obligatorio

No, it was Zombie Reagan, he's back to his ante-dead tricks.

Zombie Castro can go eat a brain for all I care.


He also probably supported Obama's condemnation of the expulsion of the Honduras dictator, I mean president.

Bocanegra: Zombie Castro can go eat a brain for all I care.

Luckily he's not limited to you lest he starve

brainiac-dumdum: Luckily he's not limited to you lest he starve

Whatever, it probably is Bush's fault.

brainiac-dumdum: Luckily he's not limited to you lest he starve

Nice

brainiac-dumdum: Bocanegra: Zombie Castro can go eat a brain for all I care.

Luckily he's not limited to you lest he starve

Heh, the FDA recommends more than 8 brain cells per day.

brainiac-dumdum: Bocanegra: Zombie Castro can go eat a brain for all I care.

Luckily he's not limited to you lest he starve

Please. Everyone knows zombies don't have working digestive systems. It's a key part of what makes them such phenomenal (and poorly used) horror devices.

brainiac-dumdum: Luckily he's not limited to you lest he starve

Too bad for him that Obamabots don't have brains either :(

Bocanegra: brainiac-dumdum: Luckily he's not limited to you lest he starve

Too bad for him that Obamabots don't have brains either :(

You can't "oh snap" yer own comment, it has to be bestowed by another.

The asshat deserved to go. He wasn't following their Constitution and was following in the Castro/Chavez way of thinking, trying to extend his term.

Big Pine III, anyone?
I and II were in support of the Contras, III could be.... oh wait.
Obama!
Never mind.

brainiac-dumdum: You can't "oh snap" yer own comment

I just did. Suck it, libtard.

Smart Ass: The asshat deserved to go. He wasn't following their Constitution and was following in the Castro/Chavez way of thinking, trying to extend his term.

True, but the country needs a protocol beyond something that resembles the town sheriff dumping a trouble off at the county line.

The use of the military in the transition of power is not a good precedent to set.

Bocanegra: I just did. Suck it, libtard.

Truly a wit. Oscar Wilde has nothing on you.

brainiac-dumdum: The use of the military in the transition of power is not a good precedent to set.

What would you suggest? That they sit down and talk about how they "feel" about an unconstitutional 3rd term/dictatorship?

Bocanegra: brainiac-dumdum: The use of the military in the transition of power is not a good precedent to set.

What would you suggest? That they sit down and talk about how they "feel" about an unconstitutional 3rd term/dictatorship?

Yes, because that is the only other option available.

Absurd! The United States would never do such a thing!

brainiac-dumdum: Yes, because that is the only other option available.

Until I hear you put forth any good ideas, you can shut the fark up and let sovereign nations do what they want, just like Joe Biden says!

Bocanegra: brainiac-dumdum: Yes, because that is the only other option available.

let sovereign nations do what they want, just like Joe Biden says!

obviously? Why would I think otherwise?

brainiac-dumdum: obviously?

brainiac-dumdum: the country needs a protocol beyond something that resembles the town sheriff dumping a trouble off at the county line

Again, let sovereign nations do what they want.

They surely don't "need" anything, particularly in regard to your advice.

Bocanegra: They surely don't "need" anything, particularly in regard to your advice.

Bocanegra: Bocanegra: They surely don't "need" anything, particularly in regard to your advice.

your comments have the humor of Gallagher, and your "oh snaps" have the legitimacy of Mugabe

I never saw a fark thread devolve into "I know you are but what am I?" so fast in all my life.

Get a few beers in you guys, and you revert to a room full of middle-school boys. When are you gonna start farting on each other?

Bocanegra=tgot



didn't take too long to figure that one out

Bocanegra:

Again, let sovereign nations do what they want.

They surely don't "need" anything, particularly in regard to your advice.

Just handouts from the rest of the world to enrich their ruling class. Fine. They are doing without aid now.

Now all the Honduras trolls get can get in line and repeat every single totally discredited point about the coup. I'll just post a link to my story refuting them all.

"Honduras Supreme Court: It Was "Common Knowledge" That Zelaya Was No Longer President" ^

I believe I've covered every point there throughly except for the idea that there could only be one reason that Zelaya pushed the poll -- to get himself reelected. The reason they keep nattering about this is because it's the only basis on which he could be removed from power. Despite this, the Supreme Court never mentioned Article 239 in its decision. I wonder why?

As I do mention, the Honduras constitution has been modified 165 times in 22 different years. On further research, however, I found out that the reasons for calling a constituent assembly are far more serious than reelection (which can't be modified anyway). Zelaya was aiming at broadening democracy in Honduras by bringing into question issues of criminal prosecution, land tenure, military immunity and the relationship between the presidency and Congress, among others.

See "What Advocates Hoped to Change in the Honduran Constitution" ^

An interesting statement posted by Honduran indigenous groups, dated July 1, calls for the restoration of the Zelaya government. It includes as its last clause

Jamás claudicaremos a nuestra lucha histórica por una reforma a la constitución política de nuestra patria, en donde se reconozca el Estado multicultural y multilingüe en Honduras; los derechos particulares de nuestros pueblos; por una democracia participativa e incluyente; al consentimiento libre, previo e informado; al reconocimiento y defensa legitima de nuestros territorios y recursos naturales; a la libre determinación de nuestros pueblos; entre otros, así, como lo establecen diversos Tratados, Convenios y Declaraciones internacionales, principalmente el Convenio 169 de la OIT y la Declaración de la Naciones Unidas sobre Derechos de los Pueblos Indígenas.

We will never back down in our historic struggle for a reform of the political constitution of our country, in which will be recognized a multicultural and multilingual State in Honduras; the specific rights of our peoples; a participatory and inclusive democracy; free, prior and informed consent; the recognition and legitimate defense of our territories and natural resources; the free determination of our peoples; among others, as are established in numerous treaties, agreements, and international declarations, principally ILO Conventionubiannd the Declaration of the UN concerning the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.

The points listed echo several made by Rodolfo Pastor Fasquelle in his editorial in El Tiempo discussing what proponents of constitutional reform saw as important potential outcomes.

ILO 169 of the UN concerns "indigenous and tribal peoples" and their rights. One of the more unexpected things happening in Honduras over the past 20 years has been the public visibility of such minority groups, and the increasing voice they have had in political action. ILO 169 challenges signatory countries, including Honduras, which ratified it March 28, 1995. ILO 169 calls for specific treatment to be accorded to indigenous peoples in recognition of their status as original inhabitants and as minorities whose cultures are often most threatened by nationalism and development. As Pastor Fasquelle pointed out, the present Honduran constitution does not conform with this and other similar international agreements.

Since all of these modifications can be carried out within the current constitution, they could not be used as evidence of some kind of crime on his part. In fact, there's really not much basis for any of the accusations of criminal acts.

You know Fidel's days are numbered. He is hallucinating. Everyone knows that we are now in full-on blame Obama mode.

Winktologist: Whatever, it probably is Bush's fault.

Everything else is, isn't it?

Bocanegra: Again, let sovereign nations do what they want.

I agree with that. And I would still agree that we should stay out of it even were it a Marxist coup. Although I doubt Chavez and Castro and much of the chattering class on both sides would be arguing the same point of view they are now.

I hadreally ad gas last night. Can I blame Bush for that?

/Yep worked in a Bush Fart joke.
//Kevin Smith might be proud

Bocanegra: Zombie Castro can go eat a brain for all I care.

He also probably supported Obama's condemnation of the expulsion of the Honduras dictator, I mean president.

He not only supported it, he (along with Hugo Chavez) are threatening to invade Honduras and "restore democracy". I wonder what Obama will do when that happens...

I blame Monroe.

globalwarmingpraiser: I hadreally ad gas last night. Can I blame Bush for that?

/Yep worked in a Bush Fart joke.
//Kevin Smith might be proud

You were farting advertisements?

brainiac-dumdum: Smart Ass: The asshat deserved to go. He wasn't following their Constitution and was following in the Castro/Chavez way of thinking, trying to extend his term.

True, but the country needs a protocol beyond something that resembles the town sheriff dumping a trouble off at the county line.

The use of the military in the transition of power is not a good precedent to set.

Your position has never been the US policy in South America, strangely enough.

The_Man_On_The_Phone: Bocanegra=tgot



didn't take too long to figure that one out

I don't know... it used to take tgot more than just one "oh snap" to become fully unhinged.

Also BN makes me laugh more :D

Wow, news travels slow in Cuba!

The_Man_On_The_Phone: Bocanegra=tgot

Planterz: I don't know... it used to take tgot more than just one "oh snap" to become fully unhinged.

WTF?

Dancin_In_Anson: WTF?

the_gospel_of_thomas

He was much fun, from the beginning of an argument when it was at its most pertinent to the wee hours at the end, when it devolved into semantics.

Planterz: the_gospel_of_thomas

I know exactly who you are talking about. Why even bother bringing up someone who hasn't been around in a couple of years?

mike0023: He not only supported it, he (along with Hugo Chavez) are threatening to invade Honduras and "restore democracy".

When and where were those statements made?

Obama inherited Honduran Coups...

Or something like that.

//meh

Dancin_In_Anson: Planterz: the_gospel_of_thomas

I know exactly who you are talking about. Why even bother bringing up someone who hasn't been around in a couple of years?

I honestly don't care if it troubles you.

Planterz: I honestly don't care if it troubles you.

Troubles me? Surely you jest.

holiday_inn_in_cambodia: obligatorio

That has to be the most amazing thing I've ever seen, ever.

"It's obvious that Yankee handiwork does not increase the possibilities for peace but does exactly the opposite."

+1 Castro

(yeah I'm agreeing with Fidel)

Also don't get why Secretary of State or the current president doesn't support the ousting of this guy. Maybe they like it when leaders try to change the constitution without the support of the people.


Can we visit Havana now? Classic cars, cigars and baseball... what's not to like

Smart Ass: The asshat deserved to go. He wasn't following their Constitution and was following in the Castro/Chavez way of thinking, trying to extend his term.

Big Pine III, anyone?
I and II were in support of the Contras, III could be.... oh wait.
Obama!
Never mind.

right, cuz asking for unlimited terms makes you a Tyrannical dictator. Man do I feel bad for me and my poor Canadian brethren under the 3-term dictatorship of Jean Chrétien. ...just like those commi bastards Chavez and Castro! how dare the people be allowed to keep in power whoever they chose.

The ousted President of Honduras was from the Liberal Party and replaced by a member of the Liberal Party. I'm sure Bush was completely involved in this.



"It was a bunch of pissed off Liberals, what are you, retarded?"

jules_siegel: mike0023: He not only supported it, he (along with Hugo Chavez) are threatening to invade Honduras and "restore democracy".

When and where were those statements made?

And by whom? Castro's too comatose to do any serious invading, and Raul wouldn't dare let his generals have that kind of power.

Cuba and Venezuela have navies?