Too bad this is the same youtube vid that's been posted here many times. If anybody is interested the Cd 'Kick Out The Jams' is great. Remember this was the 'good' Grande Ballroom house band, who the Stooges opened for. How times have changed.

The fact that these guys were doing this in the late 1960s was, is, and remains mind-blowing. The version on the first record is ferocious as all farking get out. Just explosive and raw. "Ramblin' Rose" especially blows me the hell away.

It's not entirely uncommon for local punk bands to play this live. Or at least they did back when I used to go to craploads of shows. Depending on the band, this is one of the ones where I'd jump up on stage and start singing along. I'm not an amazing singer, but I can pull off the "Kick out the Jaaaaaaaaaams!" part pretty good.

Henry Rollins & Bad Brains

Pure awesome.

Phil Lynott??

Such an important band that so few people remember. If you can ever get a hand on a copy of their documentary A True Testimonial, I highly recommend it. You'll get chills watching it.

Some of the old live clips in the film actually comes from FBI surveillance footage. This band was considered so dangerous that Nixon was actually briefed on their political activities.

palexc: Henry Rollins & Bad Brains

Pure awesome.

close. Have you heard the MC5 version on the CD? If not, I think you'll like it.

jvcturntable: Some of the old live clips in the film actually comes from FBI surveillance footage. This band was considered so dangerous that Nixon was actually briefed on their political activities.



ah yes, the politically incontinent White Panthers. If they ever sobered up, they might have been scary.

Here is what I was listening to as I read that line ahhh. (new window)

Great stuff!

A year earlier:

Link

MC5 was not that great.

aiiee: Too bad this is the same youtube vid that's been posted here many times. If anybody is interested the Cd 'Kick Out The Jams' is great. Remember this was the 'good' Grande Ballroom house band, who the Stooges opened for. How times have changed.

Stooges were better, and continued to be better still.

MC5 had like three good songs:

Kick out the Jams
Ramblin' Rose(kinda)
Human Being Lawn Mower(whatever, the one that goes chopchopchopchop)

Really, they kinda suck.

They got some historical/political relevance, but a good band they are not.

aiiee: Too bad this is the same youtube vid that's been posted here many times. If anybody is interested the Cd 'Kick Out The Jams' is great. Remember this was the 'good' Grande Ballroom house band, who the Stooges opened for. How times have changed.

I wasted many a good stupor in the Grande Ballroom. I saw the MC5 plenty of times, only wish I could remember.

/regrets not being there the night they recorded their live album.

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: MC5 was not that great.

aiiee: Too bad this is the same youtube vid that's been posted here many times. If anybody is interested the Cd 'Kick Out The Jams' is great. Remember this was the 'good' Grande Ballroom house band, who the Stooges opened for. How times have changed.

Stooges were better, and continued to be better still.

MC5 had like three good songs:
Kick out the Jams
Ramblin' Rose(kinda)
Human Being Lawn Mower(whatever, the one that goes chopchopchopchop)

Really, they kinda suck.

They got some historical/political relevance, but a good band they are not.

that's just like your opinion man
/the point is that they were earlier than The Stooges

softshoes: aiiee: Too bad this is the same youtube vid that's been posted here many times. If anybody is interested the Cd 'Kick Out The Jams' is great. Remember this was the 'good' Grande Ballroom house band, who the Stooges opened for. How times have changed.

I wasted many a good stupor in the Grande Ballroom. I saw the MC5 plenty of times, only wish I could remember.

/regrets not being there the night they recorded their live album.

We probably crossed paths then. Not that I would remember either :)
I do remember Cream, Led Zeppelin, Spirit, and others, among many amazing nights spent at the Grande. Thanks Uncle Russ.

NYRBill: that's just like your opinion man
/the point is that they were earlier than The Stooges

Weren't they kind of simultaneous? Not sure. But I do know it was The Psychedelic Stooges not The Stooges, and little Mr. Osterberg got straight A's in high school :)

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: MC5 was not that great.

aiiee: Too bad this is the same youtube vid that's been posted here many times. If anybody is interested the Cd 'Kick Out The Jams' is great. Remember this was the 'good' Grande Ballroom house band, who the Stooges opened for. How times have changed.

Stooges were better, and continued to be better still.

MC5 had like three good songs:

Kick out the Jams
Ramblin' Rose(kinda)
Human Being Lawn Mower(whatever, the one that goes chopchopchopchop)

Really, they kinda suck.

They got some historical/political relevance, but a good band they are not.

As I remember, in the early days, the Stooges were kind of a joke band, known as much for Iggy's behavior as their music. Obviously this changed over time. 1969? I wanna Be Your Dog? I mean really.
That said "Fun House" is one of my favorite all time albums.

oh, and Subtard: The Clash and Pistols existed because of The Ramones, who existed because of The Stooges, who likely existed because of MC5
/others say they were influenced the The Who and The Kinks

aiiee: Weren't they kind of simultaneous? Not sure. But I do know it was The Psychedelic Stooges not The Stooges, and little Mr. Osterberg got straight A's in high school :)

IIRC MC5 put out an album in '65, Stooges didn't until '69

The announcer girl at the end of the clip reminds me of Ellen Feiss from the Macintosh commercials.

/It was a really awesome paper

NYRBill: oh, and Subtard: The Clash and Pistols existed because of The Ramones

I worship the Ramones, but this is really not true.

Glenechocreek: A year earlier: (to Can link)

And The Velvets before that and the Kinks before them and the Seeds before them and the Sonics before them the Kingsmen before them... there's no big bang for punk rock, it has kind of always been with us.

NYRBill: IIRC MC5 put out an album in '65, Stooges didn't until '69

I wasn't aware the MC5 released an album in 1965, can you cite? My understanding was Danny Fields signed both the MC5 and The Stooges to Elektra on the same day at the approval of Jac Holzman (who had not heard either band). The MC5 were the band considered important and the Stooges were signed as "the baby band". The MC5's advance was 5X the Stooges'. A watershed day in rock history for sure.

The Dynamite Monkey: NYRBill: oh, and Subtard: The Clash and Pistols existed because of The Ramones
I worship the Ramones, but this is really not true.

then why does Joe Strummer say it in an interview in "End of the Century"?

The Dynamite Monkey: I wasn't aware the MC5 released an album in 1965, can you cite? My understanding was Danny Fields signed both the MC5 and The Stooges to Elektra on the same day at the approval of Jac Holzman (who had not heard either band). The MC5 were the band considered important and the Stooges were signed as "the baby band". The MC5's advance was 5X the Stooges'. A watershed day in rock history for sure.

according to Wiki their debut single was '68
/oops
//I didn't know about them until about 10 years ago though so I'm far from an expert

NYRBill: then why does Joe Strummer say it in an interview in "End of the Century"?

Because he was a great guy and he loved them. And that is not exactly what he said anyway.

But both the Clash and the Pistols were rehearsing and gigging prior to the Ramones London debut on 7/4/76.

The idea that the pistols and ramones heard the ramones and then picked up guitar is a fallacy.

The pistols in particular owed a lot more to the dolls, richard hell and the faces than the ramones.

NYRBill: according to Wiki their debut single was '68

Yes I think that was self funded, the elektra LP came later. And no one is an expert on fark, or we would all be getting kicks out of the replies... ;-)

The Dynamite Monkey: The idea that the pistols and ramones heard the ramones and then picked up guitar is a fallacy.

brain fart, i meant pistols and clash obviously.

The Dynamite Monkey: Because he was a great guy and he loved them. And that is not exactly what he said anyway.
But both the Clash and the Pistols were rehearsing and gigging prior to the Ramones London debut on 7/4/76.
The idea that the pistols and Clash heard the Ramones and then picked up guitar is a fallacy.
The pistols in particular owed a lot more to the dolls, Richard hell and the faces than the Ramones.

I was talking about their first album. not the July 4 '76 show

NYRBill: I was talking about their first album. not the July 4 '76 show

Really not much different, since it was released only 2 1/2 months prior.

The existence of the clash is directly related to two things:

1) Malcolm McLaren acolyte Bernie Rhodes wanting to make his own sex pistols. He really "formed" the clash, (much more than Malc did the pistols, thee of whom were already playing together when Malc met them).

2) Joe Strummers' 101ers opening up for the pistols and seeing them live. joe quit the 101ers (their first single was pressed and ready for release!) and joined the clash the next day.

Again, I love the ramones more than almost anybody -- but their inspiration really had very little to do with the pistols or the clash.

The Dynamite Monkey: Joe Strummers' 101ers opening up for the pistols and seeing them live.

Actually now that i think of it I think it was the other way around, the pistols opened for the 101ers.

The Dynamite Monkey: 1) Malcolm McLaren acolyte Bernie Rhodes wanting to make his own sex pistols. He really "formed" the clash, (much more than Malc did the pistols, thee of whom were already playing together when Malc met them).

Aha! So you admit that the Clash were a boy band!

/Kidding, natch.
//They were more like the Monkees.
///Mickey Dolenz was the Tory Crimes of the band.