Prosecutors say Daniel Weston and Mary Ann Parmelee hired two loan modification agents in hopes of keeping their home but believed the men took their money and did nothing.

hmm...well, first off a lot of those loan modification people ARE scammers. That said, if these two guys turn out to be actually BE scamming people, then the perps are gonna walk.

Weaver95: hmm...well, first off a lot of those loan modification people ARE scammers. That said, if these two guys turn out to be actually BE scamming people, then the perps are gonna walk.

I think the chances for jury nullification on this are pretty slim.
We're talking torture here... a DA can have a field day playing upon the sympathy of the jury for the heinous ordeal those two guys went through. Regardless of just what scumbag bottom-feeders they really are.

Besides, if they were frauds, there are civil courts to take such matters to.
Luring someone under false pretenses so you can kidnap, torture and rob them is taking things just a wee step to far.

rcain: Weaver95: hmm...well, first off a lot of those loan modification people ARE scammers. That said, if these two guys turn out to be actually BE scamming people, then the perps are gonna walk.

I think the chances for jury nullification on this are pretty slim.
We're talking torture here... a DA can have a field day playing upon the sympathy of the jury for the heinous ordeal those two guys went through. Regardless of just what scumbag bottom-feeders they really are.

Besides, if they were frauds, there are civil courts to take such matters to.
Luring someone under false pretenses so you can kidnap, torture and rob them is taking things just a wee step to far.

I don't think you've met some of the people who are plying this "trade." After a bit, you start fantasizing about strapping them to a metal table, car batteries and cables at hand...a bucket of water and a keg of beer.

Perhaps I have said too much.

wejash: I don't think you've met some of the people who are plying this "trade." After a bit, you start fantasizing about strapping them to a metal table, car batteries and cables at hand...a bucket of water and a keg of beer.

Perhaps I have said too much.

No, I hear ya. In fact I submitted an earlier and of course better headline:
5 charged with torturing home loan agents. Keep on living the dream

rcain: wejash: I don't think you've met some of the people who are plying this "trade." After a bit, you start fantasizing about strapping them to a metal table, car batteries and cables at hand...a bucket of water and a keg of beer.

Perhaps I have said too much.

No, I hear ya. In fact I submitted an earlier and of course better headline:
5 charged with torturing home loan agents. Keep on living the dream

Both headlines are equally meh.

rcain: wejash: I don't think you've met some of the people who are plying this "trade." After a bit, you start fantasizing about strapping them to a metal table, car batteries and cables at hand...a bucket of water and a keg of beer.

Perhaps I have said too much.

No, I hear ya. In fact I submitted an earlier and of course better headline:
5 charged with torturing home loan agents. Keep on living the dream

Payback. It's a biatch.

Desperate times call for torturous methods....

Pssssssst. Wanna know a secret?

Even if the guys are scammers you're not entitled to kidnapping, beating, and robbing them. Just a little fyi.

Weaver95: That said, if these two guys turn out to be actually BE scamming people, then the perps are gonna walk.


I really don't think alleged fraud allows you to legally kidnap and torture people.

Seriously, I am surprised there hasn't been more of this.

Then again, maybe it has, but the scammers haven't escaped/lived to tell the tale. There may be a lot of shallow graves in out of the way places in which these scum are taking a long dirt nap.

Pretty sure they just wanted to play a game.

Sasqualogist: Even if the guys are scammers you're not entitled to kidnapping, beating, and robbing them. Just a little fyi.

By whose rules, exactly?

I am suprised that this has not happened even more.

If you screw with the desparate or thick, you get to deal with the

consequences.

This will never go to trial.

And so it has begun.

Sasqualogist: Pssssssst. Wanna know a secret?

Even if the guys are scammers you're not entitled to kidnapping, beating, and robbing them. Just a little fyi.

Wrong. You forgot about the eighth ammendment? Maybe do a little research next time.

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Sasqualogist: Pssssssst. Wanna know a secret?

Even if the guys are scammers you're not entitled to kidnapping, beating, and robbing them. Just a little fyi.

Wrong. You forgot about the eighth ammendment? Maybe do a little research next time.

"Entitled" is such an ugly word to use when referring to matters of state. Can we please use "grabtastic" instead?

how interesting that blood can be a reminder and cleanser at the same time.

Aaaaand Loving Judas wins tonight's "Farker Most Likely To Have Tasted Human Flesh" Award.


Please collect your prize at the door after the show.

Sasqualogist: Pssssssst. Wanna know a secret?

Even if the guys are scammers you're not entitled to kidnapping, beating, and robbing them. Just a little fyi.

If they're scammers, i.e really criminals, the state would take them and lock them up (kidnapping), take all their possessions Robbery), and they would probably receive some beatings/assrape/or other stuff that you might call torture during their time in jail.

The people walking away from their mortgages are as much fraudsters as any fake loan modification guy. And for a larger amount of money. I'm sure everyone is looking forward to seeing them tortured.

Not Amused:

Wanted for questioning:

So that makes it official. Dealing with home loans, from any angle, is like pulling teeth.

Well, I don't agree with vigilante justice (except rarely) but I am not exactly crying a river over these guys.

ThrobblefootSpectre: The people walking away from their mortgages are as much fraudsters as any fake loan modification guy. And for a larger amount of money. I'm sure everyone is looking forward to seeing them tortured.

You know who I really want to see tortured? The farking abjectly poor. They have no idea how to run a corporation, and they should be killed for it.



Yeah, like that. But with less dignity.

ghare: Sasqualogist: Pssssssst. Wanna know a secret?

Even if the guys are scammers you're not entitled to kidnapping, beating, and robbing them. Just a little fyi.

If they're scammers, i.e really criminals, the state would take them and lock them up (kidnapping), take all their possessions Robbery), and they would probably receive some beatings/assrape/or other stuff that you might call torture during their time in jail.

Are you talking about the same article, or are you just really high?

ChimpZealot: Pretty sure they just wanted to play a game.

If you want this story to be extra creepy, watch Saw 6. This almost sounds like it could be a viral ad for it.

ghare:
If they're scammers, i.e really criminals, the state would take them and lock them up (kidnapping), take all their possessions Robbery), and they would probably receive some beatings/assrape/or other stuff that you might call torture during their time in jail.


For petty fraud? More like a fine, and restitution to the victim.

IT

HAS

BEGUN!

boobsrgood: You know who I really want to see tortured? The farking abjectly poor.

Yeah, there are several people on fark like you.

ThrobblefootSpectre: boobsrgood: You know who I really want to see tortured? The farking abjectly poor.

Yeah, there are several people on fark like you.

No way, there are very few people around here who are good at sarcasm.

nstoppiello: If you want this story to be extra creepy, watch Saw 6.

Saw 6: the apology?

nstoppiello: ChimpZealot: Pretty sure they just wanted to play a game.

If you want this story to be extra creepy, watch Saw 6. This almost sounds like it could be a viral ad for it.

Saw it on Friday, which led to my awesome post.

Oh poor babies, received enhanced interrogation techniques.

An attorney for Gonzalez and Parker says his clients are innocent and the loan modification agents were frauds.

How nice.

"I'm not saying it happened, but if it did, they had it coming."

ThrobblefootSpectre: Yeah, there are several people on fark like you.

Doubt that.

Loucifer: Cool Story Bro!

Nice image. Well done, saving that. I have a few.



He's pointing at this, btw.



There's no need to ask if that's too late.

if loanmodifier=scammer then torture=good otherwise torture=bad;

I wouldn't convict if there was prison time on the table, only if mandatory psychiatric treatment was the only punishment

Hollis the Utile: Not Amused:

Wanted for questioning:

ghare: Sasqualogist: Pssssssst. Wanna know a secret?

Even if the guys are scammers you're not entitled to kidnapping, beating, and robbing them. Just a little fyi.

If they're scammers, i.e really criminals, the state would take them and lock them up (kidnapping), take all their possessions Robbery), and they would probably receive some beatings/assrape/or other stuff that you might call torture during their time in jail.

You are very bad at words and their meanings. :(

ghare:
If they're scammers, i.e really criminals, the state would take them and lock them up (kidnapping), take all their possessions Robbery), and they would probably receive some beatings/assrape/or other stuff that you might call torture during their time in jail.

Spoken like a true communist.


/sit back, enjoy the fire.

ChimpZealot: Pretty sure they just wanted to play a game.

Win.

GreatBunzinni: Spoken like a true communist.


/sit back, enjoy the fire.



Shut up and smoke that.

Pfft, why are they being charged with a crime? This kind of do-it-yourself, bootstrappy justice is just part of the self-reliant, entrepreneurial spirit that made America great!

On trial? They should be in a parade!

They could have cut out the middleman and tortured Barney Frank.

/but he might like it.

This is bad news... for Obama.

rcain: I think the chances for jury nullification on this are pretty slim.
We're talking torture here...

I do not think that word means what the criminal code thinks it means.

Approves

ThrobblefootSpectre: Weaver95: That said, if these two guys turn out to be actually BE scamming people, then the perps are gonna walk.


I really don't think alleged fraud allows you to legally kidnap and torture people.

Why not, alleged WMD does.

As long as we live in a society where one segment has to lose their homes while another gets wealthy, all in the service of the almighty economy, I have no sympathy for the victims.

/Now that's spoken like a true communist!