(Some Guy) The world's first Hotel in Space is taking reservations for 2012. "Guests can crawl around their pod rooms by sticking themselves to the walls like Spider-Man."
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude:I'm not too familiar with Russian space rocketry success/failure rates, so do these two statements contradict one another or not?
well- Engrish aside, if Russian rockets are good enough for NASA, they're good enough for me.
/besides Russia beat us in the space race. It's true- they did.
yarnothuntin:Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: I'm not too familiar with Russian space rocketry success/failure rates, so do these two statements contradict one another or not?
well- Engrish aside, if Russian rockets are good enough for NASA, they're good enough for me.
/besides Russia beat us in the space race. It's true- they did.
Eh? So what if they beat us into space? First off it wasn't because they were more technically advanced, no it was because we mismanaged the assets we had and were bungled by a lack of political will (Kind of like today).
The easiest example is that the US Army took the first photos from the edge of space in 1946 with a modified V2 rocket, weren't the ones who were put in charge of putting the first US satellite into orbit. No, Eisenhower put that job to the US Navy instead (Which failed miserably, obviously). Then when Explorer one was launched without a hitch, well guess who was involved there? Yup, the US Army again.
The United States has always been perfectly capable, around Gemini we begun to surpass the Russians. It just took us a while to get our butts into gear. Which will probably be the case again when the Chinese are the next nation to land men on the moon, and we're nothing but spectators.
As for the Russians, remember them? Even at the height of the Soviet Union they were no match for NASA, which was clear enough when they couldn't get their own moon rocket to function despite trying to 1972. This effectively ended the moon race (sadly), and since the fall of the USSR they've regressed even more.
Their last successful mission beyond LEO was in 1984! This is just unmanned spacecraft, since nobody but the US has been beyond LEO with humans. Then there is the fact that despite being older, the Soyuz spacecraft has had less missions than the Space Shuttle. This isn't so much to do with the Soyuz capabilities as the abilities of the Russian government, as things were pretty hairy there for a while after the collapse and its only now that they are returning to the former glory of the Soviet Union.
I guess my point is that it doesn't amount to much that the Russians were first, especially if they don't have a space program as robust and capable as the United States as the result of it. Its not so much important as who was first, as who could keep up and they couldn't.
bbfreak:yarnothuntin: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: I'm not too familiar with Russian space rocketry success/failure rates, so do these two statements contradict one another or not?
well- Engrish aside, if Russian rockets are good enough for NASA, they're good enough for me.
/besides Russia beat us in the space race. It's true- they did.
Eh? So what if they beat us into space? First off it wasn't because they were more technically advanced, no it was because we mismanaged the assets we had and were bungled by a lack of political will (Kind of like today).
The easiest example is that the US Army took the first photos from the edge of space in 1946 with a modified V2 rocket, weren't the ones who were put in charge of putting the first US satellite into orbit. No, Eisenhower put that job to the US Navy instead (Which failed miserably, obviously). Then when Explorer one was launched without a hitch, well guess who was involved there? Yup, the US Army again.
The United States has always been perfectly capable, around Gemini we begun to surpass the Russians. It just took us a while to get our butts into gear. Which will probably be the case again when the Chinese are the next nation to land men on the moon, and we're nothing but spectators.
As for the Russians, remember them? Even at the height of the Soviet Union they were no match for NASA, which was clear enough when they couldn't get their own moon rocket to function despite trying till 1972. This effectively ended the space race (sadly), and since the fall of the USSR they've regressed even more.
Their last successful mission beyond LEO was in 1984! This is just unmanned spacecraft, since nobody but the US has been beyond LEO with humans. Then there is the fact that despite being older, the Soyuz spacecraft has had less missions than the Space Shuttle. This isn't so much to do with the Soyuz capabilities as the abilities of the Russian government, as things were pretty hairy there for a while after the collapse and its only now that they are returning to the former glory of the Soviet Union.
I guess my point is that it doesn't amount to much that the Russians were first, especially if they don't have a space program as robust and capable as the United States as the result of it. Its not so much important as who was first, as who could keep up and they couldn't.
bbfreak:yarnothuntin: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: I'm not too familiar with Russian space rocketry success/failure rates, so do these two statements contradict one another or not?
well- Engrish aside, if Russian rockets are good enough for NASA, they're good enough for me.
/besides Russia beat us in the space race. It's true- they did.
Eh? So what if they beat us into space? First off it wasn't because they were more technically advanced, no it was because we mismanaged the assets we had and were bungled by a lack of political will (Kind of like today).
tl/dr
I guess my point is that it doesn't amount to much that the Russians were first, especially if they don't have a space program as robust and capable as the United States as the result of it. Its not so much important as who was first, as who could keep up and they couldn't.
bbfreak: It's not just because they were the first up, they were consistently the first on several occasions. First satellite, first animal in space, first man in space, first woman in space, first spacewalk, first to orbit the moon, first to land on the moon, first to Venus, first ship to ship docking in orbit... the list goes on. Their program suffered the same fate NASA is now- funding, or the lack there of. Remember: no bucks, no Buck Rogers.
but if it happens, i have to come up with a few million dollars in the next couple years. /sorry, folks, i'll be busy now so I won't be posting on fark.
Uh yeah....Galactic Suites has kind of a dubious reputation in the space community. Mostly because they've yet to show they have any actual working hardware.
If you're looking for a commercial space hotel, bet on Bigelow Aerospace's Skywalker I.
Sorry. I'd rather not risk death by rapid decompression while on vacation... That doesn't seem too relaxing to me. If I want to pay a fortune with a risk of my lungs collapsing, I'll pay a room full of overweight hookers to bounce on me for a week.
/Not that I've ever done that before. //Wouldn't know where to find a room full.
Pseudowolf:How are they going to handle clean-up after couples start joining the *real* Mile High Club?
Probably won't be much of a problem. I've read that the lack of gravity causes your blood pressure to decrease, making it harder to ... err ... get hard.
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
2009-11-02 06:16:55 AM
"When the passengers arrive in the rocket, they will join it for the days, rocket and capsule," he said.
"With this we create in the tourist a confidence that he hasn't been abandoned.
and
Galactic Suite say they will use Russian rockets to transport their guests into space
yarnothuntin
2009-11-02 07:11:09 AM
well- Engrish aside, if Russian rockets are good enough for NASA, they're good enough for me.
/besides Russia beat us in the space race. It's true- they did.
Broken Logic
2009-11-02 07:33:36 AM
/thought was supposed to be a bit further off...
Squawky
2009-11-02 08:46:55 AM
/adjusts tinfoil hat
imgod2u
2009-11-02 08:54:07 AM
bbfreak
2009-11-02 08:59:38 AM
well- Engrish aside, if Russian rockets are good enough for NASA, they're good enough for me.
/besides Russia beat us in the space race. It's true- they did.
Eh? So what if they beat us into space? First off it wasn't because they were more technically advanced, no it was because we mismanaged the assets we had and were bungled by a lack of political will (Kind of like today).
The easiest example is that the US Army took the first photos from the edge of space in 1946 with a modified V2 rocket, weren't the ones who were put in charge of putting the first US satellite into orbit. No, Eisenhower put that job to the US Navy instead (Which failed miserably, obviously). Then when Explorer one was launched without a hitch, well guess who was involved there? Yup, the US Army again.
The United States has always been perfectly capable, around Gemini we begun to surpass the Russians. It just took us a while to get our butts into gear. Which will probably be the case again when the Chinese are the next nation to land men on the moon, and we're nothing but spectators.
As for the Russians, remember them? Even at the height of the Soviet Union they were no match for NASA, which was clear enough when they couldn't get their own moon rocket to function despite trying to 1972. This effectively ended the moon race (sadly), and since the fall of the USSR they've regressed even more.
Their last successful mission beyond LEO was in 1984! This is just unmanned spacecraft, since nobody but the US has been beyond LEO with humans. Then there is the fact that despite being older, the Soyuz spacecraft has had less missions than the Space Shuttle. This isn't so much to do with the Soyuz capabilities as the abilities of the Russian government, as things were pretty hairy there for a while after the collapse and its only now that they are returning to the former glory of the Soviet Union.
I guess my point is that it doesn't amount to much that the Russians were first, especially if they don't have a space program as robust and capable as the United States as the result of it. Its not so much important as who was first, as who could keep up and they couldn't.
bbfreak
2009-11-02 09:02:04 AM
well- Engrish aside, if Russian rockets are good enough for NASA, they're good enough for me.
/besides Russia beat us in the space race. It's true- they did.
Eh? So what if they beat us into space? First off it wasn't because they were more technically advanced, no it was because we mismanaged the assets we had and were bungled by a lack of political will (Kind of like today).
The easiest example is that the US Army took the first photos from the edge of space in 1946 with a modified V2 rocket, weren't the ones who were put in charge of putting the first US satellite into orbit. No, Eisenhower put that job to the US Navy instead (Which failed miserably, obviously). Then when Explorer one was launched without a hitch, well guess who was involved there? Yup, the US Army again.
The United States has always been perfectly capable, around Gemini we begun to surpass the Russians. It just took us a while to get our butts into gear. Which will probably be the case again when the Chinese are the next nation to land men on the moon, and we're nothing but spectators.
As for the Russians, remember them? Even at the height of the Soviet Union they were no match for NASA, which was clear enough when they couldn't get their own moon rocket to function despite trying till 1972. This effectively ended the space race (sadly), and since the fall of the USSR they've regressed even more.
Their last successful mission beyond LEO was in 1984! This is just unmanned spacecraft, since nobody but the US has been beyond LEO with humans. Then there is the fact that despite being older, the Soyuz spacecraft has had less missions than the Space Shuttle. This isn't so much to do with the Soyuz capabilities as the abilities of the Russian government, as things were pretty hairy there for a while after the collapse and its only now that they are returning to the former glory of the Soviet Union.
I guess my point is that it doesn't amount to much that the Russians were first, especially if they don't have a space program as robust and capable as the United States as the result of it. Its not so much important as who was first, as who could keep up and they couldn't.
Jean-Puc_Licard
2009-11-02 09:50:14 AM
well- Engrish aside, if Russian rockets are good enough for NASA, they're good enough for me.
/besides Russia beat us in the space race. It's true- they did.
Eh? So what if they beat us into space? First off it wasn't because they were more technically advanced, no it was because we mismanaged the assets we had and were bungled by a lack of political will (Kind of like today).
tl/dr
I guess my point is that it doesn't amount to much that the Russians were first, especially if they don't have a space program as robust and capable as the United States as the result of it. Its not so much important as who was first, as who could keep up and they couldn't.
wow still butthurt after 48 years
yarnothuntin
2009-11-02 10:05:32 AM
Zentelis
2009-11-02 10:18:51 AM
but if it happens, i have to come up with a few million dollars in the next couple years.
/sorry, folks, i'll be busy now so I won't be posting on fark.
Pseudowolf
2009-11-02 10:40:24 AM
imagonyx123
2009-11-02 10:42:56 AM
spacermase
2009-11-02 10:50:58 AM
If you're looking for a commercial space hotel, bet on Bigelow Aerospace's Skywalker I.
dittybopper
2009-11-02 11:01:13 AM
wumperton
2009-11-02 11:12:29 AM
boothboy007
2009-11-02 11:30:11 AM
ZeroCorpse
2009-11-02 11:38:36 AM
/Not that I've ever done that before.
//Wouldn't know where to find a room full.
Dallymo
2009-11-02 11:41:10 AM
It's the only word they know!
Zentelis
2009-11-02 11:50:17 AM
But you'll risk driving or flying to some vacation destination. Just as much risk of death in those two travel scenarios.
ok..well..maybe slightly less risk considering some company thinks they're gonna go from 0 to space in less than 2 years...
"woohoo! our hotel is now in space! What's the piece that just fell off?"
/wasn't busting on you, it was just a good setup
ZeroCorpse
2009-11-02 11:55:56 AM
But you'll risk driving or flying to some vacation destination. Just as much risk of death in those two travel scenarios.
ok..well..maybe slightly less risk considering some company thinks they're gonna go from 0 to space in less than 2 years...
"woohoo! our hotel is now in space! What's the piece that just fell off?"
/wasn't busting on you, it was just a good setup
1. I don't like flying, but at least if the plane has a busted part, I'm able to breathe atmosphere until I crash.
2. On the bus, EVERYONE can hear you scream.
3. "...DIES IN HOTEL CRASH" is not a phrase I would like to see behind my name.
stevetherobot
2009-11-02 12:05:29 PM
Probably won't be much of a problem. I've read that the lack of gravity causes your blood pressure to decrease, making it harder to ... err ... get hard.
Nogale
2009-11-02 12:14:32 PM
Nogale
2009-11-02 12:16:49 PM
MeYou to the Moon and Back" takes on a whole new meaning.FTFM
CravenMorehead
2009-11-02 12:27:20 PM
busy chillin'
2009-11-02 12:40:58 PM