(Washington Post) Congress just passed a bill costing $680B for the military, and that doesn't include the wars. You might not have heard that on the news, since they are too busy asking if universal health care is too expensive at $90B per year
bronyaur1:feckingmorons: I'll pay for my own insurance. I can't afford my own M1A1 Abrams Tank.
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Just curious... what are the criteria you suggest for making this distinction?
Easy. Government exists to take violence out of human interactions, and make the use of force subject to very strict principles. Governments do not have the right to commit acts of violence against anyone who has done nothing wrong. That means no social engineering, no government-run health care plans, no proscriptive regulation of businesses, etc.
In terms you might be more familiar with: government exist to protect and enforce the principles of individual rights. That is all. End of list.
Capitalist1:bronyaur1: feckingmorons: I'll pay for my own insurance. I can't afford my own M1A1 Abrams Tank.
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Just curious... what are the criteria you suggest for making this distinction?
Easy. Government exists to take violence out of human interactions, and make the use of force subject to very strict principles. Governments do not have the right to commit acts of violence against anyone who has done nothing wrong. That means no social engineering, no government-run health care plans, no proscriptive regulation of businesses, etc.
In terms you might be more familiar with: government exist to protect and enforce the principles of individual rights. That is all. End of list.
There are many who believe that access to health care is a human right. In fact, this includes nearly every developed country in the world.
Capitalist1:bronyaur1: feckingmorons: I'll pay for my own insurance. I can't afford my own M1A1 Abrams Tank.
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Just curious... what are the criteria you suggest for making this distinction?
Easy. Government exists to take violence out of human interactions, and make the use of force subject to very strict principles. Governments do not have the right to commit acts of violence against anyone who has done nothing wrong. That means no social engineering, no government-run health care plans, no proscriptive regulation of businesses, etc.
In terms you might be more familiar with: government exist to protect and enforce the principles of individual rights. That is all. End of list.
Capitalist1:bronyaur1: feckingmorons: I'll pay for my own insurance. I can't afford my own M1A1 Abrams Tank.
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Just curious... what are the criteria you suggest for making this distinction?
Easy. Government exists to take violence out of human interactions, and make the use of force subject to very strict principles. Governments do not have the right to commit acts of violence against anyone who has done nothing wrong. That means no social engineering, no government-run health care plans, no proscriptive regulation of businesses, etc.
In terms you might be more familiar with: government exist to protect and enforce the principles of individual rights. That is all. End of list.
Cool, please don't call my fire department when your house catches fire, or use my educational system for your children, or expect your money to be given back to you when your bank collapses, or collect social security, or use medicare, or drive on the roads, or buy any product or food that has been tested or certified safe by the government.
Of course, since your either an just ignorant or a hypocrite, your gonna do all that stuff but then biatch about it, instead of doing what you should do if you truly believe that junk you just spewed and pack your butt up and move to a country with no central government like Afghanistan.
Fototark:COUGH, COUGH: House health bill totals $1.2 trillion...
That's the point. They refer to bills like health care in terms of their 10-year cost. What would the political conversation be like if we had a big debate over whether we should be spending $6.8 trillion (over the next 10 years) for the Defense Department? And another $2.5 trillion or whatever on the wars?
feckingmorons:I'll pay for my own insurance. I can't afford my own M1A1 Abrams Tank.
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Then congratulations! Not only are you paying for the military to have an Abrams Tank but you're also paying for the military to have healthcare. You get jack.
Capitalist1:Easy. Government exists to take violence out of human interactions, and make the use of force subject to very strict principles. Governments do not have the right to commit acts of violence against anyone who has done nothing wrong. That means no social engineering, no government-run health care plans, no proscriptive regulation of businesses, etc.
In terms you might be more familiar with: government exist to protect and enforce the principles of individual rights. That is all. End of list.
Heh. Randians with no conception of the rational response to collective action dilemmas are so cute.
Here's why so much money is spent on the military: it protects the rich and their assets. The cannon fodder comes from the lower classes, almost for free.
DamnYankees
2009-11-02 09:34:26 PM
feckingmorons
2009-11-02 09:40:42 PM
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Mentat
2009-11-02 09:42:28 PM
Fototark
2009-11-02 09:43:30 PM
bronyaur1
2009-11-02 09:44:29 PM
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Just curious... what are the criteria you suggest for making this distinction?
DamnYankees
2009-11-02 09:45:41 PM
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Congratulations. That has nothing to do with TFA.
FredaDeStilleto
2009-11-02 09:46:50 PM
Sounds like a code word. I bet we'll be invaded by the end of the week.
feckingmorons
2009-11-02 09:52:12 PM
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Just curious... what are the criteria you suggest for making this distinction?
My insurance costs way less than a tank, but is not nearly as cool? Is that what you were looking for?
Capitalist1
2009-11-02 09:53:01 PM
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Just curious... what are the criteria you suggest for making this distinction?
Easy. Government exists to take violence out of human interactions, and make the use of force subject to very strict principles. Governments do not have the right to commit acts of violence against anyone who has done nothing wrong. That means no social engineering, no government-run health care plans, no proscriptive regulation of businesses, etc.
In terms you might be more familiar with: government exist to protect and enforce the principles of individual rights. That is all. End of list.
feckingmorons
2009-11-02 09:54:48 PM
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Congratulations. That has nothing to do with TFA.
Oh, I'm sorry is there a new rule at Fark?
bronyaur1
2009-11-02 09:55:00 PM
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Just curious... what are the criteria you suggest for making this distinction?
My insurance costs way less than a tank, but is not nearly as cool? Is that what you were looking for?
Not exactly... how do you determine which goods and services the government best provides versus those best provided by private markets?
bronyaur1
2009-11-02 09:57:07 PM
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Just curious... what are the criteria you suggest for making this distinction?
Easy. Government exists to take violence out of human interactions, and make the use of force subject to very strict principles. Governments do not have the right to commit acts of violence against anyone who has done nothing wrong. That means no social engineering, no government-run health care plans, no proscriptive regulation of businesses, etc.
In terms you might be more familiar with: government exist to protect and enforce the principles of individual rights. That is all. End of list.
There are many who believe that access to health care is a human right. In fact, this includes nearly every developed country in the world.
Fototark
2009-11-02 09:57:42 PM
BritneysSpeculum
2009-11-02 09:58:51 PM
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Just curious... what are the criteria you suggest for making this distinction?
Easy. Government exists to take violence out of human interactions, and make the use of force subject to very strict principles. Governments do not have the right to commit acts of violence against anyone who has done nothing wrong. That means no social engineering, no government-run health care plans, no proscriptive regulation of businesses, etc.
In terms you might be more familiar with: government exist to protect and enforce the principles of individual rights. That is all. End of list.
So the Erie Canal was unconstitutional?
jevman
2009-11-02 09:59:03 PM
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Just curious... what are the criteria you suggest for making this distinction?
Easy. Government exists to take violence out of human interactions, and make the use of force subject to very strict principles. Governments do not have the right to commit acts of violence against anyone who has done nothing wrong. That means no social engineering, no government-run health care plans, no proscriptive regulation of businesses, etc.
In terms you might be more familiar with: government exist to protect and enforce the principles of individual rights. That is all. End of list.
Cool, please don't call my fire department when your house catches fire, or use my educational system for your children, or expect your money to be given back to you when your bank collapses, or collect social security, or use medicare, or drive on the roads, or buy any product or food that has been tested or certified safe by the government.
Of course, since your either an just ignorant or a hypocrite, your gonna do all that stuff but then biatch about it, instead of doing what you should do if you truly believe that junk you just spewed and pack your butt up and move to a country with no central government like Afghanistan.
dahmers love zombie
2009-11-02 10:01:44 PM
Over a decade, not a year. Need something for that cough?
Racht
2009-11-02 10:06:47 PM
That's the point. They refer to bills like health care in terms of their 10-year cost. What would the political conversation be like if we had a big debate over whether we should be spending $6.8 trillion (over the next 10 years) for the Defense Department? And another $2.5 trillion or whatever on the wars?
Action Replay Nick
2009-11-02 10:10:05 PM
oldebayer
2009-11-02 10:12:07 PM
ToxicMunkee
2009-11-02 10:24:28 PM
There are some things the government should do, and some that they should not.
Then congratulations! Not only are you paying for the military to have an Abrams Tank but you're also paying for the military to have healthcare. You get jack.
Abagadro
2009-11-02 10:24:52 PM
In terms you might be more familiar with: government exist to protect and enforce the principles of individual rights. That is all. End of list.
Heh. Randians with no conception of the rational response to collective action dilemmas are so cute.
DamnYankees
2009-11-02 10:26:52 PM
No. No it doesn't.
Sgygus
2009-11-02 10:33:04 PM
hackhix
2009-11-02 10:36:56 PM
The Icelander
2009-11-02 10:46:44 PM
And why should I be forced AT GUNPOINT to pay for something I DON'T CONSENT TO????
If national defense is SO IMPORTANT to you TAX AND SPEND LIBERALS why don't you START A BUSINESS?!?!?
\am I doing it right?