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flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:07:40 PM  
WeenerGord: Flyurchin, sorry, you are not my type. Please be aware of Transference "Transference is a phenomenon in psychoanalysis characterized by unconscious redirection of feelings for one person to another. One definition of transference is "the inappropriate repetition in the present of a relationship that was important in a person's childhood."[1] Another definition is "the redirection of feelings and desires and especially of those unconsciously retained from childhood toward a new object."[2] Still another definition is "a reproduction of emotions relating to repressed experiences, esp[ecially] of childhood, and the substitution of another person ... for the original object of the repressed impulses."[3] Transference was first described by Sigmund Freud, who acknowledged its importance for psychoanalysis for better understanding of the patient's feelings."

Psychoanalysis was actually my field of study (for realz, yay BC)! But thanks for the reminder. Check is in the mail.

Unless this session was pro bono!

/laughter
//applause
///fin

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:08:19 PM  
flyurchin: It's the rare kind of orgasm that followed. One man, out of compassion, stroking the firm cock of another, watching him with great sympathy and loving pity; while the other, with a hurting so great in his soul, finally climaxes. And with it come the great many tears, not only from his throbing member, but pouring from his eyes. Anger, confusion, sadness, no longer repressed and blocked, flowing freely from his body, a body overcome with a unique ecstacy...

that sounds gay

//nttiawwt

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:09:25 PM  
flyurchin: for realz, yay BC

mine was Computer Science, Religious history, and Macroeconomics (3 separate Bachellors)
YA BC !! (Stanley park is a great place to work on your papers)

 
ItsMyOpinion 2009-07-17 04:09:52 PM  
Slartibartfaster:and you base this on the experience you had being uncut ?

No I base this on the fact that neither side has any right to push there view on others. It's a stupid argument. Both sides think that their penis cut / uncut is better and both have the odd exceptions. Very few males (and I mean very few males) who have had their penis circ'ed while babies regret or hate their parents for it.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 04:10:14 PM  
flyurchin: Slartibartfaster: Egalitarian: Egal = appreciator of male anatomy

sorry about the loss of your pussy (read the profile)

Funny, but sad.

Also, I also enjoyed the 13th warrior - can't help it.

Aidan: *munches popcorn* Go on...

It's the rare kind of orgasm that followed. One man, out of compassion, stroking the firm cock of another, watching him with great sympathy and loving pity; while the other, with a hurting so great in his soul, finally climaxes. And with it come the great many tears, not only from his throbing member, but pouring from his eyes. Anger, confusion, sadness, no longer repressed and blocked, flowing freely from his body, a body overcome with a unique ecstacy...


i12.photobucket.com
NTTAWWT.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:11:44 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: It's the rare kind of orgasm that followed. One man, out of compassion, stroking the firm cock of another, watching him with great sympathy and loving pity; while the other, with a hurting so great in his soul, finally climaxes. And with it come the great many tears, not only from his throbing member, but pouring from his eyes. Anger, confusion, sadness, no longer repressed and blocked, flowing freely from his body, a body overcome with a unique ecstacy...

that sounds gay

//nttiawwt


It's healing. Healing! Unless health is the new gay, in which case I'm totally a fag.

Anyone else hurting? Like a paladin - I can solve your problems with a simple laying of hands.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:13:36 PM  
WeenerGord: Mr. Eric

NTTAWWT.


Remember before when I said you didn't raise my blood pressure? Well, my heart's beating like you wouldn't believe because of you now.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:15:31 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: for realz, yay BC

mine was Computer Science, Religious history, and Macroeconomics (3 separate Bachellors)
YA BC !! (Stanley park is a great place to work on your papers)


I've never been there, but I hear many parts of Canada resemble a Jesuit university campus. Here's to us!

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:17:31 PM  
ItsMyOpinion: No I base this on the fact that neither side has any right to push there view on others

I AGREE

Now I would like you to consider not pushing it on others
like... kids
babies
undefended penises

I am pro choice, anti abortion, anti circumcision, and anti lots of stuff (but still pro choice)
You can do what you want to your dick. People who do it to their kids are imposing their choice and prescribing unnecessary surgery to their kids.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:18:31 PM  
flyurchin: I can solve your problems with a simple laying of hands

did I mention that sounds gay ?

again, not that there is anything wrong with that.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 04:18:35 PM  
flyurchin: WeenerGord: Mr. Eric, NTTAWWT.

Remember before when I said you didn't raise my blood pressure? Well, my heart's beating like you wouldn't believe because of you now.



Accept your man love for Eric Estrada. Meanwhile, let's return to the discussion of circumcision, eh? Or is your attempt at misdirection meant to avoid facing it?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:22:01 PM  
WeenerGord: Accept your man love for Eric Estrada

hehehe Mr Estrada is quite funny

great guy, I see him at a few trade shows I go to (always very friendly, humble, and creepily like Chips)

"Hi Im Eric Estrada"

"yea dude, I grew up in the 70s, I know who you are... and how the hell do you look exactly like you look like back then man ?..... no sorry I dont want a timeshare in Alabama, but dude, skincare tips ? wtf ?"

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:22:51 PM  
WeenerGord: flyurchin: WeenerGord: Mr. Eric, NTTAWWT.

Remember before when I said you didn't raise my blood pressure? Well, my heart's beating like you wouldn't believe because of you now.


Accept your man love for Eric Estrada. Meanwhile, let's return to the discussion of circumcision, eh? Or is your attempt at misdirection meant to avoid facing it?


Thanks for keeping me on track.

Have I mentioned how much I hate my cock and how now that I know how evil circumcision is, I think this thing is ugly and shameful.

Someone, quick, I need something that looks like a foreskin that I can use to hide my shame.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:23:26 PM  
flyurchin: Canada resemble a Jesuit university campus

If you wanna talk UBC.... its only jesuit if jesuits were chinese

Had a chinese girlfriend there, my father (an asian conflict asshole baby killer, not that Im bitter) was not impressed and my racially impure choices.

 
Debby7813 2009-07-17 04:25:15 PM  
I'd also like to know (via scientific survey) how women who have been with both circ'ed and uncirc'ed men feel about them. (Women who have only been with one type of man seem to irrationally fear the other type) Also if there is a striking difference in sexual pleasure derived from the types of penii, or alternately if there are differences in sexual adventurism in the man (from her perspective)

Personal experience; 11 cut, one uncut. The uncut was my longest relationship; 18 years. I realize why I prefer cut; uncut (at least the one) is TOO sensitive, no staying power. Also, even though this was a VERY clean man, showering at least once a day, only a few hours after a shower the, shall we say, "ickiness" started to build up again. I don't really care about how it looks, it's more about function and the "ick" factor. On the plus side, the extra skin WAS sort of fun to play with.

I don't have any sons, and won't be having any more children. If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable.

Just my two cents' worth.

Female, BTW.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:25:25 PM  
flyurchin: Someone, quick, I need something that looks like a foreskin that I can use to hide my shame

went looking for a foreskin hat
reduced to dick head

note to self: next time turn on filtering first

www.dymaxionweb.com

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:27:31 PM  
Debby7813: If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable

I hear breast implants are easier earlier on too.

How are your girls going with their imposed unnecessary cosmetic surgery for future sexual attraction ? you did that right ?

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 04:37:00 PM  
Slartibartfaster: Debby7813: If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable

I hear breast implants are easier earlier on too.

How are your girls going with their imposed unnecessary cosmetic surgery for future sexual attraction ? you did that right ?



Yes. You should also have insisted on surgical hymen removal at 8 days, to reduce trauma at first intercourse, and surgical removal of the clitoral hood, to cure frigidity, and to achieve equality with circumcised males. Surgical removal of labial lips is also recommended, because, you know, even right after a shower, it starts to get cheesy down there.

The important thing is to sexually mutilate babies. There is really no excuse not to. Everyone is doing it. It's really stupid to argue against it, because nobody remembers and nobody cares.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:37:45 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Someone, quick, I need something that looks like a foreskin that I can use to hide my shame

went looking for a foreskin hat
reduced to dick head

note to self: next time turn on filtering first


Nice.

Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Canada resemble a Jesuit university campus

If you wanna talk UBC.... its only jesuit if jesuits were chinese

Had a chinese girlfriend there, my father (an asian conflict asshole baby killer, not that Im bitter) was not impressed and my racially impure choices.


Not nice.

 
Garble 2009-07-17 04:38:32 PM  
Slartibartfaster
// show me a male that does not publicly claim to love his dick, and Ill send him to websites I dont like browsing (thats my story and Im sticking to it)

FTFY
/someone's gotta be sending money to all these "male enhancement" emails

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 04:40:25 PM  
Debby7813: I'd also like to know (via scientific survey) how women who have been with both circ'ed and uncirc'ed men feel about them. (Women who have only been with one type of man seem to irrationally fear the other type) Also if there is a striking difference in sexual pleasure derived from the types of penii, or alternately if there are differences in sexual adventurism in the man (from her perspective)

Personal experience; 11 cut, one uncut. The uncut was my longest relationship; 18 years. I realize why I prefer cut; uncut (at least the one) is TOO sensitive, no staying power. Also, even though this was a VERY clean man, showering at least once a day, only a few hours after a shower the, shall we say, "ickiness" started to build up again. I don't really care about how it looks, it's more about function and the "ick" factor. On the plus side, the extra skin WAS sort of fun to play with.

I don't have any sons, and won't be having any more children. If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable.

Just my two cents' worth.

Female, BTW.


Yeah I think being de-sensitized (by being circed) is a good thing. I prob wouldn't suggest it for females though, as they can't be sensitive enough down there (from my experience). And getting the clit hood removed, would desensitize it further.

I still think if you were uncut you could overcome it easily though, and still think it's mainly an aesthetic issue, but I'd still circ my kid.

Slarti...there's a difference between snipping off a piece of skin (that serves no purpose) and giving someone implants at birth...

Nobody in their right mind would get circ'ed as an adult, that doesn't mean that people (like me) don't like being circ'ed...I'm glad my parents did it for me, because there's no way in hell I'd do it as an adult (and I'd wish I was...but ultimately I wouldn't care).

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 04:42:00 PM  
WeenerGord: Slartibartfaster: Debby7813: If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable

I hear breast implants are easier earlier on too.

How are your girls going with their imposed unnecessary cosmetic surgery for future sexual attraction ? you did that right ?


Yes. You should also have insisted on surgical hymen removal at 8 days, to reduce trauma at first intercourse, and surgical removal of the clitoral hood, to cure frigidity, and to achieve equality with circumcised males. Surgical removal of labial lips is also recommended, because, you know, even right after a shower, it starts to get cheesy down there.

The important thing is to sexually mutilate babies. There is really no excuse not to. Everyone is doing it. It's really stupid to argue against it, because nobody remembers and nobody cares.


Are you angry men wouldn't sleep with you because of your uncut penis? You sound very angry, while 99% of the other people here recognize it doesn't really matter, if you have a penis, you're probably gonna like it.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:42:38 PM  
Garble: /someone's gotta be sending money to all these "male enhancement" emails

those are the ones that dont like it

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:44:59 PM  
Ladies and gentlemen, I've enjoyed talking with you about my penis, just as much as I've enjoyed hearing about yours or what you think about penises.

Gotta run!

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:44:59 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Slarti...there's a difference between snipping off a piece of skin (that serves no purpose)

mine actually serves a purpose

... I quite like it

its only removed for cosmetic reasons now days (unless you live in a desert and cannot wash)

so if it is cosmetic.... implants are just as "does not cause any harm just makes them feel better"

My point (although framed badly perhaps I can do this better this time) is: Cosmetic surgery to make your child look sexually attractive later is a bit ... ya know... wrong.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 04:47:56 PM  
Implants do cause harm, and you couldn't put in implants for a child because their body still grows around the boobs...

And circumcision is only cosmetic...and I can totally see your points about cosmetic surgery for children, I guess I'm just okay with circumcision because I had it done. I know that's not a good justification, and is having double standards, but we can't be rational all the time.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:48:51 PM  
flyurchin: Not nice.

note sure what you found not nice

But NZ was in asia to protect the brunei oil fields (fighting was in Borneo, my father was SAS NZ) I grew up in Singapore.

yea it wasnt nice

note to others: if you are going to be a father, dont let your government put you on a 9 year effidrine prescription to make you a better soldier, it wont help your family. (didnt help his first, and from what I have heard his second generation is not much happier with him). Fortunately I had a great adopted dad after that (Mom remarried when she stopped him beating her)

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:53:21 PM  
CrazyCracka420: if you have a penis, you're probably gonna like it

yeah

now can we as a culture quit chopping bits off it ?

That would be super... mmm kay ?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:54:29 PM  
CrazyCracka420: but we can't be rational all the time

Agreed

but just before prescribing unnecessary cosmetic surgery to our children.... that MIGHT be one of those times where we kinda might wanna be right ?

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 04:56:48 PM  
CrazyCracka420: WeenerGord: Slartibartfaster: Debby7813: If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable
I hear breast implants are easier earlier on too.
How are your girls going with their imposed unnecessary cosmetic surgery for future sexual attraction ? you did that right ?

Yes. You should also have insisted on surgical hymen removal at 8 days, to reduce trauma at first intercourse, and surgical removal of the clitoral hood, to cure frigidity, and to achieve equality with circumcised males. Surgical removal of labial lips is also recommended, because, you know, even right after a shower, it starts to get cheesy down there.
The important thing is to sexually mutilate babies. There is really no excuse not to. Everyone is doing it. It's really stupid to argue against it, because nobody remembers and nobody cares.

Are you angry men wouldn't sleep with you because of your uncut penis? You sound very angry, while 99% of the other people here recognize it doesn't really matter, if you have a penis, you're probably gonna like it.



Thanks for the offer, but you are not my type either. You sound ugly.

Remember, you didn't have to be circumcised, and most of the world is not. Based on a whim of your parents, you were mutilated. It was unnecessary, and you will never get it back. Just admit it's wrong to mutilate babies. You can still accept yourself as you are. Well, you kind of have to accept it, don't you?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 05:01:53 PM  
WeenerGord: and most of the world is not

and most of the world is not

I thought the big font worked, thought I might add to it

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 05:06:29 PM  
WeenerGord: CrazyCracka420: WeenerGord: Slartibartfaster: Debby7813: If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable
I hear breast implants are easier earlier on too.
How are your girls going with their imposed unnecessary cosmetic surgery for future sexual attraction ? you did that right ?

Yes. You should also have insisted on surgical hymen removal at 8 days, to reduce trauma at first intercourse, and surgical removal of the clitoral hood, to cure frigidity, and to achieve equality with circumcised males. Surgical removal of labial lips is also recommended, because, you know, even right after a shower, it starts to get cheesy down there.
The important thing is to sexually mutilate babies. There is really no excuse not to. Everyone is doing it. It's really stupid to argue against it, because nobody remembers and nobody cares.

Are you angry men wouldn't sleep with you because of your uncut penis? You sound very angry, while 99% of the other people here recognize it doesn't really matter, if you have a penis, you're probably gonna like it.


Thanks for the offer, but you are not my type either. You sound ugly.

Remember, you didn't have to be circumcised, and most of the world is not. Based on a whim of your parents, you were mutilated. It was unnecessary, and you will never get it back. Just admit it's wrong to mutilate babies. You can still accept yourself as you are. Well, you kind of have to accept it, don't you?


I'm pretty cute, pic in profile. But I'm totally straight. If you want to dress up in drag and suck my dick I'm sure I wouldn't mind.

But honestly, you sound like you're being more rational in your 2nd paragraph, so I'll bite. I didn't have to be circ'ed, it is unnecessary, but it wasn't on a whim.

Of course I accept myself for who I am, and I try to be naked as much as possible.

I realize most of the world isn't circ'ed, and most women in the US don't give a sh*t if you are or aren't (just as long as you're pounding away like Casey Jones on the railroad tracks). All that rational thought aside, I still like that I'm circ'ed, and I don't see anything wrong with the practice :p It's just a little flap of skin, and becomes normal when you've had it your whole life.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 05:12:14 PM  
images.askmen.com

 
theoriginalslash 2009-07-17 05:12:52 PM  
I know we're almost to 600 comments, so I'm sure others have said something similar, but it bears repeating... FTFA: "Circumcising men who already have HIV does not protect their female partners from the virus, a study in Uganda has found."

Who's the head of the Uganda health service? A witch doctor? What Stone Age denizen thought that cutting off part of the peen keeps the AIDS from leaking out of the peen, or do they think it works like some sort of magic spell? This "study" seems about as necessary as a study that holds people underwater for 10 minutes in order to determine whether or not people can breathe underwater. If this is an example of how public health is administered in African countries, the appalling rates of HIV infection make a lot more sense.

I'm in the "circumcision is not necessary, so generally I'm opposed" camp. If you're circumcised, OK, if you're not, that's OK too.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 05:13:58 PM  
CrazyCracka420, you are ugly. You have an ugly personality. Your dick is mutilated and also ugly. You will never know what you are missing. I pity you too.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 05:20:13 PM  
WeenerGord: CrazyCracka420, you are ugly. You have an ugly personality. Your dick is mutilated and also ugly. You will never know what you are missing. I pity you too.

Ouch! Poor mangled cracka.

 
beelzebubba76 2009-07-17 05:21:06 PM  
The women who love the man jam will do so whether it's cut or not, methinks.

 
MK-Ultra71 2009-07-17 05:33:48 PM  
I'm waiting for the links to North American hospitals that have banned the practice. Doctors don't seem to have a problem with the practice. I for one do not mourn the loss of my foreskin. I have more pressing matters in my life. YMMV.

 
ilikechocolatemilk 2009-07-17 06:28:21 PM  
All this fuss over a little skin is getting way too gay for me.
Bottom line: it gets in the way. I like 'em cut.
/you sound like my ex...

 
sweddjen [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 06:51:46 PM  
No wieners tag? What a waste of an opportunity.

i215.photobucket.com

 
Biness 2009-07-17 07:01:46 PM  
i38.photobucket.com

 
jigger 2009-07-17 08:00:43 PM  
crm114: wyrlss: Surgery? Just do stretches. It'll take a while, but you can stretch it back out. It's kind of cool.

It's still not the same. There are glands and such in the foreskin that are unrecoverable after circumcision.

 
jigger 2009-07-17 08:02:12 PM  
J. Frank Parnell:
We could easily feed the entire planet now. The main reason it's not done is because it would drive market prices down and a starving country is easy to control.


Also, you know what you get when you feed starving people?

More people.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:02:24 PM  
CrazyCracka420: I'm pretty cute, pic in profile. But I'm totally straight. If you want to dress up in drag and suck my dick I'm sure I wouldn't mind.

can you spell C-O-N-T-R-A-D-I-C-T-I-I-O-N boys and girls ? I knew you could (I can just barely)

// no Im not gonna dress in drag, I havnt shaved lately

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:03:15 PM  
jigger: There are glands and such in the foreskin that are unrecoverable after circumcision

[citation needed] and if you have one, Id love to use it in future

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:04:26 PM  
jigger: More people

more people who dont want to kill you

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:06:41 PM  
ilikechocolatemilk: All this fuss over a little skin is getting way too gay for me.
Bottom line: it gets in the way. I like 'em cut


so... you like em cut... and thats not too gay ?

checks profile

oh yer gay... ok carry on then :D hehe

// straight guys like to discuss dick too, particularly when comparing size, or discussing chopping parts of it off (we like OUR dicks too)

 
jigger 2009-07-17 08:15:35 PM  
Slartibartfaster: jigger: There are glands and such in the foreskin that are unrecoverable after circumcision

[citation needed] and if you have one, Id love to use it in future


Link

The outside of the foreskin is like the skin on the shaft of the penis, but the inner foreskin is a mucous membrane like the inside of the eyelid or the mouth.

I don't think when you un-circ the mucous membranes come back. Not sure.

At the end of foreskin, there is a band of tissue called the ridged band, which, according to one study, is rich in nerve endings called Meissner's corpuscles.[2] According to a study by Sorrells et al., the five most sensitive areas of the penis are on the foreskin.

You cannot get back your ridged band or the frenulum (if that got cut too).

 
jigger 2009-07-17 08:16:44 PM  
Slartibartfaster: jigger: More people

more people who dont want to kill you


I guess if they're starving, they won't have much energy to kill anyone.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:48:47 PM  
jigger: I guess if they're starving, they won't have much energy to kill anyone

most people have the ability to get just enough food to have the energy to kill the person who has more food.

Starving countries are farking dangerous (although that might be a good place to test whether circumcision can stop infecting females.... oh wait, they did that.... damn is humanity really that freaking sick ? yea)

 
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