I often can't tell the difference between fast food and cardboard.

To be fair, new TVs aren't nearly as heavy as old ones.

The intruders took out their frustration by messing up a bed.

Holy shiat, these were some bad ass motherfarkers. I sure hope I never cross their path.

2chris2: The intruders took out their frustration by messing up a bed.

Holy shiat, these were some bad ass motherfarkers. I sure hope I never cross their path.

Security camera footage of perpetrators:

The intruders took out their frustration by messing up a bed.

If they'd broken into my house, I could have saved them that trouble.

What *is* the difference between plasma and LCD anyway? The displays look the same to me, what should I be looking for?

Kaymon: What *is* the difference between plasma and LCD anyway? The displays look the same to me, what should I be looking for?

It's a crapshoot. Two ways of getting the same effect. Go with price.

Kaymon: What *is* the difference between plasma and LCD anyway? The displays look the same to me, what should I be looking for?

In ultrashort format: Up to 42 inch, go with LCD, 42 and above, go with Plasma.

Kaymon: What *is* the difference between plasma and LCD anyway? The displays look the same to me, what should I be looking for?

Google it dude.

What's important is that people learn the difference between cardboard and corrugated. Cardboard is what cards are made from. Corrugated board is what boxes and the phony tv are made from.

LavenderWolf: Kaymon: What *is* the difference between plasma and LCD anyway? The displays look the same to me, what should I be looking for?

It's a crapshoot. Two ways of getting the same effect. Go with price.

Wrong wrong wrong wrong.

Plasma's typically have better contrast for their price range and have a true black. They also have glass fronts making them a lot more durable. While they are typically much heavier than your standard LCD, the overall picture quality is usually comparable to an LCD that is much higher in price.

If you go with the lowest price available on a flat screen TV, you will end up being disappointed - or you are blind.

So proud of my hometown

People can't tell the difference between LCD and plasma?

Christ. My vision is so poor I cannot drive; however, I can immediately tell the two apart.

/Plasmas are darker and shimmer like CRTs. If I am not mistaken this is because plasmas create light from stimulated phosphorus like CRTs do.

The image on a cardboard TV has a vastly better viewing angle range than either LCD or plasma. In fact, it blows them both away. That is what decided the issue for me.

Valkhorn: LavenderWolf: Kaymon: What *is* the difference between plasma and LCD anyway? The displays look the same to me, what should I be looking for?

It's a crapshoot. Two ways of getting the same effect. Go with price.

Wrong wrong wrong wrong.

Plasma's typically have better contrast for their price range and have a true black. They also have glass fronts making them a lot more durable. While they are typically much heavier than your standard LCD, the overall picture quality is usually comparable to an LCD that is much higher in price.

If you go with the lowest price available on a flat screen TV, you will end up being disappointed - or you are blind.

I got an LCD mainly because I move a lot and I was under the impression that they are more durable than plasma.

In fact you are the first person I've heard of saying plasma is more durable than LCD.

Love the asshats with HDTVs but don't have a HD set-top box. While the whole time they're thinking they're watching HD

Considering they left the 'tv' behind, I would say this is a misleading headline.

The intruders took out their frustration by messing up a bed.

My bed is really messed up as I type this, so I'm getting a kick.....

I don't know why, but I'm laughing so hard at that bed statement I think I'm going to pee myself. I just know when I go in to make my bed before going out, I'm going to fall down on my bed and lol some more.

/the stupidest things set me off on laughing fits


I enjoyed the informative discussion on plasma vs LCD. I have a real nice LCD monitor and I love it. Now if only I could find out how the fark to clean the darn thing. I swear I've found a least a hundred different methods on how to do it, each one negating the last, and I'm scared to do anything.

What does this really mean?:

"The intruders took out their frustration by messing up a bed."

drjekel_mrhyde: Love the asshats with HDTVs but don't have a HD set-top box. While the whole time they're thinking they're watching HD

For what it's worth, the HD channels that I do get usually only broadcast in the lower-end quality 720p. It's still a "newish" technology, and most of the shows you'll watch on regular broadcast or cable only look marginally better on the HD channels. Only shows that are filmed specifically for HD make it worth it, IMHO.

Luckily, though, Science channel, Discovery, and those types seem to have quite a few 1080p programs these days. In any case, I can understand someone having an HDTV without HD service if they watch enough DVD/Blu-Ray and/or game a lot on consoles and just want to save some on their monthly bills.

Mr. Breeze: Valkhorn: LavenderWolf: Kaymon: What *is* the difference between plasma and LCD anyway? The displays look the same to me, what should I be looking for?

It's a crapshoot. Two ways of getting the same effect. Go with price.

Wrong wrong wrong wrong.

Plasma's typically have better contrast for their price range and have a true black. They also have glass fronts making them a lot more durable. While they are typically much heavier than your standard LCD, the overall picture quality is usually comparable to an LCD that is much higher in price.

If you go with the lowest price available on a flat screen TV, you will end up being disappointed - or you are blind.

I got an LCD mainly because I move a lot and I was under the impression that they are more durable than plasma.

In fact you are the first person I've heard of saying plasma is more durable than LCD.

Here's how to tell. Go to your local Worst Buy and put your finger on the screen of an LCD. Press into it. Then do the same to a plasma. You won't be able to depress the screen at all.

With enough force any screen will break, but it's much more difficult to break/crack/destroy the screen of a plasma than it is an LCD.

Jamieboy: Now if only I could find out how the fark to clean the darn thing. I swear I've found a least a hundred different methods on how to do it, each one negating the last, and I'm scared to do anything.

A good dusting with a "screen shammy" or similar type lint-free cloth should be all you really need. I've used Windex on my laptop's glossy monitor a few times and haven't noticed any adverse affects. Depends on your LCD's surface, really... And it never hurts to check the owner's manual for any advice. Heck, maybe even go to a local BestBuy or whatever and ask what they use to clean their HDTVs/monitors.

Jamieboy: I enjoyed the informative discussion on plasma vs LCD. I have a real nice LCD monitor and I love it. Now if only I could find out how the fark to clean the darn thing. I swear I've found a least a hundred different methods on how to do it, each one negating the last, and I'm scared to do anything.

Get a kit specially designed for it. These usually consist of a microfiber cloth, a retractable dust brush, and specially formulated cleaner that won't damage the screen.

For glass CRTs Windex was the way to go. Now you have to get special fluid to clean everything. The good side is that a typical bottle of the stuff will last a very long time.

I miss riding my bike with a bag full of possibly blown TV tubes to Hook's drugstore and checking them out on the tube tester. It made a kid feel like a man.

Valkhorn: Here's how to tell. Go to your local Worst Buy and put your finger on the screen of an LCD. Press into it. Then do the same to a plasma. You won't be able to depress the screen at all.

With enough force any screen will break, but it's much more difficult to break/crack/destroy the screen of a plasma than it is an LCD.

I don't play tennis in my living room and I sure don't throw things at my TV... so your point is beyond pointless.

LCD are lighter (thinner, less heavy), have much less glare, the contrast are getting close to equivalent to plasma if you get a good set, it uses much less power.

And the fact is, from one TV to another, from brand to brand, there is a huge difference. A Plasma from brand X can end up looking terrible compared to an LCD from Brand Y, and versi versa .

Older plasma set were prone to burn-in while LCD isn't.

In the end, it comes down to taste.

Jamieboy: I enjoyed the informative discussion on plasma vs LCD. I have a real nice LCD monitor and I love it. Now if only I could find out how the fark to clean the darn thing. I swear I've found a least a hundred different methods on how to do it, each one negating the last, and I'm scared to do anything.

What do you use to clean the rest of the plastic based surfaces in your house? Whatever that is, that's what you should be using to clean the thing.

Oh and I gotta say watching HD stuff on a 120hz LCD is freakin surreal, it almost ruins movies because I keep getting pulled out of the illusion by how crisp everything is. I just can't quite explain it but to try; it makes everything seem like it was filmed with high-end gear but by amateurs.

Phlem Pickens: I miss riding my bike with a bag full of possibly blown TV tubes to Hook's drugstore and checking them out on the tube tester. It made a kid feel like a man.

word. we had store with one of those too.

What about computers?

Must be a Linux "box" (check the label)

Valkhorn: LavenderWolf: Kaymon: What *is* the difference between plasma and LCD anyway? The displays look the same to me, what should I be looking for?

It's a crapshoot. Two ways of getting the same effect. Go with price.

Wrong wrong wrong wrong.

Plasma's typically have better contrast for their price range and have a true black. They also have glass fronts making them a lot more durable. While they are typically much heavier than your standard LCD, the overall picture quality is usually comparable to an LCD that is much higher in price.

If you go with the lowest price available on a flat screen TV, you will end up being disappointed - or you are blind.

Not only are there a more than average number of gadget geeks on Fark...they will self-select into this thread...making what I'm about to say even dumber (in terms of inviting abuse), but....my first thought was: unless your job requires you to be able to see the pimple on a gnat's ass from space on your home television, you're probably spending too much time getting your entertainment from television if you regularly need picture quality vastly superior to "really good"

..but hey...to each his/her own...

Kaymon: What *is* the difference between plasma and LCD anyway? The displays look the same to me, what should I be looking for?


Here - this sums it up nicely... (new window) Asking which is better here on Fark is like asking what car manufacturer is best (when we all know it's BMW).

The intruders took out their frustration by messing up a bed.



Yeah, that'll teach 'em. That'll teach 'em GOOD.

ThirdGenerationImbecile: you're probably spending too much time getting your entertainment from television if you regularly need picture quality vastly superior to "really good"

It's all about having a home movie experience that's as close to a theater as you can get. It's not just TV, it's movies as well. Movies were made to be seen with a clear picture and a clear sound and the better the picture the more you get wrapped up in the illusion of it being real and not some recording.

imfallen_angel: I don't play tennis in my living room and I sure don't throw things at my TV... so your point is beyond pointless.

Then you don't have any kids or nieces or nephews. When you do and they're around big colorful TVs you'll wish you had some protection.

Thankfully they were run off before they got to the computer department.

ThirdGenerationImbecile: Not only are there a more than average number of gadget geeks on Fark...they will self-select into this thread...making what I'm about to say even dumber (in terms of inviting abuse), but....my first thought was: unless your job requires you to be able to see the pimple on a gnat's ass from space on your home television, you're probably spending too much time getting your entertainment from television if you regularly need picture quality vastly superior to "really good"

..but hey...to each his/her own...

I think it's just knowing that there is a TV with a better picture out there that makes people want it. Myself, I'm an iPod freak. I've had several. I started with the original 4g Mini, but I really wanted to get the 160 gig iPod Classic because of the hard drive space. Eventually could afford a used 30 gig and was sort of happy wit it, but again I wanted to be able to carry ALL my crap. I eventually got one and I am very happy with it. I'd like to get an iPod touch, but the hard drive space is way too small for me.

Valkhorn: ThirdGenerationImbecile: you're probably spending too much time getting your entertainment from television if you regularly need picture quality vastly superior to "really good"

It's all about having a home movie experience that's as close to a theater as you can get. It's not just TV, it's movies as well. Movies were made to be seen with a clear picture and a clear sound and the better the picture the more you get wrapped up in the illusion of it being real and not some recording.

...actually, I was including home movie watching experience in my blanket comment. I would still say the same, perhaps amended to "you're probably spending too much time getting your entertainment from in front of a screen, any screen...computers included"

Like I said...to each his own. I'm just glad I have friends similar to you when the big games are on!

Kaymon: What *is* the difference between plasma and LCD anyway? The displays look the same to me, what should I be looking for?

Just dont get a plasma is all i need to say. if you like screen burn, ghosting, and semi-HD, go with plasma. if you want full HD, and no screen burn and no ghosting, Get LCD!

Go with LCD. Hell if you can wait a few years get one of the new LED LCD TV's and you will be future-proofed until OLED takes over (still a while to go in that dept.)

I recently purchased this:
LG 47" LED LCD (new window)

It is SOOOOOOO much better than the 42" Samsung Plasma that I moved to the Bedroom.

It's bigger, more crisp, blacks and whites are more true, uses less power, is lighter, etc...Nothing about it is less than the Plasma.

StephenHawkingsVoicebox: I recently purchased this:
LG 47" LED LCD (new window)

It is SOOOOOOO much better than the 42" Samsung Plasma that I moved to the Bedroom.

It's bigger, more crisp, blacks and whites are more true, uses less power, is lighter, etc...Nothing about it is less than the Plasma.

So have you and Ms. Voicebox been traumatized by watching porn on it, yet?

/was told that there are certain things for which there is TOO MUCH picture clarity

The key difference between plasma, LCD, and LED is that plasma generates as much heat as a small space heater (not exaggerating), LCD generates about a half of that heat, and LED about a half of the LCD's heat.

Siskabush: Kaymon: What *is* the difference between plasma and LCD anyway? The displays look the same to me, what should I be looking for?

Just dont get a plasma is all i need to say. if you like screen burn, ghosting, and semi-HD, go with plasma. if you want full HD, and no screen burn and no ghosting, Get LCD!

Go with LCD. Hell if you can wait a few years get one of the new LED LCD TV's and you will be future-proofed until OLED takes over (still a while to go in that dept.)

what do you mean by semi-HD? I've been checking out plasmas and lcd and both come in 1080p. The risk of screen burn in is vastly reduced in newer models and ghosting is rare and easily remedied.

Refresh rate, contrast and the viewing angle is much better in plasmas. LCDs bleed light from either the sides or from the LEDs (the number of LEDs are fewer than the number of pixels, so pixels that are supposed to be black may still be lit by the LED), have poor viewing angles and generally cost more than plasmas. LCDs are much lighter than plasmas, use less electricity (I don't believe it is to the point were you would save money due to the greater cost of the LCD) and run cooler.

Both have good and bad points, but comparing new LCD models to old plasmas and declaring LCD the winner is disingenuous.

Personally, if I had to buy a new tv today I would probably go for the
Panasonic G10. It is a plasma that seems to be very good quality and at a good price point, $1500 for a 50 inch.

As it is I think I will wait it out for another year or so. Rumor is that next years models will support the latest in home 3D viewing, and the thought of HD porn just isn't terrifying enough to me, I need HD 3D porn.

73" DLP FTW

Just bought a Sony Bravia KDL 40-VDL160 and trying to figure the best settings for it. I tried one online suggestion that turned people into grey smudgy zombies, even in HD.

Anyone, perchance, have the ideal settings for this model?

imfallen_angel: Valkhorn: Here's how to tell. Go to your local Worst Buy and put your finger on the screen of an LCD. Press into it. Then do the same to a plasma. You won't be able to depress the screen at all.

With enough force any screen will break, but it's much more difficult to break/crack/destroy the screen of a plasma than it is an LCD.

I don't play tennis in my living room and I sure don't throw things at my TV... so your point is beyond pointless.

LCD are lighter (thinner, less heavy), have much less glare, the contrast are getting close to equivalent to plasma if you get a good set, it uses much less power.

And the fact is, from one TV to another, from brand to brand, there is a huge difference. A Plasma from brand X can end up looking terrible compared to an LCD from Brand Y, and versi versa .

Older plasma set were prone to burn-in while LCD isn't.

In the end, it comes down to taste.


Versi versa?

I love my Samsung 42" Plasma, but as etymxris said, they operate very, very hot. It will keep a room very warm. Great for rooms in basements though.

It's heavy as hell though, which sucks for moving and wall-mounting.

46" Sharp Aquos LCD on my living room wall and happy a year later.

Mario Kart is pretty awesome and Oasis channel.

Marshmallow Jones: 73" DLP FTW

Ew. I'll gladly trade a smaller screen for something I can mount on the wall and never having to deal with replacing lamps or air filters for the TV.

StephenHawkingsVoicebox: LG 47" LED LCD (new window)

I just got the:

LG 47SL80
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/lg-47sl80/4505-6482_7-33742438.html

It's fairly thin, the picture quality is incredible, and is only 1.8 inches thick.

The selling point for me was the fact that the front bezel looked sleek and the entire front has a plastic transparent panel which makes cleaning this thing a breeze.

Kaymon: What *is* the difference between plasma and LCD anyway? The displays look the same to me, what should I be looking for?

About a hundred pounds.

ThirdGenerationImbecile: StephenHawkingsVoicebox: I recently purchased this:
LG 47" LED LCD (new window)

It is SOOOOOOO much better than the 42" Samsung Plasma that I moved to the Bedroom.

It's bigger, more crisp, blacks and whites are more true, uses less power, is lighter, etc...Nothing about it is less than the Plasma.

So have you and Ms. Voicebox been traumatized by watching porn on it, yet?

/was told that there are certain things for which there is TOO MUCH picture clarity

Heh no BUT we were watching a show and both said at nearly the same moment, "You would think she would have shaved her armpits to go on live TV!"

You could see the individual stubbles...

Also there are some big difrernces between an LCD and an LED LCD. Normal LCD's are back lit with a standard light and are not THAT much lighter than a plasma of the same size. There are 2 different types of LED LCD's, One that is edge lit only as MOST of the LED ones are and the the FULL back light of LEDS which LG did first and Samsung now uses on their high end LED tv's.

My LG is 1 inch bigger then the samsung of the same quality level and almost $700 cheaper AND is full back lit rather than edge only.

PainInTheASP: Kaymon: What *is* the difference between plasma and LCD anyway? The displays look the same to me, what should I be looking for?

About a hundred pounds.

Err obviously it would be based on size BUT it would be about 20lbs on the 46"-47" range