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PapermonkeyExpress [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 08:24:14 AM  
OHHELLNO! Smoking pot to treat seasonal allergies????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Whatever.

Cue the Fark Pot BrigadeTM to chime in with their pseudoscience supporting the treatment.

 
PainInTheASP [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 08:38:09 AM  
PapermonkeyExpress: OHHELLNO! Smoking pot to treat seasonal allergies????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Whatever.

Cue the Fark Pot BrigadeTM to chime in with their pseudoscience supporting the treatment.


Pot cures allergies by making you really dig that homemade pizza with the smoked mozzarella and chopped green onions. You know man. The one we made for the hobbit movie. No, the second one. Did I ever tell you that my uncle looks like Gollum? Yeah, you can totally see it if you look at him from the right side. From the left side he just looks like a skinny Jabba the Hut from the original Star Wars--before the CGI crap was added in.

Hey, is anyone hungry for some pizza?

 
St_Francis_P [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 08:54:02 AM  
I bet the delivery guys get really tired of that "Dave's not here" shtick.

 
jehovahs witness protection [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-19 09:02:38 AM  
Papa Juan's delivery?
extra shrooms

 
kona [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 09:30:44 AM  
if they deliver beer and pizza too......

 
fuzzwell [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 09:47:07 AM  
If I could legally get some nice pot, I would smoke it.

It's been 20 years since I had any.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 10:27:05 AM  
PapermonkeyExpress: OHHELLNO! Smoking pot to treat seasonal allergies????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Whatever.

Cue the Fark Pot BrigadeTM to chime in with their pseudoscience supporting the treatment.


This is where you were supposed to tell us all that pot makes you into a rage zombie from 28 days later. Because that's the government's official line on what cannabis does to you.

 
edgar1981 2009-07-19 10:39:05 AM  
i'm high as fark right now, so i'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

well, not so much a kick, more a nudge.

 
error4829 2009-07-19 10:42:04 AM  
Damn hippy farks in CA are driving up the price of good weed allover the country.

 
Little_Dictator [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 10:42:38 AM  
As it should be. Fortunately, it's hard to justify spending the money to lock up pot-heads in an economic crunch. When push comes to shove, the lawmakers have to grudgingly accept they'll have to settle with going after murderers and rapists instead of easier targets.

 
Satan's Cheese Cancer 2009-07-19 10:43:24 AM  
And freedom will come rolling back all because uncle Sam just can't afford the alternative. Guess the economic "crater" has some positive sides.

 
Nicholas Urfe 2009-07-19 10:44:10 AM  
Hey guys! I've got this really funny headline. It's a quote from an article with part of an irrelevant meme at the end. It's gonna be hilarious.

 
PacManDreaming [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 10:44:14 AM  
Weaver95: This is where you were supposed to tell us all that pot makes you into a rage zombie from 28 days later. Because that's the government's official line on what cannabis does to you.

No, no, no...pot makes everyone who smokes it lazy and stupid. I learned that from the Fark "I've never tried it and if you attempt to tell me anything different than what the government says about it I'll stick my fingers in my ears and scream 'LA LA LA LA LA' at the top of my lungs" Brigade®.

 
Broadside 2009-07-19 10:46:27 AM  
"More and more, having premium pot delivered to your door in California is not a crime. It is a legitimate business." Serious business

Serious business? Sounds like...RISKY BUSINESS!

cinie.files.wordpress.com

 
Riche [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 10:46:31 AM  
i181.photobucket.com

 
TheMadChaosopher 2009-07-19 10:46:45 AM  
the thing about pot being illegal, and thereby completely unregulated is that it actually makes it WAY easier for kids to get it.

i know a lot of teenagers who smoke pot all the time and have no problem finding and buying it, but whenever they want alcohol or cigs they need someone else to buy it for them.

if it were legal and regulated like alcohol it would drive the gangs out of business (out of the pot business at least), cuz noone would want to buy some home-grown weed from some dude if they could go to a liquor store buy a pack of Marlboro or Jack Daniels or Newport Joints.

those tobacco companies would have their scientists engineer the best weed imaginable.

i don't smoke it, but i don;t care who else does, and it seems to me that if it were legal and regulated it would be a lot harder for kids to get their hands on.

 
skinink 2009-07-19 10:47:29 AM  
Well, somebody should've told this to Robert Parish before he got his weed delivered by Fedex.

 
tortilla burger 2009-07-19 10:49:57 AM  
TheMadChaosopher: those tobacco companies would have their scientists engineer the best weed imaginable.

heh. no, if they had half a brain they'd mix weed with nicotine so that it'll become addictive. then they'd deny it in court (cuz you know, nicotine isn't addictive), pay off the congressmen and voila.

 
scavenger 2009-07-19 10:50:20 AM  
"Tell Sampson I said hi."

 
Vern the Worm 2009-07-19 10:51:02 AM  
Either legalize pot on a federal level or do away with alcohol sales. Smoking pot is probably safer and helps you get through a Dominoes Pizza easier.

 
PacManDreaming [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 10:53:42 AM  
TheMadChaosopher: those tobacco companies would have their scientists engineer the best weed imaginable.

Why would they do that when they can buy seeds from Canada or The Netherlands that already are some of the best strains that growers have to offer? Some of the strains out there now will knock your dick in the dirt. There are several varieties that are consistently over 20% THC content. And if you make kief or hash from them...holy crap!

In order to cut out the black market, the government will have to keep the price so low it's cheaper to buy than to grow your own or buy from someone who grows.

 
SharkTrager 2009-07-19 10:55:20 AM  
TheMadChaosopher: the thing about pot being illegal, and thereby completely unregulated is that it actually makes it WAY easier for kids to get it.

i know a lot of teenagers who smoke pot all the time and have no problem finding and buying it, but whenever they want alcohol or cigs they need someone else to buy it for them.

if it were legal and regulated like alcohol it would drive the gangs out of business (out of the pot business at least), cuz noone would want to buy some home-grown weed from some dude if they could go to a liquor store buy a pack of Marlboro or Jack Daniels or Newport Joints.

those tobacco companies would have their scientists engineer the best weed imaginable.

i don't smoke it, but i don;t care who else does, and it seems to me that if it were legal and regulated it would be a lot harder for kids to get their hands on.


I agree to a point, but there is one huge difference. Cigarettes and booze are a lot tougher to produce than pot. Even if legalized and regulated you will still have people growing their own and selling it. That really weakens the comparison as enough people have to stop producing/selling to truly make it harder for kids to find. The bigger issue will be if the legalization lowers prices enough that the profit margin for the dealers move on to something else.

 
limboslam 2009-07-19 10:57:34 AM  
PapermonkeyExpress: OHHELLNO! Smoking pot to treat seasonal allergies????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Whatever.

Cue the Fark Pot BrigadeTM to chime in with their pseudoscience supporting the treatment.



i486.photobucket.com

 
TheMadChaosopher 2009-07-19 10:58:07 AM  
the Government doesn't have to "keep the price low", the competition between the tobacco and alcohol and whatever companies who sell it will keep the price down.

 
PacManDreaming [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 10:59:20 AM  
TheMadChaosopher: the Government doesn't have to "keep the price low", the competition between the tobacco and alcohol and whatever companies who sell it will keep the price down.

Ever heard of taxes? Put too many of them on pot and no one will want to buy what is legally produced.

 
TheMadChaosopher 2009-07-19 11:02:13 AM  
PacManDreaming: TheMadChaosopher: the Government doesn't have to "keep the price low", the competition between the tobacco and alcohol and whatever companies who sell it will keep the price down.

Ever heard of taxes? Put too many of them on pot and no one will want to buy what is legally produced.


even if it costs twice as much, i think most potheads would much rather buy quality product from a reputable company, instead of from some random guy growing who knows what in his basement.

i REALLY like beer, and i dont mind paying for Guinness cuz I am garranteed what i'll get.

buy pot from just anyone and you never know what to expect.

when i was a teen and i bought pot, it was like crap shoot, sometimes it was brown seedy crap, sometimes it was green and great.

i cant imagine its any different now.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 11:03:15 AM  
PacManDreaming: TheMadChaosopher: the Government doesn't have to "keep the price low", the competition between the tobacco and alcohol and whatever companies who sell it will keep the price down.

Ever heard of taxes? Put too many of them on pot and no one will want to buy what is legally produced.


they'll just go back to smuggling it again. Same as we do whenever liquor prices/controls get too much. Hmm....we do that with music as well, now that I think about it.

Smuggling - it's an American institution!

 
iamrex [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 11:05:45 AM  
SharkTrager: The bigger issue will be if the legalization lowers prices enough that the profit margin for the dealers move on to something else.

Heh. I seriously doubt that street level pot dealers think about profit margins. It also seems unlikely that a grow house is going to go into business producing meth instead of growing because of profit margins.

 
PacManDreaming [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 11:07:55 AM  
TheMadChaosopher: even if it costs twice as much, i think most potheads would much rather buy quality product from a reputable company, instead of from some random guy growing who knows what in his basement.

You don't know too much about marijuana grow operations, do you? They have several places like this in Canada and Europe. Lots of people buy from them. Most people aren't gonna grow ditch weed because they'll never get repeat customers.

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-19 11:09:06 AM  
Yea! POT thread!

Once they start collecting taxes on something, it becomes a necessary source of revenue. A source they won't easily give up once the real revenue potential is realized.

After the Revolution, the fledgling government started taxing Alcohol as a means of revenue to help pay down the war debt. We tried Prohibition and it failed. The loss of revenue from alcohol taxes and the subsequent rise of the criminal element that catered to the demand for alcohol doomed Prohibition.

I see this as the first step in a process that will eventually legalize pot. Once the Government gets a taste of that tax money, there is no going back.

 
spill_thrill 2009-07-19 11:12:13 AM  
Riche

What the hell? I was coming here to post that! Damn you!

 
jenniferwillow 2009-07-19 11:12:40 AM  
PacManDreaming: TheMadChaosopher: the Government doesn't have to "keep the price low", the competition between the tobacco and alcohol and whatever companies who sell it will keep the price down.

Ever heard of taxes? Put too many of them on pot and no one will want to buy what is legally produced.


Which is the exact reason why all drinkers have a still in their backyard, a home brewing operation in their kitchen, and all smokers have an allotment of 10 tobacco plants in their garden. Sure, right.......

 
walnuts55 [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 11:13:24 AM  
Pot will become legal. I quit this year because I need to drop 10 lbs. I miss my smoke, Oh well enough about me, Smoke it if you have it.

 
MBooda 2009-07-19 11:16:00 AM  
Dave? Dave? DAVE?

 
WRC 2009-07-19 11:16:18 AM  
limboslam:

I don't have anything to add to this discussion, I just wanted to say, I love that picture.

 
D-D-D-Dave 2009-07-19 11:17:39 AM  
MBooda: Dave? Dave? DAVE?

Dave's not here man

 
Rainstar 2009-07-19 11:23:02 AM  
Offering delivery services to the Seattle area so I'm getting a kick and what not....

/Only to those w/ proper paperwork
/email is in profile

 
rorypk 2009-07-19 11:27:33 AM  
I'd bet every penny that I'll earn in my lifetime that pot will not be legal within the next 20 years

/wants it legalized

 
Oh_Enough_Already 2009-07-19 11:29:10 AM  
Same thing is available in NYC sans perscription.

/and cash only.

 
The_Philosopher_King 2009-07-19 11:29:49 AM  
So are companies still allowed to do drug screens before hiring? Or are you given a pass on it if you got a script?

Is this the end of pee tests?

 
Dear_Leader 2009-07-19 11:30:26 AM  
In Kunckastan you can order online Link (new window)
I bought some a few years ago came in the mail vacuum packed in a little Tupperware dish :)

 
Ender's [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 11:41:07 AM  
Marijuana plantations in remote forests cause severe environmental damage

ford Citation needed.

 
antoniojvr 2009-07-19 11:44:20 AM  
PapermonkeyExpress: OHHELLNO! Smoking pot to treat seasonal allergies????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Whatever.

Cue the Fark Pot BrigadeTM to chime in with their pseudoscience supporting the treatment.


What is not a pseudoscience is the fact that the gov ha no right to make it illegal in the first place, you fascist.

 
Rainstar 2009-07-19 11:45:51 AM  
The_Philosopher_King: So are companies still allowed to do drug screens before hiring? Or are you given a pass on it if you got a script?

Is this the end of pee tests?


Nope, pee tests will still be legal. In fact, at least in WA, an employer is not required to accommodate MMJ patients at all. Just because it's legal for you, it doesn't mean you can force your work to let you do it there.

/THC in food FTW
/realizes that doesn't help those who get tested :(

 
Scruffinator 2009-07-19 11:48:19 AM  
TheMadChaosopher: PacManDreaming: TheMadChaosopher: the Government doesn't have to "keep the price low", the competition between the tobacco and alcohol and whatever companies who sell it will keep the price down.

Ever heard of taxes? Put too many of them on pot and no one will want to buy what is legally produced.

even if it costs twice as much, i think most potheads would much rather buy quality product from a reputable company, instead of from some random guy growing who knows what in his basement.

i REALLY like beer, and i dont mind paying for Guinness cuz I am garranteed what i'll get.

buy pot from just anyone and you never know what to expect.

when i was a teen and i bought pot, it was like crap shoot, sometimes it was brown seedy crap, sometimes it was green and great.

i cant imagine its any different now.


It's not. I(and many of my friends) would gladly pay twice what we do now if we knew exactly what we were getting beforehand. In the black market, it seems there is never one single dude who can always get similar quality stuff. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, and sometimes you question whether there was ever any THC in it to begin with. It's very annoying.

 
BunkyBrewman [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 11:48:50 AM  
The bottom line is very, very simple:
Those who wish to smoke pot... do.

 
Ender's [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 11:51:14 AM  
Sorry, that article was mostly bullshiat.

Example:


Oaksterdam University's main campus is a prominent fixture in revitalized downtown Oakland.

All without legalization.


lol wut?

 
Mandapants 2009-07-19 11:52:55 AM  
fuzzwell: If I could legally get some nice pot, I would smoke it.

It's been 20 years since I had any.


Same here. Waiting eagerly for legalization. Will buy ASAP.

Husband will be pissed -- he's a "Friend of Bill". Will have to see if the marriage survives. Apparently, I'm not allowed a choice.

/make the bulk of the income

 
albertalaska 2009-07-19 11:53:54 AM  
Is there any way to convict lawmakers of murder? They made pot illegal , therefore expensive , hence gangs are murdering citizens in drug wars.......... connect the dots..........................

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-19 12:00:33 PM  
Anyone willing to do the research (and assume the inherent risk of getting busted) can grow high quality weed.

Potency is 95% genetics and 5% environmental. Once you understand the environmental aspect, all you need is access to quality genetics.

It's a weed. It flourishes in an amazingly wide environmental spectrum.

 
Oh_Enough_Already 2009-07-19 12:01:19 PM  
Scruffinator:
i cant imagine its any different now.

It's not. I(and many of my friends) would gladly pay twice what we do now if we knew exactly what we were getting beforehand. In the black market, it seems there is never one single dude who can always get similar quality stuff. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, and sometimes you question whether there was ever any THC in it to begin with. It's very annoying.


Dude, you need new dealers.

 
Ender's [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 12:01:35 PM  
Mandapants: fuzzwell: If I could legally get some nice pot, I would smoke it.

It's been 20 years since I had any.

Same here. Waiting eagerly for legalization. Will buy ASAP.

Husband will be pissed -- he's a "Friend of Bill". Will have to see if the marriage survives. Apparently, I'm not allowed a choice.

/make the bulk of the income


Sorry to hear about that, sister.

 
SharkTrager 2009-07-19 12:10:33 PM  
iamrex: SharkTrager: The bigger issue will be if the legalization lowers prices enough that the profit margin for the dealers move on to something else.

Heh. I seriously doubt that street level pot dealers think about profit margins. It also seems unlikely that a grow house is going to go into business producing meth instead of growing because of profit margins.


The typical dealer is smart enough to figure out if they are making enough money to make it worthwhile. The same goes for growers. Bring corporate America in to the business and they will be able to produce massive volumes of pot and that is going to drive costs down unless there is also a dramatic increase in production.

When prohibition ended the profit margin dropped and the bootleggers went in to something else. The same thing will happen when pot is legalized.

 
SharkTrager 2009-07-19 12:11:08 PM  
SharkTrager: iamrex: SharkTrager: The bigger issue will be if the legalization lowers prices enough that the profit margin for the dealers move on to something else.

Heh. I seriously doubt that street level pot dealers think about profit margins. It also seems unlikely that a grow house is going to go into business producing meth instead of growing because of profit margins.

The typical dealer is smart enough to figure out if they are making enough money to make it worthwhile. The same goes for growers. Bring corporate America in to the business and they will be able to produce massive volumes of pot and that is going to drive costs down unless there is also a dramatic increase in production.

When prohibition ended the profit margin dropped and the bootleggers went in to something else. The same thing will happen when pot is legalized.


*consumption

/FTFM

 
TripSixes 2009-07-19 12:17:30 PM  
BunkyBrewman: The bottom line is very, very simple:
Those who wish to smoke pot... do.


That's not necessarily true.

 
whammer 2009-07-19 12:28:22 PM  
i2.photobucket.com

Got nothin'.

 
hoots 2009-07-19 12:44:02 PM  
I have the necessary paperwork, but I have to travel about an hour to get to the shops, this would be great!

/can't feel the slashies anymore
//improved quality of life FTW

 
raunchy 2009-07-19 12:49:01 PM  
TripSixes: BunkyBrewman: The bottom line is very, very simple:
Those who wish to smoke pot... do.

That's not necessarily true.


Seconded. If you are advancing in a company that still administers drug tests for significant promotions, you don't smoke. I can only hope that the prohibition ends soon.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 12:54:39 PM  
raunchy: TripSixes: BunkyBrewman: The bottom line is very, very simple:
Those who wish to smoke pot... do.

That's not necessarily true.

Seconded. If you are advancing in a company that still administers drug tests for significant promotions, you don't smoke. I can only hope that the prohibition ends soon.


I'm still amazed that we live in a nation where we demand janitors get invasive drug tests but you can be elected senator and never have to pee in a cup.

 
raunchy 2009-07-19 01:03:12 PM  
Weaver95: I'm still amazed that we live in a nation where we demand janitors get invasive drug tests but you can be elected senator and never have to pee in a cup

That's because they would never be able to live up to the standards they help enforce. The hysteria surrounding marijuana (on both sides of the debate) really needs to end. There is one undeniable truth in this situation. Weed is a whole lot safer than a large number of legally available pharmaceuticals (sp?), as well as alcohol. The fact that it remains illegal baffles me.

 
Mongo cut wood 2009-07-19 01:03:59 PM  
Now California has 0% crime due to the legalization of pot.

 
LittleBlondeJug [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 01:04:19 PM  
I think that we really are getting closer and closer to seeing pot legalized. Pot is a stimulant, and it is illegal. Alcohol is a depressant, and yet it is legal.

I don't get it.

 
SnakeLee [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 01:19:36 PM  
LittleSmitty: Anyone willing to do the research (and assume the inherent risk of getting busted) can grow high quality weed.

Potency is 95% genetics and 5% environmental. Once you understand the environmental aspect, all you need is access to quality genetics.

It's a weed. It flourishes in an amazingly wide environmental spectrum.


Everything but the last part is false. Genetics are like half of it. Growing it correctly makes a huge difference. A fair amount of the bad pot that is sold is good weed grown poorly.

/I haven't smoked in forever - it's been since like Thursday. Ugh

 
Architecture Of Aggression 2009-07-19 01:20:45 PM  
there's no pseudoscience involved in loving to get high

 
spentmiles 2009-07-19 01:24:15 PM  
Weed is a gateway to other, more serious addictions. Like cheddar cheese pretzel Combos... mmm... Gateway drug...

 
D_Evans45 2009-07-19 01:30:32 PM  
I deliver premium pot to people's doorsteps, and have since I harvested my first plants 1t 19.

It's fun too, all kinds of crazy shiat starts when your customers invite you in. The other day we we're taking beer bongs and getting stoned with the pizza guy, who was fu king ridiculous at Gears of War 2. We ended up in the backyard throwing each other around (my buddy trains Judo), farkin little pizza guy was strong.

Girls are addicted to my weed too, it's like a pussy coupon. I got a couple girls good like that, where all I gotta do is bring over some weed.

/Always on time
//Blow NYC delivery out of the water

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-19 01:32:48 PM  
SnakeLee: LittleSmitty: Anyone willing to do the research (and assume the inherent risk of getting busted) can grow high quality weed.

Potency is 95% genetics and 5% environmental. Once you understand the environmental aspect, all you need is access to quality genetics.

It's a weed. It flourishes in an amazingly wide environmental spectrum.

Everything but the last part is false. Genetics are like half of it. Growing it correctly makes a huge difference. A fair amount of the bad pot that is sold is good weed grown poorly.

/I haven't smoked in forever - it's been since like Thursday. Ugh


You must have missed the first sentence. You know, where I said "do the research"

If people are growing sub-par weed, it's laziness or greed. My money is on greed.

Again, if you are willing to do the research needed, and have access to decent genetics, anyone can grow high quality weed.

 
Rainstar 2009-07-19 01:45:43 PM  
LittleSmitty: SnakeLee: LittleSmitty: Anyone willing to do the research (and assume the inherent risk of getting busted) can grow high quality weed.

Potency is 95% genetics and 5% environmental. Once you understand the environmental aspect, all you need is access to quality genetics.

It's a weed. It flourishes in an amazingly wide environmental spectrum.

Everything but the last part is false. Genetics are like half of it. Growing it correctly makes a huge difference. A fair amount of the bad pot that is sold is good weed grown poorly.

/I haven't smoked in forever - it's been since like Thursday. Ugh

You must have missed the first sentence. You know, where I said "do the research"

If people are growing sub-par weed, it's laziness or greed. My money is on greed.

Again, if you are willing to do the research needed, and have access to decent genetics, anyone can grow high quality weed.


Bolded what is killing whatever argument your are trying to make. If you only are putting 5% effort into your environment, then I can't see you coming close to reaching full yield potential.

/yes, your comment was only about potency
/still a very sill number

 
D_Evans45 2009-07-19 02:02:15 PM  
Also, growing good cannabis is way more than just 5% environmental.

Some strains will need hardly any attention to flourish, other strains are finicky and difficult to grow, most need real attention to produce tot heir fullest extent.

I had a couple Thai bushes that I was stoked to grow, Thai being my favorite variety. Turns out, the outdoor climate in southern California is nothing like the outdoor climate in Thailand, and my plants reflected it with the weak airy nugs in the end. And as a toker will know, Thai genetics are among the most revered anywhere. Turns out to grow Thai weed properly anywhere else in the world, you have to grow indoors and perfectly mimic the light cycle in SE Asia.

I've been playing Kush genetics with other NorCal powerhouses since I was a kid, and it is easy to produce subpar weed with excellent genetics if you aren't paying attention.

Genetics is a huge factor, and for most strains, so is environment. Waaay more than 5%.

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-19 02:02:34 PM  
Rainstar: LittleSmitty: SnakeLee: LittleSmitty: Anyone willing to do the research (and assume the inherent risk of getting busted) can grow high quality weed.

Potency is 95% genetics and 5% environmental. Once you understand the environmental aspect, all you need is access to quality genetics.

It's a weed. It flourishes in an amazingly wide environmental spectrum.

Everything but the last part is false. Genetics are like half of it. Growing it correctly makes a huge difference. A fair amount of the bad pot that is sold is good weed grown poorly.

/I haven't smoked in forever - it's been since like Thursday. Ugh

You must have missed the first sentence. You know, where I said "do the research"

If people are growing sub-par weed, it's laziness or greed. My money is on greed.

Again, if you are willing to do the research needed, and have access to decent genetics, anyone can grow high quality weed.

Bolded what is killing whatever argument your are trying to make. If you only are putting 5% effort into your environment, then I can't see you coming close to reaching full yield potential.

/yes, your comment was only about potency
/still a very sill number


Quality and quantity are two completely different things. Most folks who are concerned with quality aren't interested in quantity. If quantity is the issue, then someone is in it for the profit. Anyone that wants to grow quality can as long as you are willing to understand the environmental stuff. If you understand it, the effort is minimal.

How 'bout this? If you know what you are doing, it ain't hard to do well. A little education goes a long way.

 
SwiftFox [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 02:05:26 PM  
I was going to challenge Ender's until I got to revitalized downtown Oakland

 
Oh_Enough_Already 2009-07-19 02:11:30 PM  
D_Evans45: I deliver premium pot to people's doorsteps, and have since I harvested my first plants 1t 19.

It's fun too, all kinds of crazy shiat starts when your customers invite you in. The other day we we're taking beer bongs and getting stoned with the pizza guy, who was fu king ridiculous at Gears of War 2. We ended up in the backyard throwing each other around (my buddy trains Judo), farkin little pizza guy was strong.

Girls are addicted to my weed too, it's like a pussy coupon. I got a couple girls good like that, where all I gotta do is bring over some weed.

/Always on time
//Blow NYC delivery out of the water


Clearly you must be stoned.

 
Roger Arseways 2009-07-19 02:13:16 PM  
I don't know how I ever scored weed before I got the magic card... it's great, you go to the store and buy from a dude behind a counter instead of some schmuck on Hollywood Blvd. There was a good article in LA Weekly (pops) about how the LA City Council's gross incompetence caused this city to turn into New Amsterdam.

 
navanax 2009-07-19 02:16:37 PM  
www.themovieblog.com

Are you sure it's a birthmark, man? Because sometimes that 'Nam grass will do weird things to your face, too.

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-19 02:20:23 PM  
D_Evans45: Also, growing good cannabis is way more than just 5% environmental.

Some strains will need hardly any attention to flourish, other strains are finicky and difficult to grow, most need real attention to produce tot heir fullest extent.

I had a couple Thai bushes that I was stoked to grow, Thai being my favorite variety. Turns out, the outdoor climate in southern California is nothing like the outdoor climate in Thailand, and my plants reflected it with the weak airy nugs in the end. And as a toker will know, Thai genetics are among the most revered anywhere. Turns out to grow Thai weed properly anywhere else in the world, you have to grow indoors and perfectly mimic the light cycle in SE Asia.

I've been playing Kush genetics with other NorCal powerhouses since I was a kid, and it is easy to produce subpar weed with excellent genetics if you aren't paying attention.

Genetics is a huge factor, and for most strains, so is environment. Waaay more than 5%.


I guess it took a f*cking rocket scientist to produce this. After all, a person of average intelligence can't possibly understand how to control the environment well enough to grow a weed.

i238.photobucket.com

 
D_Evans45 2009-07-19 02:21:57 PM  
Oh_Enough_Already - Clearly you must be stoned.


Why yes I am, but my statement stands regardless.

My weed is much better, I don't charge for delivery, and I am faster and always on time.

There are poor souls paying upwards of $70 an of Sour Diesel all day out there (Why do the NYC heads think Sour Diesel is so good anyway,o high duration whatsoever). I'll be supplying quarters and half ounces of Purple Kush for $100 and $180, they would go for $140 and $250 easily out there. Fu king weak.

 
Plinky 2009-07-19 02:22:41 PM  
After watching potheads try for years to simply avoid being arrested, I'm kinda thinking it's time they fought back. But, being stoned, how well could they possibly fight anything short of overexertion, right? YOU'VE WON AGAIN, GRAVITY.

/high, I'm good, are yew good tew?

 
D_Evans45 2009-07-19 02:23:55 PM  
LittleSmitty - I guess it took a f*cking rocket scientist to produce this. After all, a person of average intelligence can't possibly understand how to control the environment well enough to grow a weed.

Wow, way to put words in my mouth.

Environment plays way more of a role than 5%, end of story.

 
Plinky 2009-07-19 02:35:04 PM  
LittleSmitty: I guess it took a f*cking rocket scientist to produce this. After all, a person of average intelligence can't possibly understand how to control the environment well enough to grow a weed.

It honestly doesn't, but to make good stuff? Takes specific light and dark intervals, nutrients, and honestly it's quite genetic. You might get decent stuff from a crap parent, but you'll usually get wonderful stuff from a good plant. Anyway, it'll grow in pretty much any area; you're right that the name is apt. But smokers want fat, sticky buds covered in trichomes. That takes focus and a whore of a lightbill. As I understand it.

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-19 02:37:58 PM  
D_Evans45: LittleSmitty - I guess it took a f*cking rocket scientist to produce this. After all, a person of average intelligence can't possibly understand how to control the environment well enough to grow a weed.

Wow, way to put words in my mouth.

Environment plays way more of a role than 5%, end of story.


We are going to have to agree that we disagree on the % of effort involved. Maybe some folks have the knack, and some folks have to put in more effort. Stable temp, stable PH, proper nutrients. Not a lot of effort if you do the proper due diligence. Controlling the environment isn't hard, you just need to understand what environment is needed.

 
grundlepunch 2009-07-19 02:40:10 PM  
^Medical Marijuana Patient in L.A.; delivery services have been going on for quite some time now which started in New York City.

www.ajnag.com - website my roommate started here in Southern California
Check it out!

 
darkvstar 2009-07-19 02:55:34 PM  
the legislators in CA who are talking legal pot are talking about a tax of $50 an ounce, which seems to be counterintuitive. This would just encourage the blackmarket. We need an economist to go up to Sacramento and teach supply/demand. legalize it. make the tax $5 to $10 and ounce. register the growers and then sit back and rake in the dough

 
D_Evans45 2009-07-19 03:06:51 PM  
LittleSmitty - We are going to have to agree that we disagree on the % of effort involved. Maybe some folks have the knack, and some folks have to put in more effort. Stable temp, stable PH, proper nutrients. Not a lot of effort if you do the proper due diligence. Controlling the environment isn't hard, you just need to understand what environment is needed.


Also true. If you got it, you got it, though there are plenty of strains that can throw curveballs to even the most greenthumb veterans.

I still say (respectfully) that 5% is an understatement. No it does not take a rocket scientist to grow good weed, however, not just any Average Joe can take most strains to full potential, even armed with awesome genetics.

Your lady in the pic is beautiful by the way, what strain is that?

 
Mob-Doc 2009-07-19 03:08:16 PM  
darkvstar: the legislators in CA who are talking legal pot are talking about a tax of $50 an ounce, which seems to be counterintuitive. This would just encourage the blackmarket. We need an economist to go up to Sacramento and teach supply/demand. legalize it. make the tax $5 to $10 and ounce. register the growers and then sit back and rake in the dough

$50 an ounce tax, but the price per ounce is going to drop by at least that much since there's no danger of going to prison for growing or distributing it.
/Imagine $50 ounces with $50 taxes, still cheaper than it is now.

 
headfreckle [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-19 03:12:42 PM  
I love the fact that I grew up in SF. My mom took me to her "club" when I turned 18, before any prop 215 was even in the works. I have watched the evolution of cannabis culture, as it became a legitimate commercial enterprise.
Just the other day in my cannabis club of choice...

A call from Texas: "Yeah, I emailed my resume to your facility, and I'd like to speak to someone in the HR department in regards to any counter positions that are open.."
Pot Club "Um, I think you may have the wrong idea here....We don't have departments here. We have owners, and we have workers ( bud jockeys.) We have no CEO, CFO, Controller, or Customer Service Department We're not the Walmart of Weed."

There's only about twenty actual shops in San Francisco, as they no longer offer "permits" for any additional "clubs" However, there is a plethora of delivery services, as the regulation for delivery services is much more relaxed.

/Amsterdam was a bit of a let-down, having had that type of experience at home for the last 10 years..
/ N. Cal strains are either comparable or Better than many of the Dutch strains I've tried.

 
D_Evans45 2009-07-19 03:16:12 PM  
headfreckle - Amsterdam was a bit of a let-down, having had that type of experience at home for the last 10 years..
/ N. Cal strains are either comparable or Better than many of the Dutch strains I've tried.



My little brother came back from Amsterdam telling me the same thing, he couldn't wait to pack up some good old Humboldt grown Kush when he got home.

He also said some of the hash they offered at the coffee shops wasn't as potent as some of our buds. That just sucks.

/Is quite an awesome scene down here in CA

 
Roger Arseways 2009-07-19 03:24:02 PM  
headfreckle: There's only about twenty actual shops in San Francisco, as they no longer offer "permits" for any additional "clubs" However, there is a plethora of delivery services, as the regulation for delivery services is much more relaxed.

Now here's a question for you. I have my paperwork from an LA doctor, could I use a dispensary in SF if I were up there visiting? In other words, would it be a big hassle to show my LA paperwork or is it all the same?

 
headfreckle [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-19 03:37:46 PM  
Roger Arseways: headfreckle: There's only about twenty actual shops in San Francisco, as they no longer offer "permits" for any additional "clubs" However, there is a plethora of delivery services, as the regulation for delivery services is much more relaxed.

Now here's a question for you. I have my paperwork from an LA doctor, could I use a dispensary in SF if I were up there visiting? In other words, would it be a big hassle to show my LA paperwork or is it all the same?


It will depend entirely on the dispensary. Some dispensaries accept ONLY cards that have a picture ID. They won't accept Dr's paperwork alone, as they don't consider themselves in the business of verifying prescriptions. Here in the city, you'd take your prescription (from whatever doctor) and register it with the State of California Department of Public Health (who verifies your script and provides an ID card!). That particular card is valid statewide, and is accepted at every dispensary I'm aware of. Medicann is another that is widely accepted. I know there are a few dispensaries that will accept prescriptions alone, but they are a dying breed.

The dispensaries that remain open, are often the ones with the most strict rules. Jeapardizing their permit is the last thing they want to do.

 
Roger Arseways 2009-07-19 03:53:22 PM  
headfreckle: Medicann is another that is widely accepted. I know there are a few dispensaries that will accept prescriptions alone, but they are a dying breed.

The dispensaries that remain open, are often the ones with the most strict rules. Jeapardizing their permit is the last thing they want to do.


I don't want a photo ID. Verification is routine down here in LA, but most of the dispensaries aren't worried about losing their permits since there's basically no regulation in place to begin with. I have about a half dozen dispensaries within a mile radius of where I live which is nice for choice but I'd be surprised if half of them are left within 2 years. the farce is starting to be exposed here and I'm not sure what direction it'll take going forward.

good to know about how things go in SF though.

 
jigger 2009-07-19 04:10:13 PM  
PapermonkeyExpress: OHHELLNO! Smoking pot to treat seasonal allergies????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Whatever.

Cue the Fark Pot BrigadeTM to chime in with their pseudoscience supporting the treatment.


I have horrible allergies. I wouldn't call them seasonal. They are just there all the time. If I have a particularly bad attack (and they can be incapacitating) I can take a single toke, not get high or anything, but within 10 minutes, my allergies are cleared up enough for me to actually do things.

 
MasterAdkins [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 04:16:53 PM  
Hopefully, in my lifetime.

 
D_Evans45 2009-07-19 04:18:09 PM  
Reasoned discourse doesn't reach people like that, jigger, your post fell on deaf ears.

We had some guy in a recent thread saying it was "physically impossible" to treat asthma with cannabis.

Add a +1 to the ignore list, it is quite a useful function.

 
Excen 2009-07-19 04:56:29 PM  
I've been to Amsterdam, smoked the best Sensei had to offer and the midgrade from a couple of different houses, and I can say concretely that midgrade is midgrade is midgrade. Since I haven't smoked the "Why do they call them fingers when they never fing?" from So-Cal, I can't really compare, but there's nothing like the sparklingly clear high from a good premium strain. There's no durr-mush-head stoner 'tard (until the day after, but I digress) and they have different flavors grown into the green.

Once it's legalized, within a decade we won't recognize the plant as we know it today.

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-19 04:58:03 PM  
D_Evans45: LittleSmitty - We are going to have to agree that we disagree on the % of effort involved. Maybe some folks have the knack, and some folks have to put in more effort. Stable temp, stable PH, proper nutrients. Not a lot of effort if you do the proper due diligence. Controlling the environment isn't hard, you just need to understand what environment is needed.


Also true. If you got it, you got it, though there are plenty of strains that can throw curveballs to even the most greenthumb veterans.

I still say (respectfully) that 5% is an understatement. No it does not take a rocket scientist to grow good weed, however, not just any Average Joe can take most strains to full potential, even armed with awesome genetics.

Your lady in the pic is beautiful by the way, what strain is that?


Hey man, we are on the same team ;)

I'll even give you that 5% is probably an understatement. I guess it depends on ones definition of effort. I find it astonishingly simple.

That little gem was Hashplant x C99. The mom was Hashplant (Seedsman) and the dad was an F2 C99 from original Grimm Bros. stock. She yielded up 7 dry oz. It was like getting whacked with a hammer. More than one person had to go take a nap after a sample. A real 2 hitter quitter.

 
Dr_Gats 2009-07-19 05:07:00 PM  
i'm getting a kick out of these replies, cuz I go down the street for my dealer. And alaska strains kick ass.

/Not a fan of AK47, but god bless MTF

 
D_Evans45 2009-07-19 05:14:12 PM  
LittleSmitty - That little gem was Hashplant x C99. The mom was Hashplant (Seedsman) and the dad was an F2 C99 from original Grimm Bros. stock. She yielded up 7 dry oz. It was like getting whacked with a hammer. More than one person had to go take a nap after a sample. A real 2 hitter quitter.

Beautiful. Hashplant is a favorite, and original Bros Grimm stock must've been eceptional, bet that strain was nice.

Are you down to exchange some genetics maybe? I've got my hands on some good shiat, looks like you're bringing good gear too. I have access to plenty of killer strains and "clone onlys" that are pretty exclusive, wouldn't mind seeing what another Fark grower is bringing. I even have hybrids I made myself.

E-mail is my fark screen name @ hotmail.com, put something about "Fark" in the subject if you're interested..

 
D_Evans45 2009-07-19 05:16:36 PM  
Dr_Gats

Had any Yukon Gold? Alaskan strain as well, stonier, stronger aroma, better taste, better overall then the Matanuska IMO. Although the Matanuska is definitely no slouch, I've had a lot of proper MTF in my day.

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-19 05:29:50 PM  
D_Evans45: LittleSmitty - That little gem was Hashplant x C99. The mom was Hashplant (Seedsman) and the dad was an F2 C99 from original Grimm Bros. stock. She yielded up 7 dry oz. It was like getting whacked with a hammer. More than one person had to go take a nap after a sample. A real 2 hitter quitter.

Beautiful. Hashplant is a favorite, and original Bros Grimm stock must've been eceptional, bet that strain was nice.

Are you down to exchange some genetics maybe? I've got my hands on some good shiat, looks like you're bringing good gear too. I have access to plenty of killer strains and "clone onlys" that are pretty exclusive, wouldn't mind seeing what another Fark grower is bringing. I even have hybrids I made myself.

E-mail is my fark screen name @ hotmail.com, put something about "Fark" in the subject if you're interested..


Let me rummage through my collection and see what I've got that may be of interest. I'll hit you back soon

 
Dr_Gats 2009-07-19 05:36:40 PM  
D_Evans45: Dr_Gats

Had any Yukon Gold? Alaskan strain as well, stonier, stronger aroma, better taste, better overall then the Matanuska IMO. Although the Matanuska is definitely no slouch, I've had a lot of proper MTF in my day.


yes, yukon gold is...well....gold. :S

 
jehovahs witness protection [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-19 06:12:45 PM  
Mandapants: fuzzwell: If I could legally get some nice pot, I would smoke it.

It's been 20 years since I had any.

Same here. Waiting eagerly for legalization. Will buy ASAP.

Husband will be pissed -- he's a "Friend of Bill". Will have to see if the marriage survives. Apparently, I'm not allowed a choice.

/make the bulk of the income


How YOU doin

 
oogmar 2009-07-19 07:08:15 PM  
D_Evans45: Also, growing good cannabis is way more than just 5% environmental.

Some strains will need hardly any attention to flourish, other strains are finicky and difficult to grow, most need real attention to produce tot heir fullest extent.

I had a couple Thai bushes that I was stoked to grow, Thai being my favorite variety. Turns out, the outdoor climate in southern California is nothing like the outdoor climate in Thailand, and my plants reflected it with the weak airy nugs in the end. And as a toker will know, Thai genetics are among the most revered anywhere. Turns out to grow Thai weed properly anywhere else in the world, you have to grow indoors and perfectly mimic the light cycle in SE Asia.

I've been playing Kush genetics with other NorCal powerhouses since I was a kid, and it is easy to produce subpar weed with excellent genetics if you aren't paying attention.

Genetics is a huge factor, and for most strains, so is environment. Waaay more than 5%.


This is true. All of the growers I know love the plants like children, granted, hundreds of children, and treat them like that. I have a friend who has Thai bushes like you're talking about and one of the most sophisticated light systems, humidifier systems, and uses all organic fertilizers. They're getting huge (even for Thai).shiat is awesome. Labor smokes free and takes some along.

I don't smoke much, maybe a hit here and there, but the boyfriend loves his pot and over the years I've learned good from bad. PNW has some good shiat.

 
TallyGirl 2009-07-19 07:26:49 PM  
Wow...if you could get the pizza guy and the dope guy together, you'd never have to leave the house.


Florida sucks, and so does our pot.

 
paloma [TotalFark] 2009-07-19 07:37:21 PM  
this sounds like vancouver. at my university, you'd see a well dressed person carrying a briefcase through first year residences at least once a week...she was a pot dealer. shrooms as well.

 
thistime 2009-07-20 02:40:02 AM  
i went to the doctor here is san diego and got the card.

safe to say it's now pretty much legal. Yeah the guy selling it calls his customers 'patients' and refers to it as 'medicine' but ultimately it is an over the counter simple experience.

The prices are a tad higher at retail but they do give price cuts for quantity purchases. I can still call the different guys I used to get it from but their stuff varies so much I would just as soon pay the extra 10 or 15 and get it from a place thats consistent and there.not only that if I meet someone like I did in the old days I still have to wait for his sorry ass to get off work or make it to the subway parking lot where the uncomfortable deal takes place. there's the 'how ya been' and small talk. that scene sucks.

Its awesome I dont miss texas at all. I cant imagine the police state feeling in the rest of the USA anymore and I really do appreciate that it is coming around.

people talk about legalization.. it's already here

 
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