Jubeebee: I remember when I was a kid it could go all the way over the tip, but I'd have to stretch it to get it there now.

Or jump into cold water.

IXI Jim IXI: CrazyCracka420: and there won't be any lasting effects, other than a penis that's streamlined for efficient f*cking.

efficient f*cking?

You sound like the Protestants from the Every Sperm is Sacred sketch from Meaning of Life...

It's a joke...I put racing stripes on my penis too. Less wind resistance.

Slartibartfaster: do uncut guys not realize that it unfurls itself when required ?!?

Americans is dumb.

someahole: Back in college I had a roommate that was uncut. He confessed that he felt that it was definitely a detriment to his sex life. Not only did many US women find it unnerving, but he was also constantly getting yeast infections. At one point he confessed that he and his girlfriend had been passing back and forth the same yeast infection for several months.

As is usual in cases like this, it seems that his problem was not being uncut, but simply poor hygiene (either that or his girl was a damn nasty skank). Seriously, if you're uncut, just wash it. It's really not any bigger of a deal than a woman having to manage her constantly-moist parts. Moist and covered doesn't mean gross and stanky.

griffer: Let's talk about dicks some more.

YUMMY!

PENIS PENIS PENIS

CrazyCracka420: It's a joke...I put racing stripes on my penis too. Less wind resistance.

Yeah, but also plenty of women scouring the internet trying to figure out what disease gives you read lines down your shaft :D

CrazyCracka420: It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

yea it is

// stay the hell away from my cat too

CrazyCracka420: I put racing stripes on my penis

Nope, the mohel put that stripe there for you.

crm114: GoatEwHelenWate: There are at least three of us. I like the uncut ones because the cut ones have weird scars on them.

You study them that closely and intently? Really?

I look very carefully at everything that goes in my mouth. Really.

Jubeebee: griffer: Let's talk about dicks some more.

YUMMY!

PENIS PENIS PENIS

LABIA! LABIA! LABIA!

From USA Today:

Women whose sexual partners are circumcised are less likely to develop cervical cancer than the partners of uncircumcised men, concludes a report out today.

The difference was statistically significant only in the partners of men considered to be at high risk for infection with human papillomavirus, or HPV, according to the study in The New England Journal of Medicine. Such men had had at least six sexual partners in their lifetime, beginning before age 17.

HPV causes genital warts in men and women, and certain strains cause virtually all cervical cancers. HPV also has been linked to cancers of the vagina, anus and penis.

The new report is based on 1,913 couples in five countries. All were married or in a stable relationship for at least six months. Half of the women had cervical cancer, and 370 of the men were circumcised. Worldwide, an estimated one in four men are circumcised.

Researchers interviewed all of the men and got samples of penile cells from 1,524. The scientists tested the samples for HPV.

After accounting for such factors as age at first intercourse and lifetime number of sexual partners, circumcised men were only about a third as likely as uncircumcised men to test positive for HPV. The authors speculate that circumcision, which involves removal of the foreskin, minimizes the area of the penis vulnerable to HPV infection.

On the whole, partners of circumcised men were about 25% less likely to have cervical cancer than partners of uncircumcised men, a difference that was not statistically significant. But among women in relationships with men at high risk for HPV, those with circumcised partners were 80% less likely to have cervical cancer.

Co-author Keerti Shah, a virologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore, notes that other research suggests that circumcision also reduces men's risk of infection with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

"This may be something that may be true for many sexually transmitted infections," Shah says.

hope you uncut mofos like your herpes

griffer: CrazyCracka420: Considering it's not useless, or ugly, I would not.

That's like your opinion.

What about ears? The point is, there is no reason to do it.

Other than conformity.

And it damages the sexual function of the penis. This is medical fact.

BUT KEEP ON CUTTING YOUR SINS DICKS BECAUSE YOU HAD YOUR MANGLED!

The foreskin of the father are not tolerated on the son, either, i see.

I don't think any circumcised men have problems cumming. I don't consider it mangled, it looks like your penis when you're hard, except mine doesn't have skin there.

Look, I already conceded there's really no difference at all in how women (even in the US) view penises. There's really no benefit in a modern country, to being circ'ed. I just like the look, and am used to it. I would do the same for my son, because e i like the look of my clean dick. I don't see what the big deal is if you want to leave it, or want to chop it. It's a little flap of skin.

If you want to talk about it desensitizing the penis, I can tell you, I've got a boner about 85% of the day, and I can cum without any problems.

I'm telling you, there's really no difference at all, it's just aesthetic opinion.

hockeyfarker: hope you uncut mofos like your herpes

Oh, please.

karooble: Moist and covered doesn't mean gross and stanky.

Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

Isuldirs: Wow. Over dramatize much?

I consider cutting off the end of my penis more dramatic than altering my ears, so that would be UNDER dramatizing.

// what are you ? ferenghi ?

CrazyCracka420: You're a f*cking moron...

Doing it to a baby is different than having a grown man get circ'ed. Adult male circumcision is hell, you get a boner and you can get the stitches to come out...it's painful, and you have a doc coming at your penis with a knife.

Parents are deciding for their kids whether or not they'll be circ'ed for life. If you circ them, or not, I can tell you they won't get the procedure done later in life (there's no point in doing it, unless it's medical).

Do I need to draw a diagram? If you're uncut as an infant, you can either get cut as an adult or not. If you're cut as an infant, end of the line.

Why would they not see all the obvious benefits of circumcision you're talking about and get it done?

crm114: Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

yea, cuz pulling my foreskin back and washing under it is TOTALLY not fun

// REALLY ? THAT stupid ?

karooble: someahole: Back in college I had a roommate that was uncut. He confessed that he felt that it was definitely a detriment to his sex life. Not only did many US women find it unnerving, but he was also constantly getting yeast infections. At one point he confessed that he and his girlfriend had been passing back and forth the same yeast infection for several months.

As is usual in cases like this, it seems that his problem was not being uncut, but simply poor hygiene (either that or his girl was a damn nasty skank). Seriously, if you're uncut, just wash it. It's really not any bigger of a deal than a woman having to manage her constantly-moist parts. Moist and covered doesn't mean gross and stanky.

Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas, if they do that, it can take away the natural bacteria that keeps them balanced.

CrazyCracka420: it looks like your penis

PAY ATTENTION, DUMMY!

I. am. cut.

I said it before.

CrazyCracka420: aesthetic opinion

I know, van gogh. That's my point. You aren't listening.

Whatever.

griffer: Nope, the mohel put that stripe there for you.

With my luck, my son would get the guy with hiccups.

hockeyfarker:

Considering that there's a vaccine for HPV for women, I don't see that as any logical reason to continue to circumcise males.

Hey man! I was circ'ed at 3 days old and I couln't walk for a farkin' year!!!

Slartibartfaster: crm114: Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

yea, cuz pulling my foreskin back and washing under it is TOTALLY not fun

// REALLY ? THAT stupid ?

REALLY? TAKING THIS THAT SERIOUSLY? CARING ABOUT CIRCUMCISION THAT MUCH? TYPING IN CAPSLOCK THIS MUCH? WHAARGARBL!!!

/calm down Frances, welcome to Fark

WorldKnowledge: Hey man! I was circ'ed at 3 days old and I couln't walk for a farkin' year!!!

LOLLER!

CrazyCracka420: Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas

now take away the quotes around "clean"
or aim higher at the trailer park jamboree next time

crm114: Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

Unmoist and uncovered also means less sensitivity. For the girls: Imagine if you had to hold your outer (and inner, if they're big like that) labia open until everything gets nice and dry. Now try touching your parts and see if you experience nearly as intense a feeling. You won't. It's like having chapped lips or dry hands. This is why we use lube.

griffer: PAY ATTENTION, DUMMY!

I. am. cut.

Well, then it REALLY looks like your penis.

But bigger. :D

IXI Jim IXI: Jubeebee: I remember when I was a kid it could go all the way over the tip, but I'd have to stretch it to get it there now.

Or jump into cold water.

Or that.

karooble: As is usual in cases like this, it seems that his problem was not being uncut, but simply poor hygiene (either that or his girl was a damn nasty skank). Seriously, if you're uncut, just wash it. It's really not any bigger of a deal than a woman having to manage her constantly-moist parts. Moist and covered doesn't mean gross and stanky.

Note that as a teenager, the required cleaning often leads to other regularly scheduled maintenance and complaints about the water bill from parents.

crm114: TAKING THIS THAT SERIOUSLY?

YES!

crm114: TYPING IN CAPSLOCK THIS MUCH

When used in combination with other caps levels, its considered a way to emphasize words (much like bolding stuff)

Typing the whole sentence in caps however.... not so much.

Edd17: CrazyCracka420: You're a f*cking moron...

Doing it to a baby is different than having a grown man get circ'ed. Adult male circumcision is hell, you get a boner and you can get the stitches to come out...it's painful, and you have a doc coming at your penis with a knife.

Parents are deciding for their kids whether or not they'll be circ'ed for life. If you circ them, or not, I can tell you they won't get the procedure done later in life (there's no point in doing it, unless it's medical).

Do I need to draw a diagram? If you're uncut as an infant, you can either get cut as an adult or not. If you're cut as an infant, end of the line.

Why would they not see all the obvious benefits of circumcision you're talking about and get it done?

God, you're f*cking dense. I didn't say there were benefits of being circ'ed, now did I? Do I need to draw you a diagram? No adult male in their right mind would get circ'ed. Who would make a conscious choice to let a doc come at their penis with a knife? The post-op is horrible and complicated...of course they're not going to go through circumcision as an adult...

So now that I've explained that getting circ'ed as an adult, is really a non-sequitar, would you care to draw that diagram for me?

If you circ your kid, he's circ'ed for life, if you don't, he's gonna be uncirc'ed for life (unless it's medically necessary). I've already explained why. If you disagree, you're either not an adult male with a penis, or you really believe there are advantages to being circ'ed (which there are not, besides aesthetic reasons).

Look, if my son is going to have any kind of pecker surgery that early in his life, I'd rather he had it enlarged.

zoips: Considering that there's a vaccine for HPV for women, I don't see that as any logical reason to continue to circumcise males.

When I said "hope you uncut mofos like your herpes" what part made you think I was referring to women?

hockeyfarker: After accounting for such factors as age at first intercourse and lifetime number of sexual partners, circumcised men were only about a third as likely as uncircumcised men to test positive for HPV.

Slartibartfaster: I consider cutting off the end of my penis more dramatic than altering my ears, so that would be UNDER dramatizing.

Well I know that MANY (if not most) of my pals are cut, yet I know NO ONE who has cut their ear lobs off.

what are you ? ferenghi ?



HOW DID YOU KNOW?!

/Lets agree to disagree and enjoy our weekend.

CrazyCracka420: Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas, if they do that, it can take away the natural bacteria that keeps them balanced.

Soap's stupid, and douching is ridiculously idiotic, but a rinse (of the outer/inner labia, not the vaginal canal itself) with plain water in the shower doesn't hurt anything. And if a woman is stanky, it's a useful step (though she should really seek out antibiotics if she's that rank).

Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas

now take away the quotes around "clean"
or aim higher at the trailer park jamboree next time

I don't get it...I used the word "clean" because they do maintenance down there, I just haven't met any who actually clean it in the shower.

crm114: It wasn't the disagreement that was a troll, it was bringing up the Catholic priesthood abuse when it had nothing to do with the subject at hand. Those cases involve alter boys and such who, quite obviously, can remember the abuse and thus talk about it. I don't know one person who was circumcised as a baby and remembers the pain or trauma, and to equate circumcision with sexual abuse is pretty damn retarded in terms of long term effects and the motivation behind them.

/damn you for making me be serious in a thread that's this much fun...for God's sake I got to type the phrase "take a tequila shot out of your penis" earlier

Oh, lighten up. I was referencing repressed memories against the silly argument that if you don't remember something, it doesn't count. As for it being sexual abuse, it's ritualistic/cosmetic genital mutilation of a baby. I'd say that's sexual abuse.

Jubeebee: Note that as a teenager, the required cleaning often leads to other regularly scheduled maintenance and complaints about the water bill from parents

if it takes you that long, that is called "masturbating" not "cleaning"

karooble: crm114: Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

Unmoist and uncovered also means less sensitivity. For the girls: Imagine if you had to hold your outer (and inner, if they're big like that) labia open until everything gets nice and dry. Now try touching your parts and see if you experience nearly as intense a feeling. You won't. It's like having chapped lips or dry hands. This is why we use lube.

Never had any problem with sensitivity, chafing or any feeling resembling what you described, of course I've always been cut but I have to say...I think you're doing it wrong

/fap,fap,fap

karooble: Soap's stupid, and douching is ridiculously idiotic,

Draino is probably not such a good idea either...

CrazyCracka420: I don't get it...I used the word "clean" because they do maintenance down there

That reminds me. When my wife is in having our son, I'm going to ask them to change her oil...

CrazyCracka420: I just haven't met any who actually clean it in the shower

now THAT's a fun task to share with her ;-)

But I must have different luck to you, ... I have never met one that does not clean it in the shower.

I love these circ threads. The wharrrgarrrble is always epic. Carry on.

IXI Jim IXI: CrazyCracka420: I don't get it...I used the word "clean" because they do maintenance down there

That reminds me. When my wife is in having our son, I'm going to ask them to change her oil...

They might have a newer model you could test drive

CrazyCracka420: How is that bad logic? I don't think any adult male in their right mind would get circumcised, and that's including those like myself, who are circ'ed already (if we were to pretend we weren't). If that's the case (which I guarantee it is), then how is it giving your baby a choice to leave them uncircumcised? They aren't going to go out and get circ'ed, because (as I already said, and I think any male would agree), a dude's not gonna go out and let a doc come at his penis with a knife. The post-op is horrible for circumcision, the only way someone would do it as an adult, is for medical reasons.

You can argue all you want about whether or not to circ your baby, but don't give me the copout that "you're giving them a choice", that's bullsh*t, and anyone in their right mind knows it.

Your argument is that, because one of the options is so unattractive that nobody would choose it, not forcing that option on a child, and allowing that child to make the decision for themselves, is not a choice.

You could use that argument about any possible choice where one option is obviously unattractive.

Smarshmallow: Oh, lighten up. I was referencing repressed memories against the silly argument that if you don't remember something, it doesn't count. As for it being sexual abuse, it's ritualistic/cosmetic genital mutilation of a baby. I'd say that's sexual abuse.

YOU lighten up!

IXI Jim IXI: karooble: Soap's stupid, and douching is ridiculously idiotic,

Draino is probably not such a good idea either...

You shouldn't use chemicals on such a sensitive area at all. If it's got that old tuna smell, just rinse it out with a firehose

Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: I just haven't met any who actually clean it in the shower

now THAT's a fun task to share with her ;-)

But I must have different luck to you, ... I have never met one that does not clean it in the shower.

Well not inside their vaginal wall, but like karooble said, they still clean their lips and on the outside.

CrazyCracka420: They might have a newer model you could test drive

"The rear end is out of alignment. Anything you can do for that?"