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(BBC) Obvious Circumcision study cut short   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 623
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Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:49:50 PM  
jigger: You cannot get back your ridged band or the frenulum

glad Ive got my frenulum

now I have to go look up what a frenulum is

// Thanks for the link

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:51:45 PM  
quote from the link kindly supplied by jigger:

It is also described as the prepuce, a technically broader term that also includes the clitoral hood in women, to which the foreskin is embryonically homologous.

.... so why is female circumcision considered bad, but we can lop off the end of a penis and its considered "better for the changing rooms"

 
tempathy 2009-07-17 08:57:46 PM  
www.dropline.net

 
cyberspacedout 2009-07-17 10:14:43 PM  
Slartibartfaster: .... so why is female circumcision considered bad, but we can lop off the end of a penis and its considered "better for the changing rooms"

It's because doctors in this country can't make money from cutting girls. Also that whole "it's illegal" thing.

 
ciocia [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 10:19:49 PM  
Slartibartfaster: quote from the link kindly supplied by jigger:

It is also described as the prepuce, a technically broader term that also includes the clitoral hood in women, to which the foreskin is embryonically homologous.

.... so why is female circumcision considered bad, but we can lop off the end of a penis and its considered "better for the changing rooms"


Because "female circumcision" may involve only the removal of the clitoral hood, but frequently involves a lot more, such as removal of the entire clitoris and part of the labia minor, or infibulation (removing all external genitalia and sewing the vagina nearly shut). If they were doing that to boys, it would have been outlawed a long time ago.

 
Garble 2009-07-17 10:46:17 PM  
CrazyCracka420
there's a difference between snipping off a piece of skin (that serves no purpose) and giving someone implants at birth...

The foreskin does serve a purpose. Several actually. It protects the head of the penis from drying out (the head of an intact penis is as smooth as the inside of someone's lips). During sex it reduces friction while providing more surface area. And it has many many nerve endings identical to the ones most men would never want removed from their current dicks.

I know you're happy with your cock as-is. Most deaf people don't miss music either.

But just because you're happy without a foreskin doesn't mean the foreskin is useless or that you'd be any less happy if did have one.

Nobody in their right mind would get circ'ed as an adult, that doesn't mean that people (like me) don't like being circ'ed...I'm glad my parents did it for me, because there's no way in hell I'd do it as an adult (and I'd wish I was...but ultimately I wouldn't care).

You have no way of knowing that. You like being cut because it's what you're used to. There's no reason to think that if you weren't, you'd be any less happy with how it looked, how it felt or how it worked.

Most of the world is uncut. If your assumptions are true, there should be a ton of men out there who wish they were cut but are too scared to get it done. There isn't any evidence of that being the case.

 
ephed 2009-07-17 11:34:20 PM  
It's like saying that the goggles get int he way of a skier, or the steering wheel is in the way of a cab driver.

foreskin goggles?

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 11:40:45 PM  
Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: I'm pretty cute, pic in profile. But I'm totally straight. If you want to dress up in drag and suck my dick I'm sure I wouldn't mind.

can you spell C-O-N-T-R-A-D-I-C-T-I-I-O-N boys and girls ? I knew you could



Does anyone else find it odd that the two loudest defenders of circumcision began eagerly offering gay sex as soon as they lost the argument? What is that all about, besides changing the subject? A survival tactic?

Maybe circumcision began as a veiled threat from the father. A sort of "I brought you into this world, and I can take you out. Never forget it. Here's a physical reminder you will see several times a day, every time you pee or feel good, the proof that The Father can cut you where you live. Obey the Father or He might cut off the rest of it." No wonder cut guys have castration anxiety.

Anyone also notice that every time these circ threads occur, some cut guys appear to defend their own dicks. They don't realize that it is not about them. Their dick is already ruined. It's about protecting the ones to come from preventable ruination.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-18 12:07:25 AM  
WeenerGord: began eagerly offering gay sex as soon as they lost the argument

There was an argument ?!?
and I lost ?!?
and I offered WHAT ?

can you pass the bong dude, I wanna join your paradigm.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-18 12:08:49 AM  
WeenerGord: defenders of circumcision

oh wait hehehe
not me

whew

I hate it when I wake up and find out I offered something I dont wanna give later.

whew

 
ubertwit 2009-07-18 12:10:12 AM  
re: // straight guys like to discuss dick too, particularly when comparing size, or discussing chopping parts of it off (we like OUR dicks too)

I've never thought about "discussing chopping parts of it off ". Sounds like you caught the ghey.

 
Balchinian 2009-07-18 12:22:27 AM  
Daaaayyuuummmm!

I liked the headline, but didn't think this would turn into a huge thread at all. Once again, Fark throws me a curveball and I swing and miss. Oh well.

/Subby.
//Cut with uncut son.
///I couldn't think of a good enough reason to do it to him.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-18 12:24:34 AM  
Slartibartfaster: WeenerGord: defenders of circumcision
oh wait hehehe, not me. whew. I hate it when I wake up and find out I offered something I dont wanna give later.


Not you. CrazyCracka and Flurchin. I knew I should have removed your name from the reply quotes because somebody might misread it, but wanted to give you credit for spotting Cracka's contradicktion.

 
oogmar 2009-07-18 08:26:25 AM  
Dear cut men: Your dick looks pretty! Congrats! It's easy to keep clean and is what most North American pornography portrays as the ideal. Straight-forward, but robbed of nerves.

Dear uncut men: Your dick isn't that great to look at, but man does it feel better inside of a vagina! Most North American pornos make you an outsider, but your nerve endings are in much better repair and you orgasm more deeply than your cut brothers. Also, things are a bit tougher to clean, but all in all both ends of your sexual deeds are more pleasurable.

The end!

 
r1chard3 2009-07-18 08:45:53 AM  
sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.


Is it OK to just think that uncircumcised penises are goofy looking?

 
Mayhem of the Black Underclass 2009-07-18 09:25:15 AM  
oogmar: Dear cut men: Your dick looks pretty! Congrats! It's easy to keep clean and is what most North American pornography portrays as the ideal. Straight-forward, but robbed of nerves.

Dear uncut men: Your dick isn't that great to look at, but man does it feel better inside of a vagina! Most North American pornos make you an outsider, but your nerve endings are in much better repair and you orgasm more deeply than your cut brothers. Also, things are a bit tougher to clean, but all in all both ends of your sexual deeds are more pleasurable.

The end!


I'm not sure I understand which perspective you are offering. Are you a woman who claims to enjoy sex with uncut men? How many of each type of partner have you had. If you are a woman, how can you report on the "depth" of orgasms of any man.
Are you an uncut man who claims to be having "deeper" orgasms? How can you compare if you haven't been cut.
Are you a cut man who claims that uncut men are having "deeper" orgasms? How can you compare if you've never had sex with your foreskin intact.

 
Joce678 2009-07-18 10:06:24 AM  
MK-Ultra71: I'm waiting for the links to North American hospitals that have banned the practice. Doctors don't seem to have a problem with the practice.

Why would they? They get paid for every one they do!


I for one do not mourn the loss of my foreskin.

so? Deaf people don't miss music, blind people don't miss colors...


I have more pressing matters in my life. YMMV.

Just not quite pressing enough to avoid posting here. Methinks there may be a seed of a doubt in there somewhere.

 
oogmar 2009-07-18 05:09:11 PM  
Mayhem of the Black Underclass: oogmar: Dear cut men: Your dick looks pretty! Congrats! It's easy to keep clean and is what most North American pornography portrays as the ideal. Straight-forward, but robbed of nerves.

Dear uncut men: Your dick isn't that great to look at, but man does it feel better inside of a vagina! Most North American pornos make you an outsider, but your nerve endings are in much better repair and you orgasm more deeply than your cut brothers. Also, things are a bit tougher to clean, but all in all both ends of your sexual deeds are more pleasurable.

The end!

I'm not sure I understand which perspective you are offering. Are you a woman who claims to enjoy sex with uncut men? How many of each type of partner have you had. If you are a woman, how can you report on the "depth" of orgasms of any man.
Are you an uncut man who claims to be having "deeper" orgasms? How can you compare if you haven't been cut.
Are you a cut man who claims that uncut men are having "deeper" orgasms? How can you compare if you've never had sex with your foreskin intact.



I am a woman who enjoys sex period. I've spent fairly equal time with both types in long-term relationships, the long term numbers being three cut men and two uncut men, so my experience has included slightly more cut men than uncut. This doesn't include anybody I haven't had at least a year of sexual contact with, and not the people I had happy, brief sexual relationships with, though they were pretty educational as well. I also have spent a period of time studying sexual health. I don't claim to be an expert, but the experts I've had in my classes (all range of men and women) are in agreement that the extra nerve endings of uncut males do actually lead to the orgasm going "deeper" into the body, making it closer to a full-body reaction than something that happens between the nipples and the knees.

Having taken both cut and uncut men to orgasm on a large number of occasions, and not being an unskilled lover, it's been my observation that uncut men have longer orgasms, have a much wider range of physiological reactions/spasms/contractions than cut men, and are more likely to be multi-orgasmic.

Granted, my control group hasn't been gigantic, but combined with that and the doctorates I've had discussions with about this, I can say pretty confidently that the uncut men have a better go of it sexually.

Though, visually, the cut member is "cleaner" to look at, which in some cases is very pleasing to the eye, and much easier to keep clean. Some uncut men don't always do the best at keeping their guys clean (which is not a pleasant thing to run into), but then, some girls don't do very well with their vaginas, either.

Does that answer your questions?

 
Two Dogs Farking [TotalFark] 2009-07-18 05:37:45 PM  
oogmar: Does that answer your questions?

You sound slutty. And attention-whorey.

 
oogmar 2009-07-18 06:21:03 PM  
Two Dogs Farking: oogmar: Does that answer your questions?

You sound slutty. And attention-whorey.


I answered his question/s. And yeah, the summation of ones entire sex life, spanning over years and years, packed into a few brief sentences does kind of have a magnifying effect on numbers and whatnot. But then, I'm engaged to a wonderful man, so the numbers aren't getting any bigger from here on out.

So... you sound troll-y?

 
ciocia [TotalFark] 2009-07-18 07:27:36 PM  
oogmar: Two Dogs Farking: oogmar: Does that answer your questions?

You sound slutty. And attention-whorey.

I answered his question/s. And yeah, the summation of ones entire sex life, spanning over years and years, packed into a few brief sentences does kind of have a magnifying effect on numbers and whatnot. But then, I'm engaged to a wonderful man, so the numbers aren't getting any bigger from here on out.

So... you sound troll-y envious?


FIFY. An understandable mistake.

 
natas6.0 2009-07-18 09:09:20 PM  
I've heard Dr Drew discuss uncut fellers who injure the foreskin
which he claims makes it tighter.
The explanations goes to the point where the foreskin won't allow the head to come out.
Let alone the stuff you get under it.

Does this have any relevance to the subject?
Or has this thread degraded to 'chicks' telling us that they're great lovers, and guys calling each other ghey?

Except that watching him with great sympathy and loving pity bit,
THAT is exceptionally queer

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-19 01:06:13 AM  
natas6.0: I've heard Dr Drew discuss uncut fellers who injure the foreskin which he claims makes it tighter. The explanations goes to the point where the foreskin won't allow the head to come out.

There is a rare condition called phimosis. It is a little known fact that the foreskin is like steel. It's the only part of the skin that CANNOT be stretched, for example by just by tugging on it a few times a day, maybe with warm water and soap, or lotion. DR. Phil should know about that as he is a HUGE dickhead. Oh wait, you said Dr. Drew. But Dr. Phil is still a HUGE dickhead. Also Dr. Drew is a Jew, and is apparently angry at teh foreskin. He may not know much about it as he had to ask Dane Cook for advice about it.


Except that watching him with great sympathy and loving pity bit, THAT is exceptionally queer

No kidding, that homo was gaggin for it, NTTAWWT.


Oogmar: you go girl. Rock on with your bad self.

 
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