IXI Jim IXI: Will find a way in

haha, thanks. that's exactly what I was thinking. Black and Tan.

Dr. Poison: Average looking people have no idea what we're like. We don't sit around talking about you, so why do you do it to us? If it bothers you, there are plenty of places you can visit where there are no people like us - Mexico, China, and Poland for example. Or maybe a quick visit to a plastic surgeon might improve your mood? A little make-up doesn't hurt either. And get yourself some nicer shoes for a change. Maybe fix up your hair a bit, lose some weight and have your teeth whitened.

Awesome!

Dr. Poison: Where did you get that dress, it's awful, and those shoes and that coat, jeeeeez!

Fixed that for ya.

quietbs: Helloooooo Ladies!

Is that John C. Reilly in the powder blue suit on the right?

/"Hard, walk hard, down life's rocky road..."

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker:
I am married to a skinny hot girl who makes six looks like a stick figures and I still clicked your profile for pics

FTFY

Oh_Enough_Already: I wonder what the plumbing is like?

I've heard from several plumbers about needing to replace drain lines in sorrority houses because all the stomach acid from their incessant puking actually ate away the metal . . . .

On the next Mythbusters...

dead_dangler: This is only fair. Fat, ugly people have Wal-Mart and Total Fark accounts.

Yeah! This! Wait...what?

Don't everyone go and get their panties in a bind, this will regulate itself shortly just like everything else in the world. A fire will catch and Lord knows 150 models will all burn up trying to pull the fire escape door open.

PC LOAD LETTER: Models wear makeup well, can pose and walk and work with photographers. Most of the folks on a America's Next Top Model are plain with "meh" bodies with a few noteable exceptions (including Tyra). Strippers and Porn Stars get my vote for "if I was at a party full of girls, what kind of girls would they be
the girls on america's next top model are supposed to be beautiful to women...which means very very thin. strippers and porn stars appeal to men, so need big boobs and a more average weight. i think both types can be very pretty. it's weird though, that most of the university girls i know would rather have the very very thin look, which doesn't appeal to men as much, when it's men they're going for. i don't quite understand it.

paloma: PC LOAD LETTER: Models wear makeup well, can pose and walk and work with photographers. Most of the folks on a America's Next Top Model are plain with "meh" bodies with a few noteable exceptions (including Tyra). Strippers and Porn Stars get my vote for "if I was at a party full of girls, what kind of girls would they be
the girls on america's next top model are supposed to be beautiful to women...which means very very thin. strippers and porn stars appeal to men, so need big boobs and a more average weight. i think both types can be very pretty. it's weird though, that most of the university girls i know would rather have the very very thin look, which doesn't appeal to men as much, when it's men they're going for. i don't quite understand it.

Well, I think they're going for the ultra thin "fashion model" look because if they fall short of it, they're still between "fashion model" and "porn star".

If they slut it up and go for the porn star look, other women will hate them.

ju66l3r: The Model Lounge.

Not to be confused with the Model Cafe in Allston (Boston).

Trust me.

The Model is awesome!

/Loves dive bars

Orange Mocha Frappachinos!

paloma: the it's weird though, that most of the university girls i know would rather have the very very thin look, which doesn't appeal to men as much, when it's men they're going for. i don't quite understand it.

Men aren't too picky, but women will tear each other apart. They end up listening to the loudest voices rather than the insightful ones.

Now I finally have a place to relax

Mr. Slippyfist

Had to GIS Adrianna Lima.

/very nice.
//slashy

Who will buy them the booze and coke?

I'm about a size 0 so I'm sure I'd fit right in.

Some of the "models" my girlfriend worked with awhile back weren't actually even all that hot. My girl was prettier than all of them, they were either cute but bone skinny with big tits, or sorta ugly with bombshell body. I thought it was pretty funny when she told me they were models later.

Models aint shiat but hoes and tricks, too.

quietbs: Helloooooo Ladies!

The look on C's face says "Don't worry, fellas. I got this one..."

Is it just me or does the Model lounge look like a dump?

Guess they are to good to even be around the general population. The very people who made their shallow careers and existence possible.

I did not think anyone of them looked all that gorgeous.

Without the professional makeup and photoshopping of their shoots they are pretty and above average in beauty but nowhere near what they look like in print it seems they think they are far more valuable to society then they really are.

Giving them their 'own' place to go is more a favor to the general population. IMO

Oh_Enough_Already: I wonder what the plumbing is like?

I've heard from several plumbers about needing to replace drain lines in sorrority houses because all the stomach acid from their incessant puking actually ate away the metal . . . .

that's such horse shiat.

APPROVES
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shamanwest: I'd crash it if

was there.

Otherwise, meh.

/mmm
//molly...

Oh, there are always exceptions

/mmm
//Milla...

Vash's Apprentice: Oh, there are always exceptions

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Because, like... by the zero-sum assumption of human traits, y'know, all models are like... really shallow and unintelligent, right? Oh my gawd, ammirite?

Some of us modeled to put ourselves through college and ended up with degrees in computer science and electrical engineering. The author and anyone who prescribes to the generic notion that human traits operate on a zero-sum system can DIAF.

Why is that when someone makes a snarky comment that "fat people are lazy," all holy hell breaks loose and the character of the poster is instantly assassinated? But when someone makes an equally inane comment (let alone a published article!) that implies "models are all stupid," people enthusiastically pile on the approval?

I admit to always looking at gorgor's links, even though I know I will be sorry.

jaerik: Because, like... by the zero-sum assumption of human traits, y'know, all models are like... really shallow and unintelligent, right? Oh my gawd, ammirite?

Some of us modeled to put ourselves through college and ended up with degrees in computer science and electrical engineering. The author and anyone who prescribes to the generic notion that human traits operate on a zero-sum system can DIAF.

Why is that when someone makes a snarky comment that "fat people are lazy," all holy hell breaks loose and the character of the poster is instantly assassinated? But when someone makes an equally inane comment (let alone a published article!) that implies "models are all stupid," people enthusiastically pile on the approval?

Because nobody envies the fat people. And I mean nobody.

The puke smell must be something to be experienced.

House: "Gorgeous women do not go to medical school. Unless they're as damaged as they are beautiful."

Greg... FTW

jaerik: But when someone makes an equally inane comment (let alone a published article!) that implies "models are all stupid," people enthusiastically pile on the approval?

Because you don't need a Ph.D. in fashion to be a successful model: you just need to be tall and thin.

Remember, models can have a very short shelf life; some drop out of college or high school to pursue a career based solely on how they look.

sugahboy: Because nobody envies the fat people. And I mean nobody.

Better make that "nobody with an internet connection envies fat people".

Coyote Doyenne: PC LOAD LETTER: Models wear makeup well, can pose and walk and work with photographers. Most of the folks on a America's Next Top Model are plain with "meh" bodies with a few noteable exceptions (including Tyra). Strippers and Porn Stars get my vote for "if I was at a party full of girls, what kind of girls would they be?"

PC, on behalf of all of us Porn Stars, we'd love to have you at the next party!

/fashion models hate me
//I pose nekkid and make more money
///hand me a sammich

How YOU doin'?

Galileo's Daughter: jaerik: But when someone makes an equally inane comment (let alone a published article!) that implies "models are all stupid," people enthusiastically pile on the approval?

Because you don't need a Ph.D. in fashion to be a successful model: you just need to be tall and thin.

Remember, models can have a very short shelf life; some drop out of college or high school to pursue a career based solely on how they look.

Hardly. A certain (extremely small) subset of models (runway, high fashion) have to be tall and thin. The rest of us have to work our asses off under very strict regimens -- sometimes for many years -- to get and maintain exactly whatever look the agency is trying to market this week. The ones who are not only genetically ideal enough to land a modeling job and land the roughly 1% of available gigs that don't require any extra work to match spec, are a vanishingly small percentage of the industry. I have never met one one of those mythical creatures.

To assume that say... a fitness model, or an underwear model, or even the models on otherwise innocuous aisle markers at a Target somewhere, are just genetically "lucky" and aren't spending the equivalent of 40+ hours/week trying to get and maintain the look their bosses demand, just demonstrates how clueless and petty the accusatory party is.

I'm just annoyed at the shocking double standard: why making inferences about a person's lifestyle, personality, or mental capacities based on looks is completely socially acceptable if they're models, but not if they're at the opposite end of the spectrum.

Like I said, I don't do it anywhere. It was how I put myself through college. But I'm continually shocked how code or other engineering feats I pull off are retroactively downgraded or viewed with higher suspicion once someone finds out I used to model. I've had bosses say to my face, in public: "You know, I was very hesitant to hire you at first, because I was convinced you couldn't be very intelligent. Glad I was wrong!" And rather than reacting with awkwardness or shock at the faux pas, everyone within earshot laughs approvingly.

Maybe being constantly defending oneself from constant snark and perpetual underestimation is why TFA's club was set up in the first place.

Wow, grammar fail. "Anymore," and scratch that "being." Sorry, it's Friday and I'm tired.

Hey as long as it keeps the retards out of my fountain, I'm ok with it.
/you can decide which side they belong on

JesseL: sugahboy: Because nobody envies the fat people. And I mean nobody.

Better make that "nobody with an internet connection envies fat people".

Fair enough, but I imagine they don't really care about what models are doing either.

Dr. Poison: Average looking people have no idea what we're like. We don't sit around talking about you, so why do you do it to us? If it bothers you, there are plenty of places you can visit where there are no people like us - Mexico, China, and Poland for example. Or maybe a quick visit to a plastic surgeon might improve your mood? A little make-up doesn't hurt either. And get yourself some nicer shoes for a change. Maybe fix up your hair a bit, lose some weight and have your teeth whitened.


Fark that. I got sick of obsessing over not looking perfect. I've decided I'm attractive enough. Don't agree? Whatever.Some of the best people I've ever met weren't much in the looks department. If a small percentage of people wants to be obssesivly shallowing by strapping the blinders on and only seeing whats on the surface, have at it.

jaerik: jaerik: Hardly. A certain (extremely small) subset of models (runway, high fashion) have to be tall and thin. The rest of us have to work our asses off under very strict regimens -- sometimes for many years -- to get and maintain exactly whatever look the agency is trying to market this week.

Right. And again, this does not require a Ph.D.

The ones who are not only genetically ideal enough to land a modeling job and land the roughly 1% of available gigs that don't require any extra work to match spec, are a vanishingly small percentage of the industry. I have never met one one of those mythical creatures.

I'm not sure what you're referring to here: supermodels or body part models (like hand models for hand creams, etc)? Either way, it doesn't require intelligence or further education.

To assume that say... a fitness model, or an underwear model, or even the models on otherwise innocuous aisle markers at a Target somewhere, are just genetically "lucky" and aren't spending the equivalent of 40+ hours/week trying to get and maintain the look their bosses demand, just demonstrates how clueless and petty the accusatory party is.

Getting and maintaining the look the bosses demand does not require a doctoral thesis, which is my point. It might require getting to the gym regularly.


I'm just annoyed at the shocking double standard: why making inferences about a person's lifestyle, personality, or mental capacities based on looks is completely socially acceptable if they're models, but not if they're at the opposite end of the spectrum.


Let's face it: how many intelligent models can you name? How about models with advanced degrees? I can think of only Christy Turlington, who has a business degree (?) and her own company that makes yoga wear.


Like I said, I don't do it anywhere. It was how I put myself through college. But I'm continually shocked how code or other engineering feats I pull off are retroactively downgraded or viewed with higher suspicion once someone finds out I used to model. I've had bosses say to my face, in public: "You know, I was very hesitant to hire you at first, because I was convinced you couldn't be very intelligent. Glad I was wrong!" And rather than reacting with awkwardness or shock at the faux pas, everyone within earshot laughs approvingly.


You're right: there is a double standard. It's because modeling is a field that does not require higher education; it requires good genes and regular gym workouts.
Maybe being constantly defending oneself from constant snark and perpetual underestimation is why TFA's club was set up in the first place.

Wendy's Chili
There's been a models-only lounge for years. It's called "my bedroom".

Yeah, but this is with real people, not just posters.

you_idiot: Now I finally have a place to relax

After you've drank up the Elbow Room and rolled down Bernal Hill in a barrel.

/your name, it burns

Oh, a lounge for scrawny whores. Great.

They won't need a health department permit, only places that serve food need those.

andrew131: How is this different than any other high end club out there?

Becuase it's a basement of a low-rent burger joint where the proprietor is dating a model and is baldly trying to create a buzz about his shiate hovel by having her and a couple of friend pose for the media and pretend to eat pastrami before they head to the privy for a good upchuck.

I had a friend who used to bang the occasional model. He worked in some bullshiat media relations compay doing nothing but pretending to be important. Basically what people on "The Hills" do.

He was a pretty good looking dude and was very funny, so he pulled model ass all the time. After a night of drinking I divulged my jealously. He basically said the novelty of banging models wears off extremely quickly. Most are used to guys kissing their asses and spending money on them, and aren't any better in the sack than your average college girl.

Now, I suppose it's one of things things I'd rather tire of myself, but I'll take his word for it.

What is interesting about being attractive is how differently the world treats you. The "halo" effect. You don't have to develop a winning personality to get attention or relationships, because these are handed to you through little or no effort. I remember when I used to be attractive and I wished I wasn't, so that people would stop talking about me. You also tend to have lower self esteem because it is likely that your self esteem becomes based on your attractiveness.

I mean, I'm fat and ugly now, but I can still remember those days. I actually prefer being this way, because you get treated like a person and not a body.

I was doing a image search for "model's lounge" and thought I'd share this photo. It's better than what I'd imagined.

quietbs: Helloooooo Ladies!

That stuff needs to come back. I'd be fashionable again.

Retort: tchau: doesn't phase me.

There are things in life I will never get being an asian guy

- Womans Wednesday Discounts for Car
- getting to join the ku klux klan (this would interesting)
- This model thing (well maybe, I'm a pro photogrpaher so they may let me in)
- and a bunch of exclusive stuff

oh well, c'est la vie that's life.

You can probably add "fully occupying a female" to that list.

Yeah your mom did require an extra finger and a wrist.

:)

jaerik: But when someone makes an equally inane comment (let alone a published article!) that implies "models are all stupid," people enthusiastically pile on the approval?

Because most fat people are at least intelligent enough to know that they are fat, even if they deny it in public.
Most models on the other hand... the ones I have known here in southern cali couldn't win a battle of wits with a cinder block.

There are exceptions of course, but what usually happens when a person gets whatever they want in this life because their parents have money or they hit the genetic "beauty" lottery is that they don't bother to develop their minds or their personalities. Why should they do that? It's too much like work, and when you have to work at something it has more value than when it is handed to you.