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Two Dogs Farking [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:54:43 AM  
This headline is a thing of beauty. +1

 
Dancin_In_Anson [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 09:13:45 AM  
*Golf clap*

 
Bored Horde 2009-07-17 09:30:57 AM  
I think this is just the tip of the issue.

 
brap [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 09:31:21 AM  
i253.photobucket.com

 
Bufu [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 09:36:17 AM  
No big thing.

 
Gwendolyn [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 09:54:25 AM  
WOW you mean using condoms is more important than whether your foreskin is cut off?! Who's have thought?

everyone that wasn't retarded

 
Gwendolyn [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 09:59:54 AM  
*Who'd

I still need sleep.

 
Control_this [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 10:00:28 AM  
That circumcision/AIDS study is also a thing of resplendent stupidity.

Any correlation between circumcision and a lower incidence of AIDS is because of the correlation between circumcision and doctors visits, better education, etc.

 
The Icelander [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 10:15:51 AM  
TFA: Circumcising men who already have HIV does not protect their female partners from the virus, a study in Uganda has found.

I could have told you this.

 
brap [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 10:23:30 AM  
Dear Science Diary,

Apparently my "what better way to stem the tide of sexually transmitted diseases than introducing an open wound to the peen" theory has been shot out of the water.

I am aghast but resolved to move forworward. Tomorrow, we go to Plan B, which will involve teaching the natives to integrate needle sharing and chainsaw juggling into their foreplay.

 
sigdiamond2000 [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 10:50:39 AM  
The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

 
NightOwl2255 2009-07-17 10:56:31 AM  
sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.


The stupidest? I thought that was PC v. Apple.

//Anything that involves lopping off part of a mans junk, isn't insignificant.

 
drongozone 2009-07-17 11:07:29 AM  
Didja hear about the mohel who doesn't charge for the bris?

He only takes tips!

ba-dum

 
U8D1EyedSnake 2009-07-17 11:07:50 AM  
Ah, how I love the circumcision threads. People have such heated opinions and I love trying to figure out who is and isn't circumcised based on their opinions.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:08:17 AM  
Being circumcised is awesome and I would recommend it to anyone. My little man don't need no hood.

 
Mongo cut wood 2009-07-17 11:08:52 AM  
Very funny headline subby!

 
GoodyearPimp 2009-07-17 11:08:56 AM  
sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.


You're right -- I don't care about female circumcision and neither should you. Stupid uppity women wanting sex to be pleasurable.

 
lockheed1039 2009-07-17 11:09:15 AM  
NightOwl2255: sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

The stupidest? I thought that was PC v. Apple. VHS vs Beta.

ftfy

//Anything that involves lopping off part of a mans junk, isn't insignificant.

 
sdaas 2009-07-17 11:09:35 AM  
NightOwl2255: sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

The stupidest? I thought that was PC v. Apple.

//Anything that involves lopping off part of a mans junk, isn't insignificant.


I don't see the issue, I doubt I would care either way.

 
Liquid Ass Fart Spray 2009-07-17 11:09:53 AM  
I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:09:58 AM  
U8D1EyedSnake: I love trying to figure out who is and isn't circumcised based on their opinions.

seriously? you spend time figuring out whether internet dudes are cut or not? Maybe you should consider a hobby or getting cable TV

 
Englebert Slaptyback 2009-07-17 11:10:32 AM  

sigdiamond2000


The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.


Literally - really? Not metaphorically? Allegorically? Philosophically? Morally? Not even as a simile or analogy?

Wow.

 
Spike Lee's Favorite Farker 2009-07-17 11:10:35 AM  
GoodyearPimp: Stupid uppity women wanting sex to be pleasurable.

Finally someone has expressed the feelings that I have been unable to articulate all this time.

Thank you

 
Lumpmoose [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:11:43 AM  
GoodyearPimp: sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

You're right -- I don't care about female circumcision and neither should you. Stupid uppity women wanting sex to be pleasurable.


And away we go!

 
crm114 2009-07-17 11:11:50 AM  
Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

The option to go through the pain and awkwardness that they would have forgotten had they been circumcised as a baby?

/mushrooms vs. elephant trunks...I don't really care

 
NightOwl2255 2009-07-17 11:11:53 AM  
Englebert Slaptyback: sigdiamond2000

The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.


Literally - really? Not metaphorically? Allegorically? Philosophically? Morally? Not even as a simile or analogy?

Wow.


Damn I love a good Thesaurus smack down!

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:12:25 AM  
hockeyfarker: U8D1EyedSnake: I love trying to figure out who is and isn't circumcised based on their opinions.

seriously? you spend time figuring out whether internet dudes are cut or not? Maybe you should consider a hobby or getting cable TV


You sound uncut.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:12:40 AM  
The researchers suggest the higher transmission rate could have been due to couples resuming their sex lives before the circumcision would have properly healed.

I think I speak for all men when I curl into the fetal position and rock back and forth after reading that

 
Crewmannumber6 2009-07-17 11:13:16 AM  
sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.


That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:13:49 AM  
crm114: mushrooms vs. elephant trunks

You sound cut.

 
Evil 2009-07-17 11:13:53 AM  
headline of the year

 
crm114 2009-07-17 11:14:27 AM  
hockeyfarker: The researchers suggest the higher transmission rate could have been due to couples resuming their sex lives before the circumcision would have properly healed.

I think I speak for all men when I curl into the fetal position and rock back and forth after reading that


DNRTFA but thanks for making sure I'm included

/legs now crossed and locked tightly

 
Liquid Ass Fart Spray 2009-07-17 11:14:36 AM  
crm114: Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

The option to go through the pain and awkwardness that they would have forgotten had they been circumcised as a baby?

/mushrooms vs. elephant trunks...I don't really care


Pain and awkwardness? Pain? Um.. what?!

 
lukelightning 2009-07-17 11:14:42 AM  
Circumcision works because somewhere in the back of your brain there is a voice saying "be careful who touches your penis... remember last time..."

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:14:49 AM  
Crewmannumber6: That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

You sound uncut.

 
madblader 2009-07-17 11:16:29 AM  
"Circumcision is known to protect men from acquiring HIV."

Someone needs to study up.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 11:16:31 AM  
Liquid Ass Fart Spray:
Pain and awkwardness? Pain? Um.. what?!


I'm sure they anesthetize during, but I imagine the recovery period is unpleasant...

 
Crewmannumber6 2009-07-17 11:16:45 AM  
griffer: Crewmannumber6: That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

You sound uncut.


Ya think? Was born in Ireland but grew up in America where, apparently, they do things a little different

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:16:49 AM  
griffer: You sound uncut.

I am also uncensored and unrated

 
Liquid Ass Fart Spray 2009-07-17 11:16:55 AM  
Crewmannumber6: sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school


So some other dudes checked out your junk. If you are into that then that's a plus but if not then who cares?

 
Linoleum_Blownapart 2009-07-17 11:17:01 AM  
crm114: Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

The option to go through the pain and awkwardness that they would have forgotten had they been circumcised as a baby?

/mushrooms vs. elephant trunks...I don't really care


That's why my boys both got their Prince Albert's before we took them home from the hospital.

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 11:17:42 AM  
crm114: Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

The option to go through the pain and awkwardness that they would have forgotten had they been circumcised as a baby?

/mushrooms vs. elephant trunks...I don't really care


That's why I had my childrens' ears removed at birth. If I had waited too long, it would be a traumatic experience, but it's okay if I do it before they're ambulatory.

 
Englebert Slaptyback 2009-07-17 11:17:46 AM  

NightOwl2255


Damn I love a good Thesaurus smack down!


For good or ill, the thesaurus remained undisturbed throughout the composition of that missive.

 
NightOwl2255 2009-07-17 11:18:29 AM  
griffer: Crewmannumber6: That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

You sound uncut.


You sound unsure. All you have to do is drop...look, something shiny.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 11:18:46 AM  
griffer: crm114: mushrooms vs. elephant trunks

You sound cut.


Well played, you win this round...

 
Smarshmallow 2009-07-17 11:19:10 AM  
total castration protects 100% against HIV. Also population control.

 
DipsomaniacDawg 2009-07-17 11:19:13 AM  
sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.


Heh. I've got a British co-worker who loves to get on his high horse about this one. He says "it's genital mutilation and the child has no say in the matter. It should be illegal. Only people in the US and Israel get this done" blah blah blah.

I didn't argue much back. I just told him that my dick is pretty and his looks like it's used for frosting baked goods. The end.

 
vinn01 2009-07-17 11:20:50 AM  
What stupid women did they get to be a part of this study? They got 170 uninfected females!

"We want you to have unprotected sex with a HIV positive man. Some of the men in our study will be circumcised."

Someone thought that was a good idea? "It was found that a higher proportion of women were infected with HIV in the intervention group (18%) versus the control group (12%)."

There were 92 couples in the circumcision group and 67 in the control group were included in the final analysis. That means that 16 women in the group and 8 women in the control group were infected by participating in this study.

 
madblader 2009-07-17 11:20:50 AM  
Circumcision doesn't prove any statistically significance advantage on anything. Yet, oddly enough, when discussing circumcision no one ever brings up the thousands that die, are permanently scarred, or end up with a severely mutilated penis.

 
Smarshmallow 2009-07-17 11:20:53 AM  
crm114: The option to go through the pain and awkwardness that they would have forgotten had they been circumcised as a baby?

/mushrooms vs. elephant trunks...I don't really care


Right. If the kid won't remember it, it isn't traumatic. I think that you'll have a lot of support for this theory among the Catholic priesthood.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 11:21:38 AM  
DipsomaniacDawg: sigdiamond2000: his looks like it's used for frosting baked goods. The end.

Well...it just got a whole lot easier to avoid baked goods...

 
Farkwaddle 2009-07-17 11:21:51 AM  
Crewmannumber6: griffer: Crewmannumber6: That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

You sound uncut.

Ya think? Was born in Ireland but grew up in America where, apparently, they do things a little different


The Jews brainwashed us into thinking penile vanity was important. Wait..wha??

 
The Icelander [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:22:09 AM  
madblader: "Circumcision is known to protect men from acquiring HIV."

Someone needs to study up.


I can see why this might be the case. If the foreskin is left on, the skin underneath is softer and more susceptible to abrasion. Combine this with the fact that if you don't wash after sex the foreskin keeps the fluids in contact with the skin underneath it for a longer time.

So it may offer some protection, but not nearly as much as using a condom.

 
BIGNICKEL 2009-07-17 11:22:43 AM  
Control_this: That circumcision/AIDS study is also a thing of resplendent stupidity.

Any correlation between circumcision and a lower incidence of AIDS is because of the correlation between circumcision and doctors visits, better education, etc.


Citation needed.

 
dittybopper [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:22:48 AM  
Happy bris day to you
Happy bris day to you
Happy bris day dear Shlomo,
Happy bris day to you.

/Been saving that one.
//Don't forget to 'tip' the waitress.
///Heh heh heh

 
Gothnet 2009-07-17 11:22:49 AM  
Keep blades away from the precious!

 
Pinner 2009-07-17 11:23:27 AM  
My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

 
tedbundee 2009-07-17 11:23:29 AM  
Bored Horde: I think this is just the tip of the tissue.

FTFY

 
crm114 2009-07-17 11:23:51 AM  
Smarshmallow: Right. If the kid won't remember it, it isn't traumatic. I think that you'll have a lot of support for this theory among the Catholic priesthood.

pix.motivatedphotos.com

 
stuhayes2010 [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:24:07 AM  
How about cutting the entire penis off and watch the HIV rates plummet!!

/uncut

 
Farkwaddle 2009-07-17 11:24:48 AM  
madblader: Circumcision doesn't prove any statistically significance advantage on anything. Yet, oddly enough, when discussing circumcision no one ever brings up the thousands that die, are permanently scarred, or end up with a severely mutilated penis.

Flawless execution of a classic Fark argument/bait. Let's see who bites....

 
GomezAdams [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:25:05 AM  
Circumcision. I'm against genital mutilation and just because the Jewish and Muslim Guy in the Sky says to don't make it right.

/Nasty shiat
//Going to go get lawn chair, adult beverage, popcorn and watch the fun.
///Gentile so I should not have had my day old pener trimmed by a Jewish doctor.

 
U8D1EyedSnake 2009-07-17 11:25:28 AM  
hockeyfarker:seriously? you spend time figuring out whether internet dudes are cut or not? Maybe you should consider a hobby or getting cable TV

Yes, I really spend all my time thinking about whether or not random strangers are circumcised.

No, I just think that how people feel about circumcision is interesting and you can usually tell based on their opinion whether they are or not.

Case in point:

griffer:You sound uncut.

Thinks I sound uncircumcised based on my statement that you can sometimes tell about a person based on their opinion.

/farkette
//thankfully not circumcised
///that would be awful

 
Linoleum_Blownapart 2009-07-17 11:26:11 AM  
Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Does she then make jokes about 'the worm'?

 
sdaas 2009-07-17 11:26:58 AM  
Farkwaddle: madblader: Circumcision doesn't prove any statistically significance advantage on anything. Yet, oddly enough, when discussing circumcision no one ever brings up the thousands that die, are permanently scarred, or end up with a severely mutilated penis.

Flawless execution of a classic Fark argument/bait. Let's see who bites....


almost did, was going to use vaccines as a strawman to his bait, but I couldn't find enough information so I gave up.

 
stuhayes2010 [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:27:44 AM  
What we need on fark is a news story about circumcision, motorcycles, and Apple Computers. But does Steve Jobs ride a motorcycle?

That would be a legendary thread.

 
Pinner 2009-07-17 11:28:10 AM  
Linoleum_Blownapart: Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Does she then make jokes about 'the worm'?


No, but you just did. :•(

 
crm114 2009-07-17 11:28:16 AM  
Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.
pix.motivatedphotos.com

 
EggFool [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:30:18 AM  
Gwendolyn:

I still need sleep.


Well you're never gonna get it! There's a guy who's been awake since the Second World War!

 
Gwendolyn [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:30:22 AM  
crm114: Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Uh WOW.

 
lukelightning 2009-07-17 11:30:28 AM  
Smarshmallow: total castration protects 100% against HIV.

It hasn't seemed to protect the hijras.

 
Oh-Boy 2009-07-17 11:30:35 AM  
cutting something off for no good reason is stupid. There is very limited evidence that the little cut helps... unless you live in a third world country with no clean water. Why is this even a debate? It's not like we cut out eyes to prevent supid children from getting pink eye - a mostly harmless and merely visual problem - just like what you'll (possibly) prevent by cutting little boys.

 
Gwendolyn [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:31:43 AM  
Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

You have just been farkied as shot glass foreskin.

 
Farkwaddle 2009-07-17 11:32:54 AM  
stuhayes2010: What we need on fark is a news story about circumcision, motorcycles, and Apple Computers. But does Steve Jobs ride a motorcycle?

That would be a legendary thread.


It's an incomprehensible idea. It would be like finding the sorcerer's stone affixed on the tip of the horn of the patriarchal unicorn within the lands of Atlantis. Your head would instantly 'splode.

 
xtonyx [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:32:59 AM  
my parents fought over it.

/ mom won.
// i'm not even jewish!

 
crm114 2009-07-17 11:33:25 AM  
Oh-Boy: cutting something off for no good reason is stupid. There is very limited evidence that the little cut helps... unless you live in a third world country with no clean water. Why is this even a debate? It's not like we cut out eyes to prevent supid children from getting pink eye - a mostly harmless and merely visual problem - just like what you'll (possibly) prevent by cutting little boys.

I don't really care but I do enjoy being able to whip it out and pee whenever and wherever I want and not have to deal with pulling skin back, cleaning the area, or whatever the hell else is involved in the operation that I don't want to know about.

 
NightOwl2255 2009-07-17 11:33:41 AM  
Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Your doing it wrong, you'll never get her drunk that way!

 
Gwendolyn [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:34:21 AM  
xtonyx: my parents fought over it.

/ mom won.
// i'm not even jewish!


I let the husband decide because I have no idea what it's like to have a penis. He went with not cutting after getting the tour of the hospital while one was being done. Poor guy almost barfed.

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 11:34:59 AM  
U8D1EyedSnake: /farkette
//thankfully not circumcised
///that would be awful


I've been telling my wife that if she thinks circumcision is so great, she could get her clitoral hood removed for a small fee.

 
Gwendolyn [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:35:27 AM  
crm114: Oh-Boy: cutting something off for no good reason is stupid. There is very limited evidence that the little cut helps... unless you live in a third world country with no clean water. Why is this even a debate? It's not like we cut out eyes to prevent supid children from getting pink eye - a mostly harmless and merely visual problem - just like what you'll (possibly) prevent by cutting little boys.

I don't really care but I do enjoy being able to whip it out and pee whenever and wherever I want and not have to deal with pulling skin back, cleaning the area, or whatever the hell else is involved in the operation that I don't want to know about.


Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

 
GomezAdams [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:35:44 AM  
And a PS. I told my son's Jewish pediatrician I wasn't having him cut and he went ballistic. Told me the kid's pecker wouldn't grow straight and said he would get all the diseases. Then he yanked the foreskin trying to tear it so I would have to have it done. I wanted to kill the stupid SOB on the spot but got the kid out of there and found another pediatrician. Should have reported him to the state board. Also told him that millions of years of human evolution occurred before this crap started and no one cuts any other mammal with a foreskin, i.e. horses, monkeys, apes, and for all I know whales and porpoises.

 
Pinner 2009-07-17 11:36:03 AM  
NightOwl2255: Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Your doing it wrong, you'll never get her drunk that way!


Oh, it works. Tonight I'm going for second base!

 
Liquid Ass Fart Spray 2009-07-17 11:36:03 AM  
Smarshmallow: total castration protects 100% against HIV. Also population control.

crm114: Oh-Boy: cutting something off for no good reason is stupid. There is very limited evidence that the little cut helps... unless you live in a third world country with no clean water. Why is this even a debate? It's not like we cut out eyes to prevent supid children from getting pink eye - a mostly harmless and merely visual problem - just like what you'll (possibly) prevent by cutting little boys.

I don't really care but I do enjoy being able to whip it out and pee whenever and wherever I want and not have to deal with pulling skin back, cleaning the area, or whatever the hell else is involved in the operation that I don't want to know about.


Its not that hard to pee with it on there. Also you sound like you need to be on a sex offender list! Imagine peeing in a hidden corner so nobody can see you but still outside. How dare you offend any children!

 
EggFool [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:36:52 AM  
NightOwl2255: Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Your doing it wrong, you'll never get her drunk that way!


Doesn't sound like getting her drunk is necessary...

 
Oh-Boy 2009-07-17 11:37:12 AM  
crm114: Oh-Boy: cutting something off for no good reason is stupid. There is very limited evidence that the little cut helps... unless you live in a third world country with no clean water. Why is this even a debate? It's not like we cut out eyes to prevent supid children from getting pink eye - a mostly harmless and merely visual problem - just like what you'll (possibly) prevent by cutting little boys.

I don't really care but I do enjoy being able to whip it out and pee whenever and wherever I want and not have to deal with pulling skin back, cleaning the area, or whatever the hell else is involved in the operation that I don't want to know about.


Um... nothing? You jsut use soap in the shower in the morning. This is about as skill-intensive as washing your hands. If you're too retarded to do that, I think the gov. needs to repossess your johnson.

 
Cybernetic 2009-07-17 11:37:30 AM  
Englebert Slaptyback: NightOwl2255

Damn I love a good Thesaurus smack down!


For good or ill, the thesaurus remained undisturbed throughout the composition of that missive.


Your ebullient use of polysyllabics does engender approbation.

/Also without a thesaurus.

 
Gothnet 2009-07-17 11:38:05 AM  
Keep blades away from the precious!crm114:
I don't really care but I do enjoy being able to whip it out and pee whenever and wherever I want and not have to deal with pulling skin back, cleaning the area, or whatever the hell else is involved in the operation that I don't want to know about.



And you think people who are not circumcised can't?

You know that europeans don't get circumcised, right?
And that the whole of France smells like piss?

Put two and two together here!

 
crm114 2009-07-17 11:38:54 AM  
Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?

 
Liquid Ass Fart Spray 2009-07-17 11:38:59 AM  
Gothnet: Keep blades away from the precious!crm114:
I don't really care but I do enjoy being able to whip it out and pee whenever and wherever I want and not have to deal with pulling skin back, cleaning the area, or whatever the hell else is involved in the operation that I don't want to know about.


And you think people who are not circumcised can't?

You know that europeans don't get circumcised, right?
And that the whole of France smells like piss?

Put two and two together here!


I get it now! When you surrender you pee yourself!
/oblig

 
Marley'sGirl 2009-07-17 11:39:14 AM  
Had no face, no personality, very dull. It was like a martian. But hey, that's me.

 
genzoman 2009-07-17 11:40:49 AM  
i can see where this is going:

person 1: HAHA! you sheep follow an invisible sky wizard!11 atheism rulz!!

person 2: you had your penis cut in the same way that the invisible sky wizard told some made up story book character 5000 years ago

person 1: but it protects against AIDS...

 
Oh-Boy 2009-07-17 11:40:57 AM  
crm114: Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?


No, it doesn't. This idea makes no sense. It's like saying that the goggles get int he way of a skier, or the steering wheel is in the way of a cab driver.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 11:41:29 AM  
Pinner: NightOwl2255: Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Your doing it wrong, you'll never get her drunk that way!

Oh, it works. Tonight I'm going for second base!


She's taken tequila shots out of your penis, but you haven't gotten to second base?

 
Gothnet 2009-07-17 11:42:08 AM  
crm114: Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?

So you pull it back a fraction. That feels good, by the way.

 
Pinner 2009-07-17 11:42:21 AM  
crm114: Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?


It does sometimes. Kind of like running the garden hose on full blast. With your fingers over the end.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 11:42:35 AM  
genzoman: i can see where this is going:

person 1: HAHA! you sheep follow an invisible sky wizard!11 atheism rulz!!

person 2: you had your penis cut in the same way that the invisible sky wizard told some made up story book character 5000 years ago

person 1: but it protects against AIDS...


0/10 See above image regarding trolling

 
foo monkey 2009-07-17 11:42:47 AM  
vinn01: What stupid women did they get to be a part of this study? They got 170 uninfected females!

"We want you to have unprotected sex with a HIV positive man. Some of the men in our study will be circumcised."

Someone thought that was a good idea? "It was found that a higher proportion of women were infected with HIV in the intervention group (18%) versus the control group (12%)."

There were 92 couples in the circumcision group and 67 in the control group were included in the final analysis. That means that 16 women in the group and 8 women in the control group were infected by participating in this study.


This is one of the huge flaws with all the HIV/Circumcision studies. They circumcise the men, then just set them and the controls loose in the population. There's no controls on their behavior. There's no checks on the women they have sex with. Are any of these men gay? Drug users? We don't know. It's not science. It's desperation.

 
zoips 2009-07-17 11:44:41 AM  
Because as we all know HIV is not actually transmitted in ejaculate.

 
Cottage Cheesecake 2009-07-17 11:45:56 AM  
A perfect Fark headline. Textbook perfect. Subby gets a brand new internet (less my replacement keyboard, of course).

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 11:49:01 AM  
Oh-Boy: crm114: Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?

No, it doesn't. This idea makes no sense. It's like saying that the goggles get int he way of a skier, or the steering wheel is in the way of a cab driver.


I'm confused and troubled by your analogies.

 
Englebert Slaptyback 2009-07-17 11:49:29 AM  

Cybernetic


Your ebullient use of polysyllabics does engender approbation.

/Also without a thesaurus.


Word. :-)

*tips hat*

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:49:39 AM  
The Icelander: So it may offer some protection

You sound uncut.

 
Sobrrr 2009-07-17 11:51:00 AM  
Liquid Ass Fart Spray
I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.


I thought that was the best way to go too and then hubby wanted it done. Penis proxy. The doc did a good job but I'm sorry now that I didn't defend my boy's options.

 
Farkwaddle 2009-07-17 11:52:19 AM  
EggFool: Gwendolyn:

I still need sleep.

Well you're never gonna get it! There's a guy who's been awake since the Second World War!


Wow. That may be the first BNL reference I've ever seen here.

 
GomezAdams [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 11:52:43 AM  
crm114: Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.


Left my kid uncut.. see earlier posts. Not only does he pee just fine, he can write his name in the sand. In Chinese.

 
trintrin 2009-07-17 11:53:09 AM  
Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

 
Accent 2009-07-17 11:53:28 AM  
FTA: Circumcision is known to protect men from acquiring HIV.

I think they might want to change that to "is known to help protect"

It doesn't prevent the acquisition of HIV the same way an kevlar vest doesn't protect you from being shot to death.

 
Accent 2009-07-17 11:54:08 AM  
Accent: "a" kevlar vest

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 11:54:34 AM  
Sobrrr: Liquid Ass Fart Spray
I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.


I thought that was the best way to go too and then hubby wanted it done. Penis proxy. The doc did a good job but I'm sorry now that I didn't defend my boy's options.


In your defense, that was only the first step in completely farking up your child for life.

 
karooble 2009-07-17 11:55:43 AM  
trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

You're not. I think so too. Cut peeners look mutilated to me, like if someone had had their earlobes cut off.

 
AlienZulu 2009-07-17 11:56:45 AM  
best headline of the week

 
crm114 2009-07-17 11:57:34 AM  
karooble: trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

You're not. I think so too. Cut peeners look mutilated to me, like if someone had had their earlobes cut off.


I'd be more offended/disappointed if it wasn't for the fact that you've looked at enough peeners to have an opinion on the matter

 
Molavian 2009-07-17 11:59:02 AM  
trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

Nah, fat chicks usually like black dudes.

 
karooble 2009-07-17 11:59:21 AM  
crm114: I'd be more offended/disappointed if it wasn't for the fact that you've looked at enough peeners to have an opinion on the matter

Through the magic of the internets, we can see infinite peeners from the comfort of our own homes!

 
danny_kay [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:01:45 PM  
GomezAdams: Left my kid uncut.. see earlier posts. Not only does he pee just fine, he can write his name in the sand. In Chinese.

That impresses the hell out of me.
Is he old enough to marry? Me for example?

 
peart2112 2009-07-17 12:02:20 PM  
Sorry circumcision (male or female) = butchery

 
genzoman 2009-07-17 12:02:32 PM  
crm114: genzoman: i can see where this is going:

person 1: HAHA! you sheep follow an invisible sky wizard!11 atheism rulz!!

person 2: you had your penis cut in the same way that the invisible sky wizard told some made up story book character 5000 years ago

person 1: but it protects against AIDS...

0/10 See above image regarding trolling


hey, it was the only way to bring up religion.

 
Gothnet 2009-07-17 12:03:27 PM  
karooble: Through the magic of the internets, we can see infinite peeners from the comfort of our own homes!

You, madam, disgust me! Those men are exploited!

Nah, just kidding. That profile pic's pretty cute too...

 
crm114 2009-07-17 12:04:04 PM  
karooble: crm114: I'd be more offended/disappointed if it wasn't for the fact that you've looked at enough peeners to have an opinion on the matter

Through the magic of the internets, we can see infinite peeners from the comfort of our own homes!


Touche...*looks at karooble's profile*...uh hold on...*googles foreskin reconstruction surgery*

 
EggFool [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:04:15 PM  
Farkwaddle: EggFool: Gwendolyn:

I still need sleep.

Well you're never gonna get it! There's a guy who's been awake since the Second World War!

Wow. That may be the first BNL reference I've ever seen here.


Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 12:05:16 PM  
crm114: karooble: crm114: I'd be more offended/disappointed if it wasn't for the fact that you've looked at enough peeners to have an opinion on the matter

Through the magic of the internets, we can see infinite peeners from the comfort of our own homes!

Touche...*looks at karooble's profile*...uh hold on...*googles foreskin reconstruction surgery*


Surgery? Just do stretches. It'll take a while, but you can stretch it back out. It's kind of cool.

/thanks peen & tellher

 
karooble 2009-07-17 12:08:44 PM  
wyrlss: /thanks peen & tellher

Penn & Teller are some of the coolest performers ever. Does anybody know if Bullsh*t! is going to get a sixth season?

 
mrapier [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:09:35 PM  
griffer: The Icelander: So it may offer some protection

You sound uncut.


You think you're soooooooo funny.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:09:37 PM  
peart2112: Sorry circumcision (male or female) = butchery

Sexy butchery.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:10:14 PM  
mrapier: griffer: The Icelander: So it may offer some protection

You sound uncut.

You think you're soooooooo funny.


I know your gay husband is cut.

 
Silly_Sot 2009-07-17 12:11:12 PM  
These circumcision cultists never cease to amaze me and offend FSM. Why worship cutting the willy wally so much?

 
mrapier [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:11:46 PM  
griffer: mrapier: griffer: The Icelander: So it may offer some protection

You sound uncut.

You think you're soooooooo funny.

I know your gay husband is cut.


and thank god too, I hear you feel more sensations as a cuttee and what with my cavernous vag...I need all the help I can get.

 
Grass Hopper 2009-07-17 12:13:02 PM  
Abandoning my usual rants about circumcision in this case:

FTA "In this study, 922 uncircumcised, HIV-infected, asymptomatic men aged 15-49 years with HIV were enrolled in the Rakai district of Uganda.

Men were then selected to have immediate circumcision (474 men) or to be given circumcision after two years (448 men).

Almost 170 uninfected female partners of the men were also enrolled, and followed up at six, 12, and 24 months. "

Let me get this straight: These actual doctors encouraged men they knew to be HIV positive to continue to have unprotected sex with uninfected females - for the purpose of the study?

These doctors should be stripped of their licences. And then get a further, complete circumcision. And then be shot. That's farkin murder.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 12:13:57 PM  
wyrlss: Surgery? Just do stretches. It'll take a while, but you can stretch it back out. It's kind of cool.

/thanks peen & tellher


teacherseducation.files.wordpress.com

 
Gothnet 2009-07-17 12:14:52 PM  
mrapier: and thank god too, I hear you feel more sensations as a cuttee and what with my cavernous vag...I need all the help I can get.

That would seem not to be the case, With the nerve endings in the skin itself gone and the desensitisation of the head.

I've heard some women say they think the feeling for them is better though.

/Yes, I have had this discussion IRL. It was weird.
//Thankfully everyone was drunk as hell.
///no, not drunk enough for show and tell, thank god

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:15:42 PM  
mrapier: griffer: mrapier: griffer: The Icelander: So it may offer some protection

You sound uncut.

You think you're soooooooo funny.

I know your gay husband is cut.

and thank god too, I hear you feel more sensations as a cuttee and what with my cavernous vag...I need all the help I can get.


I like the curve he has. It's unique and hits my prostate just right.

 
RubberBabyBuggyBumpers 2009-07-17 12:15:43 PM  
Farkwaddle: Crewmannumber6: griffer: Crewmannumber6: That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

You sound uncut.

Ya think? Was born in Ireland but grew up in America where, apparently, they do things a little different

The Jews brainwashed us into thinking penile vanity was important. Wait..wha??


Question for anyone: when a jewish woman has a mastectomy, does she have to wear a cloth tit on her head in temple?

 
Farkwaddle 2009-07-17 12:15:47 PM  
EggFool: Farkwaddle: EggFool: Gwendolyn:

I still need sleep.

Well you're never gonna get it! There's a guy who's been awake since the Second World War!

Wow. That may be the first BNL reference I've ever seen here.

Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?


Unexpected, but completely cromulant to the comment.

 
Farkwaddle 2009-07-17 12:18:01 PM  
RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: Farkwaddle: Crewmannumber6: griffer: Crewmannumber6: That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

You sound uncut.

Ya think? Was born in Ireland but grew up in America where, apparently, they do things a little different

The Jews brainwashed us into thinking penile vanity was important. Wait..wha??

Question for anyone: when a jewish woman has a mastectomy, does she have to wear a cloth tit on her head in temple?


That's an entirely different thread altogether. (insert Airplane! pic here)

 
eggrolls [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:18:14 PM  
GomezAdams: And a PS. I told my son's Jewish pediatrician I wasn't having him cut and he went ballistic. Told me the kid's pecker wouldn't grow straight and said he would get all the diseases. Then he yanked the foreskin trying to tear it so I would have to have it done. I wanted to kill the stupid SOB on the spot but got the kid out of there and found another pediatrician. Should have reported him to the state board. Also told him that millions of years of human evolution occurred before this crap started and no one cuts any other mammal with a foreskin, i.e. horses, monkeys, apes, and for all I know whales and porpoises.

Uhhh, dude, if that's true, you ABSOLUTELY need to have this guy brought up on criminal assault charges, possibly sexual assault charges, never mind that state board crap. A pediatrician who attacks baby penises in order to rend the skin needs to been taken away and locked in a padded room.

 
mrapier [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:18:15 PM  
Gothnet: mrapier: and thank god too, I hear you feel more sensations as a cuttee and what with my cavernous vag...I need all the help I can get.

That would seem not to be the case, With the nerve endings in the skin itself gone and the desensitisation of the head.

I've heard some women say they think the feeling for them is better though.

/Yes, I have had this discussion IRL. It was weird.
//Thankfully everyone was drunk as hell.
///no, not drunk enough for show and tell, thank god


I got the information for that Dr. Oz guy on Oprah, he said the head is more sensitive because the skin is not there to "protect" it.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:18:37 PM  
Gothnet: desensitisation of the head.

You can use ultra fine sandpaper to remove some skin from the glans and heighten sensitivity.

 
mrapier [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:19:06 PM  
griffer: mrapier: griffer: mrapier: griffer: The Icelander: So it may offer some protection

You sound uncut.

You think you're soooooooo funny.

I know your gay husband is cut.

and thank god too, I hear you feel more sensations as a cuttee and what with my cavernous vag...I need all the help I can get.

I like the curve he has. It's unique and hits my prostate just right.


oh my god.

:)

 
Hyperbolic Hyperbole [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:21:18 PM  
circumcision for vanity reasons is stupid. you have a giant scar around your cock and its ugly.

makes as much sense as cutting off nipples.

 
mrapier [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:22:12 PM  
Hyperbolic Hyperbole: circumcision for vanity reasons is stupid. you have a giant scar around your cock and its ugly.

makes as much sense as cutting off nipples.


should I have not done that?

 
Gothnet 2009-07-17 12:22:18 PM  
mrapier: I got the information for that Dr. Oz guy on Oprah, he said the head is more sensitive because the skin is not there to "protect" it.

Well, I wouldn't know for sure, I'm not in a position to do a comparative study, but that sounds bogus.

FYI the foreskin sorta recedes a bit when you're ready to go and rolls back and forth during sex, it's not like it's fixed and covers the head totally or constantly. The converse I've heard is that having it constantly exposed to the rubbing of your clothes desensitizes it over time.

 
Crewmannumber6 2009-07-17 12:23:15 PM  
trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

*ahem*......How YOU doin'?

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:24:32 PM  
Gothnet: FYI the foreskin sorta recedes a bit when you're ready to go

You sound uncut.

 
mungo 2009-07-17 12:24:38 PM  
Here in the UK the default is to keep the foreskin on, and circumcision is seen as very much a Jewish thing.

Thus as someone who is totally intact, I can personally attest that the foreskin is full of sexual nerves and is very much part of my sexual experience. Removing it from a little boy either for vicarious vanity or because you follow Abrahams instructions despite not being a jew (and even if you are, frankly) is sexual assault, resulting in permanent damage to the sexual capacity of the penis. It's that simple.

 
Gothnet 2009-07-17 12:24:38 PM  
griffer: You can use ultra fine sandpaper to remove some skin from the glans and heighten sensitivity.

i32.tinypic.com

 
Hyperbolic Hyperbole [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:24:45 PM  
mrapier: Hyperbolic Hyperbole: circumcision for vanity reasons is stupid. you have a giant scar around your cock and its ugly.

makes as much sense as cutting off nipples.

should I have not done that?


I have something of an inability not to find it cute when *you* do it.

 
Farkwaddle 2009-07-17 12:25:07 PM  
griffer: Gothnet: desensitisation of the head.

You can use ultra fine sandpaper to remove some skin from the glans and heighten sensitivity.


Oh...Dear...Lord. You have no idea how my peen and I hate you right now.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:25:47 PM  
WEIRD AND GAY ALERT

 
Hyperbolic Hyperbole [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:26:22 PM  
griffer sounds like he's cataloguing penises.

/let me have your list when youre done

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:26:59 PM  
griffer: You can use ultra fine sandpaper to remove some skin from the glans and heighten sensitivity.

We're going to have a story about some guy getting his schlong stuck in the sander now...

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:27:05 PM  
hockeyfarker: WEIRD AND GAY ALERT

WHAT?

www.ashleysaunders.com

 
mrapier [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:27:29 PM  
hockeyfarker: WEIRD AND GAY ALERT

wee oh wee oh wee oh

 
spman [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:27:34 PM  
karooble: wyrlss: /thanks peen & tellher

Penn & Teller are some of the coolest performers ever. Does anybody know if Bullsh*t! is going to get a sixth season?


The new season has been airing for 4 weeks now

I'm on the pro circumcision side of the debate only because their seems to be some sort of social stigma against uncut weeners in this country. Don't want the future children to get cock blocked by some whore who doesn't realize what it's really supposed to look like, and refuses to go near it.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:28:51 PM  
spman: I'm on the pro circumcision side of the debate

...because this is DEFINITELY something that should not be undertaken by amateurs...

 
stuhayes2010 [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:29:15 PM  
crm114: wyrlss: Surgery? Just do stretches. It'll take a while, but you can stretch it back out. It's kind of cool.

/thanks peen & tellher


Once its gone its gone. There are more nerves per square inch in a foreskin than in your lips. You can't grow that back or stretch it out.

 
MK-Ultra71 2009-07-17 12:29:31 PM  
I'm cut and I bear no one ill will over my lack of fore skin. Sex is great. This whole mutilation defense for males would work if a lot of guys weren't exactly like me. I'm not mutilated so its not mutilation.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:29:44 PM  
spman: Don't want the future children to get cock blocked by some whore who doesn't realize what it's really supposed to look like, and refuses to go near it.

In Africa, they lovingly scoop out girls clitorises with hot spoon, to ensure they will get a good husband and not get rejected for being whole and unmutilated.

 
Gothnet 2009-07-17 12:29:54 PM  
spman: Don't want the future children to get cock blocked by some whore who doesn't realize what it's really supposed to look like, and refuses to go near it.

I understood the "mix" in the US was getting more varied.

Either way, she ain't worth it!

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 12:30:16 PM  
spman: karooble: wyrlss: /thanks peen & tellher

Penn & Teller are some of the coolest performers ever. Does anybody know if Bullsh*t! is going to get a sixth season?

The new season has been airing for 4 weeks now

I'm on the pro circumcision side of the debate only because their seems to be some sort of social stigma against uncut weeners in this country. Don't want the future children to get cock blocked by some whore who doesn't realize what it's really supposed to look like, and refuses to go near it.


You know how sometimes, people are genetically farking stupid, so that your kid shouldn't be banging them anyway despite the fact they're fantastically hot? Yeah, if she's so stupid she doesn't know what a dick actually looks like, your kid doesn't need to bang her.

 
mrapier [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:30:55 PM  
I like the cut of your jib

 
Hyperbolic Hyperbole [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:32:09 PM  
mrapier: wee oh wee oh wee oh

If I miss TF, it's because of you and people like you.

 
ZannSu 2009-07-17 12:32:25 PM  
Gothnet: mrapier: I got the information for that Dr. Oz guy on Oprah, he said the head is more sensitive because the skin is not there to "protect" it.

Well, I wouldn't know for sure, I'm not in a position to do a comparative study, but that sounds bogus.

FYI the foreskin sorta recedes a bit when you're ready to go and rolls back and forth during sex, it's not like it's fixed and covers the head totally or constantly. The converse I've heard is that having it constantly exposed to the rubbing of your clothes desensitizes it over time.


So then cut guys tend to last longer... got it.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:32:34 PM  
spman: Don't want the future children to get cock blocked by some whore who doesn't realize what it's really supposed to look like, and refuses to go near it.

If you don't teach your son to get her more drunk than that, it's your failing as a parent.

 
HoratioGates 2009-07-17 12:32:42 PM  
I bet if they did a study where they just cut the whole penis off they would get a much lower transmission rate. They might get fewer volunteers. I'm not sure how they got so many volunteers in the first place.

Cut off all penises! Cure aids! Start with all the dicks in the Fark thread!

Wait! What?

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:32:46 PM  
mrapier: hockeyfarker: WEIRD AND GAY ALERT

wee oh wee oh wee oh


i159.photobucket.com

 
MK-Ultra71 2009-07-17 12:32:48 PM  
How does one make the leap from circumcising males in North America to circumcising females in Africa? I'm just curious how that thought process workes.

/cut
//two sons, both cut.

 
attention span of a retarded fruit fly 2009-07-17 12:34:42 PM  
Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

Win ! did the same thing its up to them its not my peener

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:34:56 PM  
MK-Ultra71: How does one make the leap from circumcising males in North America to circumcising females in Africa? I'm just curious how that thought process workes.

/cut
//two sons, both cut.


It's body mutilation based on taboos, body image and sexual shame.

There is no medical reason to do it, and ultimately you are doing it without the child mature consent.

 
Gothnet 2009-07-17 12:35:19 PM  
ZannSu: So then cut guys tend to last longer... got it.

That's a whole other scientific study I've not done. Could be true, might not be.As I said, I've met at least one woman that preferred the feeling of a cut guy to an uncut guy. Much to the disappointment of her fiance who was in the room at the time we were having this conversation.

YMMV.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:35:47 PM  
attention span of a retarded fruit fly: Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

Win ! did the same thing its up to them its not my peener


MK-Ultra71, please see above.

 
Heamer 2009-07-17 12:36:47 PM  
If I ever have a son, I'm going to leave him uncut, like me. I'll instruct him in the ways of proper foreskin hygiene, and he'll wind up being a normal, healthy, sexually active adult, like me. If you want to cut the tip of your kid's dick off, by all means, do it. But you'll never convince me to do it with my kid, ever.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:36:56 PM  
But most importantly, you know who else hated circumsiscion?

 
Gothnet 2009-07-17 12:38:24 PM  
griffer: But most importantly, you know who else hated circumsiscion?

Was it He-Man?

 
T.rex 2009-07-17 12:38:46 PM  
Its such a ridiculous concept in the first place. The control study to show that circumcized men are less prone to get hiv was done where hiv is already rampant, and where no one is circumcized. Of course, the numbers will be seemingly high, but as all you vaccination freaks love to say 'correlation does not equal causation'.

Simple fact, every 20 years or so, the powers that be try to force circumcision, citing a new reason why. Today's topic of the day is hiv/aids so that is the reason why.

Hey, i'm not anti-circumcision, but its pretty bogus to manipulate studies to push a political agenda.

 
mrapier [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:39:03 PM  
griffer: But most importantly, you know who else hated circumsiscion?

My uncle?

 
ZannSu 2009-07-17 12:39:24 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: spman: I'm on the pro circumcision side of the debate

...because this is DEFINITELY something that should not be undertaken by amateurs...


Teehee :)

 
mrapier [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:40:36 PM  
Hyperbolic Hyperbole: mrapier: wee oh wee oh wee oh

If I miss TF, it's because of you and people like you.



You're a sweet talker but I'm saving my $5 for a cheap beer after work.

/if you're ever in NYC I'm pouring you a cab

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:41:33 PM  
RE-TARD-ED: From the WIKI

Non-religious circumcision in the English-speaking world
Infant circumcision was taken up in the United States, Australia and the English-speaking parts of Canada, South Africa, New Zealand and to a lesser extent in the United Kingdom. There are several hypotheses to explain why infant circumcision was accepted in the United States about the year 1900. The germ theory of disease elicited an image of the human body as a conveyance for many dangerous germs, making the public "germ phobic" and suspicious of dirt and bodily secretions. The penis became "dirty" by association with its function, and from this premise circumcision was seen as preventative medicine to be practiced universally.[20] In the view of many practitioners at the time, circumcision was a method of treating and preventing masturbation.[20] Aggleton wrote that John Kellogg viewed male circumcision in this way, and further "advocated an unashamedly punitive approach."[21] Circumcision was also said to protect against syphilis,[22] phimosis, paraphimosis, balanitis, and "excessive venery" (which was believed to produce paralysis).[20] Gollaher states that physicians advocating circumcision in the late nineteenth century expected public skepticism, and refined their arguments to overcome it.[20]
Although it is difficult to determine historical circumcision rates, one estimate of infant circumcision rates in the United States holds that 32% of newborn American boys were being circumcised in 1933.[23] Laumann et al. reported that the prevalence of circumcision among US-born males was approximately 70%, 80%, 85%, and 77% for those born in 1945, 1955, 1965, and 1971 respectively.[23] Xu et al. reported that the prevalence of circumcision among US-born males was 91% for males born in the 1970s and 84% for those born in the 1980s.[24] Between 1981 and 1999, National Hospital Discharge Survey data from the National Center for Health Statistics demonstrated that the infant circumcision rate remained relatively stable within the 60% range, with a minimum of 60.7% in 1988 and a maximum of 67.8% in 1995.[25] A 1987 study found that the most prominent reasons US parents choose circumcision were "concerns about the attitudes of peers and their sons' self concept in the future," rather than medical concerns.[26] However, a later study speculated that an increased recognition of the potential benefits of neonatal circumcision may have been responsible for the observed increase in the US rate between 1988 and 2000.[27] A report by the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality placed the 2005 national circumcision rate at 56%.[28]
In 1949, the United Kingdom's newly-formed National Health Service removed infant circumcision from its list of covered services, and circumcision has since been an out-of-pocket cost to parents. As a result, prevalence in the UK is age-graded, with 12% of those aged 16-19 years circumcised and 20% of those aged 40-44 years,[29] and the proportion of newborns circumcised in England and Wales has fallen to less than one percent.
The circumcision rate has declined sharply in Australia since the 1970s, leading to an age-graded fall in prevalence, with a 2000-01 survey finding 32% of those aged 16-19 years circumcised, 50% for 20-29 years and 64% for those aged 30-39 years.[30][31]
In Canada, individual provincial health services began delisting circumcision in the 1980s.[citation needed]

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:42:24 PM  
mrapier: griffer: But most importantly, you know who else hated circumsiscion?

My uncle?


Is he a Nazi?

 
sdaas 2009-07-17 12:42:30 PM  
Heamer: If I ever have a son, I'm going to leave him uncut, like me. I'll instruct him in the ways of proper foreskin hygiene, and he'll wind up being a normal, healthy, sexually active adult, like me. If you want to cut the tip of your kid's dick off, by all means, do it. But you'll never convince me to do it with my kid, ever.

Theres... proper hygiene.....

 
Hyperbolic Hyperbole [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:42:34 PM  
mrapier: Hyperbolic Hyperbole: mrapier: wee oh wee oh wee oh

If I miss TF, it's because of you and people like you.


You're a sweet talker but I'm saving my $5 for a cheap beer after work.

/if you're ever in NYC I'm pouring you a cab


Were I fishing for TF, I'd have had it by now.

/I'll be sure to announce any plans to go to NYC

 
Mayhem of the Black Underclass 2009-07-17 12:42:54 PM  
CUT.

Look up Rambam's theory on why the old school jews did this. It sounds like his opinion is that the whole Abrahamic god is a cover for a lot of rational thoughts. Like you're supposed to receive less pleasure and therefor be more studious.

I'd like to know of anyone who had some sex > 100 times uncircumcised and some sex > 100 times and get them to tell us if there was a great difference in the feeling.

I'd also like to know (via scientific survey) how women who have been with both circ'ed and uncirc'ed men feel about them. (Women who have only been with one type of man seem to irrationally fear the other type) Also if there is a striking difference in sexual pleasure derived from the types of penii, or alternately if there are differences in sexual adventurism in the man (from her perspective)

Had my three sons cut as well.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:45:12 PM  
Mayhem of the Black Underclass: CUT.

Look up Rambam's theory on why the old school jews did this. It sounds like his opinion is that the whole Abrahamic god is a cover for a lot of rational thoughts. Like you're supposed to receive less pleasure and therefor be more studious.

I'd like to know of anyone who had some sex > 100 times uncircumcised and some sex > 100 times and get them to tell us if there was a great difference in the feeling.

I'd also like to know (via scientific survey) how women who have been with both circ'ed and uncirc'ed men feel about them. (Women who have only been with one type of man seem to irrationally fear the other type) Also if there is a striking difference in sexual pleasure derived from the types of penii, or alternately if there are differences in sexual adventurism in the man (from her perspective)

Had my three sons cut as well.


i153.photobucket.com

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:48:41 PM  
Mayhem of the Black Underclass: Like you're supposed to receive less pleasure and therefor be more studious.

I think I'd prefer my son to learn to control himself without chopping off part of his pecker.

 
MK-Ultra71 2009-07-17 12:48:54 PM  
MK-Ultra71, please see above.

If I thought the act of circumcision was in anyway harmful I would not have done it. I don't so I did. I'm cut and don't see the big deal.

 
Heamer 2009-07-17 12:48:54 PM  
sdaas: Theres... proper hygiene.....

You better believe it, man.

 
mrapier [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:49:38 PM  
Hyperbolic Hyperbole: mrapier: Hyperbolic Hyperbole: mrapier: wee oh wee oh wee oh

If I miss TF, it's because of you and people like you.


You're a sweet talker but I'm saving my $5 for a cheap beer after work.

/if you're ever in NYC I'm pouring you a cab

Were I fishing for TF, I'd have had it by now.

/I'll be sure to announce any plans to go to NYC


I know, they're crying about your not being there

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 12:50:42 PM  
Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

 
The Envoy 2009-07-17 12:51:19 PM  
griffer sounds like a circumcised bloke stole his woman because she preferred the cut dick.

 
Farkwaddle 2009-07-17 12:51:32 PM  
I don't remember Kellog saying anything about circumcision in "The Road to Wellville"!

/An erection is a flagpole on your grave!

 
Jubeebee 2009-07-17 12:51:34 PM  
Pinner: It does sometimes. Kind of like running the garden hose on full blast. With your fingers over the end.

Uh, what?

I don't know what kind of wizard sleeves you guys have going on, but I'm uncut and the foreskin barely more than halfway past the head.


img.photobucket.com

What symbolism for an uncut phallus may look like.

 
Hyperbolic Hyperbole [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 12:52:00 PM  
mrapier: I know, they're crying about your not being there

oh, they are NOT.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 12:53:17 PM  
T.rex: Its such a ridiculous concept in the first place. The control study to show that circumcized men are less prone to get hiv was done where hiv is already rampant, and where no one is circumcized. Of course, the numbers will be seemingly high, but as all you vaccination freaks love to say 'correlation does not equal causation'.

Simple fact, every 20 years or so, the powers that be try to force circumcision, citing a new reason why. Today's topic of the day is hiv/aids so that is the reason why.

Hey, i'm not anti-circumcision, but its pretty bogus to manipulate studies to push a political agenda.


How is circumcision a political agenda? I'm confuzzled

 
crm114 2009-07-17 12:54:17 PM  
CrazyCracka420: That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

THIS

If a woman demands you get circumcised for her you better get BJs or sex whenever/however/wherever you demand it for the rest of your life in return

 
Momzilla59 2009-07-17 12:54:44 PM  
"He only took tips"

i3.photobucket.com


/obscure?

 
zoips 2009-07-17 12:55:34 PM  
CrazyCracka420: How is circumcision a political agenda? I'm confuzzled

Well, it's not been a scientific agenda for quite a while, at least where we all live, here in the first world with running water and daily bathing.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 12:56:32 PM  
Jubeebee: Pinner:
What symbolism for an uncut phallus may look like.


Yep, something that gets licked often...

 
foo monkey 2009-07-17 12:56:37 PM  
Mayhem of the Black Underclass: CUT.


Had my three sons cut as well.


I hope they forgive you.

 
GoatEwHelenWate 2009-07-17 12:56:52 PM  
karooble: trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

You're not. I think so too. Cut peeners look mutilated to me, like if someone had had their earlobes cut off.


There are at least three of us. I like the uncut ones because the cut ones have weird scars on them.

 
bride_of_adam_cole 2009-07-17 12:57:35 PM  
I'm kind of thankful that I was circumsized. After all, I'm able to open the window and let a breeze roll in...

which makes me:

sp0.fotolog.com
JIZZ IN MY PANTS!

 
sdaas 2009-07-17 12:58:22 PM  
Heamer: sdaas: Theres... proper hygiene.....

You better believe it, man.


And now It makes complete since why they used to cut it back in the day.

 
thenateman 2009-07-17 12:58:33 PM  
Suddenly I'm craving penis.

 
old_toole 2009-07-17 12:59:00 PM  
Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

First good use for that thing I've heard of.

But I call BS 'cause an ex of mine dipped my junk in a shot of Goldschlagger and it burned like hell.
Won't do THAT again.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 12:59:10 PM  
GoatEwHelenWate: There are at least three of us. I like the uncut ones because the cut ones have weird scars on them.

You study them that closely and intently? Really?

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 12:59:16 PM  
It's about aesthetics to me, I'm circ'ed, I like the clean/smooth look, and can't imagine having a flap of skin there. That being said, if you're not circ'ed, who cares, I wouldn't ever go out and get circ'ed if my parents didn't do me the favor when I was a little baby.

And from what I can tell from the series of tubes, and past gf's, is that it makes no difference at all for the vast majority (which I don't know why it would).

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:01:02 PM  
zoips: CrazyCracka420: How is circumcision a political agenda? I'm confuzzled

Well, it's not been a scientific agenda for quite a while, at least where we all live, here in the first world with running water and daily bathing.


So it not being a scientific agenda makes it political? I'm confused...I just think it's what's ingrained in people, is what they are comfortable with, or what they are used to seeing. I guess I didn't realize there was this big pro-circumcision conspiracy that's sweeping the globe.

 
foo monkey 2009-07-17 01:01:09 PM  
CrazyCracka420: That being said, if you're not circ'ed, who cares, I wouldn't ever go out and get circ'ed if my parents didn't do me the favor when I was a little baby.
.


They didn't do you a favor.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:01:28 PM  
The Envoy: griffer sounds like a circumcised bloke stole his woman because she preferred the cut dick.

Nope, I'm cut.

Really, really wish my parents hadn't though.

MK-Ultra71, please see above.

 
Lumpmoose [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:01:30 PM  
Jubeebee: Pinner: It does sometimes. Kind of like running the garden hose on full blast. With your fingers over the end.

Uh, what?

I don't know what kind of wizard sleeves you guys have going on, but I'm uncut and the foreskin barely more than halfway past the head.

What symbolism for an uncut phallus may look like.


Look up phimosis. That's not far enough, but there are non-surgical solutions that American circumcision-happy doctors don't know about.

 
The Envoy 2009-07-17 01:01:39 PM  
CrazyCracka420: That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

I was in hospital with a 15 year old who had to have a circumcision for medical reasons. I was only 7, but I remember that poor kid's pain. He moaned, cried and screamed most of the time. I had surgery on my balls (undescended testicle) and I got off lightly compared to him. Doing it later in life is certainly not an option anybody not in medical strife chooses.

Also, what's all this shiate about terrible scars? I must have had a good doctor, because I never even knew there was scarring until I read a Fark thread where someone had obviously seen a Freddie Krueger knob and thought that was how they all were.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 01:02:32 PM  
foo monkey: CrazyCracka420: That being said, if you're not circ'ed, who cares, I wouldn't ever go out and get circ'ed if my parents didn't do me the favor when I was a little baby.
.

They didn't do you a favor
, in MY opinion

FTFY

 
Edd17 2009-07-17 01:02:43 PM  
CrazyCracka420: That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

Surely they would realise how circumcision is superior and get it done? They do have a choice, it is still there and they can choose to have it removed. If they have phimosis (that cannot be resolved with steroids)/get bored of giving it a rub every morning in the shower/convert to judaism/just fancy a change, they can have it done. If you get them cut and they decide they didn't like it that way, they cannot get it reversed (stretching skin back over the head is nothing like the real thing).

I don't know how you can say that no one in their right mind would get it done to themselves and then say you would have it done to someone else.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:02:58 PM  
foo monkey: CrazyCracka420: That being said, if you're not circ'ed, who cares, I wouldn't ever go out and get circ'ed if my parents didn't do me the favor when I was a little baby.
.

They didn't do you a favor.


They did, because I like the look, and there's no wind resistance, so easier to pound away ;)

That being said, did you read the rest of my post? It really doesn't matter one way or the other, but I have a preference for the clean look.

 
FatSteveWasted [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:03:16 PM  
I've got the most sanctified johnson in all of Louisiana.

/no shiat
//RIP FZ

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:03:24 PM  
When my parents need my help in their old age, I will whip out my mangle, mutilate, sanded, stretched schlong and tell them to fark off.

 
someahole 2009-07-17 01:03:48 PM  
spman: karooble: wyrlss: /thanks peen & tellher

Penn & Teller are some of the coolest performers ever. Does anybody know if Bullsh*t! is going to get a sixth season?

The new season has been airing for 4 weeks now

I'm on the pro circumcision side of the debate only because their seems to be some sort of social stigma against uncut weeners in this country. Don't want the future children to get cock blocked by some whore who doesn't realize what it's really supposed to look like, and refuses to go near it.


Back in college I had a roommate that was uncut. He confessed that he felt that it was definitely a detriment to his sex life. Not only did many US women find it unnerving, but he was also constantly getting yeast infections. At one point he confessed that he and his girlfriend had been passing back and forth the same yeast infection for several months.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:05:06 PM  
Edd17: CrazyCracka420: That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

Surely they would realise how circumcision is superior and get it done? They do have a choice, it is still there and they can choose to have it removed. If they have phimosis (that cannot be resolved with steroids)/get bored of giving it a rub every morning in the shower/convert to judaism/just fancy a change, they can have it done. If you get them cut and they decide they didn't like it that way, they cannot get it reversed (stretching skin back over the head is nothing like the real thing).

I don't know how you can say that no one in their right mind would get it done to themselves and then say you would have it done to someone else.


You're a f*cking moron...

Doing it to a baby is different than having a grown man get circ'ed. Adult male circumcision is hell, you get a boner and you can get the stitches to come out...it's painful, and you have a doc coming at your penis with a knife.

Parents are deciding for their kids whether or not they'll be circ'ed for life. If you circ them, or not, I can tell you they won't get the procedure done later in life (there's no point in doing it, unless it's medical).

 
crm114 2009-07-17 01:05:20 PM  
The Envoy: Also, what's all this shiate about terrible scars? I must have had a good doctor, because I never even knew there was scarring until I read a Fark thread where someone had obviously seen a Freddie Krueger knob and thought that was how they all were.

I've been wondering that as well, mine is as smooth, immaculate, and beautiful as a Roman column.

 
Smarshmallow 2009-07-17 01:05:26 PM  
crm114: Smarshmallow: Right. If the kid won't remember it, it isn't traumatic. I think that you'll have a lot of support for this theory among the Catholic priesthood.

How was that a troll? I'm surprised that nobody has explained this to you, but you disagreeing with a statement doesn't make that statement a troll. Some people find genital mutilation disgusting. My wife's a nurse, and was pro-circumcision until she actually saw one performed.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:05:57 PM  
MK-Ultra71: This whole mutilation defense for males would work if a lot of guys weren't exactly like me. I'm not mutilated so its not mutilation.

Lots of other guys are white, therefore Im not white.

Great logic there sparky.

// sounds like part of your brain was severed too

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:06:32 PM  
someahole: At one point he confessed that he and his girlfriend had been passing back and forth the same yeast infection for several months.

Love bread.

 
sdaas 2009-07-17 01:06:48 PM  
Slartibartfaster: MK-Ultra71: This whole mutilation defense for males would work if a lot of guys weren't exactly like me. I'm not mutilated so its not mutilation.

Lots of other guys are white, therefore Im not white.

Great logic there sparky.

// sounds like part of your brain was severed too


And at that point I would get cut.

/uncut

 
Isuldirs 2009-07-17 01:07:13 PM  
I am cut. My son (who will be born within the week), will also be cut.


/That is all.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:07:28 PM  
Slartibartfaster: MK-Ultra71: This whole mutilation defense for males would work if a lot of guys weren't exactly like me. I'm not mutilated so its not mutilation.

Lots of other guys are white, therefore Im not white.

Great logic there sparky.

// sounds like part of your brain was severed too


I bet he declaws his cats, too.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:07:39 PM  
Smarshmallow: crm114: Smarshmallow: Right. If the kid won't remember it, it isn't traumatic. I think that you'll have a lot of support for this theory among the Catholic priesthood.

How was that a troll? I'm surprised that nobody has explained this to you, but you disagreeing with a statement doesn't make that statement a troll. Some people find genital mutilation disgusting. My wife's a nurse, and was pro-circumcision until she actually saw one performed.


How hard is it to snip off some excess skin and sew it back up? It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:08:04 PM  
Isuldirs: will also be cut.

*shudders*

 
zoips 2009-07-17 01:08:53 PM  
The Envoy:
Also, what's all this shiate about terrible scars? I must have had a good doctor, because I never even knew there was scarring until I read a Fark thread where someone had obviously seen a Freddie Krueger knob and thought that was how they all were.


Maybe my circumcision was done by a crappy doctor (wouldn't surprise me), but I have no problem seeing where my foreskin was removed; there's a pretty obvious band of scar tissue. That being said, I can see the exact same thing on every single cut guy in porn also *insert ghey joke here*. So yeah, if you're cut, I'm pretty sure you'll have a pretty damn obvious band of scar tissue on your dick.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:09:01 PM  
CrazyCracka420: It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

And if society thought a left foot was useless and ugly, would you cut that off too?

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 01:09:34 PM  
This thread is worth less without pics.

 
Smarshmallow 2009-07-17 01:09:37 PM  
CrazyCracka420: That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

Jesus, that's some of the worst logic that I've ever seen.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:09:52 PM  
griffer: Isuldirs: will also be cut.

*shudders*


It's a f*cking baby...he won't remember and there won't be any lasting effects, other than a penis that's streamlined for efficient f*cking. Plus, in countries like the US, it's the norm. Most women can get over it, but there are some who can't get over a non-circ'ed penis.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:09:54 PM  
Let's talk about dicks some more.

YUMMY!

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:10:01 PM  
CrazyCracka420: It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

...and make sure it doesn't get out? :D

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:10:30 PM  
CrazyCracka420: griffer: Isuldirs: will also be cut.

*shudders*

It's a f*cking baby...he won't remember and there won't be any lasting effects, other than a penis that's streamlined for efficient f*cking. Plus, in countries like the US, it's the norm. Most women can get over it, but there are some who can't get over a non-circ'ed penis.


Only in the US. Only.

And not for much longer.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:10:30 PM  
griffer: CrazyCracka420: It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

And if society thought a left foot was useless and ugly, would you cut that off too?


Considering it's not useless, or ugly, I would not. How is cutting off some excess skin a big deal?

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:11:05 PM  
attention thread, the weird and gay threat level is PINK, repeat, we are at code PINK

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:11:08 PM  
Isuldirs: /That is all.

he's gonna have a great life

// anything else ya want chopped off him ? I hear chicks hate ear lobes.

 
sdaas 2009-07-17 01:11:35 PM  
griffer: CrazyCracka420: It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

And if society thought a left foot was useless and ugly, would you cut that off too?


If I got one of those cool running legs then yes.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:11:36 PM  
CrazyCracka420: and there won't be any lasting effects, other than a penis that's streamlined for efficient f*cking.

efficient f*cking?

You sound like the Protestants from the Every Sperm is Sacred sketch from Meaning of Life...

 
DIGITALgimpus 2009-07-17 01:12:14 PM  
The Envoy: I was in hospital with a 15 year old who had to have a circumcision for medical reasons. I was only 7, but I remember that poor kid's pain. He moaned, cried and screamed most of the time. I had surgery on my balls (undescended testicle) and I got off lightly compared to him. Doing it later in life is certainly not an option anybody not in medical strife chooses.

This I think is likely one of the best arguments for it. All evidence suggests infants forget about it hours later. But as an adult it requires a morphine drip to dull the pain just a little.

Hygiene isn't such a big issue, though you never know what the future holds. 18 months ago a bunch of people thought they were living the good life with multiple cars and big homes... now their cars and homes are gone and they live in subsidized motel rooms....
I guess it is possible anyone in any circumstances could end up in a bad way... likely? Guess that depends on how much faith you have in the economy and your government. Will Obama protect your penis?

 
zoips 2009-07-17 01:12:31 PM  
CrazyCracka420: griffer: CrazyCracka420: It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

And if society thought a left foot was useless and ugly, would you cut that off too?

Considering it's not useless, or ugly, I would not. How is cutting off some excess skin a big deal?


That excess skin that got cut off has more nerve endings than the rest of the skin left on your dick. But I imagine you still think it's useless.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:12:35 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Considering it's not useless, or ugly, I would not.

That's like your opinion.

What about ears? The point is, there is no reason to do it.

Other than conformity.

And it damages the sexual function of the penis. This is medical fact.

BUT KEEP ON CUTTING YOUR SINS DICKS BECAUSE YOU HAD YOUR MANGLED!

The foreskin of the father are not tolerated on the son, either, i see.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 01:12:52 PM  
Smarshmallow: crm114: Smarshmallow: Right. If the kid won't remember it, it isn't traumatic. I think that you'll have a lot of support for this theory among the Catholic priesthood.

How was that a troll? I'm surprised that nobody has explained this to you, but you disagreeing with a statement doesn't make that statement a troll. Some people find genital mutilation disgusting. My wife's a nurse, and was pro-circumcision until she actually saw one performed.


It wasn't the disagreement that was a troll, it was bringing up the Catholic priesthood abuse when it had nothing to do with the subject at hand. Those cases involve alter boys and such who, quite obviously, can remember the abuse and thus talk about it. I don't know one person who was circumcised as a baby and remembers the pain or trauma, and to equate circumcision with sexual abuse is pretty damn retarded in terms of long term effects and the motivation behind them.

/damn you for making me be serious in a thread that's this much fun...for God's sake I got to type the phrase "take a tequila shot out of your penis" earlier

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:12:55 PM  
CrazyCracka420: streamlined for efficient f*cking

errr

ya know the foreskin is there for a reason right ?

something about .... well I guess you will never know.

(do uncut guys not realize that it unfurls itself when required ?!?, like the well made tool it is)

 
mrapier [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:13:03 PM  
thenateman: Suddenly I'm craving penis.

Me too. Just the tip though.

 
Jubeebee 2009-07-17 01:13:10 PM  
Lumpmoose:

Look up phimosis. That's not far enough, but there are non-surgical solutions that American circumcision-happy doctors don't know about.


It's plenty far enough. Never had any discomfort with it.

I remember when I was a kid it could go all the way over the tip, but I'd have to stretch it to get it there now.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:13:35 PM  
DIGITALgimpus: Hygiene isn't such a big issue, though you never know what the future holds. 18 months ago a bunch of people thought they were living the good life with multiple cars and big homes... now their cars and homes are gone and they live in subsidized motel rooms....

Well, perhaps they could sell the kid's extra dick-skin to pay some bills...

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:13:52 PM  
SONS, YOURS.

/durr

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:13:56 PM  
Smarshmallow: CrazyCracka420: That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

Jesus, that's some of the worst logic that I've ever seen.


How is that bad logic? I don't think any adult male in their right mind would get circumcised, and that's including those like myself, who are circ'ed already (if we were to pretend we weren't). If that's the case (which I guarantee it is), then how is it giving your baby a choice to leave them uncircumcised? They aren't going to go out and get circ'ed, because (as I already said, and I think any male would agree), a dude's not gonna go out and let a doc come at his penis with a knife. The post-op is horrible for circumcision, the only way someone would do it as an adult, is for medical reasons.

You can argue all you want about whether or not to circ your baby, but don't give me the copout that "you're giving them a choice", that's bullsh*t, and anyone in their right mind knows it.

 
Isuldirs 2009-07-17 01:14:05 PM  
Slartibartfaster: he's gonna have a great life

I had one. Got two loving parents who make a great living, chances to travel, and a dink like his Pops. He will have a great life.

anything else ya want chopped off him ? I hear chicks hate ear lobes.

Wow. Over dramatize much?

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:14:10 PM  
Jubeebee: I remember when I was a kid it could go all the way over the tip, but I'd have to stretch it to get it there now.

Or jump into cold water.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:14:33 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: CrazyCracka420: and there won't be any lasting effects, other than a penis that's streamlined for efficient f*cking.

efficient f*cking?

You sound like the Protestants from the Every Sperm is Sacred sketch from Meaning of Life...


It's a joke...I put racing stripes on my penis too. Less wind resistance.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:14:39 PM  
Slartibartfaster: do uncut guys not realize that it unfurls itself when required ?!?

Americans is dumb.

 
karooble 2009-07-17 01:14:45 PM  
someahole: Back in college I had a roommate that was uncut. He confessed that he felt that it was definitely a detriment to his sex life. Not only did many US women find it unnerving, but he was also constantly getting yeast infections. At one point he confessed that he and his girlfriend had been passing back and forth the same yeast infection for several months.

As is usual in cases like this, it seems that his problem was not being uncut, but simply poor hygiene (either that or his girl was a damn nasty skank). Seriously, if you're uncut, just wash it. It's really not any bigger of a deal than a woman having to manage her constantly-moist parts. Moist and covered doesn't mean gross and stanky.

 
Jubeebee 2009-07-17 01:15:40 PM  
griffer: Let's talk about dicks some more.

YUMMY!


PENIS PENIS PENIS

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:15:50 PM  
CrazyCracka420: It's a joke...I put racing stripes on my penis too. Less wind resistance.

Yeah, but also plenty of women scouring the internet trying to figure out what disease gives you read lines down your shaft :D

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:15:52 PM  
CrazyCracka420: It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

yea it is

// stay the hell away from my cat too

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:16:28 PM  
CrazyCracka420: I put racing stripes on my penis

Nope, the mohel put that stripe there for you.

 
GoatEwHelenWate 2009-07-17 01:16:46 PM  
crm114: GoatEwHelenWate: There are at least three of us. I like the uncut ones because the cut ones have weird scars on them.

You study them that closely and intently? Really?


I look very carefully at everything that goes in my mouth. Really.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:17:04 PM  
Jubeebee: griffer: Let's talk about dicks some more.

YUMMY!

PENIS PENIS PENIS


LABIA! LABIA! LABIA!

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:17:06 PM  
From USA Today:

Women whose sexual partners are circumcised are less likely to develop cervical cancer than the partners of uncircumcised men, concludes a report out today.

The difference was statistically significant only in the partners of men considered to be at high risk for infection with human papillomavirus, or HPV, according to the study in The New England Journal of Medicine. Such men had had at least six sexual partners in their lifetime, beginning before age 17.

HPV causes genital warts in men and women, and certain strains cause virtually all cervical cancers. HPV also has been linked to cancers of the vagina, anus and penis.

The new report is based on 1,913 couples in five countries. All were married or in a stable relationship for at least six months. Half of the women had cervical cancer, and 370 of the men were circumcised. Worldwide, an estimated one in four men are circumcised.

Researchers interviewed all of the men and got samples of penile cells from 1,524. The scientists tested the samples for HPV.

After accounting for such factors as age at first intercourse and lifetime number of sexual partners, circumcised men were only about a third as likely as uncircumcised men to test positive for HPV. The authors speculate that circumcision, which involves removal of the foreskin, minimizes the area of the penis vulnerable to HPV infection.

On the whole, partners of circumcised men were about 25% less likely to have cervical cancer than partners of uncircumcised men, a difference that was not statistically significant. But among women in relationships with men at high risk for HPV, those with circumcised partners were 80% less likely to have cervical cancer.

Co-author Keerti Shah, a virologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore, notes that other research suggests that circumcision also reduces men's risk of infection with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

"This may be something that may be true for many sexually transmitted infections," Shah says.


hope you uncut mofos like your herpes

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:17:44 PM  
griffer: CrazyCracka420: Considering it's not useless, or ugly, I would not.

That's like your opinion.

What about ears? The point is, there is no reason to do it.

Other than conformity.

And it damages the sexual function of the penis. This is medical fact.

BUT KEEP ON CUTTING YOUR SINS DICKS BECAUSE YOU HAD YOUR MANGLED!

The foreskin of the father are not tolerated on the son, either, i see.


I don't think any circumcised men have problems cumming. I don't consider it mangled, it looks like your penis when you're hard, except mine doesn't have skin there.

Look, I already conceded there's really no difference at all in how women (even in the US) view penises. There's really no benefit in a modern country, to being circ'ed. I just like the look, and am used to it. I would do the same for my son, because e i like the look of my clean dick. I don't see what the big deal is if you want to leave it, or want to chop it. It's a little flap of skin.

If you want to talk about it desensitizing the penis, I can tell you, I've got a boner about 85% of the day, and I can cum without any problems.

I'm telling you, there's really no difference at all, it's just aesthetic opinion.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:18:20 PM  
hockeyfarker: hope you uncut mofos like your herpes

Oh, please.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 01:18:20 PM  
karooble: Moist and covered doesn't mean gross and stanky.

Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:18:25 PM  
Isuldirs: Wow. Over dramatize much?

I consider cutting off the end of my penis more dramatic than altering my ears, so that would be UNDER dramatizing.

// what are you ? ferenghi ?

 
Edd17 2009-07-17 01:18:31 PM  
CrazyCracka420: You're a f*cking moron...

Doing it to a baby is different than having a grown man get circ'ed. Adult male circumcision is hell, you get a boner and you can get the stitches to come out...it's painful, and you have a doc coming at your penis with a knife.

Parents are deciding for their kids whether or not they'll be circ'ed for life. If you circ them, or not, I can tell you they won't get the procedure done later in life (there's no point in doing it, unless it's medical).


Do I need to draw a diagram? If you're uncut as an infant, you can either get cut as an adult or not. If you're cut as an infant, end of the line.

Why would they not see all the obvious benefits of circumcision you're talking about and get it done?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:19:22 PM  
crm114: Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

yea, cuz pulling my foreskin back and washing under it is TOTALLY not fun

// REALLY ? THAT stupid ?

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:19:42 PM  
karooble: someahole: Back in college I had a roommate that was uncut. He confessed that he felt that it was definitely a detriment to his sex life. Not only did many US women find it unnerving, but he was also constantly getting yeast infections. At one point he confessed that he and his girlfriend had been passing back and forth the same yeast infection for several months.

As is usual in cases like this, it seems that his problem was not being uncut, but simply poor hygiene (either that or his girl was a damn nasty skank). Seriously, if you're uncut, just wash it. It's really not any bigger of a deal than a woman having to manage her constantly-moist parts. Moist and covered doesn't mean gross and stanky.


Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas, if they do that, it can take away the natural bacteria that keeps them balanced.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:19:54 PM  
CrazyCracka420: it looks like your penis

PAY ATTENTION, DUMMY!

I. am. cut.

I said it before.

CrazyCracka420: aesthetic opinion

I know, van gogh. That's my point. You aren't listening.

Whatever.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:20:29 PM  
griffer: Nope, the mohel put that stripe there for you.

With my luck, my son would get the guy with hiccups.

 
zoips 2009-07-17 01:21:16 PM  
hockeyfarker:

Considering that there's a vaccine for HPV for women, I don't see that as any logical reason to continue to circumcise males.

 
WorldKnowledge 2009-07-17 01:21:18 PM  
Hey man! I was circ'ed at 3 days old and I couln't walk for a farkin' year!!!

 
crm114 2009-07-17 01:21:38 PM  
Slartibartfaster: crm114: Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

yea, cuz pulling my foreskin back and washing under it is TOTALLY not fun

// REALLY ? THAT stupid ?


REALLY? TAKING THIS THAT SERIOUSLY? CARING ABOUT CIRCUMCISION THAT MUCH? TYPING IN CAPSLOCK THIS MUCH? WHAARGARBL!!!

/calm down Frances, welcome to Fark

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:21:39 PM  
WorldKnowledge: Hey man! I was circ'ed at 3 days old and I couln't walk for a farkin' year!!!

LOLLER!

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:21:44 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas

now take away the quotes around "clean"
or aim higher at the trailer park jamboree next time

 
karooble 2009-07-17 01:21:49 PM  
crm114: Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

Unmoist and uncovered also means less sensitivity. For the girls: Imagine if you had to hold your outer (and inner, if they're big like that) labia open until everything gets nice and dry. Now try touching your parts and see if you experience nearly as intense a feeling. You won't. It's like having chapped lips or dry hands. This is why we use lube.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:21:53 PM  
griffer: PAY ATTENTION, DUMMY!

I. am. cut.


Well, then it REALLY looks like your penis.

But bigger. :D

 
Jubeebee 2009-07-17 01:22:09 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: Jubeebee: I remember when I was a kid it could go all the way over the tip, but I'd have to stretch it to get it there now.

Or jump into cold water.


Or that.

karooble: As is usual in cases like this, it seems that his problem was not being uncut, but simply poor hygiene (either that or his girl was a damn nasty skank). Seriously, if you're uncut, just wash it. It's really not any bigger of a deal than a woman having to manage her constantly-moist parts. Moist and covered doesn't mean gross and stanky.

Note that as a teenager, the required cleaning often leads to other regularly scheduled maintenance and complaints about the water bill from parents.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:22:37 PM  
crm114: TAKING THIS THAT SERIOUSLY?

YES!

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:23:09 PM  
crm114: TYPING IN CAPSLOCK THIS MUCH

When used in combination with other caps levels, its considered a way to emphasize words (much like bolding stuff)

Typing the whole sentence in caps however.... not so much.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:23:17 PM  
Edd17: CrazyCracka420: You're a f*cking moron...

Doing it to a baby is different than having a grown man get circ'ed. Adult male circumcision is hell, you get a boner and you can get the stitches to come out...it's painful, and you have a doc coming at your penis with a knife.

Parents are deciding for their kids whether or not they'll be circ'ed for life. If you circ them, or not, I can tell you they won't get the procedure done later in life (there's no point in doing it, unless it's medical).

Do I need to draw a diagram? If you're uncut as an infant, you can either get cut as an adult or not. If you're cut as an infant, end of the line.

Why would they not see all the obvious benefits of circumcision you're talking about and get it done?


God, you're f*cking dense. I didn't say there were benefits of being circ'ed, now did I? Do I need to draw you a diagram? No adult male in their right mind would get circ'ed. Who would make a conscious choice to let a doc come at their penis with a knife? The post-op is horrible and complicated...of course they're not going to go through circumcision as an adult...

So now that I've explained that getting circ'ed as an adult, is really a non-sequitar, would you care to draw that diagram for me?

If you circ your kid, he's circ'ed for life, if you don't, he's gonna be uncirc'ed for life (unless it's medically necessary). I've already explained why. If you disagree, you're either not an adult male with a penis, or you really believe there are advantages to being circ'ed (which there are not, besides aesthetic reasons).

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:23:40 PM  
Look, if my son is going to have any kind of pecker surgery that early in his life, I'd rather he had it enlarged.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:23:45 PM  
zoips: Considering that there's a vaccine for HPV for women, I don't see that as any logical reason to continue to circumcise males.

When I said "hope you uncut mofos like your herpes" what part made you think I was referring to women?

hockeyfarker: After accounting for such factors as age at first intercourse and lifetime number of sexual partners, circumcised men were only about a third as likely as uncircumcised men to test positive for HPV.

 
Isuldirs 2009-07-17 01:24:18 PM  
Slartibartfaster: I consider cutting off the end of my penis more dramatic than altering my ears, so that would be UNDER dramatizing.

Well I know that MANY (if not most) of my pals are cut, yet I know NO ONE who has cut their ear lobs off.

what are you ? ferenghi ?

thewiddershins.files.wordpress.com

HOW DID YOU KNOW?!

/Lets agree to disagree and enjoy our weekend.

 
karooble 2009-07-17 01:24:35 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas, if they do that, it can take away the natural bacteria that keeps them balanced.

Soap's stupid, and douching is ridiculously idiotic, but a rinse (of the outer/inner labia, not the vaginal canal itself) with plain water in the shower doesn't hurt anything. And if a woman is stanky, it's a useful step (though she should really seek out antibiotics if she's that rank).

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:24:37 PM  
Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas

now take away the quotes around "clean"
or aim higher at the trailer park jamboree next time


I don't get it...I used the word "clean" because they do maintenance down there, I just haven't met any who actually clean it in the shower.

 
Smarshmallow 2009-07-17 01:24:40 PM  
crm114: It wasn't the disagreement that was a troll, it was bringing up the Catholic priesthood abuse when it had nothing to do with the subject at hand. Those cases involve alter boys and such who, quite obviously, can remember the abuse and thus talk about it. I don't know one person who was circumcised as a baby and remembers the pain or trauma, and to equate circumcision with sexual abuse is pretty damn retarded in terms of long term effects and the motivation behind them.

/damn you for making me be serious in a thread that's this much fun...for God's sake I got to type the phrase "take a tequila shot out of your penis" earlier


Oh, lighten up. I was referencing repressed memories against the silly argument that if you don't remember something, it doesn't count. As for it being sexual abuse, it's ritualistic/cosmetic genital mutilation of a baby. I'd say that's sexual abuse.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:24:53 PM  
Jubeebee: Note that as a teenager, the required cleaning often leads to other regularly scheduled maintenance and complaints about the water bill from parents

if it takes you that long, that is called "masturbating" not "cleaning"

 
crm114 2009-07-17 01:24:59 PM  
karooble: crm114: Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

Unmoist and uncovered also means less sensitivity. For the girls: Imagine if you had to hold your outer (and inner, if they're big like that) labia open until everything gets nice and dry. Now try touching your parts and see if you experience nearly as intense a feeling. You won't. It's like having chapped lips or dry hands. This is why we use lube.


Never had any problem with sensitivity, chafing or any feeling resembling what you described, of course I've always been cut but I have to say...I think you're doing it wrong

/fap,fap,fap

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:25:00 PM  
karooble: Soap's stupid, and douching is ridiculously idiotic,

Draino is probably not such a good idea either...

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:25:35 PM  
CrazyCracka420: I don't get it...I used the word "clean" because they do maintenance down there

That reminds me. When my wife is in having our son, I'm going to ask them to change her oil...

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:26:08 PM  
CrazyCracka420: I just haven't met any who actually clean it in the shower

now THAT's a fun task to share with her ;-)

But I must have different luck to you, ... I have never met one that does not clean it in the shower.

 
Farkwaddle 2009-07-17 01:26:17 PM  
I love these circ threads. The wharrrgarrrble is always epic. Carry on.

 
bugmn99 2009-07-17 01:26:23 PM  
www.yanowhatimean.com

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:27:03 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: CrazyCracka420: I don't get it...I used the word "clean" because they do maintenance down there

That reminds me. When my wife is in having our son, I'm going to ask them to change her oil...


They might have a newer model you could test drive

 
Smarshmallow 2009-07-17 01:27:41 PM  
CrazyCracka420: How is that bad logic? I don't think any adult male in their right mind would get circumcised, and that's including those like myself, who are circ'ed already (if we were to pretend we weren't). If that's the case (which I guarantee it is), then how is it giving your baby a choice to leave them uncircumcised? They aren't going to go out and get circ'ed, because (as I already said, and I think any male would agree), a dude's not gonna go out and let a doc come at his penis with a knife. The post-op is horrible for circumcision, the only way someone would do it as an adult, is for medical reasons.

You can argue all you want about whether or not to circ your baby, but don't give me the copout that "you're giving them a choice", that's bullsh*t, and anyone in their right mind knows it.


Your argument is that, because one of the options is so unattractive that nobody would choose it, not forcing that option on a child, and allowing that child to make the decision for themselves, is not a choice.

You could use that argument about any possible choice where one option is obviously unattractive.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 01:27:54 PM  
Smarshmallow: Oh, lighten up. I was referencing repressed memories against the silly argument that if you don't remember something, it doesn't count. As for it being sexual abuse, it's ritualistic/cosmetic genital mutilation of a baby. I'd say that's sexual abuse.

YOU lighten up!

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:28:01 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: karooble: Soap's stupid, and douching is ridiculously idiotic,

Draino is probably not such a good idea either...


You shouldn't use chemicals on such a sensitive area at all. If it's got that old tuna smell, just rinse it out with a firehose

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:28:02 PM  
Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: I just haven't met any who actually clean it in the shower

now THAT's a fun task to share with her ;-)

But I must have different luck to you, ... I have never met one that does not clean it in the shower.


Well not inside their vaginal wall, but like karooble said, they still clean their lips and on the outside.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:28:14 PM  
CrazyCracka420: They might have a newer model you could test drive

"The rear end is out of alignment. Anything you can do for that?"

 
Jubeebee 2009-07-17 01:28:22 PM  
Slartibartfaster: if it takes you that long, that is called "masturbating" not "cleaning"

Goddamnit he's cracked my code.

 
J. Frank Parnell 2009-07-17 01:29:14 PM  
CrazyCracka420: How is cutting off some excess skin a big deal?

There is no 'excess' when it comes to biology and nature itself.

People always thought the appendix was useless, and removed it without a second thought, until a few years ago we discover it has a purpose and we were arrogant morons all those years.

Go ahead and mutilate your body all you want, though, it's up to you what you do with yours, but just don't go making that decision for those who can't speak for themselves.

 
Farkwaddle 2009-07-17 01:29:18 PM  
Slartibartfaster: Jubeebee: Note that as a teenager, the required cleaning often leads to other regularly scheduled maintenance and complaints about the water bill from parents

if it takes you that long, that is called "masturbating" not "cleaning"


Not if you're using soap as a lube. You're just being thorough.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:29:34 PM  
hockeyfarker: You shouldn't use chemicals on such a sensitive area at all. If it's got that old tuna smell, just rinse it out with a firehose

THERE'S a 911 call I hope someone will get on mp3.

"Her ovaries shot right out the window! Send help NOW!"

 
Becky Beerings 2009-07-17 01:29:34 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas, if they do that, it can take away the natural bacteria that keeps them balanced.

um....

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 01:29:57 PM  
CrazyCracka420: foo monkey: CrazyCracka420: That being said, if you're not circ'ed, who cares, I wouldn't ever go out and get circ'ed if my parents didn't do me the favor when I was a little baby.
.

They didn't do you a favor.

They did, because I like the look, and there's no wind resistance, so easier to pound away ;)

That being said, did you read the rest of my post? It really doesn't matter one way or the other, but I have a preference for the clean look.


Agreed.

I like being cut. I love how my cock looks and I have great sex, so there's no problem as far as I'm concerned.

Would I do it to my son if I had one? Answer: I don't want kids.

/kinda wish my gf could do shots out of my skin, but I think I'll survive.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:30:13 PM  
CrazyCracka420: they still clean their lips and on the outside.

She takes about as long cleaning hers as I do mine (respectively different bits)

// Glad Im not a member of a primitive desert culture so petrified of a sky ghost Ill dismember my children

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:30:24 PM  
J. Frank Parnell: There is no 'excess' when it comes to biology and nature itself.

I dunno...I think we could do well with a bit less cancer...

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:30:29 PM  
Smarshmallow: CrazyCracka420: How is that bad logic? I don't think any adult male in their right mind would get circumcised, and that's including those like myself, who are circ'ed already (if we were to pretend we weren't). If that's the case (which I guarantee it is), then how is it giving your baby a choice to leave them uncircumcised? They aren't going to go out and get circ'ed, because (as I already said, and I think any male would agree), a dude's not gonna go out and let a doc come at his penis with a knife. The post-op is horrible for circumcision, the only way someone would do it as an adult, is for medical reasons.

You can argue all you want about whether or not to circ your baby, but don't give me the copout that "you're giving them a choice", that's bullsh*t, and anyone in their right mind knows it.

Your argument is that, because one of the options is so unattractive that nobody would choose it, not forcing that option on a child, and allowing that child to make the decision for themselves, is not a choice.

You could use that argument about any possible choice where one option is obviously unattractive.


The difference, is that it's not unattractive when you're a child, because you don't know any better, and the post op is a cakewalk compared to if you had it done as an adult. That's the difference here, is the difference between having it done as an adult, and as a child. It's a non-sequitar to suggest someone has a choice to get circ'ed as an adult. If they were circ'ed already, they have no choice, and if they weren't, they basically have no choice to get circ'ed (because the risk outweights the benefits...when having it done as an adult, not as a child).

 
Pinner 2009-07-17 01:31:01 PM  
wyrlss: This thread is worth less without pricks.

FTFY

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:31:34 PM  
J. Frank Parnell: CrazyCracka420: How is cutting off some excess skin a big deal?

There is no 'excess' when it comes to biology and nature itself.

People always thought the appendix was useless, and removed it without a second thought, until a few years ago we discover it has a purpose and we were arrogant morons all those years.

Go ahead and mutilate your body all you want, though, it's up to you what you do with yours, but just don't go making that decision for those who can't speak for themselves.


If you don't do it as a baby, they won't have it done as adults. So if you leave your baby uncirc'ed, you're making a decision for those who can't speak for themselves. Don't kid yourself.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:31:43 PM  
flyurchin: /kinda wish my gf could do shots out of my skin, but I think I'll survive.

You could always gouge out an eye...

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:31:48 PM  
flyurchin: kinda wish my gf could do shots out of my skin, but I think I'll survive

be back soon, I gotta go get some tequila :-)

 
zoips 2009-07-17 01:32:59 PM  
hockeyfarker: zoips: Considering that there's a vaccine for HPV for women, I don't see that as any logical reason to continue to circumcise males.

When I said "hope you uncut mofos like your herpes" what part made you think I was referring to women?

hockeyfarker: After accounting for such factors as age at first intercourse and lifetime number of sexual partners, circumcised men were only about a third as likely as uncircumcised men to test positive for HPV.


Err, because I misread it as a study more concerned with the incidence of cervical cancer in women.

Though, as a post-fact justification, seems that if all women are vaccinated for HPV, then an uncut male is less likely to have a partner to be infected with the virus by.

 
Jubeebee 2009-07-17 01:33:24 PM  
While we're talking about cleaning up down there, I'm going to trim before I go out tonight. Normally I use the 1/2" guard, but I'm thinking about going down to 1/4". Farkette (or fabulous Farker) thoughts?

/this thread reminds me of TFD

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:34:12 PM  
And what does the appendix do? I know people who had appendicitis and had theirs removed, should I tell them to panic?

I'm telling you guys, for a baby, it's no sweat to have them circ'ed. I'm also telling you, no adult would have the procedure done, unless absolutely necessary.

I'm further telling you, there's really no difference between the two besides aesthetics (if you take regular showers, and if you don't you have bigger problems than your penis).

I don't see what's w/ all the back and forth on the issue...it's all pretty common sense.

 
Garble 2009-07-17 01:34:16 PM  
Slartibartfaster
(do uncut guys not realize that it unfurls itself when required ?!?, like the well made tool it is)

No, they don't.

Which is also why they reveal their ignorance anytime they argue for chopping because of appearance. They don't even realize that foreskins can be pulled back to reveal a penis that looks just like a "normal" one (but with a wrinkle instead of a scar).

Arguing from ignorance is ignorant.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:34:19 PM  
J. Frank Parnell: People always thought the appendix was useless, and removed it without a second thought, until a few years ago we discover it has a purpose and we were arrogant morons all those years.

Yeah, but it totally sucks when the end of your penis gets infected and swollen and almost kills you

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:34:50 PM  
CrazyCracka420: So if you leave your baby uncirc'ed, you're making a decision for those who can't speak for themselves

logic ?

heard of it ?

Thats like saying.... I made a decision for my child by NOT taking him to church.
Sure, most kids that are not brainwashed early, dont do it as an adult... but they CAN.

 
Edd17 2009-07-17 01:35:05 PM  
CrazyCracka420: or you really believe there are advantages to being circ'ed (which there are not, besides aesthetic reasons).

Golly! You think so? Yet here you are saying that you'd have it done to others.

 
karooble 2009-07-17 01:35:34 PM  
Jubeebee: While we're talking about cleaning up down there, I'm going to trim before I go out tonight. Normally I use the 1/2" guard, but I'm thinking about going down to 1/4". Farkette (or fabulous Farker) thoughts?

Trimming's a good idea, but if you trim down to 1/4", it's going to look stubbly instead of tidy -- like you shaved it completely a couple weeks ago and you're just letting it grow back in. I'd stick with the 1/2".

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:36:06 PM  
Jubeebee: Farkette (or fabulous Farker) thoughts?

Don't try it with a straight razor during an allergy attack?

 
GoatEwHelenWate 2009-07-17 01:36:07 PM  
CrazyCracka420: J. Frank Parnell: CrazyCracka420: How is cutting off some excess skin a big deal?

There is no 'excess' when it comes to biology and nature itself.

People always thought the appendix was useless, and removed it without a second thought, until a few years ago we discover it has a purpose and we were arrogant morons all those years.

Go ahead and mutilate your body all you want, though, it's up to you what you do with yours, but just don't go making that decision for those who can't speak for themselves.

If you don't do it as a baby, they won't have it done as adults. So if you leave your baby uncirc'ed, you're making a decision for those who can't speak for themselves. Don't kid yourself.


Pardon me, but the argument that we do it to babies specifically because it's an absolutely horrific procedure with no medical benefit and a lot of risk when done to an adult seems really absurd.

If there's no medical benefit, and nobody would ever choose to do it to themselves, why are we doing it at all?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:36:48 PM  
CrazyCracka420: no adult would have the procedure done, unless absolutely necessary

and you dont see the conclusion there ?
If an adult gets the choice, they almost never do it, "unless absolutely necessary"

gee, I wonder if there is a reason for that.

(and your thoughts on how its ok if you do it early enough so they wont remember, is why a lot of men are in jail... away from the general population... for their own safety)

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:37:35 PM  
Jubeebee: While we're talking about cleaning up down there, I'm going to trim before I go out tonight. Normally I use the 1/2" guard, but I'm thinking about going down to 1/4". Farkette (or fabulous Farker) thoughts?

/this thread reminds me of TFD


I'm not fabulous, but I'll give you my advice: shave the frank and beans (beans are optional, but I like getting my balls sucked). I shave around the base a little, and then just use a short trimmer for the rest...how much you trim is up to you, but I'd say 1/4" would be good.

Shaving with Bacitracin, or some other antibiotic ointments are preferred as it doesn't leave as many nicks and gouges, and isn't as irritated when you're done. Just make sure you wash it off very well with warm water, because antibiotics on the penis can cause yeast infections.

 
karooble 2009-07-17 01:37:37 PM  
GoatEwHelenWate: If there's no medical benefit, and nobody would ever choose to do it to themselves, why are we doing it at all?

Sky wizard + tradition + societal taboos.

 
dittybopper [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:37:42 PM  
Cybernetic: Englebert Slaptyback: NightOwl2255

Damn I love a good Thesaurus smack down!


For good or ill, the thesaurus remained undisturbed throughout the composition of that missive.

Your ebullient use of polysyllabics does engender approbation.

/Also without a thesaurus.


I'm against people who give vent to their loquacity by extraneous bombastic circumlocution.

/Oh, I don't like that.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 01:37:48 PM  
Cut off the whole penis, including the testes. That'll stop those f'uckers!

 
J. Frank Parnell 2009-07-17 01:38:02 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: J. Frank Parnell: There is no 'excess' when it comes to biology and nature itself.

I dunno...I think we could do well with a bit less cancer...


That's a genetic mutation brought on by exposure to radiation and whatnot. It's not really included in the main blueprint for each living thing.

I'm speaking strictly about how living things are created, all bets are off when they start wandering around getting dosed with toxins and radiation.

 
Pinner 2009-07-17 01:38:36 PM  
You know, if you're cut, your GF can't play games like Dune, or peel the banana, or find the gum.
You're missing out.

 
GoatEwHelenWate 2009-07-17 01:38:55 PM  
karooble: Jubeebee: While we're talking about cleaning up down there, I'm going to trim before I go out tonight. Normally I use the 1/2" guard, but I'm thinking about going down to 1/4". Farkette (or fabulous Farker) thoughts?

Trimming's a good idea, but if you trim down to 1/4", it's going to look stubbly instead of tidy -- like you shaved it completely a couple weeks ago and you're just letting it grow back in. I'd stick with the 1/2".


Personally I'd do the 1/4". At 1/2" it's still pretty bushy and hairs end up in the mouth/throat when giving the oral. Trimming down to 1/4" will keep everything neat and tidy, and hey if you feel like going completely bare on the balls that works too. I'm willing to suck on hairless balls, but not hairy ones for the aforementioned hair-throat reason.

 
Aidan [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:39:19 PM  
What a weird argument.
Sounds like for 90% of the population, no one (man or woman) cares if someone is cut or uncut. The bulk of the arguments for doing it appear to be appeal to tradition. IE: I got it done, I'll have it done to my kids. I guess that's a valid point, but it creeps me the hell out.

/My husband is cut, my son is uncut. No issues so far
//Although my son does keep asking me where my penis is

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:39:32 PM  
CrazyCracka420: antibiotics on the penis can cause yeast infections.

I did not know that. weird, wacky stuff.

official wtf thread of the day

 
MemeSlave 2009-07-17 01:39:39 PM  
How about you stop bum-farking chimps, and then you won't get teh AIDS?

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:39:51 PM  
Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: So if you leave your baby uncirc'ed, you're making a decision for those who can't speak for themselves

logic ?

heard of it ?

Thats like saying.... I made a decision for my child by NOT taking him to church.
Sure, most kids that are not brainwashed early, dont do it as an adult... but they CAN.


Yes, I've heard of logic. I understand what you're trying to say, I'm just saying it's a non-sequitar (i.e. the two sides you're presenting aren't actually how it works in the real world). I'm telling you, that I'm circ'ed and like that I am, however if I wasn't, there's no f*cking way I would let a doc come near my penis with a knife, unless medically necessary.

So to say it's a choice, is not being truthful, it's facetious. The reason? For the 8th time: the consequences and aftermath of circing a baby, is not the same as circing an adult.

 
GoatEwHelenWate 2009-07-17 01:39:58 PM  
karooble: GoatEwHelenWate: If there's no medical benefit, and nobody would ever choose to do it to themselves, why are we doing it at all?

Sky wizard + tradition + societal taboos.


I was kind of hoping for some good reasons...but I see there are none.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 01:40:46 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: kinda wish my gf could do shots out of my skin, but I think I'll survive

be back soon, I gotta go get some tequila :-)


You gonna teach me a new trick?

IXI Jim IXI: flyurchin: /kinda wish my gf could do shots out of my skin, but I think I'll survive.

You could always gouge out an eye...


Heads up thinking, Jim!

 
karooble 2009-07-17 01:41:00 PM  
Pinner: You know, if you're cut, your GF can't play games like Dune, or peel the banana, or find the gum.

Pop the Doritos bag: You blow it up, keep it pinched closed with your lips to hold the air in, and then gently tap both sides with your hands, as if popping a bag of chips. It's not erotic at all, but it's funny as hell as long as your partner's got a good sense of humor, especially if they're not expecting it.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:42:31 PM  
J. Frank Parnell: That's a genetic mutation brought on by exposure to radiation and whatnot.

Sorry, man. Cancer is nature, in all its glory.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:43:18 PM  
hockeyfarker: CrazyCracka420: antibiotics on the penis can cause yeast infections.

I did not know that. weird, wacky stuff.


on the other hand I've never had any "gouges" on my personal area

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:43:42 PM  
GoatEwHelenWate: CrazyCracka420: J. Frank Parnell: CrazyCracka420: How is cutting off some excess skin a big deal?

There is no 'excess' when it comes to biology and nature itself.

People always thought the appendix was useless, and removed it without a second thought, until a few years ago we discover it has a purpose and we were arrogant morons all those years.

Go ahead and mutilate your body all you want, though, it's up to you what you do with yours, but just don't go making that decision for those who can't speak for themselves.

If you don't do it as a baby, they won't have it done as adults. So if you leave your baby uncirc'ed, you're making a decision for those who can't speak for themselves. Don't kid yourself.

Pardon me, but the argument that we do it to babies specifically because it's an absolutely horrific procedure with no medical benefit and a lot of risk when done to an adult seems really absurd.

If there's no medical benefit, and nobody would ever choose to do it to themselves, why are we doing it at all?


Because there's less wind resistance, I get more efficiency from my circ'ed penis...

I honestly don't know, other than like the guy above me said, societal norms/taboos, and possibly (but probably very small %) because of religious reasons.

The only reason I'd do it to my son, is because some women (probably a very small %) are grossed out by an uncirc'ed penis (and again, who gives a f*ck, he could find another woman), and because it's what I'm used to.

I really don't have a good answer, and I don't think it matters either way if you decide to do it or not.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:43:45 PM  
CrazyCracka420: So to say it's a choice, is not being truthful, it's facetious. The reason? For the 8th time: the consequences and aftermath of circing a baby, is not the same as circing an adult.

Sure

but at that point its THEIR CHOICE

You were proposing that NOT doing it, takes away their choice.
They ONLY have a choice if you dont do it (see how that works yet ?)

At that point, most choose not to do it. (probably because its a painful, unnecessary, genital mutilation... and what sane person would volunteer for that).

Circumcising your kid, removes that choice.
If as an adult, you would be reluctant to do it, because of the pain, or the shear idiocy of it... why would you want it done to your defenseless baby boy ?!?

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 01:43:57 PM  
Jubeebee: While we're talking about cleaning up down there, I'm going to trim before I go out tonight. Normally I use the 1/2" guard, but I'm thinking about going down to 1/4". Farkette (or fabulous Farker) thoughts?

/this thread reminds me of TFD


My method: Shaft and balls shave with mach 3 in the shower, trim surrounding brush with scissors. I have thick hair in general, so clippers like to, um, not work very well.

This thread is bananas. B. A. N. A. N. A. S.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:43:58 PM  
karooble: It's not erotic at all, but it's funny as hell as long as your partner's got a good sense of humor,

Just as long as you don't have a gas attack...

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 01:44:21 PM  
MemeSlave: How about you stop bum-farking chimps, and then you won't get teh AIDS?


Is it still ok for Michael Jackson to blow Bubbles?

 
Ringshadow 2009-07-17 01:44:45 PM  
Hmm. You know, in the last circumcision thread, I was firmly against it, stating that the pretense of maybe lowering the transmission of one STD out of many isn't a good enough reason to circumcise. I was rebuffed by people who thought that I was an idiot for wanting a better reason. Now it turns out that reason is full of holes too.

So, can we fade circumcision out now and just pass out condoms, or what?

/let's be honest, dicks look silly with or without a sweater
//and I wouldn't be dating you for the appearance of said dick in the first place

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:44:57 PM  
hockeyfarker: hockeyfarker: CrazyCracka420: antibiotics on the penis can cause yeast infections.

I did not know that. weird, wacky stuff.

on the other hand I've never had any "gouges" on my personal area


Well I mean like nicks (not gouges) from shaving. Sometimes I'll cut myself, but generally the nicks are from irritations. Bacitracin, or a similar topical antibiotic are great when you're shaving down there. But antibiotics kill the normal bacteria down there, and will cause a yeast infection, so I would make sure you wash it off real good.

 
Joce678 2009-07-17 01:44:58 PM  
hockeyfarker:
I think I speak for all men when I curl into the fetal position and rock back and forth after reading that


Hey, guess what ... if they weren't ragging on you for that they'd be ragging on you for something else - for being Irish or whatever (they probably did that as well, right?)

That's school.

 
xenomorpheus [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:45:04 PM  
There are some guys out there who have been mutilated in this manner and who are still unable to feel normal sexual pleasures(oral or penetration). This causes an unbelievable amount of stress and frustration because they don't feel normal and can't reach the goal of orgasm without an unnatural amount of stimulation. Keeping stiff without adequate stimulation is impossible also. Relationships are severely affected because women think they aren't stimulating their mates enough. Most kind women would at first say it isn't a problem, but in the end it always becomes a problem when their lust has disappeared and they expect what cannot be provided. Relationships always fail, life goes on, but never getting any closer to any sexual goals or experiences that most men have attained way back in their teens.

/I can haz my 50 thousand sensitive sexual nerve endings back... please? Just need to feel a pussy make me cum at least once so I can die happy - Is that too much to ask???
//Sexuality is a gift that religion likes to destroy
/// circumcision is not worth it, especially to the few who experience issues like infection and have their sexuality utterly destroyed.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 01:45:29 PM  
Slartibartfaster: Circumcising your kid, removes that choice.
If as an adult, you would be reluctant to do it, because of the pain, or the shear idiocy of it... why would you want it done to your defenseless baby boy ?!?


Well, that's why I'm glad my parents made that choice, otherwise I wouldn't have.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:45:39 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Because there's less wind resistance

exactly how do you measure that ? stand next to another guy in a wind tunnel ?
Or did you have the operation recently.

Btw, have you ever heard anyone with a foreskin describe resistance ?!? The foreskin decreases friction (if you want it to)... and for added sensitivity sometimes I pull it back and go for it. See I have BOTH modes ;-)

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:46:06 PM  
Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: So to say it's a choice, is not being truthful, it's facetious. The reason? For the 8th time: the consequences and aftermath of circing a baby, is not the same as circing an adult.

Sure

but at that point its THEIR CHOICE


This argument is like farking a 13 year old. You're both trying to force your idea on the other person, but it's not going to work.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:46:43 PM  
flyurchin: Well, that's why I'm glad my parents made that choice, otherwise I wouldn't have

Thats warped dude

You are glad your parents did something to you... because if you had the choice you would not have done it....

mmmm kay

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:47:12 PM  
Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: So to say it's a choice, is not being truthful, it's facetious. The reason? For the 8th time: the consequences and aftermath of circing a baby, is not the same as circing an adult.

Sure

but at that point its THEIR CHOICE

You were proposing that NOT doing it, takes away their choice.
They ONLY have a choice if you dont do it (see how that works yet ?)


I already told you, I see how that works...you act like I'm retarded...I'm saying I disagree it's a choice, it's an option sure, but a choice? No, because nobody would choose that.

At that point, most choose not to do it. (probably because its a painful, unnecessary, genital mutilation... and what sane person would volunteer for that).

Circumcising your kid, removes that choice.
If as an adult, you would be reluctant to do it, because of the pain, or the shear idiocy of it... why would you want it done to your defenseless baby boy ?!?


Same reason you'd declaw a cat when it was little, because it's not going to hurt them, the post-op isn't as bad when they're little (they're not popping boners every 15 minutes), and they won't remember a thing.

I'd only do it to my baby for aesthetic reasons, it's 2009, they can clip some excess skin off, and sew it up, no problem.

 
Joce678 2009-07-17 01:47:25 PM  
GomezAdams: Circumcision. I'm against genital mutilation and just because the Jewish and Muslim Guy in the Sky says to don't make it right.

How about when Dr. Kellogg says it? - 'cos he's the one who started the whole circumcision movement in the USA.

(Yes, the same guy who invented cornflakes...)

 
Jubeebee 2009-07-17 01:47:41 PM  
So far the votes are:
1 - 1/2"
1 - 1/4"
1 - shaved
1 - avoid alleys and straight razors

Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

 
J. Frank Parnell 2009-07-17 01:48:18 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: J. Frank Parnell: That's a genetic mutation brought on by exposure to radiation and whatnot.

Sorry, man. Cancer is nature, in all its glory.


Well everything could be called nature in the broadest sense of the term. Even the electricity running your computer isn't really man made, it's just man harnessing an aspect of nature.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:49:04 PM  
Joce678: hockeyfarker:
I think I speak for all men when I curl into the fetal position and rock back and forth after reading that

Hey, guess what ... if they weren't ragging on you for that they'd be ragging on you for something else - for being Irish or whatever (they probably did that as well, right?)

That's school.


hello, Joce678. not only is this reply extremely late, you've also apparently translated my original post into Klingon and then back.

/and don't call me Irish

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:49:12 PM  
CrazyCracka420: because it's not going to hurt them

yea, thats why the totally dont cry when you do it

 
o5iiawah 2009-07-17 01:49:20 PM  
my cock is a towering, cut, veiny thing of beauty

 
Aidan [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:49:49 PM  
Jubeebee: So far the votes are:
1 - 1/2"
1 - 1/4"
1 - shaved
1 - avoid alleys and straight razors

Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.


There's a vote? Then I vote 1/4, and only wish you could mention it in an aside to my SO that it would be really worth doing.

/yes, I have dropped hints
//no, it's not that big of a deal

 
ttintagel 2009-07-17 01:50:03 PM  
That headline just writes itself.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:50:08 PM  
GoatEwHelenWate: karooble: GoatEwHelenWate: If there's no medical benefit, and nobody would ever choose to do it to themselves, why are we doing it at all?

Sky wizard + tradition + societal taboos.

I was kind of hoping for some good reasons...but I see there are none.


Nope, there really aren't any "good" reasons. Other than aesthetics, and it's not an issue to have it done to a baby.

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 01:51:07 PM  
Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: because it's not going to hurt them

yea, thats why the totally dont cry when you do it


In his defense, babies cry just for the fark of it as far as I can tell. Also in his defense, he was not only circumcised but also dropped on his head.

 
karooble 2009-07-17 01:51:14 PM  
Jubeebee: So far the votes are:
1 - 1/2"
1 - 1/4"
1 - shaved
1 - avoid alleys and straight razors

Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.


I just like my men hairy, I guess. Not un-manscaped -- well-groomed -- but I prefer some bush down there. In my experience, a bit of hair doesn't interfere too much with oral sex; even a bit of ball-hair isn't really an issue for oral, as long as your dude isn't a Sasquatch.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:51:15 PM  
Jubeebee: So far the votes are:
1 - 1/2"
1 - 1/4"
1 - shaved
1 - avoid alleys and straight razors

Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.


Nope, 2 for 1/4". 1/2" is too long. Also, shave the frank and beans, and you'll be golden.

That being said, if you get your pants down with a female, it's not really gonna matter, but as a courtesy you should keep it trimmed.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 01:52:14 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Well, that's why I'm glad my parents made that choice, otherwise I wouldn't have

Thats warped dude

You are glad your parents did something to you... because if you had the choice you would not have done it....

mmmm kay


Isn't that how some things in life work?

Sometimes we like something or learn something by having something done to us or a choice made for us that we would have rather not have done to us at the time or would not have done otherwise.

So, though I would not have chosen to be cut if I hadn't been, I'm glad I was, because I truly like my cock this way right now. Of course, I can only say that not knowing what it is like to be uncut, which I accept and am fine with. Basically, most men don't have a choice on the matter and don't know otherwise.

 
forresttriax [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:52:15 PM  
Once my father in law volunteered to change his grandson's diaper. He returned white as a ghost asking why we never told him about the birth defect. My wife asked what he was talking about. He mentioned the penis that was not completely formed. I could not laugh realizing that my American father in law must never have seen one in its natural state.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:52:50 PM  
wyrlss: Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: because it's not going to hurt them

yea, thats why the totally dont cry when you do it

In his defense, babies cry just for the fark of it as far as I can tell. Also in his defense, he was not only circumcised but also dropped on his head.


Why, because I'm being honest, I was dropped on my head? Mmmmkay...it should be pretty obvious to see which comments I was messing around with (streamlined/less wind resistance), and which ones I was serious with (the part about no rational adult choosing to get circ'ed, so it's not really a choice).

But in your defense, you're lazy.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:53:11 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Same reason you'd declaw a cat

again: please stay the hell away from my cat

 
GoatEwHelenWate 2009-07-17 01:53:27 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Jubeebee: So far the votes are:
1 - 1/2"
1 - 1/4"
1 - shaved
1 - avoid alleys and straight razors

Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

Nope, 2 for 1/4". 1/2" is too long. Also, shave the frank and beans, and you'll be golden.

That being said, if you get your pants down with a female, it's not really gonna matter, but as a courtesy you should keep it trimmed.


That'd be 3 for 1/4" and I also suggested the hairless balls for nut-sucking purposes.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:53:31 PM  
J. Frank Parnell: Well everything could be called nature in the broadest sense of the term. Even the electricity running your computer isn't really man made, it's just man harnessing an aspect of nature.

Yes, but cancer is a natural event (at least some instances of it). So saying that there's never any excess in nature or biology is just silly.

I'm sure there were five-limbed frogs appearing here and there long before Mr. Burns set up his reactor.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 01:53:54 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Well, that's why I'm glad my parents made that choice, otherwise I wouldn't have

Thats warped dude

You are glad your parents did something to you... because if you had the choice you would not have done it....

mmmm kay


If I could have made the choice as a baby to be circ'ed, I would. I wouldn't as an adult...do you not understand the difference?

 
crm114 2009-07-17 01:54:45 PM  
xenomorpheus: There are some guys out there who have been mutilated in this manner and who are still unable to feel normal sexual pleasures(oral or penetration). This causes an unbelievable amount of stress and frustration because they don't feel normal and can't reach the goal of orgasm without an unnatural amount of stimulation. Keeping stiff without adequate stimulation is impossible also. Relationships are severely affected because women think they aren't stimulating their mates enough. Most kind women would at first say it isn't a problem, but in the end it always becomes a problem when their lust has disappeared and they expect what cannot be provided. Relationships always fail, life goes on, but never getting any closer to any sexual goals or experiences that most men have attained way back in their teens.

Or they're doing it wrong and have found an easy scapegoat...

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:55:13 PM  
flyurchin: Of course, I can only say that not knowing what it is like to be uncut

so ... you have no valid basis of comparison and all proposed comparisons (without external citation) should be considered invalid... right ?

I can go from bare head, to covered head, in under a second (over a reasonably extended period)

// quite enjoy doing that

 
Molavian 2009-07-17 01:55:33 PM  
forresttriax: Once my father in law volunteered to change his grandson's diaper. He returned white as a ghost asking why we never told him about the birth defect. My wife asked what he was talking about. He mentioned the penis that was not completely formed. I could not laugh realizing that my American father in law must never have seen one in its natural state.

Most straight American men are uninterested in other men's cocks.

Most gay American men are interested in other men's cocks.

It's odd how many of you are interested in other men's cocks.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 01:55:49 PM  
CrazyCracka420: If I could have made the choice as a baby to be circ'ed, I would. I wouldn't as an adult...do you not understand the difference?

Exactly, and I'm glad my parents made that choice.

 
kevinshields [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:57:36 PM  
wyrlss: Oh-Boy: crm114: Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?

No, it doesn't. This idea makes no sense. It's like saying that the goggles get int he way of a skier, or the steering wheel is in the way of a cab driver.

I'm confused and troubled by your analogies.


He's saying your penis needs the foreskin for visual and navigational capabilities, obviously.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 01:59:43 PM  
kevinshields: He's saying your penis needs the foreskin for visual and navigational capabilities, obviously.

It's a GPeniS

 
Gothnet 2009-07-17 02:00:09 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Same reason you'd declaw a cat when it was little

What, because you're a farking asshole that wants a cat that's going to have problems with it's paws for the rest of its life?

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:00:25 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Of course, I can only say that not knowing what it is like to be uncut

so ... you have no valid basis of comparison and all proposed comparisons (without external citation) should be considered invalid... right ?

I can go from bare head, to covered head, in under a second (over a reasonably extended period)

// quite enjoy doing that


Yes and no.

There are comparisons that can be made - that's what most of this thread seems to be about - but there is no comparison of personal experience, because none of us have grown up and learned what it's like to have or not have our foreskin if we don't already not have or have one respectively.

Personally though, I'm really happy with my wholesome cut cock and I'm glad my parents made that choice that I couldn't and wouldn't have if I weren't cut now.

Having a cock is great - and I'm happy that mine is cut. I love how it looks and how it works. I see some of the benefits to having a foreskin, but I can't indulge and I just wouldn't care to.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 02:00:44 PM  
kevinshields: wyrlss: Oh-Boy: crm114: Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?

No, it doesn't. This idea makes no sense. It's like saying that the goggles get int he way of a skier, or the steering wheel is in the way of a cab driver.

I'm confused and troubled by your analogies.

He's saying your penis needs the foreskin for visual and navigational capabilities, obviously.


I lol'ed

A penis, is a penis, is a penis. I think most of us can agree there's no difference functionally, or in attracting a mate. NO adult in their right mind would have it done, and if you prefer a circ'ed penis, and want your kid to have it, do it when they're a baby.

 
finnished 2009-07-17 02:01:10 PM  
Jubeebee: Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

Shave it. Might as well. Let us know how it went.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 02:01:12 PM  
kevinshields: He's saying your penis needs the foreskin for visual and navigational capabilities, obviously.

www.3sfireprotection.com

 
J. Frank Parnell 2009-07-17 02:01:37 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: Yes, but cancer is a natural event (at least some instances of it). So saying that there's never any excess in nature or biology is just silly.

Yeah, there's cancer cells in us all right now. All they are are cells with a bad DNA blueprint. Luckily our bodies have measures to track down and destroy irregular cells our body creates. As for what causes a dramatic rise in DNA mutations, well, radiation and toxins are natural too, in the broadest sense of the term.

 
Gothnet 2009-07-17 02:02:29 PM  
flyurchin: Having a cock is great - and I'm happy that mine is cut. I love how it looks and how it works. I see some of the benefits to having a foreskin, but I can't indulge and I just wouldn't care to.

Translation -

I love my penis and I'll pretend I'll convince myself that this way is the best because any other conclusion would mean I'm less of a man and my ego can't take that.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 02:02:32 PM  
Gothnet: CrazyCracka420: Same reason you'd declaw a cat when it was little

What, because you're a farking asshole that wants a cat that's going to have problems with it's paws for the rest of its life?


I had 2 cats growing up, and my parents refused to declaw them (and I wouldn't do it to my cat either that I'm planning on getting in a few months). Removing claws is a lot more damaging (long and short term) than clipping skin off a penis. I just thought it was a decent analogy, but I guess it really isn't. I think the only reason it could apply, is how the cat won't be traumatized if you do it when it's little, and same with the baby. But who knows...maybe that's why I'm so f*cked up.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:03:08 PM  
flyurchin: wholesome cut

some... sure
whole ? not so much

 
crm114 2009-07-17 02:03:14 PM  
Gothnet: CrazyCracka420: Same reason you'd declaw a cat when it was little

What, because you're a farking asshole that wants a cat that's going to have problems with it's paws for the rest of its life?


I don't have any problems with my cut peener, none of the guys with uncut peeners seem to have any problem. Apparently, you've had both and can thus say that there are problems with a cut one.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:04:18 PM  
Gothnet: I'm less of a man

well to be fair
or not so much

he IS less of a man - someone lopped part of the man bit off
(hope it was not one of those freaky rabbis that clean off with their mouth)

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:04:25 PM  
finnished: Jubeebee: Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

Shave it. Might as well. Let us know how it went.


Are we discussing shaving teh hairs?

Totally do it. Nothing like smooth, clean cut balls and cock. I do my legs too. Big bonus if you're nice and tone, everything down there looks delectable.

 
Jubeebee 2009-07-17 02:04:26 PM  
CrazyCracka420: That being said, if you get your pants down with a female, it's not really gonna matter, but as a courtesy you should keep it trimmed.

Agreed. It's just polite. Like holding the door open.

Looks like I'm trimming down to 1/4" when I get home.

 
xenomorpheus [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:04:51 PM  
crm114:

Or they're doing it wrong and have found an easy scapegoat...


An easy thing to say from your chair, but I'm sure most in this particular situation would have gone to many, many sex therapists and doctors to work things out and find out viable options besides injections or reconstructive surgery.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:05:30 PM  
crm114: I don't have any problems with my cut peener, none of the guys with uncut peeners seem to have any problem

I agree with that.

So why do we cut it off our children again ?

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:06:05 PM  
J. Frank Parnell: Yeah, there's cancer cells in us all right now. All they are are cells with a bad DNA blueprint. Luckily our bodies have measures to track down and destroy irregular cells our body creates. As for what causes a dramatic rise in DNA mutations, well, radiation and toxins are natural too, in the broadest sense of the term.

Don't even have to go to the broadest sense of the term. Cancer, which occurs both due to nature as well as due to radiation, toxins, etc, is an example of excess when it comes to biology and nature.

A population outbreeding its food source is another example of excess regarding nature and biology.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:06:26 PM  
Gothnet: flyurchin: Having a cock is great - and I'm happy that mine is cut. I love how it looks and how it works. I see some of the benefits to having a foreskin, but I can't indulge and I just wouldn't care to.

Translation -

I love my penis and I'll pretend I'll convince myself that this way is the best because any other conclusion would mean I'm less of a man and my ego can't take that.


What? My ego is fine. I don't need to convince myself - I don't know any different.

Slartibartfaster: Gothnet: I'm less of a man

well to be fair
or not so much

he IS less of a man - someone lopped part of the man bit off
(hope it was not one of those freaky rabbis that clean off with their mouth)


Technically, I was a baby, not a man, when I lost it. So now that I've become a man, I'm all there.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 02:06:27 PM  
Jubeebee: CrazyCracka420: That being said, if you get your pants down with a female, it's not really gonna matter, but as a courtesy you should keep it trimmed.

Agreed. It's just polite. Like holding the door open.

Looks like I'm trimming down to 1/4" when I get home.


Good luck with that (shave the penis too, that's the most important part).

Also, TF2 sucks, TFC was the sh*t, and like every other Source version (DOD and CS) they f*cked up TF2. What's the deal with no nades? And why didn't they port some of the original maps over...badlands was the sh*t, and the new version blows :(

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:06:47 PM  
flyurchin: Totally do it. Nothing like smooth, clean cut balls and cock

my wife likes it like that.
Lots of fun when she helps me do it too

(and unlike my foreskin, it grows back)

Dont go clean shaven though, especially in summer.... it itches when it grows back.

 
beelzebubba76 2009-07-17 02:06:51 PM  
Jubeebee: So far the votes are:
1 - 1/2"
1 - 1/4"
1 - shaved
1 - avoid alleys and straight razors

Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.


1 - Ask the girl how she prefers it.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:07:25 PM  
Slartibartfaster: I agree with that.

So why do we cut it off our children again ?


Less chance of snagging it in a zipper?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:07:27 PM  
flyurchin: So now that I've become a man, I'm all there

look again ;-)
not QUITE all of you is there

You know which bit right ?

 
forresttriax [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:07:32 PM  
Molavian: forresttriax: Once my father in law volunteered to change his grandson's diaper. He returned white as a ghost asking why we never told him about the birth defect. My wife asked what he was talking about. He mentioned the penis that was not completely formed. I could not laugh realizing that my American father in law must never have seen one in its natural state.

Most straight American men are uninterested in other men's cocks.

Most gay American men are interested in other men's cocks.

It's odd how many of you are interested in other men's cocks.


Dad?

I just couldn't believe that a man in his mid fifties didn't know what the standard issue equipment was. I bet until that moment he didn't know that his had been altered.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 02:07:56 PM  
xenomorpheus: crm114:

Or they're doing it wrong and have found an easy scapegoat...

An easy thing to say from your chair, but I'm sure most in this particular situation would have gone to many, many sex therapists and doctors to work things out and find out viable options besides injections or reconstructive surgery.


I'm circ'ed, I cum just fine, keep an erection fine, and have no problems getting it up. I don't see how being circ'ed would effect that...my gf's have always complained (not really seriously though), that I'm always getting a boner. And you usually hear of guys cumming too soon...I don't think anyone would complain about taking longer to blow their load.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:08:08 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: Yes, but cancer is a natural event (at least some instances of it). So saying that there's never any excess in nature or biology is just silly.

wisdom teeth?

some people are born with a vestigial tail.

Of course, if I had one, I'd hope I would have kept it

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 02:08:31 PM  
Slartibartfaster: crm114: I don't have any problems with my cut peener, none of the guys with uncut peeners seem to have any problem

I agree with that.

So why do we cut it off our children again ?


Just for looks...

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:08:49 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Totally do it. Nothing like smooth, clean cut balls and cock

my wife likes it like that.
Lots of fun when she helps me do it too

(and unlike my foreskin, it grows back)

Dont go clean shaven though, especially in summer.... it itches when it grows back.


I know! That's why now I do it regularily and I use my gf's moisturizing soap on my legs right afterwards. Haven't had a problem with the itchy or the awful 'red dots' for months.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:09:24 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: Less chance of snagging it in a zipper?

hehehe yea that freaking hurts (getting it unstuck even more so)
But (pardon me I was drunk when I did it) as far as I remember, it wasnt the end bit that got caught.

but I did get to go on those drugs that stop erections for 6 weeks so the stitches would not split (ya know, the same stuff they give for adult circumcision). Kinda worked, but I was 18 at the time, so errr... it didnt always work.

// I think they have better medication for that now

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:10:08 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: So now that I've become a man, I'm all there

look again ;-)
not QUITE all of you is there

You know which bit right ?


Oh I just took a look. Trust me, it's ALL there in ALL its glory.

/this is getting silly (:

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 02:10:35 PM  
flyurchin: Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Totally do it. Nothing like smooth, clean cut balls and cock

my wife likes it like that.
Lots of fun when she helps me do it too

(and unlike my foreskin, it grows back)

Dont go clean shaven though, especially in summer.... it itches when it grows back.

I know! That's why now I do it regularily and I use my gf's moisturizing soap on my legs right afterwards. Haven't had a problem with the itchy or the awful 'red dots' for months.


You can use topical antibiotic ointment like bacitracin and the irritation should go away. Works wonders, I heard it before, and then I read it in Jenna Jameson's book, and decided to test it myself.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:10:38 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Just for looks

you are so concerned about cosmetics... you are a proponent of unnecessary cosmetic surgery on a baby's genitals ? That does not just SOUND wrong ?

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:11:00 PM  
Slartibartfaster: IXI Jim IXI: Less chance of snagging it in a zipper?

hehehe yea that freaking hurts (getting it unstuck even more so)
But (pardon me I was drunk when I did it) as far as I remember, it wasnt the end bit that got caught.

but I did get to go on those drugs that stop erections for 6 weeks so the stitches would not split (ya know, the same stuff they give for adult circumcision). Kinda worked, but I was 18 at the time, so errr... it didnt always work.

// I think they have better medication for that now


jesus, man. Stitches?

 
Jubeebee 2009-07-17 02:11:13 PM  
finnished: Jubeebee: Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

Shave it. Might as well. Let us know how it went.


Fark is not my personal erotica site.

And although nut sucking is a compelling argument, I'm a bit reluctant to drag a razor on my balls. The earlier talk about getting nicks while shaving them does not help either.

 
forresttriax [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:11:25 PM  
Slartibartfaster: IXI Jim IXI: Less chance of snagging it in a zipper?

hehehe yea that freaking hurts (getting it unstuck even more so)
But (pardon me I was drunk when I did it) as far as I remember, it wasnt the end bit that got caught.

but I did get to go on those drugs that stop erections for 6 weeks so the stitches would not split (ya know, the same stuff they give for adult circumcision). Kinda worked, but I was 18 at the time, so errr... it didnt always work.

// I think they have better medication for that now


Franks and beans!

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:11:41 PM  
CrazyCracka420: I read it in Jenna Jameson's book

that book had words in it ?!? darn, I gotta go check that again

 
crm114 2009-07-17 02:11:47 PM  
Slartibartfaster: crm114: I don't have any problems with my cut peener, none of the guys with uncut peeners seem to have any problem

I agree with that.

So why do we cut it off our children again ?


Personal preference of the parents, nothing wrong with that

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 02:11:54 PM  
Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: Just for looks

you are so concerned about cosmetics... you are a proponent of unnecessary cosmetic surgery on a baby's genitals ? That does not just SOUND wrong ?


Yeah it does sound pretty messed up, but there's really no side effects, so I don't think it's that bad.

Maybe I just like mutilating babies, is that really so bad?

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:12:27 PM  
hockeyfarker:

some people are born with a vestigial tail.

Of course, if I had one, I'd hope I would have kept it


Before the first ultrasound, I told my wife that I hoped our baby had a tail, so we could get him a job with the circus. Surprised she didn't kill me in my sleep.

At the ultrasound, the tech said (out of the blue), "Baby looks great. If you had got this two weeks ago, you could have seen a tail." I think she dented my shin with that kick...

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:13:04 PM  
flyurchin:

/this is getting silly (:

Agreed hehehe, but I did have fun (thanks, and have a great day with a smile, you certainly gave me a couple)

We have no where to go from here but "oh yea ? well I got more than you" and Im not confident I could win that won.... even with my copy of ITG handy.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:13:15 PM  
CrazyCracka420: You can use topical antibiotic ointment like bacitracin and the irritation should go away. Works wonders, I heard it before, and then I read it in Jenna Jameson's book, and decided to test it myself.

Good to know. Fortunately, whatever soap it is my gf has has worked so far. And regular shaving really, really helps.

Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: Just for looks

you are so concerned about cosmetics... you are a proponent of unnecessary cosmetic surgery on a baby's genitals ? That does not just SOUND wrong ?


Yeah, see, I hope to never have kids. You never know what they might think of the choice you made for them. I guess I'd probably leave it on, just to avoid complications.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 02:13:41 PM  
Jubeebee: finnished: Jubeebee: Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

Shave it. Might as well. Let us know how it went.

Fark is not my personal erotica site.

And although nut sucking is a compelling argument, I'm a bit reluctant to drag a razor on my balls. The earlier talk about getting nicks while shaving them does not help either.


See my post above (to you). I was worried about shaving my balls originally too, but using bacitracin, it helps a lot. Also, my balls are really smooth (besides the hair), so there's really nothing for the razor to catch on. It's a lot easier than shaving the shaft. But I heard if you do cut your sack shaving, that one of your balls could fall out, so I'd be careful.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:13:54 PM  
Slartibartfaster: hehehe yea that freaking hurts (getting it unstuck even more so)
But (pardon me I was drunk when I did it) as far as I remember, it wasnt the end bit that got caught.

but I did get to go on those drugs that stop erections for 6 weeks so the stitches would not split (ya know, the same stuff they give for adult circumcision). Kinda worked, but I was 18 at the time, so errr... it didnt always work.


Fear of this is a major reason I wore Levi 501's through high school :D

Slartibartfaster: IXI Jim IXI: Less chance of snagging it in a zipper?

hehehe yea that freaking hurts (getting it unstuck even more so)
But (pardon me I was drunk when I did it) as far as I remember, it wasnt the end bit that got caught.

but I did get to go on those drugs that stop erections for 6 weeks so the stitches would not split (ya know, the same stuff they give for adult circumcision). Kinda worked, but I was 18 at the time, so errr... it didnt always work.

// I think they have better medication for that now


Anti-Viagra?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:14:00 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Maybe I just like mutilating babies, is that really so bad?

This is fark

so ... hell no

 
finnished 2009-07-17 02:15:28 PM  
Jubeebee:
Fark is not my personal erotica site.


Come on dude. You want free advice, the least you can do is tell how it went, so other people in the same predicament can make an informed decision next time.

That's what we're here for.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:15:29 PM  
flyurchin:

jesus, man. Stitches?

yeah ok I exaggerated... just one stitch
// still freaking hurt (and bleeding from there is ... something else)

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 02:15:38 PM  
flyurchin: CrazyCracka420: If I could have made the choice as a baby to be circ'ed, I would. I wouldn't as an adult...do you not understand the difference?

Exactly, and I'm glad my parents made that choice.



If only your parents had made the choice to botch your circumcision, cut off your entire junk, cut you a vagina and raise you as a girl, so you could never reproduce. Wouldn't that be even better?

The educational pages within contain close-up pictures of (mutilated) penises..


But Beverly and Gary Sweet's dream took a nightmarish turn only nine days later when they took him back to the hospital for treatment of an infected circumcision and the hospital returned a severely brain-damaged and blind child

Circumcision Surgery Accidents, Complications, and Atrocities

Botched Circumcision...Do or Can I Get A Lawyer? My Son is Suffering...?


All so glad their parents made the decision for them! Except for the first one, he committed suicide, the ungrateful bastard.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 02:15:44 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin:

/this is getting silly (:

Agreed hehehe, but I did have fun (thanks, and have a great day with a smile, you certainly gave me a couple)

We have no where to go from here but "oh yea ? well I got more than you" and Im not confident I could win that won.... even with my copy of ITG handy.


This is one of the sillier threads I've seen, but work has flown by today because of it so I've got that going for me...which is nice

Don't think I'll be having kids, not many women want to see crm114 Jr. in his cut glory.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:15:48 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin:

/this is getting silly (:

Agreed hehehe, but I did have fun (thanks, and have a great day with a smile, you certainly gave me a couple)

We have no where to go from here but "oh yea ? well I got more than you" and Im not confident I could win that won.... even with my copy of ITG handy.


lols. Well, if you're ever in the area, we could confirm and settle this matter. I'm sure that'd be a hoot in itself.

/boner

 
Urinal Gum 2009-07-17 02:16:32 PM  
Um...isn't it horribly irresponsible to suggest these HIV-infected men could have sex at all? Or, is it okay because they are African and disposable?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:17:43 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: Anti-Viagra?

westcoastsuccess.files.wordpress.com

(sorry to those who actually wanted an erection)

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:18:29 PM  
WeenerGord: Circumcision Surgery Accidents, Complications, and Atrocities

yeesh...

Circumcision Death

Sometimes, they just cut too deep.

 
ttintagel 2009-07-17 02:18:49 PM  
Wow, lots of guys in here who don't understand what the word "choice" means.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:19:04 PM  
Slartibartfaster: (sorry to those who actually wanted an erection)

I turtled so hard, I think it hit my spine.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:19:59 PM  
WeenerGord: flyurchin: CrazyCracka420: If I could have made the choice as a baby to be circ'ed, I would. I wouldn't as an adult...do you not understand the difference?

Exactly, and I'm glad my parents made that choice.


If only your parents had made the choice to botch your circumcision, cut off your entire junk, cut you a vagina and raise you as a girl, so you could never reproduce. Wouldn't that be even better?

The educational pages within contain close-up pictures of (mutilated) penises..


But Beverly and Gary Sweet's dream took a nightmarish turn only nine days later when they took him back to the hospital for treatment of an infected circumcision and the hospital returned a severely brain-damaged and blind child

Circumcision Surgery Accidents, Complications, and Atrocities

Botched Circumcision...Do or Can I Get A Lawyer? My Son is Suffering...?

All so glad their parents made the decision for them! Except for the first one, he committed suicide, the ungrateful bastard.


Hmmmm. Well, that's not really what happened to me, as far as I can tell. But yeah, I still applaud my parents' choice.

Also, as I said, I probably wouldn't choose the same for my son, simply to avoid complications.

I, and many other men, have cut cocks, and we're golden. Sometimes bad things happen, sometimes life sucks.

There are many complications that can occur with childbirth. Maybe we should make it illegal?

 
flushdepot 2009-07-17 02:24:52 PM  
It's an extremely painful procedure to go through. I was circumcised the day after I was born and couldn't walk for almost a year.

 
Jubeebee 2009-07-17 02:25:03 PM  
CrazyCracka420: But I heard if you do cut your sack shaving, that one of your balls could fall out, so I'd be careful.

F U

Now I'm going to have nightmares.

 
xenomorpheus [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:25:46 PM  
CrazyCracka420: xenomorpheus: crm114:

I'm circ'ed, I cum just fine, keep an erection fine, and have no problems getting it up. I don't see how being circ'ed would effect that...my gf's have always complained (not really seriously though), that I'm always getting a boner. And you usually hear of guys cumming too soon...I don't think anyone would complain about taking longer to blow their load.


I'm glad to hear your procedure worked fine and you enjoy a normal sex life, as do MOST of them, but not ALL of them.

After pumping away for 30-45 minutes and giving them a few "O's" women usually get sore - lube or no lube, and affected guys are no closer to finishing. And it's always a blow to their ego when they can't get you to cum even if they don't express it.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:26:17 PM  
flushdepot: It's an extremely painful procedure to go through. I was circumcised the day after I was born and couldn't walk for almost a year.

niiiiiiice.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:26:31 PM  
There have been complications in surgery (which is why I would never personally subject my son to it unless it was required)
There have been complications without it (which is why I taught him how to wash, and make sure he dries properly etc...)

My personal (and I agree to disagree with my "friends" here on fark, Im just having fun, so are they I assume) feeling is that no person should go for surgery if they can avoid it... Ive had too much that I DID need to want my son to get stuff he does not need.

I still dont get the "mine looks better" argument. Mine can look "like" yours, and I still have that thing that was "designed intelligently" (evolved) to protect the end bit.... I like my end bit being protected. Call me fussy.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:28:44 PM  
flyurchin: niiiiiiice

dude, dont make fun of his misfortune

Even after that year, he was toddling around for a year with his legs slightly apart (clear sign of trauma) and you should check out the size of the bandaid he had to wear around his butt.

Its just not funny ok ?!? OK ?!?

(ok hehehe that was pretty freaking funny)

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:29:00 PM  
flushdepot: It's an extremely painful procedure to go through. I was circumcised the day after I was born and couldn't walk for almost a year.

too late for that one, chief.

 
GomezAdams [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:30:24 PM  
When does a thread get declared epic? For the logo I suggest a pair of pinking shears.

 
Aidan [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:30:30 PM  
xenomorpheus: After pumping away for 30-45 minutes and giving them a few "O's" women usually get sore - lube or no lube, and affected guys are no closer to finishing. And it's always a blow to their ego when they can't get you to cum even if they don't express it.

Not oral either, from what I read upthread?
That seems... Odd. From my (relatively little) experience, there's a lot more than just the tip that's sensitive. Have you done much experimentation with oral? Trying to target an undamaged area, for example?

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 02:31:25 PM  
Jubeebee: CrazyCracka420: But I heard if you do cut your sack shaving, that one of your balls could fall out, so I'd be careful.

F U

Now I'm going to have nightmares.


I can testefy that I have never lost a nut to personal hygiene.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 02:32:06 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: hockeyfarker:

some people are born with a vestigial tail.

Of course, if I had one, I'd hope I would have kept it

Before the first ultrasound, I told my wife that I hoped our baby had a tail, so we could get him a job with the circus. Surprised she didn't kill me in my sleep.

At the ultrasound, the tech said (out of the blue), "Baby looks great. If you had got this two weeks ago, you could have seen a tail." I think she dented my shin with that kick...


Geek Love by Katherine Dunn. Read. Enjoy. Leave it out for your wife to find. :D

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 02:32:22 PM  
Urinal Gum

Um...isn't it horribly irresponsible to suggest these HIV-infected men could have sex at all? Or, is it okay because they are African and disposable?

Wow someone's discussing the article...

BOO THIS MAN!

img403.imageshack.us


Honestly, I was wondering the same thing...why didn't they have the men use condoms...wouldn't that have been responsible, and prevented them from giving women aids? But i guess their Africans, and it's women we're talking about, so who cares, amirite?

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:32:31 PM  
Slartibartfaster: I still dont get the "mine looks better" argument. Mine can look "like" yours, and I still have that thing that was "designed intelligently" (evolved) to protect the end bit.... I like my end bit being protected. Call me fussy.

While I think one cock can look better than another, I doubt that foreskin alone could be the deciding factor (unless it were a really nice or really ugly foreskin).

But you think that baby protects you? I think one swift tap to the tip would have both of us recoiling.

 
J. Frank Parnell 2009-07-17 02:32:44 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: A population outbreeding its food source is another example of excess regarding nature and biology.

We could easily feed the entire planet now. The main reason it's not done is because it would drive market prices down and a starving country is easy to control. Sure, some people like to pretend it's the teeming masses who screwed everything up, and the rich and powerful only ever thought of the greater good, but that's delusional and naive.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:32:49 PM  
wyrlss: testefy

he you spelled.... oh... I see what you did there

// pet peeve ?

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 02:33:31 PM  
xenomorpheus: CrazyCracka420: xenomorpheus: crm114:

I'm circ'ed, I cum just fine, keep an erection fine, and have no problems getting it up. I don't see how being circ'ed would effect that...my gf's have always complained (not really seriously though), that I'm always getting a boner. And you usually hear of guys cumming too soon...I don't think anyone would complain about taking longer to blow their load.

I'm glad to hear your procedure worked fine and you enjoy a normal sex life, as do MOST of them, but not ALL of them.

After pumping away for 30-45 minutes and giving them a few "O's" women usually get sore - lube or no lube, and affected guys are no closer to finishing. And it's always a blow to their ego when they can't get you to cum even if they don't express it.


Yeah it would be a very big blow to their egos. Just don't let them come until you're ready :)

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:34:31 PM  
flyurchin: I think one swift tap to the tip would have both of us recoiling

sure, but a pair of 501s, going commando... I got an extra layer, ya know ?

But... it would be a good test, who wants to referee ? (and who wants to license the footage for kink.com ?)

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:36:23 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Yeah it would be a very big blow to their egos

Australian joke (at least I was in that country when I heard it)

Ya know why women fake their orgasms ?
They think we care.

// Australian humor is fun, but Im a New Zealander

Link (new window)

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:37:54 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: I think one swift tap to the tip would have both of us recoiling

sure, but a pair of 501s, going commando... I got an extra layer, ya know ?

But... it would be a good test, who wants to referee ? (and who wants to license the footage for kink.com ?)


Hey now, you're the one with the stitch. Over here, my mushroom is unscathed!

/happy head

 
Garble 2009-07-17 02:38:48 PM  
Slartibartfaster
I still dont get the "mine looks better" argument. Mine can look "like" yours

People are ignorant of that fact, so they still make that really stupid argument.

The one I *really* don't get? "It should look like his father's". Just what kind of farked up family photos are you people taking?

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 02:38:53 PM  
Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: Yeah it would be a very big blow to their egos

Australian joke (at least I was in that country when I heard it)

Ya know why women fake their orgasms ?
They think we care.

// Australian humor is fun, but Im a New Zealander

Link (new window)


That is funny, but I'd be disappointed if I couldn't bring a girl to orgasm. I like getting my rocks off, but I love making women cum.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:39:57 PM  
flyurchin: happy head

That stitch dissolved a couple of decades ago
My mushroom is .... well hopefully free of fungii (ok damn Im sorry, but not sorry enough to delete that)

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:40:40 PM  
Garble: Just what kind of farked up family photos are you people taking?

OK hehehe, NOW Im glad my keyboard is waterproofed.

 
oogmar 2009-07-17 02:41:09 PM  
Crewmannumber6: trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

*ahem*......How YOU doin'?


No, there are actually a lot of us. The sex is way better, too. So if the visual on an anteater doesn't quite do it for you like the naked mole-rat cock, at least you know that the sex will be better with the former than the latter.

/foreskin tends to act like a French Tickler.
//I used to be freaked out by the uncut because I had no idea what the fark I was talking about, now I've learned.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:42:11 PM  
CrazyCracka420: That is funny, but I'd be disappointed if I couldn't bring a girl to orgasm. I like getting my rocks off, but I love making women cum.

I'm with you on the women thing, but I still think I'd get pretty f-ing frustrated if I couldn't feel something nice too.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 02:42:42 PM  
CrazyCracka420:
After pumping away for 30-45 minutes and giving them a few "O's" women usually get sore - lube or no lube, and affected guys are no closer to finishing. And it's always a blow to their ego when they can't get you to cum even if they don't express it.


They get the o, the guy obviously cares or feels good enough to put it in and do the work, and it's a blow to their ego when they can keep a guy hard for 45 minutes when he knows he can't cum?

 
vinn01 2009-07-17 02:42:43 PM  
From what I've read, many women will not perform oral on an uncut guy. I can guess many reasons; cleanliness, looks, "mystery folds", etc.

/ Are you uncut guys getting your share?
// Ladies, are you equal in giving with uncut guys?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:43:31 PM  
CrazyCracka420: I like getting my rocks off, but I love making women cum.

mutually connected as far as Im concerned
If I make her cum, I get to get my rocks off again later :-)

Vive la difference

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:43:58 PM  
oogmar: Crewmannumber6: trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

*ahem*......How YOU doin'?

No, there are actually a lot of us. The sex is way better, too. So if the visual on an anteater doesn't quite do it for you like the naked mole-rat cock, at least you know that the sex will be better with the former than the latter.

/foreskin tends to act like a French Tickler.
//I used to be freaked out by the uncut because I had no idea what the fark I was talking about, now I've learned.


Ummmmmmmmmmmm. I have reason to believe that being uncut does not a good lover make. I also have reason to believe that being cut doesn't necessarily make a man not a good farking lay.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:45:50 PM  
vinn01: Are you uncut guys getting your share

Married 15 years... and yep :) (two stereotypes shot down ?)

As far as I know, the older social taboo was that they smell bad. Im told that cut ones smell the same.... if you dont clean em (and she was a slut, god bless her, she would know)

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:46:01 PM  
J. Frank Parnell: We could easily feed the entire planet now. The main reason it's not done is because it would drive market prices down and a starving country is easy to control. Sure, some people like to pretend it's the teeming masses who screwed everything up, and the rich and powerful only ever thought of the greater good, but that's delusional and naive.

I wasn't talking about humans.

 
Masso 2009-07-17 02:46:18 PM  
I learned about circumcision when I was 15 from Bible teacher (was studying at a Christian school). My first thought was ...God wants boy's penis?

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:47:03 PM  
Slartibartfaster: vinn01: Are you uncut guys getting your share

Married 15 years... and yep :) (two stereotypes shot down ?)

As far as I know, the older social taboo was that they smell bad. Im told that cut ones smell the same.... if you dont clean em (and she was a slut, god bless her, she would know)


Both my gf and I love my smell. I think a bad smelling cock is a f-ing curse.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:47:27 PM  
flyurchin: I have reason to believe that being uncut does not a good lover make. I also have reason to believe that being cut doesn't necessarily make a man not a good farking lay.

Hi I'm Captain Jack Harkness, how YOU doin ?

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 02:48:39 PM  
flyurchin:
I, and many other men, have cut cocks, and we're have to pretend that we are golden. Sometimes bad things happen, sometimes life sucks.

There are many complications that can occur with childbirth. Maybe we should make it illegal?


Well, if the baby doesn't come out, they both die. Do you think that if the foreskin isn't amputated the baby boy will die? So it's not the same, except...if more first born sons were murdered by God, there might be fewer pregnancies, so yeah....why not sacrifice your first born male son to prevent any future pregnancies? It's in the Bible, so it's ok. You obviously have a desire to inflict unjustified pain on some innocent. This is likely a result of your early trauma

FTA
Psychological impacts of male circumcision
Perinatal trauma. Circumcision is a form of perinatal (birth) trauma.34 Cansever tested boys before and after circumcision and found that the trauma causes severe disturbance of normal function.5 Taddio and others have documented behavioral changes at six months of age, suggestive of PTSD in circumcised boys.36 Yilmaz et al. have demonstrated PTSD in boys in the phallic period who are undergoing circumcision for phimosis.53 Rhinehart has documented posttraumatic stress disorder resulting from the perinatal trauma of circumcision in middle-aged males.47 substantial evidence that perinatal trauma15,32,44,45,46,48,51,56 and/or deprivation of pleasure7,18 contribute to later aggressive, violent, and/or suicidal behaviour. Anand and Scalzo suggest that early trauma predisposes to altered pain sensitivity, stress disorders, ADD/hyperactivity, and self-destructive disorders.64 Van der Kolk identified a compulsion in traumatized persons to repeat the trauma.17 Goldman reports that the performance of circumcision by a circumcised male doctor may be a reenactment of one's own circumcision trauma.46

Denial of loss. Persons who have lost body parts must grieve their loss.40,41,42,44 The first stage of grief is denial of the loss.24 Fitzgerald and Parkes state that "Anything that seriously impairs sensory or cognitive function is bound to have profound psychological effects, not only on the person who is affected but also on family, friends, workmates, and caregivers."41 The thought of permanent loss of sensory function is so painful that persons deny their loss in order to avoid facing the painful feelings.41 Denial of loss causes a flight from reality. Parkes et al. state that persons in denial may minimize their loss.40,41,42 Circumcision causes the loss of a body part and all of its functions including a drastic loss of erogenous sensory function, so denial of loss is not uncommon in circumcised males. Circumcised males may experience the full range of distress and emotional dysfunction resulting from loss. This frequently results in circumcised fathers adamantly insisting that a son be circumcised.24,28, 56

Fathers are frequently unable to vocalize their feelings. They will say that "I want my son to look like me," even though the child may be different in eye color, hair color, and other aspects. In fact, what the father really may be feeling is, "I don't want a son with an intact penis to remind me of what I have lost."

Effects of denial on medical doctors. Goldman states that some circumcised male medical doctors misuse the medical literature to support, rationalize, and justify their own loss; and to defend the practice of circumcision.46 Denniston reports that doctors "who have been cut themselves may be unable to stop cutting others."28 LeBourdais reports that the likelihood of a baby being circumcised is determined by the circumcision status of the a father; the sex, age, and circumcision status of the physician; amongst other factors. Goldman reports that doctors who are older, male, and circumcised are more likely to condone circumcision.46 Members of medical societies may have emotional issues that may preclude the objective formulation of policy concerning non-therapeutic male circumcision.54
and
Prescott argues that the early genital pain of circumcision "encodes" the brain for later sadomasochistic tendencies, including violent destructive behaviours.18

also

Botched circumcisions kill 33 boys in South Africa

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:48:56 PM  
flyurchin: Both my gf and I love my smell.

Nothing better than that new-cock smell?

 
TMBGfreak 2009-07-17 02:49:08 PM  
CrazyCracka420: IXI Jim IXI: CrazyCracka420: and there won't be any lasting effects, other than a penis that's streamlined for efficient f*cking.

efficient f*cking?

You sound like the Protestants from the Every Sperm is Sacred sketch from Meaning of Life...

It's a joke...I put racing stripes on my penis too. Less wind resistance.


I put a Type R sticker on mine to give it more horsepower and look extarodinary by riced out Asian standards.

/cut
//Had to get a ball lopped off, too
///nobody cares

 
o5iiawah 2009-07-17 02:49:32 PM  
There are women on FARK?

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:51:06 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: I have reason to believe that being uncut does not a good lover make. I also have reason to believe that being cut doesn't necessarily make a man not a good farking lay.

Hi I'm Captain Jack Harkness, how YOU doin ?


I miss the reference. Please illuminate!

 
Aidan [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:51:41 PM  
TMBGfreak: I put a Type R sticker on mine to give it more horsepower and look extarodinary by riced out Asian standards.

I laughed. Then I took notes.

 
crm114 2009-07-17 02:52:23 PM  
o5iiawah: There are women on FARK?

Quick everyone suck in your gut

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:53:13 PM  
WeenerGord: Botched circumcisions kill 33 boys in South Africa

What did they use? Explosives?

 
GomezAdams [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:54:03 PM  
IXI Jim IXI

You sound like the Protestants from the Every Sperm is Sacred sketch from Meaning of Life...


They weren't Protestants, they were supposedly Irish Catholics. Protestants could use birth control... Catholics are not supposed to.

 
oogmar 2009-07-17 02:55:23 PM  
vinn01: From what I've read, many women will not perform oral on an uncut guy. I can guess many reasons; cleanliness, looks, "mystery folds", etc.

/ Are you uncut guys getting your share?
// Ladies, are you equal in giving with uncut guys?


Every single day. If the man has been out being active, if we've gone for a particularly long skate, if he hasn't gotten around to the shower yet that day, then usually we'll both just hop in the shower (since uncut penises and left alone vaginas are pretty similar in how long it takes them to no longer be "fresh"). It's a little trickier of an operation, but it's not rocket science. Also, if I'm feeling particularly contrary on any given day and don't quite feel up to swallowing, rolling the skin forward and applying slight pressure makes a great cum catch.

/"Many women" are idiots who are neglecting a man for having a more pleasurable package. Stupid, stupid women.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:55:27 PM  
GomezAdams: IXI Jim IXI

You sound like the Protestants from the Every Sperm is Sacred sketch from Meaning of Life...

They weren't Protestants, they were supposedly Irish Catholics. Protestants could use birth control... Catholics are not supposed to.


Did you skip ahead after the song was finished or something?

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:55:43 PM  
WeenerGord: all that stuff you wrote

Look, unless you're my psychoanalyst, I don't appreciate being told what I do or do not feel about my own cock. Trust me, I don't have to pretend to love it or to love the fact that it's cut.

I'm not trying to deny that there are complications both physical and psychological that can arise from getting your sex skin chopped off. I'm not trying to deny that there's no real reason to do it. As I said earlier, I probably wouldn't do it to my son. But as I've grown into the man I am, I've considered the question of circumcision, and I've accepted mine and come to appreciate my physical, biological sex machine.

What do you know otherwise and why would you stoop to telling a stranger what he really does feel about his cock?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:55:47 PM  
flyurchin: I miss the reference. Please illuminate!

BBC Torchwood, cool series.... he likes the new cock smell (when he is not sniffing pussy)

Look it up, I recommend it (Im not doing the "go look it up" I mean.... I recommend it)

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:56:10 PM  
Wow...almost 500 posts, and nobody's mentioned smegma yet.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:57:48 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: Wow...almost 500 posts, and nobody's mentioned smegma yet.

I was gonna post this earlier:

Link

It's an important medical study. on smegma.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:57:59 PM  
flyurchin: WeenerGord: all that stuff you wrote

Look, unless you're my psychoanalyst, I don't appreciate being told what I do or do not feel about my own cock. Trust me, I don't have to pretend to love it or to love the fact that it's cut.

I'm not trying to deny that there are complications both physical and psychological that can arise from getting your sex skin chopped off. I'm not trying to deny that there's no real reason to do it. As I said earlier, I probably wouldn't do it to my son. But as I've grown into the man I am, I've considered the question of circumcision, and I've accepted mine and come to appreciate my physical, biological sex machine.

What do you know otherwise and why would you stoop to telling a stranger what he really does feel about his cock?


Read his post, and put it against the bolded bit... I think (although Im not sure) that is what he meant.

 
TheBigJerk 2009-07-17 02:58:10 PM  
Gwendolyn: Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

You have just been farkied as shot glass foreskin.


Don't GIS for that.

 
GomezAdams [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 02:58:41 PM  
IXI Jim IXI
Did you skip ahead after the song was finished or something?


No... just going on memory. Must pull out the DVD and have another look then.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 02:59:08 PM  
WeenerGord: still that stuff you wrote

Also, I don't care what the Bible says, and I think that my childbirth comment still stands. Maybe I should have said pregnancy.

You have a choice about getting pregnant, but be forwarned, it may adversly affect your health, your relationship, your sexual activity, and the rest of your life. If it's so potentially damaging, I guess we should make it illegal, amirite?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:00:00 PM  
hockeyfarker: It's an important medical study. on smegma

yea.... wash that out
.... circ'd guys generate that too

fortunately we live in an era with things like showers, and are not wandering a very small desert for 40 years (wtf moses..... its THAT way dude, totally THAT way)

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:00:50 PM  
flyurchin: I guess we should make it illegal, amirite?

Call me an outlaw.... it just feels sexier

 
paloma [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:01:33 PM  
o5iiawah:
There are women on FARK?


of course not. just a lot of men who, for some inexplicable reason, really, really like talking about circumcision. there's a thread every few weeks on this... i just don't get it.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 03:01:44 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: WeenerGord: Botched circumcisions kill 33 boys in South Africa

What did they use? Explosives?



Piranha fish. But don't worry, it's only negroes, like in the study FTFA.

Also, wouldn't want to deprive burn wards of raw materials
Foreskin contains both the dermis and epidermis layers of skin, making it ideal for skin transplants and burn reconstruction. A single foreskin can generate a square meter of skin

 
GomezAdams [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:02:26 PM  
This matches what I recall...

DAD:
There are Jews in the world.
There are Buddhists.
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, but
I've never been one of them.

I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is:
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.

You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
You don't have to have any clothes on. You're
A Catholic the moment Dad came,


Because

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

CHILDREN:
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:03:19 PM  
flyurchin: I guess we should make it illegal, amirite?

to be fair here

pregnancy is directly responsible for the existence of our species (and all mammals at least)

Chopping the end off of a babies genitals ?!? not so much.

(I cant even imagine deliberately causing harm to my son without my nuts jumping up into my stomach and my adrenaline levels rising.... I guess others are more comfortable with deliberately causing traumatic pain to their children, for essentially cosmetic reasons... do they have their daughters silicone installed at birth too ?)

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 03:03:44 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: WeenerGord: all that stuff you wrote

Look, unless you're my psychoanalyst, I don't appreciate being told what I do or do not feel about my own cock. Trust me, I don't have to pretend to love it or to love the fact that it's cut.

I'm not trying to deny that there are complications both physical and psychological that can arise from getting your sex skin chopped off. I'm not trying to deny that there's no real reason to do it. As I said earlier, I probably wouldn't do it to my son. But as I've grown into the man I am, I've considered the question of circumcision, and I've accepted mine and come to appreciate my physical, biological sex machine.

What do you know otherwise and why would you stoop to telling a stranger what he really does feel about his cock?

Read his post, and put it against the bolded bit... I think (although Im not sure) that is what he meant.


I did read it. I'm not trying to deny what I lost, nor am I trying to use the Bible or medical literature to make up for it. I believe I've accepted my cut, and that I do love my cock. My love, respect, and appreciation of it has grown with experience and age. I'm proud that I have a cock that behaves well, looks great, and feels good. I want to keep it healthy and active. I'm personally very attached to it.

If there are unconcious concerns I have with my cock, I doubt that circumcision is the sole cause. But what I doubt even more is that Mr. WeenerGord knows anything about them.

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 03:03:55 PM  
paloma: o5iiawah:
There are women on FARK?

of course not. just a lot of men who, for some inexplicable reason, really, really like talking about circumcision. there's a thread every few weeks on this... i just don't get it.


I think it's part of an upcoming social/economic revolution. Also included in this revolution is a reconciliation of healthcare, employment, and drug laws.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 03:04:49 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: I guess we should make it illegal, amirite?

to be fair here

pregnancy is directly responsible for the existence of our species (and all mammals at least)

Chopping the end off of a babies genitals ?!? not so much.

(I cant even imagine deliberately causing harm to my son without my nuts jumping up into my stomach and my adrenaline levels rising.... I guess others are more comfortable with deliberately causing traumatic pain to their children, for essentially cosmetic reasons... do they have their daughters silicone installed at birth too ?)


Well, in all fairness, the propegation and reproduction of our species isn't necessary, just like circumcision.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:05:46 PM  
WeenerGord: Also, wouldn't want to deprive burn wards of raw materials

You sound like the kinda person who might have links to this. But I heard not only is it quite healthy skin to use (different to other skin because it faces inwards not just outwards)... and there were some stem cell potentials on it.

.... but you dont have to chop it off to take a graft... its there for a reason (as you state)

 
xenomorpheus [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:06:42 PM  
crm114: CrazyCracka420:

They get the o, the guy obviously cares or feels good enough to put it in and do the work, and it's a blow to their ego when they can keep a guy hard for 45 minutes when he knows he can't cum?


Yes, I agree, it doesn't make any logical sense on the surface, but that is how things actually are.

 
Egalitarian [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:07:00 PM  
CIRCUMCISION THREAD!

Didn't RTFA or the thread because I know how this usually goes:

Farkers: HOW DARE YOU CUT BABBY PENIS!

Farkettes: LOL NOONE CAREZ ABOUT FORESKIN. WOMENZ CAN HAZ CLITORIS?

Farkers: CHICKS WHO ARGUE WITH ME ARE FAT AND DON'T HAVE ORGASMS

Farkettes: ORLY?

\ad nauseum

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 03:07:37 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: I miss the reference. Please illuminate!

BBC Torchwood, cool series.... he likes the new cock smell (when he is not sniffing pussy)

Look it up, I recommend it (Im not doing the "go look it up" I mean.... I recommend it)


Torchwood? I think I've heard of it. And if it has a guy who loves cock smell, then it must have some merit! I'll look it up later.

 
Garble 2009-07-17 03:08:08 PM  
paloma: o5iiawah:
There are women on FARK?
of course not. just a lot of men who, for some inexplicable reason, really, really like talking about circumcision. there's a thread every few weeks on this... i just don't get it.


It's an important subject that's worthy of serious debate and mature discussion.

PENIS!
sorry

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:08:26 PM  
flyurchin: I believe I've accepted my cut, and that I do love my cock. My love, respect, and appreciation of it has grown with experience and age

hehehe healthy male mentality (either that, or Im freaking sick)

flyurchin: But what I doubt even more is that Mr. WeenerGord knows anything about them.

He is claiming to the god of weeners... oh wait, gord... hmmmm

(not aimed at you specifically)

If you think that cutting off the end of the dick of your kid is a good idea, and you cannot come up with a better reason than cosmetics, then it all comes down to this (for me) "if you impose unnecessary surgery on your child, you suck as a human being"

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 03:09:09 PM  
Egalitarian: CIRCUMCISION THREAD!

Didn't RTFA or the thread because I know how this usually goes:

Farkers: HOW DARE YOU CUT BABBY PENIS!

Farkettes: LOL NOONE CAREZ ABOUT FORESKIN. WOMENZ CAN HAZ CLITORIS?

Farkers: CHICKS WHO ARGUE WITH ME ARE FAT AND DON'T HAVE ORGASMS

Farkettes: ORLY?

\ad nauseum


Been a bit different. I've talked a lot about how much I love my cock. So has Slartibartfaster. And we're like the odd couple, since I'm cut and he isn't. It's been superb.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 03:11:39 PM  
Slartibartfaster: If you think that cutting off the end of the dick of your kid is a good idea, and you cannot come up with a better reason than cosmetics, then it all comes down to this (for me) "if you impose unnecessary surgery on your child, you suck as a human being"

I mean, that's kinda what it comes down to for me when I think of what I would do if I had a baby boy. I like mine a lot, but why the extra risk if there's really no point.

Either way, I think it's perfectly possible to grow up and learn to love who you are and what you got. Unless you have micropenis. That just sucks.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 03:12:43 PM  
flyurchin: WeenerGord: all that stuff you wrote
Look, unless you're my psychoanalyst, I don't appreciate being told what I do or do not feel about my own cock. Trust me, I don't have to pretend to love it or to love the fact that it's cut.
I'm not trying to deny that there are complications both physical and psychological that can arise from getting your sex skin chopped off. I'm not trying to deny that there's no real reason to do it. As I said earlier, I probably wouldn't do it to my son. But as I've grown into the man I am, I've considered the question of circumcision, and I've accepted mine and come to appreciate my physical, biological sex machine.
What do you know otherwise and why would you stoop to telling a stranger what he really does feel about his cock?



The truth hurts, doesn't it? Your butthurt reaction is proof that you do mourn the loss of your foreskin, and are angry that you were not given a choice.



Also, I don't care what the Bible says, and I think that my childbirth comment still stands. Maybe I should have said pregnancy.
You have a choice about getting pregnant, but be forwarned, it may adversly affect your health, your relationship, your sexual activity, and the rest of your life. If it's so potentially damaging, I guess we should make it illegal, amirite?


It is a regrettable fact of base human nature that those who have been abused will seek victims weaker than themselves to lash out at. Wanting to attack pregnant women and unborn children in indirect retaliation for your infant genital mutilation just marks you as a violent scumbag who has not, as yet, actually come to terms with your circumcision.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:13:44 PM  
Slartibartfaster: yea.... wash that out
.... circ'd guys generate that too


Your sense of humour was born without a spinal cord or something. no one gives a shiat about your smegma, dude. really, you can wash it out? fascinating, tell us more!

The point is THEY HAVE SCIENTIFIC STUDIES ON SMEGMA. THAT IS FUNNY.

gawd.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:17:24 PM  
hockeyfarker: dude. really, you can wash it out? fascinating, tell us more

smegma was the name we used in the early 70s for the dead skin which forms a white particulate that ... is essentially just dead skin to wash out

it got a bit funnier after a BBC series started using it as slang

but yea, told you more ?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:18:15 PM  
flyurchin: I think it's perfectly possible to grow up and learn to love who you are and what you got

if it is not... imagine what would happen to fark !!

 
BenchPress 2009-07-17 03:19:40 PM  
A cut wiener just plain looks better.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 03:21:02 PM  
WeenerGord: The truth hurts, doesn't it? Your butthurt reaction is proof that you do mourn the loss of your foreskin, and are angry that you were not given a choice.

See, I thought my reaction was pretty well-thought out and addressed your condesending points without being angry about it. Again, I think that if I were unconsciously angry at my parents about anything, you probably wouldn't know what it is, and circumcision probably wouldn't be the first thing.

It is a regrettable fact of base human nature that those who have been abused will seek victims weaker than themselves to lash out at. Wanting to attack pregnant women and unborn children in indirect retaliation for your infant genital mutilation just marks you as a violent scumbag who has not, as yet, actually come to terms with your circumcision.

I'm really not a violent guy, so no cause for concern. Also, my pregnancy example was not a view I hold, but an example. It's outlandishness was to illustrate the outlandishness of your posts that were directed mainly at me.

Or you could just be a troll or whatever.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:24:19 PM  
Slartibartfaster: is essentially just dead skin to wash out

Actually, smegma is composed of secretions of ectopic sebaceous glands in the prepuce mixed with secretions of the prostate, seminal vesicles, mucin from the urethral glands, and desquamated epithelial cells. So it's only part dead skin.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 03:24:21 PM  
: flyurchin: WeenerGord: all that stuff you wrote
What do you know otherwise and why would you stoop to telling a stranger what he really does feel about his cock?


Out of kindness, or pity, to you, so that you can face the truth and stop lying to yourself and others about how great circumcision is.

Slartibartfaster:Read his post, and put it against the bolded bit... I think (although Im not sure) that is what he meant.

I don't know what you mean by that, but I approve of your defense of the foreskin in this thread.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 03:26:52 PM  
WeenerGord: : flyurchin: WeenerGord: all that stuff you wrote
What do you know otherwise and why would you stoop to telling a stranger what he really does feel about his cock?

Out of kindness, or pity, to you, so that you can face the truth and stop lying to yourself and others about how great circumcision is.


Oh you farking bastard! Good work, good work. You didn't get my blood pressure up in the slightest, but you did make me take time out of my day to try to respond to your posts with thought and care, so I guess you got me hook, line, and sinker.

/bastard

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 03:32:06 PM  
GomezAdams: This matches what I recall...

DAD:
There are Jews in the world.
There are Buddhists.
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, but
I've never been one of them.

I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is:
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.

You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
You don't have to have any clothes on. You're
A Catholic the moment Dad came,

Because

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

CHILDREN:
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.


As an ex-Catholic, heathen and blasphemer I always get a kick out of these ideas.

I tell my gf I'm still a good Catholic, cuz she's on the pill, and I cum inside her. If Jesus asks, I'm trying my best to get her preggo.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:32:42 PM  
BIG TEXT IS BIG

 
Control_this [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:32:55 PM  
BenchPress: A cut wiener just plain looks better.

Stop staring at me in the locker room.

 
sisterinarms 2009-07-17 03:34:11 PM  
sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.


You realize you just admitted to all of us you have mental problems right?

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 03:34:21 PM  
Control_this: BenchPress: A cut wiener just plain looks better.

Stop staring at me in the locker room.


It's just so beautiful.

 
BenchPress 2009-07-17 03:35:12 PM  
The first time I saw cut wieners was when the high school soccer team entered the football players' shower room because their shower room was being repaired. I was 14. Imagine my chagrin.

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 03:35:57 PM  
BenchPress: A cut wiener just plain looks better.

better than... a pussy?
i12.photobucket.com

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 03:36:02 PM  
WeenerGord: flyurchin: WeenerGord: all that stuff you wrote
Look, unless you're my psychoanalyst, I don't appreciate being told what I do or do not feel about my own cock. Trust me, I don't have to pretend to love it or to love the fact that it's cut.
I'm not trying to deny that there are complications both physical and psychological that can arise from getting your sex skin chopped off. I'm not trying to deny that there's no real reason to do it. As I said earlier, I probably wouldn't do it to my son. But as I've grown into the man I am, I've considered the question of circumcision, and I've accepted mine and come to appreciate my physical, biological sex machine.
What do you know otherwise and why would you stoop to telling a stranger what he really does feel about his cock?


The truth hurts, doesn't it? Your butthurt reaction is proof that you do mourn the loss of your foreskin, and are angry that you were not given a choice.



Also, I don't care what the Bible says, and I think that my childbirth comment still stands. Maybe I should have said pregnancy.
You have a choice about getting pregnant, but be forwarned, it may adversly affect your health, your relationship, your sexual activity, and the rest of your life. If it's so potentially damaging, I guess we should make it illegal, amirite?


It is a regrettable fact of base human nature that those who have been abused will seek victims weaker than themselves to lash out at. Wanting to attack pregnant women and unborn children in indirect retaliation for your infant genital mutilation just marks you as a violent scumbag who has not, as yet, actually come to terms with your circumcision.


haha this tool is hilarious...what flyurchin said in response wasn't butt hurt, it was well thought out, and seemed to be pretty neutral when it comes to emotions. Your over the top reaction is pretty funny. He even said he wouldn't circ his kid, so your point about attacking unborn babies and pregnant women, is pretty retarded. But so we're clear, the baby is born, and it has nothing to do with the mother. Don't let that stop your horrible attempt at a troll though.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:36:15 PM  
hockeyfarker: It's an important medical study. on smegma.

You were holding out on us?!

Smeg-head...:D

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 03:36:57 PM  
BenchPress: The first time I saw cut wieners was when the high school soccer team entered the football players' shower room because their shower room was being repaired. I was 14. Imagine my chagrin.

Yeah, I remember learning about "uncircumcision" when I was like 10 or 11. I couldn't believe it.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 03:37:50 PM  
flyurchin: WeenerGord: : flyurchin: WeenerGord: all that stuff you wrote
What do you know otherwise and why would you stoop to telling a stranger what he really does feel about his cock?

Out of kindness, or pity, to you, so that you can face the truth and stop lying to yourself and others about how great circumcision is.

Oh you farking bastard! Good work, good work. You didn't get my blood pressure up in the slightest, but you did make me take time out of my day to try to respond to your posts with thought and care, so I guess you got me hook, line, and sinker.
/bastard


Now, now. I didn't cut your penis. I just presented the discussion to you in such a way that you could recognize your buried, subconscious anger about it. Someday, you will thank me.

Again, I think that if I were unconsciously angry at my parents about anything, you probably wouldn't know what it is, and circumcision probably wouldn't be the first thing.

If you want to talk about those things, I think we are all willing to listen and support you here.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 03:38:49 PM  
I'm still sticking my kid with my my racing striped, aerodynamic penis preference.
He might be an outcast in 20 years when people stop doing it (since it's pointless), but at least he'll have a pretty looking penis to hold on to.

 
sisterinarms 2009-07-17 03:38:59 PM  
Liquid Ass Fart Spray: Crewmannumber6: sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

So some other dudes checked out your junk. If you are into that then that's a plus but if not then who cares?


To the girls that made you the unique one in a sea of the same.

 
BenchPress 2009-07-17 03:39:44 PM  
Because the soccer team were all Hispanic, you see . . .

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 03:40:45 PM  
WeenerGord: flyurchin: WeenerGord: : flyurchin: WeenerGord: all that stuff you wrote
What do you know otherwise and why would you stoop to telling a stranger what he really does feel about his cock?

Out of kindness, or pity, to you, so that you can face the truth and stop lying to yourself and others about how great circumcision is.

Oh you farking bastard! Good work, good work. You didn't get my blood pressure up in the slightest, but you did make me take time out of my day to try to respond to your posts with thought and care, so I guess you got me hook, line, and sinker.
/bastard

Now, now. I didn't cut your penis. I just presented the discussion to you in such a way that you could recognize your buried, subconscious anger about it. Someday, you will thank me.

Again, I think that if I were unconsciously angry at my parents about anything, you probably wouldn't know what it is, and circumcision probably wouldn't be the first thing.

If you want to talk about those things, I think we are all willing to listen and support you here.


He never said how great circumcision is...I think it's just an aesthetic preference.

Why are you so angry that you're circumcision flap is bigger than your penis? You can't help it...and it's no need to use large letters to get your angry points across.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:41:25 PM  
I would say the guy who feels the need to use unnecessarily large font always loses the internet argument. always.

 
I agree with you 2009-07-17 03:41:51 PM  
damn guys,,,nuttin but a lil skin, geez

 
sisterinarms 2009-07-17 03:42:27 PM  
DipsomaniacDawg: sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

Heh. I've got a British co-worker who loves to get on his high horse about this one. He says "it's genital mutilation and the child has no say in the matter. It should be illegal. Only people in the US and Israel get this done" blah blah blah.

I didn't argue much back. I just told him that my dick is pretty and his looks like it's used for frosting baked goods. The end.


Hahaha! Good comeback...However, I want my cake frosted not something that just sits there & looks pretty.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:43:14 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: You were holding out on us?!

Smeg-head...:D


Hey, at least we haven't gotten to fromunda!

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 03:43:24 PM  
CrazyCracka420: I'm still sticking my kid with my racing striped, aerodynamic penis.
He might be an outcast in 20 years when people stop doing it (since it's pointless), but at least he'll have a pretty weird-looking penis to hold on to.


You know racing stripes usually go long-way, not in a discolored circle of scar tissue around the vehicle, right?

 
Nightmaretony 2009-07-17 03:43:56 PM  
Cutting humpr day on Fark.

Griffer: you have a 50/50 chance.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 03:45:30 PM  
wyrlss: CrazyCracka420: I'm still sticking my kid with my racing striped, aerodynamic penis.
He might be an outcast in 20 years when people stop doing it (since it's pointless), but at least he'll have a pretty weird-looking penis to hold on to.

You know racing stripes usually go long-way, not in a discolored circle of scar tissue around the vehicle, right?


What are you talking about? I put racing stripe stickers on my penis...you sick pervert. Guess you've never heard the benefits of racing stripes on cars (They make them go faster, and more aerodynamic).

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 03:46:43 PM  
Oh ya, I forgot to say, Imma butta yo muffin.

Got a laugh from the girl when I said that, I was like "eh", and she goes oh I thought you said BLOODY your muffin :)

 
wyrlss 2009-07-17 03:47:29 PM  
CrazyCracka420: wyrlss: CrazyCracka420: I'm still sticking my kid with my racing striped, aerodynamic penis.
He might be an outcast in 20 years when people stop doing it (since it's pointless), but at least he'll have a pretty weird-looking penis to hold on to.

You know racing stripes usually go long-way, not in a discolored circle of scar tissue around the vehicle, right?

What are you talking about? I put racing stripe stickers on my penis...you sick pervert. Guess you've never heard the benefits of racing stripes on cars (They make them go faster, and more aerodynamic).


I suppose that may be possible, I'd need to see the studies, but I know the red ones go the fastest regardless. I'm not sure how redness affects aerodynamics, though.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 03:54:17 PM  
WeenerGord: Now, now. I didn't cut your penis. I just presented the discussion to you in such a way that you could recognize your buried, subconscious anger about it. Someday, you will thank me.

If you want to talk about those things, I think we are all willing to listen and support you here.


I... I never realized how much this hurt. It's like, it's like I feel it in both my loins, and my heart. It's so dark, so confusing. My parents - those who raised me from birth, those who told me everyday that they loved me, cared for me, and would always protect me - why? Why would they do this? Didn't they know what they were doing?!

They hurt me. They cut me so deep. They tried to take my manhood into their own hands without even considering how it would affect me. Ooooh. OOOH! The anger! They betrayed me for no reason! What sick twisted farks!

Hold me! Someone, hold me! Oh WeenerGord, WeenerGord, what have you done!? Why would you show this to me and then leave me here. I need you now more than ever. Hold me and be the foreskin I was never allowed to have. Take me in your hand and grip it. Hold it tight, but not to tight. Yank me gently and let me know that I'm still a man. Remind me what it is to feel good. Help me release, this.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:54:24 PM  
hockeyfarker: I would say the guy who feels the need to use unnecessarily large font always loses the internet argument

he only went slight larger, he used small caps... it made it a bit easier to read I thought

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:55:40 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Oh ya, I forgot to say, Imma butta yo muffin.

Got a laugh from the girl when I said that, I was like "eh", and she goes oh I thought you said BLOODY your muffin :)


And then you said, "That's a pretty advanced joke for a seven year old..." :D

 
Aidan [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:55:49 PM  
flyurchin: Hold me and be the foreskin I was never allowed to have. Take me in your hand and grip it. Hold it tight, but not to tight. Yank me gently and let me know that I'm still a man. Remind me what it is to feel good. Help me release, this.

*munches popcorn* Go on...

 
Egalitarian [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:56:04 PM  
flyurchin
Been a bit different. I've talked a lot about how much I love my cock. So has Slartibartfaster. And we're like the odd couple, since I'm cut and he isn't. It's been superb.

Oh well carry on then.

\Egal = appreciator of male anatomy

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:56:12 PM  
flyurchin: They hurt me. They cut me so deep

they cut the end off your PENIS dude

you could have been a whole 1/8 inch longer (if measured base to tip)

I say... get a crossbow

(any responsibility for what you do to your parents is not mine, I was just joking)

 
beelzebubba76 2009-07-17 03:57:26 PM  
You perverts sicken me! All this talk of "It, that shall not be mentioned" ...

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 03:57:59 PM  
Egalitarian: Egal = appreciator of male anatomy

sorry about the loss of your pussy (read the profile)

 
Fooshards 2009-07-17 03:58:51 PM  
www.whatknows.com
/how you doin

 
ItsMyOpinion 2009-07-17 04:02:30 PM  
I'm circ'ed and love it. I get a lot of compliments on the look and most girls I know like them cut a lot more than uncut. Both my sisters are nurses and had their boys circ'ed.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 04:03:36 PM  
Flyurchin, sorry, you are not my type. Please be aware of Transference "Transference is a phenomenon in psychoanalysis characterized by unconscious redirection of feelings for one person to another. One definition of transference is "the inappropriate repetition in the present of a relationship that was important in a person's childhood."[1] Another definition is "the redirection of feelings and desires and especially of those unconsciously retained from childhood toward a new object."[2] Still another definition is "a reproduction of emotions relating to repressed experiences, esp[ecially] of childhood, and the substitution of another person ... for the original object of the repressed impulses."[3] Transference was first described by Sigmund Freud, who acknowledged its importance for psychoanalysis for better understanding of the patient's feelings."

Slartibartfaster, yes, thank you, the slightly larger text was intended to make the posts easier to read.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:04:25 PM  
ItsMyOpinion: I'm circ'ed and love it

and you base this on the experience you had being uncut ?

// show me a male that does not love his dick, and Ill send him to websites I dont like browsing (thats my story and Im sticking to it)

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:05:36 PM  
Slartibartfaster: Egalitarian: Egal = appreciator of male anatomy

sorry about the loss of your pussy (read the profile)


Funny, but sad.

Also, I also enjoyed the 13th warrior - can't help it.

Aidan: *munches popcorn* Go on...

It's the rare kind of orgasm that followed. One man, out of compassion, stroking the firm cock of another, watching him with great sympathy and loving pity; while the other, with a hurting so great in his soul, finally climaxes. And with it come the great many tears, not only from his throbing member, but pouring from his eyes. Anger, confusion, sadness, no longer repressed and blocked, flowing freely from his body, a body overcome with a unique ecstacy...

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:07:09 PM  
hockeyfarker: THEY HAVE SCIENTIFIC STUDIES ON SMEGMA. THAT IS FUNNY

washed it out lately ?

or is science bad ?

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:07:40 PM  
WeenerGord: Flyurchin, sorry, you are not my type. Please be aware of Transference "Transference is a phenomenon in psychoanalysis characterized by unconscious redirection of feelings for one person to another. One definition of transference is "the inappropriate repetition in the present of a relationship that was important in a person's childhood."[1] Another definition is "the redirection of feelings and desires and especially of those unconsciously retained from childhood toward a new object."[2] Still another definition is "a reproduction of emotions relating to repressed experiences, esp[ecially] of childhood, and the substitution of another person ... for the original object of the repressed impulses."[3] Transference was first described by Sigmund Freud, who acknowledged its importance for psychoanalysis for better understanding of the patient's feelings."

Psychoanalysis was actually my field of study (for realz, yay BC)! But thanks for the reminder. Check is in the mail.

Unless this session was pro bono!

/laughter
//applause
///fin

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:08:19 PM  
flyurchin: It's the rare kind of orgasm that followed. One man, out of compassion, stroking the firm cock of another, watching him with great sympathy and loving pity; while the other, with a hurting so great in his soul, finally climaxes. And with it come the great many tears, not only from his throbing member, but pouring from his eyes. Anger, confusion, sadness, no longer repressed and blocked, flowing freely from his body, a body overcome with a unique ecstacy...

that sounds gay

//nttiawwt

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:09:25 PM  
flyurchin: for realz, yay BC

mine was Computer Science, Religious history, and Macroeconomics (3 separate Bachellors)
YA BC !! (Stanley park is a great place to work on your papers)

 
ItsMyOpinion 2009-07-17 04:09:52 PM  
Slartibartfaster:and you base this on the experience you had being uncut ?

No I base this on the fact that neither side has any right to push there view on others. It's a stupid argument. Both sides think that their penis cut / uncut is better and both have the odd exceptions. Very few males (and I mean very few males) who have had their penis circ'ed while babies regret or hate their parents for it.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 04:10:14 PM  
flyurchin: Slartibartfaster: Egalitarian: Egal = appreciator of male anatomy

sorry about the loss of your pussy (read the profile)

Funny, but sad.

Also, I also enjoyed the 13th warrior - can't help it.

Aidan: *munches popcorn* Go on...

It's the rare kind of orgasm that followed. One man, out of compassion, stroking the firm cock of another, watching him with great sympathy and loving pity; while the other, with a hurting so great in his soul, finally climaxes. And with it come the great many tears, not only from his throbing member, but pouring from his eyes. Anger, confusion, sadness, no longer repressed and blocked, flowing freely from his body, a body overcome with a unique ecstacy...


i12.photobucket.com
NTTAWWT.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:11:44 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: It's the rare kind of orgasm that followed. One man, out of compassion, stroking the firm cock of another, watching him with great sympathy and loving pity; while the other, with a hurting so great in his soul, finally climaxes. And with it come the great many tears, not only from his throbing member, but pouring from his eyes. Anger, confusion, sadness, no longer repressed and blocked, flowing freely from his body, a body overcome with a unique ecstacy...

that sounds gay

//nttiawwt


It's healing. Healing! Unless health is the new gay, in which case I'm totally a fag.

Anyone else hurting? Like a paladin - I can solve your problems with a simple laying of hands.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:13:36 PM  
WeenerGord: Mr. Eric

NTTAWWT.


Remember before when I said you didn't raise my blood pressure? Well, my heart's beating like you wouldn't believe because of you now.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:15:31 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: for realz, yay BC

mine was Computer Science, Religious history, and Macroeconomics (3 separate Bachellors)
YA BC !! (Stanley park is a great place to work on your papers)


I've never been there, but I hear many parts of Canada resemble a Jesuit university campus. Here's to us!

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:17:31 PM  
ItsMyOpinion: No I base this on the fact that neither side has any right to push there view on others

I AGREE

Now I would like you to consider not pushing it on others
like... kids
babies
undefended penises

I am pro choice, anti abortion, anti circumcision, and anti lots of stuff (but still pro choice)
You can do what you want to your dick. People who do it to their kids are imposing their choice and prescribing unnecessary surgery to their kids.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:18:31 PM  
flyurchin: I can solve your problems with a simple laying of hands

did I mention that sounds gay ?

again, not that there is anything wrong with that.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 04:18:35 PM  
flyurchin: WeenerGord: Mr. Eric, NTTAWWT.

Remember before when I said you didn't raise my blood pressure? Well, my heart's beating like you wouldn't believe because of you now.



Accept your man love for Eric Estrada. Meanwhile, let's return to the discussion of circumcision, eh? Or is your attempt at misdirection meant to avoid facing it?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:22:01 PM  
WeenerGord: Accept your man love for Eric Estrada

hehehe Mr Estrada is quite funny

great guy, I see him at a few trade shows I go to (always very friendly, humble, and creepily like Chips)

"Hi Im Eric Estrada"

"yea dude, I grew up in the 70s, I know who you are... and how the hell do you look exactly like you look like back then man ?..... no sorry I dont want a timeshare in Alabama, but dude, skincare tips ? wtf ?"

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:22:51 PM  
WeenerGord: flyurchin: WeenerGord: Mr. Eric, NTTAWWT.

Remember before when I said you didn't raise my blood pressure? Well, my heart's beating like you wouldn't believe because of you now.


Accept your man love for Eric Estrada. Meanwhile, let's return to the discussion of circumcision, eh? Or is your attempt at misdirection meant to avoid facing it?


Thanks for keeping me on track.

Have I mentioned how much I hate my cock and how now that I know how evil circumcision is, I think this thing is ugly and shameful.

Someone, quick, I need something that looks like a foreskin that I can use to hide my shame.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:23:26 PM  
flyurchin: Canada resemble a Jesuit university campus

If you wanna talk UBC.... its only jesuit if jesuits were chinese

Had a chinese girlfriend there, my father (an asian conflict asshole baby killer, not that Im bitter) was not impressed and my racially impure choices.

 
Debby7813 2009-07-17 04:25:15 PM  
I'd also like to know (via scientific survey) how women who have been with both circ'ed and uncirc'ed men feel about them. (Women who have only been with one type of man seem to irrationally fear the other type) Also if there is a striking difference in sexual pleasure derived from the types of penii, or alternately if there are differences in sexual adventurism in the man (from her perspective)

Personal experience; 11 cut, one uncut. The uncut was my longest relationship; 18 years. I realize why I prefer cut; uncut (at least the one) is TOO sensitive, no staying power. Also, even though this was a VERY clean man, showering at least once a day, only a few hours after a shower the, shall we say, "ickiness" started to build up again. I don't really care about how it looks, it's more about function and the "ick" factor. On the plus side, the extra skin WAS sort of fun to play with.

I don't have any sons, and won't be having any more children. If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable.

Just my two cents' worth.

Female, BTW.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:25:25 PM  
flyurchin: Someone, quick, I need something that looks like a foreskin that I can use to hide my shame

went looking for a foreskin hat
reduced to dick head

note to self: next time turn on filtering first

www.dymaxionweb.com

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:27:31 PM  
Debby7813: If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable

I hear breast implants are easier earlier on too.

How are your girls going with their imposed unnecessary cosmetic surgery for future sexual attraction ? you did that right ?

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 04:37:00 PM  
Slartibartfaster: Debby7813: If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable

I hear breast implants are easier earlier on too.

How are your girls going with their imposed unnecessary cosmetic surgery for future sexual attraction ? you did that right ?



Yes. You should also have insisted on surgical hymen removal at 8 days, to reduce trauma at first intercourse, and surgical removal of the clitoral hood, to cure frigidity, and to achieve equality with circumcised males. Surgical removal of labial lips is also recommended, because, you know, even right after a shower, it starts to get cheesy down there.

The important thing is to sexually mutilate babies. There is really no excuse not to. Everyone is doing it. It's really stupid to argue against it, because nobody remembers and nobody cares.

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:37:45 PM  
Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Someone, quick, I need something that looks like a foreskin that I can use to hide my shame

went looking for a foreskin hat
reduced to dick head

note to self: next time turn on filtering first


Nice.

Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Canada resemble a Jesuit university campus

If you wanna talk UBC.... its only jesuit if jesuits were chinese

Had a chinese girlfriend there, my father (an asian conflict asshole baby killer, not that Im bitter) was not impressed and my racially impure choices.


Not nice.

 
Garble 2009-07-17 04:38:32 PM  
Slartibartfaster
// show me a male that does not publicly claim to love his dick, and Ill send him to websites I dont like browsing (thats my story and Im sticking to it)

FTFY
/someone's gotta be sending money to all these "male enhancement" emails

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 04:40:25 PM  
Debby7813: I'd also like to know (via scientific survey) how women who have been with both circ'ed and uncirc'ed men feel about them. (Women who have only been with one type of man seem to irrationally fear the other type) Also if there is a striking difference in sexual pleasure derived from the types of penii, or alternately if there are differences in sexual adventurism in the man (from her perspective)

Personal experience; 11 cut, one uncut. The uncut was my longest relationship; 18 years. I realize why I prefer cut; uncut (at least the one) is TOO sensitive, no staying power. Also, even though this was a VERY clean man, showering at least once a day, only a few hours after a shower the, shall we say, "ickiness" started to build up again. I don't really care about how it looks, it's more about function and the "ick" factor. On the plus side, the extra skin WAS sort of fun to play with.

I don't have any sons, and won't be having any more children. If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable.

Just my two cents' worth.

Female, BTW.


Yeah I think being de-sensitized (by being circed) is a good thing. I prob wouldn't suggest it for females though, as they can't be sensitive enough down there (from my experience). And getting the clit hood removed, would desensitize it further.

I still think if you were uncut you could overcome it easily though, and still think it's mainly an aesthetic issue, but I'd still circ my kid.

Slarti...there's a difference between snipping off a piece of skin (that serves no purpose) and giving someone implants at birth...

Nobody in their right mind would get circ'ed as an adult, that doesn't mean that people (like me) don't like being circ'ed...I'm glad my parents did it for me, because there's no way in hell I'd do it as an adult (and I'd wish I was...but ultimately I wouldn't care).

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 04:42:00 PM  
WeenerGord: Slartibartfaster: Debby7813: If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable

I hear breast implants are easier earlier on too.

How are your girls going with their imposed unnecessary cosmetic surgery for future sexual attraction ? you did that right ?


Yes. You should also have insisted on surgical hymen removal at 8 days, to reduce trauma at first intercourse, and surgical removal of the clitoral hood, to cure frigidity, and to achieve equality with circumcised males. Surgical removal of labial lips is also recommended, because, you know, even right after a shower, it starts to get cheesy down there.

The important thing is to sexually mutilate babies. There is really no excuse not to. Everyone is doing it. It's really stupid to argue against it, because nobody remembers and nobody cares.


Are you angry men wouldn't sleep with you because of your uncut penis? You sound very angry, while 99% of the other people here recognize it doesn't really matter, if you have a penis, you're probably gonna like it.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:42:38 PM  
Garble: /someone's gotta be sending money to all these "male enhancement" emails

those are the ones that dont like it

 
flyurchin 2009-07-17 04:44:59 PM  
Ladies and gentlemen, I've enjoyed talking with you about my penis, just as much as I've enjoyed hearing about yours or what you think about penises.

Gotta run!

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:44:59 PM  
CrazyCracka420: Slarti...there's a difference between snipping off a piece of skin (that serves no purpose)

mine actually serves a purpose

... I quite like it

its only removed for cosmetic reasons now days (unless you live in a desert and cannot wash)

so if it is cosmetic.... implants are just as "does not cause any harm just makes them feel better"

My point (although framed badly perhaps I can do this better this time) is: Cosmetic surgery to make your child look sexually attractive later is a bit ... ya know... wrong.

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 04:47:56 PM  
Implants do cause harm, and you couldn't put in implants for a child because their body still grows around the boobs...

And circumcision is only cosmetic...and I can totally see your points about cosmetic surgery for children, I guess I'm just okay with circumcision because I had it done. I know that's not a good justification, and is having double standards, but we can't be rational all the time.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:48:51 PM  
flyurchin: Not nice.

note sure what you found not nice

But NZ was in asia to protect the brunei oil fields (fighting was in Borneo, my father was SAS NZ) I grew up in Singapore.

yea it wasnt nice

note to others: if you are going to be a father, dont let your government put you on a 9 year effidrine prescription to make you a better soldier, it wont help your family. (didnt help his first, and from what I have heard his second generation is not much happier with him). Fortunately I had a great adopted dad after that (Mom remarried when she stopped him beating her)

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:53:21 PM  
CrazyCracka420: if you have a penis, you're probably gonna like it

yeah

now can we as a culture quit chopping bits off it ?

That would be super... mmm kay ?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 04:54:29 PM  
CrazyCracka420: but we can't be rational all the time

Agreed

but just before prescribing unnecessary cosmetic surgery to our children.... that MIGHT be one of those times where we kinda might wanna be right ?

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 04:56:48 PM  
CrazyCracka420: WeenerGord: Slartibartfaster: Debby7813: If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable
I hear breast implants are easier earlier on too.
How are your girls going with their imposed unnecessary cosmetic surgery for future sexual attraction ? you did that right ?

Yes. You should also have insisted on surgical hymen removal at 8 days, to reduce trauma at first intercourse, and surgical removal of the clitoral hood, to cure frigidity, and to achieve equality with circumcised males. Surgical removal of labial lips is also recommended, because, you know, even right after a shower, it starts to get cheesy down there.
The important thing is to sexually mutilate babies. There is really no excuse not to. Everyone is doing it. It's really stupid to argue against it, because nobody remembers and nobody cares.

Are you angry men wouldn't sleep with you because of your uncut penis? You sound very angry, while 99% of the other people here recognize it doesn't really matter, if you have a penis, you're probably gonna like it.



Thanks for the offer, but you are not my type either. You sound ugly.

Remember, you didn't have to be circumcised, and most of the world is not. Based on a whim of your parents, you were mutilated. It was unnecessary, and you will never get it back. Just admit it's wrong to mutilate babies. You can still accept yourself as you are. Well, you kind of have to accept it, don't you?

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 05:01:53 PM  
WeenerGord: and most of the world is not

and most of the world is not

I thought the big font worked, thought I might add to it

 
CrazyCracka420 2009-07-17 05:06:29 PM  
WeenerGord: CrazyCracka420: WeenerGord: Slartibartfaster: Debby7813: If I HAD had sons, I most likely would have opted for circumcision, simply because doing it later in life would be so uncomfortable
I hear breast implants are easier earlier on too.
How are your girls going with their imposed unnecessary cosmetic surgery for future sexual attraction ? you did that right ?

Yes. You should also have insisted on surgical hymen removal at 8 days, to reduce trauma at first intercourse, and surgical removal of the clitoral hood, to cure frigidity, and to achieve equality with circumcised males. Surgical removal of labial lips is also recommended, because, you know, even right after a shower, it starts to get cheesy down there.
The important thing is to sexually mutilate babies. There is really no excuse not to. Everyone is doing it. It's really stupid to argue against it, because nobody remembers and nobody cares.

Are you angry men wouldn't sleep with you because of your uncut penis? You sound very angry, while 99% of the other people here recognize it doesn't really matter, if you have a penis, you're probably gonna like it.


Thanks for the offer, but you are not my type either. You sound ugly.

Remember, you didn't have to be circumcised, and most of the world is not. Based on a whim of your parents, you were mutilated. It was unnecessary, and you will never get it back. Just admit it's wrong to mutilate babies. You can still accept yourself as you are. Well, you kind of have to accept it, don't you?


I'm pretty cute, pic in profile. But I'm totally straight. If you want to dress up in drag and suck my dick I'm sure I wouldn't mind.

But honestly, you sound like you're being more rational in your 2nd paragraph, so I'll bite. I didn't have to be circ'ed, it is unnecessary, but it wasn't on a whim.

Of course I accept myself for who I am, and I try to be naked as much as possible.

I realize most of the world isn't circ'ed, and most women in the US don't give a sh*t if you are or aren't (just as long as you're pounding away like Casey Jones on the railroad tracks). All that rational thought aside, I still like that I'm circ'ed, and I don't see anything wrong with the practice :p It's just a little flap of skin, and becomes normal when you've had it your whole life.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 05:12:14 PM  
images.askmen.com

 
theoriginalslash 2009-07-17 05:12:52 PM  
I know we're almost to 600 comments, so I'm sure others have said something similar, but it bears repeating... FTFA: "Circumcising men who already have HIV does not protect their female partners from the virus, a study in Uganda has found."

Who's the head of the Uganda health service? A witch doctor? What Stone Age denizen thought that cutting off part of the peen keeps the AIDS from leaking out of the peen, or do they think it works like some sort of magic spell? This "study" seems about as necessary as a study that holds people underwater for 10 minutes in order to determine whether or not people can breathe underwater. If this is an example of how public health is administered in African countries, the appalling rates of HIV infection make a lot more sense.

I'm in the "circumcision is not necessary, so generally I'm opposed" camp. If you're circumcised, OK, if you're not, that's OK too.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 05:13:58 PM  
CrazyCracka420, you are ugly. You have an ugly personality. Your dick is mutilated and also ugly. You will never know what you are missing. I pity you too.

 
griffer [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 05:20:13 PM  
WeenerGord: CrazyCracka420, you are ugly. You have an ugly personality. Your dick is mutilated and also ugly. You will never know what you are missing. I pity you too.

Ouch! Poor mangled cracka.

 
beelzebubba76 2009-07-17 05:21:06 PM  
The women who love the man jam will do so whether it's cut or not, methinks.

 
MK-Ultra71 2009-07-17 05:33:48 PM  
I'm waiting for the links to North American hospitals that have banned the practice. Doctors don't seem to have a problem with the practice. I for one do not mourn the loss of my foreskin. I have more pressing matters in my life. YMMV.

 
ilikechocolatemilk 2009-07-17 06:28:21 PM  
All this fuss over a little skin is getting way too gay for me.
Bottom line: it gets in the way. I like 'em cut.
/you sound like my ex...

 
sweddjen [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 06:51:46 PM  
No wieners tag? What a waste of an opportunity.

i215.photobucket.com

 
Biness 2009-07-17 07:01:46 PM  
i38.photobucket.com

 
jigger 2009-07-17 08:00:43 PM  
crm114: wyrlss: Surgery? Just do stretches. It'll take a while, but you can stretch it back out. It's kind of cool.

It's still not the same. There are glands and such in the foreskin that are unrecoverable after circumcision.

 
jigger 2009-07-17 08:02:12 PM  
J. Frank Parnell:
We could easily feed the entire planet now. The main reason it's not done is because it would drive market prices down and a starving country is easy to control.


Also, you know what you get when you feed starving people?

More people.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:02:24 PM  
CrazyCracka420: I'm pretty cute, pic in profile. But I'm totally straight. If you want to dress up in drag and suck my dick I'm sure I wouldn't mind.

can you spell C-O-N-T-R-A-D-I-C-T-I-I-O-N boys and girls ? I knew you could (I can just barely)

// no Im not gonna dress in drag, I havnt shaved lately

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:03:15 PM  
jigger: There are glands and such in the foreskin that are unrecoverable after circumcision

[citation needed] and if you have one, Id love to use it in future

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:04:26 PM  
jigger: More people

more people who dont want to kill you

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:06:41 PM  
ilikechocolatemilk: All this fuss over a little skin is getting way too gay for me.
Bottom line: it gets in the way. I like 'em cut


so... you like em cut... and thats not too gay ?

checks profile

oh yer gay... ok carry on then :D hehe

// straight guys like to discuss dick too, particularly when comparing size, or discussing chopping parts of it off (we like OUR dicks too)

 
jigger 2009-07-17 08:15:35 PM  
Slartibartfaster: jigger: There are glands and such in the foreskin that are unrecoverable after circumcision

[citation needed] and if you have one, Id love to use it in future


Link

The outside of the foreskin is like the skin on the shaft of the penis, but the inner foreskin is a mucous membrane like the inside of the eyelid or the mouth.

I don't think when you un-circ the mucous membranes come back. Not sure.

At the end of foreskin, there is a band of tissue called the ridged band, which, according to one study, is rich in nerve endings called Meissner's corpuscles.[2] According to a study by Sorrells et al., the five most sensitive areas of the penis are on the foreskin.

You cannot get back your ridged band or the frenulum (if that got cut too).

 
jigger 2009-07-17 08:16:44 PM  
Slartibartfaster: jigger: More people

more people who dont want to kill you


I guess if they're starving, they won't have much energy to kill anyone.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:48:47 PM  
jigger: I guess if they're starving, they won't have much energy to kill anyone

most people have the ability to get just enough food to have the energy to kill the person who has more food.

Starving countries are farking dangerous (although that might be a good place to test whether circumcision can stop infecting females.... oh wait, they did that.... damn is humanity really that freaking sick ? yea)

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:49:50 PM  
jigger: You cannot get back your ridged band or the frenulum

glad Ive got my frenulum

now I have to go look up what a frenulum is

// Thanks for the link

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 08:51:45 PM  
quote from the link kindly supplied by jigger:

It is also described as the prepuce, a technically broader term that also includes the clitoral hood in women, to which the foreskin is embryonically homologous.

.... so why is female circumcision considered bad, but we can lop off the end of a penis and its considered "better for the changing rooms"

 
tempathy 2009-07-17 08:57:46 PM  
www.dropline.net

 
cyberspacedout 2009-07-17 10:14:43 PM  
Slartibartfaster: .... so why is female circumcision considered bad, but we can lop off the end of a penis and its considered "better for the changing rooms"

It's because doctors in this country can't make money from cutting girls. Also that whole "it's illegal" thing.

 
ciocia [TotalFark] 2009-07-17 10:19:49 PM  
Slartibartfaster: quote from the link kindly supplied by jigger:

It is also described as the prepuce, a technically broader term that also includes the clitoral hood in women, to which the foreskin is embryonically homologous.

.... so why is female circumcision considered bad, but we can lop off the end of a penis and its considered "better for the changing rooms"


Because "female circumcision" may involve only the removal of the clitoral hood, but frequently involves a lot more, such as removal of the entire clitoris and part of the labia minor, or infibulation (removing all external genitalia and sewing the vagina nearly shut). If they were doing that to boys, it would have been outlawed a long time ago.

 
Garble 2009-07-17 10:46:17 PM  
CrazyCracka420
there's a difference between snipping off a piece of skin (that serves no purpose) and giving someone implants at birth...

The foreskin does serve a purpose. Several actually. It protects the head of the penis from drying out (the head of an intact penis is as smooth as the inside of someone's lips). During sex it reduces friction while providing more surface area. And it has many many nerve endings identical to the ones most men would never want removed from their current dicks.

I know you're happy with your cock as-is. Most deaf people don't miss music either.

But just because you're happy without a foreskin doesn't mean the foreskin is useless or that you'd be any less happy if did have one.

Nobody in their right mind would get circ'ed as an adult, that doesn't mean that people (like me) don't like being circ'ed...I'm glad my parents did it for me, because there's no way in hell I'd do it as an adult (and I'd wish I was...but ultimately I wouldn't care).

You have no way of knowing that. You like being cut because it's what you're used to. There's no reason to think that if you weren't, you'd be any less happy with how it looked, how it felt or how it worked.

Most of the world is uncut. If your assumptions are true, there should be a ton of men out there who wish they were cut but are too scared to get it done. There isn't any evidence of that being the case.

 
ephed 2009-07-17 11:34:20 PM  
It's like saying that the goggles get int he way of a skier, or the steering wheel is in the way of a cab driver.

foreskin goggles?

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-17 11:40:45 PM  
Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: I'm pretty cute, pic in profile. But I'm totally straight. If you want to dress up in drag and suck my dick I'm sure I wouldn't mind.

can you spell C-O-N-T-R-A-D-I-C-T-I-I-O-N boys and girls ? I knew you could



Does anyone else find it odd that the two loudest defenders of circumcision began eagerly offering gay sex as soon as they lost the argument? What is that all about, besides changing the subject? A survival tactic?

Maybe circumcision began as a veiled threat from the father. A sort of "I brought you into this world, and I can take you out. Never forget it. Here's a physical reminder you will see several times a day, every time you pee or feel good, the proof that The Father can cut you where you live. Obey the Father or He might cut off the rest of it." No wonder cut guys have castration anxiety.

Anyone also notice that every time these circ threads occur, some cut guys appear to defend their own dicks. They don't realize that it is not about them. Their dick is already ruined. It's about protecting the ones to come from preventable ruination.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-18 12:07:25 AM  
WeenerGord: began eagerly offering gay sex as soon as they lost the argument

There was an argument ?!?
and I lost ?!?
and I offered WHAT ?

can you pass the bong dude, I wanna join your paradigm.

 
Slartibartfaster [TotalFark] 2009-07-18 12:08:49 AM  
WeenerGord: defenders of circumcision

oh wait hehehe
not me

whew

I hate it when I wake up and find out I offered something I dont wanna give later.

whew

 
ubertwit 2009-07-18 12:10:12 AM  
re: // straight guys like to discuss dick too, particularly when comparing size, or discussing chopping parts of it off (we like OUR dicks too)

I've never thought about "discussing chopping parts of it off ". Sounds like you caught the ghey.

 
Balchinian 2009-07-18 12:22:27 AM  
Daaaayyuuummmm!

I liked the headline, but didn't think this would turn into a huge thread at all. Once again, Fark throws me a curveball and I swing and miss. Oh well.

/Subby.
//Cut with uncut son.
///I couldn't think of a good enough reason to do it to him.

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-18 12:24:34 AM  
Slartibartfaster: WeenerGord: defenders of circumcision
oh wait hehehe, not me. whew. I hate it when I wake up and find out I offered something I dont wanna give later.


Not you. CrazyCracka and Flurchin. I knew I should have removed your name from the reply quotes because somebody might misread it, but wanted to give you credit for spotting Cracka's contradicktion.

 
oogmar 2009-07-18 08:26:25 AM  
Dear cut men: Your dick looks pretty! Congrats! It's easy to keep clean and is what most North American pornography portrays as the ideal. Straight-forward, but robbed of nerves.

Dear uncut men: Your dick isn't that great to look at, but man does it feel better inside of a vagina! Most North American pornos make you an outsider, but your nerve endings are in much better repair and you orgasm more deeply than your cut brothers. Also, things are a bit tougher to clean, but all in all both ends of your sexual deeds are more pleasurable.

The end!

 
r1chard3 2009-07-18 08:45:53 AM  
sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.


Is it OK to just think that uncircumcised penises are goofy looking?

 
Mayhem of the Black Underclass 2009-07-18 09:25:15 AM  
oogmar: Dear cut men: Your dick looks pretty! Congrats! It's easy to keep clean and is what most North American pornography portrays as the ideal. Straight-forward, but robbed of nerves.

Dear uncut men: Your dick isn't that great to look at, but man does it feel better inside of a vagina! Most North American pornos make you an outsider, but your nerve endings are in much better repair and you orgasm more deeply than your cut brothers. Also, things are a bit tougher to clean, but all in all both ends of your sexual deeds are more pleasurable.

The end!


I'm not sure I understand which perspective you are offering. Are you a woman who claims to enjoy sex with uncut men? How many of each type of partner have you had. If you are a woman, how can you report on the "depth" of orgasms of any man.
Are you an uncut man who claims to be having "deeper" orgasms? How can you compare if you haven't been cut.
Are you a cut man who claims that uncut men are having "deeper" orgasms? How can you compare if you've never had sex with your foreskin intact.

 
Joce678 2009-07-18 10:06:24 AM  
MK-Ultra71: I'm waiting for the links to North American hospitals that have banned the practice. Doctors don't seem to have a problem with the practice.

Why would they? They get paid for every one they do!


I for one do not mourn the loss of my foreskin.

so? Deaf people don't miss music, blind people don't miss colors...


I have more pressing matters in my life. YMMV.

Just not quite pressing enough to avoid posting here. Methinks there may be a seed of a doubt in there somewhere.

 
oogmar 2009-07-18 05:09:11 PM  
Mayhem of the Black Underclass: oogmar: Dear cut men: Your dick looks pretty! Congrats! It's easy to keep clean and is what most North American pornography portrays as the ideal. Straight-forward, but robbed of nerves.

Dear uncut men: Your dick isn't that great to look at, but man does it feel better inside of a vagina! Most North American pornos make you an outsider, but your nerve endings are in much better repair and you orgasm more deeply than your cut brothers. Also, things are a bit tougher to clean, but all in all both ends of your sexual deeds are more pleasurable.

The end!

I'm not sure I understand which perspective you are offering. Are you a woman who claims to enjoy sex with uncut men? How many of each type of partner have you had. If you are a woman, how can you report on the "depth" of orgasms of any man.
Are you an uncut man who claims to be having "deeper" orgasms? How can you compare if you haven't been cut.
Are you a cut man who claims that uncut men are having "deeper" orgasms? How can you compare if you've never had sex with your foreskin intact.



I am a woman who enjoys sex period. I've spent fairly equal time with both types in long-term relationships, the long term numbers being three cut men and two uncut men, so my experience has included slightly more cut men than uncut. This doesn't include anybody I haven't had at least a year of sexual contact with, and not the people I had happy, brief sexual relationships with, though they were pretty educational as well. I also have spent a period of time studying sexual health. I don't claim to be an expert, but the experts I've had in my classes (all range of men and women) are in agreement that the extra nerve endings of uncut males do actually lead to the orgasm going "deeper" into the body, making it closer to a full-body reaction than something that happens between the nipples and the knees.

Having taken both cut and uncut men to orgasm on a large number of occasions, and not being an unskilled lover, it's been my observation that uncut men have longer orgasms, have a much wider range of physiological reactions/spasms/contractions than cut men, and are more likely to be multi-orgasmic.

Granted, my control group hasn't been gigantic, but combined with that and the doctorates I've had discussions with about this, I can say pretty confidently that the uncut men have a better go of it sexually.

Though, visually, the cut member is "cleaner" to look at, which in some cases is very pleasing to the eye, and much easier to keep clean. Some uncut men don't always do the best at keeping their guys clean (which is not a pleasant thing to run into), but then, some girls don't do very well with their vaginas, either.

Does that answer your questions?

 
Two Dogs Farking [TotalFark] 2009-07-18 05:37:45 PM  
oogmar: Does that answer your questions?

You sound slutty. And attention-whorey.

 
oogmar 2009-07-18 06:21:03 PM  
Two Dogs Farking: oogmar: Does that answer your questions?

You sound slutty. And attention-whorey.


I answered his question/s. And yeah, the summation of ones entire sex life, spanning over years and years, packed into a few brief sentences does kind of have a magnifying effect on numbers and whatnot. But then, I'm engaged to a wonderful man, so the numbers aren't getting any bigger from here on out.

So... you sound troll-y?

 
ciocia [TotalFark] 2009-07-18 07:27:36 PM  
oogmar: Two Dogs Farking: oogmar: Does that answer your questions?

You sound slutty. And attention-whorey.

I answered his question/s. And yeah, the summation of ones entire sex life, spanning over years and years, packed into a few brief sentences does kind of have a magnifying effect on numbers and whatnot. But then, I'm engaged to a wonderful man, so the numbers aren't getting any bigger from here on out.

So... you sound troll-y envious?


FIFY. An understandable mistake.

 
natas6.0 2009-07-18 09:09:20 PM  
I've heard Dr Drew discuss uncut fellers who injure the foreskin
which he claims makes it tighter.
The explanations goes to the point where the foreskin won't allow the head to come out.
Let alone the stuff you get under it.

Does this have any relevance to the subject?
Or has this thread degraded to 'chicks' telling us that they're great lovers, and guys calling each other ghey?

Except that watching him with great sympathy and loving pity bit,
THAT is exceptionally queer

 
WeenerGord 2009-07-19 01:06:13 AM  
natas6.0: I've heard Dr Drew discuss uncut fellers who injure the foreskin which he claims makes it tighter. The explanations goes to the point where the foreskin won't allow the head to come out.

There is a rare condition called phimosis. It is a little known fact that the foreskin is like steel. It's the only part of the skin that CANNOT be stretched, for example by just by tugging on it a few times a day, maybe with warm water and soap, or lotion. DR. Phil should know about that as he is a HUGE dickhead. Oh wait, you said Dr. Drew. But Dr. Phil is still a HUGE dickhead. Also Dr. Drew is a Jew, and is apparently angry at teh foreskin. He may not know much about it as he had to ask Dane Cook for advice about it.


Except that watching him with great sympathy and loving pity bit, THAT is exceptionally queer

No kidding, that homo was gaggin for it, NTTAWWT.


Oogmar: you go girl. Rock on with your bad self.

 
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