I know someone who I suspect of doing that.

She wanted a new car, but her husband argued that they couldn't afford it. She burned all her "how to have a good marriage" books in the kitchen sink, then drove the car around in the front yard, smashing it into every tree. Then her husband told her she had to drive it that way, all smashed up. A couple weeks later they went on vacation, leaving the smashed car behind. While they were gone, someone just happened to steal it. The cops found it burned to a crisp in the middle of a field a few miles away. Nothing else was taken, and the house wasn't broken into. Just the crappy car. Hmmmm.

I've wanted to torch one of my cars because I hated it, but you get far more money selling it for scrap.

I had a roommate in Idaho, circa 1977, who hated her 1969 GTO so much that she put a stick of dynamite in each of the four wheel wells and tried to blow it up.

About 30 feet away from our house.

Fortunately, the dynamite didn't go off. I hear that she was successful later, using better dynamite and doing it way out in a farmer's field.

Waste of a cool car, though.

Then there's the kid who set his on fire "simply because he hated the car."

Perhaps he wanted something more Reliant.

His sister?

SpinStopper: I had a roommate in Idaho, circa 1977, who hated her 1969 GTO so much that she put a stick of dynamite in each of the four wheel wells and tried to blow it up.

About 30 feet away from our house.

Fortunately, the dynamite didn't go off. I hear that she was successful later, using better dynamite and doing it way out in a farmer's field.

Waste of a cool car, though.

Someone should beat the shiat out of her for that.

Sweet justice, stay not thy hand

Was it a Chevy Vega?

What a '92 BMW might look like:


/Meh. I don't blame him.

mryoop789: I know someone who I suspect of doing that.

She wanted a new car, but her husband argued that they couldn't afford it. She burned all her "how to have a good marriage" books in the kitchen sink, then drove the car around in the front yard, smashing it into every tree. Then her husband told her she had to drive it that way, all smashed up. A couple weeks later they went on vacation, leaving the smashed car behind. While they were gone, someone just happened to steal it. The cops found it burned to a crisp in the middle of a field a few miles away. Nothing else was taken, and the house wasn't broken into. Just the crappy car. Hmmmm.

Just tell your wife if she wants a new car she can buy one herself.

I understand the reckless endangerment charge but is it arson if it's against your own property?

If he was torching it to try and claim the insurance, would it be a different charge?

/knows there are lawyers (and faux-lawyers) on fark who'll answer

I'd like to donate my '96 Chrysler Concord to mythbusters.

In the 60s, my dad worked with a principal or superintendent who bought a brand new GM car. I think it was a Cadillac. He set out on a trip, and the brand new car broke down. He beat the hell out of it with the tire iron and started walking. A tiny bit of an impulse control problem.

phlegmmo

Perhaps he wanted something more Reliant.


A K-Car? A nice Reliant automobile?

"That's may Dad's shootin car. Two more payments and it's ours"

mryoop789: She wanted a new car, but her husband argued that they couldn't afford it. She burned all her "how to have a good marriage" books in the kitchen sink

that is my favourite part of your story.

"My husband won't buy me a new car, this marriage is ruined!"

Hauptmann: I understand the reckless endangerment charge but is it arson if it's against your own property?

If he was torching it to try and claim the insurance, would it be a different charge?

/knows there are lawyers (and faux-lawyers) on fark who'll answer

that'd probably be insurance fraud if he were trying to claim insurance after torching his own car. Idk about arson against your own property, though i'm sure if someone tried to set their house on fire it'd be considered arson if most of the house is owned by the bank. I guess it depends who owns the title of the vehicle. Something tells me this 18 year old doesn't.

LittleSmitty: "That's may Dad's shootin car. Two more payments and it's ours"

A friend of mine dated a girl whose dad, forbidden to have liquor in the house, stored it in a 1973 Thunderbird in the yard. He called it "the bar".

Ah, the South.

My buddy wanted to get out of a Ford Ranger he bought back in the early 90s. Tried to talk me into helping him burn it up on a tank trail on Ft. Stewart.

Wasn't having any part of them.

see what owning a chevy will do to you?

Sin_City_Superhero: What a '92 BMW might look like:


/Meh. I don't blame him.

What's wrong with it?

I had a car once that I considered setting on fire. Paid for, I held the title, just no place to set it off.

Ant: Sin_City_Superhero: What a '92 BMW might look like:


/Meh. I don't blame him.

What's wrong with it?

It's better than he deserves, for sure. Aside from the color, I have no objections to the car.

canyoneer: Was it a Chevy Vega?

RTFA

The charges include arson and reckless endangerment.

How the hell do you manage an arson charge for burning your own farking property? It said nothing about insurance fraud, reporting it as a crime to the police, or any other unlawful intent. Or is that the "throwaway" charge they plan to scare him with so they can "negotiate" by so generously offering to drop the charge in exchange for a guilty plea on the endangerment charge?

I could see the endangerment charge sticking since it was so close to the apartment. Then you fine him for illegal burning within the city limits and the clean-up.

I had a Buick that used to catch fire every few miles and I'd have to stop and throw slush on the engine to put it out (was winter, thakfully). Thinking back on it, I should have let that POS burn.

Pave_the_Planet: SpinStopper: I had a roommate in Idaho, circa 1977, who hated her 1969 GTO so much that she put a stick of dynamite in each of the four wheel wells and tried to blow it up.

About 30 feet away from our house.

Fortunately, the dynamite didn't go off. I hear that she was successful later, using better dynamite and doing it way out in a farmer's field.

Waste of a cool car, though.

Someone should beat the shiat out of her for that.

She was a US Marine. You go first ;)

Pave_the_Planet: SpinStopper: I had a roommate in Idaho, circa 1977, who hated her 1969 GTO so much that she put a stick of dynamite in each of the four wheel wells and tried to blow it up.

About 30 feet away from our house.

Fortunately, the dynamite didn't go off. I hear that she was successful later, using better dynamite and doing it way out in a farmer's field.

Waste of a cool car, though.

Someone should beat the shiat out of her for that.

You ain't kidding.

I was hoping it was a Chevy Cavalier. Worst piece of shiat I've ever driven.

I had a Ford EA Falcon that I would have taken great pleasure in setting fire to. Bought it second hand, owned it for about 2 years, and it was only on the road for maybe 6 months of that time. It was roadworthy for even less than that.
As it was I sold it for $50. Would have been worth that and then some for the pure pleasure I would have gotten out of seeing it burn though.

Like this only I wouldn't have bothered with a club-lock in mine, I would have loved the damn thing to have been stolen.

idrow: Pave_the_Planet: SpinStopper: I had a roommate in Idaho, circa 1977, who hated her 1969 GTO so much that she put a stick of dynamite in each of the four wheel wells and tried to blow it up.

About 30 feet away from our house.

Fortunately, the dynamite didn't go off. I hear that she was successful later, using better dynamite and doing it way out in a farmer's field.

Waste of a cool car, though.

Someone should beat the shiat out of her for that.

You ain't kidding.

Better yet, it was a GTO Judge. Dammit. The real thing.

If any of you folks lived in Coeur d'Alene in 1977, you probably saw the car.

Lamune_Baba: The charges include arson and reckless endangerment.

How the hell do you manage an arson charge for burning your own farking property? It said nothing about insurance fraud, reporting it as a crime to the police, or any other unlawful intent. Or is that the "throwaway" charge they plan to scare him with so they can "negotiate" by so generously offering to drop the charge in exchange for a guilty plea on the endangerment charge?

I could see the endangerment charge sticking since it was so close to the apartment. Then you fine him for illegal burning within the city limits and the clean-up.

Easy. If he owes money on the car, it ain't his property!
If he owns it, you can't just burn shiat down in a city. There are rules, you know.

mryoop789: I know someone who I suspect of doing that.

She wanted a new car, but her husband argued that they couldn't afford it. She burned all her "how to have a good marriage" books in the kitchen sink, then drove the car around in the front yard, smashing it into every tree. Then her husband told her she had to drive it that way, all smashed up. A couple weeks later they went on vacation, leaving the smashed car behind. While they were gone, someone just happened to steal it. The cops found it burned to a crisp in the middle of a field a few miles away. Nothing else was taken, and the house wasn't broken into. Just the crappy car. Hmmmm.

You know how I know this lady is batshiat crazy?

SpinStopper: idrow: Pave_the_Planet: SpinStopper: I had a roommate in Idaho, circa 1977, who hated her 1969 GTO so much that she put a stick of dynamite in each of the four wheel wells and tried to blow it up.

About 30 feet away from our house.

Fortunately, the dynamite didn't go off. I hear that she was successful later, using better dynamite and doing it way out in a farmer's field.

Waste of a cool car, though.

Someone should beat the shiat out of her for that.

You ain't kidding.

Better yet, it was a GTO Judge. Dammit. The real thing.

If any of you folks lived in Coeur d'Alene in 1977, you probably saw the car.

Hopefully she hurts badly now knowing what one of those could bring, money-wise...

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: I was hoping it was a Chevy Cavalier. Worst piece of shiat I've ever driven.

hahahahaha.

My sister had one, sold it to some 16 year old for $250 bucks, after informing him that it leaked every major fluid except brake fluid. I've seen a guy in town here who has spinners and flames down the side, I burst out laughing in my car.

A guy told me this story: Back when he was drinking, he decided he wanted a new car. Someone told him if he cut the fuel line just so, the fuel will spray on to the engine block, start a fire and it will look like an accident.

So he nicked the fuel line and drove around drinking beer. When he ran out of beer and the car was still intact, he just pulled over, opened the hood and started throwing matches at the engine. Eventually, it caught fire and he walked down to a pay phone. He called his insurance company and told them his car was on fire and he wanted a new car. The agent replied "I'm sorry. You have a no fault policy. We don't replace your car."

Was a Ford Fiesta and honest to God, it wasn't me.

Some smarter Farker has suggested driving a doomed car around for a while and then parking it in tall grass. The catalytic converter sets the grass on fire and next thing you know, you are down at the autoplex signing away another six years of your life for something that just lost 50% of its value.

Ant: Sin_City_Superhero: What a '92 BMW might look like:


/Meh. I don't blame him.

What's wrong with it?

I'd start with the fact that it's 17 years old.

Ant: Sin_City_Superhero: What a '92 BMW might look like:


/Meh. I don't blame him.

What's wrong with it?

The car is kind of 'blah'. And I imagine that the one in the article is not in nearly as good condition as the one pictured earlier (considering that the car is so shtty that an 18 year old doesn't want it).

SpinStopper: idrow: Pave_the_Planet: SpinStopper: I had a roommate in Idaho, circa 1977, who hated her 1969 GTO so much that she put a stick of dynamite in each of the four wheel wells and tried to blow it up.

About 30 feet away from our house.

Fortunately, the dynamite didn't go off. I hear that she was successful later, using better dynamite and doing it way out in a farmer's field.

Waste of a cool car, though.

Someone should beat the shiat out of her for that.

You ain't kidding.

Better yet, it was a GTO Judge. Dammit. The real thing.

If any of you folks lived in Coeur d'Alene in 1977, you probably saw the car.

I wish you hadn't added that last bit :::wipes away tears:::

I hope she knows what the value of The Judge goes for now and I hope it hurts every time she thinks about it.

Hauptmann: I understand the reckless endangerment charge but is it arson if it's against your own property?

You forget that there is no such thing as property rights.

hockeyfarker: mryoop789: She wanted a new car, but her husband argued that they couldn't afford it. She burned all her "how to have a good marriage" books in the kitchen sink

that is my favourite part of your story.

"My husband won't buy me a new car, this marriage is ruined!"

That's my favorite part, too.

Okay, the crazy lady is my stepmom and the non-car-buying guy is my dad.
Amazingly, they're still married.
It was HILARIOUS watching her drive around town in that crunched up Ford Astro.

If it was a 1997 Ford Contour, then I would've stood beside him and cheered.

Same if you hate your outfit.
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Lamune_Baba: The charges include arson and reckless endangerment.

How the hell do you manage an arson charge for burning your own farking property? It said nothing about insurance fraud, reporting it as a crime to the police, or any other unlawful intent. Or is that the "throwaway" charge they plan to scare him with so they can "negotiate" by so generously offering to drop the charge in exchange for a guilty plea on the endangerment charge?

I could see the endangerment charge sticking since it was so close to the apartment. Then you fine him for illegal burning within the city limits and the clean-up.

Better charge him with plenty. He torched his car 2-1/2' from his apartment building. If he's not safely locked up, his neighbors would likely kill him.

mryoop789: hockeyfarker: mryoop789: She wanted a new car, but her husband argued that they couldn't afford it. She burned all her "how to have a good marriage" books in the kitchen sink

that is my favourite part of your story.

"My husband won't buy me a new car, this marriage is ruined!"

That's my favorite part, too.

Okay, the crazy lady is my stepmom and the non-car-buying guy is my dad.
Amazingly, they're still married.
It was HILARIOUS watching her drive around town in that crunched up Ford Astro.

The Astro is made by Chevy. Aerostar, perhaps?

Sin_City_Superhero

(considering that the car is so shtty that an 18 year old doesn't want it).


Of course - everyone knows that eighteen-year-olds are infallible arbiters of quality and good sense.

boyvoyeur

Holy crap, the kid looks about 13.

I would have done it to my 2001 Grand Am. Would have gotten more satisfaction out of it than the $500.00 trade-in I got because the security system was so utterly flawed that it wouldn't start the engine anymore and eventually fried the computer.

WoW tantrum kid strikes again:
Stephan hates his birthday truck (new window)

I had a 74 Ford Econoline van named Clarence that I was going to burn, but I couldn't find a suitable place.

I loved that van, and a funeral pyre just seemed a more noble sendoff than selling to a junkyard for $100

I haven't set one on fire but I did have a Rambler that would break down every other day or so, one day it decided to stall out at 3 AM and I got so disgusted I signed the title, left it on the dash, took the tags and my junk out of the trunk and left the POS Where it sat.
As far as I know (or care)it is still sitting on the side of Hwy 63 just outside Huntsville, TN

/First thing that came to mind.

My great hate was a 1978 Triumph Spitfire.

Bought it as a Showroom demo with 1400 Kilometers on it.

The final time I got a call from the mechanic giving me the "Bad news" I asked him if he could sell it because I never wanted to see the farking thing again. What a POS.

I took the money and bought my first Kawasaki. Never looked back.

I have a 92 skylark in my driveway right now that I want to use for target practice.

\I wan to see what a (or several) Black Powder 50 caliber bullet(s) will do to it.

what a dumbass. Christine always comes back.

always.

Worse vehicle I had was a 1986 Chevy S-10 4x4. Looked good on the exterior but mechanically a piece of crap. Took $1000 for the trade in on my current car which is the best car I ever owned.

I would have torched the S-10 but didn't want to waste a match on it.

I realized I would rather make monthly payments on a relaible car than spend about the same amount fixing my P.O.S. truck each month. Car is paid off now and I have taken care of it so it runs great and looks great. Even when I get a new one next year I am keeping it and getting newer model of the same car.

Usually the course of action for a car you hate is to find the nearest reservoir and roll it in. Then claim it was stolen. Then six years later there's a drought, and all the "stolen" cars that have collected there over the years start to reappear little by little.

..the fark? I would've swapped him, and my car doesn't even suck. That's a great car he had.

If it'd been a Chrysler Sebring or something I would've understood.

The spoiled little biatch should be forever damned to never own/operate a vehicle again. All I had at that age was my dad's hand-me-down '84 Ranger. It didn't go fast but I loved that thing.

Sin_City_Superhero: What a '92 BMW might look like:

/Meh. I don't blame him.




Also a '92

vodka: Sin_City_Superhero: What a '92 BMW might look like:

/Meh. I don't blame him.

Also a '92

Thats what I was going to say. The drop tops were E30's and the coupes and sedans were E36's. Id take either one.

Sin_City_Superhero: The car is kind of 'blah'. And I imagine that the one in the article is not in nearly as good condition as the one pictured earlier (considering that the car is so shtty that an 18 year old doesn't want it).

18-year-olds nowadays are pretty spoiled. My first car cost something like $300

smoky2010: I have a 92 skylark in my driveway right now that I want to use for target practice.

\I wan to see what a (or several) Black Powder 50 caliber bullet(s) will do to it.

Big holes. We did that exact thing to a '64 Galaxy my friend no longer wanted. Ford brand Swiss cheese!

Englebert Slaptyback: Sin_City_Superhero

(considering that the car is so shtty that an 18 year old doesn't want it).


Of course - everyone knows that eighteen-year-olds are infallible arbiters of quality and good sense.

They have excellent taste. What are you talking about?

Spinstopper

Good work.

I ran my first car into the ground. I farked it up so bad by the time I was done with it, it wouldn't shift out of first (it was an auto lol), would only go about 10 mph, and the catalytic converter caught on fire.

I drove that thing like life was a demolition derby.

Ah, four door Ford Maverick, I loved you. But I hated it, too. Stupid car. Why fix something that was like, what, $500? I just drove for a year until it couldn't drive no more.

Yeah, I was 16 and stupid at the time.

But I didn't set it on fire. It set itself on fire.

Uneven Displacement: Hauptmann: I understand the reckless endangerment charge but is it arson if it's against your own property?

You forget that there is no such thing as property rights.

The government owns a bigger and bigger percent of our "property" through perpetual taxation. I'm surprised they don't charge property tax on things like guitars, computers, books, and underwear. They will have to when they run out of money and are forced -- once more -- to steal it from us.

"OH what's your net worth this year? Please list every single motherfarking thing you 'own' so we can has cut of it, comrade."

mryoop789: I know someone who I suspect of doing that.

She wanted a new car, but her husband argued that they couldn't afford it. She burned all her "how to have a good marriage" books in the kitchen sink, then drove the car around in the front yard, smashing it into every tree. Then her husband told her she had to drive it that way, all smashed up. A couple weeks later they went on vacation, leaving the smashed car behind. While they were gone, someone just happened to steal it. The cops found it burned to a crisp in the middle of a field a few miles away. Nothing else was taken, and the house wasn't broken into. Just the crappy car. Hmmmm.

Somebody should have gotten one hell of a spanking.....

Of course he burned it, he is in New York.

/Why is there no New York tag?

So he finally killed his farking car?

When I read that headline, I thought it said cat, not car.

I have to admit, I was somewhat disappointed when I read it correctly.

Hawnkee: All I had at that age was my dad's hand-me-down '84 Ranger. It didn't go fast but I loved that thing.

I felt the same way about my '81 diesel Rabbit.

Cars I've wanted to burn.

1983 dodge lancer-blue paint with pink primer utter pos put a rod through the oil pan.
1984 jeep cherokee -didn't have to burn it, it liked to burn itself
1998 Acura Integra-every other month another 400 part would break

Ant

They have excellent taste. What are you talking about?


I stand corrected. :-)

You spolied brats... I had to go through high school riding on this:



Up to this day I think that car has to be the second or third ugliest car ever built (the ugliest one being the Pontiac Aztek of course). I wanted to see that Datusn burn just because the way it looked, but it never broke down, ever, and all I had to do was change the oil and the spark plugs every year or so...

SpinStopper: I had a roommate in Idaho, circa 1977, who hated her 1969 GTO so much that she put a stick of dynamite in each of the four wheel wells and tried to blow it up.



OMG, seriously? What was she, a cartoon?

Sin_City_Superhero: /Meh. I don't blame him.

THIS.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks the majority of BMWs not manufactured in the past decade are eyesores boxy pieces of shiat.
Those who dig the car have an obvious case of beerbadge-goggles.

Long may you run.
Long may you run.
Although these changes have come
With your chrome heart shining in the sun
Long may you run.


/with apologies to Mr. Young.

SwallowTheKnife: Those who dig the car have an obvious case of badge-goggles.

FOAD. That's my basic response. I happen to think early-90s Celicas are crappy-looking cars, I think Chevy Avalanches are overly encrusted with he-man plastic, and I really can't stand just about any Lexus styling whatsoever, but lost of people do. Do they have "badge-goggles"? No, they have a different aesthetic.

lots, not lost. SELF-FAIL.

emiliogtz: You spolied brats... I had to go through high school riding on this:



Up to this day I think that car has to be the second or third ugliest car ever built (the ugliest one being the Pontiac Aztek of course). I wanted to see that Datusn burn just because the way it looked, but it never broke down, ever, and all I had to do was change the oil and the spark plugs every year or so...

That ad shows how far we've come. "Whitewall tires make it handsome," and "reclining bucket seats make it luxurious." That's some funny shiat right there- I know that cheap cars back then didn't come with much, but damn. If whitewall tires define style for you, you're farked up. I'm so glad the 70s are gone...

...For the record, when I say "most" I mean...well, most...like the ones seen in the given picture.

Don't come on here posting the outliers because I'll admit there are probably some nice ones.
/For the most part though, they looked like a fugly box.

biggest POS ever

I drove one of these into the ground

I've owned an assortment of craptastic automobiles that I just loathed:

73 Mercury Comet (finally had a head-on collision when someone strayed over the center line...I actually wanted to thank the guy for totalling it, but man, I hurt something fierce after that crash)

76 Chevy Councours (a gussied up Nova that ran like utter shiat)

74 Fiat 128 (bought it new and dumped it just before the 12000 mile warranty gave out - had to have the tranny rebuilt THREE times in the first year)

74 Dodge Dart (lasted 2 days before a wheel fell off as I was driving in downtown Minneapolis)

68 Cutlass (the hole in the trunk leaked exhaust fumes into the passenger compartment)

All but the Fiat were bought as junkers, i.e. purchase price far below $1000 so I guess you get what you pay for (except the Concours which I think I got swindled out of $2500 for in 1978 or 1979)

theorellior: FOAD. That's my basic response. I happen to think early-90s Celicas are crappy-looking cars, I think Chevy Avalanches are overly encrusted with he-man plastic, and I really can't stand just about any Lexus styling whatsoever, but lost of people do. Do they have "badge-goggles"? No, they have a different aesthetic.

I agree with most of your sentiments, especially the FOAD.
However, I like Lexus' ability to offer great luxury with reliability as well. Style wise, not my favourite--but much better than early-1990 BMWs, IMO.

Too bad he didn't set fire to a Chrysalis Motors Highwayman.


BOOM.

heavymetal: Worse vehicle I had was a 1986 Chevy S-10 4x4. Looked good on the exterior but mechanically a piece of crap. Took $1000 for the trade in on my current car which is the best car I ever owned.

I would have torched the S-10 but didn't want to waste a match on it.

I realized I would rather make monthly payments on a relaible car than spend about the same amount fixing my P.O.S. truck each month. Car is paid off now and I have taken care of it so it runs great and looks great. Even when I get a new one next year I am keeping it and getting newer model of the same car.

Change the S-10 to Ford Ranger and that's exactly where I am at.
(1996 Ranger 4X4 p.o.s. traded for a 2001 Accord. still driving the Accord)

I owned a 92/93 Saturn SC2... Great, great car to drive. Great steering and the 5 speed shift was smooth and had a short throw...

Until she started burning oil like an oil well after the gulf war...

All you 91 - 97 Saturn fans... Can I get a witness???

ocelot: I'd like to donate my '96 Chrysler Concord to mythbusters.

I wonder if they'll take the ex-wife's '93 Geo Metro

killiemary: /First thing that came to mind.

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: I was hoping it was a Chevy Cavalier. Worst piece of shiat I've ever driven.

My grandparents had one. You're right. It was a turd.

neomatt: heavymetal: Worse vehicle I had was a 1986 Chevy S-10 4x4. Looked good on the exterior but mechanically a piece of crap. Took $1000 for the trade in on my current car which is the best car I ever owned.

I would have torched the S-10 but didn't want to waste a match on it.

I realized I would rather make monthly payments on a relaible car than spend about the same amount fixing my P.O.S. truck each month. Car is paid off now and I have taken care of it so it runs great and looks great. Even when I get a new one next year I am keeping it and getting newer model of the same car.

Change the S-10 to Ford Ranger and that's exactly where I am at.
(1996 Ranger 4X4 p.o.s. traded for a 2001 Accord. still driving the Accord)

Yeah - something happenned to the Ranger quality-wise after the 1995 model year. I have a 94 with 180,000+ miles on it with no major problems (had to have a couple of minor parts repaired earlier this year; high-side A/C hose and the ICM).

I don't understand the whole "car payment" thing, though; if the payment on a new car is greater than your monthly repair expenditure (within reason), then it is cheaper to get it repaired. If the same part is failing each and every time, then I would look into why and how that part is failing, and see if I could take a new version of that part, plus the failed part, to someone who could re-engineer it (or bodge it) so it won't fail. Sometimes failures of parts happen because other parts that have failed or are failing cause those other parts to fail (ie, bad motor mounts causing shaking of other parts, causing them to fail), in which case you should do an "overhaul" of whatever is needed to bring things back in line.

Unless you have a complete lemon (or a busted frame), in theory it is cheaper to repair/rebuild than it is to buy new (for the same type and size of vehicle)...

The6502Man: I owned a 92/93 Saturn SC2... Great, great car to drive. Great steering and the 5 speed shift was smooth and had a short throw...

Until she started burning oil like an oil well after the gulf war...

All you 91 - 97 Saturn fans... Can I get a witness???

Preach it brother, preach it. My 97 SC2 is starting to stick a little when trying to shift into first gear, but man, I love my car. RIP what Saturn used to be.

twfeline: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: I was hoping it was a Chevy Cavalier. Worst piece of shiat I've ever driven.

I agree wholeheartedly. I used to have a 1998 Chevy Cavalier that was by far the worst car I ever owned. It would frequently stall, sometimes even while driving, and I'd have to coast to a stop on the side of the road. I could never go through a drive-thru window at a fast food place, because if you sat with the engine idling for any longer than a minute or two, it would overheat. The engine also knocked loudly at times, and the cheap, plastic interior would rattle so much, it sounded like it was going to fall apart. The thing spent so much time in the shop that, when I traded it in in 2001, it only had 8,200 miles on the odometer. I figured that, if I was having that much trouble with the car already, what would it be like when the car got older and with more mileage? I traded it for a new Honda Civic (which I still own, no problems at all), and I feel sorry for whoever ultimately ended up with my old Chevy Crapalier.