Oh my...

"Not everyone regards the emergence of the girly men as completely positive"

Case in point:

I know why this has happened. They pixelate their porn. If the poor guys knew what a kitty was, their testosterone levels would be higher and they'd regain their manhood.

Just a theory...

This was the most disturbing part of the entire article:

Japanese brewers have introduced weaker beers as sales of conventional alcoholic beverages have declined. A company named WishRoom sells bras for men - designed with manly simplicity, free of lace and frills.

I just went the weak beer part...fark it.

I lied this comment is the most ditrubing part:
tom cow wrote:
Japan knew 12 years ago, plastic baby bottles caused male babies to have no balls, and no one has any balls to tell the plastic industry they are the fault. And females lose their ability to reproduce; this single industry (plastic) is the fault and blame for the explosion of homosexual and lesbian children. Because it changes and effects your hormones! Use no plastic for anything, especially with children and infants. It is a illegal now in Japan to use plastic baby bottles or bags.

Thank goodness we can still use plastic baby bags here.

Huh. They're not gay, they just want to dress hot, stay at home, raise kids, and bake.

Maybe I should take a second look at that Japanese dating service.

Japanese people are make believe.

/crazy japan thread

Not impressed. Japanese men.......be happy in your work.

They need this guy to come and teach'em how to be men

I love Japan.

It'll be really sad when it's gone.

And this is why I love living in Japan.

I consider this great - white devil taking what they are giving up.

This reminds me of the NY Times article about Japanese men with pillow girlfriends (google "Love in 2D". Seriously. Worth a read.)

Serious question time:

How should men behave?

Is the absence of this behavior in some men a positive or a negative? Why?

Way to catch onto the "skirt tribe," British media.

FTA: About half of men aged 20 to 34, he says, are unmarried and only 20 per cent of them have girlfriends. Thirty per cent, according to Professor Yamada, have never had a girlfriend in their lives.

Wow, they must have a lower reproduction rate than pandas. We may have to start up breeding programs to prevent extinction.

Red Shirt Blues: Not impressed. Japanese men.......be happy in your work.

This is what happens when you nuke the manliness out of a nation.

Reverend Otis: I love Japan.

It'll be really sad when it's gone.



Looks like somebody watched Vexille: 2077 Japanese Isolation.

/scary animated movie

Gwendolyn: I lied this comment is the most ditrubing part:
tom cow wrote:
Japan knew 12 years ago, plastic baby bottles caused male babies to have no balls, and no one has any balls to tell the plastic industry they are the fault. And females lose their ability to reproduce; this single industry (plastic) is the fault and blame for the explosion of homosexual and lesbian children. Because it changes and effects your hormones! Use no plastic for anything, especially with children and infants. It is a illegal now in Japan to use plastic baby bottles or bags.

Out of curosity, does lack of testosterone or estrogen have anything to do with homosexuality? I would assume no but i'm merely curious about the answer. I would think that logically testosterone would control sex drive, but it really wouldn't "aim" that sex drive at women, and lack of testosterone wouldn't mean libido would be changed to aim at men?

Or I might be completely wrong.

Gunther: FTA: About half of men aged 20 to 34, he says, are unmarried and only 20 per cent of them have girlfriends. Thirty per cent, according to Professor Yamada, have never had a girlfriend in their lives.

Wow, they must have a lower reproduction rate than pandas. We may have to start up breeding programs to prevent extinction.

I've been working on it.

/breeding the hell out of 'em

My grandfather didn't go to Guam back in the day to fight these devils so that their grandchildren could grow up and be sissy boys. Tojo must be spinning in his grave.

Seriously, even the old cultures that were tolerant of homosexual behavior still knew it's wrong to be a nancy boy. Their rules were kind of like what we have in prison - it was fine if you were like the husband. The 'wife' had better be a slave or a boy from the lower classes. The ancient Greeks and Romans didn't put up with this girly nonsense.

Whatever happened to the Japanese of a few generations back that rampaged through Asia and fought John Wayne?

ModernLuddite: This reminds me of the NY Times article about Japanese men with pillow girlfriends (google "Love in 2D". Seriously. Worth a read.)

Serious question time:

How should men behave?

Is the absence of this behavior in some men a positive or a negative? Why?

Is the absence of which behavior? the 2D behavior or "masculine" behavior?

Also, i'm curious if this is just an example of the pendelum swinging back the other way, as the opposite of the normal extremely pervaisive sexism the japanese used to (still do?) display.

wingedkat: Huh. They're not gay, they just want to dress hot, stay at home, raise kids, and bake.

Maybe I should take a second look at that Japanese dating service.

seconded. but why are they wearing bras and drinking piss-water beers?

FTA: Thirty per cent, according to Professor Yamada, have never had a girlfriend in their lives.

I really don't get it. How is baking cookies and wearing skirts preferable to the poon?

locater16: They need this guy to come and teach'em how to be men

The Japanese are a wee bit xenophobic, they would never listen to the Duke. No, what we need here is a little bit of this guy...



Unfortunately, to pull that off you would need either a



or a



/aisle seat
//love his movies

drinki bird: wingedkat: Huh. They're not gay, they just want to dress hot, stay at home, raise kids, and bake.

Maybe I should take a second look at that Japanese dating service.

seconded. but why are they wearing bras and drinking piss-water beers?

*shrug* does it matter?

So, a Japanese men's lib? Ahead of the curve. Women get to act in traditionally feminine ways OR traditionally masculine ways or any combination of the above that they want. It's about time men caught up.

What's bothering me is that the pursuit of cakes is considered a pastime.

StormnMormon: Gwendolyn: I lied this comment is the most ditrubing part:
tom cow wrote:
Japan knew 12 years ago, plastic baby bottles caused male babies to have no balls, and no one has any balls to tell the plastic industry they are the fault. And females lose their ability to reproduce; this single industry (plastic) is the fault and blame for the explosion of homosexual and lesbian children. Because it changes and effects your hormones! Use no plastic for anything, especially with children and infants. It is a illegal now in Japan to use plastic baby bottles or bags.

Out of curosity, does lack of testosterone or estrogen have anything to do with homosexuality? I would assume no but i'm merely curious about the answer. I would think that logically testosterone would control sex drive, but it really wouldn't "aim" that sex drive at women, and lack of testosterone wouldn't mean libido would be changed to aim at men?

Or I might be completely wrong.

I have read alot about pthalates lately and am appalled at how common of an ingredient in cheap children's lip gloss and cosmetics they are. I won't let my child use these cheap products, it's scary that many adult products are currently safer for everyone than kiddie makeup.

keloyd: My grandfather didn't go to Guam back in the day to fight these devils so that their grandchildren could grow up and be sissy boys. Tojo must be spinning in his grave.

Seriously, even the old cultures that were tolerant of homosexual behavior still knew it's wrong to be a nancy boy. Their rules were kind of like what we have in prison - it was fine if you were like the husband. The 'wife' had better be a slave or a boy from the lower classes. The ancient Greeks and Romans didn't put up with this girly nonsense.

Many strong warrior cultures practice homosexuality simply because men are so celebrated. Women are to produce children - and if you are manly, you're having sex with the folks around - other men. Inferior men.

ModernLuddite: Serious question time: How should men behave?

"In peace there's nothing so becomes a man as modest stillness and humility: But when the blast of war blows in our ears, Then imitate the action of the tiger; Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood, Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage; Then lend the eye a terrible aspect."
~ Shakespeare, Henry V

So if I'm to understand this article, the newest generation of males are weak-willed, overly feminine, and terrible at cultivating romantic relationships with women?



My god, it's turning into a country of Shinjis!

StormnMormon: Gwendolyn: I lied this comment is the most ditrubing part:
tom cow wrote:
Japan knew 12 years ago, plastic baby bottles caused male babies to have no balls, and no one has any balls to tell the plastic industry they are the fault. And females lose their ability to reproduce; this single industry (plastic) is the fault and blame for the explosion of homosexual and lesbian children. Because it changes and effects your hormones! Use no plastic for anything, especially with children and infants. It is a illegal now in Japan to use plastic baby bottles or bags.

Out of curosity, does lack of testosterone or estrogen have anything to do with homosexuality? I would assume no but i'm merely curious about the answer. I would think that logically testosterone would control sex drive, but it really wouldn't "aim" that sex drive at women, and lack of testosterone wouldn't mean libido would be changed to aim at men?

Or I might be completely wrong.

It's activating versus organizing effects. A testosterone surge before/around birth masculinizes the brain. Of course it's more complicated than that, but yes it is a factor. By blunting this spike you can make gay animals.

Fano: keloyd: My grandfather didn't go to Guam back in the day to fight these devils so that their grandchildren could grow up and be sissy boys. Tojo must be spinning in his grave.

Seriously, even the old cultures that were tolerant of homosexual behavior still knew it's wrong to be a nancy boy. Their rules were kind of like what we have in prison - it was fine if you were like the husband. The 'wife' had better be a slave or a boy from the lower classes. The ancient Greeks and Romans didn't put up with this girly nonsense.

Many strong warrior cultures practice homosexuality simply because men are so celebrated. Women are to produce children - and if you are manly, you're having sex with the folks around - other men. Inferior men.

No, warrior cultures do not practice homosexulity, although some practiced a form of homosexual relations.

Very, very different things.

Strolpol: So if I'm to understand this article, the newest generation of males are weak-willed, overly feminine, and terrible at cultivating romantic relationships with women?



My god, it's turning into a country of Shinjis!

My god I wanna slap that goddamned cry-baby.

You know what? I'm not a "girly man" at all, but I still see nothing wrong with this.

They like shopping and eating cake? I do those things.

StormnMormon: Out of curosity, does lack of testosterone or estrogen have anything to do with homosexuality?

Apparently, male homosexuality is correlated with smaller amounts of a hormone called dihydrotestosterone being produced during pregnancy, so the answer is "sort of".

Swampthing in Korea: Fano: keloyd: My grandfather didn't go to Guam back in the day to fight these devils so that their grandchildren could grow up and be sissy boys. Tojo must be spinning in his grave.

Seriously, even the old cultures that were tolerant of homosexual behavior still knew it's wrong to be a nancy boy. Their rules were kind of like what we have in prison - it was fine if you were like the husband. The 'wife' had better be a slave or a boy from the lower classes. The ancient Greeks and Romans didn't put up with this girly nonsense.

Many strong warrior cultures practice homosexuality simply because men are so celebrated. Women are to produce children - and if you are manly, you're having sex with the folks around - other men. Inferior men.

No, warrior cultures do not practice homosexulity, although some practiced a form of homosexual relations.

Very, very different things.

Fair enough, and you're right.

So what you're saying is that all I have to do is go over there, knock a few girly men's teeth in, and I'll have my pick of their women? Count me in. I was under the impression that Japanese men were more like this:

WFern: You know what? I'm not a "girly man" at all, but I still see nothing wrong with this.

They like shopping and eating cake? I do those things.

The cake is a lie.

Swampthing in Korea: Fano: keloyd: My grandfather didn't go to Guam back in the day to fight these devils so that their grandchildren could grow up and be sissy boys. Tojo must be spinning in his grave.

Seriously, even the old cultures that were tolerant of homosexual behavior still knew it's wrong to be a nancy boy. Their rules were kind of like what we have in prison - it was fine if you were like the husband. The 'wife' had better be a slave or a boy from the lower classes. The ancient Greeks and Romans didn't put up with this girly nonsense.

Many strong warrior cultures practice homosexuality simply because men are so celebrated. Women are to produce children - and if you are manly, you're having sex with the folks around - other men. Inferior men.

No, warrior cultures do not practice homosexulity, although some practiced a form of homosexual relations.

Very, very different things.

It's worth pointing out that many Native American cultures actually did have an accepted tribal role for "girly men". They were often the ones that were in charge of organizing religious rituals and making sure that the outfits/jewelry/makeup was done correctly.

And of course, eunuchs have served a huge variety of roles throughout history in many different capacities.

Fano: WFern: You know what? I'm not a "girly man" at all, but I still see nothing wrong with this.

They like shopping and eating cake? I do those things.

The cake is a lie.

Seriously though... who the hell doesn't like eating cake?

WFern: Fano: WFern: You know what? I'm not a "girly man" at all, but I still see nothing wrong with this.

They like shopping and eating cake? I do those things.

The cake is a lie.

Seriously though... who the hell doesn't like eating cake?

My friend from Columbia doesn't

i, for one, welcome our new girly-man overlords