Don't worry, tea partiers, I'm sure it'll work out. After all, Cynthia was the tea partier and won $100,000.

I actually did not see that coming.

I'm waiting for the long line of Dems to come here and start praising her for her decision, even though she's a nasty awful whargarbling Republican.

Like by virtue of supporting their team, all of her past 'crimes' are absolved.

/A third party victory here is a victory for third party candidates everywhere.

tallguywithglasseson: I actually did not see that coming.

When prominent Republicans (Tim Pawlenty, Palin, among others) come out and endorse her "independent" teabagger candidate, what would you expect?

PapermonkeyExpress: /A third party victory here is a victory for third party candidates everywhere.

The Nazi assent in Germany was not a victory for the Communists -- quite the opposite. A far right win in New York state is not a victory for Greens.

PapermonkeyExpress: I'm waiting for the long line of Dems to come here and start praising her for her decision, even though she's a nasty awful whargarbling Republican.

Like by virtue of supporting their team, all of her past 'crimes' are absolved.

/A third party victory here is a victory for third party candidates everywhere.

nice. put words in peoples' mouths, then comment on them. third party my ass. a candidate endorsed by sarah palin isn't shaking anything up.

Lost Thought 00: tallguywithglasseson: I actually did not see that coming.

When prominent Republicans (Tim Pawlenty, Palin, among others) come out and endorse her "independent" teabagger candidate, what would you expect?

It's a big 'fark you' to Gingrich back-tracking on his support.

I'm glad that the swinging of the Republican party for the last 30 years to the crazy side is finally having some consequences.

PapermonkeyExpress: I'm waiting for the long line of Dems to come here and start praising her for her decision, even though she's a nasty awful whargarbling Republican.

Like by virtue of supporting their team, all of her past 'crimes' are absolved.

/A third party victory here is a victory for third party candidates everywhere.

You either know she's very moderate and was recruited to be a candidate by the Dems not too long ago and have chosen to ignore the fact, or you didn't and are talking out of your asshole. Please tell us which.

Makes sense. Her stances were far more in line with the democrats than republicans. This is probably for the best for her anyway. She would've been one of the very few sane republicans in congress. The crazy probably would've rubbed off on her.

She's bitter her party ditched her.

Rightly so? Perhaps.

DarnoKonrad: PapermonkeyExpress: /A third party victory here is a victory for third party candidates everywhere.

The Nazi assent in Germany was not a victory for the Communists -- quite the opposite. A far right win in New York state is not a victory for Greens.

Thats only true assuming this guy is going to be able to accomplish something. If not, it could be a small boon to the greens.

/and those assholes in the Constitution party...

PapermonkeyExpress: I'm waiting for the long line of Dems to come here and start praising her for her decision, even though she's a nasty awful whargarbling Republican.

Like by virtue of supporting their team, all of her past 'crimes' are absolved.

/A third party victory here is a victory for third party candidates everywhere.

If she was a "whargarbling Republican" then the party would never have stabbed her in the back and campaigned against her.

Mr. Anon: Makes sense. Her stances were far more in line with the democrats than republicans. This is probably for the best for her anyway. She would've been one of the very few sane republicans in congress. The crazy probably would've rubbed off on her.

Pray tell, who do you find "crazy" and who do you find "sane" in Nancy Pelosi's Congress?

"Dierdre Scozzafava"


hehehehehe


Also:



WTF? I thought Republican women were all supposed to be drop dead gorgeous because the Invisible Hand put midichlorians in their bajingoes or some shiat or other.

Or is that why they're so anxious to go for Hoffman?

Barak vEsh: I'm glad that the swinging of the Republican party for the last 30 years to the crazy side is finally having some consequences.

30 years ago, the GOP sold it's soul to the Religious Right, for short-term political gain.

Now, the Devil has shown up to collect his due.

mabelkitty: Mr. Anon: Makes sense. Her stances were far more in line with the democrats than republicans. This is probably for the best for her anyway. She would've been one of the very few sane republicans in congress. The crazy probably would've rubbed off on her.

Pray tell, who do you find "crazy" and who do you find "sane" in Nancy Pelosi's Congress?

I think the best way we could determine the relative sanity of our Congresscritters is to have an investigation to find out which of them love America and which don't.

Liebermaned

mabelkitty: Mr. Anon: Makes sense. Her stances were far more in line with the democrats than republicans. This is probably for the best for her anyway. She would've been one of the very few sane republicans in congress. The crazy probably would've rubbed off on her.

Pray tell, who do you find "crazy" and who do you find "sane" in Nancy Pelosi's Congress?

Most democrats = sane

John Boehner/Republicans = insane.

The line is really quite simple.

Some examples. Claiming a pamphlet is a budget. Having Michelle Bachmann as a member of your party. Hating democrats so much that you would vote for rape over a democrat sponsored ammendment (see senate republicans).

What, specifically, has Nancy Pelosi done to deserve all the hate? I honestly don't know.

October: I'm not a Democrat
November: Vote Democrat

Aernis: She's bitter her party ditched her.

Rightly so? Perhaps.

Ditched her? They endorsed her.

Tingle007: October: I'm not a Democrat
November: Vote Democrat

I can't imagine why someone who had the party endorsement THEN has the party bigwigs come out and campagin against them would feel some sort of resentment.

Gosling: Don't worry, tea partiers, I'm sure it'll work out. After all, Cynthia was the tea partier and won $100,000.

WTF is up with that, anyway? Is Mickey-D's going political?

Hick: Aernis: She's bitter her party ditched her.

Rightly so? Perhaps.

Ditched her? They endorsed her.

And then ran a smear campaign against her. I'll vote republican when I feel the most important thing a candidate has to offer is creating and producing dishonest attack ads. Until then I'll vote anyone but republican.

Gosling: Don't worry, tea partiers, I'm sure it'll work out. After all, Cynthia was the tea partier and won $100,000.

Of topic, but WTF is that ad mean? And are the ad people at McDonalds so out of touch with politics that they don't know that people might take that as an endorsement of the Tea Party movement?

This is bad news... for Owens.

Mr. Anon: Hick: Aernis: She's bitter her party ditched her.

Rightly so? Perhaps.

Ditched her? They endorsed her.

And then ran a smear campaign against her. I'll vote republican when I feel the most important thing a candidate has to offer is creating and producing dishonest attack ads. Until then I'll vote anyone but republican.

I am not in NY so I don't know who ran the smear campaign. Was it the GOP or the other candidates?

Oh and the Dems would never run a smear campaign right?

Hick: Mr. Anon: Hick: Aernis: She's bitter her party ditched her.

Rightly so? Perhaps.

Ditched her? They endorsed her.

And then ran a smear campaign against her. I'll vote republican when I feel the most important thing a candidate has to offer is creating and producing dishonest attack ads. Until then I'll vote anyone but republican.

I am not in NY so I don't know who ran the smear campaign. Was it the GOP or the other candidates?

Oh and the Dems would never run a smear campaign right?

Dem smear campaigns aren't nearly as effective as Republicans'. But then when you're the party of Jesus/Family values it is in your nature to go deep into the mud and destroy someone's credentials simply because they aren't pure enough.

So the "Real America" Republicans have to send every notable name in their stable, including Presidential hopefuls Pawlenty and Palin to help shore up support for a candidate in an area that hasn't voted for a Democrat since the Civil War and I'm supposed to believe that 2010 is going to be a sweeping return to power for the GOP?

Scozzafava has the median voting record in the House; i.e., she is literally the most representative Representative in Congress. In fact, she is probably somewhat to the right of NY state as a whole.

And the GOP nutjobs call her a lefty.

See why you keep losing, 20%butthurters?

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PapermonkeyExpress: /A third party victory here is a victory for third party candidates everywhere.

Also, please explain how 'third party' this guy is when he's endorsed by the head of the RNC and every major Republican both elected and otherwise...many of which did so before she dropped out.

Had this election been during the regular cycle he would have run as a Republican in the Primaries and almost certainly would have won them as well. As it was, if Scozzafava had managed to win he'd have challenged her (again as a Republican) in the next Primaries.

This guy is about as much third party and 'Independent' as Sarah Palin. He simply wanted to get elected this year instead of waiting until the next election and this was the only way after Scozzafava got the nod.

Let this be another lesson to moderate Republicans thinking of running in next year's primaries. Find your inner whargarbal or suffer the consequences.

Tingle007: October: I'm not a Democrat
November: Vote Democrat

Actually its not hard to fathom if you understand the nature of this election. Its basically been about the tea party part of the GOP wanting to push out moderate candidates from their mists. A win for the "conservative" candidate, will just embolden them more. The thing is going hard right in a historically republican district is easy. They will see this as the first step in rebuilding their majority. However in reality the republican party needs to moderate it self, even marginally if it wants to make a comeback, and a win in NY-23 will do nothing for that. In reality it will make the the Tea Partiers feel vindicated.

Mr. Anon: Hick: Aernis: She's bitter her party ditched her.

Rightly so? Perhaps.

Ditched her? They endorsed her.

And then ran a smear campaign against her. I'll vote republican when I feel the most important thing a candidate has to offer is creating and producing dishonest attack ads. Until then I'll vote anyone but republican.

For whatever it's worth, the only attack ads on youtube I can find are from Democrats and some guy named Taxabilly. Many high-end republican politicians may have endorsed the Conservative such as Palin and Pawlenty(sp?) (as well as some no-name guy named Taxabilly who is probably officially unaffiliated with the party), however the party as a whole doesn't seem to be running any smear campaigns. If I'm wrong, point me in the right direction.

bronyaur1: And the GOP nutjobs call her a lefty Radical Lefty.

FTFY.

Not just a leftist, mind you, but a Radical one, at least according to Malkin. (new window)

/if Dede is a radical leftist, what does that make Kucinich?

She is a Democrat pretending to be a Republican. Of course she is going to endorse the Democrat.

Hick: Mr. Anon: Hick: Aernis: She's bitter her party ditched her.

Rightly so? Perhaps.


Oh and the Dems would never run a smear campaign right?

Let me introduce you to our friend, David Axelrod, his specialties are lobbying for energy companies and leaking stories to sycophantic media about opposing candidates sealed divorce records. He'd shake hands, but he's slinked in from the cold, dank ooze that he lives in and has, unfortunately, not yet developed appendages. Just hiss nicely and he'll consider that "hello."

So far this thread just proves the case further that to a Democrat their can be only one party.



/Hot like one party rule
//Repub's weren't that much better when it was their turn

OneBrightMonkey: So the "Real America" Republicans have to send every notable name in their stable, including Presidential hopefuls Pawlenty and Palin to help shore up support for a candidate in an area that hasn't voted for a Democrat since the Civil War and I'm supposed to believe that 2010 is going to be a sweeping return to power for the GOP?

Meh, there are no other national elections this year so why not?

SouthParkCon: So far this thread just proves the case further that to a Democrat their can be only one party.

You didn't have to throw your candidate under the bus. That was your choice.

badhatharry: She is a Democrat pretending to be a Republican. Of course she is going to endorse the Democrat.

You can have power or you can have ideological purity. Under most circumstances, you cannot have both

That_Dude: OneBrightMonkey: So the "Real America" Republicans have to send every notable name in their stable, including Presidential hopefuls Pawlenty and Palin to help shore up support for a candidate in an area that hasn't voted for a Democrat since the Civil War and I'm supposed to believe that 2010 is going to be a sweeping return to power for the GOP?

Meh, there are no other national elections this year so why not?

I'm legitimately concerned that the only options the American electorate has is a handful of principled Democrats, cloistered in a party awash in corporate donations vs. absolute lunatics.

jyoders19: Hick: Mr. Anon: Hick: Aernis: She's bitter her party ditched her.

Rightly so? Perhaps.


Oh and the Dems would never run a smear campaign right?

Let me introduce you to our friend, David Axelrod, his specialties are lobbying for energy companies and leaking stories to sycophantic media about opposing candidates sealed divorce records. He'd shake hands, but he's slinked in from the cold, dank ooze that he lives in and has, unfortunately, not yet developed appendages. Just hiss nicely and he'll consider that "hello."

I am curious to see if this is true or not. It would not suprise me, but I haven't heard anything about this. Do you have a news article that discusses this?

How often does the Watertown Daily Times endorse Democrats? I want to know how out of character this really is.

I'm just waiting for her inevitable turn to becoming a Democrat. If (and most likely when) Hoffman wins, I would expect Dede Scozzafava to run against him in the next election. This endorsement is simply laying the groundwork for that later race.

SouthParkCon: So far this thread just proves the case further that to a Democrat their can be only one party.

Funny how so many stupid attacks on Obama contain third-grade misspellings.

PapermonkeyExpress: /A third party victory here is a victory for third party candidates everywhere.

Wrong, a Hoffman victory in NY-23 is a victory for the Democrats. The reason for this is that this is showing that the National Republican party will only support strict orthodoxy from their candidates. As a result Republican candidates in "purple" districts will have the shadow of this campaign to get out from under. But at the same time, they will be unable to divorce themselves from the unpopular positions of the national republican party.

A national party cannot expect to ever regain the majority just by campaigning to 20% of the electorate.

There are much more important things happening than the failure that is NY politics.

OneBrightMonkey: That_Dude: OneBrightMonkey: So the "Real America" Republicans have to send every notable name in their stable, including Presidential hopefuls Pawlenty and Palin to help shore up support for a candidate in an area that hasn't voted for a Democrat since the Civil War and I'm supposed to believe that 2010 is going to be a sweeping return to power for the GOP?

Meh, there are no other national elections this year so why not?

I'm legitimately concerned that the only options the American electorate has is a handful of principled Democrats, cloistered in a party awash in corporate donations vs. absolute lunatics.

If the Republicans want short term power, they'll tone it down a bit. Also, if your main complaint is that politicians are all crazy idealists or corrupt, power-hungry bastards then I would like to welcome you to politics. Don't worry, you'll get used to it.

Code_Archeologist: Wrong, a Hoffman victory in NY-23 is a victory for the Democrats. The reason for this is that this is showing that the National Republican party will only support strict orthodoxy from their candidates. As a result Republican candidates in "purple" districts will have the shadow of this campaign to get out from under. But at the same time, they will be unable to divorce themselves from the unpopular positions of the national republican party.

Assuming Hoffman wins--which he ought to do--I'm curious what impact this will have on the Republican Primary in FL between Crist and the right wing nutjob they have there in the Senate race. Will the Whargarbal Republicans be so emboldened by this that they'll attempt to sabotage Crist as well? I'm sure Charlie's none too pleased by this turn of events in NY.

3_Butt_Cheeks: There are much more important things happening than the failure that is NY politics.

There are always more important things going on, but here we are discussing state politics and who will win one seat in a 435 person political body.