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Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:36:23 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Yeah it would be a very big blow to their egos

Australian joke (at least I was in that country when I heard it)

Ya know why women fake their orgasms ?
They think we care.

// Australian humor is fun, but Im a New Zealander

Link (new window)

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:37:54 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: I think one swift tap to the tip would have both of us recoiling

sure, but a pair of 501s, going commando... I got an extra layer, ya know ?

But... it would be a good test, who wants to referee ? (and who wants to license the footage for kink.com ?)


Hey now, you're the one with the stitch. Over here, my mushroom is unscathed!

/happy head

 
Garble 2009-07-17 02:38:48 PM  
Slartibartfaster
I still dont get the "mine looks better" argument. Mine can look "like" yours

People are ignorant of that fact, so they still make that really stupid argument.

The one I *really* don't get? "It should look like his father's". Just what kind of farked up family photos are you people taking?

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 02:38:53 PM  
Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: Yeah it would be a very big blow to their egos

Australian joke (at least I was in that country when I heard it)

Ya know why women fake their orgasms ?
They think we care.

// Australian humor is fun, but Im a New Zealander

Link (new window)


That is funny, but I'd be disappointed if I couldn't bring a girl to orgasm. I like getting my rocks off, but I love making women cum.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:39:57 PM  
flyurchin: happy head

That stitch dissolved a couple of decades ago
My mushroom is .... well hopefully free of fungii (ok damn Im sorry, but not sorry enough to delete that)

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:40:40 PM  
Garble: Just what kind of farked up family photos are you people taking?

OK hehehe, NOW Im glad my keyboard is waterproofed.

 
oogmar 2009-07-17 02:41:09 PM  
Crewmannumber6: trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

*ahem*......How YOU doin'?


No, there are actually a lot of us. The sex is way better, too. So if the visual on an anteater doesn't quite do it for you like the naked mole-rat cock, at least you know that the sex will be better with the former than the latter.

/foreskin tends to act like a French Tickler.
//I used to be freaked out by the uncut because I had no idea what the fark I was talking about, now I've learned.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:42:11 PM  
CrazyCracka420: That is funny, but I'd be disappointed if I couldn't bring a girl to orgasm. I like getting my rocks off, but I love making women cum.

I'm with you on the women thing, but I still think I'd get pretty f-ing frustrated if I couldn't feel something nice too.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 02:42:42 PM  
CrazyCracka420:
After pumping away for 30-45 minutes and giving them a few "O's" women usually get sore - lube or no lube, and affected guys are no closer to finishing. And it's always a blow to their ego when they can't get you to cum even if they don't express it.


They get the o, the guy obviously cares or feels good enough to put it in and do the work, and it's a blow to their ego when they can keep a guy hard for 45 minutes when he knows he can't cum?

 
vinn01 2009-07-17 02:42:43 PM  
From what I've read, many women will not perform oral on an uncut guy. I can guess many reasons; cleanliness, looks, "mystery folds", etc.

/ Are you uncut guys getting your share?
// Ladies, are you equal in giving with uncut guys?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:43:31 PM  
CrazyCracka420: I like getting my rocks off, but I love making women cum.

mutually connected as far as Im concerned
If I make her cum, I get to get my rocks off again later :-)

Vive la difference

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:43:58 PM  
oogmar: Crewmannumber6: trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

*ahem*......How YOU doin'?

No, there are actually a lot of us. The sex is way better, too. So if the visual on an anteater doesn't quite do it for you like the naked mole-rat cock, at least you know that the sex will be better with the former than the latter.

/foreskin tends to act like a French Tickler.
//I used to be freaked out by the uncut because I had no idea what the fark I was talking about, now I've learned.


Ummmmmmmmmmmm. I have reason to believe that being uncut does not a good lover make. I also have reason to believe that being cut doesn't necessarily make a man not a good farking lay.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:45:50 PM  
vinn01: Are you uncut guys getting your share

Married 15 years... and yep :) (two stereotypes shot down ?)

As far as I know, the older social taboo was that they smell bad. Im told that cut ones smell the same.... if you dont clean em (and she was a slut, god bless her, she would know)

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:46:01 PM  
J. Frank Parnell: We could easily feed the entire planet now. The main reason it's not done is because it would drive market prices down and a starving country is easy to control. Sure, some people like to pretend it's the teeming masses who screwed everything up, and the rich and powerful only ever thought of the greater good, but that's delusional and naive.

I wasn't talking about humans.

 
Masso 2009-07-17 02:46:18 PM  
I learned about circumcision when I was 15 from Bible teacher (was studying at a Christian school). My first thought was ...God wants boy's penis?

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:47:03 PM  
Slartibartfaster: vinn01: Are you uncut guys getting your share

Married 15 years... and yep :) (two stereotypes shot down ?)

As far as I know, the older social taboo was that they smell bad. Im told that cut ones smell the same.... if you dont clean em (and she was a slut, god bless her, she would know)


Both my gf and I love my smell. I think a bad smelling cock is a f-ing curse.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:47:27 PM  
flyurchin: I have reason to believe that being uncut does not a good lover make. I also have reason to believe that being cut doesn't necessarily make a man not a good farking lay.

Hi I'm Captain Jack Harkness, how YOU doin ?

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 02:48:39 PM  
flyurchin:
I, and many other men, have cut cocks, and we're have to pretend that we are golden. Sometimes bad things happen, sometimes life sucks.

There are many complications that can occur with childbirth. Maybe we should make it illegal?


Well, if the baby doesn't come out, they both die. Do you think that if the foreskin isn't amputated the baby boy will die? So it's not the same, except...if more first born sons were murdered by God, there might be fewer pregnancies, so yeah....why not sacrifice your first born male son to prevent any future pregnancies? It's in the Bible, so it's ok. You obviously have a desire to inflict unjustified pain on some innocent. This is likely a result of your early trauma

FTA
Psychological impacts of male circumcision
Perinatal trauma. Circumcision is a form of perinatal (birth) trauma.34 Cansever tested boys before and after circumcision and found that the trauma causes severe disturbance of normal function.5 Taddio and others have documented behavioral changes at six months of age, suggestive of PTSD in circumcised boys.36 Yilmaz et al. have demonstrated PTSD in boys in the phallic period who are undergoing circumcision for phimosis.53 Rhinehart has documented posttraumatic stress disorder resulting from the perinatal trauma of circumcision in middle-aged males.47 substantial evidence that perinatal trauma15,32,44,45,46,48,51,56 and/or deprivation of pleasure7,18 contribute to later aggressive, violent, and/or suicidal behaviour. Anand and Scalzo suggest that early trauma predisposes to altered pain sensitivity, stress disorders, ADD/hyperactivity, and self-destructive disorders.64 Van der Kolk identified a compulsion in traumatized persons to repeat the trauma.17 Goldman reports that the performance of circumcision by a circumcised male doctor may be a reenactment of one's own circumcision trauma.46

Denial of loss. Persons who have lost body parts must grieve their loss.40,41,42,44 The first stage of grief is denial of the loss.24 Fitzgerald and Parkes state that "Anything that seriously impairs sensory or cognitive function is bound to have profound psychological effects, not only on the person who is affected but also on family, friends, workmates, and caregivers."41 The thought of permanent loss of sensory function is so painful that persons deny their loss in order to avoid facing the painful feelings.41 Denial of loss causes a flight from reality. Parkes et al. state that persons in denial may minimize their loss.40,41,42 Circumcision causes the loss of a body part and all of its functions including a drastic loss of erogenous sensory function, so denial of loss is not uncommon in circumcised males. Circumcised males may experience the full range of distress and emotional dysfunction resulting from loss. This frequently results in circumcised fathers adamantly insisting that a son be circumcised.24,28, 56

Fathers are frequently unable to vocalize their feelings. They will say that "I want my son to look like me," even though the child may be different in eye color, hair color, and other aspects. In fact, what the father really may be feeling is, "I don't want a son with an intact penis to remind me of what I have lost."

Effects of denial on medical doctors. Goldman states that some circumcised male medical doctors misuse the medical literature to support, rationalize, and justify their own loss; and to defend the practice of circumcision.46 Denniston reports that doctors "who have been cut themselves may be unable to stop cutting others."28 LeBourdais reports that the likelihood of a baby being circumcised is determined by the circumcision status of the a father; the sex, age, and circumcision status of the physician; amongst other factors. Goldman reports that doctors who are older, male, and circumcised are more likely to condone circumcision.46 Members of medical societies may have emotional issues that may preclude the objective formulation of policy concerning non-therapeutic male circumcision.54
and
Prescott argues that the early genital pain of circumcision "encodes" the brain for later sadomasochistic tendencies, including violent destructive behaviours.18

also

Botched circumcisions kill 33 boys in South Africa

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:48:56 PM  
flyurchin: Both my gf and I love my smell.

Nothing better than that new-cock smell?

 
TMBGfreak 2009-07-17 02:49:08 PM  
CrazyCracka420: IXI Jim IXI: CrazyCracka420: and there won't be any lasting effects, other than a penis that's streamlined for efficient f*cking.

efficient f*cking?

You sound like the Protestants from the Every Sperm is Sacred sketch from Meaning of Life...

It's a joke...I put racing stripes on my penis too. Less wind resistance.


I put a Type R sticker on mine to give it more horsepower and look extarodinary by riced out Asian standards.

/cut
//Had to get a ball lopped off, too
///nobody cares

 
o5iiawah 2009-07-17 02:49:32 PM  
There are women on FARK?

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:51:06 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: I have reason to believe that being uncut does not a good lover make. I also have reason to believe that being cut doesn't necessarily make a man not a good farking lay.

Hi I'm Captain Jack Harkness, how YOU doin ?


I miss the reference. Please illuminate!

 
Aidan [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:51:41 PM  
TMBGfreak: I put a Type R sticker on mine to give it more horsepower and look extarodinary by riced out Asian standards.

I laughed. Then I took notes.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 02:52:23 PM  
o5iiawah: There are women on FARK?

Quick everyone suck in your gut

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:53:13 PM  
WeenerGord: Botched circumcisions kill 33 boys in South Africa

What did they use? Explosives?

 
GomezAdams [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:54:03 PM  
IXI Jim IXI

You sound like the Protestants from the Every Sperm is Sacred sketch from Meaning of Life...


They weren't Protestants, they were supposedly Irish Catholics. Protestants could use birth control... Catholics are not supposed to.

 
oogmar 2009-07-17 02:55:23 PM  
vinn01: From what I've read, many women will not perform oral on an uncut guy. I can guess many reasons; cleanliness, looks, "mystery folds", etc.

/ Are you uncut guys getting your share?
// Ladies, are you equal in giving with uncut guys?


Every single day. If the man has been out being active, if we've gone for a particularly long skate, if he hasn't gotten around to the shower yet that day, then usually we'll both just hop in the shower (since uncut penises and left alone vaginas are pretty similar in how long it takes them to no longer be "fresh"). It's a little trickier of an operation, but it's not rocket science. Also, if I'm feeling particularly contrary on any given day and don't quite feel up to swallowing, rolling the skin forward and applying slight pressure makes a great cum catch.

/"Many women" are idiots who are neglecting a man for having a more pleasurable package. Stupid, stupid women.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:55:27 PM  
GomezAdams: IXI Jim IXI

You sound like the Protestants from the Every Sperm is Sacred sketch from Meaning of Life...

They weren't Protestants, they were supposedly Irish Catholics. Protestants could use birth control... Catholics are not supposed to.


Did you skip ahead after the song was finished or something?

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:55:43 PM  
WeenerGord: all that stuff you wrote

Look, unless you're my psychoanalyst, I don't appreciate being told what I do or do not feel about my own cock. Trust me, I don't have to pretend to love it or to love the fact that it's cut.

I'm not trying to deny that there are complications both physical and psychological that can arise from getting your sex skin chopped off. I'm not trying to deny that there's no real reason to do it. As I said earlier, I probably wouldn't do it to my son. But as I've grown into the man I am, I've considered the question of circumcision, and I've accepted mine and come to appreciate my physical, biological sex machine.

What do you know otherwise and why would you stoop to telling a stranger what he really does feel about his cock?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:55:47 PM  
flyurchin: I miss the reference. Please illuminate!

BBC Torchwood, cool series.... he likes the new cock smell (when he is not sniffing pussy)

Look it up, I recommend it (Im not doing the "go look it up" I mean.... I recommend it)

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:56:10 PM  
Wow...almost 500 posts, and nobody's mentioned smegma yet.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:57:48 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: Wow...almost 500 posts, and nobody's mentioned smegma yet.

I was gonna post this earlier:

Link

It's an important medical study. on smegma.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:57:59 PM  
flyurchin: WeenerGord: all that stuff you wrote

Look, unless you're my psychoanalyst, I don't appreciate being told what I do or do not feel about my own cock. Trust me, I don't have to pretend to love it or to love the fact that it's cut.

I'm not trying to deny that there are complications both physical and psychological that can arise from getting your sex skin chopped off. I'm not trying to deny that there's no real reason to do it. As I said earlier, I probably wouldn't do it to my son. But as I've grown into the man I am, I've considered the question of circumcision, and I've accepted mine and come to appreciate my physical, biological sex machine.

What do you know otherwise and why would you stoop to telling a stranger what he really does feel about his cock?


Read his post, and put it against the bolded bit... I think (although Im not sure) that is what he meant.

 
TheBigJerk 2009-07-17 02:58:10 PM  
Gwendolyn: Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

You have just been farkied as shot glass foreskin.


Don't GIS for that.

 
GomezAdams [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:58:41 PM  
IXI Jim IXI
Did you skip ahead after the song was finished or something?


No... just going on memory. Must pull out the DVD and have another look then.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:59:08 PM  
WeenerGord: still that stuff you wrote

Also, I don't care what the Bible says, and I think that my childbirth comment still stands. Maybe I should have said pregnancy.

You have a choice about getting pregnant, but be forwarned, it may adversly affect your health, your relationship, your sexual activity, and the rest of your life. If it's so potentially damaging, I guess we should make it illegal, amirite?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:00:00 PM  
hockeyfarker: It's an important medical study. on smegma

yea.... wash that out
.... circ'd guys generate that too

fortunately we live in an era with things like showers, and are not wandering a very small desert for 40 years (wtf moses..... its THAT way dude, totally THAT way)

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:00:50 PM  
flyurchin: I guess we should make it illegal, amirite?

Call me an outlaw.... it just feels sexier

 
paloma [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:01:33 PM  
o5iiawah:
There are women on FARK?


of course not. just a lot of men who, for some inexplicable reason, really, really like talking about circumcision. there's a thread every few weeks on this... i just don't get it.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 03:01:44 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: WeenerGord: Botched circumcisions kill 33 boys in South Africa

What did they use? Explosives?



Piranha fish. But don't worry, it's only negroes, like in the study FTFA.

Also, wouldn't want to deprive burn wards of raw materials
Foreskin contains both the dermis and epidermis layers of skin, making it ideal for skin transplants and burn reconstruction. A single foreskin can generate a square meter of skin

 
GomezAdams [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:02:26 PM  
This matches what I recall...

DAD:
There are Jews in the world.
There are Buddhists.
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, but
I've never been one of them.

I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is:
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.

You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
You don't have to have any clothes on. You're
A Catholic the moment Dad came,


Because

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

CHILDREN:
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:03:19 PM  
flyurchin: I guess we should make it illegal, amirite?

to be fair here

pregnancy is directly responsible for the existence of our species (and all mammals at least)

Chopping the end off of a babies genitals ?!? not so much.

(I cant even imagine deliberately causing harm to my son without my nuts jumping up into my stomach and my adrenaline levels rising.... I guess others are more comfortable with deliberately causing traumatic pain to their children, for essentially cosmetic reasons... do they have their daughters silicone installed at birth too ?)

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 03:03:44 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: WeenerGord: all that stuff you wrote

Look, unless you're my psychoanalyst, I don't appreciate being told what I do or do not feel about my own cock. Trust me, I don't have to pretend to love it or to love the fact that it's cut.

I'm not trying to deny that there are complications both physical and psychological that can arise from getting your sex skin chopped off. I'm not trying to deny that there's no real reason to do it. As I said earlier, I probably wouldn't do it to my son. But as I've grown into the man I am, I've considered the question of circumcision, and I've accepted mine and come to appreciate my physical, biological sex machine.

What do you know otherwise and why would you stoop to telling a stranger what he really does feel about his cock?

Read his post, and put it against the bolded bit... I think (although Im not sure) that is what he meant.


I did read it. I'm not trying to deny what I lost, nor am I trying to use the Bible or medical literature to make up for it. I believe I've accepted my cut, and that I do love my cock. My love, respect, and appreciation of it has grown with experience and age. I'm proud that I have a cock that behaves well, looks great, and feels good. I want to keep it healthy and active. I'm personally very attached to it.

If there are unconcious concerns I have with my cock, I doubt that circumcision is the sole cause. But what I doubt even more is that Mr. WeenerGord knows anything about them.

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 03:03:55 PM  
paloma: o5iiawah:
There are women on FARK?

of course not. just a lot of men who, for some inexplicable reason, really, really like talking about circumcision. there's a thread every few weeks on this... i just don't get it.


I think it's part of an upcoming social/economic revolution. Also included in this revolution is a reconciliation of healthcare, employment, and drug laws.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 03:04:49 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: I guess we should make it illegal, amirite?

to be fair here

pregnancy is directly responsible for the existence of our species (and all mammals at least)

Chopping the end off of a babies genitals ?!? not so much.

(I cant even imagine deliberately causing harm to my son without my nuts jumping up into my stomach and my adrenaline levels rising.... I guess others are more comfortable with deliberately causing traumatic pain to their children, for essentially cosmetic reasons... do they have their daughters silicone installed at birth too ?)


Well, in all fairness, the propegation and reproduction of our species isn't necessary, just like circumcision.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:05:46 PM  
WeenerGord: Also, wouldn't want to deprive burn wards of raw materials

You sound like the kinda person who might have links to this. But I heard not only is it quite healthy skin to use (different to other skin because it faces inwards not just outwards)... and there were some stem cell potentials on it.

.... but you dont have to chop it off to take a graft... its there for a reason (as you state)

 
xenomorpheus [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:06:42 PM  
crm114: CrazyCracka420:

They get the o, the guy obviously cares or feels good enough to put it in and do the work, and it's a blow to their ego when they can keep a guy hard for 45 minutes when he knows he can't cum?


Yes, I agree, it doesn't make any logical sense on the surface, but that is how things actually are.

 
Egalitarian [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:07:00 PM  
CIRCUMCISION THREAD!

Didn't RTFA or the thread because I know how this usually goes:

Farkers: HOW DARE YOU CUT BABBY PENIS!

Farkettes: LOL NOONE CAREZ ABOUT FORESKIN. WOMENZ CAN HAZ CLITORIS?

Farkers: CHICKS WHO ARGUE WITH ME ARE FAT AND DON'T HAVE ORGASMS

Farkettes: ORLY?

\ad nauseum

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 03:07:37 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: I miss the reference. Please illuminate!

BBC Torchwood, cool series.... he likes the new cock smell (when he is not sniffing pussy)

Look it up, I recommend it (Im not doing the "go look it up" I mean.... I recommend it)


Torchwood? I think I've heard of it. And if it has a guy who loves cock smell, then it must have some merit! I'll look it up later.

 
Garble 2009-07-17 03:08:08 PM  
paloma: o5iiawah:
There are women on FARK?
of course not. just a lot of men who, for some inexplicable reason, really, really like talking about circumcision. there's a thread every few weeks on this... i just don't get it.


It's an important subject that's worthy of serious debate and mature discussion.

PENIS!
sorry

 
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