Um, Subby, seems to me that the Mexican government is welcoming American immigrants, without so much as a hassle for their troubles. Maybe because the Mexican government and people know deep down, that they need Americans to do certain jobs. You know, like run the fast food restaurants, own the landscaping companies, and operate the office buildings that need to be cleaned.
\Good for the Mexican government on taking the high road. Still doesn't excuse the fact that being here without documentation is still a crime.
Deadhouseplants:Um, Subby, seems to me that the Mexican government is welcoming American immigrants, without so much as a hassle for their troubles. Maybe because the Mexican government and people know deep down, that they need Americans to do certain jobs. You know, like run the fast food restaurants, own the landscaping companies, and operate the office buildings that need to be cleaned.
\Good for the Mexican government on taking the high road. Still doesn't excuse the fact that being here without documentation is still a crime.you have American dollars...bienvenidos!
I lived in Mexico for a year and part of it was illegal (accidentally - I trusted a Mexican citizen to get me into the country legally and he assumed the process that worked for him also worked for me). However, the government helped me work the issue out with little fuss since I could prove my entry date and point (still had the car receipt we received at the border crossing).
Living in Mexico was nice and the government was easy to work with.. but I think we're comparing apples to oranges. The Mexicans with money don't want to move to the US and the US citizens that can afford to live a good life in Mexico want to move there. Its a simple economics problem.
Who would you want to invite to your tupperware party.. someone who has money or someone who doesnt?
Illegal immigration can't be stopped. When you allow free flow of capital but not free flow of labor, this is what happens. You're pissing in the wind if you think the law will stop it. Better to welcome them into the legal economy and enjoy the tax revenue.
When they interview some central americans that are in Mexico illegally that report being treated just like the people who have legally immigrated, I will believe that mexico has a more kinder immigration policy. Until then I will remain a little skeptical.
Given how they've treated illegals from south, like from Guatemala... any other support for this claim of "Mexico 'opens it arms' to immigrants" claim.
Deadhouseplants:Still doesn't excuse the fact that being here without documentation is still a crime.
Generally not. In most cases, it is a purely civil matter handled by administrative adjudication.
stiletto_the_wise:Illegal immigration can't be stopped. When you allow free flow of capital but not free flow of labor, this is what happens. You're pissing in the wind if you think the law will stop it. Better to welcome them into the legal economy and enjoy the tax revenue.
Not one American shown in the (Al Jazeera!) story , by the way) is illegal. It says it's hard to know how many illegal Americans there are. I'm going to go out on a limb and say, virtually none. Why should there be, when Mexico is delighted to have them as tourists and residents who spend lots of money? The vast bulk of the illegals in Mexico are natives of other Central- and South-American countries. Up until relatively recently, the Mexican Army was shooting them attempting to cross at Mexico's Southern border.
Deadhouseplants:Um, Subby, seems to me that the Mexican government is welcoming American immigrants, without so much as a hassle for their troubles. Maybe because the Mexican government and people know deep down, that they need Americans to do certain jobs. You know, like run the fast food restaurants, own the landscaping companies, and operate the office buildings that need to be cleaned.
\Good for the Mexican government on taking the high road. Still doesn't excuse the fact that being here without documentation is still a crime.
The Mexican government is so corrupt it makes Washington look squeaky clean.
Mexicans have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable. Foreigners can serve in the military only during wartime.[3]
Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters.[4]The Mexican government may grant this right to foreigners if they agree before the Ministry of Foreign Affairs not to invoke the protection of their own governments in any matters relating to the property they wish to buy.
This video is total bs. Go ask all those illegals crossing the Mexican border from Guatemala how well they're treated. They're abused by the gangs, the police, and the federales. The only people that help the illegals are the locals who feed, house and provide them medical care.
The majority of the Americans who are in San Miguel de Allende are retirees with good incomes, not dirt poor, illiterates who are going to be feeding off Mexico's free social programs (not that there are any).
Deadhouseplants
2009-10-30 10:58:33 PM
\Good for the Mexican government on taking the high road. Still doesn't excuse the fact that being here without documentation is still a crime.
cksewell
2009-10-30 11:39:53 PM
Um, Subby, seems to me that the Mexican government is welcoming American immigrants, without so much as a hassle for their troubles. Maybe because the Mexican government and people know deep down, that they need Americans to do certain jobs. You know, like run the fast food restaurants, own the landscaping companies, and operate the office buildings that need to be cleaned.
you have American dollars...bienvenidos!\Good for the Mexican government on taking the high road. Still doesn't excuse the fact that being here without documentation is still a crime.
me texan
2009-10-30 11:47:30 PM
Living in Mexico was nice and the government was easy to work with.. but I think we're comparing apples to oranges. The Mexicans with money don't want to move to the US and the US citizens that can afford to live a good life in Mexico want to move there. Its a simple economics problem.
Who would you want to invite to your tupperware party.. someone who has money or someone who doesnt?
Tr0mBoNe
2009-10-31 12:12:26 AM
Tenebreux
2009-10-31 12:21:17 AM
gave up
2009-10-31 12:21:47 AM
veale728
2009-10-31 12:26:22 AM
stiletto_the_wise
2009-10-31 12:28:19 AM
torquestripe
2009-10-31 12:28:26 AM
Saiga410
2009-10-31 12:32:54 AM
MentalMoment
2009-10-31 12:35:52 AM
On Halloween
DFWPhotoGuy
2009-10-31 12:42:02 AM
We wear masks because we are here....ILLEGALLY!
doglover
2009-10-31 12:43:36 AM
First offense: illegal immigrants get a special RDIF chip in the back of the neck before being sent home.
Second offense: they are enslaved. They legally become animals and the property of the government for three years.
Third offense or violent criminal acts: American Gladiators 2: Foreigners With Swords.
BMulligan
2009-10-31 12:47:51 AM
Generally not. In most cases, it is a purely civil matter handled by administrative adjudication.
stiletto_the_wise: Illegal immigration can't be stopped. When you allow free flow of capital but not free flow of labor, this is what happens. You're pissing in the wind if you think the law will stop it. Better to welcome them into the legal economy and enjoy the tax revenue.
Exactly.
jjorsett
2009-10-31 12:49:31 AM
Jamrock
2009-10-31 12:54:52 AM
I know you might not think much of Al Jazeera.
But do you hear that? That is the sound of Al Jazeera pissing away some hard-earned credibility (with some people) with a fairly bullshiat story
Spontaneous Defenstration
2009-10-31 12:56:11 AM
RockIsDead
2009-10-31 12:59:21 AM
Oh, sorry, my PC moral equivalence shock implant seems to be on the fritz again.
Dr.Zom
2009-10-31 01:11:22 AM
AR55
2009-10-31 01:16:12 AM
Less than one percent of the US population. That isn't too bad.
Does seem odd that the Mexican government is a lot friendlier to the gringos up North than their Southern neighbors.
TedDalton
2009-10-31 01:18:07 AM
no citation needed
inglixthemad
2009-10-31 01:22:03 AM
\Good for the Mexican government on taking the high road. Still doesn't excuse the fact that being here without documentation is still a crime.
The Mexican government is so corrupt it makes Washington look squeaky clean.
moothemagiccow
2009-10-31 01:43:40 AM
Mexicans have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable. Foreigners can serve in the military only during wartime.[3]
Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters.[4]The Mexican government may grant this right to foreigners if they agree before the Ministry of Foreign Affairs not to invoke the protection of their own governments in any matters relating to the property they wish to buy.
MentalMoment
2009-10-31 01:46:02 AM
Oh, like you haven't been in worse places.
gtomako
2009-10-31 01:51:02 AM
The majority of the Americans who are in San Miguel de Allende are retirees with good incomes, not dirt poor, illiterates who are going to be feeding off Mexico's free social programs (not that there are any).