Not so big, especially when that company's profits dropped so much in the last year.
Shell laid off 500 senior management earlier this year, before they got around to cutting lower-level jobs. Their P/E is more than 14, which puts them in the "not bad, but not spectacular" level of company profits...
One more time, for you folks who see "billion" and immediately scream "greedy bastards" - three billion dollar profits for companies worth HUNDREDS of billions of dollars is not, by any stretch, greedy.
Labrat407:That should give them a whopping .05% increase in profit if each worker makes on average 25000.
The jobs are in middle management, so the total compensation (including health insurance, FICA, 401k matching, and whatever else) is at least 100k. The savings is at least half a billion.
hp6sa:$3.25B on about $75B in revenue, a margin of ~4.3%. THEY'RE EVIL I TELL YOU!
Profit margins do not mean shiat in this context. If I make a product that give me a profit of one cent per unit, but I sell 100 billion units per year, I'm not going to sit around and complain about how I only make a penny per unit profit.
AppleOptionEsc:/as I understand it, profit normally goes into a futures account for R&D or expansion
That's just what they want you to think! The money is really used to bribe congress find new and creative ways to let big oil grind their jack boots into the spines of the consumer class. Oh and to allow them to pollute the earth skies and oceans beyond any hope of repair.
Lando Lincoln:hp6sa: $3.25B on about $75B in revenue, a margin of ~4.3%. THEY'RE EVIL I TELL YOU!
Profit margins do not mean shiat in this context. If I make a product that give me a profit of one cent per unit, but I sell 100 billion units per year, I'm not going to sit around and complain about how I only make a penny per unit profit.
No, you'll likely raise the margin to 2 pennies per unit. Or go hollywood finance and get the government to bail you out.
Lando Lincoln:hp6sa: $3.25B on about $75B in revenue, a margin of ~4.3%. THEY'RE EVIL I TELL YOU!
Profit margins do not mean shiat in this context. If I make a product that give me a profit of one cent per unit, but I sell 100 billion units per year, I'm not going to sit around and complain about how I only make a penny per unit profit.
Well, you should, or you're a pretty piss-poor excuse for a publicly traded company. Unless you want the shareholders to run your ass out of the company, you better start thinking about your obligations to their investments.
Friskya:Well, you should, or you're a pretty piss-poor excuse for a publicly traded company. Unless you want the shareholders to run your ass out of the company, you better start thinking about your obligations to their investments.
I'm sorry, did I give you the impression I was a publicly traded company?
Job cuts should start from the top. Senior management failed to do their job, and stockholders lost. The "failing global economy" is just an excuse for poor leadership. Excuses are not permitted at the middle management level, and should not be permitted at the top.
Cagey B
2009-10-29 11:27:39 AM
SushiJoe
2009-10-29 11:32:16 AM
slayer199
2009-10-29 12:07:01 PM
Zentelis
2009-10-29 12:24:45 PM
Done in one
Diablo Snowblind
2009-10-29 12:26:56 PM
Petey4335
2009-10-29 12:28:15 PM
Arn't profits counted after salary?
Labrat407
2009-10-29 12:38:15 PM
Friskya
2009-10-29 12:45:29 PM
Drakin020
2009-10-29 12:48:20 PM
They could have grossed 500 billion, which in that case, 3 billion in profit wouldn't seem so big.
Ah what do you care subby, logic has no place here.
cirby
2009-10-29 12:54:29 PM
For a company with $200 billion in market cap?
Not so big, especially when that company's profits dropped so much in the last year.
Shell laid off 500 senior management earlier this year, before they got around to cutting lower-level jobs. Their P/E is more than 14, which puts them in the "not bad, but not spectacular" level of company profits...
One more time, for you folks who see "billion" and immediately scream "greedy bastards" - three billion dollar profits for companies worth HUNDREDS of billions of dollars is not, by any stretch, greedy.
JavanDane
2009-10-29 12:54:44 PM
They could have grossed 500 billion, which in that case, 3 billion in profit wouldn't seem so big.
Ah what do you care subby, logic has no place here.
Welcome to
FAILFARK.karmaceutical
2009-10-29 01:00:00 PM
GoldSpider
2009-10-29 01:06:13 PM
Algebrat
2009-10-29 01:21:57 PM
The jobs are in middle management, so the total compensation (including health insurance, FICA, 401k matching, and whatever else) is at least 100k. The savings is at least half a billion.
/Just sayin'
AppleOptionEsc
2009-10-29 01:22:17 PM
/as I understand it, profit normally goes into a futures account for R&D or expansion
Lando Lincoln
2009-10-29 01:34:48 PM
Corporations are evil.
hp6sa
2009-10-29 01:46:23 PM
They could have grossed 500 billion, which in that case, 3 billion in profit wouldn't seem so big.
Ah what do you care subby, logic has no place here.
Welcome to FAIL FARK.
$3.25B on about $75B in revenue, a margin of ~4.3%. THEY'RE EVIL I TELL YOU!
Lando Lincoln
2009-10-29 01:53:17 PM
Profit margins do not mean shiat in this context. If I make a product that give me a profit of one cent per unit, but I sell 100 billion units per year, I'm not going to sit around and complain about how I only make a penny per unit profit.
Tavernknight
2009-10-29 02:14:03 PM
That's just what they want you to think! The money is really used to bribe congress find new and creative ways to let big oil grind their jack boots into the spines of the consumer class. Oh and to allow them to pollute the earth skies and oceans beyond any hope of repair.
loonatic112358
2009-10-29 02:19:28 PM
and don't let dave go
oneodd1
2009-10-29 02:20:53 PM
Profit margins do not mean shiat in this context. If I make a product that give me a profit of one cent per unit, but I sell 100 billion units per year, I'm not going to sit around and complain about how I only make a penny per unit profit.
No, you'll likely raise the margin to 2 pennies per unit. Or go hollywood finance and get the government to bail you out.
Friskya
2009-10-29 02:23:25 PM
Profit margins do not mean shiat in this context. If I make a product that give me a profit of one cent per unit, but I sell 100 billion units per year, I'm not going to sit around and complain about how I only make a penny per unit profit.
Well, you should, or you're a pretty piss-poor excuse for a publicly traded company. Unless you want the shareholders to run your ass out of the company, you better start thinking about your obligations to their investments.
Lando Lincoln
2009-10-29 02:30:23 PM
I'm sorry, did I give you the impression I was a publicly traded company?
bugmn99
2009-10-29 02:34:10 PM
"They don't give a fark about you. THEY DON'T GIVE A FARK ABOUT YOU! At all. At all. At all."
/At all.
altom1
2009-10-29 02:53:59 PM