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In the eight hours since Wilson's outburst, his Democratic opponent, former-Marine Rob Miller, has received nearly 3,000 individual grassroots contributions raising approximately $100,000 (boston.com) |  |
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2009-09-10 10:08:33 AM |
Wilson appeared to consult his Blackberry for much of the rest of Obama's speech. He shook his head defiantly after several of the president's statements. When Obama finished, Wilson bolted from the chamber.
What. A. Douche.
What. A. Douche.
| Democratic Secularist Omnivore | 2009-09-10 10:10:01 AM |
I'll contribute.
| MonkeyVegetables
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2009-09-10 10:10:55 AM |
that makes the average donation 33$
| Diogenes
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2009-09-10 10:15:16 AM |
Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
| whistleridge
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2009-09-10 10:16:12 AM |
what_now: Wilson appeared to consult his Blackberry for much of the rest of Obama's speech. He shook his head defiantly after several of the president's statements. When Obama finished, Wilson bolted from the chamber.
What. A. Douche.
Actually, if I had been there, I probably would have been playing a DS or something...I'm there to listen not watch. Who gives a shiat what I'm looking at, as long as I can clearly explain what I heard later?
/still...respect the office, even if you despise the man
What. A. Douche.
Actually, if I had been there, I probably would have been playing a DS or something...I'm there to listen not watch. Who gives a shiat what I'm looking at, as long as I can clearly explain what I heard later?
/still...respect the office, even if you despise the man
| I Said
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2009-09-10 10:16:44 AM |
| I Said
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2009-09-10 10:18:11 AM |
whistleridge: Actually, if I had been there, I probably would have been playing a DS or something...I'm there to listen not watch. Who gives a shiat what I'm looking at, as long as I can clearly explain what I heard later?
/still...respect the office, even if you despise the man
Then don't go. The fact is you know ahead of time that the speech, and the audience, will be broadcast to the world. There is no need to embarrass the office, the House itself, your constituents, or yourself.
/still...respect the office, even if you despise the man
Then don't go. The fact is you know ahead of time that the speech, and the audience, will be broadcast to the world. There is no need to embarrass the office, the House itself, your constituents, or yourself.
| MonkeyVegetables
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2009-09-10 10:18:26 AM |
whistleridge: Actually, if I had been there, I probably would have been playing a DS or something...I'm there to listen not watch. Who gives a shiat what I'm looking at, as long as I can clearly explain what I heard later?
FFS a member of congress apparently cant act professional for 45 minutes
/amateur hour
FFS a member of congress apparently cant act professional for 45 minutes
/amateur hour
| ne2d
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2009-09-10 10:18:46 AM |
Diogenes: Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
Is it? It seems that something like this might resonate with the "base."
Is it? It seems that something like this might resonate with the "base."
| I Said
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2009-09-10 10:20:02 AM |
Joe Wilson was heroically voicing his opposition on the principles on this bill.
It's not as though he's some Healthcare hack (new window)
It's not as though he's some Healthcare hack (new window)
| what_now
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2009-09-10 10:27:55 AM |
whistleridge: Actually, if I had been there, I probably would have been playing a DS or something...I'm there to listen not watch. Who gives a shiat what I'm looking at, as long as I can clearly explain what I heard later?
Because it's about farking respecting the person talking to you. It's something most people learn in grade school- when someone is giving a speech, you pay attention, or at least pretend to. You do NOT "play a DS or something".
Look, if I had been invited to a speech George W. Bush was making, I would have made a decision: 1) do not go and protest/picket outside, or 2) go and keep my thoughts to myself.
Because it's about farking respecting the person talking to you. It's something most people learn in grade school- when someone is giving a speech, you pay attention, or at least pretend to. You do NOT "play a DS or something".
Look, if I had been invited to a speech George W. Bush was making, I would have made a decision: 1) do not go and protest/picket outside, or 2) go and keep my thoughts to myself.
| DrySocket
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2009-09-10 10:29:58 AM |
Remember, congress is exactly like your average place of work, you may hate the fat bearded guy in the cubicle next to yours because he smells and wont stop talking about Star Trek, but you still have to work with him and some collegiality is expected.
Wilson may find himself having trouble finding positive reception to any bills, earmarks, etc he subsequently submits.
Wilson may find himself having trouble finding positive reception to any bills, earmarks, etc he subsequently submits.
| Diogenes
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2009-09-10 10:29:58 AM |
ne2d: Diogenes: Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
Is it? It seems that something like this might resonate with the "base."
Lies, arrogance, infidelity, and childishness resonates with your "base"? If that's the case, you can have 'em.
Is it? It seems that something like this might resonate with the "base."
Lies, arrogance, infidelity, and childishness resonates with your "base"? If that's the case, you can have 'em.
| whistleridge
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2009-09-10 10:35:55 AM |
I Said: whistleridge: Actually, if I had been there, I probably would have been playing a DS or something...I'm there to listen not watch. Who gives a shiat what I'm looking at, as long as I can clearly explain what I heard later?
/still...respect the office, even if you despise the man
Then don't go. The fact is you know ahead of time that the speech, and the audience, will be broadcast to the world. There is no need to embarrass the office, the House itself, your constituents, or yourself.
...aaaaand THIS is why I always got thrown out of church as a kind, my girlfriend hates going to concerts with me, and I will most likely never be a member of the United States Congress.
/still...respect the office, even if you despise the man
Then don't go. The fact is you know ahead of time that the speech, and the audience, will be broadcast to the world. There is no need to embarrass the office, the House itself, your constituents, or yourself.
...aaaaand THIS is why I always got thrown out of church as a kind, my girlfriend hates going to concerts with me, and I will most likely never be a member of the United States Congress.
| timmy_the_tooth
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2009-09-10 10:36:28 AM |
whistleridge: what_now: Wilson appeared to consult his Blackberry for much of the rest of Obama's speech. He shook his head defiantly after several of the president's statements. When Obama finished, Wilson bolted from the chamber.
What. A. Douche.
Actually, if I had been there, I probably would have been playing a DS or something...I'm there to listen not watch. Who gives a shiat what I'm looking at, as long as I can clearly explain what I heard later?
/still...respect the office, even if you despise the man
Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present to you the Right Honorable Senator from the 2nd district of Douchenozzle.
What. A. Douche.
Actually, if I had been there, I probably would have been playing a DS or something...I'm there to listen not watch. Who gives a shiat what I'm looking at, as long as I can clearly explain what I heard later?
/still...respect the office, even if you despise the man
Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present to you the Right Honorable Senator from the 2nd district of Douchenozzle.
| ne2d
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2009-09-10 10:38:11 AM |
Diogenes: ne2d: Diogenes: Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
Is it? It seems that something like this might resonate with the "base."
Lies, arrogance, infidelity, and childishness resonates with your "base"? If that's the case, you can have 'em.
I'm not a Republican; it's not my base. I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of his voters agreed with this.
Is it? It seems that something like this might resonate with the "base."
Lies, arrogance, infidelity, and childishness resonates with your "base"? If that's the case, you can have 'em.
I'm not a Republican; it's not my base. I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of his voters agreed with this.
| I Said
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2009-09-10 10:38:15 AM |
whistleridge: ...aaaaand THIS is why I always got thrown out of church as a kind, my girlfriend hates going to concerts with me, and I will most likely never be a member of the United States Congress.
But then why do you go to those things? Are you forced to?
If you choose to go, or you're going for your job, then you should act accordingly.
If your gf drags you to see the Backstreet Boys Reunion Tour then I don't blame you for tuning out.
But then why do you go to those things? Are you forced to?
If you choose to go, or you're going for your job, then you should act accordingly.
If your gf drags you to see the Backstreet Boys Reunion Tour then I don't blame you for tuning out.
| what_now
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2009-09-10 10:39:31 AM |
ne2d: I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of his voters agreed with this.
Agreed with what? The utter and total fallacy that illegal immigrants will get access to the public option, or the ill breeding required to interrupt someone's speech?
Agreed with what? The utter and total fallacy that illegal immigrants will get access to the public option, or the ill breeding required to interrupt someone's speech?
| Diogenes
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2009-09-10 10:40:03 AM |
ne2d: I'm not a Republican; it's not my base. I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of his voters agreed with this.
Undoubtedly. But ideally that's what the fringes are for.
Undoubtedly. But ideally that's what the fringes are for.
| timmy_the_tooth
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2009-09-10 10:44:03 AM |
what_now: Agreed with what? The utter and total fallacy that illegal immigrants will get access to the public option, or the ill breeding required to interrupt someone's speech?
Don't they still believe we found WMD?
Don't they still believe we found WMD?
| I Said
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2009-09-10 10:45:11 AM |
what_now: Agreed with what? The utter and total fallacy that illegal immigrants will get access to the public option, or the ill breeding required to interrupt someone's speech?
Free republic is having a little fund raising drive for Wilson and there are threads full of people fellating this "hero"
Free republic is having a little fund raising drive for Wilson and there are threads full of people fellating this "hero"
| Eddie Adams from Torrance
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2009-09-10 10:46:37 AM |
whistleridge: Actually, if I had been there, I probably would have been playing a DS or something
That's why, as a general rule, we don't elect 12 year old's to Congress.
That's why, as a general rule, we don't elect 12 year old's to Congress.
| timmy_the_tooth
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2009-09-10 10:53:15 AM |
Eddie Adams from Torrance: That's why, as a general rule, we don't elect 12 year old's to Congress.
Our forefathers had the foresight to write it right into the constitution.
Our forefathers had the foresight to write it right into the constitution.
| Stay Cool Babylon | 2009-09-10 11:02:17 AM |
Diogenes: Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
Not really. I went to school in South Carolina (it all makes sense now, doesn't it?!), and the GOP simply cannot fail there. Aside from the kids and maybe some faculty at a pretty major university + some progressives in Charleston and other beach towns, South Carolina is an echo chamber for GOP cliches. It's not quite the dumbest or most regressive state in the union, but it's up there.
Then again, I'm a Louisianian, so it's not as though I have room to brag. At least our politics are batshiat wild, though. Watching an election in SC is just a bunch of this
Not really. I went to school in South Carolina (it all makes sense now, doesn't it?!), and the GOP simply cannot fail there. Aside from the kids and maybe some faculty at a pretty major university + some progressives in Charleston and other beach towns, South Carolina is an echo chamber for GOP cliches. It's not quite the dumbest or most regressive state in the union, but it's up there.
Then again, I'm a Louisianian, so it's not as though I have room to brag. At least our politics are batshiat wild, though. Watching an election in SC is just a bunch of this
| El Chode
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2009-09-10 11:05:30 AM |
| what_now
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2009-09-10 11:05:34 AM |
I Said: Free republic is having a little fund raising drive for Wilson and there are threads full of people fellating this "hero"
HE ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR HIS ACTIONS!!
How the HELL can they be so "proud" of him, when he's not proud of his own actions?????
HE ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR HIS ACTIONS!!
How the HELL can they be so "proud" of him, when he's not proud of his own actions?????
| palladiate
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2009-09-10 11:12:19 AM |
what_now: I Said: Free republic is having a little fund raising drive for Wilson and there are threads full of people fellating this "hero"
HE ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR HIS ACTIONS!!
How the HELL can they be so "proud" of him, when he's not proud of his own actions?????
They know he's just been forced to do so by those Nazi Liberals and their PC Gestapo. They all just TOTALLY know he'd stand up to them if he could.
HE ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR HIS ACTIONS!!
How the HELL can they be so "proud" of him, when he's not proud of his own actions?????
They know he's just been forced to do so by those Nazi Liberals and their PC Gestapo. They all just TOTALLY know he'd stand up to them if he could.
| timmy_the_tooth
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2009-09-10 11:12:45 AM |
Obama should have gone George Carlin (new window) (NSFW) on his ass.
| tallguywithglasseson
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2009-09-10 11:18:12 AM |
And how much has Wilson raised from Obama haters? I figured they'd be making him into their hero by now. Wilson/Bachmann '12!
| BKITU
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2009-09-10 11:21:03 AM |
El Chode: www.elchode.com
AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!
/At least, that's my internal dialogue.
//Don't want to get reprimanded/fired.
AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!
/At least, that's my internal dialogue.
//Don't want to get reprimanded/fired.
| UNC_Samurai
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2009-09-10 11:22:30 AM |
I'm glad to see Miller's war chest expanding, but remember: Bachmann's opponent Tinklenburg had a fund-raising field day right after her October appearance on hardball, and the functional retards of Minnesota's 6th still reelected her.
| Code_Archeologist
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2009-09-10 11:23:49 AM |
tallguywithglasseson: And how much has Wilson raised from Obama haters? I figured they'd be making him into their hero by now. Wilson/Bachmann '12!
They are trying to... but without much success. The Republicans do not have the quick response grassroots fund raising infrastructure that the Democrats have.
They are trying to... but without much success. The Republicans do not have the quick response grassroots fund raising infrastructure that the Democrats have.
| whistleridge
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2009-09-10 11:26:10 AM |
I Said: whistleridge: ...aaaaand THIS is why I always got thrown out of church as a kind, my girlfriend hates going to concerts with me, and I will most likely never be a member of the United States Congress.
But then why do you go to those things? Are you forced to?
If you choose to go, or you're going for your job, then you should act accordingly.
If your gf drags you to see the Backstreet Boys Reunion Tour then I don't blame you for tuning out.
Yes, I'm forced to.
The point I was trying to (badly...too early, no coffee, etc) make is that...so was he. Congress has become so divided that there's simply no professionalism or adult standard of behavior across party lines anymore.
If you're going to go, do so in manner that is respectful to the instution, the office and the nation. Or you may was well be a kid playing DS and texting on your cell phone.
But then why do you go to those things? Are you forced to?
If you choose to go, or you're going for your job, then you should act accordingly.
If your gf drags you to see the Backstreet Boys Reunion Tour then I don't blame you for tuning out.
Yes, I'm forced to.
The point I was trying to (badly...too early, no coffee, etc) make is that...so was he. Congress has become so divided that there's simply no professionalism or adult standard of behavior across party lines anymore.
If you're going to go, do so in manner that is respectful to the instution, the office and the nation. Or you may was well be a kid playing DS and texting on your cell phone.
| Gulper Eel
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2009-09-10 11:26:54 AM |
Diogenes: Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
| Gulper Eel
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2009-09-10 11:30:31 AM |
whistleridge: Congress has become so divided that there's simply no professionalism or adult standard of behavior across party lines anymore.
No, it's only that the veneer has been ripped away. Back in the day they'd simply show up drunk.
No, it's only that the veneer has been ripped away. Back in the day they'd simply show up drunk.
| Howie Spankowitz
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2009-09-10 11:31:44 AM |
DrySocket: Remember, congress is exactly like your average place of work, you may hate the fat bearded guy in the cubicle next to yours because he smells and wont stop talking about Star TrekFarker in the cubicle next to you, but you still have to work with him and some collegiality is expected.
Wilson may find himself having trouble finding positive reception to any bills, earmarks, etc he subsequently submits.
Economy of language.
Wilson may find himself having trouble finding positive reception to any bills, earmarks, etc he subsequently submits.
Economy of language.
| whistleridge
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2009-09-10 11:37:22 AM |
Gulper Eel: Diogenes: Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
Actually, that one looks downright rational compared to some:
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
Actually, that one looks downright rational compared to some:
| Diogenes
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2009-09-10 11:40:58 AM |
whistleridge: Gulper Eel: Diogenes: Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
Actually, that one looks downright rational compared to some:
The coastal ones I can almost understand. The others look like a topologist's nightmare.
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
Actually, that one looks downright rational compared to some:
The coastal ones I can almost understand. The others look like a topologist's nightmare.
| TwoHead
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2009-09-10 11:42:13 AM |
That CA district actually makes sense if you know the geography of the area. Mountains separate the shore from the inland agricultural valley there. Two totally different areas in terms of representation needs.
| alywa
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2009-09-10 11:46:04 AM |
| Diogenes
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2009-09-10 11:47:05 AM |
Oooo! Ooooo! Wilson's making his first public statement now.
I'm getting a nice breeze from the backpeddling.
I'm getting a nice breeze from the backpeddling.
| sweetmelissa31
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2009-09-10 12:03:00 PM |
House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., told ABC on Wednesday: "Obviously, the President of the United States is always welcome on Capitol Hill. He deserves respect and decorum.
So... when is Cantor going to apologize for texting? That's certainly not respectful behavior.
So... when is Cantor going to apologize for texting? That's certainly not respectful behavior.
Action Replay Nick
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2009-09-10 12:04:15 PM |
Make that $200,000. Some admin should do strikethroughs in the headline to keep up with the total.
| Doctor Funkenstein
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2009-09-10 12:12:56 PM |
I kind of thought Biden was going to jump down to the floor and open up a couple cans of whoop ass when it happened, which would have been 37 different flavors of awesome. I can totally see him just reaching into his pocket and pulling out a toothbrush with then end carved into a shank. Just licking it and grumbling "I'll be waiting for you in the parking lot."
| Doctor Funkenstein
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2009-09-10 12:20:57 PM |
From dumbass' website :
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Please come back shortly.
The lulz is strong here.
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Please come back shortly.
The lulz is strong here.
| Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
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2009-09-10 12:22:05 PM |
Action Replay Nick: Make that $200,000. Some admin should do strikethroughs in the headline to keep up with the total.
Agreed. That would be awesome.
Agreed. That would be awesome.
| I Said
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2009-09-10 12:23:23 PM |
230k for Miller?
Nice work Wilson, you dickhead.
Nice work Wilson, you dickhead.
| damageddude
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2009-09-10 12:24:29 PM |
DrySocket: the fat bearded guy in the cubicle next to yours because he smells and wont stop talking about Star Trek
I'm not fat, I'm big boned! And I was reading the President's speech on my Blackberry as he was talking.
/live long and prosper
I'm not fat, I'm big boned! And I was reading the President's speech on my Blackberry as he was talking.
/live long and prosper
| what_now
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2009-09-10 12:31:11 PM |
Joe Wilson has $211,604 in cash on hand.
In the past 16 hours, Rob Miller has RAISED $240,320
This could actually get interesting.
In the past 16 hours, Rob Miller has RAISED $240,320
This could actually get interesting.
| Hollywood Cole
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2009-09-10 12:43:04 PM |
Wow when Action Replay Nick posted "Hundred thousand dollar" tantrum this morning he was at @ 104K. Amazing.
| abb3w
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2009-09-10 12:45:44 PM |
Action Replay Nick: Make that $200,000. Some admin should do strikethroughs in the headline to keep up with the total.
For those who want to make any such admin attempt difficult:
Donation Link
what_now: In the past 16 hours, Rob Miller has RAISED $240,320
Anyone happen to know how much he had raised before Wilson's interruption?
For those who want to make any such admin attempt difficult:
what_now: In the past 16 hours, Rob Miller has RAISED $240,320
Anyone happen to know how much he had raised before Wilson's interruption?
| House of Tards
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2009-09-10 12:46:25 PM |
what_now: Joe Wilson has $211,604 in cash on hand.
In the past 16 hours, Rob Miller has RAISED $240,320
This could actually get interesting.
since your post, he's pulling in almost $1000 a minute. He's up to $251,212. Holy crap!
In the past 16 hours, Rob Miller has RAISED $240,320
This could actually get interesting.
since your post, he's pulling in almost $1000 a minute. He's up to $251,212. Holy crap!
| susansto-helit
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2009-09-10 12:47:06 PM |
$256,501.
| Cyberluddite
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2009-09-10 12:50:21 PM |
Why is it that the Republicans keep getting embarassed by guys named Joe Wilson?
/both links as hot as the first Joe Wilson's wife
/both links as hot as the first Joe Wilson's wife
| Hollywood Cole
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2009-09-10 12:52:12 PM |
$$260,819
| No YOU'RE a Towel
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2009-09-10 12:52:18 PM |
Cyberluddite: Why is it that the Republicans keep getting embarassed by guys named Joe Wilson?
/both links as hot as the first Joe Wilson's wife
Hell, they just seem to have problems with guys named "Joe W."
/both links as hot as the first Joe Wilson's wife
Hell, they just seem to have problems with guys named "Joe W."
| Action Replay Nick
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2009-09-10 12:53:24 PM |
abb3w: Anyone happen to know how much he had raised before Wilson's interruption?
I'm pretty sure it was well under $10k when I first saw the link posted last night after the speech.
I'm pretty sure it was well under $10k when I first saw the link posted last night after the speech.
| Hollywood Cole
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2009-09-10 12:56:01 PM |
This is too awesome to be just under the politics tab. This should be MAIN PAGE biatches.
| Action Replay Nick
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2009-09-10 01:04:04 PM |
Christ by the time it goes green he might even be up to $300k.
I have a feeling Wilson is probably kicking himself in the ass pretty hard.
I have a feeling Wilson is probably kicking himself in the ass pretty hard.
| Hollywood Cole
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2009-09-10 01:10:15 PM |
Action Replay Nick: Christ by the time it goes green he might even be up to $300k.
I have a feeling Wilson is probably kicking himself in the ass pretty hard.
I wonder if while the words were still coming out of his mouth, he had a moment of clarity in the back of his mind where he thought to himself, "WTF am I doing? This will probably not end well."
I have a feeling Wilson is probably kicking himself in the ass pretty hard.
I wonder if while the words were still coming out of his mouth, he had a moment of clarity in the back of his mind where he thought to himself, "WTF am I doing? This will probably not end well."
| Hollywood Cole
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2009-09-10 01:13:49 PM |
| Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
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2009-09-10 01:15:36 PM |
The mods really need to reinstate the strike text function in headlines. It's perfect for ones like this.
Why the hell was it done away with anyway?
Why the hell was it done away with anyway?
| tallguywithglasseson
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2009-09-10 01:24:15 PM |
I predict a repeat of El Tinklenberg.
I wouldn't advise spending your money this way, unless you want to spend it as a symbolic gesture.
I wouldn't advise spending your money this way, unless you want to spend it as a symbolic gesture.
| I Said
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2009-09-10 01:27:03 PM |
tallguywithglasseson: I predict a repeat of El Tinklenberg.
I wouldn't advise spending your money this way, unless you want to spend it as a symbolic gesture.
From Wiki: Bachmann won 46.41% to 43.43%.[64] Because Tinklenberg was running as a DFLer in the Democratic primary this allowed candidate Bob Anderson to run in the Independence party primary unopposed despite not having the Independence endorsement. Anderson received 10% of the vote.
I really think it's worth it and Bachmann barely won last time.
I wouldn't advise spending your money this way, unless you want to spend it as a symbolic gesture.
From Wiki: Bachmann won 46.41% to 43.43%.[64] Because Tinklenberg was running as a DFLer in the Democratic primary this allowed candidate Bob Anderson to run in the Independence party primary unopposed despite not having the Independence endorsement. Anderson received 10% of the vote.
I really think it's worth it and Bachmann barely won last time.
| Hollywood Cole
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2009-09-10 01:28:22 PM |
tallguywithglasseson: I wouldn't advise spending your money this way, unless you want to spend it as a symbolic gesture.
True. But if you aren't a constituent in their district then all you can give is a symbolic gesture anyway.
True. But if you aren't a constituent in their district then all you can give is a symbolic gesture anyway.
| Action Replay Nick
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2009-09-10 01:35:25 PM |
$300,000.
Hi-f*cking-larious.
Hi-f*cking-larious.
| abb3w
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2009-09-10 01:36:16 PM |
Action Replay Nick: Christ by the time it goes green he might even be up to $300k.
Missed it by $2623, even including what he had to start before Wilson opened his big fat mouth. Doubtless that will be corrected momentarily....
Missed it by $2623, even including what he had to start before Wilson opened his big fat mouth. Doubtless that will be corrected momentarily....
| aden_nak
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2009-09-10 01:36:30 PM |
MonkeyVegetables: that makes the average donation 33$
It's probably just bad reporting or bad math on their part. But if that were true? I'd applaud. Small donations from lots of voters is better than large donations from just a few voters. People who donate, even a small amount, are much more likely to become involved in the election and actually wind up voting.
It's probably just bad reporting or bad math on their part. But if that were true? I'd applaud. Small donations from lots of voters is better than large donations from just a few voters. People who donate, even a small amount, are much more likely to become involved in the election and actually wind up voting.
| I Said
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2009-09-10 01:36:32 PM |
Action Replay Nick: $300,000.
Hi-f*cking-larious.
These are all small donors and the election is pretty far away. I fully expect to see another big push for him as it gets closer.
Hi-f*cking-larious.
These are all small donors and the election is pretty far away. I fully expect to see another big push for him as it gets closer.
| abb3w
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2009-09-10 01:38:03 PM |
"I have how much money now?"
| Jpud73 | 2009-09-10 01:38:31 PM |
Diogenes:
Lies, arrogance, infidelity, and childishness resonates with your "base"? If that's the case, you can have 'em.
Not only does it resonate with the base....those are the tenets of the republican party.
Lies, arrogance, infidelity, and childishness resonates with your "base"? If that's the case, you can have 'em.
Not only does it resonate with the base....those are the tenets of the republican party.
| RockIsDead | 2009-09-10 01:38:52 PM |
Typical Dem REACTIONARIES.
ACTION, not so much.
ACTION, not so much.
| lordaction | 2009-09-10 01:40:10 PM |
So, because democrats pay money that makes what the congressman said untrue?
Obama is a muslim communist. Here is $50.
Obama is a muslim communist. Here is $50.
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2009-09-10 01:41:12 PM |
lordaction: So, because democrats pay money that makes what the congressman said untrue?
Obama is a muslim communist. Here is $50.
It's not THAT you missed the point which surprises me. It's how much you missed it by.
Obama is a muslim communist. Here is $50.
It's not THAT you missed the point which surprises me. It's how much you missed it by.
| jyoders19 | 2009-09-10 01:42:15 PM |
Where's the story on how much Wilson has raised? I'm sure it's close if not more.
| Therion
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2009-09-10 01:42:57 PM |
Action Replay Nick: I'm pretty sure it was well under $10k when I first saw the link posted last night after the speech.
Yeah, about $8,600 before the fun started.
Yeah, about $8,600 before the fun started.
| DarnoKonrad | 2009-09-10 01:43:12 PM |
Count me in. I've been meaning to give to act blue recently, and this incident was the impetus I needed to get donating again.
I'll be damned if this nation reverts to conservative rule again.
I'll be damned if this nation reverts to conservative rule again.
| bobbette
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2009-09-10 01:43:41 PM |
If I could donate I would chip in $5 just for the LOL-factor.
And because Joe the Wilson really does seem like an ass.
Btw: ElChode I snort-laughed. It was profoundly dorky-sounding. PROUD
And because Joe the Wilson really does seem like an ass.
Btw: ElChode I snort-laughed. It was profoundly dorky-sounding. PROUD
| vernonFL
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2009-09-10 01:43:50 PM |
Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
At least the governor is banging chicks in Brazil, it can't be that bad.
At least the governor is banging chicks in Brazil, it can't be that bad.
| Jpud73 | 2009-09-10 01:44:14 PM |
Hollywood Cole:
I wonder if while the words were still coming out of his mouth, he had a moment of clarity in the back of his mind where he thought to himself, "WTF am I doing? This will probably not end well."
This is what happens when you (ie the republicans) endorse the increasingly hateful rhetoric against Obama. People like Wilson dont know when to stop it. They forget themselves and get caught up in the hate train that's been rolling since before the election results were in.....its now hurting the republicans more than its hurting Obama.
If only the republicans were smart enough to see this.
I wonder if while the words were still coming out of his mouth, he had a moment of clarity in the back of his mind where he thought to himself, "WTF am I doing? This will probably not end well."
This is what happens when you (ie the republicans) endorse the increasingly hateful rhetoric against Obama. People like Wilson dont know when to stop it. They forget themselves and get caught up in the hate train that's been rolling since before the election results were in.....its now hurting the republicans more than its hurting Obama.
If only the republicans were smart enough to see this.
| wage0048 | 2009-09-10 01:44:46 PM |
No matter how much you disagree with the statement being made, when you are in the chambers of the House or Senate, you are bound by the rules. These rules include decorum and provide specific circumstances during which the person with the floor may be interrupted by a member. Any other distraction or interruption is not only rude but forbidden under the rules.
That said, this guy ought to be censured.
That said, this guy ought to be censured.
| WTF Indeed | 2009-09-10 01:45:22 PM |
whistleridge: Gulper Eel: Diogenes: Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
Actually, that one looks downright rational compared to some:
Check out Rep. Murtha's in PA
Link (new window)
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
Actually, that one looks downright rational compared to some:
Check out Rep. Murtha's in PA
Link (new window)
| Jpud73 | 2009-09-10 01:45:42 PM |
RockIsDead: Typical Dem REACTIONARIES.
ACTION, not so much.
What about the "ACTION" of taking back the house senate and presidency.
But by all means, keep talking ignorant shiat. You and Mr Wilson can conquer the world together.
ACTION, not so much.
What about the "ACTION" of taking back the house senate and presidency.
But by all means, keep talking ignorant shiat. You and Mr Wilson can conquer the world together.
| ThematicDevice | 2009-09-10 01:46:17 PM |
Eddie Adams from Torrance: That's why, as a general rule, we don't elect 12 year old's to Congress.
Haven't looked at the shenanigans the House has pulled over the last decade or so have you?
I personally like calling the police because you don't want the other party to talk, or turning off the lights and sound system because you said the meeting was over.
Haven't looked at the shenanigans the House has pulled over the last decade or so have you?
I personally like calling the police because you don't want the other party to talk, or turning off the lights and sound system because you said the meeting was over.
| DarnoKonrad | 2009-09-10 01:46:37 PM |
wage0048: That said, this guy ought to be censured beaten in the next election.
Don't make a martyr out of his dumb ass.
Don't make a martyr out of his dumb ass.
| EmanWilm | 2009-09-10 01:46:46 PM |
jyoders19: Where's the story on how much Wilson has raised? I'm sure it's close if not more.
/ Doubt it, but anything's possible.
/ Doubt it, but anything's possible.
| m1ke
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2009-09-10 01:46:54 PM |
I think they are more like AstroTurf contributions....
| Phoenix_M | 2009-09-10 01:46:58 PM |
Wilson will win re-election, just because morons from democraticunderground started sending money to his opponent doesn't mean anyting.
| I Said
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2009-09-10 01:47:31 PM |
WTF Indeed: whistleridge: Gulper Eel: Diogenes: Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
Actually, that one looks downright rational compared to some:
Check out Rep. Murtha's in PA
Link (new window)
That looks like an inkblot test
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
Actually, that one looks downright rational compared to some:
Check out Rep. Murtha's in PA
Link (new window)
That looks like an inkblot test
| Cyberluddite
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2009-09-10 01:48:00 PM |
I generally don't contibute money to Congresscritters or wannabee Congresscritters on moral grounds, just as I don't patronize prostitutes. But I'm making an exception here, and throwing this guy Miller a C-Note.
| Jpud73 | 2009-09-10 01:48:04 PM |
jyoders19: Where's the story on how much Wilson has raised? I'm sure it's close if not more.
I doubt it. Anyone who thought what he did was a good thing. Probably do not own a working television, and if they did, they couldn't give anyway... all their money would be tied up in pig feed and patching up their overalls.
I doubt it. Anyone who thought what he did was a good thing. Probably do not own a working television, and if they did, they couldn't give anyway... all their money would be tied up in pig feed and patching up their overalls.
| I Said
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2009-09-10 01:48:23 PM |
Phoenix_M: Wilson will win re-election, just because morons from democraticunderground started sending money to his opponent doesn't mean anyting.
So sayeth Phoenix_M, knower of all things past, present, and future.
So sayeth Phoenix_M, knower of all things past, present, and future.
| RockIsDead | 2009-09-10 01:48:34 PM |
Remember his name when his statement comes true.
| Now That's What I Call a Taco! | 2009-09-10 01:49:08 PM |
Phoenix_M: Wilson will win re-election, just because morons from democraticunderground started sending money to his opponent doesn't mean anyting.
You sound scared. Just keep telling yourself that, it'll be OK.
You sound scared. Just keep telling yourself that, it'll be OK.
| Wendy's Chili | 2009-09-10 01:49:12 PM |
That's fantastic. Now how about we start raising money to defeat Max Baucus in his next primary.
| Jpud73 | 2009-09-10 01:49:27 PM |
Phoenix_M: Wilson will win re-election, just because morons from democraticunderground started sending money to his opponent doesn't mean anyting.
Really. Apparently you forgot about last election cycle.
I would try to forget it too if I were a republican.
Really. Apparently you forgot about last election cycle.
I would try to forget it too if I were a republican.
| Now That's What I Call a Taco! | 2009-09-10 01:51:21 PM |
I love things like this, if only because they absolutely destroy the "silent majority" myth that Rublicans cling to like a security blanket.
History has passed you by. Adapt or die. There is no other option.
History has passed you by. Adapt or die. There is no other option.
| kpottruff | 2009-09-10 01:52:51 PM |
Just out of curiosity when your country goes wacko and slides into civil war what side should I bet on? I like me a little wagering on occasion.
| Cyberluddite
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2009-09-10 01:52:59 PM |
RockIsDead: Remember his name when his statement comes true.
Look, it's been 2000 years already, no matter how many times you predict that it's going to happen soon, that Jesus guy is not going to come back to earth and initiate the rapture. It's nice that you have faith, but don't expect me to believe that load of horseshiat just because you do.
Oh, wait . . . were you talking about some different--but similarly unlikely--belief of blind faith?
Look, it's been 2000 years already, no matter how many times you predict that it's going to happen soon, that Jesus guy is not going to come back to earth and initiate the rapture. It's nice that you have faith, but don't expect me to believe that load of horseshiat just because you do.
Oh, wait . . . were you talking about some different--but similarly unlikely--belief of blind faith?
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 01:54:16 PM |
Surprise, surprise. Mr. miller's biggest contributing group is Kossacks for Miller. Is it like a hive mind over there? And is it spilling over to here?
| DarnoKonrad | 2009-09-10 01:54:23 PM |
kpottruff: Just out of curiosity when your country goes wacko and slides into civil war what side should I bet on?
not Canada.
not Canada.
| WCHeadhunter | 2009-09-10 01:54:47 PM |
I Said
Action Replay Nick:
Hi-f*cking-larious.
These are all small donors and the election is pretty far away. I fully expect to see another big push for him as it gets closer.
And I fully expect you two dumbasses to give even more money to this loser. Joe Wilson is a mother farking hero to a lot of people in his district this morning.
Action Replay Nick:
Hi-f*cking-larious.
These are all small donors and the election is pretty far away. I fully expect to see another big push for him as it gets closer.
And I fully expect you two dumbasses to give even more money to this loser. Joe Wilson is a mother farking hero to a lot of people in his district this morning.
| inglixthemad
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2009-09-10 01:54:53 PM |
Subby: former-Marine Rob Miller
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
| Cyberluddite
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2009-09-10 01:55:03 PM |
kpottruff: Just out of curiosity when your country goes wacko and slides into civil war what side should I bet on? I like me a little wagering on occasion.
Well, as much as I hate to admit it, at that point it's probably best to bet on the wingnuts, since they have most of the guns.
Well, as much as I hate to admit it, at that point it's probably best to bet on the wingnuts, since they have most of the guns.
| Brainsick | 2009-09-10 01:55:12 PM |
Diogenes: ne2d: Diogenes: Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
Is it? It seems that something like this might resonate with the "base."
Lies, arrogance, infidelity, and childishness resonates with your "base"? If that's the case, you can have 'em.
Love the sinner, hate the sin!
Is it? It seems that something like this might resonate with the "base."
Lies, arrogance, infidelity, and childishness resonates with your "base"? If that's the case, you can have 'em.
Love the sinner, hate the sin!
| tallguywithglasseson
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2009-09-10 01:55:26 PM |
I Said: I really think it's worth it and Bachmann barely won last time.
Ooooh, and hang on a second here...
From Wiki:
Part of my rationale was also an assumption that a vast majority of his constituents wouldn't mind him shouting at the President about illegal immigrants - as long as that President was Barack Hussein Obama. But that may not have been a safe assumption either, especially in light of his immediate apology.
So, hell, give if you wanna, I guess.
Ooooh, and hang on a second here...
From Wiki:
In the 2008 general election, he won 54% of the vote to Rob Miller's 46%,[8] the closest race in the district in 20 years.I take what I said back, this district is much, much more competitive than I had assumed.
Part of my rationale was also an assumption that a vast majority of his constituents wouldn't mind him shouting at the President about illegal immigrants - as long as that President was Barack Hussein Obama. But that may not have been a safe assumption either, especially in light of his immediate apology.
So, hell, give if you wanna, I guess.
| whereisian | 2009-09-10 01:55:29 PM |
kpottruff: Just out of curiosity when your country goes wacko and slides into civil war what side should I bet on? I like me a little wagering on occasion.
As far as I know, most of the larger military installations are in blue or purple states.
As far as I know, most of the larger military installations are in blue or purple states.
| DarnoKonrad | 2009-09-10 01:56:37 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Surprise, surprise. Mr. miller's biggest contributing group is Kossacks for Miller. Is it like a hive mind over there? And is it spilling over to here?
Well they didn't need AM radio or FOX news to spontaneously start donating. It's too cynical for you Mr. Six_Fingers.
You can't tell me that spectacle was good for the GOP last night can you?
Well they didn't need AM radio or FOX news to spontaneously start donating. It's too cynical for you Mr. Six_Fingers.
You can't tell me that spectacle was good for the GOP last night can you?
| Rann Xerox | 2009-09-10 01:57:17 PM |
RockIsDead: Remember his name when his statement comes true.
Rock is dead....
Rock is dead....
*ADDS RockIsDead TO KILLFILE*
Rock is deeeee-aaaaaaaaad!
Rock is dead....
Rock is dead....
*ADDS RockIsDead TO KILLFILE*
Rock is deeeee-aaaaaaaaad!
| Masso | 2009-09-10 01:57:52 PM |
whistleridge: Gulper Eel: Diogenes: Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
Actually, that one looks downright rational compared to some:
Wow, District 4 Illinois is really bullshiat, but I can understand the California one.
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
Actually, that one looks downright rational compared to some:
Wow, District 4 Illinois is really bullshiat, but I can understand the California one.
| Brainsick | 2009-09-10 01:58:04 PM |
ThematicDevice: Eddie Adams from Torrance: That's why, as a general rule, we don't elect 12 year old's to Congress.
Haven't looked at the shenanigans the House has pulled over the last decade or so have you?
I personally like calling the police because you don't want the other party to talk, or turning off the lights and sound system because you said the meeting was over.
You forgot "habitually moving policy meetings to a new location twenty minutes before they were supposed to start and 'accidentally' not informing the people you didn't want there (House Dems)"
Haven't looked at the shenanigans the House has pulled over the last decade or so have you?
I personally like calling the police because you don't want the other party to talk, or turning off the lights and sound system because you said the meeting was over.
You forgot "habitually moving policy meetings to a new location twenty minutes before they were supposed to start and 'accidentally' not informing the people you didn't want there (House Dems)"
| realmolo | 2009-09-10 01:58:11 PM |
kpottruff: Just out of curiosity when your country goes wacko and slides into civil war what side should I bet on? I like me a little wagering on occasion.
Always bet on black.
Always bet on black.
| ilambiquated | 2009-09-10 01:58:23 PM |
Wonder how long Fox has been sitting on this video?
| Action Replay Nick
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2009-09-10 01:58:32 PM |
WCHeadhunter: Joe Wilson is a mother farking hero to a lot of people in his district this morning.
As tallguywithglasseson points out, it would seem that the idiots who woke up to their new WHARGARBLING hero are steadily driving people to vote the other way. It's becoming competitive.
So, please, by all means, continue this winning strategy.
As tallguywithglasseson points out, it would seem that the idiots who woke up to their new WHARGARBLING hero are steadily driving people to vote the other way. It's becoming competitive.
So, please, by all means, continue this winning strategy.
| Noam Chimpsky | 2009-09-10 01:58:39 PM |
Has Miller said Obama was telling the truth? Wilson will hold his seat in Congress until he takes Lindsey Graham's seat when it next comes up for election.
| Lumi | 2009-09-10 01:58:43 PM |
I Said: tallguywithglasseson: I predict a repeat of El Tinklenberg.
I wouldn't advise spending your money this way, unless you want to spend it as a symbolic gesture.
From Wiki: Bachmann won 46.41% to 43.43%.[64] Because Tinklenberg was running as a DFLer in the Democratic primary this allowed candidate Bob Anderson to run in the Independence party primary unopposed despite not having the Independence endorsement. Anderson received 10% of the vote.
I really think it's worth it and Bachmann barely won last time.
And Tinkle got it all in the last couple of weeks before the election. He wasn't even able to spend it all. I'd say due to a combination of advertising schedules and production timelines plus being overwhelmed and not knowing what to do with it.
This fellow has over a year to plot, now. ;-)
I wouldn't advise spending your money this way, unless you want to spend it as a symbolic gesture.
From Wiki: Bachmann won 46.41% to 43.43%.[64] Because Tinklenberg was running as a DFLer in the Democratic primary this allowed candidate Bob Anderson to run in the Independence party primary unopposed despite not having the Independence endorsement. Anderson received 10% of the vote.
I really think it's worth it and Bachmann barely won last time.
And Tinkle got it all in the last couple of weeks before the election. He wasn't even able to spend it all. I'd say due to a combination of advertising schedules and production timelines plus being overwhelmed and not knowing what to do with it.
This fellow has over a year to plot, now. ;-)
| I Said
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2009-09-10 01:59:01 PM |
WCHeadhunter: And I fully expect you two dumbasses to give even more money to this loser. Joe Wilson is a mother farking hero to a lot of people in his district this morning.
Glass. Parking. Lot.
Glass. Parking. Lot.
| joeyromeo | 2009-09-10 01:59:58 PM |
"Tim, YOU LIE"
| Jpud73 | 2009-09-10 02:00:11 PM |
Now That's What I Call a Taco!: I love things like this, if only because they absolutely destroy the "silent majority" myth that Rublicans cling to like a security blanket.
History has passed you by. Adapt or die. There is no other option.
SHHHHHH!
Let them think they are relevant
History has passed you by. Adapt or die. There is no other option.
SHHHHHH!
Let them think they are relevant
| Krymson Tyde | 2009-09-10 02:00:32 PM |
what_now: ne2d: I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of his voters agreed with this.
Agreed with what? The utter and total fallacy that illegal immigrants will get access to the public option, or the ill breeding required to interrupt someone's speech?
With whatever Rush, Sean, Michael, Bill and their preacher tells them to agree with.
Agreed with what? The utter and total fallacy that illegal immigrants will get access to the public option, or the ill breeding required to interrupt someone's speech?
With whatever Rush, Sean, Michael, Bill and their preacher tells them to agree with.
| I Said
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2009-09-10 02:00:33 PM |
| Cyberluddite
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2009-09-10 02:00:37 PM |
WCHeadhunter: Joe Wilson is a mother farking hero to a lot of people in his district this morning.
Perhaps. Those are the people who have supported both Strom Thurmond and Mark Sanford as their governors (and then kept electing old Strom to the Senate for about 100 years), and who start blubbering with emotion when anybody suggests that there's anything wrong with them still having the stars and bars on their state flag. In other words, a bunch of retarded rednecks.
Perhaps. Those are the people who have supported both Strom Thurmond and Mark Sanford as their governors (and then kept electing old Strom to the Senate for about 100 years), and who start blubbering with emotion when anybody suggests that there's anything wrong with them still having the stars and bars on their state flag. In other words, a bunch of retarded rednecks.
| thenateman | 2009-09-10 02:01:43 PM |
The manners police are all over this one.
| WCHeadhunter | 2009-09-10 02:03:22 PM |
Rann Xerox: RockIsDead: Remember his name when his statement comes true.
Rock is dead....
Rock is dead....
*ADDS RockIsDead TO KILLFILE*
Rock is deeeee-aaaaaaaaad!
Why don't you just put your hands over your ears and start screaming NAH NAH NAH NAH?
It would better suit your age group.
Rock is dead....
Rock is dead....
*ADDS RockIsDead TO KILLFILE*
Rock is deeeee-aaaaaaaaad!
Why don't you just put your hands over your ears and start screaming NAH NAH NAH NAH?
It would better suit your age group.
| TwoHead
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2009-09-10 02:03:44 PM |
Rann Xerox: Rock is deeeee-aaaaaaaaad!
Normally I'm against that sort of thing, but I really enjoyed listening to your post.
Normally I'm against that sort of thing, but I really enjoyed listening to your post.
| Cubicle Jockey | 2009-09-10 02:04:37 PM |
Currently at:
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
| Johnny Swank | 2009-09-10 02:05:17 PM |
$330K, and counting. $5K in the last 5 minutes.
Jebus!
Jebus!
| Noam Chimpsky | 2009-09-10 02:05:20 PM |
inglixthemad: Subby: former-Marine Rob Miller
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
Democrat-types like Miller, Murtha and Oswald aren't considered Marines-for-life.
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
Democrat-types like Miller, Murtha and Oswald aren't considered Marines-for-life.
| Brainsick | 2009-09-10 02:05:28 PM |
WCHeadhunter: Joe Wilson is a mother farking hero to a lot of people in his district this morning.
/was looking for a "good ol shoe" pic from wag the dog...alas...
/was looking for a "good ol shoe" pic from wag the dog...alas...
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 02:06:34 PM |
Wilson should f*cking be driven from office.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 02:06:58 PM |
DarnoKonrad: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Surprise, surprise. Mr. miller's biggest contributing group is Kossacks for Miller. Is it like a hive mind over there? And is it spilling over to here?
Well they didn't need AM radio or FOX news to spontaneously start donating. It's too cynical for you Mr. Six_Fingers.
You can't tell me that spectacle was good for the GOP last night can you?
The GOP as a whole, nope. His district? That remains to be seen.
Well they didn't need AM radio or FOX news to spontaneously start donating. It's too cynical for you Mr. Six_Fingers.
You can't tell me that spectacle was good for the GOP last night can you?
The GOP as a whole, nope. His district? That remains to be seen.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 02:07:43 PM |
whidbey: Wilson should f*cking be driven from office.
You don't think he drives himself around, now do you?
You don't think he drives himself around, now do you?
| Coronach | 2009-09-10 02:07:49 PM |
Liars lie.
Page 132, section 242.
Page 132, section 242.
| Jpud73 | 2009-09-10 02:08:22 PM |
WCHeadhunter:
And I fully expect you two dumbasses to give even more money to this loser. Joe Wilson is a mother farking hero to a lot of people in his district this morning.
You say it with a sense of pride. as if yelling out a child like comment during a presidential address is an admirable thing. That's the biggest problem with the republicans these days always getting pride and embarrassment mixed up.
/There is no better proponent of the democratic party than the republican party.
And I fully expect you two dumbasses to give even more money to this loser. Joe Wilson is a mother farking hero to a lot of people in his district this morning.
You say it with a sense of pride. as if yelling out a child like comment during a presidential address is an admirable thing. That's the biggest problem with the republicans these days always getting pride and embarrassment mixed up.
/There is no better proponent of the democratic party than the republican party.
| someonelse | 2009-09-10 02:08:36 PM |
Jpud73: jyoders19: Where's the story on how much Wilson has raised? I'm sure it's close if not more.
I doubt it. Anyone who thought what he did was a good thing. Probably do not own a working television, and if they did, they couldn't give anyway... all their money would be tied up in pig feed and patching up their overalls.
Plus, isn't his website still down?
I doubt it. Anyone who thought what he did was a good thing. Probably do not own a working television, and if they did, they couldn't give anyway... all their money would be tied up in pig feed and patching up their overalls.
Plus, isn't his website still down?
| thenateman | 2009-09-10 02:09:06 PM |
Johnny Swank: $330K, and counting. $5K in the last 5 minutes.
Jebus!
I wonder if these people take an equally hard-line stance against booing, or if it's only fully formed words that grind their gears.
Jebus!
I wonder if these people take an equally hard-line stance against booing, or if it's only fully formed words that grind their gears.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 02:10:38 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: whidbey: Wilson should f*cking be driven from office.
You don't think he drives himself around, now do you?
I heard they put a car in his car so he could drive while they drive him...
You don't think he drives himself around, now do you?
I heard they put a car in his car so he could drive while they drive him...
| WCHeadhunter | 2009-09-10 02:11:03 PM |
Cubicle Jockey: Currently at:
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
So, once again, allow me to implore all of you lefties to give and keep giving. Give until it hurts. Let's go for an even fiddy!
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
So, once again, allow me to implore all of you lefties to give and keep giving. Give until it hurts. Let's go for an even fiddy!
| DarnoKonrad | 2009-09-10 02:11:47 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: His district?
Was close last election according to wiki. (new window)
But, yea, who knows. But generally people don't like their reps bringing negative attention home.
Was close last election according to wiki. (new window)
But, yea, who knows. But generally people don't like their reps bringing negative attention home.
| suebhoney | 2009-09-10 02:11:51 PM |
WCHeadhunter: Cubicle Jockey: Currently at:
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
So, once again, allow me to implore all of you lefties to give and keep giving. Give until it hurts. Let's go for an even fiddy!
You sound concerned.
/and fat
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
So, once again, allow me to implore all of you lefties to give and keep giving. Give until it hurts. Let's go for an even fiddy!
You sound concerned.
/and fat
| RockIsDead | 2009-09-10 02:12:43 PM |
HAHA!
You could blastpheme Jesus and not get such a vitriolic response from the most die-hard Christians!
Show us your obsessive adoration, Obots!
You could blastpheme Jesus and not get such a vitriolic response from the most die-hard Christians!
Show us your obsessive adoration, Obots!
| Brainsick | 2009-09-10 02:13:09 PM |
amp;IDComment=54290664#c54290664">Noam Chimpsky: inglixthemad: Subby: former-Marine Rob Miller
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
Democrat-types like Miller, Murtha and Oswald aren't considered Marines-for-life.
Now THESE guys...Semper Fi, Amirite??!
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
Democrat-types like Miller, Murtha and Oswald aren't considered Marines-for-life.
Now THESE guys...Semper Fi, Amirite??!
| ddam | 2009-09-10 02:13:20 PM |
suebhoney: WCHeadhunter: Cubicle Jockey: Currently at:
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
So, once again, allow me to implore all of you lefties to give and keep giving. Give until it hurts. Let's go for an even fiddy!
You sound concerned.
/and fat
While I agree with you, I think he sounds more fat the concerned.
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
So, once again, allow me to implore all of you lefties to give and keep giving. Give until it hurts. Let's go for an even fiddy!
You sound concerned.
/and fat
While I agree with you, I think he sounds more fat the concerned.
| Jpud73 | 2009-09-10 02:13:34 PM |
Noam Chimpsky: inglixthemad: Subby: former-Marine Rob Miller
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
Democrat-types like Miller, Murtha and Oswald aren't considered Marines-for-life.
Look I know you are a know nothing attention whore. I've taken to playing carnival music while reading your posts (as it as some credibility to them).
But comparing Rob Miller to Lee Harvey Oswald.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......you've reached an all time low (as well as an all time comical high).
What you fail to realize is that when you say stupid shiat like this, anything you say from here on out is worthless drivel. That's what you have done to yourself. Just like the Republican party. You keep shooting yourself in the foot over and over again.
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
Democrat-types like Miller, Murtha and Oswald aren't considered Marines-for-life.
Look I know you are a know nothing attention whore. I've taken to playing carnival music while reading your posts (as it as some credibility to them).
But comparing Rob Miller to Lee Harvey Oswald.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......you've reached an all time low (as well as an all time comical high).
What you fail to realize is that when you say stupid shiat like this, anything you say from here on out is worthless drivel. That's what you have done to yourself. Just like the Republican party. You keep shooting yourself in the foot over and over again.
| Cat Food Sandwiches | 2009-09-10 02:14:23 PM |
I'm thinking either: A fool and his money are soon parted or there's a sucker born every minute.
| Masso | 2009-09-10 02:14:43 PM |
UNC_Samurai: I'm glad to see Miller's war chest expanding, but remember: Bachmann's opponent Tinklenburg had a fund-raising field day right after her October appearance on hardball, and the functional retards of Minnesota's 6th still reelected her.
It was 3% man. Bachmann won by only 3%. Miller vs. Wilson was 8% on their last match.
It was 3% man. Bachmann won by only 3%. Miller vs. Wilson was 8% on their last match.
| WCHeadhunter | 2009-09-10 02:14:53 PM |
suebhoney: WCHeadhunter: Cubicle Jockey: Currently at:
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
So, once again, allow me to implore all of you lefties to give and keep giving. Give until it hurts. Let's go for an even fiddy!
You sound concerned.
/and fat
You'll never get a boyfriend until you get rid of all those farking cats. You know that, right?
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
So, once again, allow me to implore all of you lefties to give and keep giving. Give until it hurts. Let's go for an even fiddy!
You sound concerned.
/and fat
You'll never get a boyfriend until you get rid of all those farking cats. You know that, right?
| suebhoney | 2009-09-10 02:15:06 PM |
Jpud73: Noam Chimpsky: inglixthemad: Subby: former-Marine Rob Miller
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
Democrat-types like Miller, Murtha and Oswald aren't considered Marines-for-life.
Look I know you are a know nothing attention whore. I've taken to playing carnival music while reading your posts (as it as some credibility to them).
But comparing Rob Miller to Lee Harvey Oswald.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......you've reached an all time low (as well as an all time comical high).
What you fail to realize is that when you say stupid shiat like this, anything you say from here on out is worthless drivel. That's what you have done to yourself. Just like the Republican party. You keep shooting yourself in the foot over and over again.
They keep shooting their constituents feet, it's why they don't care ;)
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
Democrat-types like Miller, Murtha and Oswald aren't considered Marines-for-life.
Look I know you are a know nothing attention whore. I've taken to playing carnival music while reading your posts (as it as some credibility to them).
But comparing Rob Miller to Lee Harvey Oswald.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......you've reached an all time low (as well as an all time comical high).
What you fail to realize is that when you say stupid shiat like this, anything you say from here on out is worthless drivel. That's what you have done to yourself. Just like the Republican party. You keep shooting yourself in the foot over and over again.
They keep shooting their constituents feet, it's why they don't care ;)
| I Said
|
2009-09-10 02:15:51 PM |
These threads would be a lot more fun if the GOP's actions weren't so retarded as to make their defenders look like trolls.
| xdedd | 2009-09-10 02:16:09 PM |
Awesome.
/Fark you Joe Wilson.
/Fark you Joe Wilson.
| suebhoney | 2009-09-10 02:16:20 PM |
WCHeadhunter: suebhoney: WCHeadhunter: Cubicle Jockey: Currently at:
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
So, once again, allow me to implore all of you lefties to give and keep giving. Give until it hurts. Let's go for an even fiddy!
You sound concerned.
/and fat
You'll never get a boyfriend until you get rid of all those farking cats. You know that, right?
Know your adversary sweetie.
All you guys bring to the threads anymore is fail.
High entertainment for me though on these boring days of late.
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
So, once again, allow me to implore all of you lefties to give and keep giving. Give until it hurts. Let's go for an even fiddy!
You sound concerned.
/and fat
You'll never get a boyfriend until you get rid of all those farking cats. You know that, right?
Know your adversary sweetie.
All you guys bring to the threads anymore is fail.
High entertainment for me though on these boring days of late.
| keylock71 | 2009-09-10 02:16:39 PM |
Unintended consequences are awesome...
But again, until I see some figures on how much supporters of this jackass are contributing to his campaign, it might just be pissing in the wind...
It's interesting that said Jackass' site is down, though.
But again, until I see some figures on how much supporters of this jackass are contributing to his campaign, it might just be pissing in the wind...
It's interesting that said Jackass' site is down, though.
| what_now
|
2009-09-10 02:16:47 PM |
Noam Chimpsky: Democrat-types like Miller, Murtha and Oswald aren't considered Marines-for-life.
HARTMAN: All right, knock it off! Two hundred and fifty feet! He was two hundred and fifty feet away and shooting at a moving target. Oswald got off three rounds with an old Italian bolt action rifle in only six seconds and scored two hits, including a head shot! Do any of you people know where these individuals learned to shoot? Private Joker?
JOKER: Sir, in the Marines, sir!
HARTMAN: In the Marines! Outstanding! Those individuals showed what one motivated marine and his rifle can do! And before you ladies leave my island, you will be able to do the same thing!
HARTMAN: All right, knock it off! Two hundred and fifty feet! He was two hundred and fifty feet away and shooting at a moving target. Oswald got off three rounds with an old Italian bolt action rifle in only six seconds and scored two hits, including a head shot! Do any of you people know where these individuals learned to shoot? Private Joker?
JOKER: Sir, in the Marines, sir!
HARTMAN: In the Marines! Outstanding! Those individuals showed what one motivated marine and his rifle can do! And before you ladies leave my island, you will be able to do the same thing!
| UNCPWAD | 2009-09-10 02:17:07 PM |
Gulper Eel: Diogenes: Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
NC still wins hands down for gerrymandering
Normally, but say hello to another gerrymandered district map:
NC still wins hands down for gerrymandering
| moralpanic | 2009-09-10 02:17:14 PM |
Masso: UNC_Samurai: I'm glad to see Miller's war chest expanding, but remember: Bachmann's opponent Tinklenburg had a fund-raising field day right after her October appearance on hardball, and the functional retards of Minnesota's 6th still reelected her.
It was 3% man. Bachmann won by only 3%. Miller vs. Wilson was 8% on their last match.
And he only had a couple of weeks before the election, so he really wasn't able to take full advantage of the funds.
It was 3% man. Bachmann won by only 3%. Miller vs. Wilson was 8% on their last match.
And he only had a couple of weeks before the election, so he really wasn't able to take full advantage of the funds.
| Jpud73 | 2009-09-10 02:17:25 PM |
I Said: These threads would be a lot more fun if the GOP's actions weren't so retarded as to make their defenders look like trolls.
That's all they have left.
That's all they have left.
| Magorn | 2009-09-10 02:18:05 PM |
UNC_Samurai: I'm glad to see Miller's war chest expanding, but remember: Bachmann's opponent Tinklenburg had a fund-raising field day right after her October appearance on hardball, and the functional retards of Minnesota's 6th still reelected her.
Yet, It was STILL a major victory for the Democrats. Why? because Michelle Bachmann should have been a shoe in for that seat and been able to run a fairly cheap campaign, leaving her with a big old war chest to use to help out other GOP candidates (this is how members of Congress gain power-by helping other members out, usually with campaign contributions, who then owe a favors down the road-collect enough, and you too can be appointed to a leadership position)
Instead she had to drain her accounts AND IIRC call in some RNC money, just to keep what should have been an easy seat.
This hurt other repoublicans running in closer elections who needed that money. So the extra money she had to spend after shooting her mouth off might be, for example,the reason we have a Senator franken, rather than Sen Coleman
Yet, It was STILL a major victory for the Democrats. Why? because Michelle Bachmann should have been a shoe in for that seat and been able to run a fairly cheap campaign, leaving her with a big old war chest to use to help out other GOP candidates (this is how members of Congress gain power-by helping other members out, usually with campaign contributions, who then owe a favors down the road-collect enough, and you too can be appointed to a leadership position)
Instead she had to drain her accounts AND IIRC call in some RNC money, just to keep what should have been an easy seat.
This hurt other repoublicans running in closer elections who needed that money. So the extra money she had to spend after shooting her mouth off might be, for example,the reason we have a Senator franken, rather than Sen Coleman
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 02:18:36 PM |
DarnoKonrad: The_Six_Fingered_Man: His district?
Was close last election according to wiki. (new window)
But, yea, who knows. But generally people don't like their reps bringing negative attention home.
Entirely true. And it appears his support had been dwindling before the 08 election. It also appears that a ton more Democrats came out to vote in 08. I wonder why that is.
All I'm saying is that this happened far enough ahead of the mid-term elections that it might not matter to the voters of SC-2. Not to mention there isn't a charismatic Democrat running for national office in 2010 that inspired a lot of people to come out and vote that normally wouldn't have, as evidenced in the large uptick in Democrat voters the last go round.
Was close last election according to wiki. (new window)
But, yea, who knows. But generally people don't like their reps bringing negative attention home.
Entirely true. And it appears his support had been dwindling before the 08 election. It also appears that a ton more Democrats came out to vote in 08. I wonder why that is.
All I'm saying is that this happened far enough ahead of the mid-term elections that it might not matter to the voters of SC-2. Not to mention there isn't a charismatic Democrat running for national office in 2010 that inspired a lot of people to come out and vote that normally wouldn't have, as evidenced in the large uptick in Democrat voters the last go round.
| please | 2009-09-10 02:18:38 PM |
Diogenes: ne2d: Diogenes: Bad times for South Carolina's GOP.
Is it? It seems that something like this might resonate with the "base."
Lies, arrogance, infidelity, and childishness resonates with your "base"? If that's the case, you can have 'em.
Have you been out of the country or under a rock for a while?
/S.O.P. now unfortunately...
Is it? It seems that something like this might resonate with the "base."
Lies, arrogance, infidelity, and childishness resonates with your "base"? If that's the case, you can have 'em.
Have you been out of the country or under a rock for a while?
/S.O.P. now unfortunately...
| WCHeadhunter | 2009-09-10 02:18:57 PM |
I Said: These threads would be a lot more fun if the GOP's actions weren't so retarded as to make their defenders look like trolls.
You pay money for the chance to troll.
You pay money for the chance to troll.
| whistleridge
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2009-09-10 02:19:12 PM |
$330,000.
At this rate, he'll pass a half million by tomorrow.
In all fairness, he should send an extremely nice letter to Wilson:
Dear Joe,
I know we've had our differences in the past, and I know we're going to be on opposite sides of the debate come 2010, but I think it's incredibly sporting of you to spot me $500,000 like that. And without any fundraising dinners or anything. In the event that you should win...well played, sir, and may your career be golden. In the event that I should win, you are definitely invited to the victory celebration. We'll be having barbecue, at my place.
Sincerely,
Rob
PS: you know I'm going to wipe the floor with you. You shouldn't have said that
At this rate, he'll pass a half million by tomorrow.
In all fairness, he should send an extremely nice letter to Wilson:
Dear Joe,
I know we've had our differences in the past, and I know we're going to be on opposite sides of the debate come 2010, but I think it's incredibly sporting of you to spot me $500,000 like that. And without any fundraising dinners or anything. In the event that you should win...well played, sir, and may your career be golden. In the event that I should win, you are definitely invited to the victory celebration. We'll be having barbecue, at my place.
Sincerely,
Rob
PS: you know I'm going to wipe the floor with you. You shouldn't have said that
| tallguywithglasseson
|
2009-09-10 02:20:22 PM |
Action Replay Nick: WCHeadhunter: Joe Wilson is a mother farking hero to a lot of people in his district this morning.
As tallguywithglasseson points out, it would seem that the idiots who woke up to their new WHARGARBLING hero are steadily driving people to vote the other way.
Actually, I'd say:
-I don't doubt WCHeadhunter is right, he probably is a hero to quite a few people in his district.
However, it's quite a few LESS people than I'd thought initially
-The district was already competitive in 2008 (!) This is before this incident, or any of the money or anything came in... we'll have to wait to see what affect this has on polls.
-I'd guess his opponent got an "Obama bump" in '08. The district is 26% black, voter turnout amongst African Americans, IIRC, was up in 2008, and they voted overwhelmingly for Obama. White (and everyone else) Democrats (and other non-Republicans) may have turned out for Obama in larger numbers too, 2010 will be a mid-term so you might expect lower turnout... not sure if the incident would affect overall turnout... maybe a non-affiliated "get out the vote" drive effort would be another good idea for the district. IIRC higher turnout usually hurts the incumbent.
Lumi: And Tinkle got it all in the last couple of weeks before the election. He wasn't even able to spend it all. I'd say due to a combination of advertising schedules and production timelines plus being overwhelmed and not knowing what to do with it.
This fellow has over a year to plot, now. ;-)
That's another great point, in addition to above.
As tallguywithglasseson points out, it would seem that the idiots who woke up to their new WHARGARBLING hero are steadily driving people to vote the other way.
Actually, I'd say:
-I don't doubt WCHeadhunter is right, he probably is a hero to quite a few people in his district.
However, it's quite a few LESS people than I'd thought initially
-The district was already competitive in 2008 (!) This is before this incident, or any of the money or anything came in... we'll have to wait to see what affect this has on polls.
-I'd guess his opponent got an "Obama bump" in '08. The district is 26% black, voter turnout amongst African Americans, IIRC, was up in 2008, and they voted overwhelmingly for Obama. White (and everyone else) Democrats (and other non-Republicans) may have turned out for Obama in larger numbers too, 2010 will be a mid-term so you might expect lower turnout... not sure if the incident would affect overall turnout... maybe a non-affiliated "get out the vote" drive effort would be another good idea for the district. IIRC higher turnout usually hurts the incumbent.
Lumi: And Tinkle got it all in the last couple of weeks before the election. He wasn't even able to spend it all. I'd say due to a combination of advertising schedules and production timelines plus being overwhelmed and not knowing what to do with it.
This fellow has over a year to plot, now. ;-)
That's another great point, in addition to above.
| I Said
|
2009-09-10 02:20:49 PM |
WCHeadhunter: I Said: These threads would be a lot more fun if the GOP's actions weren't so retarded as to make their defenders look like trolls.
You pay money for the chance to troll.
no, I'm on a scholarship because of how I deal with trolls.
You pay money for the chance to troll.
no, I'm on a scholarship because of how I deal with trolls.
| WCHeadhunter | 2009-09-10 02:21:18 PM |
suebhoney: WCHeadhunter: suebhoney: WCHeadhunter: Cubicle Jockey: Currently at:
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
So, once again, allow me to implore all of you lefties to give and keep giving. Give until it hurts. Let's go for an even fiddy!
You sound concerned.
/and fat
You'll never get a boyfriend until you get rid of all those farking cats. You know that, right?
Know your adversary sweetie.
All you guys bring to the threads anymore is fail.
High entertainment for me though on these boring days of late.
You're not my adversary. You're just some stupid gash on the internet.
8,775 Supporters
$317,952 Raised
$36.23/supporter
They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
So, once again, allow me to implore all of you lefties to give and keep giving. Give until it hurts. Let's go for an even fiddy!
You sound concerned.
/and fat
You'll never get a boyfriend until you get rid of all those farking cats. You know that, right?
Know your adversary sweetie.
All you guys bring to the threads anymore is fail.
High entertainment for me though on these boring days of late.
You're not my adversary. You're just some stupid gash on the internet.
| RockIsDead | 2009-09-10 02:21:19 PM |
Glenn Beck should counter the amount with a call in.
That's likely use up about two minutes of his show.
That's likely use up about two minutes of his show.
| DarnoKonrad | 2009-09-10 02:21:44 PM |
| Shaggy_C | 2009-09-10 02:22:58 PM |
The guy doesn't even have a website, why are people donating to him? For all you know he's another blue dog piece of shiat.
| Dr Dreidel | 2009-09-10 02:23:17 PM |
Cyberluddite: kpottruff: Just out of curiosity when your country goes wacko and slides into civil war what side should I bet on? I like me a little wagering on occasion.
Well, as much as I hate to admit it, at that point it's probably best to bet on the wingnuts, since they have most of the guns.
Perhaps, but I visited a liberal friend in central PA - Pennsyltucky - over the weekend who lives in the ideal zombie-apocalypse-shelter location. He's an hour outside Harrisburg (Auburn), and owns an AR-15, a shotgun and a Springfield WWI-era bolt-action. All of which I shot (first time shooting, even).
I also know several libtards in the MD part of the DC area where I live who legally pack some heat. There is a branch of libtardia that eschews firearm ownership, but they're in the minority of Democrts. not a vast minority, but certainly not enough at the national level to force any kind of major gun-grabbing laws.
Guy in PA also confirmed that the reason ammo is in short supply, contrary to what my heavily Palin-Republican arsenal-owner friend claims, is the feds buying it for the troops (whom we support, don'tchaknow) and paranoid hillbillies fearful of the Melanin Marauder coming to steal their 2nd Amendment away.
Well, as much as I hate to admit it, at that point it's probably best to bet on the wingnuts, since they have most of the guns.
Perhaps, but I visited a liberal friend in central PA - Pennsyltucky - over the weekend who lives in the ideal zombie-apocalypse-shelter location. He's an hour outside Harrisburg (Auburn), and owns an AR-15, a shotgun and a Springfield WWI-era bolt-action. All of which I shot (first time shooting, even).
I also know several libtards in the MD part of the DC area where I live who legally pack some heat. There is a branch of libtardia that eschews firearm ownership, but they're in the minority of Democrts. not a vast minority, but certainly not enough at the national level to force any kind of major gun-grabbing laws.
Guy in PA also confirmed that the reason ammo is in short supply, contrary to what my heavily Palin-Republican arsenal-owner friend claims, is the feds buying it for the troops (whom we support, don'tchaknow) and paranoid hillbillies fearful of the Melanin Marauder coming to steal their 2nd Amendment away.
| whistleridge
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2009-09-10 02:23:53 PM |
DarnoKonrad: whistleridge: $330,000.
*snort*
(new window)
He just out raised the incumbent.
That's an interesting link there...all of his biggest contributors are...healthcare providers and organizations?
Maybe he was trying to raise some back-door money of his own...?
*snort*
(new window)
He just out raised the incumbent.
That's an interesting link there...all of his biggest contributors are...healthcare providers and organizations?
Maybe he was trying to raise some back-door money of his own...?
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 02:24:12 PM |
Shaggy_C: The guy doesn't even have a website, why are people donating to him? For all you know he's another blue dog piece of shiat.
Proof?
Or just pudding?
Proof?
Or just pudding?
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 02:24:32 PM |
Shaggy_C: The guy doesn't even have a website, why are people donating to him? For all you know he's another blue dog piece of shiat.
Hive mind.
Hive mind.
| Giza | 2009-09-10 02:24:45 PM |
what_now: ne2d: I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of his voters agreed with this.
Agreed with what? The utter and total fallacy that illegal immigrants will get access to the public option, or the ill breeding required to interrupt someone's speech?
This. Wilson is certainly entitled to his opinion, but shouting out to a presenter in congress is improper form. I was hoping Pelosi would say "the speaker does not recognize the delegate from South Carolina at this time". She may not have known it was him.
I would be just as angry if the Dems had acted the same when Bush was speaking. Even McCain said it was rude and he should apologize.
Agreed with what? The utter and total fallacy that illegal immigrants will get access to the public option, or the ill breeding required to interrupt someone's speech?
This. Wilson is certainly entitled to his opinion, but shouting out to a presenter in congress is improper form. I was hoping Pelosi would say "the speaker does not recognize the delegate from South Carolina at this time". She may not have known it was him.
I would be just as angry if the Dems had acted the same when Bush was speaking. Even McCain said it was rude and he should apologize.
| DarnoKonrad | 2009-09-10 02:25:53 PM |
Shaggy_C: The guy doesn't even have a website, why are people donating to him? For all you know he's another blue dog piece of shiat.
Someone's got to buy him. Better Kossacks than Lobbyists. And Act Blue doesn't do blue dogs does it?
Besides, makes a nice national narrative.
Someone's got to buy him. Better Kossacks than Lobbyists. And Act Blue doesn't do blue dogs does it?
Besides, makes a nice national narrative.
| tallguywithglasseson
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2009-09-10 02:26:15 PM |
Giza: I was hoping Pelosi would say "the speaker does not recognize the delegate from South Carolina at this time". She may not have known it was him.
LMAO
That would have been awesome.
LMAO
That would have been awesome.
| sacrileg | 2009-09-10 02:26:19 PM |
RockIsDead: HAHA! You could blastpheme Jesus and not get such a vitriolic response from the most die-hard Christians! Show us your obsessive adoration, Obots!
sick of the hate, and affecting change through non-violence. go ahead, make them madder.
sick of the hate, and affecting change through non-violence. go ahead, make them madder.
| ddam | 2009-09-10 02:26:34 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: DarnoKonrad: The_Six_Fingered_Man: His district?
Was close last election according to wiki. (new window)
But, yea, who knows. But generally people don't like their reps bringing negative attention home.
Entirely true. And it appears his support had been dwindling before the 08 election. It also appears that a ton more Democrats came out to vote in 08. I wonder why that is.
All I'm saying is that this happened far enough ahead of the mid-term elections that it might not matter to the voters of SC-2. Not to mention there isn't a charismatic Democrat running for national office in 2010 that inspired a lot of people to come out and vote that normally wouldn't have, as evidenced in the large uptick in Democrat voters the last go round.
Overall voting in the mid-term election is down but after 8 months of the GOP going full retard do you not think that quite a few republicans would be leaving the party as well? I'm not saying that they'll vote for the democrat opponent. I'm just saying that they might stay at home.
Was close last election according to wiki. (new window)
But, yea, who knows. But generally people don't like their reps bringing negative attention home.
Entirely true. And it appears his support had been dwindling before the 08 election. It also appears that a ton more Democrats came out to vote in 08. I wonder why that is.
All I'm saying is that this happened far enough ahead of the mid-term elections that it might not matter to the voters of SC-2. Not to mention there isn't a charismatic Democrat running for national office in 2010 that inspired a lot of people to come out and vote that normally wouldn't have, as evidenced in the large uptick in Democrat voters the last go round.
Overall voting in the mid-term election is down but after 8 months of the GOP going full retard do you not think that quite a few republicans would be leaving the party as well? I'm not saying that they'll vote for the democrat opponent. I'm just saying that they might stay at home.
| what_now
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2009-09-10 02:26:45 PM |
Shaggy_C: The guy doesn't even have a website, why are people donating to him? For all you know he's another blue dog piece of shiat.
Because he's the guy that DIDN'T call the President a liar during a national speech. And as he ran in 2008, there is plenty of information about him. Last night, before his campaign website crashed, I found out all about him.
Oh wait- I'm gonna go all GOP on you:
WHY DON'T YOU SUPPORT OUR VETERANS???
Because he's the guy that DIDN'T call the President a liar during a national speech. And as he ran in 2008, there is plenty of information about him. Last night, before his campaign website crashed, I found out all about him.
Oh wait- I'm gonna go all GOP on you:
WHY DON'T YOU SUPPORT OUR VETERANS???
| Gemcee | 2009-09-10 02:26:48 PM |
What a douche! As a lifelong republican, I am donating to Rob Millers campaign. Time to get the square rooters out of office.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 02:27:16 PM |
ddam: The_Six_Fingered_Man: DarnoKonrad: The_Six_Fingered_Man: His district?
Was close last election according to wiki. (new window)
But, yea, who knows. But generally people don't like their reps bringing negative attention home.
Entirely true. And it appears his support had been dwindling before the 08 election. It also appears that a ton more Democrats came out to vote in 08. I wonder why that is.
All I'm saying is that this happened far enough ahead of the mid-term elections that it might not matter to the voters of SC-2. Not to mention there isn't a charismatic Democrat running for national office in 2010 that inspired a lot of people to come out and vote that normally wouldn't have, as evidenced in the large uptick in Democrat voters the last go round.
Overall voting in the mid-term election is down but after 8 months of the GOP going full retard do you not think that quite a few republicans would be leaving the party as well? I'm not saying that they'll vote for the democrat opponent. I'm just saying that they might stay at home.
In the South Carolina 2nd? Doubtful.
Was close last election according to wiki. (new window)
But, yea, who knows. But generally people don't like their reps bringing negative attention home.
Entirely true. And it appears his support had been dwindling before the 08 election. It also appears that a ton more Democrats came out to vote in 08. I wonder why that is.
All I'm saying is that this happened far enough ahead of the mid-term elections that it might not matter to the voters of SC-2. Not to mention there isn't a charismatic Democrat running for national office in 2010 that inspired a lot of people to come out and vote that normally wouldn't have, as evidenced in the large uptick in Democrat voters the last go round.
Overall voting in the mid-term election is down but after 8 months of the GOP going full retard do you not think that quite a few republicans would be leaving the party as well? I'm not saying that they'll vote for the democrat opponent. I'm just saying that they might stay at home.
In the South Carolina 2nd? Doubtful.
| FlashHarry
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2009-09-10 02:27:55 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Shaggy_C: The guy doesn't even have a website, why are people donating to him? For all you know he's another blue dog piece of shiat.
Hive mind.
you like saying that. did you just discover that expression?
Hive mind.
you like saying that. did you just discover that expression?
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-09-10 02:29:26 PM |
Gemcee: Time to get the square rooters out of office.
I don't know that expression. What does it mean (if you don't mind me asking)?
I don't know that expression. What does it mean (if you don't mind me asking)?
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 02:29:55 PM |
FlashHarry: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Shaggy_C: The guy doesn't even have a website, why are people donating to him? For all you know he's another blue dog piece of shiat.
Hive mind.
you like saying that. did you just discover that expression?
No, but it does seem fitting given the circumstances. People who don't know who the guy is or what he stands for are giving him money hand over fist simply because he is opposing a Congressman with which they disagree with. They are doing so in large numbers without, I imagine, proper research into the candidate. This exhibits a hive mind mentality.
Hive mind.
you like saying that. did you just discover that expression?
No, but it does seem fitting given the circumstances. People who don't know who the guy is or what he stands for are giving him money hand over fist simply because he is opposing a Congressman with which they disagree with. They are doing so in large numbers without, I imagine, proper research into the candidate. This exhibits a hive mind mentality.
| Jairzinho | 2009-09-10 02:30:06 PM |
WCHeadhunter: Rann Xerox: RockIsDead: Remember his name when his statement comes true.
Rock is dead....
Rock is dead....
*ADDS RockIsDead TO KILLFILE*
Rock is deeeee-aaaaaaaaad!
Why don't you just put your hands over your ears and start screaming NAH NAH NAH NAH?
It would better suit your age group.
Like conservative talk show host Janet Parshall skillfully desmostrates here
Rock is dead....
Rock is dead....
*ADDS RockIsDead TO KILLFILE*
Rock is deeeee-aaaaaaaaad!
Why don't you just put your hands over your ears and start screaming NAH NAH NAH NAH?
It would better suit your age group.
Like conservative talk show host Janet Parshall skillfully desmostrates here
| Nina_Hartley's_Ass | 2009-09-10 02:30:18 PM |
Wilson just showed the whole country what's really behind all these town hall disruptions. I think a lot of people who were wondering if there was something to worry about are now thinking, "Oh, they're just a bunch of assh*les."
| Cyberluddite
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2009-09-10 02:30:46 PM |
Dr Dreidel: Perhaps, but I visited a liberal friend in central PA - Pennsyltucky - over the weekend who lives in the ideal zombie-apocalypse-shelter location. He's an hour outside Harrisburg (Auburn), and owns an AR-15, a shotgun and a Springfield WWI-era bolt-action. All of which I shot (first time shooting, even).
Yeah, I too am another commie pinko librul socialist who likes guns just fine and hates the knee-jerk gun-grabber contingent. Though it's true that I was raised in Nevada, where if there were anything like an official state religion it would be based on the love of guns rather than the love of Jeebus, so it was pretty much ingrained in me from the very start.
Yeah, I too am another commie pinko librul socialist who likes guns just fine and hates the knee-jerk gun-grabber contingent. Though it's true that I was raised in Nevada, where if there were anything like an official state religion it would be based on the love of guns rather than the love of Jeebus, so it was pretty much ingrained in me from the very start.
| Tissot | 2009-09-10 02:30:50 PM |
In the first 24 hours after Wilson's outburst, Miller's campaign coffers swelled by $200,000, according to Jessica Santillo of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.
| germ78 | 2009-09-10 02:32:27 PM |
m1ke: I think they are more like AstroTurf contributions....
George Soros came to my house, held a gun to my head, gave me $20 and told me to donate it to Rob Miller. It was terrible.
/haven't donated yet
//will after work
George Soros came to my house, held a gun to my head, gave me $20 and told me to donate it to Rob Miller. It was terrible.
/haven't donated yet
//will after work
| FarKnight | 2009-09-10 02:32:50 PM |
He's got nothin on ELWYN
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 02:32:59 PM |
They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
'fraid so.
Anyone know what Wilson'w war chest holds? I'm sure it's millions. Has to be.
'fraid so.
Anyone know what Wilson'w war chest holds? I'm sure it's millions. Has to be.
| Magnetar | 2009-09-10 02:33:45 PM |
I may not agree with your decision to drag humanity down, but I will fight to the death for your right to be phased out by the slow march of progress.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 02:34:19 PM |
Davey Croquette: They would do just as well to stuff that money up a wild hog's ass and yell sooooo-eeee!
'fraid so.
Anyone know what Wilson'w war chest holds? I'm sure it's millions. Has to be.
According to opensecrets.org, it's about $200K and change.
'fraid so.
Anyone know what Wilson'w war chest holds? I'm sure it's millions. Has to be.
According to opensecrets.org, it's about $200K and change.
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 02:34:20 PM |
Giving money to politicians is dumb.
| Jairzinho | 2009-09-10 02:35:17 PM |
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Wilson just showed the whole country what's really behind all these town hall disruptions. I think a lot of people who were wondering if there was something to worry about are now thinking, "Oh, they're just a bunch of assh*les."
So this guy was right after all?
So this guy was right after all?
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 02:35:20 PM |
Jairzinho: *ADDS RockIsDead TO KILLFILE*
Yup. Although I like putting trolls on my favorites list for easy spotting.
Yup. Although I like putting trolls on my favorites list for easy spotting.
| toonz | 2009-09-10 02:35:22 PM |
Davey Croquette: Giving money to politicians is dumb.
I'm going to buy you a beer with the money I save.
I'm going to buy you a beer with the money I save.
| Shaggy_C | 2009-09-10 02:35:35 PM |
what_now: And as he ran in 2008, there is plenty of information about him. Last night, before his campaign website crashed, I found out all about him.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
| FuturePastNow
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2009-09-10 02:35:37 PM |
Like an overweight TFette, his AWing certainly seems to have backfired on him.
| El Pachuco | 2009-09-10 02:35:40 PM |
WCHeadhunter: You're not my adversary. You're just some stupid gash on the internet.
God's the one who gave you a 2-inch penis. Don't take out your rage on strangers on the internets.
God's the one who gave you a 2-inch penis. Don't take out your rage on strangers on the internets.
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 02:35:58 PM |
According to opensecrets.org, it's about $200K and change.
opensecrets is good but far from perfect. Probably close enough, though.
Do we know for sure this new challenger is a blue dog?
opensecrets is good but far from perfect. Probably close enough, though.
Do we know for sure this new challenger is a blue dog?
| Phil Herup | 2009-09-10 02:36:00 PM |
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Wilson just showed the whole country what's really behind all these town hall disruptions. I think a lot of people who were wondering if there was something to worry about are now thinking, "Oh, they're just a bunch of assh*les."
Whenever you want to wake up, let us know.
Sincerely,
People who live in Reality.
Whenever you want to wake up, let us know.
Sincerely,
People who live in Reality.
| kregh99 | 2009-09-10 02:36:17 PM |
what_now: Wilson appeared to consult his Blackberry for much of the rest of Obama's speech. He shook his head defiantly after several of the president's statements. When Obama finished, Wilson bolted from the chamber.
I can only imagine what the emails on his blackberry said.
I can only imagine what the emails on his blackberry said.
| TheJoeY | 2009-09-10 02:37:10 PM |
Davey Croquette: Giving money to politicians is dumb.
I agree completely. We should ban any and all campaign contributions, and let politicians spend only a specific amount of taxpayer-provided money for their campaigns.
I agree completely. We should ban any and all campaign contributions, and let politicians spend only a specific amount of taxpayer-provided money for their campaigns.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 02:37:13 PM |
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 02:37:15 PM |
I'm going to buy you a beer with the money I save.
I take that back: Giving money to politicians is dumb unless it gives you extraordinary access.
For most of us that isn't the case.
I take that back: Giving money to politicians is dumb unless it gives you extraordinary access.
For most of us that isn't the case.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 02:37:37 PM |
Shaggy_C: what_now: And as he ran in 2008, there is plenty of information about him. Last night, before his campaign website crashed, I found out all about him.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
| thenateman | 2009-09-10 02:38:24 PM |
what_now: Because he's the guy that DIDN'T call the President a liar during a national speech.
To be fair, the "you're a liar" talk came from the dais too.
Some of people's concerns have grown out of bogus claims spread by those whose only agenda is to kill reform at any cost. The best example is the claim, made not just by radio and cable talk show hosts, but prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens. Such a charge would be laughable if it weren't so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie, plain and simple.
To be fair, the "you're a liar" talk came from the dais too.
Some of people's concerns have grown out of bogus claims spread by those whose only agenda is to kill reform at any cost. The best example is the claim, made not just by radio and cable talk show hosts, but prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens. Such a charge would be laughable if it weren't so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie, plain and simple.
| Shaggy_C | 2009-09-10 02:39:32 PM |
| bubbaprog
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2009-09-10 02:40:14 PM |
Cyberluddite: knee-jerk gun-grabber contingent
You know there is no such thing, right?
The "gun-grabber" contingent is a figment of the NRA's imagination.
You know there is no such thing, right?
The "gun-grabber" contingent is a figment of the NRA's imagination.
| brukmann | 2009-09-10 02:40:17 PM |
Code_Archeologist: tallguywithglasseson: And how much has Wilson raised from Obama haters? I figured they'd be making him into their hero by now. Wilson/Bachmann '12!
They are trying to... but without much success. The Republicans do not have thequick response grassroots fund raising number of people capable of using our internet infrastructure that the Democrats have.
FTFY
They are trying to... but without much success. The Republicans do not have the
FTFY
| Noam Chimpsky | 2009-09-10 02:41:21 PM |
Jpud73:
But comparing Rob Miller to Lee Harvey Oswald.
Lee Harvey Oswald would be considered a moderate Democrat by today's standards. If Miller supports the Obama commie, then the ideological comparison should be obvious.
But comparing Rob Miller to Lee Harvey Oswald.
Lee Harvey Oswald would be considered a moderate Democrat by today's standards. If Miller supports the Obama commie, then the ideological comparison should be obvious.
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 02:41:27 PM |
and let politicians spend only a specific amount of taxpayer-provided money for their campaigns.
Controlling speech is un-American and there is no reason compelling enough do it. Same with equal time. These are philosophies drudged up by Democrats the minute they want to avoid the consequences of their fiscal behavior.
Controlling speech is un-American and there is no reason compelling enough do it. Same with equal time. These are philosophies drudged up by Democrats the minute they want to avoid the consequences of their fiscal behavior.
| Triaxis | 2009-09-10 02:41:35 PM |
from George Soros..
| woostervariations | 2009-09-10 02:41:43 PM |
Shaggy_C:
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Yes, he does have a website. The problem is that it crashed with the overwhelming number of people who flooded it after the speech. So until things level out to a point that his webpage can support things, its just linked to the ActBlue page.
/350,191
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Yes, he does have a website. The problem is that it crashed with the overwhelming number of people who flooded it after the speech. So until things level out to a point that his webpage can support things, its just linked to the ActBlue page.
/350,191
| RockIsDead | 2009-09-10 02:42:33 PM |
The more "Obama" and "Liar" are tied together the better for everyone.
| I Said
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2009-09-10 02:42:43 PM |
Davey Croquette: and let politicians spend only a specific amount of taxpayer-provided money for their campaigns.
Controlling speech is un-American and there is no reason compelling enough do it. Same with equal time. These are philosophies drudged up by Democrats the minute they want to avoid the consequences of their fiscal behavior.
money should not equal speech, as money is measured in quantity not quality.
Controlling speech is un-American and there is no reason compelling enough do it. Same with equal time. These are philosophies drudged up by Democrats the minute they want to avoid the consequences of their fiscal behavior.
money should not equal speech, as money is measured in quantity not quality.
| mcoctopus | 2009-09-10 02:42:58 PM |
Ironically, Obama later said if he finds someone spreading misinformation he'll call them out. We say likewise.
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 02:43:10 PM |
yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President
Fool.
Money.
Parted.
Fool.
Money.
Parted.
| Shaggy_C | 2009-09-10 02:43:22 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this. I think this Representative Wilson is a prick and deserves all kinds of scorn (and even to be tossed in the next election, for that matter), but I don't think I would in turn donate money to some other faceless Republicrat just to spite him. But, like they say, a fool and their money are soon parted.
I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this. I think this Representative Wilson is a prick and deserves all kinds of scorn (and even to be tossed in the next election, for that matter), but I don't think I would in turn donate money to some other faceless Republicrat just to spite him. But, like they say, a fool and their money are soon parted.
| borg
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2009-09-10 02:43:34 PM |
!3 mos. is a long time in politics, Democrats better stop counting their chickens
| ddam | 2009-09-10 02:43:55 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Shaggy_C: what_now: And as he ran in 2008, there is plenty of information about him. Last night, before his campaign website crashed, I found out all about him.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
This is what happens when you go full retard: people will vote for anyone just because they are not you.
Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
This is what happens when you go full retard: people will vote for anyone just because they are not you.
Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 02:45:09 PM |
ddam: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Shaggy_C: what_now: And as he ran in 2008, there is plenty of information about him. Last night, before his campaign website crashed, I found out all about him.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
This is what happens when you go full retard: people will vote for anyone just because they are not you.
Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
This is what happens when you go full retard: people will vote for anyone just because they are not you.
Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 02:46:07 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
Are you still defending the knuckledragger that interrupted last night's speech?
Really...
Are you still defending the knuckledragger that interrupted last night's speech?
Really...
| toonz | 2009-09-10 02:46:57 PM |
Davey Croquette: I'm going to buy you a beer with the money I save.
I take that back: Giving money to politicians is dumb unless it gives you extraordinary access.
For most of us that isn't the case.
Eh. Still beer-worthy.
I take that back: Giving money to politicians is dumb unless it gives you extraordinary access.
For most of us that isn't the case.
Eh. Still beer-worthy.
| ddam | 2009-09-10 02:47:22 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: ddam: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Shaggy_C: what_now: And as he ran in 2008, there is plenty of information about him. Last night, before his campaign website crashed, I found out all about him.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
This is what happens when you go full retard: people will vote for anyone just because they are not you.
Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
But running on a platform "I'm not the idiot that called the President a liar during the Congressional Address" will get people to vote.
Oh, and it's been proven that in the majority of cases, he (or she) with bigger war chest wins the election.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
This is what happens when you go full retard: people will vote for anyone just because they are not you.
Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
But running on a platform "I'm not the idiot that called the President a liar during the Congressional Address" will get people to vote.
Oh, and it's been proven that in the majority of cases, he (or she) with bigger war chest wins the election.
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 02:47:59 PM |
money should not equal speech, as money is measured in quantity not quality.M
Votes are measured by quantity, also.
Otherwise mine would be worth all of FARK's combined X 10.
A better argument for you to make would be that ca,paign finances should be secret until the election is over. That way you ameliorate the impact of the money without being so harmful to free speech.
But it's not like I'm a paid political strategist or anything.
Votes are measured by quantity, also.
Otherwise mine would be worth all of FARK's combined X 10.
A better argument for you to make would be that ca,paign finances should be secret until the election is over. That way you ameliorate the impact of the money without being so harmful to free speech.
But it's not like I'm a paid political strategist or anything.
| thenateman | 2009-09-10 02:48:12 PM |
ddam: Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Is violating decorum really "full retard"?
Is violating decorum really "full retard"?
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 02:48:30 PM |
whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
Are you still defending the knuckledragger that interrupted last night's speech?
Really...
I have not defended what he said even once. I've said it was stupid for a Congressman to have an outburst like that.
However, on the flip side, it is beyond stupid to blindly donate money to a candidate about which you do not know any facts or positions. To do so at the impetus of a collective of KOS diarists is even more retarded.
I am not defending the stupidity of Rep Wilson, just as you should not defend the stupidity of people donating to a campaign that they cannot vote in and a candidate they know nothing about other than he has a (D) next to his name.
Are you still defending the knuckledragger that interrupted last night's speech?
Really...
I have not defended what he said even once. I've said it was stupid for a Congressman to have an outburst like that.
However, on the flip side, it is beyond stupid to blindly donate money to a candidate about which you do not know any facts or positions. To do so at the impetus of a collective of KOS diarists is even more retarded.
I am not defending the stupidity of Rep Wilson, just as you should not defend the stupidity of people donating to a campaign that they cannot vote in and a candidate they know nothing about other than he has a (D) next to his name.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 02:49:09 PM |
toonz: Davey Croquette: I'm going to buy you a beer with the money I save.
I take that back: Giving money to politicians is dumb unless it gives you extraordinary access.
For most of us that isn't the case.
Eh. Still beer-worthy.
I'd be happy to buy you a beer if you'd stop quoting that troll. Maybe two.
I take that back: Giving money to politicians is dumb unless it gives you extraordinary access.
For most of us that isn't the case.
Eh. Still beer-worthy.
I'd be happy to buy you a beer if you'd stop quoting that troll. Maybe two.
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 02:49:21 PM |
Eh. Still beer-worthy.
See if you can get that TallyGirl farker to come along.
See if you can get that TallyGirl farker to come along.
| InferiousX
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2009-09-10 02:49:56 PM |
thenateman: ddam: Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Is violating decorum really "full retard"?
Yelling out something that's a half step above "liar liar pants on fire" while the effing president is speaking is pretty retarded.
Is violating decorum really "full retard"?
Yelling out something that's a half step above "liar liar pants on fire" while the effing president is speaking is pretty retarded.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 02:50:00 PM |
ddam: The_Six_Fingered_Man: ddam: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Shaggy_C: what_now: And as he ran in 2008, there is plenty of information about him. Last night, before his campaign website crashed, I found out all about him.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
This is what happens when you go full retard: people will vote for anyone just because they are not you.
Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
But running on a platform "I'm not the idiot that called the President a liar during the Congressional Address" will get people to vote.
Oh, and it's been proven that in the majority of cases, he (or she) with bigger war chest wins the election.
And in 14 months, no one will remember. Mr. Miller could bring it up in attack ads, if that's his style. But to the electorate of the SC-2, I doubt that this will be seen as a huge negative in Nov 2010.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
This is what happens when you go full retard: people will vote for anyone just because they are not you.
Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
But running on a platform "I'm not the idiot that called the President a liar during the Congressional Address" will get people to vote.
Oh, and it's been proven that in the majority of cases, he (or she) with bigger war chest wins the election.
And in 14 months, no one will remember. Mr. Miller could bring it up in attack ads, if that's his style. But to the electorate of the SC-2, I doubt that this will be seen as a huge negative in Nov 2010.
| Shaggy_C | 2009-09-10 02:50:21 PM |
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 02:51:00 PM |
\I'd be happy to buy you a beer if you'd stop quoting that troll. Maybe two.
Whid, don't be so hurt.
There's barely a farker I haven't raked over the coals. You're no different. Just forget about it. A grudge is unhealthy for your prostate.
Whid, don't be so hurt.
There's barely a farker I haven't raked over the coals. You're no different. Just forget about it. A grudge is unhealthy for your prostate.
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 02:52:34 PM |
Second that.
I'm worried about your prostate, too.
I'm worried about your prostate, too.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 02:53:03 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
Are you still defending the knuckledragger that interrupted last night's speech?
Really...
I have not defended what he said even once. I've said it was stupid for a Congressman to have an outburst like that.
However, on the flip side, it is beyond stupid to blindly donate money to a candidate about which you do not know any facts or positions. To do so at the impetus of a collective of KOS diarists is even more retarded.
I am not defending the stupidity of Rep Wilson, just as you should not defend the stupidity of people donating to a campaign that they cannot vote in and a candidate they know nothing about other than he has a (D) next to his name.
Nothing stupid about it. It sends a message to Wilson that if he's so content to act like a childish Freeper, then he should be voted out of office.
If Miller is the only opponent in the race, then he gets the lucky draw.
I've yet to see any proof from you or ShaggyC that Miller is a Blue Dog or for that matter any dirt whatsoever.
Consider them donations made out of spite, if you will. As long as it f*cks Wilson's world, I'd say the efforts are worth it.
Are you still defending the knuckledragger that interrupted last night's speech?
Really...
I have not defended what he said even once. I've said it was stupid for a Congressman to have an outburst like that.
However, on the flip side, it is beyond stupid to blindly donate money to a candidate about which you do not know any facts or positions. To do so at the impetus of a collective of KOS diarists is even more retarded.
I am not defending the stupidity of Rep Wilson, just as you should not defend the stupidity of people donating to a campaign that they cannot vote in and a candidate they know nothing about other than he has a (D) next to his name.
Nothing stupid about it. It sends a message to Wilson that if he's so content to act like a childish Freeper, then he should be voted out of office.
If Miller is the only opponent in the race, then he gets the lucky draw.
I've yet to see any proof from you or ShaggyC that Miller is a Blue Dog or for that matter any dirt whatsoever.
Consider them donations made out of spite, if you will. As long as it f*cks Wilson's world, I'd say the efforts are worth it.
| merkinpeeble | 2009-09-10 02:53:21 PM |
Davey Croquette: Giving money to politicians is dumb.
In fact, over his entire congressional career, health professionals represent Wilson's top industry contributors, donating a total of $244,196 to his campaign, according to the Center for Responsive Politics OpenSecrets.org database. He received another $86,150 from pharmaceutical companies, $73,050 from insurance companies and $68,000 from hospitals and nursing homes.
Dumb.
In fact, over his entire congressional career, health professionals represent Wilson's top industry contributors, donating a total of $244,196 to his campaign, according to the Center for Responsive Politics OpenSecrets.org database. He received another $86,150 from pharmaceutical companies, $73,050 from insurance companies and $68,000 from hospitals and nursing homes.
Dumb.
| InferiousX
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2009-09-10 02:54:02 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: However, on the flip side, it is beyond stupid to blindly donate money to a candidate about which you do not know any facts or positions. To do so at the impetus of a collective of KOS diarists is even more retarded.
Look at it this way:
It's not so much a statement of "pro this random democrat" rather it is a strong statement (made with money, the loudest of all orators) that this childish foot-stomping that the right has been doing a lot of lately, is NOT ok and it's not how the American people want their representatives doing business.
Look at it as "anti-ridiculous behavior" and you'll feel better.
I think.
Look at it this way:
It's not so much a statement of "pro this random democrat" rather it is a strong statement (made with money, the loudest of all orators) that this childish foot-stomping that the right has been doing a lot of lately, is NOT ok and it's not how the American people want their representatives doing business.
Look at it as "anti-ridiculous behavior" and you'll feel better.
I think.
| IdBeCrazyIf | 2009-09-10 02:54:09 PM |
UNCPWAD: NC still wins hands down for gerrymandering
Holy shiat, and I thought Indiana was bad with how they divided up around Indy
Holy shiat, and I thought Indiana was bad with how they divided up around Indy
| I Said
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2009-09-10 02:54:51 PM |
Davey Croquette: A better argument for you to make would be that ca,paign finances should be secret until the election is over. That way you ameliorate the impact of the money without being so harmful to free speech.
But it's not like I'm a paid political strategist or anything.
Sorry, I'm lost as to how less transparency, especially in this situation, is a good thing. Wouldn't a voter want to know which group, some they like and some they don't, are supporting who?
And my original point about speech and money: You're right and I wasn't clear. My point is that removing limits on the money people can donate (especially non-person-persons like corporations) essentially hands wealthy people a larger voice in the political process.
But it's not like I'm a paid political strategist or anything.
Sorry, I'm lost as to how less transparency, especially in this situation, is a good thing. Wouldn't a voter want to know which group, some they like and some they don't, are supporting who?
And my original point about speech and money: You're right and I wasn't clear. My point is that removing limits on the money people can donate (especially non-person-persons like corporations) essentially hands wealthy people a larger voice in the political process.
| ddam | 2009-09-10 02:55:29 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: ddam: The_Six_Fingered_Man: ddam: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Shaggy_C: what_now: And as he ran in 2008, there is plenty of information about him. Last night, before his campaign website crashed, I found out all about him.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
This is what happens when you go full retard: people will vote for anyone just because they are not you.
Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
But running on a platform "I'm not the idiot that called the President a liar during the Congressional Address" will get people to vote.
Oh, and it's been proven that in the majority of cases, he (or she) with bigger war chest wins the election.
And in 14 months, no one will remember. Mr. Miller could bring it up in attack ads, if that's his style. But to the electorate of the SC-2, I doubt that this will be seen as a huge negative in Nov 2010.
If the bill passes and people like it then anyone against it would be in danger of losing their seats especially those that have yelled the loudest against it.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
This is what happens when you go full retard: people will vote for anyone just because they are not you.
Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
But running on a platform "I'm not the idiot that called the President a liar during the Congressional Address" will get people to vote.
Oh, and it's been proven that in the majority of cases, he (or she) with bigger war chest wins the election.
And in 14 months, no one will remember. Mr. Miller could bring it up in attack ads, if that's his style. But to the electorate of the SC-2, I doubt that this will be seen as a huge negative in Nov 2010.
If the bill passes and people like it then anyone against it would be in danger of losing their seats especially those that have yelled the loudest against it.
| WhyteRaven74
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2009-09-10 02:55:47 PM |
whistleridge: upload.wikimedia.org
woot, one has Cicero, that's where I grew up!
/no, I'm actually not particularly proud of that
woot, one has Cicero, that's where I grew up!
/no, I'm actually not particularly proud of that
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 02:56:09 PM |
whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
Are you still defending the knuckledragger that interrupted last night's speech?
Really...
I have not defended what he said even once. I've said it was stupid for a Congressman to have an outburst like that.
However, on the flip side, it is beyond stupid to blindly donate money to a candidate about which you do not know any facts or positions. To do so at the impetus of a collective of KOS diarists is even more retarded.
I am not defending the stupidity of Rep Wilson, just as you should not defend the stupidity of people donating to a campaign that they cannot vote in and a candidate they know nothing about other than he has a (D) next to his name.
Nothing stupid about it. It sends a message to Wilson that if he's so content to act like a childish Freeper, then he should be voted out of office.
If Miller is the only opponent in the race, then he gets the lucky draw.
I've yet to see any proof from you or ShaggyC that Miller is a Blue Dog or for that matter any dirt whatsoever.
Consider them donations made out of spite, if you will. As long as it f*cks Wilson's world, I'd say the efforts are worth it.
I can't provide "proof" considering I can't find a shred of information on this guy other than his picture and the fact that he's a Democrat running for a traditionally Republican seat. I've never intimated that he's a Blue Dog, only that at this point, I don't know anything about the guy and I would venture a guess that most people donating to him don't either.
But yeah, go with spite as an impetus to donate money to a candidate. I'm sure that emotion and not knowledge will win out in the end.
Why am I surprised? Democrats are a spiteful bunch.
Are you still defending the knuckledragger that interrupted last night's speech?
Really...
I have not defended what he said even once. I've said it was stupid for a Congressman to have an outburst like that.
However, on the flip side, it is beyond stupid to blindly donate money to a candidate about which you do not know any facts or positions. To do so at the impetus of a collective of KOS diarists is even more retarded.
I am not defending the stupidity of Rep Wilson, just as you should not defend the stupidity of people donating to a campaign that they cannot vote in and a candidate they know nothing about other than he has a (D) next to his name.
Nothing stupid about it. It sends a message to Wilson that if he's so content to act like a childish Freeper, then he should be voted out of office.
If Miller is the only opponent in the race, then he gets the lucky draw.
I've yet to see any proof from you or ShaggyC that Miller is a Blue Dog or for that matter any dirt whatsoever.
Consider them donations made out of spite, if you will. As long as it f*cks Wilson's world, I'd say the efforts are worth it.
I can't provide "proof" considering I can't find a shred of information on this guy other than his picture and the fact that he's a Democrat running for a traditionally Republican seat. I've never intimated that he's a Blue Dog, only that at this point, I don't know anything about the guy and I would venture a guess that most people donating to him don't either.
But yeah, go with spite as an impetus to donate money to a candidate. I'm sure that emotion and not knowledge will win out in the end.
Why am I surprised? Democrats are a spiteful bunch.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 02:56:43 PM |
And I was about to feed the troll myself, thank bob I deleted the post.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 02:58:09 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Why am I surprised? Democrats PEOPLE are a spiteful bunch.
Why do you feel the need to make yourself look even more of a partisan stooge by saying that?
Why do you feel the need to make yourself look even more of a partisan stooge by saying that?
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 02:58:35 PM |
ddam: The_Six_Fingered_Man: ddam: The_Six_Fingered_Man: ddam: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Shaggy_C: what_now: And as he ran in 2008, there is plenty of information about him. Last night, before his campaign website crashed, I found out all about him.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
This is what happens when you go full retard: people will vote for anyone just because they are not you.
Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
But running on a platform "I'm not the idiot that called the President a liar during the Congressional Address" will get people to vote.
Oh, and it's been proven that in the majority of cases, he (or she) with bigger war chest wins the election.
And in 14 months, no one will remember. Mr. Miller could bring it up in attack ads, if that's his style. But to the electorate of the SC-2, I doubt that this will be seen as a huge negative in Nov 2010.
If the bill passes and people like it then anyone against it would be in danger of losing their seats especially those that have yelled the loudest against it.
And if the bill passes and illegal immigrants find a way to still receive medical care for reduced prices or for free afterward, I am positive that Rep. Wilson will be proud to show that he called the President out.
What Rep. Wilson said was stupid, inappropriate given the time and place, and will likely have SOME effect on his re-election bid. What matters is how the bill is presented and if it works the way that the President and Congress say they want it to work.
So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
Not only that, but his Project Vote Smart page is gone, his wiki is abhorrent, and the opencongress wiki isn't any better. At this particular moment, you cannot get adequate information about Mr. Miller, yet here they are, donating to his campaign cause someone stupidly yelled at the President during prime time and they feel as though they might get some vindication by this guy beating the Republican incumbent in a mid-term election.
This is what happens when you go full retard: people will vote for anyone just because they are not you.
Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Donations != votes. I would guess that no more than .5% of the money donated in the past 10 hours is from within his district. You can have all the money in the world and still not have any ideas. See: Ross Perot.
But running on a platform "I'm not the idiot that called the President a liar during the Congressional Address" will get people to vote.
Oh, and it's been proven that in the majority of cases, he (or she) with bigger war chest wins the election.
And in 14 months, no one will remember. Mr. Miller could bring it up in attack ads, if that's his style. But to the electorate of the SC-2, I doubt that this will be seen as a huge negative in Nov 2010.
If the bill passes and people like it then anyone against it would be in danger of losing their seats especially those that have yelled the loudest against it.
And if the bill passes and illegal immigrants find a way to still receive medical care for reduced prices or for free afterward, I am positive that Rep. Wilson will be proud to show that he called the President out.
What Rep. Wilson said was stupid, inappropriate given the time and place, and will likely have SOME effect on his re-election bid. What matters is how the bill is presented and if it works the way that the President and Congress say they want it to work.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:00:02 PM |
whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Why am I surprised? Democrats PEOPLE are a spiteful bunch.
Why do you feel the need to make yourself look even more of a partisan stooge by saying that?
Because it doesn't matter what I say? I have an (R) next to my name, therefore here on Fark, I am already a partisan stooge, birther, gay (but in the closet), and a teabagger, regardless of my actual positions.
Why do you feel the need to make yourself look even more of a partisan stooge by saying that?
Because it doesn't matter what I say? I have an (R) next to my name, therefore here on Fark, I am already a partisan stooge, birther, gay (but in the closet), and a teabagger, regardless of my actual positions.
| Shaggy_C | 2009-09-10 03:00:48 PM |
Anyone else see this as a real-life example straight out of idiocracy?
President Camacho: shiat. I know shiat's bad right now, with all that starving bullshiat, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.
South Carolina Representative # 1: That's what you said last time, dipshiat!
South Carolina Representative # 2: Yeah, I got a solution, you're a dick! South Carolina, what's up!
President Obama: There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms -
South Carolina Representative # 1: You lie!
South Carolina Representative # 2: South Carolina, what's up!
President Camacho: shiat. I know shiat's bad right now, with all that starving bullshiat, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.
South Carolina Representative # 1: That's what you said last time, dipshiat!
South Carolina Representative # 2: Yeah, I got a solution, you're a dick! South Carolina, what's up!
President Obama: There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms -
South Carolina Representative # 1: You lie!
South Carolina Representative # 2: South Carolina, what's up!
| The Only Good Moran | 2009-09-10 03:01:27 PM |
thenateman: Johnny Swank: $330K, and counting. $5K in the last 5 minutes.
Jebus!
I wonder if these people take an equally hard-line stance against booing, or if it's only fully formed words that grind their gears.
RockIsDead: HAHA!
You could blastpheme Jesus and not get such a vitriolic response from the most die-hard Christians!
Show us your obsessive adoration, Obots!
Cat Food Sandwiches: I'm thinking either: A fool and his money are soon parted or there's a sucker born every minute.
RockIsDead: The more "Obama" and "Liar" are tied together the better for everyone.
Republicans: Justifying their hatred since day one.
Jebus!
I wonder if these people take an equally hard-line stance against booing, or if it's only fully formed words that grind their gears.
RockIsDead: HAHA!
You could blastpheme Jesus and not get such a vitriolic response from the most die-hard Christians!
Show us your obsessive adoration, Obots!
Cat Food Sandwiches: I'm thinking either: A fool and his money are soon parted or there's a sucker born every minute.
RockIsDead: The more "Obama" and "Liar" are tied together the better for everyone.
Republicans: Justifying their hatred since day one.
| thenateman | 2009-09-10 03:02:15 PM |
InferiousX: thenateman: ddam: Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Is violating decorum really "full retard"?
Yelling out something that's a half step above "liar liar pants on fire" while the effing president is speaking is pretty retarded.
Ever watch the British parliament? How about the prime minister's questions? They shout at each other all the time. It's not disrespectful, it's indicative of a spirited debate.
How about all those times presidents have been booed during addresses to Congress? Was that OK, or are you only enraged by full words?
How about the president calling "several prominent politicians" liars during his address? Was that OK, or is it never OK for a politician to be called a liar?
I don't doubt that Wilson screwed up. He knew he screwed up, he was told he screwed up, and he offered the insta-apology. (Which was accepted.)
At its core, this is an issue of someone who briefly violating established social rules of conduct, then corrected his behavior. But it's being exploited for political gain, which is par for the course.
/Speech code theory (new window)
Is violating decorum really "full retard"?
Yelling out something that's a half step above "liar liar pants on fire" while the effing president is speaking is pretty retarded.
Ever watch the British parliament? How about the prime minister's questions? They shout at each other all the time. It's not disrespectful, it's indicative of a spirited debate.
How about all those times presidents have been booed during addresses to Congress? Was that OK, or are you only enraged by full words?
How about the president calling "several prominent politicians" liars during his address? Was that OK, or is it never OK for a politician to be called a liar?
I don't doubt that Wilson screwed up. He knew he screwed up, he was told he screwed up, and he offered the insta-apology. (Which was accepted.)
At its core, this is an issue of someone who briefly violating established social rules of conduct, then corrected his behavior. But it's being exploited for political gain, which is par for the course.
/Speech code theory (new window)
| DarnoKonrad | 2009-09-10 03:02:44 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: But yeah, go with spite as an impetus to donate money to a candidate. I'm sure that emotion and not knowledge will win out in the end.
Democrats spent many years patting themselves on the back because they play fair and nice. They also did it while the RNC controlled the national debate for 30 years.
Politics is not, and never was, about merely 'supporting the best candidate for the best job' based on the good facts and sound convictions.
That's noble and junk, but at the end of the day, the ones who control the debate, control national policy.
I appreciate you and Shaggy's political asceticism, but I don't think it's useful.
Democrats spent many years patting themselves on the back because they play fair and nice. They also did it while the RNC controlled the national debate for 30 years.
Politics is not, and never was, about merely 'supporting the best candidate for the best job' based on the good facts and sound convictions.
That's noble and junk, but at the end of the day, the ones who control the debate, control national policy.
I appreciate you and Shaggy's political asceticism, but I don't think it's useful.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 03:05:37 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Because it doesn't matter what I say? I have an (R) next to my name, therefore here on Fark, I am already a partisan stooge, birther, gay (but in the closet), and a teabagger, regardless of my actual positions.
Of course it matters.
You can either make a difference by thinking for yourself, or not by continuing to ape and defend the other Freepers, which you're apparently still reticent to outright kick out of your party, given your tendency to argue their points for them.
Of course it matters.
You can either make a difference by thinking for yourself, or not by continuing to ape and defend the other Freepers, which you're apparently still reticent to outright kick out of your party, given your tendency to argue their points for them.
| wage0048 | 2009-09-10 03:06:18 PM |
DarnoKonrad: wage0048: That said, this guy ought to be censured beaten in the next election.
Don't make a martyr out of his dumb ass.
No need to make a martyr out of him. Just make him stand before the entire assembled House of Reps and have the Speaker of the House read a proclamation approved by a majority of the members admonishing him for his outburst. At that time, he'd be directed to return to his seat and get on with his work until he loses the next election.
Don't make a martyr out of his dumb ass.
No need to make a martyr out of him. Just make him stand before the entire assembled House of Reps and have the Speaker of the House read a proclamation approved by a majority of the members admonishing him for his outburst. At that time, he'd be directed to return to his seat and get on with his work until he loses the next election.
| bassmonkeee | 2009-09-10 03:06:58 PM |
Even someone considered a "blue dog" getting elected in SC is a huge victory. Wilson votes the party line 95% of the time. If Miller votes with the Democrats even 50% of the time, it's easy to see the gain. Nevermind that caucusing with the Democrats increases their foothold on control of the House, and can counter the inevitable loss of seat of a vulnerable Dem to the GOP.
There is no downside here.
There is no downside here.
| thenateman | 2009-09-10 03:07:50 PM |
wage0048: No need to make a martyr out of him. Just make him stand before the entire assembled House of Reps and have the Speaker of the House read a proclamation approved by a majority of the members admonishing him for his outburst. At that time, he'd be directed to return to his seat and get on with his work until he loses the next election.
That's within the speaker's power. Do you think she'll do it?
That's within the speaker's power. Do you think she'll do it?
| sabreWulf07 | 2009-09-10 03:08:26 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: it is beyond stupid to blindly donate money to a candidate about which you do not know any facts or positions. To do so at the impetus of a collective of KOS diarists is even more retarded.
Can people do it at the impetus of being furious that a member of the US Congress would be so shockingly disrespectful to the office of the President of the United States, so contemptuous of the rules of order and thus the foundations of our democracy? How about just not wanting the guy in Congress anymore? He effectively stood up in the middle of a nationally televised presidential address to wipe his ass with the US flag - maybe it doesn't have to be "beyond stupid" to have a little pride in America and her ideals? Wilson has proven he doesn't.
Can people do it at the impetus of being furious that a member of the US Congress would be so shockingly disrespectful to the office of the President of the United States, so contemptuous of the rules of order and thus the foundations of our democracy? How about just not wanting the guy in Congress anymore? He effectively stood up in the middle of a nationally televised presidential address to wipe his ass with the US flag - maybe it doesn't have to be "beyond stupid" to have a little pride in America and her ideals? Wilson has proven he doesn't.
| Shaggy_C | 2009-09-10 03:08:35 PM |
whidbey: I've yet to see any proof from you or ShaggyC that Miller is a Blue Dog or for that matter any dirt whatsoever.
I was making my comment out of a position of ignorance, as there is no information about this Mr. Miller out there anywhere. Just because he's a Democrat does not make him 'good', which is why I cautioned about the possibility of him being a blue dog. Better safe than sorry, from my point of view.
I was making my comment out of a position of ignorance, as there is no information about this Mr. Miller out there anywhere. Just because he's a Democrat does not make him 'good', which is why I cautioned about the possibility of him being a blue dog. Better safe than sorry, from my point of view.
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 03:08:50 PM |
Sorry, I'm lost as to how less transparency, especially in this situation, is a good thing.
"Good" isn't a factor in politics because it's too subjective. I was getting you where you wanted to be with regard to political speech. Good? No.Would it fly? Easier than gov't financed campaigns.
Wouldn't a voter want to know which group, some they like and some they don't, are supporting who?
If we limit campaign financing they will never learn that either. We gauge support by $$ raised.
My point is that removing limits on the money people can donate (especially non-person-persons like corporations) essentially hands wealthy people a larger voice in the political process.
My experience tells me differently but that's OK. I'd say it's "who" you are not how much $$ you donate. Because it's gotten to the point where so many special interest groups will pay everyone, both sides, anything they want. It's a practical matter. Say, the Sierra Club gives $1k to every member of the Florida Senate. No one can accuse them OR the congress of taking influence and since today's minorities in politics are tomorrow's majority it never pays to exclude ANY policy maker.
Contributions are like an admission fee. Once you're in you gotta rely on other strengths.
"Good" isn't a factor in politics because it's too subjective. I was getting you where you wanted to be with regard to political speech. Good? No.Would it fly? Easier than gov't financed campaigns.
Wouldn't a voter want to know which group, some they like and some they don't, are supporting who?
If we limit campaign financing they will never learn that either. We gauge support by $$ raised.
My point is that removing limits on the money people can donate (especially non-person-persons like corporations) essentially hands wealthy people a larger voice in the political process.
My experience tells me differently but that's OK. I'd say it's "who" you are not how much $$ you donate. Because it's gotten to the point where so many special interest groups will pay everyone, both sides, anything they want. It's a practical matter. Say, the Sierra Club gives $1k to every member of the Florida Senate. No one can accuse them OR the congress of taking influence and since today's minorities in politics are tomorrow's majority it never pays to exclude ANY policy maker.
Contributions are like an admission fee. Once you're in you gotta rely on other strengths.
| bad_ed | 2009-09-10 03:08:53 PM |
Shaggy_C: Anyone else see this as a real-life example straight out of idiocracy?
I was thinking that this morning, but the post count was far to high for me to say anything. Maybe Mr. Wilson has a bright future as a pilot or something.
I was thinking that this morning, but the post count was far to high for me to say anything. Maybe Mr. Wilson has a bright future as a pilot or something.
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 03:09:05 PM |
Rush is saying Miller is $400,000 in debt, so of course the Freepers are laughing at how these donations will do nothing but pay off parts of his debt. In the time it took me to type this, he probably raised another $30,000 though, so he'll be debt free by dinner at this rate.
| DarnoKonrad | 2009-09-10 03:09:27 PM |
wage0048: DarnoKonrad: wage0048: That said, this guy ought to be censured beaten in the next election.
Don't make a martyr out of his dumb ass.
No need to make a martyr out of him. Just make him stand before the entire assembled House of Reps and have the Speaker of the House read a proclamation approved by a majority of the members admonishing him for his outburst. At that time, he'd be directed to return to his seat and get on with his work until he loses the next election.
And it would spawn another wingnut-o-sphere shiat storm about Pelosi picking on Republicans. Though, that might not be a bad thing.
Don't make a martyr out of his dumb ass.
No need to make a martyr out of him. Just make him stand before the entire assembled House of Reps and have the Speaker of the House read a proclamation approved by a majority of the members admonishing him for his outburst. At that time, he'd be directed to return to his seat and get on with his work until he loses the next election.
And it would spawn another wingnut-o-sphere shiat storm about Pelosi picking on Republicans. Though, that might not be a bad thing.
| whereisian | 2009-09-10 03:10:01 PM |
thenateman: Ever watch the British parliament? How about the prime minister's questions? They shout at each other all the time. It's not disrespectful, it's indicative of a spirited debate.
That's called question period. That doesn't happen during a PM's address.
That's called question period. That doesn't happen during a PM's address.
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-09-10 03:10:05 PM |
Davey Croquette: There's barely a farker I haven't raked over the coals. You're no different. Just forget about it. A grudge is unhealthy for your prostate.
An unusual method you adopt.
An unusual method you adopt.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 03:10:20 PM |
Shaggy_C: which is why I cautioned about the possibility of him being a blue dog. Better safe than sorry, from my point of view.
Isn't there an actual list of who constitutes Blue Dogs in Congress? I thought there were...main offenders.
Isn't there an actual list of who constitutes Blue Dogs in Congress? I thought there were...main offenders.
| ddam | 2009-09-10 03:10:40 PM |
thenateman: InferiousX: thenateman: ddam: Going full retard will make rational people on your side switch sides.
Is violating decorum really "full retard"?
Yelling out something that's a half step above "liar liar pants on fire" while the effing president is speaking is pretty retarded.
Ever watch the British parliament? How about the prime minister's questions? They shout at each other all the time. It's not disrespectful, it's indicative of a spirited debate.
How about all those times presidents have been booed during addresses to Congress? Was that OK, or are you only enraged by full words?
How about the president calling "several prominent politicians" liars during his address? Was that OK, or is it never OK for a politician to be called a liar?
I don't doubt that Wilson screwed up. He knew he screwed up, he was told he screwed up, and he offered the insta-apology. (Which was accepted.)
At its core, this is an issue of someone who briefly violating established social rules of conduct, then corrected his behavior. But it's being exploited for political gain, which is par for the course.
/Speech code theory (new window)
While the British parliament has different decorum rules it doesn't mean that they should be applied to how politicians behave in the US.
And calling Palin and any other politician that supports the "death panel" a liar is wrong? It's been proven that "death panels" do not exist in the bill yet people still yet it. Why not call them out as the liars that they are?
As far as him knowing he screwed up... good. Now he'll learn that some screwups end up costing the job he has. He's free to say whatever he wants at any time he wants but there are consequences.
Is violating decorum really "full retard"?
Yelling out something that's a half step above "liar liar pants on fire" while the effing president is speaking is pretty retarded.
Ever watch the British parliament? How about the prime minister's questions? They shout at each other all the time. It's not disrespectful, it's indicative of a spirited debate.
How about all those times presidents have been booed during addresses to Congress? Was that OK, or are you only enraged by full words?
How about the president calling "several prominent politicians" liars during his address? Was that OK, or is it never OK for a politician to be called a liar?
I don't doubt that Wilson screwed up. He knew he screwed up, he was told he screwed up, and he offered the insta-apology. (Which was accepted.)
At its core, this is an issue of someone who briefly violating established social rules of conduct, then corrected his behavior. But it's being exploited for political gain, which is par for the course.
/Speech code theory (new window)
While the British parliament has different decorum rules it doesn't mean that they should be applied to how politicians behave in the US.
And calling Palin and any other politician that supports the "death panel" a liar is wrong? It's been proven that "death panels" do not exist in the bill yet people still yet it. Why not call them out as the liars that they are?
As far as him knowing he screwed up... good. Now he'll learn that some screwups end up costing the job he has. He's free to say whatever he wants at any time he wants but there are consequences.
| what_now
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2009-09-10 03:11:52 PM |
Shaggy_C: So he actually does have a website? I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page. Seemed kind of shady to me! Especially since the primaries haven't even started yet for 2010...But if he's a decent guy, cool. I would probably wait to see who the actual opponent is before donating, but I don't get caught up in this hype. I'm real fun at parties.
His server crashed and has been re-directed.
His server crashed and has been re-directed.
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-09-10 03:12:18 PM |
whereisian: thenateman: Ever watch the British parliament? How about the prime minister's questions? They shout at each other all the time. It's not disrespectful, it's indicative of a spirited debate.
That's called Question [edit: Time]. That doesn't happen during a PM's address.
Mild edit above.
Also, calling an MP a liar in the House will get you suspended immediately.
That's called Question [edit: Time]. That doesn't happen during a PM's address.
Mild edit above.
Also, calling an MP a liar in the House will get you suspended immediately.
| barneyfifesbullet | 2009-09-10 03:12:32 PM |
has received nearly 3,000 individual grassroots contributions raising approximately $100,000
So, Dems are trying to buy the seat? That used to be a bad thing.
Won't work, though. If you look around online, the people in SC (who actually live there, not some Berkley hippies) tend to agree that Obama is a liar.
Whatever, it's a fun show to watch anyway.
So, Dems are trying to buy the seat? That used to be a bad thing.
Won't work, though. If you look around online, the people in SC (who actually live there, not some Berkley hippies) tend to agree that Obama is a liar.
Whatever, it's a fun show to watch anyway.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:12:46 PM |
sabreWulf07: The_Six_Fingered_Man: it is beyond stupid to blindly donate money to a candidate about which you do not know any facts or positions. To do so at the impetus of a collective of KOS diarists is even more retarded.
Can people do it at the impetus of being furious that a member of the US Congress would be so shockingly disrespectful to the office of the President of the United States, so contemptuous of the rules of order and thus the foundations of our democracy? How about just not wanting the guy in Congress anymore? He effectively stood up in the middle of a nationally televised presidential address to wipe his ass with the US flag - maybe it doesn't have to be "beyond stupid" to have a little pride in America and her ideals? Wilson has proven he doesn't.
He effectively wiped his ass with the US flag? Really? Obtuse much? If anything, he exercised his basic right to free speech.
Can people do it at the impetus of being furious that a member of the US Congress would be so shockingly disrespectful to the office of the President of the United States, so contemptuous of the rules of order and thus the foundations of our democracy? How about just not wanting the guy in Congress anymore? He effectively stood up in the middle of a nationally televised presidential address to wipe his ass with the US flag - maybe it doesn't have to be "beyond stupid" to have a little pride in America and her ideals? Wilson has proven he doesn't.
He effectively wiped his ass with the US flag? Really? Obtuse much? If anything, he exercised his basic right to free speech.
| kellecaster | 2009-09-10 03:13:17 PM |
http://www.actblue.com/page/kossacks4miller
| thenateman | 2009-09-10 03:13:42 PM |
sabreWulf07: Can people do it at the impetus of being furious that a member of the US Congress would be so shockingly disrespectful to the office of the President of the United States, so contemptuous of the rules of order and thus the foundations of our democracy?
I'm trying to read through your hyperbole? Are you saying the rules of order are the foundation of democracy, because they weren't published until 1876. Or is our democracy founded on never disrespecting the president? I'm even wondering why you found the word "liar" shockingly disrespectful. You have seen Congress booing the president in a speech, haven't you?
I'm trying to read through your hyperbole? Are you saying the rules of order are the foundation of democracy, because they weren't published until 1876. Or is our democracy founded on never disrespecting the president? I'm even wondering why you found the word "liar" shockingly disrespectful. You have seen Congress booing the president in a speech, haven't you?
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 03:14:36 PM |
| ddam | 2009-09-10 03:14:45 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: sabreWulf07: The_Six_Fingered_Man: it is beyond stupid to blindly donate money to a candidate about which you do not know any facts or positions. To do so at the impetus of a collective of KOS diarists is even more retarded.
Can people do it at the impetus of being furious that a member of the US Congress would be so shockingly disrespectful to the office of the President of the United States, so contemptuous of the rules of order and thus the foundations of our democracy? How about just not wanting the guy in Congress anymore? He effectively stood up in the middle of a nationally televised presidential address to wipe his ass with the US flag - maybe it doesn't have to be "beyond stupid" to have a little pride in America and her ideals? Wilson has proven he doesn't.
He effectively wiped his ass with the US flag? Really? Obtuse much? If anything, he exercised his basic right to free speech.
Free speech doesn't mean free of consequences. If the consequence is that he loses his job in 2010 at least he can feel warm inside that he excercised his free speech right.
Can people do it at the impetus of being furious that a member of the US Congress would be so shockingly disrespectful to the office of the President of the United States, so contemptuous of the rules of order and thus the foundations of our democracy? How about just not wanting the guy in Congress anymore? He effectively stood up in the middle of a nationally televised presidential address to wipe his ass with the US flag - maybe it doesn't have to be "beyond stupid" to have a little pride in America and her ideals? Wilson has proven he doesn't.
He effectively wiped his ass with the US flag? Really? Obtuse much? If anything, he exercised his basic right to free speech.
Free speech doesn't mean free of consequences. If the consequence is that he loses his job in 2010 at least he can feel warm inside that he excercised his free speech right.
| Shaggy_C | 2009-09-10 03:14:46 PM |
whidbey: Isn't there an actual list of who constitutes Blue Dogs in Congress? I thought there were...main offenders.
The Blue Dogs are an official group, they've got over 50 members in congress. I don't take any Democrat from a conservative district for granted.
The Blue Dogs are an official group, they've got over 50 members in congress. I don't take any Democrat from a conservative district for granted.
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 03:14:59 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: He effectively wiped his ass with the US flag? Really? Obtuse much? If anything, he exercised his basic right to free speech.
Wouldn't wiping your ass with the US flag be exercising your basic right to free speech?
Wouldn't wiping your ass with the US flag be exercising your basic right to free speech?
| whereisian | 2009-09-10 03:15:45 PM |
PartTimeBuddha: whereisian: thenateman: Ever watch the British parliament? How about the prime minister's questions? They shout at each other all the time. It's not disrespectful, it's indicative of a spirited debate.
That's called Question [edit: Time]. That doesn't happen during a PM's address.
Mild edit above.
Also, calling an MP a liar in the House will get you suspended immediately.
Oops, my bad. It's Question Period here in Canuckistan.
In QP, you can pretty much say anything and it's farking disgraceful what comes out of some MPs mouths.
That's called Question [edit: Time]. That doesn't happen during a PM's address.
Mild edit above.
Also, calling an MP a liar in the House will get you suspended immediately.
Oops, my bad. It's Question Period here in Canuckistan.
In QP, you can pretty much say anything and it's farking disgraceful what comes out of some MPs mouths.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:17:06 PM |
ddam: The_Six_Fingered_Man: sabreWulf07: The_Six_Fingered_Man: it is beyond stupid to blindly donate money to a candidate about which you do not know any facts or positions. To do so at the impetus of a collective of KOS diarists is even more retarded.
Can people do it at the impetus of being furious that a member of the US Congress would be so shockingly disrespectful to the office of the President of the United States, so contemptuous of the rules of order and thus the foundations of our democracy? How about just not wanting the guy in Congress anymore? He effectively stood up in the middle of a nationally televised presidential address to wipe his ass with the US flag - maybe it doesn't have to be "beyond stupid" to have a little pride in America and her ideals? Wilson has proven he doesn't.
He effectively wiped his ass with the US flag? Really? Obtuse much? If anything, he exercised his basic right to free speech.
Free speech doesn't mean free of consequences. If the consequence is that he loses his job in 2010 at least he can feel warm inside that he excercised his free speech right.
I didn't say it didn't. I'm just arguing that he did not effectively wipe his ass with the US Flag by being "contemptuous of the rules of order and thus the foundation of our democracy."
And I would certainly hope that the Speaker doesn't publicly admonish him on the floor of the House. To do so would set a dangerous precedent.
Can people do it at the impetus of being furious that a member of the US Congress would be so shockingly disrespectful to the office of the President of the United States, so contemptuous of the rules of order and thus the foundations of our democracy? How about just not wanting the guy in Congress anymore? He effectively stood up in the middle of a nationally televised presidential address to wipe his ass with the US flag - maybe it doesn't have to be "beyond stupid" to have a little pride in America and her ideals? Wilson has proven he doesn't.
He effectively wiped his ass with the US flag? Really? Obtuse much? If anything, he exercised his basic right to free speech.
Free speech doesn't mean free of consequences. If the consequence is that he loses his job in 2010 at least he can feel warm inside that he excercised his free speech right.
I didn't say it didn't. I'm just arguing that he did not effectively wipe his ass with the US Flag by being "contemptuous of the rules of order and thus the foundation of our democracy."
And I would certainly hope that the Speaker doesn't publicly admonish him on the floor of the House. To do so would set a dangerous precedent.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 03:17:35 PM |
Shaggy_C: whidbey: Isn't there an actual list of who constitutes Blue Dogs in Congress? I thought there were...main offenders.
The Blue Dogs are an official group, they've got over 50 members in congress. I don't take any Democrat from a conservative district for granted.
Well for what it's worth, I didn't see Miller on this list...
The Blue Dogs are an official group, they've got over 50 members in congress. I don't take any Democrat from a conservative district for granted.
Well for what it's worth, I didn't see Miller on this list...
| tallguywithglasseson
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2009-09-10 03:17:56 PM |
Vash The Stampede: Rush is saying Miller is $400,000 in debt, so of course the Freepers are laughing at how these donations will do nothing but pay off parts of his debt.
Good! That should dissuade some people from donating to Miller out of hatred for Obama. Not sure wtf he's thinking there.
Good! That should dissuade some people from donating to Miller out of hatred for Obama. Not sure wtf he's thinking there.
| Nina_Hartley's_Ass | 2009-09-10 03:18:13 PM |
When was the last time you heard anyone over the age of fourteen exclaim, "You lie!"?
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:18:33 PM |
Obdicut: The_Six_Fingered_Man: He effectively wiped his ass with the US flag? Really? Obtuse much? If anything, he exercised his basic right to free speech.
Wouldn't wiping your ass with the US flag be exercising your basic right to free speech?
Yes. So would burning it. I would consider neither to be contemptuous of the rule of order and thus the foundations of our democracy. If anything, they are examples of the foundations of our democracy.
Wouldn't wiping your ass with the US flag be exercising your basic right to free speech?
Yes. So would burning it. I would consider neither to be contemptuous of the rule of order and thus the foundations of our democracy. If anything, they are examples of the foundations of our democracy.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:19:18 PM |
whidbey: Shaggy_C: whidbey: Isn't there an actual list of who constitutes Blue Dogs in Congress? I thought there were...main offenders.
The Blue Dogs are an official group, they've got over 50 members in congress. I don't take any Democrat from a conservative district for granted.
Well for what it's worth, I didn't see Miller on this list...
That's because he's not a member on Congress, you dolt.
The Blue Dogs are an official group, they've got over 50 members in congress. I don't take any Democrat from a conservative district for granted.
Well for what it's worth, I didn't see Miller on this list...
That's because he's not a member on Congress, you dolt.
| I Said
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2009-09-10 03:20:17 PM |
Davey Croquette: My experience tells me differently but that's OK. I'd say it's "who" you are not how much $$ you donate. Because it's gotten to the point where so many special interest groups will pay everyone, both sides, anything they want. It's a practical matter. Say, the Sierra Club gives $1k to every member of the Florida Senate. No one can accuse them OR the congress of taking influence and since today's minorities in politics are tomorrow's majority it never pays to exclude ANY policy maker.
Contributions are like an admission fee. Once you're in you gotta rely on other strengths.
Interesting. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks.
Contributions are like an admission fee. Once you're in you gotta rely on other strengths.
Interesting. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks.
| thenateman | 2009-09-10 03:21:05 PM |
ddam: While the British parliament has different decorum rules it doesn't mean that they should be applied to how politicians behave in the US.
And calling Palin and any other politician that supports the "death panel" a liar is wrong? It's been proven that "death panels" do not exist in the bill yet people still yet it. Why not call them out as the liars that they are?
As far as him knowing he screwed up... good. Now he'll learn that some screwups end up costing the job he has. He's free to say whatever he wants at any time he wants but there are consequences.
It seems that we agree that Wilson violated the speech code. That invites a response. Time will tell whether one word uttered at the moment will end this guy's career. I'm guessing no, that everyone will forget about this incident in a few days.
This incident will appear in TV commercials locally. But those attack ads will be making a ridiculous argument: Don't vote for this creepy shiatforbrains because he has bad manners. It doesn't hang together.
And calling Palin and any other politician that supports the "death panel" a liar is wrong? It's been proven that "death panels" do not exist in the bill yet people still yet it. Why not call them out as the liars that they are?
As far as him knowing he screwed up... good. Now he'll learn that some screwups end up costing the job he has. He's free to say whatever he wants at any time he wants but there are consequences.
It seems that we agree that Wilson violated the speech code. That invites a response. Time will tell whether one word uttered at the moment will end this guy's career. I'm guessing no, that everyone will forget about this incident in a few days.
This incident will appear in TV commercials locally. But those attack ads will be making a ridiculous argument: Don't vote for this creepy shiatforbrains because he has bad manners. It doesn't hang together.
| sariq
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2009-09-10 03:22:00 PM |
| abb3w
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2009-09-10 03:22:01 PM |
whidbey: You're not a member of that group...
...but gets a postcard from reality once in a while.
Shaggy_C: I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page.
As noted, it's been redirected to survive the traffic volume. Perhaps he'll spend some of the money on a better hosting service. =)
Google's cache is still available for a bunch of his website pages. He'll probably end up a blue dog, but I'd prefer a blue dog to someone who doesn't even get postcards from reality.
...but gets a postcard from reality once in a while.
Shaggy_C: I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page.
As noted, it's been redirected to survive the traffic volume. Perhaps he'll spend some of the money on a better hosting service. =)
Google's cache is still available for a bunch of his website pages. He'll probably end up a blue dog, but I'd prefer a blue dog to someone who doesn't even get postcards from reality.
| Shaggy_C | 2009-09-10 03:22:28 PM |
barneyfifesbullet: Won't work, though. If you look around online, the people in SC (who actually live there, not some Berkley hippies) tend to agree that Obama is a liar.
Oh well, just think of all of that redistribution of wealth as all those effete liberal Berkley hippy dollars come raining down on the local liberals. Who do you think gets the last laugh when business starts booming at the local head shops and Whole Foods?
Oh well, just think of all of that redistribution of wealth as all those effete liberal Berkley hippy dollars come raining down on the local liberals. Who do you think gets the last laugh when business starts booming at the local head shops and Whole Foods?
| dbirchall
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2009-09-10 03:23:23 PM |
thenateman: It seems that we agree that Wilson violated the speech code. That invites a response. Time will tell whether one word uttered at the moment will end this guy's career.
Which word? "You?" or "Lie?"
Which word? "You?" or "Lie?"
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 03:23:53 PM |
The Blue Dogs are an official group, they've got over 50 members in congress
It's difficult to be a liberal anywhere but DC. State legislatures and locals don't have the "open checkbook" liberalism requires. They have a finite amount of $$ and learn to live within that. Political realities cause conservatism.
It's difficult to be a liberal anywhere but DC. State legislatures and locals don't have the "open checkbook" liberalism requires. They have a finite amount of $$ and learn to live within that. Political realities cause conservatism.
| BMulligan | 2009-09-10 03:23:57 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Because it doesn't matter what I say? I have an (R) next to my name, therefore here on Fark, I am already a partisan stooge, birther, gay (but in the closet), and a teabagger, regardless of my actual positions.
Wait - you know of some positions other than the standard "regular teabagger" and "reverse teabagger"? Please expand on this potentially useful information.
Wait - you know of some positions other than the standard "regular teabagger" and "reverse teabagger"? Please expand on this potentially useful information.
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 03:24:01 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Yes. So would burning it. I would consider neither to be contemptuous of the rule of order and thus the foundations of our democracy. If anything, they are examples of the foundations of our democracy.
Well, they would actually be contemptuous of the rules of order. I don't think the rules of order are the foundations of our democracy.
I'm just pointing out that saying that what he did wasn't like wiping his ass on the flag, if anything it was exercising his freedom of speech is not a coherent sentence, since wiping your ass on the flag is exercising his freedom of speech.
In the end, as with most things, I think Kantian analysis is a good guide to behavior. What if everyone in a similar circumstance acted as he did?
I'm not contributing to him. I don't think it's wise to support anyone blindly, even if they oppose someone you don't like. I'm not really a fan of 'opposing' anyone, I'm much more about supporting people.
However, those people donating money are, under the current laws of the land, also exercising their free speech.
It's a whole lot of free speech going down.
Well, they would actually be contemptuous of the rules of order. I don't think the rules of order are the foundations of our democracy.
I'm just pointing out that saying that what he did wasn't like wiping his ass on the flag, if anything it was exercising his freedom of speech is not a coherent sentence, since wiping your ass on the flag is exercising his freedom of speech.
In the end, as with most things, I think Kantian analysis is a good guide to behavior. What if everyone in a similar circumstance acted as he did?
I'm not contributing to him. I don't think it's wise to support anyone blindly, even if they oppose someone you don't like. I'm not really a fan of 'opposing' anyone, I'm much more about supporting people.
However, those people donating money are, under the current laws of the land, also exercising their free speech.
It's a whole lot of free speech going down.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:24:23 PM |
abb3w: whidbey: You're not a member of that group...
...but gets a postcard from reality once in a while.
Shaggy_C: I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page.
As noted, it's been redirected to survive the traffic volume. Perhaps he'll spend some of the money on a better hosting service. =)
Google's cache is still available for a bunch of his website pages. He'll probably end up a blue dog, but I'd prefer a blue dog to someone who doesn't even get postcards from reality.
Someone was asking for proof of Blue Dog tendency?
Balancing the Budget
South Carolina families live within their means - and Congress should learn to do the same thing. Even as we make the bold moves necessary to try and turn our economy around, we increase our national debt and place our children's futures in jeopardy. Rob is committed to restoring fiscal sanity in Washington, and he supports the balancing of the federal budget.
There you go.
...but gets a postcard from reality once in a while.
Shaggy_C: I tried to pull it up and it just went to that think blue donation page.
As noted, it's been redirected to survive the traffic volume. Perhaps he'll spend some of the money on a better hosting service. =)
Google's cache is still available for a bunch of his website pages. He'll probably end up a blue dog, but I'd prefer a blue dog to someone who doesn't even get postcards from reality.
Someone was asking for proof of Blue Dog tendency?
Balancing the Budget
South Carolina families live within their means - and Congress should learn to do the same thing. Even as we make the bold moves necessary to try and turn our economy around, we increase our national debt and place our children's futures in jeopardy. Rob is committed to restoring fiscal sanity in Washington, and he supports the balancing of the federal budget.
There you go.
| IXI Jim IXI
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2009-09-10 03:24:28 PM |
Apology accepted, Captain Needa
| sabreWulf07 | 2009-09-10 03:24:32 PM |
Aww c'mon, my hyperbole wasn't any worse than yours. Every last one of these donors are "beyond stupid" and are only donating at the "impetus of a collective of KOS diarists"? Really? Every last one them? Will you concede that maybe a few of them are genuinely angry?
| thenateman | 2009-09-10 03:24:35 PM |
dbirchall: thenateman: It seems that we agree that Wilson violated the speech code. That invites a response. Time will tell whether one word uttered at the moment will end this guy's career.
Which word? "You?" or "Lie?"
Did he say "you lie"? I thought I heard "liar."
Which word? "You?" or "Lie?"
Did he say "you lie"? I thought I heard "liar."
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 03:25:41 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: That's because he's not a member on Congress, you dolt.
So I made a mistake.
Why don't you own up to your own mistakes of defending the childish attacks being made against this administration?
So I made a mistake.
Why don't you own up to your own mistakes of defending the childish attacks being made against this administration?
| TheJoeY | 2009-09-10 03:25:43 PM |
Davey Croquette: and let politicians spend only a specific amount of taxpayer-provided money for their campaigns.
Controlling speech is un-American and there is no reason compelling enough do it. Same with equal time. These are philosophies drudged up by Democrats the minute they want to avoid the consequences of their fiscal behavior.
You're the one saying giving money to Politicians is stupid... or do you mean just average citizens doing it? We'll just let the corporations donate money, and hope it's in our best interests... right?
Controlling speech is un-American and there is no reason compelling enough do it. Same with equal time. These are philosophies drudged up by Democrats the minute they want to avoid the consequences of their fiscal behavior.
You're the one saying giving money to Politicians is stupid... or do you mean just average citizens doing it? We'll just let the corporations donate money, and hope it's in our best interests... right?
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:25:47 PM |
Obdicut: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Yes. So would burning it. I would consider neither to be contemptuous of the rule of order and thus the foundations of our democracy. If anything, they are examples of the foundations of our democracy.
Well, they would actually be contemptuous of the rules of order. I don't think the rules of order are the foundations of our democracy.
I'm just pointing out that saying that what he did wasn't like wiping his ass on the flag, if anything it was exercising his freedom of speech is not a coherent sentence, since wiping your ass on the flag is exercising his freedom of speech.
In the end, as with most things, I think Kantian analysis is a good guide to behavior. What if everyone in a similar circumstance acted as he did?
I'm not contributing to him. I don't think it's wise to support anyone blindly, even if they oppose someone you don't like. I'm not really a fan of 'opposing' anyone, I'm much more about supporting people.
However, those people donating money are, under the current laws of the land, also exercising their free speech.
It's a whole lot of free speech going down.
True dat yo. I am with you on the support rather than oppose stance, which is why I've been asking everyone why they are blindly donating. I guess some people are just more spiteful and hate filled than others.
Well, they would actually be contemptuous of the rules of order. I don't think the rules of order are the foundations of our democracy.
I'm just pointing out that saying that what he did wasn't like wiping his ass on the flag, if anything it was exercising his freedom of speech is not a coherent sentence, since wiping your ass on the flag is exercising his freedom of speech.
In the end, as with most things, I think Kantian analysis is a good guide to behavior. What if everyone in a similar circumstance acted as he did?
I'm not contributing to him. I don't think it's wise to support anyone blindly, even if they oppose someone you don't like. I'm not really a fan of 'opposing' anyone, I'm much more about supporting people.
However, those people donating money are, under the current laws of the land, also exercising their free speech.
It's a whole lot of free speech going down.
True dat yo. I am with you on the support rather than oppose stance, which is why I've been asking everyone why they are blindly donating. I guess some people are just more spiteful and hate filled than others.
| meathome | 2009-09-10 03:25:56 PM |
Hell, as someone who leans more to the right of the aisle (more often than not), I'm happy as hell to hear of this.
Regardless of where your politics lie, you show respect to the office, especially when they are speaking.
Dissent may be the highest form of patriotism, but Wilson's behavior shows that he is unsuitable for his office.
Regardless of where your politics lie, you show respect to the office, especially when they are speaking.
Dissent may be the highest form of patriotism, but Wilson's behavior shows that he is unsuitable for his office.
| Not An Alt | 2009-09-10 03:26:14 PM |
Shaggy_C: Oh well, just think of all of that redistribution of wealth as all those effete liberal Berkley hippy dollars come raining down on the local liberals. Who do you think gets the last laugh when business starts booming at the local head shops and Whole Foods?
That'll also trickle into the local farming economy. I'm sure they can grow arugula on SC's fertile landscape.
That'll also trickle into the local farming economy. I'm sure they can grow arugula on SC's fertile landscape.
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 03:26:34 PM |
Martin Silenus: That's a good thing. Rush must be high off his ass or something. Nothing new.
Yeah, I know. I just think it's funny how they think wiping out nearly half a million in debt in less than a single day without the guy lifting a finger himself is somehow not going to help him.
Yeah, I know. I just think it's funny how they think wiping out nearly half a million in debt in less than a single day without the guy lifting a finger himself is somehow not going to help him.
| dbirchall
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2009-09-10 03:26:42 PM |
Vash The Stampede: Rush is saying Miller is $400,000 in debt, so of course the Freepers are laughing at how these donations will do nothing but pay off parts of his debt. In the time it took me to type this, he probably raised another $30,000 though, so he'll be debt free by dinner at this rate.
Yeah, he's at $377K or something now, and it doesn't seem to be slowing down.
Yeah, he's at $377K or something now, and it doesn't seem to be slowing down.
| IXI Jim IXI
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2009-09-10 03:27:01 PM |
borg: !3 mos. is a long time in politics, Democrats better stop counting their chickens
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of all the Palin 2012 bumper stickers :D
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of all the Palin 2012 bumper stickers :D
| Action Replay Nick
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2009-09-10 03:27:40 PM |
Also, I have to say, who cares if Miller is a blue dog? I'm not saying he is, I don't know. But they aren't so bad, they're like more rational versions of what Republicans used to be. The slightly left Democrats shouldn't be left totally unchecked.
The point is, he's not a Republican, and in particular, not THIS Republican. The further diminished this modern Republican Party becomes, the better off the country will be.
The point is, he's not a Republican, and in particular, not THIS Republican. The further diminished this modern Republican Party becomes, the better off the country will be.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:27:54 PM |
sabreWulf07: Aww c'mon, my hyperbole wasn't any worse than yours. Every last one of these donors are "beyond stupid" and are only donating at the "impetus of a collective of KOS diarists"? Really? Every last one them? Will you concede that maybe a few of them are genuinely angry?
The biggest block of donations are coming from Kossacks for Rob Miller. Are you saying that the 4200 people that belong to that donation group are all from the SC-2nd? There is a donation link on the front page of dailykos for FSM's sake.
The biggest block of donations are coming from Kossacks for Rob Miller. Are you saying that the 4200 people that belong to that donation group are all from the SC-2nd? There is a donation link on the front page of dailykos for FSM's sake.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:28:54 PM |
whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: That's because he's not a member on Congress, you dolt.
So I made a mistake.
Why don't you own up to your own mistakes of defending the childish attacks being made against this administration?
As soon as I notice a mistake, I own up to it. Perhaps you are blinded by your hatred of all things Republican to notice. Perhaps you don't care. But don't try to deflect your ignorance by trying to trash me.
So I made a mistake.
Why don't you own up to your own mistakes of defending the childish attacks being made against this administration?
As soon as I notice a mistake, I own up to it. Perhaps you are blinded by your hatred of all things Republican to notice. Perhaps you don't care. But don't try to deflect your ignorance by trying to trash me.
| Brainsick | 2009-09-10 03:29:51 PM |
BMulligan: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Because it doesn't matter what I say? I have an (R) next to my name, therefore here on Fark, I am already a partisan stooge, birther, gay (but in the closet), and a teabagger, regardless of my actual positions.
Wait - you know of some positions other than the standard "regular teabagger" and "reverse teabagger"? Please expand on this potentially useful information.
There's the Flying Teabag (sometimes known as the "bat-wing") usually involving leaping upon your unsuspecting victim from a chair or other furniture. See Also: Monkey Brain
Wait - you know of some positions other than the standard "regular teabagger" and "reverse teabagger"? Please expand on this potentially useful information.
There's the Flying Teabag (sometimes known as the "bat-wing") usually involving leaping upon your unsuspecting victim from a chair or other furniture. See Also: Monkey Brain
| greentea1985
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2009-09-10 03:30:05 PM |
UNC_Samurai: I'm glad to see Miller's war chest expanding, but remember: Bachmann's opponent Tinklenburg had a fund-raising field day right after her October appearance on hardball, and the functional retards of Minnesota's 6th still reelected her.
Bachmann nearly lost a presumably safe Republican seat after her appearance on Hardball, and it wouldn't be a shock if she loses it in the next election. At the very least, this will turn what was supposed to be an easy win for Wilson into a close election, diverting GOP money from other close elections.
Bachmann nearly lost a presumably safe Republican seat after her appearance on Hardball, and it wouldn't be a shock if she loses it in the next election. At the very least, this will turn what was supposed to be an easy win for Wilson into a close election, diverting GOP money from other close elections.
| MindStalker | 2009-09-10 03:30:27 PM |
what_now: whistleridge: Actually, if I had been there, I probably would have been playing a DS or something...I'm there to listen not watch. Who gives a shiat what I'm looking at, as long as I can clearly explain what I heard later?
Because it's about farking respecting the person talking to you. It's something most people learn in grade school- when someone is giving a speech, you pay attention, or at least pretend to. You do NOT "play a DS or something".
Look, if I had been invited to a speech George W. Bush was making, I would have made a decision: 1) do not go and protest/picket outside, or 2) go and keep my thoughts to myself.
He probably spends entire class lectures on facebook. Gad I hate those people..
Because it's about farking respecting the person talking to you. It's something most people learn in grade school- when someone is giving a speech, you pay attention, or at least pretend to. You do NOT "play a DS or something".
Look, if I had been invited to a speech George W. Bush was making, I would have made a decision: 1) do not go and protest/picket outside, or 2) go and keep my thoughts to myself.
He probably spends entire class lectures on facebook. Gad I hate those people..
| Action Replay Nick
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2009-09-10 03:30:40 PM |
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 03:31:24 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Perhaps you are blinded by your hatred of all things Republican to notice.
Anyone who doesn't have a healthy dose of hate for the Republicans is the one flying blind here, Six.
Perhaps you don't care. But don't try to deflect your ignorance by trying to trash me.
Can't help it if you're such an easy target. You want credibility?
Establish some. Right now, you're no more than tool material to me.
Anyone who doesn't have a healthy dose of hate for the Republicans is the one flying blind here, Six.
Perhaps you don't care. But don't try to deflect your ignorance by trying to trash me.
Can't help it if you're such an easy target. You want credibility?
Establish some. Right now, you're no more than tool material to me.
| Nina_Hartley's_Ass | 2009-09-10 03:32:26 PM |
So will this make other Republicans a little more respectful when they talk about Obama?
| Shaggy_C | 2009-09-10 03:32:39 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Someone was asking for proof of Blue Dog tendency?
Balancing the Budget
? The 'normal' Democrats are for balancing the budget too. Pelosi was trying to put PAYGO back into place all the way back in 2006.
Balancing the Budget
? The 'normal' Democrats are for balancing the budget too. Pelosi was trying to put PAYGO back into place all the way back in 2006.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:32:51 PM |
whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Perhaps you are blinded by your hatred of all things Republican to notice.
Anyone who doesn't have a healthy dose of hate for the Republicans is the one flying blind here, Six.
Perhaps you don't care. But don't try to deflect your ignorance by trying to trash me.
Can't help it if you're such an easy target. You want credibility?
Establish some. Right now, you're no more than tool material to me.
Skookum wants to talk about establishing credibility? Hilarious.
Anyone who doesn't have a healthy dose of hate for the Republicans is the one flying blind here, Six.
Perhaps you don't care. But don't try to deflect your ignorance by trying to trash me.
Can't help it if you're such an easy target. You want credibility?
Establish some. Right now, you're no more than tool material to me.
Skookum wants to talk about establishing credibility? Hilarious.
| IXI Jim IXI
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2009-09-10 03:34:08 PM |
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: So will this make other Republicans a little more respectful when they talk about Obama?
Well, if there's one thing Republicans are known for, it's learning from their mistakes.
Well, if there's one thing Republicans are known for, it's learning from their mistakes.
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 03:34:14 PM |
Interesting. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks.
Let me add this. When a group habitually pays everyone they get the ability to make statements by occasionally excluding certain legislators.
Let me add this. When a group habitually pays everyone they get the ability to make statements by occasionally excluding certain legislators.
| sabreWulf07 | 2009-09-10 03:34:14 PM |
meathome: Hell, as someone who leans more to the right of the aisle (more often than not), I'm happy as hell to hear of this.
Regardless of where your politics lie, you show respect to the office, especially when they are speaking.
Dissent may be the highest form of patriotism, but Wilson's behavior shows that he is unsuitable for his office.
This, right here. This is sane version of my attempt at Fark whargarbl above. There must be a non-trivial portion of the population that feels exactly this way. He's unfit for the Congress - what can we do? We can contribute to his opponent. Not everyone is being led unthinkingly by "KOS diarists" to donate. Even if you don't agree with meathome, his position and contributing because of it should not be dismissed as "beyond stupid".
Regardless of where your politics lie, you show respect to the office, especially when they are speaking.
Dissent may be the highest form of patriotism, but Wilson's behavior shows that he is unsuitable for his office.
This, right here. This is sane version of my attempt at Fark whargarbl above. There must be a non-trivial portion of the population that feels exactly this way. He's unfit for the Congress - what can we do? We can contribute to his opponent. Not everyone is being led unthinkingly by "KOS diarists" to donate. Even if you don't agree with meathome, his position and contributing because of it should not be dismissed as "beyond stupid".
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 03:35:27 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Skookum wants to talk about establishing credibility? Hilarious.
Skookum ain't here, dude.
But go ahead, bask in your toolishness. Ignore my criticism.
Skookum ain't here, dude.
But go ahead, bask in your toolishness. Ignore my criticism.
| DarnoKonrad | 2009-09-10 03:36:34 PM |
I can't find the link. Does anyone have the house rules violation for the Democrat that called Bush a liar several years ago?
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 03:36:52 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: True dat yo. I am with you on the support rather than oppose stance, which is why I've been asking everyone why they are blindly donating. I guess some people are just more spiteful and hate filled than others.
Your conclusion doesn't fit the facts, though, in my eyes. I don't see a lot of spite and hate. Spite carries a very specific connotation of pettiness and unfairness. Hate is likewise a very charged word, often thrown around by various trolls in the form of 'there's no hate like liberal hate', etc. They're both extremely strong superlatives.
I think people feeling contempt for his actions, outrage, etc. and transforming that into donations are definitely motivated by emotions, but I don't think summing up those emotions as spite and hate is true, or useful. If someone feels strongly about Wilson's actions but doesn't donate-- as do, and haven't (yay English language) are they still spiteful and hateful? Or is it the act of donating money to a political candidate that is the demarcation of spite?
I think the viewpoint that politics is as much about opposing as it is supporting leads to bad consequences, but it is a valid position to hold, depressingly enough-- especially with the case of incumbents and relatively untested challengers.
Your conclusion doesn't fit the facts, though, in my eyes. I don't see a lot of spite and hate. Spite carries a very specific connotation of pettiness and unfairness. Hate is likewise a very charged word, often thrown around by various trolls in the form of 'there's no hate like liberal hate', etc. They're both extremely strong superlatives.
I think people feeling contempt for his actions, outrage, etc. and transforming that into donations are definitely motivated by emotions, but I don't think summing up those emotions as spite and hate is true, or useful. If someone feels strongly about Wilson's actions but doesn't donate-- as do, and haven't (yay English language) are they still spiteful and hateful? Or is it the act of donating money to a political candidate that is the demarcation of spite?
I think the viewpoint that politics is as much about opposing as it is supporting leads to bad consequences, but it is a valid position to hold, depressingly enough-- especially with the case of incumbents and relatively untested challengers.
| BigG | 2009-09-10 03:37:30 PM |
Let's hope.
/up to $386,720
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 03:39:01 PM |
Obdicut: If someone feels strongly about Wilson's actions but doesn't donate-- as do, and haven't (yay English language) are they still spiteful and hateful?
Ugh. As I do, and as I haven't. Sorry for making a tortured sentence even more tortured.
Ugh. As I do, and as I haven't. Sorry for making a tortured sentence even more tortured.
| Nickdude | 2009-09-10 03:39:12 PM |
THREADJACK
if you're going to make fun of hippies, it's spelled BERKELEY
/end threadjack
//not a hippie
///slashies
if you're going to make fun of hippies, it's spelled BERKELEY
/end threadjack
//not a hippie
///slashies
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 03:39:49 PM |
Obdicut: I think people feeling contempt for his actions, outrage, etc. and transforming that into donations are definitely motivated by emotions, but I don't think summing up those emotions as spite and hate is true, or useful. If someone feels strongly about Wilson's actions but doesn't donate-- as do, and haven't (yay English language) are they still spiteful and hateful? Or is it the act of donating money to a political candidate that is the demarcation of spite?
I think the message is clear they want this asshole out of office, and donating to his opponent only drives the point home.
I think the message is clear they want this asshole out of office, and donating to his opponent only drives the point home.
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 03:39:57 PM |
Pelosi was trying to put PAYGO back into place all the way back in 2006.
PAYGO, as anyone with even a shred of political wisdom realizes, is a joke. It is a tool for the majority to force the de facto repeal of past congress's obligations. It's waived more than it's abided.
It is NOT a budget balancing tool. This is true for both sides. It's bi-partisan bad.
If you want a balanced budget do an amendment like most states have. It's the only way.
PAYGO, as anyone with even a shred of political wisdom realizes, is a joke. It is a tool for the majority to force the de facto repeal of past congress's obligations. It's waived more than it's abided.
It is NOT a budget balancing tool. This is true for both sides. It's bi-partisan bad.
If you want a balanced budget do an amendment like most states have. It's the only way.
| Some Wapo | 2009-09-10 03:40:43 PM |
Hah - I just donated $25, and I live in freaking MONTANA.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 03:42:16 PM |
barneyfifesbullet: has received nearly 3,000 individual grassroots contributions raising approximately $100,000
So, Dems are trying to buy the seat? That used to be a bad thing.
Won't work, though. If you look around online, the people in SC (who actually live there, not some Berkley hippies) tend to agree that Obama is a liar.
Whatever, it's a fun show to watch anyway.
You are ADORABLE.
So, Dems are trying to buy the seat? That used to be a bad thing.
Won't work, though. If you look around online, the people in SC (who actually live there, not some Berkley hippies) tend to agree that Obama is a liar.
Whatever, it's a fun show to watch anyway.
You are ADORABLE.
| I Said
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2009-09-10 03:42:54 PM |
| IXI Jim IXI
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2009-09-10 03:43:28 PM |
Some Wapo:
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
Well, I guess we know how Wilson raises money...
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
Well, I guess we know how Wilson raises money...
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 03:43:43 PM |
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 03:43:49 PM |
whidbey: I think the message is clear they want this asshole out of office, and donating to his opponent only drives the point home.
Well, yes. But that implicitly means they want the other guy in office over him, and I do not think everyone donating has actually researched the other guy at all.
You can say they're making the probabilistic estimate that his opponent hasn't done anything as bad, but, well, that's not a probabilistic estimate I'd feel comfortable in.
Well, yes. But that implicitly means they want the other guy in office over him, and I do not think everyone donating has actually researched the other guy at all.
You can say they're making the probabilistic estimate that his opponent hasn't done anything as bad, but, well, that's not a probabilistic estimate I'd feel comfortable in.
| fosborb | 2009-09-10 03:43:51 PM |
Obdicut: Or is it the act of donating money to a political candidate that is the demarcation of spite?
Dropping $20 on impulse isn't enough of an event to represent anything so strong as "spite" or "hate", outside of still having to do chores for petty cash.
Dropping $20 on impulse isn't enough of an event to represent anything so strong as "spite" or "hate", outside of still having to do chores for petty cash.
| DarnoKonrad | 2009-09-10 03:44:20 PM |
Nickdude: THREADJACK
if you're going to make fun of hippies, it's spelled BERKELEY
/end threadjack
//not a hippie
///slashies
Is that you P.J. O'Rourke?
You need new material buddy.
if you're going to make fun of hippies, it's spelled BERKELEY
/end threadjack
//not a hippie
///slashies
Is that you P.J. O'Rourke?
You need new material buddy.
| sabreWulf07 | 2009-09-10 03:45:39 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: sabreWulf07: Aww c'mon, my hyperbole wasn't any worse than yours. Every last one of these donors are "beyond stupid" and are only donating at the "impetus of a collective of KOS diarists"? Really? Every last one them? Will you concede that maybe a few of them are genuinely angry?
The biggest block of donations are coming from Kossacks for Rob Miller. Are you saying that the 4200 people that belong to that donation group are all from the SC-2nd? There is a donation link on the front page of dailykos for FSM's sake.
You forgot to answer my question. I didn't ask about KOS. I asked if you truly believe that not a single donor contributed out of sincere anger at Wilson, as you have asserted.
The biggest block of donations are coming from Kossacks for Rob Miller. Are you saying that the 4200 people that belong to that donation group are all from the SC-2nd? There is a donation link on the front page of dailykos for FSM's sake.
You forgot to answer my question. I didn't ask about KOS. I asked if you truly believe that not a single donor contributed out of sincere anger at Wilson, as you have asserted.
| Phil Herup | 2009-09-10 03:45:45 PM |
meathome: Dissent may be the highest form of patriotism, but Wilson's behavior shows that he is unsuitable for his office.
Meh.... his head was probably about to asplode from the BS the President was shoveling.
If he is gonna lie... he should be prepared for this.
Meh.... his head was probably about to asplode from the BS the President was shoveling.
If he is gonna lie... he should be prepared for this.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:47:01 PM |
sabreWulf07: The_Six_Fingered_Man: sabreWulf07: Aww c'mon, my hyperbole wasn't any worse than yours. Every last one of these donors are "beyond stupid" and are only donating at the "impetus of a collective of KOS diarists"? Really? Every last one them? Will you concede that maybe a few of them are genuinely angry?
The biggest block of donations are coming from Kossacks for Rob Miller. Are you saying that the 4200 people that belong to that donation group are all from the SC-2nd? There is a donation link on the front page of dailykos for FSM's sake.
You forgot to answer my question. I didn't ask about KOS. I asked if you truly believe that not a single donor contributed out of sincere anger at Wilson, as you have asserted.
No. I believe that his mother or wife may have donated some money to his campaign out of love and kindness. But to look at the ActBlue page, the vast majority of his donations are from groups that only want to trash Rep. Wilson.
The biggest block of donations are coming from Kossacks for Rob Miller. Are you saying that the 4200 people that belong to that donation group are all from the SC-2nd? There is a donation link on the front page of dailykos for FSM's sake.
You forgot to answer my question. I didn't ask about KOS. I asked if you truly believe that not a single donor contributed out of sincere anger at Wilson, as you have asserted.
No. I believe that his mother or wife may have donated some money to his campaign out of love and kindness. But to look at the ActBlue page, the vast majority of his donations are from groups that only want to trash Rep. Wilson.
| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 03:48:04 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Perhaps you are blinded by your hatred of all things Republican to notice.
Anyone who doesn't have a healthy dose of hate for the Republicans is the one flying blind here, Six.
Perhaps you don't care. But don't try to deflect your ignorance by trying to trash me.
Can't help it if you're such an easy target. You want credibility?
Establish some. Right now, you're no more than tool material to me.
Skookum wants to talk about establishing credibility? Hilarious.
Nice profile; especially this:
Have vowed never to troll someone myself.
Favorited (purple 2) as "The_Six_Fingered_Man: vow violator."
Anyone who doesn't have a healthy dose of hate for the Republicans is the one flying blind here, Six.
Perhaps you don't care. But don't try to deflect your ignorance by trying to trash me.
Can't help it if you're such an easy target. You want credibility?
Establish some. Right now, you're no more than tool material to me.
Skookum wants to talk about establishing credibility? Hilarious.
Nice profile; especially this:
Have vowed never to troll someone myself.
Favorited (purple 2) as "The_Six_Fingered_Man: vow violator."
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 03:48:51 PM |
Obdicut: But that implicitly means they want the other guy in office over him, and I do not think everyone donating has actually researched the other guy at all.
I guess they've resigned themselves to an "Anybody but Wilson" mentality. As the story goes, they'd rather vote for ayellow blue dog.
You can say they're making the probabilistic estimate that his opponent hasn't done anything as bad, but, well, that's not a probabilistic estimate I'd feel comfortable in.
I agree, but I can't blame them for giving someone else a chance to unseat him, namely his opponent, who I would think has at least an inkling of support for the President and his party.
Could be wrong, who cares? If the guy turns out to be just as big of an asshole, vote him out too!
I guess they've resigned themselves to an "Anybody but Wilson" mentality. As the story goes, they'd rather vote for a
You can say they're making the probabilistic estimate that his opponent hasn't done anything as bad, but, well, that's not a probabilistic estimate I'd feel comfortable in.
I agree, but I can't blame them for giving someone else a chance to unseat him, namely his opponent, who I would think has at least an inkling of support for the President and his party.
Could be wrong, who cares? If the guy turns out to be just as big of an asshole, vote him out too!
| Shaggy_C | 2009-09-10 03:49:18 PM |
When did Valerie Plame's husband become a congressman anyways?
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:49:44 PM |
rufus-t-firefly: The_Six_Fingered_Man: whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Perhaps you are blinded by your hatred of all things Republican to notice.
Anyone who doesn't have a healthy dose of hate for the Republicans is the one flying blind here, Six.
Perhaps you don't care. But don't try to deflect your ignorance by trying to trash me.
Can't help it if you're such an easy target. You want credibility?
Establish some. Right now, you're no more than tool material to me.
Skookum wants to talk about establishing credibility? Hilarious.
Nice profile; especially this:
Have vowed never to troll someone myself.
Favorited (purple 2) as "The_Six_Fingered_Man: vow violator."
How has anything I've said in this thread been a troll? Or do you classify "troll" as "something that I don't agree with?"
Anyone who doesn't have a healthy dose of hate for the Republicans is the one flying blind here, Six.
Perhaps you don't care. But don't try to deflect your ignorance by trying to trash me.
Can't help it if you're such an easy target. You want credibility?
Establish some. Right now, you're no more than tool material to me.
Skookum wants to talk about establishing credibility? Hilarious.
Nice profile; especially this:
Have vowed never to troll someone myself.
Favorited (purple 2) as "The_Six_Fingered_Man: vow violator."
How has anything I've said in this thread been a troll? Or do you classify "troll" as "something that I don't agree with?"
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 03:49:50 PM |
Phil Herup: If he is gonna lie... he should be prepared for this.
Oh how cute. The troll is buying into the unsubstantiated point that the President lied.
/god you're such a f*cking tool, Phil
Oh how cute. The troll is buying into the unsubstantiated point that the President lied.
/god you're such a f*cking tool, Phil
| Action Replay Nick
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2009-09-10 03:51:30 PM |
I like how there are still douchenozzle Republican toads like Phil Hairlip insisting that illegals will be allowed to opt into government-operated healthcare options.
Keep going assholes, all you're succeeding in doing is further marginalizing your retarded party and validating every single criticism Obama made about you last night.
You people are a disgrace to this country. I've just given ten more dollars to Miller in your honor.
Keep going assholes, all you're succeeding in doing is further marginalizing your retarded party and validating every single criticism Obama made about you last night.
You people are a disgrace to this country. I've just given ten more dollars to Miller in your honor.
| EvilClosetMonkey | 2009-09-10 03:51:45 PM |
I haven't rtfa, or followed the thread, but I just donated $25 to Rob Miller's campaign.
Probably would have ignored it until I read about (and watched on YouTube) this asshat's debate with Bob Filner about invading Iraq. Wilson is a jackass.
/from PA
//yes, he's an asshat AND a jackass
Probably would have ignored it until I read about (and watched on YouTube) this asshat's debate with Bob Filner about invading Iraq. Wilson is a jackass.
/from PA
//yes, he's an asshat AND a jackass
| fosborb | 2009-09-10 03:52:40 PM |
Phil Herup:
If Wilson can't sit still on a globally-aired live feed for 45 minutes of perceived bullshiat without making an unprecedented outburst, any guidance councilor that told him he could be anything he wanted to be when he grew up should be locked up and kept far, far away from all children forever.
If Wilson can't sit still on a globally-aired live feed for 45 minutes of perceived bullshiat without making an unprecedented outburst, any guidance councilor that told him he could be anything he wanted to be when he grew up should be locked up and kept far, far away from all children forever.
| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 03:52:56 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: sabreWulf07: The_Six_Fingered_Man: sabreWulf07: Aww c'mon, my hyperbole wasn't any worse than yours. Every last one of these donors are "beyond stupid" and are only donating at the "impetus of a collective of KOS diarists"? Really? Every last one them? Will you concede that maybe a few of them are genuinely angry?
The biggest block of donations are coming from Kossacks for Rob Miller. Are you saying that the 4200 people that belong to that donation group are all from the SC-2nd? There is a donation link on the front page of dailykos for FSM's sake.
You forgot to answer my question. I didn't ask about KOS. I asked if you truly believe that not a single donor contributed out of sincere anger at Wilson, as you have asserted.
No. I believe that his mother or wife may have donated some money to his campaign out of love and kindness. But to look at the ActBlue page, the vast majority of his donations are from groups that only want to trash Rep. Wilson.
Protip: some people donate to (and vote for) a candidate simply because they despise the "other guy" in the race.
Guess that's only okay when Sarah Palin gets the check.
The biggest block of donations are coming from Kossacks for Rob Miller. Are you saying that the 4200 people that belong to that donation group are all from the SC-2nd? There is a donation link on the front page of dailykos for FSM's sake.
You forgot to answer my question. I didn't ask about KOS. I asked if you truly believe that not a single donor contributed out of sincere anger at Wilson, as you have asserted.
No. I believe that his mother or wife may have donated some money to his campaign out of love and kindness. But to look at the ActBlue page, the vast majority of his donations are from groups that only want to trash Rep. Wilson.
Protip: some people donate to (and vote for) a candidate simply because they despise the "other guy" in the race.
Guess that's only okay when Sarah Palin gets the check.
| Davey Croquette
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2009-09-10 03:54:17 PM |
Geez, Fark is the same thing everyday, huh?
There's so much sado-masochism going on in here I feel like I should be masturbating furiously.
So I will....
There's so much sado-masochism going on in here I feel like I should be masturbating furiously.
So I will....
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:54:17 PM |
rufus-t-firefly: The_Six_Fingered_Man: sabreWulf07: The_Six_Fingered_Man: sabreWulf07: Aww c'mon, my hyperbole wasn't any worse than yours. Every last one of these donors are "beyond stupid" and are only donating at the "impetus of a collective of KOS diarists"? Really? Every last one them? Will you concede that maybe a few of them are genuinely angry?
The biggest block of donations are coming from Kossacks for Rob Miller. Are you saying that the 4200 people that belong to that donation group are all from the SC-2nd? There is a donation link on the front page of dailykos for FSM's sake.
You forgot to answer my question. I didn't ask about KOS. I asked if you truly believe that not a single donor contributed out of sincere anger at Wilson, as you have asserted.
No. I believe that his mother or wife may have donated some money to his campaign out of love and kindness. But to look at the ActBlue page, the vast majority of his donations are from groups that only want to trash Rep. Wilson.
Protip: some people donate to (and vote for) a candidate simply because they despise the "other guy" in the race.
Guess that's only okay when Sarah Palin gets the check.
And I'm saying that donating for that reason is stupid. At least have a modicum of understanding of the candidate that you are donating to other than "he's not the other guy."
The biggest block of donations are coming from Kossacks for Rob Miller. Are you saying that the 4200 people that belong to that donation group are all from the SC-2nd? There is a donation link on the front page of dailykos for FSM's sake.
You forgot to answer my question. I didn't ask about KOS. I asked if you truly believe that not a single donor contributed out of sincere anger at Wilson, as you have asserted.
No. I believe that his mother or wife may have donated some money to his campaign out of love and kindness. But to look at the ActBlue page, the vast majority of his donations are from groups that only want to trash Rep. Wilson.
Protip: some people donate to (and vote for) a candidate simply because they despise the "other guy" in the race.
Guess that's only okay when Sarah Palin gets the check.
And I'm saying that donating for that reason is stupid. At least have a modicum of understanding of the candidate that you are donating to other than "he's not the other guy."
| Headso | 2009-09-10 03:54:52 PM |
Action Replay Nick: I've just given ten more dollars to Miller in your honor.
Wow, Phil Herup you should feel honored, the last time I saw someone come off like such a giant piece of shiat on an anonymous board that people would donate money to spite them was when TGOT posted around here....
Wow, Phil Herup you should feel honored, the last time I saw someone come off like such a giant piece of shiat on an anonymous board that people would donate money to spite them was when TGOT posted around here....
| thurstonxhowell | 2009-09-10 03:55:12 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Surprise, surprise. Mr. miller's biggest contributing group is Kossacks for Miller. Is it like a hive mind over there? And is it spilling over to here?
Well well well, a group of people who make it know that their mission is to get more Democrats elected provided many of the donations to get this Democrat elected.
/ In other news, water is wet.
Well well well, a group of people who make it know that their mission is to get more Democrats elected provided many of the donations to get this Democrat elected.
/ In other news, water is wet.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 03:55:45 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: How has anything I've said in this thread been a troll?
Like I've said, you have an annoying tendency to validate and defend Freeper bullsh*t.
You'll be outed soon enough. Or at least permanently regarded, if you don't change your tune.
Like I've said, you have an annoying tendency to validate and defend Freeper bullsh*t.
You'll be outed soon enough. Or at least permanently regarded, if you don't change your tune.
| Masso | 2009-09-10 03:56:05 PM |
Some Wapo: Hah - I just donated $25, and I live in freaking MONTANA.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
| clintster | 2009-09-10 03:57:11 PM |
What? No Joe Wilson shoop da whoop?
| sprag | 2009-09-10 03:58:00 PM |
/q&d
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:58:01 PM |
whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: How has anything I've said in this thread been a troll?
Like I've said, you have an annoying tendency to validate and defend Freeper bullsh*t.
You'll be outed soon enough. Or at least permanently regarded, if you don't change your tune.
Outed as what? A Republican? It's a bit too late for that. Maybe you mean a Freeper? Sorry, but I try to stay away from the lunatic fringe.
And why on earth should I give two shiats how I am permanently regarded on Fark? It doesn't seem to have affected you much. Attention spans here are as short as in real life.
Like I've said, you have an annoying tendency to validate and defend Freeper bullsh*t.
You'll be outed soon enough. Or at least permanently regarded, if you don't change your tune.
Outed as what? A Republican? It's a bit too late for that. Maybe you mean a Freeper? Sorry, but I try to stay away from the lunatic fringe.
And why on earth should I give two shiats how I am permanently regarded on Fark? It doesn't seem to have affected you much. Attention spans here are as short as in real life.
| keylock71 | 2009-09-10 03:58:25 PM |
Headso: Action Replay Nick: I've just given ten more dollars to Miller in your honor.
Wow, Phil Herup you should feel honored, the last time I saw someone come off like such a giant piece of shiat on an anonymous board that people would donate money to spite them was when TGOT posted around here....
Ha. I vaguely remember that... ACLU donations, right?
I think one of those threads lead to his epic e-breakdown and subsequent departure from Fark with that screen name.
Graphic Addiction was another classic example of that type of buffoonery...
Wow, Phil Herup you should feel honored, the last time I saw someone come off like such a giant piece of shiat on an anonymous board that people would donate money to spite them was when TGOT posted around here....
Ha. I vaguely remember that... ACLU donations, right?
I think one of those threads lead to his epic e-breakdown and subsequent departure from Fark with that screen name.
Graphic Addiction was another classic example of that type of buffoonery...
| All Apologies | 2009-09-10 03:58:29 PM |
Joe Wilson is about to appear on Hannity's radio show.
Let's see how sincere that apology was.
Let's see how sincere that apology was.
| sabreWulf07 | 2009-09-10 03:58:35 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: No. I believe that his mother or wife may have donated some money to his campaign out of love and kindness. But to look at the ActBlue page, the vast majority of his donations are from groups that only want to trash Rep. Wilson.
There seems to be a disconnect in your mind, that you can relegate huge blocks of donors as mindless followers, or KOS hangers-on that simply await orders. These are not mutually exclusive positions (donating and being sincerely angry). It's disingenuous to dismiss a "vast majority" of donors as unthinking because they contributed through a group.
I'll see your unsubstantiated dismissal and raise you one: every last one of these donors is genuinely angry with Wilson's conduct and have arrived at that conclusion on their own, through independent thought. I declare my claim to be truthier than yours.
There seems to be a disconnect in your mind, that you can relegate huge blocks of donors as mindless followers, or KOS hangers-on that simply await orders. These are not mutually exclusive positions (donating and being sincerely angry). It's disingenuous to dismiss a "vast majority" of donors as unthinking because they contributed through a group.
I'll see your unsubstantiated dismissal and raise you one: every last one of these donors is genuinely angry with Wilson's conduct and have arrived at that conclusion on their own, through independent thought. I declare my claim to be truthier than yours.
| Lumi | 2009-09-10 03:58:37 PM |
InferiousX: It's not so much a statement of "pro this random democrat" rather it is a strong statement (made with money, the loudest of all orators) that this childish foot-stomping that the right has been doing a lot of lately, is NOT ok and it's not how the American people want their representatives doing business.
I think the right is pretty bothered that savvy Internet users lean heavily both left and employed. When a pol pisses them off, they're instantly donating thousands to the opposing politician.
You don't see Freepers busting a path to raise money for Republican opponents to Dems they dislike. Actually, this thread of Freeper butthurt over Wilson raising over $400k from 11k people in 18 hours since the speech is pretty epic. (new window)
Though they seem able to raise $320k for their site every year, so who knows.
I think the right is pretty bothered that savvy Internet users lean heavily both left and employed. When a pol pisses them off, they're instantly donating thousands to the opposing politician.
You don't see Freepers busting a path to raise money for Republican opponents to Dems they dislike. Actually, this thread of Freeper butthurt over Wilson raising over $400k from 11k people in 18 hours since the speech is pretty epic. (new window)
Though they seem able to raise $320k for their site every year, so who knows.
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 03:58:51 PM |
whidbey: I guess they've resigned themselves to an "Anybody but Wilson" mentality. As the story goes, they'd rather vote for a yellow blue dog.
I agree.
whidbey: I agree, but I can't blame them for giving someone else a chance to unseat him, namely his opponent, who I would think has at least an inkling of support for the President and his party.
I agree.
whidbey: Could be wrong, who cares?
I do. All this money is now flowing towards a candidate who's merits his new 'supporters' don't actually know. Wilson may or may not be defeated because of this; the RNC will have to spend money on the race it didn't want to, that's for sure, if he's still supported by them.
Instead of pushing that money towards Rob Miller, why not push that money towards someone who's views they really support? Even, perchance, a primary challenger for Miller, if that person is actually more coherently suited to their views?
I agree.
whidbey: I agree, but I can't blame them for giving someone else a chance to unseat him, namely his opponent, who I would think has at least an inkling of support for the President and his party.
I agree.
whidbey: Could be wrong, who cares?
I do. All this money is now flowing towards a candidate who's merits his new 'supporters' don't actually know. Wilson may or may not be defeated because of this; the RNC will have to spend money on the race it didn't want to, that's for sure, if he's still supported by them.
Instead of pushing that money towards Rob Miller, why not push that money towards someone who's views they really support? Even, perchance, a primary challenger for Miller, if that person is actually more coherently suited to their views?
| Shaggy_C | 2009-09-10 03:59:26 PM |
EvilClosetMonkey: Probably would have ignored it until I read about (and watched on YouTube) this asshat's debate with Bob Filner about invading Iraq. Wilson is a jackass.
Here's the clip if anyone wants to watch. It would be comical if he weren't serious.
Here's the clip if anyone wants to watch. It would be comical if he weren't serious.
| Durinia | 2009-09-10 03:59:31 PM |
$398,697 - do I hear $400k?
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 03:59:38 PM |
Masso: Some Wapo: Hah - I just donated $25, and I live in freaking MONTANA.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
And you'll have it sent right back.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
And you'll have it sent right back.
| thurstonxhowell | 2009-09-10 04:00:02 PM |
Davey Croquette: It's difficult to be a liberal anywhere but DC.
Hmm, the Northeastern US seems to be glancing in your direction. They look puzzled.
Hmm, the Northeastern US seems to be glancing in your direction. They look puzzled.
| milesl | 2009-09-10 04:00:38 PM |
Doesnt matter. 2010 will be a Democrat bloodbath.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 04:01:01 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Outed as what? A Republican? It's a bit too late for that. Maybe you mean a Freeper? Sorry, but I try to stay away from the lunatic fringe.
No you just defend them. And I meant "troll."
And I would care about what people think here, because no one's going to be listening to what you post very soon, if not already.
No you just defend them. And I meant "troll."
And I would care about what people think here, because no one's going to be listening to what you post very soon, if not already.
| IXI Jim IXI
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2009-09-10 04:01:48 PM |
All Apologies: Joe Wilson is about to appear on Hannity's radio show.
Let's see how sincere that apology was.
You'll have to let us know. I can listen for maybe 5 mins before I want to trepan.
Let's see how sincere that apology was.
You'll have to let us know. I can listen for maybe 5 mins before I want to trepan.
| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 04:01:51 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Masso: Some Wapo: Hah - I just donated $25, and I live in freaking MONTANA.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
And you'll have it sent right back.
FAIL.
From FEC.gov: Foreign nationals are prohibited from making any contributions or expenditures in connection with any election in the U.S. Please note, however, that "green card" holders (i.e., individuals lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the U.S.) are not considered foreign nationals and, as a result, may contribute.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
And you'll have it sent right back.
FAIL.
From FEC.gov: Foreign nationals are prohibited from making any contributions or expenditures in connection with any election in the U.S. Please note, however, that "green card" holders (i.e., individuals lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the U.S.) are not considered foreign nationals and, as a result, may contribute.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 04:02:06 PM |
whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Outed as what? A Republican? It's a bit too late for that. Maybe you mean a Freeper? Sorry, but I try to stay away from the lunatic fringe.
No you just defend them. And I meant "troll."
And I would care about what people think here, because no one's going to be listening to what you post very soon, if not already.
Ok there sparky. You continue to believe that someone who might disagree with you is a Freeper Troll. That'll get you far in life. Hey, found a job yet?
No you just defend them. And I meant "troll."
And I would care about what people think here, because no one's going to be listening to what you post very soon, if not already.
Ok there sparky. You continue to believe that someone who might disagree with you is a Freeper Troll. That'll get you far in life. Hey, found a job yet?
| thurstonxhowell | 2009-09-10 04:03:13 PM |
Shaggy_C: ? The 'normal' Democrats are for balancing the budget too. Pelosi was trying to put PAYGO back into place all the way back in 2006.
b-b-but Clinton!
/ oh wait, I think I did that wrong
b-b-but Clinton!
/ oh wait, I think I did that wrong
| Britney Spear's Speculum | 2009-09-10 04:03:21 PM |
"GIVE THIS GUY, RIGHT HERE, DONATIONS"
/got nuttin
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 04:03:28 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Ok there sparky. You continue to believe that someone who might disagree with you is a Freeper Troll. That'll get you far in life. Hey, found a job yet?
Just a warning. I see you're just going to disregard it and wallow in your defiance. It's all right. It's human nature after all.
Just a warning. I see you're just going to disregard it and wallow in your defiance. It's all right. It's human nature after all.
| petyr | 2009-09-10 04:03:34 PM |
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 04:04:12 PM |
rufus-t-firefly: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Masso: Some Wapo: Hah - I just donated $25, and I live in freaking MONTANA.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
And you'll have it sent right back.
FAIL.
From FEC.gov: Foreign nationals are prohibited from making any contributions or expenditures in connection with any election in the U.S. Please note, however, that "green card" holders (i.e., individuals lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the U.S.) are not considered foreign nationals and, as a result, may contribute.
And how do you know he's not on a visa? If he does have a green card, then my mistake.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
And you'll have it sent right back.
FAIL.
From FEC.gov: Foreign nationals are prohibited from making any contributions or expenditures in connection with any election in the U.S. Please note, however, that "green card" holders (i.e., individuals lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the U.S.) are not considered foreign nationals and, as a result, may contribute.
And how do you know he's not on a visa? If he does have a green card, then my mistake.
| BMulligan | 2009-09-10 04:05:07 PM |
Davey Croquette: Geez, Fark is the same thing everyday, huh?
There's so much sado-masochism going on in here I feel like I should be masturbating furiously.
So I will....
Don't you always?
There's so much sado-masochism going on in here I feel like I should be masturbating furiously.
So I will....
Don't you always?
| Nina_Hartley's_Ass | 2009-09-10 04:05:09 PM |
milesl: Doesnt matter. 2010 will be a Democrat bloodbath.
Just like when all of Hillary's supporters voted for McCain, huh?
Just like when all of Hillary's supporters voted for McCain, huh?
| Action Replay Nick
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2009-09-10 04:05:16 PM |
Britney Spear's Speculum
I LOL'd.
I LOL'd.
| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 04:05:16 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: rufus-t-firefly: The_Six_Fingered_Man: But to look at the ActBlue page, the vast majority of his donations are from groups that only want to trash Rep. Wilson.
Protip: some people donate to (and vote for) a candidate simply because they despise the "other guy" in the race.
Guess that's only okay when Sarah Palin gets the check.
And I'm saying that donating for that reason is stupid. At least have a modicum of understanding of the candidate that you are donating to other than "he's not the other guy."
Which is why I referred to Sarah Palin. Bailing out on her oath of office just because it was too much trouble isn't exactly strong leadership, yet certain WHAARGARBLists still cut checks to her PAC.
Protip: some people donate to (and vote for) a candidate simply because they despise the "other guy" in the race.
Guess that's only okay when Sarah Palin gets the check.
And I'm saying that donating for that reason is stupid. At least have a modicum of understanding of the candidate that you are donating to other than "he's not the other guy."
Which is why I referred to Sarah Palin. Bailing out on her oath of office just because it was too much trouble isn't exactly strong leadership, yet certain WHAARGARBLists still cut checks to her PAC.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 04:06:14 PM |
whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Ok there sparky. You continue to believe that someone who might disagree with you is a Freeper Troll. That'll get you far in life. Hey, found a job yet?
Just a warning. I see you're just going to disregard it and wallow in your defiance. It's all right. It's human nature after all.
OH NOES!!!! I've been warned by whidbey! Whatever shall I do? Sorry massa, I mean no disrespect to the Godfather of Fark Trolls. I shant cross the Almighty whidbey/Skookum in the future.
Just a warning. I see you're just going to disregard it and wallow in your defiance. It's all right. It's human nature after all.
OH NOES!!!! I've been warned by whidbey! Whatever shall I do? Sorry massa, I mean no disrespect to the Godfather of Fark Trolls. I shant cross the Almighty whidbey/Skookum in the future.
| All Apologies | 2009-09-10 04:06:17 PM |
milesl: Doesnt matter. 2010 will be a Democrat bloodbath.
You guys say this in every situation, without fail. There's a lot to be done before now and 2010.
Besides, how the fark would be benefit by putting Republicans back into power? They got us into this mess.
You guys say this in every situation, without fail. There's a lot to be done before now and 2010.
Besides, how the fark would be benefit by putting Republicans back into power? They got us into this mess.
| Headso | 2009-09-10 04:06:31 PM |
keylock71: Headso: Action Replay Nick: I've just given ten more dollars to Miller in your honor.
Wow, Phil Herup you should feel honored, the last time I saw someone come off like such a giant piece of shiat on an anonymous board that people would donate money to spite them was when TGOT posted around here....
Ha. I vaguely remember that... ACLU donations, right?
I think one of those threads lead to his epic e-breakdown and subsequent departure from Fark with that screen name.
Graphic Addiction was another classic example of that type of buffoonery...
yeah, heh, I couldn't remember the specifics but you're right it was ACLU...
Wow, Phil Herup you should feel honored, the last time I saw someone come off like such a giant piece of shiat on an anonymous board that people would donate money to spite them was when TGOT posted around here....
Ha. I vaguely remember that... ACLU donations, right?
I think one of those threads lead to his epic e-breakdown and subsequent departure from Fark with that screen name.
Graphic Addiction was another classic example of that type of buffoonery...
yeah, heh, I couldn't remember the specifics but you're right it was ACLU...
| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 04:06:38 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: rufus-t-firefly: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Masso: Some Wapo: Hah - I just donated $25, and I live in freaking MONTANA.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
And you'll have it sent right back.
FAIL.
From FEC.gov: Foreign nationals are prohibited from making any contributions or expenditures in connection with any election in the U.S. Please note, however, that "green card" holders (i.e., individuals lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the U.S.) are not considered foreign nationals and, as a result, may contribute.
And how do you know he's not on a visa? If he does have a green card, then my mistake.
You don't know either. Try not to assume facts not in evidence and you won't look like a kneejerk douchebag.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
And you'll have it sent right back.
FAIL.
From FEC.gov: Foreign nationals are prohibited from making any contributions or expenditures in connection with any election in the U.S. Please note, however, that "green card" holders (i.e., individuals lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the U.S.) are not considered foreign nationals and, as a result, may contribute.
And how do you know he's not on a visa? If he does have a green card, then my mistake.
You don't know either. Try not to assume facts not in evidence and you won't look like a kneejerk douchebag.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 04:07:17 PM |
rufus-t-firefly: The_Six_Fingered_Man: rufus-t-firefly: The_Six_Fingered_Man: But to look at the ActBlue page, the vast majority of his donations are from groups that only want to trash Rep. Wilson.
Protip: some people donate to (and vote for) a candidate simply because they despise the "other guy" in the race.
Guess that's only okay when Sarah Palin gets the check.
And I'm saying that donating for that reason is stupid. At least have a modicum of understanding of the candidate that you are donating to other than "he's not the other guy."
Which is why I referred to Sarah Palin. Bailing out on her oath of office just because it was too much trouble isn't exactly strong leadership, yet certain WHAARGARBLists still cut checks to her PAC.
And yet all those idiots that donate to SarahPAC know exactly where she stands on the issues, as she's been in the national spotlight for months now.
Protip: some people donate to (and vote for) a candidate simply because they despise the "other guy" in the race.
Guess that's only okay when Sarah Palin gets the check.
And I'm saying that donating for that reason is stupid. At least have a modicum of understanding of the candidate that you are donating to other than "he's not the other guy."
Which is why I referred to Sarah Palin. Bailing out on her oath of office just because it was too much trouble isn't exactly strong leadership, yet certain WHAARGARBLists still cut checks to her PAC.
And yet all those idiots that donate to SarahPAC know exactly where she stands on the issues, as she's been in the national spotlight for months now.
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 04:07:43 PM |
whidbey: Just a warning. I see you're just going to disregard it and wallow in your defiance. It's all right. It's human nature after all.
He's the most reasonable Republican on Fark, and honest enough to call himself a Republican, too.
By castigating him, you're not really doing much for others' perception of yourself as a fair person.
He's the most reasonable Republican on Fark, and honest enough to call himself a Republican, too.
By castigating him, you're not really doing much for others' perception of yourself as a fair person.
| All Apologies | 2009-09-10 04:08:16 PM |
IXI Jim IXI: You'll have to let us know. I can listen for maybe 5 mins before I want to trepan.
It's not easy, Hannity's voice has killed people.
It's not easy, Hannity's voice has killed people.
| mynameismark | 2009-09-10 04:08:16 PM |
Phil Herup: meathome: Dissent may be the highest form of patriotism, but Wilson's behavior shows that he is unsuitable for his office.
Meh.... his head was probably about to asplode from the BS the President was shoveling.
If he is gonna lie... he should be prepared for this.
Oh look. Another one of Phil's 2 sentence, quadruple-spaced, look at me threadjack.
Meh.... his head was probably about to asplode from the BS the President was shoveling.
If he is gonna lie... he should be prepared for this.
Oh look. Another one of Phil's 2 sentence, quadruple-spaced, look at me threadjack.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 04:08:17 PM |
| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 04:08:46 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Ok there sparky. You continue to believe that someone who might disagree with you is a Freeper Troll. That'll get you far in life. Hey, found a job yet?
Just a warning. I see you're just going to disregard it and wallow in your defiance. It's all right. It's human nature after all.
OH NOES!!!! I've been warned by whidbey! Whatever shall I do? Sorry massa, I mean no disrespect to the Godfather of Fark Trolls. I shant cross the Almighty whidbey/Skookum in the future.
"Have vowed never to troll someone myself."
Just a warning. I see you're just going to disregard it and wallow in your defiance. It's all right. It's human nature after all.
OH NOES!!!! I've been warned by whidbey! Whatever shall I do? Sorry massa, I mean no disrespect to the Godfather of Fark Trolls. I shant cross the Almighty whidbey/Skookum in the future.
"Have vowed never to troll someone myself."
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 04:09:01 PM |
Obdicut: whidbey: Just a warning. I see you're just going to disregard it and wallow in your defiance. It's all right. It's human nature after all.
He's the most reasonable Republican on Fark, and honest enough to call himself a Republican, too.
By castigating him, you're not really doing much for others' perception of yourself as a fair person.
To whidbey, I am Satan Incarnate, the embodiment of all things evil and wrong with the world. Oh, and a troll and Freeper shill.
He's the most reasonable Republican on Fark, and honest enough to call himself a Republican, too.
By castigating him, you're not really doing much for others' perception of yourself as a fair person.
To whidbey, I am Satan Incarnate, the embodiment of all things evil and wrong with the world. Oh, and a troll and Freeper shill.
| Britney Spear's Speculum | 2009-09-10 04:09:27 PM |
Rant time:
This is what I don't get. If the Dems can't successfully pass their own version of health care legislation that the voters want, the voters are gonna remedy the situation by voting republican?
So lemme get this straight, the people you want to fix something (democrats) end up farking up so you vote in people (republicans) who definitely aren't going to fix said something?
Sure the dems are pussies and bend easily to special interest, but you'd rather elect morally bankrupt people who bang the morality drum AND bend easily to more powerful special interest?
This is what I don't get. If the Dems can't successfully pass their own version of health care legislation that the voters want, the voters are gonna remedy the situation by voting republican?
So lemme get this straight, the people you want to fix something (democrats) end up farking up so you vote in people (republicans) who definitely aren't going to fix said something?
Sure the dems are pussies and bend easily to special interest, but you'd rather elect morally bankrupt people who bang the morality drum AND bend easily to more powerful special interest?
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 04:09:40 PM |
Obdicut: He's the most reasonable Republican on Fark, and honest enough to call himself a Republican, too.
Meh. I don't trust him. "Reasonable" doesn't mean apologizing for the nutcases in your party and making their points for them.
Hubiestubert is reasonable. Even Nabb is more reasonable.
Meh. I don't trust him. "Reasonable" doesn't mean apologizing for the nutcases in your party and making their points for them.
Hubiestubert is reasonable. Even Nabb is more reasonable.
| skullkrusher | 2009-09-10 04:09:58 PM |
wow, in 8 hours they raised enough money to insure roughly 10 families of 4 for a year even at these inflated prices?? Awesome!
wait, what? That money was donated to unseat some jackass US Rep from a podunk state... oh, maybe we really can't be trusted to spend our money as we see fit.
wait, what? That money was donated to unseat some jackass US Rep from a podunk state... oh, maybe we really can't be trusted to spend our money as we see fit.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 04:10:01 PM |
rufus-t-firefly: The_Six_Fingered_Man: whidbey: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Ok there sparky. You continue to believe that someone who might disagree with you is a Freeper Troll. That'll get you far in life. Hey, found a job yet?
Just a warning. I see you're just going to disregard it and wallow in your defiance. It's all right. It's human nature after all.
OH NOES!!!! I've been warned by whidbey! Whatever shall I do? Sorry massa, I mean no disrespect to the Godfather of Fark Trolls. I shant cross the Almighty whidbey/Skookum in the future.
"Have vowed never to troll someone myself."
So maybe you can point me to where I've been trolling. Or do you mistake sarcasm and downright snark as trolling?
Just a warning. I see you're just going to disregard it and wallow in your defiance. It's all right. It's human nature after all.
OH NOES!!!! I've been warned by whidbey! Whatever shall I do? Sorry massa, I mean no disrespect to the Godfather of Fark Trolls. I shant cross the Almighty whidbey/Skookum in the future.
"Have vowed never to troll someone myself."
So maybe you can point me to where I've been trolling. Or do you mistake sarcasm and downright snark as trolling?
| Linux_Yes
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2009-09-10 04:10:45 PM |
Ironic that a crony capitalist pig liar is calling Obama a liar.
Wilson's only concern is his and his 'friends in the healthcare industry's' money. that is all they are interested in.
Wilson's only concern is his and his 'friends in the healthcare industry's' money. that is all they are interested in.
| Gosling
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2009-09-10 04:11:00 PM |
$408,489. In what, 20 hours? For a House race?
Criminy. That's about half of what some people spend for the entire race.
Criminy. That's about half of what some people spend for the entire race.
| All Apologies | 2009-09-10 04:11:56 PM |
JW is a big fan of Hannity's.
JW thanks Hannity for educating Americans.
SH thanks JW for standing up to mean Dems who blah blah.
JW read some version of a bill he didn't specify that said something different to what the President was saying last night.
SH goes on to mention how (unnamed bill listeners can't verify) does various bad things.
JW magnanimously chose to apologize before being asked. He know wants to work together in a bi-partisan way.
SH talks bi-partisanship, mentions only what the right wants, tort reform, deregulation, and tax cuts.
JW thanks Hannity for educating Americans.
SH thanks JW for standing up to mean Dems who blah blah.
JW read some version of a bill he didn't specify that said something different to what the President was saying last night.
SH goes on to mention how (unnamed bill listeners can't verify) does various bad things.
JW magnanimously chose to apologize before being asked. He know wants to work together in a bi-partisan way.
SH talks bi-partisanship, mentions only what the right wants, tort reform, deregulation, and tax cuts.
| Linux_Yes
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2009-09-10 04:12:03 PM |
Republicans are running out of words and the ideas/thought behind them.
now, they only have their feces to throw around.
now, they only have their feces to throw around.
| Masso | 2009-09-10 04:13:14 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: rufus-t-firefly: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Masso: Some Wapo: Hah - I just donated $25, and I live in freaking MONTANA.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
And you'll have it sent right back.
FAIL.
From FEC.gov: Foreign nationals are prohibited from making any contributions or expenditures in connection with any election in the U.S. Please note, however, that "green card" holders (i.e., individuals lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the U.S.) are not considered foreign nationals and, as a result, may contribute.
And how do you know he's not on a visa? If he does have a green card, then my mistake.
Gentlemen, I don't have greencard, but my American friend who can contribute surely wouldn't mind helping me out.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
And you'll have it sent right back.
FAIL.
From FEC.gov: Foreign nationals are prohibited from making any contributions or expenditures in connection with any election in the U.S. Please note, however, that "green card" holders (i.e., individuals lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the U.S.) are not considered foreign nationals and, as a result, may contribute.
And how do you know he's not on a visa? If he does have a green card, then my mistake.
Gentlemen, I don't have greencard, but my American friend who can contribute surely wouldn't mind helping me out.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 04:13:59 PM |
Masso: The_Six_Fingered_Man: rufus-t-firefly: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Masso: Some Wapo: Hah - I just donated $25, and I live in freaking MONTANA.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
And you'll have it sent right back.
FAIL.
From FEC.gov: Foreign nationals are prohibited from making any contributions or expenditures in connection with any election in the U.S. Please note, however, that "green card" holders (i.e., individuals lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the U.S.) are not considered foreign nationals and, as a result, may contribute.
And how do you know he's not on a visa? If he does have a green card, then my mistake.
Gentlemen, I don't have greencard, but my American friend who can contribute surely wouldn't mind helping me out.
Be careful with that. Assisting a foreign national with breaking campaign finance law carries some stiff penalties.
Suck it, Wilson; suck it long, suck it hard.
I'm not even American (just working here and paying tax), and I'm thinking of sending him a buck or two.
And you'll have it sent right back.
FAIL.
From FEC.gov: Foreign nationals are prohibited from making any contributions or expenditures in connection with any election in the U.S. Please note, however, that "green card" holders (i.e., individuals lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the U.S.) are not considered foreign nationals and, as a result, may contribute.
And how do you know he's not on a visa? If he does have a green card, then my mistake.
Gentlemen, I don't have greencard, but my American friend who can contribute surely wouldn't mind helping me out.
Be careful with that. Assisting a foreign national with breaking campaign finance law carries some stiff penalties.
| Britney Spear's Speculum | 2009-09-10 04:14:19 PM |
| All Apologies | 2009-09-10 04:14:40 PM |
JW claims to have been working with Dems, but they won't listen.
SH spouts more discredited information about stuff that is not going to happen in unnamed bills.
JW, it's the Dems who are not working with the Rs.
SH just wants to talk about substance. Lists more discredited garbage from unnammed bills.
JW wants to take more time. States that Palins position on Death Panels was not incorrect.
SH, too many pages to read.
JW we need more time. Scary government will have one person deciding everyones health care fate.
SH spouts more discredited information about stuff that is not going to happen in unnamed bills.
JW, it's the Dems who are not working with the Rs.
SH just wants to talk about substance. Lists more discredited garbage from unnammed bills.
JW wants to take more time. States that Palins position on Death Panels was not incorrect.
SH, too many pages to read.
JW we need more time. Scary government will have one person deciding everyones health care fate.
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 04:15:30 PM |
whidbey: Hubiestubert is reasonable. Even Nabb is more reasonable.
Nabb1 constantly kneejerkedly attacks Democrats and supports Republicans. I have no clue what you're talking about. He uses weasel words, false comparisons, stylistic huffiness, and engages in strawman attacks like he owns a hay silo. He puts forwards the same dishonest responses about the public option no matter how often he's shown they're dishonest. I have no idea why you think he's resonable.
Hubiestubert is a very nifty guy, and I like him. I'd say he's also a very reasonable Republican, I just haven't had much direct discourse with him.
I'm not sure what you hope to gain by insisting the_Six_Fingered_Man is a freeper-defender. So far, all it's done for me is make me wonder if you're having a bad day.
I'm personally having a great day, since Obama finally supported the public option in a very cogent manner.
Nabb1 constantly kneejerkedly attacks Democrats and supports Republicans. I have no clue what you're talking about. He uses weasel words, false comparisons, stylistic huffiness, and engages in strawman attacks like he owns a hay silo. He puts forwards the same dishonest responses about the public option no matter how often he's shown they're dishonest. I have no idea why you think he's resonable.
Hubiestubert is a very nifty guy, and I like him. I'd say he's also a very reasonable Republican, I just haven't had much direct discourse with him.
I'm not sure what you hope to gain by insisting the_Six_Fingered_Man is a freeper-defender. So far, all it's done for me is make me wonder if you're having a bad day.
I'm personally having a great day, since Obama finally supported the public option in a very cogent manner.
| All Apologies | 2009-09-10 04:16:55 PM |
Enough of that garbage, JW isn't sorry about shiat.
This entire interview has been a reiteration of every false talking point the Rs ever produced.
The reason they want to go slower on reform is to give them more time to spread their garbage and confuse people.
SH thinks Obamas speech last night was a flop.
It's like an alternate reality.
This entire interview has been a reiteration of every false talking point the Rs ever produced.
The reason they want to go slower on reform is to give them more time to spread their garbage and confuse people.
SH thinks Obamas speech last night was a flop.
It's like an alternate reality.
| Jackpot777
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2009-09-10 04:18:18 PM |
$412,245
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 04:18:19 PM |
Well, if he was $400,000 in debt like Rush said, he isn't anymore.
| Office Ninja | 2009-09-10 04:18:47 PM |
During a 2005 address to both Houses of Congress, Democrats booed and hissed President Bush.
At the time, the national press (CNN, CBS, ABC) said that it reminded them of the Parliament in England and that they never seen or heard anything like that before.
So when the national press says today that they had never witnessed such poor decorum during Barry Obama's speech they are not quite correct (or honest).
At the time, the national press (CNN, CBS, ABC) said that it reminded them of the Parliament in England and that they never seen or heard anything like that before.
So when the national press says today that they had never witnessed such poor decorum during Barry Obama's speech they are not quite correct (or honest).
| thenateman | 2009-09-10 04:19:33 PM |
All Apologies: SH thinks Obamas speech last night was a flop.
It's like an alternate reality.
Last night's was much better than the 30 previous health care speeches he has given. *rolls eyes*
It's like an alternate reality.
Last night's was much better than the 30 previous health care speeches he has given. *rolls eyes*
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 04:19:42 PM |
Obdicut: I'm not sure what you hope to gain by insisting the_Six_Fingered_Man is a freeper-defender. So far, all it's done for me is make me wonder if you're having a bad day.
I am, and maybe I'll just lay off on him at your urging. But I still suspect he's not as "reasonable" as you think.
I am, and maybe I'll just lay off on him at your urging. But I still suspect he's not as "reasonable" as you think.
| HeartBurnKid | 2009-09-10 04:20:04 PM |
| IXI Jim IXI
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2009-09-10 04:20:11 PM |
All Apologies: SH talks bi-partisanship, mentions only what the right wants, tort reform, deregulation, and tax cuts.
I hear SH is bipartisan...except when it comes to women.
I hear SH is bipartisan...except when it comes to women.
| Wii.Tard | 2009-09-10 04:20:13 PM |
| Atanarjuat2112 | 2009-09-10 04:20:38 PM |
Congressman Wilson spoke truth to power, giving voice to the millions of Americans who are against the country's perilous slide into socialism what we really think of President Zero's "health reform" jackalope.
-A
-A
| Shaggy_C | 2009-09-10 04:21:01 PM |
| fosborb | 2009-09-10 04:22:07 PM |
Obdicut: Instead of pushing that money towards Rob Miller, why not push that money towards someone who's views they really support? Even, perchance, a primary challenger for Miller, if that person is actually more coherently suited to their views?
Sometimes -- very, very rarely -- voting for "anyone but" is smart politics.
Heaping donations on Wilson's opponent (and honestly, that's all Miller is at this point) right now is perpetuating a message of the rejection of Wilson, not of the approval of Miller.
I can't think of a more effective means available to me to convey that message immediately to Wilson, who is already in power and able to shape national policy to his douchey whims.
My desire at least is to help Congressional leadership in their decision to treat Wilson, and the town hall criers he represents, as politically toxic.
Sometimes -- very, very rarely -- voting for "anyone but" is smart politics.
Heaping donations on Wilson's opponent (and honestly, that's all Miller is at this point) right now is perpetuating a message of the rejection of Wilson, not of the approval of Miller.
I can't think of a more effective means available to me to convey that message immediately to Wilson, who is already in power and able to shape national policy to his douchey whims.
My desire at least is to help Congressional leadership in their decision to treat Wilson, and the town hall criers he represents, as politically toxic.
| All Apologies | 2009-09-10 04:22:18 PM |
The interview is concluded with a slew of examples drawing false equivalences between times when Bush was criticized and JW heckling the President during an address to Congress. SH knows JW was right about what he did, because a D or two criticized Bush. JW feels vindicated and thanks SH for his support. JW is not a right wing hero.
Ever wonder where the false equivalency that shows up in these threads all the time comes from?
Ever wonder where the false equivalency that shows up in these threads all the time comes from?
| HeartBurnKid | 2009-09-10 04:22:28 PM |
Office Ninja: During a 2005 address to both Houses of Congress, Democrats booed and hissed President Bush.
At the time, the national press (CNN, CBS, ABC) said that it reminded them of the Parliament in England and that they never seen or heard anything like that before.
So when the national press says today that they had never witnessed such poor decorum during Barry Obama's speech they are not quite correct (or honest).
So, which democrat interrupted GWB's speech with a loud outburst calling him a liar?
Oh wait, that's right, none.
At the time, the national press (CNN, CBS, ABC) said that it reminded them of the Parliament in England and that they never seen or heard anything like that before.
So when the national press says today that they had never witnessed such poor decorum during Barry Obama's speech they are not quite correct (or honest).
So, which democrat interrupted GWB's speech with a loud outburst calling him a liar?
Oh wait, that's right, none.
| All Apologies | 2009-09-10 04:24:46 PM |
All Apologies: JW is not a right wing hero.
now a right wing hero.
Apologize to the MSM, then go straight to the right wing media and spin yourself to be a hero, with the loving adoration and support of shiat works, it's not right, but it's worked for a long time.
now a right wing hero.
Apologize to the MSM, then go straight to the right wing media and spin yourself to be a hero, with the loving adoration and support of shiat works, it's not right, but it's worked for a long time.
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 04:25:07 PM |
whidbey: I am, and maybe I'll just lay off on him at your urging. But I still suspect he's not as "reasonable" as you think.
I'm more concerned, if I can be internet-emotional-- that you don't seem to be as happy as I'd expect after Obama's speech. Was it less than you had hoped? It was more than I'd hoped.
fosborb: Heaping donations on Wilson's opponent (and honestly, that's all Miller is at this point) right now is perpetuating a message of the rejection of Wilson, not of the approval of Miller.
I agree. But the money is money, and the money itself will be used for a message that is the approval of Miller.
The act of donating to Miller: A blow against Wilson.
Miller actually having that money: Support of Miller.
Make sense?
I'm more concerned, if I can be internet-emotional-- that you don't seem to be as happy as I'd expect after Obama's speech. Was it less than you had hoped? It was more than I'd hoped.
fosborb: Heaping donations on Wilson's opponent (and honestly, that's all Miller is at this point) right now is perpetuating a message of the rejection of Wilson, not of the approval of Miller.
I agree. But the money is money, and the money itself will be used for a message that is the approval of Miller.
The act of donating to Miller: A blow against Wilson.
Miller actually having that money: Support of Miller.
Make sense?
| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 04:25:47 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: And yet all those idiots that donate to SarahPAC know exactly where she stands on the issues, as she's been in the national spotlight for months now.
How about her stance on the issues versus her actions?
She's anti-choice...though she freely admits that she CHOSE to have Trig (new window).
She's against the federal government taking so much money from hard-working people...while Alaska receives $14,000 per capita in federal tax money.
She attacked our future president by intimating that he was un-American...even though her husband was part of an Alaska secessionist group AND she addressed an Alaskan Independence Party convention (new window) as governor.
She's against pork barrel spending...except for the ones she requested.
She's against cap and trade...despite the fact that a year ago she was part of a campaign that was in favor of the same.
She thinks abstinence only education is the way to go...even though her own daughter got knocked up under her roof.
If you support a candidate for her positions - even when she either doesn't practice them or has shown them to be a failure - you're just as uninformed as people blindly giving money to "the other guy."
How about her stance on the issues versus her actions?
She's anti-choice...though she freely admits that she CHOSE to have Trig (new window).
She's against the federal government taking so much money from hard-working people...while Alaska receives $14,000 per capita in federal tax money.
She attacked our future president by intimating that he was un-American...even though her husband was part of an Alaska secessionist group AND she addressed an Alaskan Independence Party convention (new window) as governor.
She's against pork barrel spending...except for the ones she requested.
She's against cap and trade...despite the fact that a year ago she was part of a campaign that was in favor of the same.
She thinks abstinence only education is the way to go...even though her own daughter got knocked up under her roof.
If you support a candidate for her positions - even when she either doesn't practice them or has shown them to be a failure - you're just as uninformed as people blindly giving money to "the other guy."
| gilgigamesh | 2009-09-10 04:26:46 PM |
Sean Hannity just had Joe Wilson on. He was contrite, but he didn't miss a beat to start shamelessly repeating the lies about death panels and giving illegal immigrants free health care.
Hannity, never one to shy away from his inner martyr complex, started blubbering that a conspiracy of democrats are 'targeting' Wilson - as if fundraising is some kind of antidemocratic plot against america. He's begging his audience to donate to Wilson's reelection campaign.
My response was to go immediately to Act Blue and donate to Rob Miller's campaign.
I did; you can too!
Hannity, never one to shy away from his inner martyr complex, started blubbering that a conspiracy of democrats are 'targeting' Wilson - as if fundraising is some kind of antidemocratic plot against america. He's begging his audience to donate to Wilson's reelection campaign.
My response was to go immediately to Act Blue and donate to Rob Miller's campaign.
I did; you can too!
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 04:27:02 PM |
All Apologies: now a right wing hero.
Apologize to the MSM, then go straight to the right wing media and spin yourself to be a hero, with the loving adoration and support of shiat works, it's not right, but it's worked for a long time.
Well, he still has to appeal to his base. Otherwise he looks like an arse to everyone else, and a coward to his base for apologizing.
Apologize to the MSM, then go straight to the right wing media and spin yourself to be a hero, with the loving adoration and support of shiat works, it's not right, but it's worked for a long time.
Well, he still has to appeal to his base. Otherwise he looks like an arse to everyone else, and a coward to his base for apologizing.
| Headso | 2009-09-10 04:28:13 PM |
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 04:29:29 PM |
Headso: gilgigamesh: Sean Hannity just had Joe Wilson on.
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
| NuclearWinter | 2009-09-10 04:29:38 PM |
gilgigamesh: Sean Hannity just had Joe Wilson on. He was contrite, but he didn't miss a beat to start shamelessly repeating the lies about death panels and giving illegal immigrants free health care.
Hannity, never one to shy away from his inner martyr complex, started blubbering that a conspiracy of democrats are 'targeting' Wilson - as if fundraising is some kind of antidemocratic plot against america. He's begging his audience to donate to Wilson's reelection campaign.
My response was to go immediately to Act Blue and donate to Rob Miller's campaign.
I did; you can too!
Yeah, the Freeper meltdown (new window) has been amusing to say the least.
/$418,833
Hannity, never one to shy away from his inner martyr complex, started blubbering that a conspiracy of democrats are 'targeting' Wilson - as if fundraising is some kind of antidemocratic plot against america. He's begging his audience to donate to Wilson's reelection campaign.
My response was to go immediately to Act Blue and donate to Rob Miller's campaign.
I did; you can too!
Yeah, the Freeper meltdown (new window) has been amusing to say the least.
/$418,833
| Nina_Hartley's_Ass | 2009-09-10 04:29:50 PM |
rufus-t-firefly: If you support a candidate for her positions - even when she either doesn't practice them or has shown them to be a failure - you're just as uninformed as people blindly giving money to "the other guy."
I guess I could support her for a reverse-cowgirl.
I guess I could support her for a reverse-cowgirl.
| captain_heroic44 | 2009-09-10 04:29:59 PM |
The reason conservatives are so belligerent is that they know they've lost. Not only the government for now, but the health care debate (reform will pass), and the government for the next generation. Imagine the frustration after having built up such a sense of entitlement for the past 30 years. Then to have that sense of entitlement dashed against cold, hard reality. I almost feel sorry for conservatives.
Almost.
Almost.
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 04:31:06 PM |
I think my favorite group that has donated to Miller so far is
"Retiring Ass Clown Joe Wilson" who donated $115
"Retiring Ass Clown Joe Wilson" who donated $115
| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 04:34:56 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man:
How has anything I've said in this thread been a troll? Or do you classify "troll" as "something that I don't agree with?"
The_Six_Fingered_Man:
So maybe you can point me to where I've been trolling. Or do you mistake sarcasm and downright snark as trolling?
That's because he's not a member on Congress, you dolt.
Personal insult = trolling.
Skookum wants to talk about establishing credibility? Hilarious.
Referring to handles that have not posted in this thread? Trolling.
OH NOES!!!! I've been warned by whidbey! Whatever shall I do? Sorry massa, I mean no disrespect to the Godfather of Fark Trolls. I shant cross the Almighty whidbey/Skookum in the future.
See above. Some snark, but it's trolling snark.
How has anything I've said in this thread been a troll? Or do you classify "troll" as "something that I don't agree with?"
The_Six_Fingered_Man:
So maybe you can point me to where I've been trolling. Or do you mistake sarcasm and downright snark as trolling?
That's because he's not a member on Congress, you dolt.
Personal insult = trolling.
Skookum wants to talk about establishing credibility? Hilarious.
Referring to handles that have not posted in this thread? Trolling.
OH NOES!!!! I've been warned by whidbey! Whatever shall I do? Sorry massa, I mean no disrespect to the Godfather of Fark Trolls. I shant cross the Almighty whidbey/Skookum in the future.
See above. Some snark, but it's trolling snark.
| fosborb | 2009-09-10 04:35:40 PM |
Obdicut: Make sense?
Absolutely, and in response I'm going to use my favorite ever Rumsfeld quote for inspiration: sometimes a known unknown is better than a known known. Wilson is now very well known...
Also, not spending $20 today will unfortunately not translate into a $20 donation for a Wellstone-ite next year. Rather, that unspent $20 would have been translated into a round of beers later night.
Absolutely, and in response I'm going to use my favorite ever Rumsfeld quote for inspiration: sometimes a known unknown is better than a known known. Wilson is now very well known...
Also, not spending $20 today will unfortunately not translate into a $20 donation for a Wellstone-ite next year. Rather, that unspent $20 would have been translated into a round of beers later night.
| Isitoveryet | 2009-09-10 04:38:38 PM |
NuclearWinter:
Freeper meltdown (new window) has been amusing to say the least.
Freepers, lacking both the motor skills and the cognitive ability to count on their fingers.
Freeper meltdown (new window) has been amusing to say the least.
Freepers, lacking both the motor skills and the cognitive ability to count on their fingers.
| king cranium maximus IV | 2009-09-10 04:38:40 PM |
| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 04:39:56 PM |
Office Ninja: During a 2005 address to both Houses of Congress, Democrats booed and hissed President Bush.
At the time, the national press (CNN, CBS, ABC) said that it reminded them of the Parliament in England and that they never seen or heard anything like that before.
So when the national press says today that they had never witnessed such poor decorum during Barry Obama's speech they are not quite correct (or honest).
Did anyone interrupt the president by shouting an insult directly at him?
And prior to Bush in 2005, there was this:
More info here
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/us/politics/10wilson.html (link not working)
When President Clinton addressed Congress in 1993 to push his health care plan, "both sides of the aisle received the President warmly," according to a report in The New York Times at the time.
"But when he began talking about raising taxes on tobacco to pay for the plan, or the need to cut Medicare and Medicaid, many on the Republican side of the aisle began snickering, shaking their heads skeptically and making faces at each other," the article said.
At the time, the national press (CNN, CBS, ABC) said that it reminded them of the Parliament in England and that they never seen or heard anything like that before.
So when the national press says today that they had never witnessed such poor decorum during Barry Obama's speech they are not quite correct (or honest).
Did anyone interrupt the president by shouting an insult directly at him?
And prior to Bush in 2005, there was this:
More info here
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/us/politics/10wilson.html (link not working)
When President Clinton addressed Congress in 1993 to push his health care plan, "both sides of the aisle received the President warmly," according to a report in The New York Times at the time.
"But when he began talking about raising taxes on tobacco to pay for the plan, or the need to cut Medicare and Medicaid, many on the Republican side of the aisle began snickering, shaking their heads skeptically and making faces at each other," the article said.
| HeartBurnKid | 2009-09-10 04:41:13 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Headso: gilgigamesh: Sean Hannity just had Joe Wilson on.
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
There aren't any Fark Republicans. There's only Fark Independents™ and Fark Libertarians™ that just happen to hate the Democrats, venerate Reagan, and vote a straight Republican ticket in every single election.
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
There aren't any Fark Republicans. There's only Fark Independents™ and Fark Libertarians™ that just happen to hate the Democrats, venerate Reagan, and vote a straight Republican ticket in every single election.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 04:42:31 PM |
rufus-t-firefly: The_Six_Fingered_Man:
How has anything I've said in this thread been a troll? Or do you classify "troll" as "something that I don't agree with?"
The_Six_Fingered_Man:
So maybe you can point me to where I've been trolling. Or do you mistake sarcasm and downright snark as trolling?
That's because he's not a member on Congress, you dolt.
Personal insult = trolling.
Skookum wants to talk about establishing credibility? Hilarious.
Referring to handles that have not posted in this thread? Trolling.
OH NOES!!!! I've been warned by whidbey! Whatever shall I do? Sorry massa, I mean no disrespect to the Godfather of Fark Trolls. I shant cross the Almighty whidbey/Skookum in the future.
See above. Some snark, but it's trolling snark.
Gotcha. So now pointing out stupidity is trolling.
Referring to a well known troll alt is trolling. Snarking about that troll alt is also trolling.
You have an odd definition of trolling. I, and most of the internet I would imagine, define trolling as purposely stating an opinion that you do not personally hold for the sole purpose of eliciting fired up responses.
How has anything I've said in this thread been a troll? Or do you classify "troll" as "something that I don't agree with?"
The_Six_Fingered_Man:
So maybe you can point me to where I've been trolling. Or do you mistake sarcasm and downright snark as trolling?
That's because he's not a member on Congress, you dolt.
Personal insult = trolling.
Skookum wants to talk about establishing credibility? Hilarious.
Referring to handles that have not posted in this thread? Trolling.
OH NOES!!!! I've been warned by whidbey! Whatever shall I do? Sorry massa, I mean no disrespect to the Godfather of Fark Trolls. I shant cross the Almighty whidbey/Skookum in the future.
See above. Some snark, but it's trolling snark.
Gotcha. So now pointing out stupidity is trolling.
Referring to a well known troll alt is trolling. Snarking about that troll alt is also trolling.
You have an odd definition of trolling. I, and most of the internet I would imagine, define trolling as purposely stating an opinion that you do not personally hold for the sole purpose of eliciting fired up responses.
| Roger Arseways | 2009-09-10 04:42:43 PM |
from freeperland:
" 11,000 individual grassroots contributions "
The stench of ACORN is in the air...
(wonder how much of that $400k is taxpayer money...)
oh my god, it's like one of those pull-string dolls that can only say a few simple things!
" 11,000 individual grassroots contributions "
The stench of ACORN is in the air...
(wonder how much of that $400k is taxpayer money...)
oh my god, it's like one of those pull-string dolls that can only say a few simple things!
| vudukungfu | 2009-09-10 04:43:44 PM |
Doctor Funkenstein: I kind of thought Biden was going to jump down to the floor and open up a couple cans of whoop ass when it happened, which would have been 37 different flavors of awesome. I can totally see him just reaching into his pocket and pulling out a toothbrush with then end carved into a shank. Just licking it and grumbling "I'll be waiting for you in the parking lot."
LOL
LOL
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 04:44:14 PM |
HeartBurnKid: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Headso: gilgigamesh: Sean Hannity just had Joe Wilson on.
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
There aren't any Fark Republicans. There's only Fark Independents™ and Fark Libertarians™ that just happen to hate the Democrats, venerate Reagan, and vote a straight Republican ticket in every single election.
Well then, allow me to introduce you to your first Fark Republican. How are you today? Have you had your daily round of tax cuts?
And I don't hate Democrats. Just one or two. I'm likely to vote for a Democrat in the special election in my Congressional District because he's slightly more sane and established than the Republican candidate.
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
There aren't any Fark Republicans. There's only Fark Independents™ and Fark Libertarians™ that just happen to hate the Democrats, venerate Reagan, and vote a straight Republican ticket in every single election.
Well then, allow me to introduce you to your first Fark Republican. How are you today? Have you had your daily round of tax cuts?
And I don't hate Democrats. Just one or two. I'm likely to vote for a Democrat in the special election in my Congressional District because he's slightly more sane and established than the Republican candidate.
| fosborb | 2009-09-10 04:45:23 PM |
Isitoveryet: Freepers, lacking both the motor skills and the cognitive ability to count on their fingers.
I'm convinced Dragon software actually pays for FreeRepublic's bandwidth.
Their website supports this claim.
I'm convinced Dragon software actually pays for FreeRepublic's bandwidth.
Their website supports this claim.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 04:46:17 PM |
Obdicut: I'm more concerned, if I can be internet-emotional-- that you don't seem to be as happy as I'd expect after Obama's speech. Was it less than you had hoped? It was more than I'd hoped
It was a nice speech, but I didn't really hear him pushing HARD for the public option. We elected him to change things, and it sounds like he wants to be fair to the childish Repubs.
Maybe it's just the way he rolls, that being a pushy boss isn't his style.
That, and based on the e-mails I've been getting in his name. It looks like he wants the option, judging on the amount of urging I'm getting to tell Congress to pass it.
I don't think he's going to be the last President who deals with this, though. A public option is a great FIRST step, but hardly the last.
It was a nice speech, but I didn't really hear him pushing HARD for the public option. We elected him to change things, and it sounds like he wants to be fair to the childish Repubs.
Maybe it's just the way he rolls, that being a pushy boss isn't his style.
That, and based on the e-mails I've been getting in his name. It looks like he wants the option, judging on the amount of urging I'm getting to tell Congress to pass it.
I don't think he's going to be the last President who deals with this, though. A public option is a great FIRST step, but hardly the last.
| Corvus | 2009-09-10 04:46:52 PM |
I donated.
| Harry_Seldon | 2009-09-10 04:47:12 PM |
I read the headline and at first saw "his Democratic opponent, former-Marine Rob Riggle..."
A man with this kind of military background and foreign policy experience could be a great rep for SC.
A man with this kind of military background and foreign policy experience could be a great rep for SC.
| cmb53208 | 2009-09-10 04:48:04 PM |
Having grown up in South Carolina, I've had many opportunity to ask myself if the South Carolina GOP is going to go down in flames. After the Wilson comment, I would have to say yes.
Under the tutelage of the GOP, South Carolina has the third highest unemployment rate in the nation. Its governor billed the state for first class air travel not only to see his mistress, but to places like China, Germany, and Poland. The state's largest newspaper editorialised that the aforementioned governor should remain in office simply because the Lt. Governor (also a Republican) is that bad: amongst his many escapades was barrelling down the interstate at speeds of over 100 mph and radioing the Highway patrol telling them to back off. Now we have Joe Wilson.
The metro areas of Columbia and Charleston already have a lot of libs living there. The state's younger people want jobs that don't entail servibng old people on Hilton Head. And South Carolina's unemployment rate, the Repubs may be out of office there simply because of that.
And we shouldn't stop htere: if you have any of your congresscritters hanging out with The family on C Street, bounce 'em. Now.
Under the tutelage of the GOP, South Carolina has the third highest unemployment rate in the nation. Its governor billed the state for first class air travel not only to see his mistress, but to places like China, Germany, and Poland. The state's largest newspaper editorialised that the aforementioned governor should remain in office simply because the Lt. Governor (also a Republican) is that bad: amongst his many escapades was barrelling down the interstate at speeds of over 100 mph and radioing the Highway patrol telling them to back off. Now we have Joe Wilson.
The metro areas of Columbia and Charleston already have a lot of libs living there. The state's younger people want jobs that don't entail servibng old people on Hilton Head. And South Carolina's unemployment rate, the Repubs may be out of office there simply because of that.
And we shouldn't stop htere: if you have any of your congresscritters hanging out with The family on C Street, bounce 'em. Now.
| un4gvn666 | 2009-09-10 04:48:22 PM |
whidbey: Obdicut: I'm more concerned, if I can be internet-emotional-- that you don't seem to be as happy as I'd expect after Obama's speech. Was it less than you had hoped? It was more than I'd hoped
It was a nice speech, but I didn't really hear him pushing HARD for the public option. We elected him to change things, and it sounds like he wants to be fair to the childish Repubs.
Maybe it's just the way he rolls, that being a pushy boss isn't his style.
That, and based on the e-mails I've been getting in his name. It looks like he wants the option, judging on the amount of urging I'm getting to tell Congress to pass it.
I don't think he's going to be the last President who deals with this, though. A public option is a great FIRST step, but hardly the last.
Yeah, I would've liked a "No public option, no signy" from him. Still, I was very moved by the speech, particularly his story about Teddy.
/R.I.P.
It was a nice speech, but I didn't really hear him pushing HARD for the public option. We elected him to change things, and it sounds like he wants to be fair to the childish Repubs.
Maybe it's just the way he rolls, that being a pushy boss isn't his style.
That, and based on the e-mails I've been getting in his name. It looks like he wants the option, judging on the amount of urging I'm getting to tell Congress to pass it.
I don't think he's going to be the last President who deals with this, though. A public option is a great FIRST step, but hardly the last.
Yeah, I would've liked a "No public option, no signy" from him. Still, I was very moved by the speech, particularly his story about Teddy.
/R.I.P.
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 04:49:22 PM |
whidbey: Obdicut: I'm more concerned, if I can be internet-emotional-- that you don't seem to be as happy as I'd expect after Obama's speech. Was it less than you had hoped? It was more than I'd hoped
It was a nice speech, but I didn't really hear him pushing HARD for the public option. We elected him to change things, and it sounds like he wants to be fair to the childish Repubs.
Maybe it's just the way he rolls, that being a pushy boss isn't his style.
That, and based on the e-mails I've been getting in his name. It looks like he wants the option, judging on the amount of urging I'm getting to tell Congress to pass it.
I don't think he's going to be the last President who deals with this, though. A public option is a great FIRST step, but hardly the last.
That's reasonable enough.
I haven't been participating in any of his previous calls to, well, call people about health care reform, because I wasn't sure he really supported the option.
Now that he has said it in congress, I am motivated and convinced, and will be phone-banking this weekend.
There may be others, like me, who needed for him to say it.
It was a nice speech, but I didn't really hear him pushing HARD for the public option. We elected him to change things, and it sounds like he wants to be fair to the childish Repubs.
Maybe it's just the way he rolls, that being a pushy boss isn't his style.
That, and based on the e-mails I've been getting in his name. It looks like he wants the option, judging on the amount of urging I'm getting to tell Congress to pass it.
I don't think he's going to be the last President who deals with this, though. A public option is a great FIRST step, but hardly the last.
That's reasonable enough.
I haven't been participating in any of his previous calls to, well, call people about health care reform, because I wasn't sure he really supported the option.
Now that he has said it in congress, I am motivated and convinced, and will be phone-banking this weekend.
There may be others, like me, who needed for him to say it.
| Headso | 2009-09-10 04:49:50 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Headso: gilgigamesh: Sean Hannity just had Joe Wilson on.
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
seems like a pretty low bar for humor, why don't they do something with more refinement and culture like laughing at retards at the bowling alley or throwing rocks at meth addicts?
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
seems like a pretty low bar for humor, why don't they do something with more refinement and culture like laughing at retards at the bowling alley or throwing rocks at meth addicts?
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 04:50:30 PM |
Headso: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Headso: gilgigamesh: Sean Hannity just had Joe Wilson on.
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
seems like a pretty low bar for humor, why don't they do something with more refinement and culture like laughing at retards at the bowling alley or throwing rocks at meth addicts?
Because those both involve going outside into the big bad world.
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
seems like a pretty low bar for humor, why don't they do something with more refinement and culture like laughing at retards at the bowling alley or throwing rocks at meth addicts?
Because those both involve going outside into the big bad world.
| Action Replay Nick
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2009-09-10 04:50:32 PM |
whidbey: Maybe it's just the way he rolls,
I think it's more like "it's the best way to do things while still keeping middle America happy (and willing to continue turning out to vote for you and your party)".
Of course it's a compromise in principles, but as a great political philosopher once put it:
FIX OLD
NO NEW
I think it's more like "it's the best way to do things while still keeping middle America happy (and willing to continue turning out to vote for you and your party)".
Of course it's a compromise in principles, but as a great political philosopher once put it:
NO NEW
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 04:51:00 PM |
un4gvn666: particularly his story about Teddy.
Yeah, dude really picked a crappy time to kick the bucket...
Yeah, dude really picked a crappy time to kick the bucket...
| All Apologies | 2009-09-10 04:51:44 PM |
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From the Freeper thread. Apparently their in house lawyer also only got his GED in law. Sue me JimRob.
From the Freeper thread. Apparently their in house lawyer also only got his GED in law. Sue me JimRob.
| HeartBurnKid | 2009-09-10 04:54:02 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: HeartBurnKid: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Headso: gilgigamesh: Sean Hannity just had Joe Wilson on.
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
There aren't any Fark Republicans. There's only Fark Independents™ and Fark Libertarians™ that just happen to hate the Democrats, venerate Reagan, and vote a straight Republican ticket in every single election.
Well then, allow me to introduce you to your first Fark Republican. How are you today? Have you had your daily round of tax cuts?
And I don't hate Democrats. Just one or two. I'm likely to vote for a Democrat in the special election in my Congressional District because he's slightly more sane and established than the Republican candidate.
You're no Republican. You seem relatively sane.
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
There aren't any Fark Republicans. There's only Fark Independents™ and Fark Libertarians™ that just happen to hate the Democrats, venerate Reagan, and vote a straight Republican ticket in every single election.
Well then, allow me to introduce you to your first Fark Republican. How are you today? Have you had your daily round of tax cuts?
And I don't hate Democrats. Just one or two. I'm likely to vote for a Democrat in the special election in my Congressional District because he's slightly more sane and established than the Republican candidate.
You're no Republican. You seem relatively sane.
| abb3w
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2009-09-10 04:54:21 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Someone was asking for proof of Blue Dog tendency?
So, in other words, if the world was just and good, he'd be running under banner of the GOP, and Wilson would be running from the Official Monster Raving Loony Party. Unfortunately, the sane have bailed the GOP, and the Official Monster Raving Loony Party is wearing a stovepipe hat and beard to disguise itself as the Party of Lincoln.
The problem isn't conservatives; it's the reactionary and the reactionary-delusional.
Obdicut: I think people feeling contempt for his actions, outrage, etc. and transforming that into donations are definitely motivated by emotions, but I don't think summing up those emotions as spite and hate is true, or useful.
Spite is usually considered "petty". Half a megabuck in 24 hours is hardly petty cash.
whidbey: As the story goes, they'd rather vote for ayellow blue dog.
They'd probably rather vote for a potted ficus tree.
So, in other words, if the world was just and good, he'd be running under banner of the GOP, and Wilson would be running from the Official Monster Raving Loony Party. Unfortunately, the sane have bailed the GOP, and the Official Monster Raving Loony Party is wearing a stovepipe hat and beard to disguise itself as the Party of Lincoln.
The problem isn't conservatives; it's the reactionary and the reactionary-delusional.
Obdicut: I think people feeling contempt for his actions, outrage, etc. and transforming that into donations are definitely motivated by emotions, but I don't think summing up those emotions as spite and hate is true, or useful.
Spite is usually considered "petty". Half a megabuck in 24 hours is hardly petty cash.
whidbey: As the story goes, they'd rather vote for a
They'd probably rather vote for a potted ficus tree.
| IXI Jim IXI
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2009-09-10 04:55:54 PM |
abb3w: They'd probably rather vote for a potted ficus tree.
Terrible idea. Both sides would be thinking it was a plant.
Terrible idea. Both sides would be thinking it was a plant.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 04:56:29 PM |
HeartBurnKid: The_Six_Fingered_Man: HeartBurnKid: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Headso: gilgigamesh: Sean Hannity just had Joe Wilson on.
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
There aren't any Fark Republicans. There's only Fark Independents™ and Fark Libertarians™ that just happen to hate the Democrats, venerate Reagan, and vote a straight Republican ticket in every single election.
Well then, allow me to introduce you to your first Fark Republican. How are you today? Have you had your daily round of tax cuts?
And I don't hate Democrats. Just one or two. I'm likely to vote for a Democrat in the special election in my Congressional District because he's slightly more sane and established than the Republican candidate.
You're no Republican. You seem relatively sane.
I get that a lot.
you watch that crap?
It has been my experience while here on Fark that more Fark Democrats watch Fox News than Fark Republicans do, if only for the lulz.
There aren't any Fark Republicans. There's only Fark Independents™ and Fark Libertarians™ that just happen to hate the Democrats, venerate Reagan, and vote a straight Republican ticket in every single election.
Well then, allow me to introduce you to your first Fark Republican. How are you today? Have you had your daily round of tax cuts?
And I don't hate Democrats. Just one or two. I'm likely to vote for a Democrat in the special election in my Congressional District because he's slightly more sane and established than the Republican candidate.
You're no Republican. You seem relatively sane.
I get that a lot.
| ilambiquated | 2009-09-10 04:56:39 PM |
whidbey: And I was about to feed the troll myself, thank bob I deleted the post.
Skooks you're the biggest troll around. He's probably your alt.
Skooks you're the biggest troll around. He's probably your alt.
| whidbey
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2009-09-10 05:00:31 PM |
ilambiquated: Skooks you're the biggest troll around. He's probably your alt.
Sheeeit...you insult me. Surprised to hear that from you.
Sheeeit...you insult me. Surprised to hear that from you.
| MIguy
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2009-09-10 05:03:02 PM |
I'd be pissed off too if I had to sit there and listen to somebody blatantly lie. I don't blame the dude at all for his outburst. I doubt I could hold my tongue either.
| ilambiquated | 2009-09-10 05:04:45 PM |
Headso: gilgigamesh: Sean Hannity just had Joe Wilson on.
you watch that crap?
I watch Hannity when I get bored of skimming the database at pet-abuse.com
you watch that crap?
I watch Hannity when I get bored of skimming the database at pet-abuse.com
| cameroncrazy1984
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2009-09-10 05:04:57 PM |
MIguy: I'd be pissed off too if I had to sit there and listen to somebody blatantly lie. I don't blame the dude at all for his outburst. I doubt I could hold my tongue either.
It'd be nice if you could, you know, actually point out the lie for us.
It'd be nice if you could, you know, actually point out the lie for us.
| Antonio_Talibanderas | 2009-09-10 05:05:35 PM |
Screamin' Joe also pulled the same crap on my representative, Bob Filner in 2002. Bob Filner was correct in stating the US aided Iraq's chem/bio weapons programs during the Iran/Iraq war. Screamin' Joe called Bob a liar who "harbored hatred for America" with his comments.
Of course, Screamin' Joe was wrong - and his attack on Filner was just as ridiculous and juvenile as his attack on Obama last night.
Kos has the video is anyone wants to see Screamin' Joe show his outrageous, willful ignorance in 2002.
Of course, Screamin' Joe was wrong - and his attack on Filner was just as ridiculous and juvenile as his attack on Obama last night.
Kos has the video is anyone wants to see Screamin' Joe show his outrageous, willful ignorance in 2002.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 05:05:50 PM |
cameroncrazy1984: MIguy: I'd be pissed off too if I had to sit there and listen to somebody blatantly lie. I don't blame the dude at all for his outburst. I doubt I could hold my tongue either.
It'd be nice if you could, you know, actually point out the lie for us.
He's from Michigan. I'd be surprised if he could point to his own naval.
It'd be nice if you could, you know, actually point out the lie for us.
He's from Michigan. I'd be surprised if he could point to his own naval.
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 05:06:24 PM |
abb3w: Spite is usually considered "petty". Half a megabuck in 24 hours is hardly petty cash.
Have you read Dennett's Darwin's Dangerous Idea? It's the single most intellectually inspiring book I've read in the past ten years.
Highly recommended.
Have you read Dennett's Darwin's Dangerous Idea? It's the single most intellectually inspiring book I've read in the past ten years.
Highly recommended.
| HeartBurnKid | 2009-09-10 05:07:03 PM |
IXI Jim IXI: abb3w: They'd probably rather vote for a potted ficus tree.
Terrible idea. Both sides would be thinking it was a plant.
*ba-dum*
Terrible idea. Both sides would be thinking it was a plant.
*ba-dum*
| skullkrusher | 2009-09-10 05:08:18 PM |
BO did use the term Rugged IndividualismTM in a positive sense so can we drop that meme now?
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 05:08:42 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: He's from Michigan. I'd be surprised if he could point to his own naval.
There it is.
There it is.
| Some Wapo | 2009-09-10 05:08:53 PM |
IXI Jim IXI: abb3w: They'd probably rather vote for a potted ficus tree.
Terrible idea. Both sides would be thinking it was a plant.
ZING!
BTW, I was pickled tink to see someone posted a frame from SNL Jeopardy. I LOL'ed.
Terrible idea. Both sides would be thinking it was a plant.
ZING!
BTW, I was pickled tink to see someone posted a frame from SNL Jeopardy. I LOL'ed.
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 05:09:03 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: He's from Michigan. I'd be surprised if he could point to his own naval.
Hey now, I'm from Michigan. We're not all like that.
Hey now, I'm from Michigan. We're not all like that.
| gilgigamesh | 2009-09-10 05:09:59 PM |
Headso: gilgigamesh: Sean Hannity just had Joe Wilson on.
you watch that crap?
Actually no, worse. I listen to his radio show. And Rush. And Mark Levin.
I also like shoving bricks up my ass. Or I suppose I should like that, since I am obviously a glutton for punishment.
you watch that crap?
Actually no, worse. I listen to his radio show. And Rush. And Mark Levin.
I also like shoving bricks up my ass. Or I suppose I should like that, since I am obviously a glutton for punishment.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 05:10:55 PM |
Vash The Stampede: The_Six_Fingered_Man: He's from Michigan. I'd be surprised if he could point to his own naval.
Hey now, I'm from Michigan. We're not all like that.
I'm from Ohio. Yes you are.
Hey now, I'm from Michigan. We're not all like that.
I'm from Ohio. Yes you are.
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 05:12:43 PM |
| More_Like_A_Stain | 2009-09-10 05:12:51 PM |
MIguy: I'd be pissed off too if I had to sit there and listen to somebody blatantly lie. I don't blame the dude at all for his outburst. I doubt I could hold my tongue either.
I'd bet that you can't kiss your elbow either.
I'd bet that you can't kiss your elbow either.
| Masso | 2009-09-10 05:14:28 PM |
Wow, now it's $450,000, looks like Half a million in a little more than one day is a given now.
| skullkrusher | 2009-09-10 05:15:18 PM |
gilgigamesh: Actually no, worse. I listen to his radio show. And Rush. And Mark Levin.
I also like shoving bricks up my ass. Or I suppose I should like that, since I am obviously a glutton for punishment.
John Batchelor... now that was an entertaining radio show. Don't have the time to listen on his new slots anymore though.
I also like shoving bricks up my ass. Or I suppose I should like that, since I am obviously a glutton for punishment.
John Batchelor... now that was an entertaining radio show. Don't have the time to listen on his new slots anymore though.
| gshepnyc | 2009-09-10 05:15:28 PM |
I'm a donor now. Very small amount but it all adds up.
| gilgigamesh | 2009-09-10 05:16:53 PM |
whidbey: It was a nice speech, but I didn't really hear him pushing HARD for the public option. We elected him to change things, and it sounds like he wants to be fair to the childish Repubs.
I was pretty steamed when he threw them the bone about tort reform.
But then I realized that the one-note republican response of "but, but... what about TORT REFORM???" rang pretty hollow after Obama endorsed it.
The sneaky bastard stole their thunder.
I was pretty steamed when he threw them the bone about tort reform.
But then I realized that the one-note republican response of "but, but... what about TORT REFORM???" rang pretty hollow after Obama endorsed it.
The sneaky bastard stole their thunder.
| poot_rootbeer | 2009-09-10 05:17:08 PM |
whistleridge: if I had been there, I probably would have been playing a DS or something...I'm there to listen not watch. Who gives a shiat what I'm looking at, as long as I can clearly explain what I heard later?
"Based on what I heard the president say, I have no issue with the health care reform package including subsidies for stockpiling emergency supplies of those long skinny Tetris pieces that allow you to clear four rows at once, but you must admit that his plan to let Player Two steal extra lives from Player One by hitting A+B at the same time, after all of his own guys are used up -- that's just socialized medicine by another name."
"Based on what I heard the president say, I have no issue with the health care reform package including subsidies for stockpiling emergency supplies of those long skinny Tetris pieces that allow you to clear four rows at once, but you must admit that his plan to let Player Two steal extra lives from Player One by hitting A+B at the same time, after all of his own guys are used up -- that's just socialized medicine by another name."
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 05:17:42 PM |
gshepnyc: I'm a donor now. Very small amount but it all adds up.
Yeah, it definitely does. The average donation amount is less than $40 but it's more than enough apparently.
Yeah, it definitely does. The average donation amount is less than $40 but it's more than enough apparently.
| fosborb | 2009-09-10 05:18:06 PM |
Vash The Stampede: Hey now, I'm from Michigan. We're not all like that.
And you at least know where your hand is.
/because you guys are always pointing at it
And you at least know where your hand is.
/because you guys are always pointing at it
| randomjsa | 2009-09-10 05:19:34 PM |
Nothing upsets liberals quite as much as being called liars.
Particularly when they ARE in fact lying.
Particularly when they ARE in fact lying.
| The Only Good Moran | 2009-09-10 05:20:49 PM |
randomjsa: Nothing upsets liberals quite as much as being called liars.
Particularly when they ARE in fact lying.
Still praying for that terrorist attack to hit, Mr Cut-and-Run?
Particularly when they ARE in fact lying.
Still praying for that terrorist attack to hit, Mr Cut-and-Run?
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 05:21:07 PM |
fosborb: And you at least know where your hand is.
/because you guys are always pointing at it
That's true, and we say "you guys" a lot. I have relatives in Texas and we debated which sounds sillier... "you guys" or "y'all" to people from out of town.
/because you guys are always pointing at it
That's true, and we say "you guys" a lot. I have relatives in Texas and we debated which sounds sillier... "you guys" or "y'all" to people from out of town.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 05:21:16 PM |
randomjsa: Nothing upsets liberals quite as much as being called liars.
Particularly when they ARE in fact lying.
So YOU know where the provision is for covering illegal immigrants?
Can you show the rest of the class?
Particularly when they ARE in fact lying.
So YOU know where the provision is for covering illegal immigrants?
Can you show the rest of the class?
| Antonio_Talibanderas | 2009-09-10 05:21:20 PM |
Hey... just out of curiosity, what did the GOP do about illegal immigrants abusing our medical system when they were in power?
I understand the GOP controlled all three branches of government from 2000-2006.
Surely, you can point me to a program/legislation they implemented to make sure that illegals were not allowed free medical care in the US. Surely they gave hospitals permission to turn away anyone who couldn't prove US citizenship. I mean, there is no way they just ignored the issue. Right?
Or maybe illegals didn't start flooding to the emergency rooms until Obama took office?
I can't imagine the GOP would ever vilify Obama for continuing to do exactly what Bush allowed under his admin. Bush wouldn't have stood for this for one minute - with all 3 branches of government, he surely would have dealt with such a major problem.
Right?
I understand the GOP controlled all three branches of government from 2000-2006.
Surely, you can point me to a program/legislation they implemented to make sure that illegals were not allowed free medical care in the US. Surely they gave hospitals permission to turn away anyone who couldn't prove US citizenship. I mean, there is no way they just ignored the issue. Right?
Or maybe illegals didn't start flooding to the emergency rooms until Obama took office?
I can't imagine the GOP would ever vilify Obama for continuing to do exactly what Bush allowed under his admin. Bush wouldn't have stood for this for one minute - with all 3 branches of government, he surely would have dealt with such a major problem.
Right?
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 05:22:14 PM |
Antonio_Talibanderas: Hey... just out of curiosity, what did the GOP do about illegal immigrants abusing our medical system when they were in power?
I understand the GOP controlled all three branches of government from 2000-2006.
Surely, you can point me to a program/legislation they implemented to make sure that illegals were not allowed free medical care in the US. Surely they gave hospitals permission to turn away anyone who couldn't prove US citizenship. I mean, there is no way they just ignored the issue. Right?
Or maybe illegals didn't start flooding to the emergency rooms until Obama took office?
I can't imagine the GOP would ever vilify Obama for continuing to do exactly what Bush allowed under his admin. Bush wouldn't have stood for this for one minute - with all 3 branches of government, he surely would have dealt with such a major problem.
Right?
No party controls the judiciary branch.
I understand the GOP controlled all three branches of government from 2000-2006.
Surely, you can point me to a program/legislation they implemented to make sure that illegals were not allowed free medical care in the US. Surely they gave hospitals permission to turn away anyone who couldn't prove US citizenship. I mean, there is no way they just ignored the issue. Right?
Or maybe illegals didn't start flooding to the emergency rooms until Obama took office?
I can't imagine the GOP would ever vilify Obama for continuing to do exactly what Bush allowed under his admin. Bush wouldn't have stood for this for one minute - with all 3 branches of government, he surely would have dealt with such a major problem.
Right?
No party controls the judiciary branch.
| Antonio_Talibanderas | 2009-09-10 05:24:13 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Antonio_Talibanderas: Hey... just out of curiosity, what did the GOP do about illegal immigrants abusing our medical system when they were in power?
I understand the GOP controlled all three branches of government from 2000-2006.
Surely, you can point me to a program/legislation they implemented to make sure that illegals were not allowed free medical care in the US. Surely they gave hospitals permission to turn away anyone who couldn't prove US citizenship. I mean, there is no way they just ignored the issue. Right?
Or maybe illegals didn't start flooding to the emergency rooms until Obama took office?
I can't imagine the GOP would ever vilify Obama for continuing to do exactly what Bush allowed under his admin. Bush wouldn't have stood for this for one minute - with all 3 branches of government, he surely would have dealt with such a major problem.
Right?
No party controls the judiciary branch.
HAHAHA Okay, Karl.
I understand the GOP controlled all three branches of government from 2000-2006.
Surely, you can point me to a program/legislation they implemented to make sure that illegals were not allowed free medical care in the US. Surely they gave hospitals permission to turn away anyone who couldn't prove US citizenship. I mean, there is no way they just ignored the issue. Right?
Or maybe illegals didn't start flooding to the emergency rooms until Obama took office?
I can't imagine the GOP would ever vilify Obama for continuing to do exactly what Bush allowed under his admin. Bush wouldn't have stood for this for one minute - with all 3 branches of government, he surely would have dealt with such a major problem.
Right?
No party controls the judiciary branch.
HAHAHA Okay, Karl.
| keylock71 | 2009-09-10 05:24:56 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: randomjsa: Nothing upsets liberals quite as much as being called liars.
Particularly when they ARE in fact lying.
So YOU know where the provision is for covering illegal immigrants?
Can you show the rest of the class?
Good luck with that...
All the clowns on here today so convinced it was a "lie", yet none of them can produce a lick of evidence to support their claim.
Closest thing I've gotten to any proof was being told to "turn on Rush" as he's apparently got all the inside info on this outrageous lie Obama told last night...
Particularly when they ARE in fact lying.
So YOU know where the provision is for covering illegal immigrants?
Can you show the rest of the class?
Good luck with that...
All the clowns on here today so convinced it was a "lie", yet none of them can produce a lick of evidence to support their claim.
Closest thing I've gotten to any proof was being told to "turn on Rush" as he's apparently got all the inside info on this outrageous lie Obama told last night...
| ilambiquated | 2009-09-10 05:25:07 PM |
Obdicut: abb3w: Spite is usually considered "petty". Half a megabuck in 24 hours is hardly petty cash.
Have you read Dennett's Darwin's Dangerous Idea? It's the single most intellectually inspiring book I've read in the past ten years.
Highly recommended.
I agree
Have you read Dennett's Darwin's Dangerous Idea? It's the single most intellectually inspiring book I've read in the past ten years.
Highly recommended.
I agree
| what_now
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2009-09-10 05:25:23 PM |
I love you, Free Republic:
Aaahh just look at how much these Pinkos Hate White People and America.
Apparently, donating to this lily white Marine means you hate America.
Awesome.
Aaahh just look at how much these Pinkos Hate White People and America.
Apparently, donating to this lily white Marine means you hate America.
Awesome.
| keylock71 | 2009-09-10 05:29:07 PM |
what_now: I love you, Free Republic:
Aaahh just look at how much these Pinkos Hate White People and America.
Apparently, donating to this lily white Marine means you hate America.
Awesome.
It's like taking a swim in the shallow end of the gene pool over there...
Aaahh just look at how much these Pinkos Hate White People and America.
Apparently, donating to this lily white Marine means you hate America.
Awesome.
It's like taking a swim in the shallow end of the gene pool over there...
| gshepnyc | 2009-09-10 05:29:43 PM |
randomjsa: Nothing upsets liberals quite as much as being called liars.
Particularly when they ARE in fact lying.
Yeah, that was the entire crux of the problem and why people are angry. You are astute. It isn't at all the time and place of the outburst.
And by the way, just because you want to believe something doesn't make it true. The bill specifically prohibits any provision to aid illegal immigrants. It's not that it's vague or not mentioned. It IS mentioned and specifically prohibits it.
Particularly when they ARE in fact lying.
Yeah, that was the entire crux of the problem and why people are angry. You are astute. It isn't at all the time and place of the outburst.
And by the way, just because you want to believe something doesn't make it true. The bill specifically prohibits any provision to aid illegal immigrants. It's not that it's vague or not mentioned. It IS mentioned and specifically prohibits it.
| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 05:30:24 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: You have an odd definition of trolling. I, and most of the internet I would imagine, define trolling as purposely stating an opinion that you do not personally hold for the sole purpose of eliciting fired up responses.
Posting off-topic information and instigating an argument with someone else that is off topic and makes use of ad hominems fits as well.
troll: One who purposely and deliberately starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.
A person who, on a message forum of some type, attacks and flames other members of the forum for any of a number of reasons such as rank, previous disagreements, sex, status, etc. A troll usually flames threads without staying on topic, unlike a "Flamer" who flames a thread because he/she disagrees with the content of the thread.
You can be quite sincere and still be a troll.
There's also this:
An old, unattractive gay man who hits on young men, and cannot seem to understand that they want nothing to do with him.
Which I can't pretend to know anything about...unlike those who can ascertain someone's residency status by just reading a post.
Posting off-topic information and instigating an argument with someone else that is off topic and makes use of ad hominems fits as well.
troll: One who purposely and deliberately starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.
A person who, on a message forum of some type, attacks and flames other members of the forum for any of a number of reasons such as rank, previous disagreements, sex, status, etc. A troll usually flames threads without staying on topic, unlike a "Flamer" who flames a thread because he/she disagrees with the content of the thread.
You can be quite sincere and still be a troll.
There's also this:
An old, unattractive gay man who hits on young men, and cannot seem to understand that they want nothing to do with him.
Which I can't pretend to know anything about...unlike those who can ascertain someone's residency status by just reading a post.
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 05:32:04 PM |
rufus-t-firefly: Which I can't pretend to know anything about...unlike those who can ascertain someone's residency status by just reading a post.
I still say we need to take up the tax.
I still say we need to take up the tax.
| ddelorm | 2009-09-10 05:32:04 PM |
| The Only Good Moran | 2009-09-10 05:32:20 PM |
what_now: I love you, Free Republic:
Aaahh just look at how much these Pinkos Hate White People and America.
Apparently, donating to this lily white Marine means you hate America.
Awesome.
Well to be fair, if you don't have a hommade shrine for daily praying to the gods Dubya and Palin, like randomjsa does, they're going to think you hate America.
Also according to them, you also hate America if you don't wish for a terrorist attack to hit on Obama's watch either.
Aaahh just look at how much these Pinkos Hate White People and America.
Apparently, donating to this lily white Marine means you hate America.
Awesome.
Well to be fair, if you don't have a hommade shrine for daily praying to the gods Dubya and Palin, like randomjsa does, they're going to think you hate America.
Also according to them, you also hate America if you don't wish for a terrorist attack to hit on Obama's watch either.
| Kazuya | 2009-09-10 05:32:33 PM |
randomjsa: Nothing upsets liberals quite as much as being called liars.
Particularly when they ARE in fact lying.
"mm, how ironic"
Particularly when they ARE in fact lying.
"mm, how ironic"| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 05:34:45 PM |
Obdicut: rufus-t-firefly: Which I can't pretend to know anything about...unlike those who can ascertain someone's residency status by just reading a post.
I still say we need to take up the tax.
You're right - you've gotta take up the tacks before you can take up the carpet.
I still say we need to take up the tax.
You're right - you've gotta take up the tacks before you can take up the carpet.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 05:35:12 PM |
rufus-t-firefly: The_Six_Fingered_Man: You have an odd definition of trolling. I, and most of the internet I would imagine, define trolling as purposely stating an opinion that you do not personally hold for the sole purpose of eliciting fired up responses.
Posting off-topic information and instigating an argument with someone else that is off topic and makes use of ad hominems fits as well.
troll: One who purposely and deliberately starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.
A person who, on a message forum of some type, attacks and flames other members of the forum for any of a number of reasons such as rank, previous disagreements, sex, status, etc. A troll usually flames threads without staying on topic, unlike a "Flamer" who flames a thread because he/she disagrees with the content of the thread.
You can be quite sincere and still be a troll.
There's also this:
An old, unattractive gay man who hits on young men, and cannot seem to understand that they want nothing to do with him.
Which I can't pretend to know anything about...unlike those who can ascertain someone's residency status by just reading a post.
So, by this definition, every single poster on Fark is a troll by posting off topic information.
I do like how you avoided the qualifier of "with the intent to cause maximum disruption and argument" as that was not my intent.
Also, was I not correct in his residency status?
Posting off-topic information and instigating an argument with someone else that is off topic and makes use of ad hominems fits as well.
troll: One who purposely and deliberately starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.
A person who, on a message forum of some type, attacks and flames other members of the forum for any of a number of reasons such as rank, previous disagreements, sex, status, etc. A troll usually flames threads without staying on topic, unlike a "Flamer" who flames a thread because he/she disagrees with the content of the thread.
You can be quite sincere and still be a troll.
There's also this:
An old, unattractive gay man who hits on young men, and cannot seem to understand that they want nothing to do with him.
Which I can't pretend to know anything about...unlike those who can ascertain someone's residency status by just reading a post.
So, by this definition, every single poster on Fark is a troll by posting off topic information.
I do like how you avoided the qualifier of "with the intent to cause maximum disruption and argument" as that was not my intent.
Also, was I not correct in his residency status?
| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 05:35:35 PM |
keylock71: what_now: I love you, Free Republic:
Aaahh just look at how much these Pinkos Hate White People and America.
Apparently, donating to this lily white Marine means you hate America.
Awesome.
It's like taking a swim in the shallow end of the gene pool over there...
There are far fewer chromosomes on that end...though there are 2 Ys for every X.
Aaahh just look at how much these Pinkos Hate White People and America.
Apparently, donating to this lily white Marine means you hate America.
Awesome.
It's like taking a swim in the shallow end of the gene pool over there...
There are far fewer chromosomes on that end...though there are 2 Ys for every X.
| Now That's What I Call a Taco! | 2009-09-10 05:37:15 PM |
The REAL Silent Majority is speaking loud and clear today.
| RockIsDead | 2009-09-10 05:37:31 PM |
"Our plan" "Our plan" "our plan"...
Which "our plan" does he mean?
Or is that just another typical Obamaism of being vague enough to avoid any negative consequences: "let them interpret as they wish and I can just jump to another "plan" to defend my statements". (no question mark needed)
Which "our plan" does he mean?
Or is that just another typical Obamaism of being vague enough to avoid any negative consequences: "let them interpret as they wish and I can just jump to another "plan" to defend my statements". (no question mark needed)
| brynaldo | 2009-09-10 05:37:50 PM |
| Obdicut
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2009-09-10 05:39:44 PM |
rufus-t-firefly: You're right - you've gotta take up the tacks before you can take up the carpet.
Thank you for not disappointing.
However, I resign. I wash my hands of the whole business.
Thank you for not disappointing.
However, I resign. I wash my hands of the whole business.
| Antonio_Talibanderas | 2009-09-10 05:42:09 PM |
So wait..
Am I to understand that even when the GOP controlled all 3 branches of government, they stood by and did NOTHING to prevent illegals from accessing our healthcare system?
And now they are blaming Obama for maintaining the status quo of not refusing anyone who shows up at the ER?
It's clear that illegals will not receive insurance - or credits - or ongoing healthcare with Obama's plan. The only possible way they receive care is EXACTLY the way they did it when Bush was in office. And yes, they should be vaccinated. Google "herd immunity" to find out why it would be reckless and stupid to exclude a percentage of the population from immunizations.
The GOP had 6 years do to something about this issue, but instead gave tax cuts to the wealthy and started an unnecessary war.
They did nothing about a problem they knew existed.
Am I to understand that even when the GOP controlled all 3 branches of government, they stood by and did NOTHING to prevent illegals from accessing our healthcare system?
And now they are blaming Obama for maintaining the status quo of not refusing anyone who shows up at the ER?
It's clear that illegals will not receive insurance - or credits - or ongoing healthcare with Obama's plan. The only possible way they receive care is EXACTLY the way they did it when Bush was in office. And yes, they should be vaccinated. Google "herd immunity" to find out why it would be reckless and stupid to exclude a percentage of the population from immunizations.
The GOP had 6 years do to something about this issue, but instead gave tax cuts to the wealthy and started an unnecessary war.
They did nothing about a problem they knew existed.
| gshepnyc | 2009-09-10 05:42:36 PM |
Now That's What I Call a Taco!: The REAL Silent Majority is speaking loud and clear today.
I'd say so.
But party affiliation aside, it's time to stop rewarding assholes and ignoramuses. People who continually display breathtaking ignorance about things they should be educated on or who behave with manners that would shame their grandmothers should not be elected to high office.
I'd say so.
But party affiliation aside, it's time to stop rewarding assholes and ignoramuses. People who continually display breathtaking ignorance about things they should be educated on or who behave with manners that would shame their grandmothers should not be elected to high office.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 05:43:13 PM |
Antonio_Talibanderas: So wait..
Am I to understand that even when the GOP controlled all 3 branches of government, they stood by and did NOTHING to prevent illegals from accessing our healthcare system?
And now they are blaming Obama for maintaining the status quo of not refusing anyone who shows up at the ER?
It's clear that illegals will not receive insurance - or credits - or ongoing healthcare with Obama's plan. The only possible way they receive care is EXACTLY the way they did it when Bush was in office. And yes, they should be vaccinated. Google "herd immunity" to find out why it would be reckless and stupid to exclude a percentage of the population from immunizations.
The GOP had 6 years do to something about this issue, but instead gave tax cuts to the wealthy and started an unnecessary war.
They did nothing about a problem they knew existed.
Again, no party controls the judiciary.
Am I to understand that even when the GOP controlled all 3 branches of government, they stood by and did NOTHING to prevent illegals from accessing our healthcare system?
And now they are blaming Obama for maintaining the status quo of not refusing anyone who shows up at the ER?
It's clear that illegals will not receive insurance - or credits - or ongoing healthcare with Obama's plan. The only possible way they receive care is EXACTLY the way they did it when Bush was in office. And yes, they should be vaccinated. Google "herd immunity" to find out why it would be reckless and stupid to exclude a percentage of the population from immunizations.
The GOP had 6 years do to something about this issue, but instead gave tax cuts to the wealthy and started an unnecessary war.
They did nothing about a problem they knew existed.
Again, no party controls the judiciary.
| gilgigamesh | 2009-09-10 05:43:49 PM |
gshepnyc: And by the way, just because you want to believe something doesn't make it true. The bill specifically prohibits any provision to aid illegal immigrants. It's not that it's vague or not mentioned. It IS mentioned and specifically prohibits it.
Let's not get confused. The bill doesn't prohibit illegal immigrants from obtaining health care. It prohibits them from applying for affordability credits, which is how the public option is funded.
However, there is no enforcement mechanism to verify citizenship. So the bottom line is that illegal immigrants can pay for healthcare just like everyone else. Just like they can pay for food like everyone else.
Let's not get confused. The bill doesn't prohibit illegal immigrants from obtaining health care. It prohibits them from applying for affordability credits, which is how the public option is funded.
However, there is no enforcement mechanism to verify citizenship. So the bottom line is that illegal immigrants can pay for healthcare just like everyone else. Just like they can pay for food like everyone else.
| rufus-t-firefly
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2009-09-10 05:44:13 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man:
So, by this definition, every single poster on Fark is a troll by posting off topic information.
You did see that it referred to FLAMING threads without staying on topic? Merely posting off-topic info is not always flaming.
I do like how you avoided the qualifier of "with the intent to cause maximum disruption and argument" as that was not my intent.
Maybe not disruption, but definitely argument.
Also, was I not correct in his residency status?
First, you didn't even know that a green card allowed you to donate to a candidate. You assumed that a non-citizen couldn't donate to a candidate.
But assuming you did know (but you didn't), what did you base your assumption upon? A guess on a coin flip isn't exactly something that should result in you patting yourself on the back.
By your logic, it's not racist to assume a black man is a criminal when the only information you have is "he's black" - so long as you find out later that he has committed a crime at some point in the past. When you have nothing to base your assumption upon, you're judging on ignorance.
So, by this definition, every single poster on Fark is a troll by posting off topic information.
You did see that it referred to FLAMING threads without staying on topic? Merely posting off-topic info is not always flaming.
I do like how you avoided the qualifier of "with the intent to cause maximum disruption and argument" as that was not my intent.
Maybe not disruption, but definitely argument.
Also, was I not correct in his residency status?
First, you didn't even know that a green card allowed you to donate to a candidate. You assumed that a non-citizen couldn't donate to a candidate.
But assuming you did know (but you didn't), what did you base your assumption upon? A guess on a coin flip isn't exactly something that should result in you patting yourself on the back.
By your logic, it's not racist to assume a black man is a criminal when the only information you have is "he's black" - so long as you find out later that he has committed a crime at some point in the past. When you have nothing to base your assumption upon, you're judging on ignorance.
| NuclearWinter | 2009-09-10 05:44:58 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Antonio_Talibanderas: So wait..
Am I to understand that even when the GOP controlled all 3 branches of government, they stood by and did NOTHING to prevent illegals from accessing our healthcare system?
And now they are blaming Obama for maintaining the status quo of not refusing anyone who shows up at the ER?
It's clear that illegals will not receive insurance - or credits - or ongoing healthcare with Obama's plan. The only possible way they receive care is EXACTLY the way they did it when Bush was in office. And yes, they should be vaccinated. Google "herd immunity" to find out why it would be reckless and stupid to exclude a percentage of the population from immunizations.
The GOP had 6 years do to something about this issue, but instead gave tax cuts to the wealthy and started an unnecessary war.
They did nothing about a problem they knew existed.
Again, no party controls the judiciary.
You haven't read many opinions from Scalia and Thomas, have you? Party affiliation isn't in play, but ideology definitely is.
Am I to understand that even when the GOP controlled all 3 branches of government, they stood by and did NOTHING to prevent illegals from accessing our healthcare system?
And now they are blaming Obama for maintaining the status quo of not refusing anyone who shows up at the ER?
It's clear that illegals will not receive insurance - or credits - or ongoing healthcare with Obama's plan. The only possible way they receive care is EXACTLY the way they did it when Bush was in office. And yes, they should be vaccinated. Google "herd immunity" to find out why it would be reckless and stupid to exclude a percentage of the population from immunizations.
The GOP had 6 years do to something about this issue, but instead gave tax cuts to the wealthy and started an unnecessary war.
They did nothing about a problem they knew existed.
Again, no party controls the judiciary.
You haven't read many opinions from Scalia and Thomas, have you? Party affiliation isn't in play, but ideology definitely is.
| Harry_Seldon | 2009-09-10 05:46:25 PM |
Anyone feel like ponying up a website for "censurejoewilson.com." It looks like it is parked at GoDaddy for $18.99.
| Aexia | 2009-09-10 05:48:31 PM |
Antonio_Talibanderas: I can't imagine the GOP would ever vilify Obama for continuing to do exactly what Bush allowed under his admin. Bush wouldn't have stood for this for one minute - with all 3 branches of government, he surely would have dealt with such a major problem.
Right?
Bush certainly tried to: amnesty.
Right?
Bush certainly tried to: amnesty.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 05:49:35 PM |
rufus-t-firefly: The_Six_Fingered_Man:
So, by this definition, every single poster on Fark is a troll by posting off topic information.
You did see that it referred to FLAMING threads without staying on topic? Merely posting off-topic info is not always flaming.
I do like how you avoided the qualifier of "with the intent to cause maximum disruption and argument" as that was not my intent.
Maybe not disruption, but definitely argument.
Also, was I not correct in his residency status?
First, you didn't even know that a green card allowed you to donate to a candidate. You assumed that a non-citizen couldn't donate to a candidate.
But assuming you did know (but you didn't), what did you base your assumption upon? A guess on a coin flip isn't exactly something that should result in you patting yourself on the back.
By your logic, it's not racist to assume a black man is a criminal when the only information you have is "he's black" - so long as you find out later that he has committed a crime at some point in the past. When you have nothing to base your assumption upon, you're judging on ignorance.
How did I flame anyone but whidbey?
I based my assumption on the fact that he said he wasn't American, just living here and paying taxes. There is ONE exemption to foreign nationals contributing, so the odds were quite likely that he was barred. I admitted that I did not know that for sure after the fact, so what are you hoping to gain by pointing it out? That I jumped the gun? I already admitted to it.
But hey, at least we've established that we're both trolls in your eyes. This off topic information and personal insult is intended to flame me and cause argument.
So, by this definition, every single poster on Fark is a troll by posting off topic information.
You did see that it referred to FLAMING threads without staying on topic? Merely posting off-topic info is not always flaming.
I do like how you avoided the qualifier of "with the intent to cause maximum disruption and argument" as that was not my intent.
Maybe not disruption, but definitely argument.
Also, was I not correct in his residency status?
First, you didn't even know that a green card allowed you to donate to a candidate. You assumed that a non-citizen couldn't donate to a candidate.
But assuming you did know (but you didn't), what did you base your assumption upon? A guess on a coin flip isn't exactly something that should result in you patting yourself on the back.
By your logic, it's not racist to assume a black man is a criminal when the only information you have is "he's black" - so long as you find out later that he has committed a crime at some point in the past. When you have nothing to base your assumption upon, you're judging on ignorance.
How did I flame anyone but whidbey?
I based my assumption on the fact that he said he wasn't American, just living here and paying taxes. There is ONE exemption to foreign nationals contributing, so the odds were quite likely that he was barred. I admitted that I did not know that for sure after the fact, so what are you hoping to gain by pointing it out? That I jumped the gun? I already admitted to it.
But hey, at least we've established that we're both trolls in your eyes. This off topic information and personal insult is intended to flame me and cause argument.
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 05:51:54 PM |
Harry_Seldon: Anyone feel like ponying up a website for "censurejoewilson.com." It looks like it is parked at GoDaddy for $18.99.
I would LOVE to see Pelosi try and censure Joe Wilson for speaking. Cement that defeat, Nancy.
I would LOVE to see Pelosi try and censure Joe Wilson for speaking. Cement that defeat, Nancy.
| ilambiquated | 2009-09-10 05:54:11 PM |
Oh and this:
| sharpie_69 | 2009-09-10 05:59:52 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Again, no party controls the judiciary.
So we can't blame the GOP for anything bad nor praise the GOP for any good the did -- cause you know, no party controls the judiciary.
That works!
So we can't blame the GOP for anything bad nor praise the GOP for any good the did -- cause you know, no party controls the judiciary.
That works!
| Harry_Seldon | 2009-09-10 06:02:22 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Harry_Seldon: Anyone feel like ponying up a website for "censurejoewilson.com." It looks like it is parked at GoDaddy for $18.99.
I would LOVE to see Pelosi try and censure Joe Wilson for speaking. Cement that defeat, Nancy.
It has nothing to do with Pelosi. It was an embarrassment to the institution of Congress. The institution is more important, and transcends party lines. Congress is one when the President, who is a co-equal institution, is allowed to speak before Congress.
By standing and calling the President a "liar" at that moment, he is speaking for the entire institution of Congress, and the body has a need to punish that member for breaking a serious rule of decorum.
To put it in terms you might understand,"The First Rule of Fight Club...." Well, Joe Wilson just broke that first rule.
I would LOVE to see Pelosi try and censure Joe Wilson for speaking. Cement that defeat, Nancy.
It has nothing to do with Pelosi. It was an embarrassment to the institution of Congress. The institution is more important, and transcends party lines. Congress is one when the President, who is a co-equal institution, is allowed to speak before Congress.
By standing and calling the President a "liar" at that moment, he is speaking for the entire institution of Congress, and the body has a need to punish that member for breaking a serious rule of decorum.
To put it in terms you might understand,"The First Rule of Fight Club...." Well, Joe Wilson just broke that first rule.
| All Apologies | 2009-09-10 06:04:37 PM |
I've taken to calling that image Baby Oudin, lately.
| AmazingRuss | 2009-09-10 06:05:17 PM |
These clowns are really working hard to ensure a decade of democrat rule.
Will no one rid the republican party of these hemorrhoids in human form?
Will no one rid the republican party of these hemorrhoids in human form?
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 06:05:40 PM |
Harry_Seldon: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Harry_Seldon: Anyone feel like ponying up a website for "censurejoewilson.com." It looks like it is parked at GoDaddy for $18.99.
I would LOVE to see Pelosi try and censure Joe Wilson for speaking. Cement that defeat, Nancy.
It has nothing to do with Pelosi. It was an embarrassment to the institution of Congress. The institution is more important, and transcends party lines. Congress is one when the President, who is a co-equal institution, is allowed to speak before Congress.
By standing and calling the President a "liar" at that moment, he is speaking for the entire institution of Congress, and the body has a need to punish that member for breaking a serious rule of decorum.
To put it in terms you might understand,"The First Rule of Fight Club...." Well, Joe Wilson just broke that first rule.
The last person to be censured by Congress for speaking was Edward Holbrook for "Unparlimentary Language" in 1869.
I would LOVE to see Pelosi try and censure Joe Wilson for speaking. Cement that defeat, Nancy.
It has nothing to do with Pelosi. It was an embarrassment to the institution of Congress. The institution is more important, and transcends party lines. Congress is one when the President, who is a co-equal institution, is allowed to speak before Congress.
By standing and calling the President a "liar" at that moment, he is speaking for the entire institution of Congress, and the body has a need to punish that member for breaking a serious rule of decorum.
To put it in terms you might understand,"The First Rule of Fight Club...." Well, Joe Wilson just broke that first rule.
The last person to be censured by Congress for speaking was Edward Holbrook for "Unparlimentary Language" in 1869.
| brynaldo | 2009-09-10 06:06:40 PM |
All Apologies: I've taken to calling that image Baby Oudin, lately.
lol, if only she was squeezing sand too
lol, if only she was squeezing sand too
| sdd2000 | 2009-09-10 06:07:36 PM |
Almost at 500K.
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 06:08:10 PM |
| Fear the Clam | 2009-09-10 06:10:25 PM |
| brynaldo | 2009-09-10 06:13:23 PM |
Fear the Clam
Classic
Classic
| Hollywood Cole
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2009-09-10 06:14:58 PM |
497,366
biatches.
biatches.
| Hollywood Cole
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2009-09-10 06:16:43 PM |
Pretty soon it will be the "Five Hundred Dollar Tantrum" Nick.
| jwilson07 | 2009-09-10 06:18:52 PM |
Yeah..about as grass roots as osama's 600 million was "grass roots".
| Masso | 2009-09-10 06:19:22 PM |
"Half a million dollar" will certainly make a good headline for all news network out there.
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 06:19:59 PM |
| Dilbert J. Galt | 2009-09-10 06:28:20 PM |
$504,317 Bet this really cranks up as more people get home from work.
| Masso | 2009-09-10 06:28:37 PM |
Half a million GET!
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 06:28:54 PM |
It's official. It's over $500,000
The only way Wilson could even hope to raise that much coin in one day at this point is one of these:
The only way Wilson could even hope to raise that much coin in one day at this point is one of these:
| FooDog | 2009-09-10 06:29:11 PM |
Rob Miller just hit a cool half mil in donations. He owes Joe Wilson a thank you card.
| Jackpot777
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2009-09-10 06:30:24 PM |
| HeartBurnKid | 2009-09-10 06:30:42 PM |
| Nucleus | 2009-09-10 06:32:35 PM |
Everyday, republicans are looking more like the clown hall protesters than actual lawmakers.
| Jackpot777
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2009-09-10 06:33:44 PM |
Can YOU spare $5 to get Joe Wilson out of that terrible Government-provided healthcare he has?
Click here to donate to his 2010 opponent via ActBlue. (new window)
Click here to donate to his 2010 opponent via ActBlue. (new window)
| ace in your face | 2009-09-10 06:34:30 PM |
inglixthemad: Subby: former-Marine Rob Miller
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
A retired Marine is someone who is RETIRED. I don't know whether this guy is or not but he looks pretty young to have had 20 years in.
A former marine is someone who was honorably discharged.
An EX marine is someone who was NOT honorably discharged.
So you may be right, but so might the article. It would be nice if this dude had ANYTHING up about him other than "gimme money". There isn't even access to his facebook page.
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
A retired Marine is someone who is RETIRED. I don't know whether this guy is or not but he looks pretty young to have had 20 years in.
A former marine is someone who was honorably discharged.
An EX marine is someone who was NOT honorably discharged.
So you may be right, but so might the article. It would be nice if this dude had ANYTHING up about him other than "gimme money". There isn't even access to his facebook page.
| Jackpot777
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2009-09-10 06:35:11 PM |
FooDog: Rob Miller just hit a cool half mil in donations. He owes Joe Wilson a thank you card paid BJ from some world-class porn actress.
ftfy. He's good for it too. Won't need to ask for a loan or anything.
ftfy. He's good for it too. Won't need to ask for a loan or anything.
| Car_Ramrod | 2009-09-10 06:36:42 PM |
| Jackpot777
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2009-09-10 06:39:01 PM |
ace in your face: inglixthemad: Subby: former-Marine Rob Miller
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
A retired Marine is someone who is RETIRED. I don't know whether this guy is or not but he looks pretty young to have had 20 years in.
A former marine is someone who was honorably discharged.
An EX marine is someone who was NOT honorably discharged.
So you may be right, but so might the article. It would be nice if this dude had ANYTHING up about him other than "gimme money". There isn't even access to his facebook page.
How about his HuffPo post from a last year (new window)? A retired Marine and an Iraq veteran, Miller ran without any help from national Democrats as a social conservative and critic of the Bush administration. During that campaign, he blogged for the Huffington Post about his reasons for running:
I never thought I would run for Congress -- or feel like I had to. I have always thought of myself as a Marine. I started thinking that way not long after my father died when I was 14 years old. Since I enlisted at the age of 20, the Marine Corps has been my extended family and I couldn't imagine that would ever change.
But it did after my second tour of duty in Iraq -- where I fought to maintain the peace, but also to enable Iraqis to build better schools, improved hospitals, to help create jobs and, where possible, a stable economy and civil society.
When I returned home to my wife and six year old son, I saw that the politicians in Washington were not fighting for these same things at home. Worse, the congressman who represented the second district where I live -- Rep. Joe Wilson -- was part of that elite circle of George Bush loyalists who chose to enact a radical agenda, never mind the lives and wellbeing of the constituents he was pledged to represent.
/Google. It's there for everyone.
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
A retired Marine is someone who is RETIRED. I don't know whether this guy is or not but he looks pretty young to have had 20 years in.
A former marine is someone who was honorably discharged.
An EX marine is someone who was NOT honorably discharged.
So you may be right, but so might the article. It would be nice if this dude had ANYTHING up about him other than "gimme money". There isn't even access to his facebook page.
How about his HuffPo post from a last year (new window)? A retired Marine and an Iraq veteran, Miller ran without any help from national Democrats as a social conservative and critic of the Bush administration. During that campaign, he blogged for the Huffington Post about his reasons for running:
I never thought I would run for Congress -- or feel like I had to. I have always thought of myself as a Marine. I started thinking that way not long after my father died when I was 14 years old. Since I enlisted at the age of 20, the Marine Corps has been my extended family and I couldn't imagine that would ever change.
But it did after my second tour of duty in Iraq -- where I fought to maintain the peace, but also to enable Iraqis to build better schools, improved hospitals, to help create jobs and, where possible, a stable economy and civil society.
When I returned home to my wife and six year old son, I saw that the politicians in Washington were not fighting for these same things at home. Worse, the congressman who represented the second district where I live -- Rep. Joe Wilson -- was part of that elite circle of George Bush loyalists who chose to enact a radical agenda, never mind the lives and wellbeing of the constituents he was pledged to represent.
/Google. It's there for everyone.
| Vash The Stampede | 2009-09-10 06:43:37 PM |
"That was also the year Joe Wilson instituted his famous "You Lie!" program. You may remember reading about it. It made all the papers and got his picture in LOOK magazine."
"This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the President's remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill. While I disagree with the President's statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility."
"'Course, Wilson failed to mention to the press that "regrettable" is a fairly loose term. There are a hundred different ways to voice a grievance. Yelling inappropriately, donating to someone's political opponent, you name it. And, oh my Lord, how the money rolled in..."
"This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the President's remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill. While I disagree with the President's statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility."
"'Course, Wilson failed to mention to the press that "regrettable" is a fairly loose term. There are a hundred different ways to voice a grievance. Yelling inappropriately, donating to someone's political opponent, you name it. And, oh my Lord, how the money rolled in..."
| Penguin_On_Fire | 2009-09-10 06:47:37 PM |
Hey, Joe Wilson,
The Democratic party would like to extend its sincerest thanks...
The Democratic party would like to extend its sincerest thanks...
| Antonio_Talibanderas | 2009-09-10 07:00:03 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Antonio_Talibanderas: So wait..
Am I to understand that even when the GOP controlled all 3 branches of government, they stood by and did NOTHING to prevent illegals from accessing our healthcare system?
And now they are blaming Obama for maintaining the status quo of not refusing anyone who shows up at the ER?
It's clear that illegals will not receive insurance - or credits - or ongoing healthcare with Obama's plan. The only possible way they receive care is EXACTLY the way they did it when Bush was in office. And yes, they should be vaccinated. Google "herd immunity" to find out why it would be reckless and stupid to exclude a percentage of the population from immunizations.
The GOP had 6 years do to something about this issue, but instead gave tax cuts to the wealthy and started an unnecessary war.
They did nothing about a problem they knew existed.
Again, no party controls the judiciary.
Again, you need to give it up, Mr. Rove. We saw what you did there...
How 'bout addressing the content of my post.... Why didn't the GOP do anything about this illegal immigration problem when they controlled all 3 branches of government?
Stop being so glib about the judiciary. We all know exactly what was going on there. You don't get to revise history. Judges WERE fired for not toeing the GOP party line. As long as you continue to deny this fact, there is no reason to discuss anything with you. Willful ignorance and all that...
Am I to understand that even when the GOP controlled all 3 branches of government, they stood by and did NOTHING to prevent illegals from accessing our healthcare system?
And now they are blaming Obama for maintaining the status quo of not refusing anyone who shows up at the ER?
It's clear that illegals will not receive insurance - or credits - or ongoing healthcare with Obama's plan. The only possible way they receive care is EXACTLY the way they did it when Bush was in office. And yes, they should be vaccinated. Google "herd immunity" to find out why it would be reckless and stupid to exclude a percentage of the population from immunizations.
The GOP had 6 years do to something about this issue, but instead gave tax cuts to the wealthy and started an unnecessary war.
They did nothing about a problem they knew existed.
Again, no party controls the judiciary.
Again, you need to give it up, Mr. Rove. We saw what you did there...
How 'bout addressing the content of my post.... Why didn't the GOP do anything about this illegal immigration problem when they controlled all 3 branches of government?
Stop being so glib about the judiciary. We all know exactly what was going on there. You don't get to revise history. Judges WERE fired for not toeing the GOP party line. As long as you continue to deny this fact, there is no reason to discuss anything with you. Willful ignorance and all that...
| RockIsDead | 2009-09-10 07:06:58 PM |
Wow!
That's almost a third of Charlie Rangel's undeclared financial worth.
Good thing you Dems are keeping the hypocrites out of office!
That's almost a third of Charlie Rangel's undeclared financial worth.
Good thing you Dems are keeping the hypocrites out of office!
| The_Six_Fingered_Man | 2009-09-10 07:07:19 PM |
Antonio_Talibanderas: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Antonio_Talibanderas: So wait..
Am I to understand that even when the GOP controlled all 3 branches of government, they stood by and did NOTHING to prevent illegals from accessing our healthcare system?
And now they are blaming Obama for maintaining the status quo of not refusing anyone who shows up at the ER?
It's clear that illegals will not receive insurance - or credits - or ongoing healthcare with Obama's plan. The only possible way they receive care is EXACTLY the way they did it when Bush was in office. And yes, they should be vaccinated. Google "herd immunity" to find out why it would be reckless and stupid to exclude a percentage of the population from immunizations.
The GOP had 6 years do to something about this issue, but instead gave tax cuts to the wealthy and started an unnecessary war.
They did nothing about a problem they knew existed.
Again, no party controls the judiciary.
Again, you need to give it up, Mr. Rove. We saw what you did there...
How 'bout addressing the content of my post.... Why didn't the GOP do anything about this illegal immigration problem when they controlled all 3 branches of government?
Stop being so glib about the judiciary. We all know exactly what was going on there. You don't get to revise history. Judges WERE fired for not toeing the GOP party line. As long as you continue to deny this fact, there is no reason to discuss anything with you. Willful ignorance and all that...
Federal judges were fired? When was this?
Am I to understand that even when the GOP controlled all 3 branches of government, they stood by and did NOTHING to prevent illegals from accessing our healthcare system?
And now they are blaming Obama for maintaining the status quo of not refusing anyone who shows up at the ER?
It's clear that illegals will not receive insurance - or credits - or ongoing healthcare with Obama's plan. The only possible way they receive care is EXACTLY the way they did it when Bush was in office. And yes, they should be vaccinated. Google "herd immunity" to find out why it would be reckless and stupid to exclude a percentage of the population from immunizations.
The GOP had 6 years do to something about this issue, but instead gave tax cuts to the wealthy and started an unnecessary war.
They did nothing about a problem they knew existed.
Again, no party controls the judiciary.
Again, you need to give it up, Mr. Rove. We saw what you did there...
How 'bout addressing the content of my post.... Why didn't the GOP do anything about this illegal immigration problem when they controlled all 3 branches of government?
Stop being so glib about the judiciary. We all know exactly what was going on there. You don't get to revise history. Judges WERE fired for not toeing the GOP party line. As long as you continue to deny this fact, there is no reason to discuss anything with you. Willful ignorance and all that...
Federal judges were fired? When was this?
| thornhill | 2009-09-10 07:25:06 PM |
HeartBurnKid: Vash The Stampede: It's official. IT'S OVER $500,000!
WHAT? $500,000?!
/ftfy
That's pretty incredible. It makes you wonder if Democrats are really going to lose as many seats as some people predict.
WHAT? $500,000?!
/ftfy
That's pretty incredible. It makes you wonder if Democrats are really going to lose as many seats as some people predict.
| todangst | 2009-09-10 07:27:00 PM |
whistleridge:
Actually, if I had been there, I probably would have been playing a DS or something...I'm there to listen not watch.
Right. Great move, it's not like politics is about perception.....
Here's a clue: George Bush senior might have lost reelection because he looked at his watch during a debate. Perception matters.
Actually, if I had been there, I probably would have been playing a DS or something...I'm there to listen not watch.
Right. Great move, it's not like politics is about perception.....
Here's a clue: George Bush senior might have lost reelection because he looked at his watch during a debate. Perception matters.
| HeartBurnKid | 2009-09-10 07:29:59 PM |
$540,282
| orezona | 2009-09-10 07:35:30 PM |
thornhill: HeartBurnKid: Vash The Stampede: It's official. IT'S OVER $500,000!
WHAT? $500,000?!
/ftfy
That's pretty incredible. It makes you wonder if Democrats are really going to lose as many seats as some people predict.
What, no way! The GOP will never die. The democrat majority in congress... will die. As will your friends. Good, I can feel your anger. I am defenseless. Take your weapon. Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
/or some stupid bullshiat
WHAT? $500,000?!
/ftfy
That's pretty incredible. It makes you wonder if Democrats are really going to lose as many seats as some people predict.
What, no way! The GOP will never die. The democrat majority in congress... will die. As will your friends. Good, I can feel your anger. I am defenseless. Take your weapon. Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
/or some stupid bullshiat
| Harry_Seldon | 2009-09-10 07:37:30 PM |
We need to all respect the Office of President
| todangst | 2009-09-10 07:40:49 PM |
Vash The Stampede
LOL,excellent farker, would LOL again!111
LOL,excellent farker, would LOL again!111
| dbirchall
|
2009-09-10 07:44:34 PM |
I'm waiting for Miller to post something on Twitter updating his "55K raised, let's double THAT in 12 hours" from almost 20 hours ago.
Given that he's now coming up on ten times that amount, I suggest something along the lines of:
OMG WTF LOL!!!11one!!
Given that he's now coming up on ten times that amount, I suggest something along the lines of:
OMG WTF LOL!!!11one!!
| 2wolves | 2009-09-10 07:54:29 PM |
$561,097.00
Well. How about those beans.
Well. How about those beans.
| Antonio_Talibanderas | 2009-09-10 08:04:42 PM |
The_Six_Fingered_Man: cuss anything with you. Willful ignorance and all that...
Federal judges were fired? When was this?
I misspoke. I meant US Attorneys - you still don't get to claim the judiciary was impartial during the Bush Admin.
You still haven't explained why Bush didn't do anything to prevent illegal immigrants from using our healthcare system from 2000-2006.
Are you saying it would have been impossible because the judiciary is not partisan? Wouldn't that still be true for Obama? You expect Obama to accomplish something that Bush was unable to do? Do you want the judiciary to become a tool of the Executive Branch to accomplish this end? Explain how we could make it illegal for illegals to receive any care - even in the ERs. Then explain why Bush didn't do just that.
Federal judges were fired? When was this?
I misspoke. I meant US Attorneys - you still don't get to claim the judiciary was impartial during the Bush Admin.
You still haven't explained why Bush didn't do anything to prevent illegal immigrants from using our healthcare system from 2000-2006.
Are you saying it would have been impossible because the judiciary is not partisan? Wouldn't that still be true for Obama? You expect Obama to accomplish something that Bush was unable to do? Do you want the judiciary to become a tool of the Executive Branch to accomplish this end? Explain how we could make it illegal for illegals to receive any care - even in the ERs. Then explain why Bush didn't do just that.
| whidbey
|
2009-09-10 08:08:32 PM |
RockIsDead (favorite: TROLL) Quote 2009-09-10 08:05:41 PM
Account created: 2003-11-18 15:13:28
It took you this long to rev up to full-blown asshole?
Does anyone else remember RID being this obnoxious?
or was it just some login you had lying around all these years?
Account created: 2003-11-18 15:13:28
It took you this long to rev up to full-blown asshole?
Does anyone else remember RID being this obnoxious?
or was it just some login you had lying around all these years?
| brainiac-dumdum
|
2009-09-10 08:11:21 PM |
Apparently, Wilson is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
What a surprise
What a surprise
| ChickenTits | 2009-09-10 08:19:04 PM |
Ha! This is fantastic. I wish I could contribute. I heard Sean Hannity interviewing this douchebag on his show this afternoon, and the thorough ball-licking Mr. Hannity bestowed upon him was disturbing. He applauded Mr. Wilson's "courage" and called for everyone to contribute to his campaign. It looks like that hasn't worked out too well for him.
On another note: RockIsDead has the most pretentious profile I've ever seen on fark. Rock isn't dead, but I really wish that he was.
On another note: RockIsDead has the most pretentious profile I've ever seen on fark. Rock isn't dead, but I really wish that he was.
| HeartBurnKid | 2009-09-10 09:05:55 PM |
ChickenTits: Ha! This is fantastic. I wish I could contribute. I heard Sean Hannity interviewing this douchebag on his show this afternoon, and the thorough ball-licking Mr. Hannity bestowed upon him was disturbing. He applauded Mr. Wilson's "courage" and called for everyone to contribute to his campaign. It looks like that hasn't worked out too well for him.
On another note: RockIsDead has the most pretentious profile I've ever seen on fark. Rock isn't dead, but I really wish that he was.
*clicks on RID's profile*
Wow, talk about finding the most pretentious, douchebaggy way possible to say "your favorite band sucks"
On another note: RockIsDead has the most pretentious profile I've ever seen on fark. Rock isn't dead, but I really wish that he was.
*clicks on RID's profile*
Wow, talk about finding the most pretentious, douchebaggy way possible to say "your favorite band sucks"
| stinieroo
|
2009-09-10 09:19:12 PM |
Vash The Stampede: Rush is saying Miller is $400,000 in debt, so of course the Freepers are laughing
According to OpenSecrets, Miller had 48,000 cash on hand at the end of June 2009. See for yourself. (new window) At the end of June, Wilson had $211,000 on hand.
But I'm sure this cited information doesn't counter what "Rush said."
According to OpenSecrets, Miller had 48,000 cash on hand at the end of June 2009. See for yourself. (new window) At the end of June, Wilson had $211,000 on hand.
But I'm sure this cited information doesn't counter what "Rush said."
| bartink | 2009-09-10 09:31:10 PM |
HeartBurnKid: *clicks on RID's profile*
Wow, talk about finding the most pretentious, douchebaggy way possible to say "your favorite band sucks"
Ironic, cause his party is dying.
Wow, talk about finding the most pretentious, douchebaggy way possible to say "your favorite band sucks"
Ironic, cause his party is dying.
| T-Luv | 2009-09-10 09:32:32 PM |
Up over 600,000 now. He could probably wind up with a million just off of one stupid act made by Joe Wilson. Public opinion is a biatch. That's why you don't fark around. He could have flown under the radar, but he had to be an attention whore. He just may lose his seat over it.
| ace in your face | 2009-09-10 09:41:59 PM |
Jackpot777: ace in your face: inglixthemad: Subby: former-Marine Rob Miller
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
A retired Marine is someone who is RETIRED. I don't know whether this guy is or not but he looks pretty young to have had 20 years in.
A former marine is someone who was honorably discharged.
An EX marine is someone who was NOT honorably discharged.
So you may be right, but so might the article. It would be nice if this dude had ANYTHING up about him other than "gimme money". There isn't even access to his facebook page.
How about his HuffPo post from a last year (new window)? A retired Marine and an Iraq veteran, Miller ran without any help from national Democrats as a social conservative and critic of the Bush administration. During that campaign, he blogged for the Huffington Post about his reasons for running:
I never thought I would run for Congress -- or feel like I had to. I have always thought of myself as a Marine. I started thinking that way not long after my father died when I was 14 years old. Since I enlisted at the age of 20, the Marine Corps has been my extended family and I couldn't imagine that would ever change.
But it did after my second tour of duty in Iraq -- where I fought to maintain the peace, but also to enable Iraqis to build better schools, improved hospitals, to help create jobs and, where possible, a stable economy and civil society.
When I returned home to my wife and six year old son, I saw that the politicians in Washington were not fighting for these same things at home. Worse, the congressman who represented the second district where I live -- Rep. Joe Wilson -- was part of that elite circle of George Bush loyalists who chose to enact a radical agenda, never mind the lives and wellbeing of the constituents he was pledged to represent.
/Google. It's there for everyone.
That didn't show up in my google search(although I didn't dig for hours about it), but even so, that doesn't give anything about his positions on the issues which is a requirement if I am going to give money to anyone. Plus, in an article I just found, he is a 13 year veteran which makes him a former marine not a retired one.
That's retired Marine subby. You are always a Marine, retired or not.
A retired Marine is someone who is RETIRED. I don't know whether this guy is or not but he looks pretty young to have had 20 years in.
A former marine is someone who was honorably discharged.
An EX marine is someone who was NOT honorably discharged.
So you may be right, but so might the article. It would be nice if this dude had ANYTHING up about him other than "gimme money". There isn't even access to his facebook page.
How about his HuffPo post from a last year (new window)? A retired Marine and an Iraq veteran, Miller ran without any help from national Democrats as a social conservative and critic of the Bush administration. During that campaign, he blogged for the Huffington Post about his reasons for running:
I never thought I would run for Congress -- or feel like I had to. I have always thought of myself as a Marine. I started thinking that way not long after my father died when I was 14 years old. Since I enlisted at the age of 20, the Marine Corps has been my extended family and I couldn't imagine that would ever change.
But it did after my second tour of duty in Iraq -- where I fought to maintain the peace, but also to enable Iraqis to build better schools, improved hospitals, to help create jobs and, where possible, a stable economy and civil society.
When I returned home to my wife and six year old son, I saw that the politicians in Washington were not fighting for these same things at home. Worse, the congressman who represented the second district where I live -- Rep. Joe Wilson -- was part of that elite circle of George Bush loyalists who chose to enact a radical agenda, never mind the lives and wellbeing of the constituents he was pledged to represent.
/Google. It's there for everyone.
That didn't show up in my google search(although I didn't dig for hours about it), but even so, that doesn't give anything about his positions on the issues which is a requirement if I am going to give money to anyone. Plus, in an article I just found, he is a 13 year veteran which makes him a former marine not a retired one.
| stinieroo
|
2009-09-10 09:51:22 PM |
ace in your face: That didn't show up in my google search(although I didn't dig for hours about it), but even so, that doesn't give anything about his positions on the issues which is a requirement if I am going to give money to anyone. Plus, in an article I just found, he is a 13 year veteran which makes him a former marine not a retired one.
Took me 30 seconds...seriously... (new window)
And for good measure, here's a Google cache of his Issues page
Next time, I won't be so nice.
Took me 30 seconds...seriously... (new window)
And for good measure, here's a Google cache of his Issues page
Next time, I won't be so nice.
| moralpanic | 2009-09-10 10:02:05 PM |
HOLY CRAP!!! He's up to 620k now!
| kpaxoid | 2009-09-10 10:13:12 PM |
timmy_the_tooth: Obama should have gone George Carlin (new window) (NSFW) on his ass.
Ya gotta use sycology
Ya gotta use sycology
| BioGuy741 | 2009-09-10 11:18:43 PM |
Anyone wanna take bets on Joe Wilson killing himself after he loses his seat due to his inability to control his retarded impulses?
| ace in your face | 2009-09-10 11:22:23 PM |
stinieroo: ace in your face: That didn't show up in my google search(although I didn't dig for hours about it), but even so, that doesn't give anything about his positions on the issues which is a requirement if I am going to give money to anyone. Plus, in an article I just found, he is a 13 year veteran which makes him a former marine not a retired one.
Took me 30 seconds...seriously... (new window)
And for good measure, here's a Google cache of his Issues page
Next time, I won't be so nice.
And yet that still doesn't contain the information I wanted. Are you hard of reading?
Took me 30 seconds...seriously... (new window)
And for good measure, here's a Google cache of his Issues page
Next time, I won't be so nice.
And yet that still doesn't contain the information I wanted. Are you hard of reading?
| T-Luv | 2009-09-11 12:22:12 AM |
BioGuy741: Anyone wanna take bets on Joe Wilson killing himself after he loses his seat due to his inability to control his retarded impulses?
He's gonna run with Palin for the POTUS. Mark my words
He's gonna run with Palin for the POTUS. Mark my words
| stinieroo
|
2009-09-11 12:31:57 AM |
ace in your face: stinieroo: ace in your face: That didn't show up in my google search(although I didn't dig for hours about it), but even so, that doesn't give anything about his positions on the issues which is a requirement if I am going to give money to anyone. Plus, in an article I just found, he is a 13 year veteran which makes him a former marine not a retired one.
Took me 30 seconds...seriously... (new window)
And for good measure, here's a Google cache of his Issues page
Next time, I won't be so nice.
And yet that still doesn't contain the information I wanted. Are you hard of reading?
You said you couldn't find the article Jackpot777 referenced. Then you said that you couldn't donate to someone whose political positions were unknown to you. Then you went into an argument about semantics.
I can read words just fine. I cannot, however, read minds.
/which one of us is drinking heavily again? farking Titans...
Took me 30 seconds...seriously... (new window)
And for good measure, here's a Google cache of his Issues page
Next time, I won't be so nice.
And yet that still doesn't contain the information I wanted. Are you hard of reading?
You said you couldn't find the article Jackpot777 referenced. Then you said that you couldn't donate to someone whose political positions were unknown to you. Then you went into an argument about semantics.
I can read words just fine. I cannot, however, read minds.
/which one of us is drinking heavily again? farking Titans...
| BioGuy741 | 2009-09-11 12:36:31 AM |
T-Luv: BioGuy741: Anyone wanna take bets on Joe Wilson killing himself after he loses his seat due to his inability to control his retarded impulses?
He's gonna run with Palin for the POTUS. Mark my words
OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEAS E OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE!!!
God, if you let this happen, I will start thinking that you might exist.
He's gonna run with Palin for the POTUS. Mark my words
OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEAS E OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE!!!
God, if you let this happen, I will start thinking that you might exist.
| LockeOak | 2009-09-11 12:37:29 AM |
moralpanic: HOLY CRAP!!! He's up to 620k now!
2.5 hours later, another $60k to $680k, average of $36.6 dollars per person.
2.5 hours later, another $60k to $680k, average of $36.6 dollars per person.
| Notabunny | 2009-09-11 02:22:07 AM |
subby Rob Miller, has received nearly 3,000 individual grassroots contributions raising approximately $100,000
$694,585 (new window)
$694,585 (new window)
| ace in your face | 2009-09-11 03:50:12 AM |
stinieroo: ace in your face: stinieroo: ace in your face: That didn't show up in my google search(although I didn't dig for hours about it), but even so, that doesn't give anything about his positions on the issues which is a requirement if I am going to give money to anyone. Plus, in an article I just found, he is a 13 year veteran which makes him a former marine not a retired one.
Took me 30 seconds...seriously... (new window)
And for good measure, here's a Google cache of his Issues page
Next time, I won't be so nice.
And yet that still doesn't contain the information I wanted. Are you hard of reading?
You said you couldn't find the article Jackpot777 referenced. Then you said that you couldn't donate to someone whose political positions were unknown to you. Then you went into an argument about semantics.
I can read words just fine. I cannot, however, read minds.
/which one of us is drinking heavily again? farking Titans...
Why don't you read my original post and then tell me how that article applies. The huffpo article was provided to correct me about whether he was a retired or former marine, and the article INCORRECTLY calls him a retired marine. Wanting a site about a candidate that isn't just a "gimme money" button is hardly anything to do with "semantics" which does not mean what you seem to think it means, and the huffpo article didn't provide anything about his history or POLITICAL background either. You don't have to read minds, you just need a reading comprehension class.
/Maybe you should stop drinking heavily. Or supporting a shiatty team like the Titans.
Took me 30 seconds...seriously... (new window)
And for good measure, here's a Google cache of his Issues page
Next time, I won't be so nice.
And yet that still doesn't contain the information I wanted. Are you hard of reading?
You said you couldn't find the article Jackpot777 referenced. Then you said that you couldn't donate to someone whose political positions were unknown to you. Then you went into an argument about semantics.
I can read words just fine. I cannot, however, read minds.
/which one of us is drinking heavily again? farking Titans...
Why don't you read my original post and then tell me how that article applies. The huffpo article was provided to correct me about whether he was a retired or former marine, and the article INCORRECTLY calls him a retired marine. Wanting a site about a candidate that isn't just a "gimme money" button is hardly anything to do with "semantics" which does not mean what you seem to think it means, and the huffpo article didn't provide anything about his history or POLITICAL background either. You don't have to read minds, you just need a reading comprehension class.
/Maybe you should stop drinking heavily. Or supporting a shiatty team like the Titans.
| Notabunny | 2009-09-11 04:09:09 AM |
Help support Joe "Screed and Greed" Wilson
"Will you stand with me today and help me fight back against liberal attacks by making a donation to my campaign?" (new window)
"Will you stand with me today and help me fight back against liberal attacks by making a donation to my campaign?" (new window)
| Harry_Seldon | 2009-09-11 06:33:57 AM |
Notabunny: Help support Joe "Screed and Greed" Wilson
"Will you stand with me today and help me fight back against liberal attacks by making a donation to my campaign?" (new window)
That bird is one odd duck.
"Will you stand with me today and help me fight back against liberal attacks by making a donation to my campaign?" (new window)
That bird is one odd duck.
| dodecahedron
|
2009-09-11 07:42:20 AM |
$707,001...I love it. Let's get him to a million.
| suebhoney | 2009-09-11 08:50:00 AM |
http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/19079
Over $714,000.
Republicans didn't learn a damn thing from the 2008 election and how their own are slowly killing their party.
Over $714,000.
Republicans didn't learn a damn thing from the 2008 election and how their own are slowly killing their party.
| Marquis de Sod
|
2009-09-11 09:41:04 AM |
BioGuy741: Anyone wanna take bets on Joe Wilson killing himself after he loses his seat due to his inability to control his retarded impulses?
I would not characterize Joe Wilson killing himself as a "retarded impulse."
I would not characterize Joe Wilson killing himself as a "retarded impulse."
| Testiclaw | 2009-09-11 09:51:14 AM |
727,009
I will lol even harder if he breaks a mill
I will lol even harder if he breaks a mill
| abb3w
|
2009-09-11 12:41:22 PM |
Looks to have leveled out; he probably won't break a million before next weekend, unless Representative Wilson does something even stupider.
| 2wolves | 2009-09-11 04:12:56 PM |
abb3w: Looks to have leveled out; he probably won't break a million before next weekend, unless Representative Wilson does something even stupider.
Unless put into full body restraint the odds are 70/30 he flips out in public.
That's what paint chip eating pseudo-conservatives do.
Unless put into full body restraint the odds are 70/30 he flips out in public.
That's what paint chip eating pseudo-conservatives do.
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