governments all over the world are offering such grants to businesses in that space. Investing there has a good chance of yielding that kind of returns IF you are smart enough to pick a company that has good ideas and isnt all hot air. Not being retarded is not a conspiracy.
Seconded. I've actually made a lot of (on paper) money over this last year because I've been slowly investing in companies that manage green technology ventures, because seriously - unless someone figures out how to make petroleum from from ass-fat in the next decade, there is no safer long term bet than alt-energy.
Abelard
2009-11-03 01:50:00 AM
Bigdogdaddy
2009-11-03 01:51:10 AM
"And, Congresswoman," he added, "if you believe that the reason I have been working on this issue for 30 years is because of greed, you don't know me."
No, because then you'd be a Republican. You are however Mr. Gore a liberal turd and I wish you would just go away.
xaveth
2009-11-03 01:53:36 AM
No, no... he "created" the Internets... BIG DIFFERENCE... HUGE... you see.
ferfer72
2009-11-03 01:55:55 AM
goatleggedfellow
2009-11-03 01:56:07 AM
Okay...hmmm...Newsmax, Free Republic, Pajamas Media...
I'm willing to believe, but give me a solid source. And, if there was actual malfeasance, explain how he wasn't bent over a table by an army of Republican lawyers. Seeing as how the GOP owned congress back in the Clinton days to the extent they hired on Ken Starr to waste tons of money crucifying Clinton for the same behavior that Gingrich was engaged in, I think they had the power.
Barakku
2009-11-03 02:01:13 AM
It wouldn't fit through the tubes.
GoSurfing
2009-11-03 02:03:09 AM
Just thought you guys should know.
MizzouGuy
2009-11-03 02:03:48 AM
Invent solution.
Profit.
icanhazstapler
2009-11-03 02:05:27 AM
relcec
2009-11-03 02:05:29 AM
"And, Congresswoman," he added, "if you believe that the reason I have been working on this issue for 30 years is because of greed, you don't know me."
No, because then you'd be a Republican. You are however Mr. Gore a liberal turd and I wish you would just go away.
Only because most of these companies would fail tomorrow without government subsidies. No one biatches about Mr. Dell, or Gates, or Exxon, because they make something that is useful in and of itself. Something we have all sought out on our own to buy. The only way these wind farms and such are economically feasible is if you tax everyone and give the money to the manufacturer. I'd rather have non polluting and much cheaper nuclear energy, but you assholes won't let me.
While were talking, maybe you can explain something to me. For some reasons your unhappy when someone makes a ton of money off their own investment capital and an idea. But when someone else makes their money off an idea and investment capital raised by taxing me and everyone else and forcing us to buy their electricity (and charging us higher rate than we would pay for nuclear to boot) your just thrilled about it. Why the F*ck is that shiathead? What the hell is wrong with you?
OgreMagi
2009-11-03 02:06:41 AM
Just thought you guys should know.
I'm buying shares in an aluminum foil company. I predict huge growth in that industry.
Gr8fulDude
2009-11-03 02:07:16 AM