This headline is a thing of beauty. +1

*Golf clap*

I think this is just the tip of the issue.

No big thing.

WOW you mean using condoms is more important than whether your foreskin is cut off?! Who's have thought?

everyone that wasn't retarded

*Who'd

I still need sleep.

That circumcision/AIDS study is also a thing of resplendent stupidity.

Any correlation between circumcision and a lower incidence of AIDS is because of the correlation between circumcision and doctors visits, better education, etc.

TFA: Circumcising men who already have HIV does not protect their female partners from the virus, a study in Uganda has found.

I could have told you this.

Dear Science Diary,

Apparently my "what better way to stem the tide of sexually transmitted diseases than introducing an open wound to the peen" theory has been shot out of the water.

I am aghast but resolved to move forworward. Tomorrow, we go to Plan B, which will involve teaching the natives to integrate needle sharing and chainsaw juggling into their foreplay.

The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

The stupidest? I thought that was PC v. Apple.

//Anything that involves lopping off part of a mans junk, isn't insignificant.

Didja hear about the mohel who doesn't charge for the bris?

He only takes tips!

ba-dum

Ah, how I love the circumcision threads. People have such heated opinions and I love trying to figure out who is and isn't circumcised based on their opinions.

Being circumcised is awesome and I would recommend it to anyone. My little man don't need no hood.

Very funny headline subby!

sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

You're right -- I don't care about female circumcision and neither should you. Stupid uppity women wanting sex to be pleasurable.

NightOwl2255: sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

The stupidest? I thought that was PC v. Apple. VHS vs Beta.

ftfy

//Anything that involves lopping off part of a mans junk, isn't insignificant.

NightOwl2255: sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

The stupidest? I thought that was PC v. Apple.

//Anything that involves lopping off part of a mans junk, isn't insignificant.

I don't see the issue, I doubt I would care either way.

I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

U8D1EyedSnake: I love trying to figure out who is and isn't circumcised based on their opinions.

seriously? you spend time figuring out whether internet dudes are cut or not? Maybe you should consider a hobby or getting cable TV

sigdiamond2000

The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.


Literally - really? Not metaphorically? Allegorically? Philosophically? Morally? Not even as a simile or analogy?

Wow.

GoodyearPimp: Stupid uppity women wanting sex to be pleasurable.

Finally someone has expressed the feelings that I have been unable to articulate all this time.

Thank you

GoodyearPimp: sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

You're right -- I don't care about female circumcision and neither should you. Stupid uppity women wanting sex to be pleasurable.

And away we go!

Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

The option to go through the pain and awkwardness that they would have forgotten had they been circumcised as a baby?

/mushrooms vs. elephant trunks...I don't really care

Englebert Slaptyback: sigdiamond2000

The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.


Literally - really? Not metaphorically? Allegorically? Philosophically? Morally? Not even as a simile or analogy?

Wow.

Damn I love a good Thesaurus smack down!

hockeyfarker: U8D1EyedSnake: I love trying to figure out who is and isn't circumcised based on their opinions.

seriously? you spend time figuring out whether internet dudes are cut or not? Maybe you should consider a hobby or getting cable TV

You sound uncut.

The researchers suggest the higher transmission rate could have been due to couples resuming their sex lives before the circumcision would have properly healed.

I think I speak for all men when I curl into the fetal position and rock back and forth after reading that

sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

crm114: mushrooms vs. elephant trunks

You sound cut.

headline of the year

hockeyfarker: The researchers suggest the higher transmission rate could have been due to couples resuming their sex lives before the circumcision would have properly healed.

I think I speak for all men when I curl into the fetal position and rock back and forth after reading that

DNRTFA but thanks for making sure I'm included

/legs now crossed and locked tightly

crm114: Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

The option to go through the pain and awkwardness that they would have forgotten had they been circumcised as a baby?

/mushrooms vs. elephant trunks...I don't really care

Pain and awkwardness? Pain? Um.. what?!

Circumcision works because somewhere in the back of your brain there is a voice saying "be careful who touches your penis... remember last time..."

Crewmannumber6: That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

You sound uncut.

"Circumcision is known to protect men from acquiring HIV."

Someone needs to study up.

Liquid Ass Fart Spray:
Pain and awkwardness? Pain? Um.. what?!

I'm sure they anesthetize during, but I imagine the recovery period is unpleasant...

griffer: Crewmannumber6: That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

You sound uncut.

Ya think? Was born in Ireland but grew up in America where, apparently, they do things a little different

griffer: You sound uncut.

I am also uncensored and unrated

Crewmannumber6: sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

So some other dudes checked out your junk. If you are into that then that's a plus but if not then who cares?

crm114: Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

The option to go through the pain and awkwardness that they would have forgotten had they been circumcised as a baby?

/mushrooms vs. elephant trunks...I don't really care

That's why my boys both got their Prince Albert's before we took them home from the hospital.

crm114: Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

The option to go through the pain and awkwardness that they would have forgotten had they been circumcised as a baby?

/mushrooms vs. elephant trunks...I don't really care

That's why I had my childrens' ears removed at birth. If I had waited too long, it would be a traumatic experience, but it's okay if I do it before they're ambulatory.

NightOwl2255

Damn I love a good Thesaurus smack down!


For good or ill, the thesaurus remained undisturbed throughout the composition of that missive.

griffer: Crewmannumber6: That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

You sound uncut.

You sound unsure. All you have to do is drop...look, something shiny.

griffer: crm114: mushrooms vs. elephant trunks

You sound cut.

Well played, you win this round...

total castration protects 100% against HIV. Also population control.

sigdiamond2000: The circumcision debate is literally the stupidest debate in the history of the human race.

If you give a sh*t either way, you have mental problems. End of story.

Heh. I've got a British co-worker who loves to get on his high horse about this one. He says "it's genital mutilation and the child has no say in the matter. It should be illegal. Only people in the US and Israel get this done" blah blah blah.

I didn't argue much back. I just told him that my dick is pretty and his looks like it's used for frosting baked goods. The end.

What stupid women did they get to be a part of this study? They got 170 uninfected females!

"We want you to have unprotected sex with a HIV positive man. Some of the men in our study will be circumcised."

Someone thought that was a good idea? "It was found that a higher proportion of women were infected with HIV in the intervention group (18%) versus the control group (12%)."

There were 92 couples in the circumcision group and 67 in the control group were included in the final analysis. That means that 16 women in the group and 8 women in the control group were infected by participating in this study.

Circumcision doesn't prove any statistically significance advantage on anything. Yet, oddly enough, when discussing circumcision no one ever brings up the thousands that die, are permanently scarred, or end up with a severely mutilated penis.

crm114: The option to go through the pain and awkwardness that they would have forgotten had they been circumcised as a baby?

/mushrooms vs. elephant trunks...I don't really care

Right. If the kid won't remember it, it isn't traumatic. I think that you'll have a lot of support for this theory among the Catholic priesthood.

DipsomaniacDawg: sigdiamond2000: his looks like it's used for frosting baked goods. The end.

Well...it just got a whole lot easier to avoid baked goods...

Crewmannumber6: griffer: Crewmannumber6: That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

You sound uncut.

Ya think? Was born in Ireland but grew up in America where, apparently, they do things a little different

The Jews brainwashed us into thinking penile vanity was important. Wait..wha??

madblader: "Circumcision is known to protect men from acquiring HIV."

Someone needs to study up.

I can see why this might be the case. If the foreskin is left on, the skin underneath is softer and more susceptible to abrasion. Combine this with the fact that if you don't wash after sex the foreskin keeps the fluids in contact with the skin underneath it for a longer time.

So it may offer some protection, but not nearly as much as using a condom.

Control_this: That circumcision/AIDS study is also a thing of resplendent stupidity.

Any correlation between circumcision and a lower incidence of AIDS is because of the correlation between circumcision and doctors visits, better education, etc.

Citation needed.

Happy bris day to you
Happy bris day to you
Happy bris day dear Shlomo,
Happy bris day to you.

/Been saving that one.
//Don't forget to 'tip' the waitress.
///Heh heh heh

Keep blades away from the precious!

My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Bored Horde: I think this is just the tip of the tissue.

FTFY

Smarshmallow: Right. If the kid won't remember it, it isn't traumatic. I think that you'll have a lot of support for this theory among the Catholic priesthood.

How about cutting the entire penis off and watch the HIV rates plummet!!

/uncut

madblader: Circumcision doesn't prove any statistically significance advantage on anything. Yet, oddly enough, when discussing circumcision no one ever brings up the thousands that die, are permanently scarred, or end up with a severely mutilated penis.

Flawless execution of a classic Fark argument/bait. Let's see who bites....

Circumcision. I'm against genital mutilation and just because the Jewish and Muslim Guy in the Sky says to don't make it right.

/Nasty shiat
//Going to go get lawn chair, adult beverage, popcorn and watch the fun.
///Gentile so I should not have had my day old pener trimmed by a Jewish doctor.

hockeyfarker:seriously? you spend time figuring out whether internet dudes are cut or not? Maybe you should consider a hobby or getting cable TV

Yes, I really spend all my time thinking about whether or not random strangers are circumcised.

No, I just think that how people feel about circumcision is interesting and you can usually tell based on their opinion whether they are or not.

Case in point:

griffer:You sound uncut.

Thinks I sound uncircumcised based on my statement that you can sometimes tell about a person based on their opinion.

/farkette
//thankfully not circumcised
///that would be awful

Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Does she then make jokes about 'the worm'?

Farkwaddle: madblader: Circumcision doesn't prove any statistically significance advantage on anything. Yet, oddly enough, when discussing circumcision no one ever brings up the thousands that die, are permanently scarred, or end up with a severely mutilated penis.

Flawless execution of a classic Fark argument/bait. Let's see who bites....

almost did, was going to use vaccines as a strawman to his bait, but I couldn't find enough information so I gave up.

What we need on fark is a news story about circumcision, motorcycles, and Apple Computers. But does Steve Jobs ride a motorcycle?

That would be a legendary thread.

Linoleum_Blownapart: Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Does she then make jokes about 'the worm'?

No, but you just did. :•(

Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Gwendolyn:

I still need sleep.

Well you're never gonna get it! There's a guy who's been awake since the Second World War!

crm114: Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Uh WOW.

Smarshmallow: total castration protects 100% against HIV.

It hasn't seemed to protect the hijras.

cutting something off for no good reason is stupid. There is very limited evidence that the little cut helps... unless you live in a third world country with no clean water. Why is this even a debate? It's not like we cut out eyes to prevent supid children from getting pink eye - a mostly harmless and merely visual problem - just like what you'll (possibly) prevent by cutting little boys.

Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

You have just been farkied as shot glass foreskin.

stuhayes2010: What we need on fark is a news story about circumcision, motorcycles, and Apple Computers. But does Steve Jobs ride a motorcycle?

That would be a legendary thread.

It's an incomprehensible idea. It would be like finding the sorcerer's stone affixed on the tip of the horn of the patriarchal unicorn within the lands of Atlantis. Your head would instantly 'splode.

my parents fought over it.

/ mom won.
// i'm not even jewish!

Oh-Boy: cutting something off for no good reason is stupid. There is very limited evidence that the little cut helps... unless you live in a third world country with no clean water. Why is this even a debate? It's not like we cut out eyes to prevent supid children from getting pink eye - a mostly harmless and merely visual problem - just like what you'll (possibly) prevent by cutting little boys.

I don't really care but I do enjoy being able to whip it out and pee whenever and wherever I want and not have to deal with pulling skin back, cleaning the area, or whatever the hell else is involved in the operation that I don't want to know about.

Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Your doing it wrong, you'll never get her drunk that way!

xtonyx: my parents fought over it.

/ mom won.
// i'm not even jewish!

I let the husband decide because I have no idea what it's like to have a penis. He went with not cutting after getting the tour of the hospital while one was being done. Poor guy almost barfed.

U8D1EyedSnake: /farkette
//thankfully not circumcised
///that would be awful

I've been telling my wife that if she thinks circumcision is so great, she could get her clitoral hood removed for a small fee.

crm114: Oh-Boy: cutting something off for no good reason is stupid. There is very limited evidence that the little cut helps... unless you live in a third world country with no clean water. Why is this even a debate? It's not like we cut out eyes to prevent supid children from getting pink eye - a mostly harmless and merely visual problem - just like what you'll (possibly) prevent by cutting little boys.

I don't really care but I do enjoy being able to whip it out and pee whenever and wherever I want and not have to deal with pulling skin back, cleaning the area, or whatever the hell else is involved in the operation that I don't want to know about.

Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

And a PS. I told my son's Jewish pediatrician I wasn't having him cut and he went ballistic. Told me the kid's pecker wouldn't grow straight and said he would get all the diseases. Then he yanked the foreskin trying to tear it so I would have to have it done. I wanted to kill the stupid SOB on the spot but got the kid out of there and found another pediatrician. Should have reported him to the state board. Also told him that millions of years of human evolution occurred before this crap started and no one cuts any other mammal with a foreskin, i.e. horses, monkeys, apes, and for all I know whales and porpoises.

NightOwl2255: Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Your doing it wrong, you'll never get her drunk that way!

Oh, it works. Tonight I'm going for second base!

Smarshmallow: total castration protects 100% against HIV. Also population control.

crm114: Oh-Boy: cutting something off for no good reason is stupid. There is very limited evidence that the little cut helps... unless you live in a third world country with no clean water. Why is this even a debate? It's not like we cut out eyes to prevent supid children from getting pink eye - a mostly harmless and merely visual problem - just like what you'll (possibly) prevent by cutting little boys.

I don't really care but I do enjoy being able to whip it out and pee whenever and wherever I want and not have to deal with pulling skin back, cleaning the area, or whatever the hell else is involved in the operation that I don't want to know about.

Its not that hard to pee with it on there. Also you sound like you need to be on a sex offender list! Imagine peeing in a hidden corner so nobody can see you but still outside. How dare you offend any children!

NightOwl2255: Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Your doing it wrong, you'll never get her drunk that way!

Doesn't sound like getting her drunk is necessary...

crm114: Oh-Boy: cutting something off for no good reason is stupid. There is very limited evidence that the little cut helps... unless you live in a third world country with no clean water. Why is this even a debate? It's not like we cut out eyes to prevent supid children from getting pink eye - a mostly harmless and merely visual problem - just like what you'll (possibly) prevent by cutting little boys.

I don't really care but I do enjoy being able to whip it out and pee whenever and wherever I want and not have to deal with pulling skin back, cleaning the area, or whatever the hell else is involved in the operation that I don't want to know about.

Um... nothing? You jsut use soap in the shower in the morning. This is about as skill-intensive as washing your hands. If you're too retarded to do that, I think the gov. needs to repossess your johnson.

Englebert Slaptyback: NightOwl2255

Damn I love a good Thesaurus smack down!


For good or ill, the thesaurus remained undisturbed throughout the composition of that missive.

Your ebullient use of polysyllabics does engender approbation.

/Also without a thesaurus.

Keep blades away from the precious!crm114:
I don't really care but I do enjoy being able to whip it out and pee whenever and wherever I want and not have to deal with pulling skin back, cleaning the area, or whatever the hell else is involved in the operation that I don't want to know about.


And you think people who are not circumcised can't?

You know that europeans don't get circumcised, right?
And that the whole of France smells like piss?

Put two and two together here!

Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?

Gothnet: Keep blades away from the precious!crm114:
I don't really care but I do enjoy being able to whip it out and pee whenever and wherever I want and not have to deal with pulling skin back, cleaning the area, or whatever the hell else is involved in the operation that I don't want to know about.


And you think people who are not circumcised can't?

You know that europeans don't get circumcised, right?
And that the whole of France smells like piss?

Put two and two together here!

I get it now! When you surrender you pee yourself!
/oblig

Had no face, no personality, very dull. It was like a martian. But hey, that's me.

i can see where this is going:

person 1: HAHA! you sheep follow an invisible sky wizard!11 atheism rulz!!

person 2: you had your penis cut in the same way that the invisible sky wizard told some made up story book character 5000 years ago

person 1: but it protects against AIDS...

crm114: Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?

No, it doesn't. This idea makes no sense. It's like saying that the goggles get int he way of a skier, or the steering wheel is in the way of a cab driver.

Pinner: NightOwl2255: Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

Your doing it wrong, you'll never get her drunk that way!

Oh, it works. Tonight I'm going for second base!

She's taken tequila shots out of your penis, but you haven't gotten to second base?

crm114: Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?

So you pull it back a fraction. That feels good, by the way.

crm114: Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?

It does sometimes. Kind of like running the garden hose on full blast. With your fingers over the end.

genzoman: i can see where this is going:

person 1: HAHA! you sheep follow an invisible sky wizard!11 atheism rulz!!

person 2: you had your penis cut in the same way that the invisible sky wizard told some made up story book character 5000 years ago

person 1: but it protects against AIDS...

0/10 See above image regarding trolling

vinn01: What stupid women did they get to be a part of this study? They got 170 uninfected females!

"We want you to have unprotected sex with a HIV positive man. Some of the men in our study will be circumcised."

Someone thought that was a good idea? "It was found that a higher proportion of women were infected with HIV in the intervention group (18%) versus the control group (12%)."

There were 92 couples in the circumcision group and 67 in the control group were included in the final analysis. That means that 16 women in the group and 8 women in the control group were infected by participating in this study.

This is one of the huge flaws with all the HIV/Circumcision studies. They circumcise the men, then just set them and the controls loose in the population. There's no controls on their behavior. There's no checks on the women they have sex with. Are any of these men gay? Drug users? We don't know. It's not science. It's desperation.

Because as we all know HIV is not actually transmitted in ejaculate.

A perfect Fark headline. Textbook perfect. Subby gets a brand new internet (less my replacement keyboard, of course).

Oh-Boy: crm114: Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?

No, it doesn't. This idea makes no sense. It's like saying that the goggles get int he way of a skier, or the steering wheel is in the way of a cab driver.

I'm confused and troubled by your analogies.

Cybernetic

Your ebullient use of polysyllabics does engender approbation.

/Also without a thesaurus.


Word. :-)

*tips hat*

The Icelander: So it may offer some protection

You sound uncut.

Liquid Ass Fart Spray
I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.


I thought that was the best way to go too and then hubby wanted it done. Penis proxy. The doc did a good job but I'm sorry now that I didn't defend my boy's options.

EggFool: Gwendolyn:

I still need sleep.

Well you're never gonna get it! There's a guy who's been awake since the Second World War!

Wow. That may be the first BNL reference I've ever seen here.

crm114: Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.


Left my kid uncut.. see earlier posts. Not only does he pee just fine, he can write his name in the sand. In Chinese.

Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

FTA: Circumcision is known to protect men from acquiring HIV.

I think they might want to change that to "is known to help protect"

It doesn't prevent the acquisition of HIV the same way an kevlar vest doesn't protect you from being shot to death.

Accent: "a" kevlar vest

Sobrrr: Liquid Ass Fart Spray
I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.


I thought that was the best way to go too and then hubby wanted it done. Penis proxy. The doc did a good job but I'm sorry now that I didn't defend my boy's options.

In your defense, that was only the first step in completely farking up your child for life.

trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

You're not. I think so too. Cut peeners look mutilated to me, like if someone had had their earlobes cut off.

best headline of the week

karooble: trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

You're not. I think so too. Cut peeners look mutilated to me, like if someone had had their earlobes cut off.

I'd be more offended/disappointed if it wasn't for the fact that you've looked at enough peeners to have an opinion on the matter

trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

Nah, fat chicks usually like black dudes.

crm114: I'd be more offended/disappointed if it wasn't for the fact that you've looked at enough peeners to have an opinion on the matter

Through the magic of the internets, we can see infinite peeners from the comfort of our own homes!

GomezAdams: Left my kid uncut.. see earlier posts. Not only does he pee just fine, he can write his name in the sand. In Chinese.

That impresses the hell out of me.
Is he old enough to marry? Me for example?

Sorry circumcision (male or female) = butchery

crm114: genzoman: i can see where this is going:

person 1: HAHA! you sheep follow an invisible sky wizard!11 atheism rulz!!

person 2: you had your penis cut in the same way that the invisible sky wizard told some made up story book character 5000 years ago

person 1: but it protects against AIDS...

0/10 See above image regarding trolling

hey, it was the only way to bring up religion.

karooble: Through the magic of the internets, we can see infinite peeners from the comfort of our own homes!

You, madam, disgust me! Those men are exploited!

Nah, just kidding. That profile pic's pretty cute too...

karooble: crm114: I'd be more offended/disappointed if it wasn't for the fact that you've looked at enough peeners to have an opinion on the matter

Through the magic of the internets, we can see infinite peeners from the comfort of our own homes!

Touche...*looks at karooble's profile*...uh hold on...*googles foreskin reconstruction surgery*

Farkwaddle: EggFool: Gwendolyn:

I still need sleep.

Well you're never gonna get it! There's a guy who's been awake since the Second World War!

Wow. That may be the first BNL reference I've ever seen here.

Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?

crm114: karooble: crm114: I'd be more offended/disappointed if it wasn't for the fact that you've looked at enough peeners to have an opinion on the matter

Through the magic of the internets, we can see infinite peeners from the comfort of our own homes!

Touche...*looks at karooble's profile*...uh hold on...*googles foreskin reconstruction surgery*

Surgery? Just do stretches. It'll take a while, but you can stretch it back out. It's kind of cool.

/thanks peen & tellher

wyrlss: /thanks peen & tellher

Penn & Teller are some of the coolest performers ever. Does anybody know if Bullsh*t! is going to get a sixth season?

griffer: The Icelander: So it may offer some protection

You sound uncut.

You think you're soooooooo funny.

peart2112: Sorry circumcision (male or female) = butchery

Sexy butchery.

mrapier: griffer: The Icelander: So it may offer some protection

You sound uncut.

You think you're soooooooo funny.

I know your gay husband is cut.

These circumcision cultists never cease to amaze me and offend FSM. Why worship cutting the willy wally so much?

griffer: mrapier: griffer: The Icelander: So it may offer some protection

You sound uncut.

You think you're soooooooo funny.

I know your gay husband is cut.

and thank god too, I hear you feel more sensations as a cuttee and what with my cavernous vag...I need all the help I can get.

Abandoning my usual rants about circumcision in this case:

FTA "In this study, 922 uncircumcised, HIV-infected, asymptomatic men aged 15-49 years with HIV were enrolled in the Rakai district of Uganda.

Men were then selected to have immediate circumcision (474 men) or to be given circumcision after two years (448 men).

Almost 170 uninfected female partners of the men were also enrolled, and followed up at six, 12, and 24 months. "
Let me get this straight: These actual doctors encouraged men they knew to be HIV positive to continue to have unprotected sex with uninfected females - for the purpose of the study?

These doctors should be stripped of their licences. And then get a further, complete circumcision. And then be shot. That's farkin murder.

wyrlss: Surgery? Just do stretches. It'll take a while, but you can stretch it back out. It's kind of cool.

/thanks peen & tellher

mrapier: and thank god too, I hear you feel more sensations as a cuttee and what with my cavernous vag...I need all the help I can get.

That would seem not to be the case, With the nerve endings in the skin itself gone and the desensitisation of the head.

I've heard some women say they think the feeling for them is better though.

/Yes, I have had this discussion IRL. It was weird.
//Thankfully everyone was drunk as hell.
///no, not drunk enough for show and tell, thank god

mrapier: griffer: mrapier: griffer: The Icelander: So it may offer some protection

You sound uncut.

You think you're soooooooo funny.

I know your gay husband is cut.

and thank god too, I hear you feel more sensations as a cuttee and what with my cavernous vag...I need all the help I can get.

I like the curve he has. It's unique and hits my prostate just right.

Farkwaddle: Crewmannumber6: griffer: Crewmannumber6: That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

You sound uncut.

Ya think? Was born in Ireland but grew up in America where, apparently, they do things a little different

The Jews brainwashed us into thinking penile vanity was important. Wait..wha??

Question for anyone: when a jewish woman has a mastectomy, does she have to wear a cloth tit on her head in temple?

EggFool: Farkwaddle: EggFool: Gwendolyn:

I still need sleep.

Well you're never gonna get it! There's a guy who's been awake since the Second World War!

Wow. That may be the first BNL reference I've ever seen here.

Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?

Unexpected, but completely cromulant to the comment.

RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: Farkwaddle: Crewmannumber6: griffer: Crewmannumber6: That may very well be true but having a turtle neck in a crew neck world made showering after gym class very awkward in high school

You sound uncut.

Ya think? Was born in Ireland but grew up in America where, apparently, they do things a little different

The Jews brainwashed us into thinking penile vanity was important. Wait..wha??

Question for anyone: when a jewish woman has a mastectomy, does she have to wear a cloth tit on her head in temple?

That's an entirely different thread altogether. (insert Airplane! pic here)

GomezAdams: And a PS. I told my son's Jewish pediatrician I wasn't having him cut and he went ballistic. Told me the kid's pecker wouldn't grow straight and said he would get all the diseases. Then he yanked the foreskin trying to tear it so I would have to have it done. I wanted to kill the stupid SOB on the spot but got the kid out of there and found another pediatrician. Should have reported him to the state board. Also told him that millions of years of human evolution occurred before this crap started and no one cuts any other mammal with a foreskin, i.e. horses, monkeys, apes, and for all I know whales and porpoises.

Uhhh, dude, if that's true, you ABSOLUTELY need to have this guy brought up on criminal assault charges, possibly sexual assault charges, never mind that state board crap. A pediatrician who attacks baby penises in order to rend the skin needs to been taken away and locked in a padded room.

Gothnet: mrapier: and thank god too, I hear you feel more sensations as a cuttee and what with my cavernous vag...I need all the help I can get.

That would seem not to be the case, With the nerve endings in the skin itself gone and the desensitisation of the head.

I've heard some women say they think the feeling for them is better though.

/Yes, I have had this discussion IRL. It was weird.
//Thankfully everyone was drunk as hell.
///no, not drunk enough for show and tell, thank god

I got the information for that Dr. Oz guy on Oprah, he said the head is more sensitive because the skin is not there to "protect" it.

Gothnet: desensitisation of the head.

You can use ultra fine sandpaper to remove some skin from the glans and heighten sensitivity.

griffer: mrapier: griffer: mrapier: griffer: The Icelander: So it may offer some protection

You sound uncut.

You think you're soooooooo funny.

I know your gay husband is cut.

and thank god too, I hear you feel more sensations as a cuttee and what with my cavernous vag...I need all the help I can get.

I like the curve he has. It's unique and hits my prostate just right.

oh my god.

:)

circumcision for vanity reasons is stupid. you have a giant scar around your cock and its ugly.

makes as much sense as cutting off nipples.

Hyperbolic Hyperbole: circumcision for vanity reasons is stupid. you have a giant scar around your cock and its ugly.

makes as much sense as cutting off nipples.

should I have not done that?

mrapier: I got the information for that Dr. Oz guy on Oprah, he said the head is more sensitive because the skin is not there to "protect" it.

Well, I wouldn't know for sure, I'm not in a position to do a comparative study, but that sounds bogus.

FYI the foreskin sorta recedes a bit when you're ready to go and rolls back and forth during sex, it's not like it's fixed and covers the head totally or constantly. The converse I've heard is that having it constantly exposed to the rubbing of your clothes desensitizes it over time.

trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

*ahem*......How YOU doin'?

Gothnet: FYI the foreskin sorta recedes a bit when you're ready to go

You sound uncut.

Here in the UK the default is to keep the foreskin on, and circumcision is seen as very much a Jewish thing.

Thus as someone who is totally intact, I can personally attest that the foreskin is full of sexual nerves and is very much part of my sexual experience. Removing it from a little boy either for vicarious vanity or because you follow Abrahams instructions despite not being a jew (and even if you are, frankly) is sexual assault, resulting in permanent damage to the sexual capacity of the penis. It's that simple.

griffer: You can use ultra fine sandpaper to remove some skin from the glans and heighten sensitivity.

mrapier: Hyperbolic Hyperbole: circumcision for vanity reasons is stupid. you have a giant scar around your cock and its ugly.

makes as much sense as cutting off nipples.

should I have not done that?

I have something of an inability not to find it cute when *you* do it.

griffer: Gothnet: desensitisation of the head.

You can use ultra fine sandpaper to remove some skin from the glans and heighten sensitivity.

Oh...Dear...Lord. You have no idea how my peen and I hate you right now.

WEIRD AND GAY ALERT

griffer sounds like he's cataloguing penises.

/let me have your list when youre done

griffer: You can use ultra fine sandpaper to remove some skin from the glans and heighten sensitivity.

We're going to have a story about some guy getting his schlong stuck in the sander now...

hockeyfarker: WEIRD AND GAY ALERT

WHAT?

hockeyfarker: WEIRD AND GAY ALERT

wee oh wee oh wee oh

karooble: wyrlss: /thanks peen & tellher

Penn & Teller are some of the coolest performers ever. Does anybody know if Bullsh*t! is going to get a sixth season?

The new season has been airing for 4 weeks now

I'm on the pro circumcision side of the debate only because their seems to be some sort of social stigma against uncut weeners in this country. Don't want the future children to get cock blocked by some whore who doesn't realize what it's really supposed to look like, and refuses to go near it.

spman: I'm on the pro circumcision side of the debate

...because this is DEFINITELY something that should not be undertaken by amateurs...

crm114: wyrlss: Surgery? Just do stretches. It'll take a while, but you can stretch it back out. It's kind of cool.

/thanks peen & tellher

Once its gone its gone. There are more nerves per square inch in a foreskin than in your lips. You can't grow that back or stretch it out.

I'm cut and I bear no one ill will over my lack of fore skin. Sex is great. This whole mutilation defense for males would work if a lot of guys weren't exactly like me. I'm not mutilated so its not mutilation.

spman: Don't want the future children to get cock blocked by some whore who doesn't realize what it's really supposed to look like, and refuses to go near it.

In Africa, they lovingly scoop out girls clitorises with hot spoon, to ensure they will get a good husband and not get rejected for being whole and unmutilated.

spman: Don't want the future children to get cock blocked by some whore who doesn't realize what it's really supposed to look like, and refuses to go near it.

I understood the "mix" in the US was getting more varied.

Either way, she ain't worth it!

spman: karooble: wyrlss: /thanks peen & tellher

Penn & Teller are some of the coolest performers ever. Does anybody know if Bullsh*t! is going to get a sixth season?

The new season has been airing for 4 weeks now

I'm on the pro circumcision side of the debate only because their seems to be some sort of social stigma against uncut weeners in this country. Don't want the future children to get cock blocked by some whore who doesn't realize what it's really supposed to look like, and refuses to go near it.

You know how sometimes, people are genetically farking stupid, so that your kid shouldn't be banging them anyway despite the fact they're fantastically hot? Yeah, if she's so stupid she doesn't know what a dick actually looks like, your kid doesn't need to bang her.

I like the cut of your jib

mrapier: wee oh wee oh wee oh

If I miss TF, it's because of you and people like you.

Gothnet: mrapier: I got the information for that Dr. Oz guy on Oprah, he said the head is more sensitive because the skin is not there to "protect" it.

Well, I wouldn't know for sure, I'm not in a position to do a comparative study, but that sounds bogus.

FYI the foreskin sorta recedes a bit when you're ready to go and rolls back and forth during sex, it's not like it's fixed and covers the head totally or constantly. The converse I've heard is that having it constantly exposed to the rubbing of your clothes desensitizes it over time.

So then cut guys tend to last longer... got it.

spman: Don't want the future children to get cock blocked by some whore who doesn't realize what it's really supposed to look like, and refuses to go near it.

If you don't teach your son to get her more drunk than that, it's your failing as a parent.

I bet if they did a study where they just cut the whole penis off they would get a much lower transmission rate. They might get fewer volunteers. I'm not sure how they got so many volunteers in the first place.

Cut off all penises! Cure aids! Start with all the dicks in the Fark thread!

Wait! What?

mrapier: hockeyfarker: WEIRD AND GAY ALERT

wee oh wee oh wee oh

How does one make the leap from circumcising males in North America to circumcising females in Africa? I'm just curious how that thought process workes.

/cut
//two sons, both cut.

Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

Win ! did the same thing its up to them its not my peener

MK-Ultra71: How does one make the leap from circumcising males in North America to circumcising females in Africa? I'm just curious how that thought process workes.

/cut
//two sons, both cut.

It's body mutilation based on taboos, body image and sexual shame.

There is no medical reason to do it, and ultimately you are doing it without the child mature consent.

ZannSu: So then cut guys tend to last longer... got it.

That's a whole other scientific study I've not done. Could be true, might not be.As I said, I've met at least one woman that preferred the feeling of a cut guy to an uncut guy. Much to the disappointment of her fiance who was in the room at the time we were having this conversation.

YMMV.

attention span of a retarded fruit fly: Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

Win ! did the same thing its up to them its not my peener

MK-Ultra71, please see above.

If I ever have a son, I'm going to leave him uncut, like me. I'll instruct him in the ways of proper foreskin hygiene, and he'll wind up being a normal, healthy, sexually active adult, like me. If you want to cut the tip of your kid's dick off, by all means, do it. But you'll never convince me to do it with my kid, ever.

But most importantly, you know who else hated circumsiscion?

griffer: But most importantly, you know who else hated circumsiscion?

Was it He-Man?

Its such a ridiculous concept in the first place. The control study to show that circumcized men are less prone to get hiv was done where hiv is already rampant, and where no one is circumcized. Of course, the numbers will be seemingly high, but as all you vaccination freaks love to say 'correlation does not equal causation'.

Simple fact, every 20 years or so, the powers that be try to force circumcision, citing a new reason why. Today's topic of the day is hiv/aids so that is the reason why.

Hey, i'm not anti-circumcision, but its pretty bogus to manipulate studies to push a political agenda.

griffer: But most importantly, you know who else hated circumsiscion?

My uncle?

IXI Jim IXI: spman: I'm on the pro circumcision side of the debate

...because this is DEFINITELY something that should not be undertaken by amateurs...

Teehee :)

Hyperbolic Hyperbole: mrapier: wee oh wee oh wee oh

If I miss TF, it's because of you and people like you.


You're a sweet talker but I'm saving my $5 for a cheap beer after work.

/if you're ever in NYC I'm pouring you a cab

RE-TARD-ED: From the WIKI

Non-religious circumcision in the English-speaking world
Infant circumcision was taken up in the United States, Australia and the English-speaking parts of Canada, South Africa, New Zealand and to a lesser extent in the United Kingdom. There are several hypotheses to explain why infant circumcision was accepted in the United States about the year 1900. The germ theory of disease elicited an image of the human body as a conveyance for many dangerous germs, making the public "germ phobic" and suspicious of dirt and bodily secretions. The penis became "dirty" by association with its function, and from this premise circumcision was seen as preventative medicine to be practiced universally.[20] In the view of many practitioners at the time, circumcision was a method of treating and preventing masturbation.[20] Aggleton wrote that John Kellogg viewed male circumcision in this way, and further "advocated an unashamedly punitive approach."[21] Circumcision was also said to protect against syphilis,[22] phimosis, paraphimosis, balanitis, and "excessive venery" (which was believed to produce paralysis).[20] Gollaher states that physicians advocating circumcision in the late nineteenth century expected public skepticism, and refined their arguments to overcome it.[20]
Although it is difficult to determine historical circumcision rates, one estimate of infant circumcision rates in the United States holds that 32% of newborn American boys were being circumcised in 1933.[23] Laumann et al. reported that the prevalence of circumcision among US-born males was approximately 70%, 80%, 85%, and 77% for those born in 1945, 1955, 1965, and 1971 respectively.[23] Xu et al. reported that the prevalence of circumcision among US-born males was 91% for males born in the 1970s and 84% for those born in the 1980s.[24] Between 1981 and 1999, National Hospital Discharge Survey data from the National Center for Health Statistics demonstrated that the infant circumcision rate remained relatively stable within the 60% range, with a minimum of 60.7% in 1988 and a maximum of 67.8% in 1995.[25] A 1987 study found that the most prominent reasons US parents choose circumcision were "concerns about the attitudes of peers and their sons' self concept in the future," rather than medical concerns.[26] However, a later study speculated that an increased recognition of the potential benefits of neonatal circumcision may have been responsible for the observed increase in the US rate between 1988 and 2000.[27] A report by the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality placed the 2005 national circumcision rate at 56%.[28]
In 1949, the United Kingdom's newly-formed National Health Service removed infant circumcision from its list of covered services, and circumcision has since been an out-of-pocket cost to parents. As a result, prevalence in the UK is age-graded, with 12% of those aged 16-19 years circumcised and 20% of those aged 40-44 years,[29] and the proportion of newborns circumcised in England and Wales has fallen to less than one percent.
The circumcision rate has declined sharply in Australia since the 1970s, leading to an age-graded fall in prevalence, with a 2000-01 survey finding 32% of those aged 16-19 years circumcised, 50% for 20-29 years and 64% for those aged 30-39 years.[30][31]
In Canada, individual provincial health services began delisting circumcision in the 1980s.[citation needed]

mrapier: griffer: But most importantly, you know who else hated circumsiscion?

My uncle?

Is he a Nazi?

Heamer: If I ever have a son, I'm going to leave him uncut, like me. I'll instruct him in the ways of proper foreskin hygiene, and he'll wind up being a normal, healthy, sexually active adult, like me. If you want to cut the tip of your kid's dick off, by all means, do it. But you'll never convince me to do it with my kid, ever.

Theres... proper hygiene.....

mrapier: Hyperbolic Hyperbole: mrapier: wee oh wee oh wee oh

If I miss TF, it's because of you and people like you.


You're a sweet talker but I'm saving my $5 for a cheap beer after work.

/if you're ever in NYC I'm pouring you a cab

Were I fishing for TF, I'd have had it by now.

/I'll be sure to announce any plans to go to NYC

CUT.

Look up Rambam's theory on why the old school jews did this. It sounds like his opinion is that the whole Abrahamic god is a cover for a lot of rational thoughts. Like you're supposed to receive less pleasure and therefor be more studious.

I'd like to know of anyone who had some sex > 100 times uncircumcised and some sex > 100 times and get them to tell us if there was a great difference in the feeling.

I'd also like to know (via scientific survey) how women who have been with both circ'ed and uncirc'ed men feel about them. (Women who have only been with one type of man seem to irrationally fear the other type) Also if there is a striking difference in sexual pleasure derived from the types of penii, or alternately if there are differences in sexual adventurism in the man (from her perspective)

Had my three sons cut as well.

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: CUT.

Look up Rambam's theory on why the old school jews did this. It sounds like his opinion is that the whole Abrahamic god is a cover for a lot of rational thoughts. Like you're supposed to receive less pleasure and therefor be more studious.

I'd like to know of anyone who had some sex > 100 times uncircumcised and some sex > 100 times and get them to tell us if there was a great difference in the feeling.

I'd also like to know (via scientific survey) how women who have been with both circ'ed and uncirc'ed men feel about them. (Women who have only been with one type of man seem to irrationally fear the other type) Also if there is a striking difference in sexual pleasure derived from the types of penii, or alternately if there are differences in sexual adventurism in the man (from her perspective)

Had my three sons cut as well.

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: Like you're supposed to receive less pleasure and therefor be more studious.

I think I'd prefer my son to learn to control himself without chopping off part of his pecker.

MK-Ultra71, please see above.

If I thought the act of circumcision was in anyway harmful I would not have done it. I don't so I did. I'm cut and don't see the big deal.

sdaas: Theres... proper hygiene.....

You better believe it, man.

Hyperbolic Hyperbole: mrapier: Hyperbolic Hyperbole: mrapier: wee oh wee oh wee oh

If I miss TF, it's because of you and people like you.


You're a sweet talker but I'm saving my $5 for a cheap beer after work.

/if you're ever in NYC I'm pouring you a cab

Were I fishing for TF, I'd have had it by now.

/I'll be sure to announce any plans to go to NYC

I know, they're crying about your not being there

Liquid Ass Fart Spray: I could not really care less what other people do with their kids but as a parent of 2 ( gonna be 3 in Jan) I would rather leave it up to the person with the penis. I left them uncircumcised, if they wanna do it they can but at least I gave them the option either way.

That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

griffer sounds like a circumcised bloke stole his woman because she preferred the cut dick.

I don't remember Kellog saying anything about circumcision in "The Road to Wellville"!

/An erection is a flagpole on your grave!

Pinner: It does sometimes. Kind of like running the garden hose on full blast. With your fingers over the end.

Uh, what?

I don't know what kind of wizard sleeves you guys have going on, but I'm uncut and the foreskin barely more than halfway past the head.




What symbolism for an uncut phallus may look like.

mrapier: I know, they're crying about your not being there

oh, they are NOT.

T.rex: Its such a ridiculous concept in the first place. The control study to show that circumcized men are less prone to get hiv was done where hiv is already rampant, and where no one is circumcized. Of course, the numbers will be seemingly high, but as all you vaccination freaks love to say 'correlation does not equal causation'.

Simple fact, every 20 years or so, the powers that be try to force circumcision, citing a new reason why. Today's topic of the day is hiv/aids so that is the reason why.

Hey, i'm not anti-circumcision, but its pretty bogus to manipulate studies to push a political agenda.

How is circumcision a political agenda? I'm confuzzled

CrazyCracka420: That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

THIS

If a woman demands you get circumcised for her you better get BJs or sex whenever/however/wherever you demand it for the rest of your life in return

"He only took tips"




/obscure?

CrazyCracka420: How is circumcision a political agenda? I'm confuzzled

Well, it's not been a scientific agenda for quite a while, at least where we all live, here in the first world with running water and daily bathing.

Jubeebee: Pinner:
What symbolism for an uncut phallus may look like.

Yep, something that gets licked often...

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: CUT.


Had my three sons cut as well.

I hope they forgive you.

karooble: trintrin: Debate aside, I think I'm the only female in the US who actually thinks that uncut weenies are more attractive.

You're not. I think so too. Cut peeners look mutilated to me, like if someone had had their earlobes cut off.

There are at least three of us. I like the uncut ones because the cut ones have weird scars on them.

I'm kind of thankful that I was circumsized. After all, I'm able to open the window and let a breeze roll in...

which makes me:


JIZZ IN MY PANTS!

Heamer: sdaas: Theres... proper hygiene.....

You better believe it, man.

And now It makes complete since why they used to cut it back in the day.

Suddenly I'm craving penis.

Pinner: My GF stretches the skin out as far a she can, then does tequila shots out of it.

First good use for that thing I've heard of.

But I call BS 'cause an ex of mine dipped my junk in a shot of Goldschlagger and it burned like hell.
Won't do THAT again.

GoatEwHelenWate: There are at least three of us. I like the uncut ones because the cut ones have weird scars on them.

You study them that closely and intently? Really?

It's about aesthetics to me, I'm circ'ed, I like the clean/smooth look, and can't imagine having a flap of skin there. That being said, if you're not circ'ed, who cares, I wouldn't ever go out and get circ'ed if my parents didn't do me the favor when I was a little baby.

And from what I can tell from the series of tubes, and past gf's, is that it makes no difference at all for the vast majority (which I don't know why it would).

zoips: CrazyCracka420: How is circumcision a political agenda? I'm confuzzled

Well, it's not been a scientific agenda for quite a while, at least where we all live, here in the first world with running water and daily bathing.

So it not being a scientific agenda makes it political? I'm confused...I just think it's what's ingrained in people, is what they are comfortable with, or what they are used to seeing. I guess I didn't realize there was this big pro-circumcision conspiracy that's sweeping the globe.

CrazyCracka420: That being said, if you're not circ'ed, who cares, I wouldn't ever go out and get circ'ed if my parents didn't do me the favor when I was a little baby.
.

They didn't do you a favor.

The Envoy: griffer sounds like a circumcised bloke stole his woman because she preferred the cut dick.

Nope, I'm cut.

Really, really wish my parents hadn't though.

MK-Ultra71, please see above.

Jubeebee: Pinner: It does sometimes. Kind of like running the garden hose on full blast. With your fingers over the end.

Uh, what?

I don't know what kind of wizard sleeves you guys have going on, but I'm uncut and the foreskin barely more than halfway past the head.

What symbolism for an uncut phallus may look like.

Look up phimosis. That's not far enough, but there are non-surgical solutions that American circumcision-happy doctors don't know about.

CrazyCracka420: That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

I was in hospital with a 15 year old who had to have a circumcision for medical reasons. I was only 7, but I remember that poor kid's pain. He moaned, cried and screamed most of the time. I had surgery on my balls (undescended testicle) and I got off lightly compared to him. Doing it later in life is certainly not an option anybody not in medical strife chooses.

Also, what's all this shiate about terrible scars? I must have had a good doctor, because I never even knew there was scarring until I read a Fark thread where someone had obviously seen a Freddie Krueger knob and thought that was how they all were.

foo monkey: CrazyCracka420: That being said, if you're not circ'ed, who cares, I wouldn't ever go out and get circ'ed if my parents didn't do me the favor when I was a little baby.
.

They didn't do you a favor, in MY opinion

FTFY

CrazyCracka420: That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

Surely they would realise how circumcision is superior and get it done? They do have a choice, it is still there and they can choose to have it removed. If they have phimosis (that cannot be resolved with steroids)/get bored of giving it a rub every morning in the shower/convert to judaism/just fancy a change, they can have it done. If you get them cut and they decide they didn't like it that way, they cannot get it reversed (stretching skin back over the head is nothing like the real thing).

I don't know how you can say that no one in their right mind would get it done to themselves and then say you would have it done to someone else.

foo monkey: CrazyCracka420: That being said, if you're not circ'ed, who cares, I wouldn't ever go out and get circ'ed if my parents didn't do me the favor when I was a little baby.
.

They didn't do you a favor.

They did, because I like the look, and there's no wind resistance, so easier to pound away ;)

That being said, did you read the rest of my post? It really doesn't matter one way or the other, but I have a preference for the clean look.

I've got the most sanctified johnson in all of Louisiana.

/no shiat
//RIP FZ

When my parents need my help in their old age, I will whip out my mangle, mutilate, sanded, stretched schlong and tell them to fark off.

spman: karooble: wyrlss: /thanks peen & tellher

Penn & Teller are some of the coolest performers ever. Does anybody know if Bullsh*t! is going to get a sixth season?

The new season has been airing for 4 weeks now

I'm on the pro circumcision side of the debate only because their seems to be some sort of social stigma against uncut weeners in this country. Don't want the future children to get cock blocked by some whore who doesn't realize what it's really supposed to look like, and refuses to go near it.

Back in college I had a roommate that was uncut. He confessed that he felt that it was definitely a detriment to his sex life. Not only did many US women find it unnerving, but he was also constantly getting yeast infections. At one point he confessed that he and his girlfriend had been passing back and forth the same yeast infection for several months.

Edd17: CrazyCracka420: That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

Surely they would realise how circumcision is superior and get it done? They do have a choice, it is still there and they can choose to have it removed. If they have phimosis (that cannot be resolved with steroids)/get bored of giving it a rub every morning in the shower/convert to judaism/just fancy a change, they can have it done. If you get them cut and they decide they didn't like it that way, they cannot get it reversed (stretching skin back over the head is nothing like the real thing).

I don't know how you can say that no one in their right mind would get it done to themselves and then say you would have it done to someone else.

You're a f*cking moron...

Doing it to a baby is different than having a grown man get circ'ed. Adult male circumcision is hell, you get a boner and you can get the stitches to come out...it's painful, and you have a doc coming at your penis with a knife.

Parents are deciding for their kids whether or not they'll be circ'ed for life. If you circ them, or not, I can tell you they won't get the procedure done later in life (there's no point in doing it, unless it's medical).

The Envoy: Also, what's all this shiate about terrible scars? I must have had a good doctor, because I never even knew there was scarring until I read a Fark thread where someone had obviously seen a Freddie Krueger knob and thought that was how they all were.

I've been wondering that as well, mine is as smooth, immaculate, and beautiful as a Roman column.

crm114: Smarshmallow: Right. If the kid won't remember it, it isn't traumatic. I think that you'll have a lot of support for this theory among the Catholic priesthood.

How was that a troll? I'm surprised that nobody has explained this to you, but you disagreeing with a statement doesn't make that statement a troll. Some people find genital mutilation disgusting. My wife's a nurse, and was pro-circumcision until she actually saw one performed.

MK-Ultra71: This whole mutilation defense for males would work if a lot of guys weren't exactly like me. I'm not mutilated so its not mutilation.

Lots of other guys are white, therefore Im not white.

Great logic there sparky.

// sounds like part of your brain was severed too

someahole: At one point he confessed that he and his girlfriend had been passing back and forth the same yeast infection for several months.

Love bread.

Slartibartfaster: MK-Ultra71: This whole mutilation defense for males would work if a lot of guys weren't exactly like me. I'm not mutilated so its not mutilation.

Lots of other guys are white, therefore Im not white.

Great logic there sparky.

// sounds like part of your brain was severed too

And at that point I would get cut.

/uncut

I am cut. My son (who will be born within the week), will also be cut.


/That is all.

Slartibartfaster: MK-Ultra71: This whole mutilation defense for males would work if a lot of guys weren't exactly like me. I'm not mutilated so its not mutilation.

Lots of other guys are white, therefore Im not white.

Great logic there sparky.

// sounds like part of your brain was severed too

I bet he declaws his cats, too.

Smarshmallow: crm114: Smarshmallow: Right. If the kid won't remember it, it isn't traumatic. I think that you'll have a lot of support for this theory among the Catholic priesthood.

How was that a troll? I'm surprised that nobody has explained this to you, but you disagreeing with a statement doesn't make that statement a troll. Some people find genital mutilation disgusting. My wife's a nurse, and was pro-circumcision until she actually saw one performed.

How hard is it to snip off some excess skin and sew it back up? It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

Isuldirs: will also be cut.

*shudders*

The Envoy:
Also, what's all this shiate about terrible scars? I must have had a good doctor, because I never even knew there was scarring until I read a Fark thread where someone had obviously seen a Freddie Krueger knob and thought that was how they all were.

Maybe my circumcision was done by a crappy doctor (wouldn't surprise me), but I have no problem seeing where my foreskin was removed; there's a pretty obvious band of scar tissue. That being said, I can see the exact same thing on every single cut guy in porn also *insert ghey joke here*. So yeah, if you're cut, I'm pretty sure you'll have a pretty damn obvious band of scar tissue on your dick.

CrazyCracka420: It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

And if society thought a left foot was useless and ugly, would you cut that off too?

This thread is worth less without pics.

CrazyCracka420: That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

Jesus, that's some of the worst logic that I've ever seen.

griffer: Isuldirs: will also be cut.

*shudders*

It's a f*cking baby...he won't remember and there won't be any lasting effects, other than a penis that's streamlined for efficient f*cking. Plus, in countries like the US, it's the norm. Most women can get over it, but there are some who can't get over a non-circ'ed penis.

Let's talk about dicks some more.

YUMMY!

CrazyCracka420: It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

...and make sure it doesn't get out? :D

CrazyCracka420: griffer: Isuldirs: will also be cut.

*shudders*

It's a f*cking baby...he won't remember and there won't be any lasting effects, other than a penis that's streamlined for efficient f*cking. Plus, in countries like the US, it's the norm. Most women can get over it, but there are some who can't get over a non-circ'ed penis.

Only in the US. Only.

And not for much longer.

griffer: CrazyCracka420: It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

And if society thought a left foot was useless and ugly, would you cut that off too?

Considering it's not useless, or ugly, I would not. How is cutting off some excess skin a big deal?

attention thread, the weird and gay threat level is PINK, repeat, we are at code PINK

Isuldirs: /That is all.

he's gonna have a great life

// anything else ya want chopped off him ? I hear chicks hate ear lobes.

griffer: CrazyCracka420: It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

And if society thought a left foot was useless and ugly, would you cut that off too?

If I got one of those cool running legs then yes.

CrazyCracka420: and there won't be any lasting effects, other than a penis that's streamlined for efficient f*cking.

efficient f*cking?

You sound like the Protestants from the Every Sperm is Sacred sketch from Meaning of Life...

The Envoy: I was in hospital with a 15 year old who had to have a circumcision for medical reasons. I was only 7, but I remember that poor kid's pain. He moaned, cried and screamed most of the time. I had surgery on my balls (undescended testicle) and I got off lightly compared to him. Doing it later in life is certainly not an option anybody not in medical strife chooses.

This I think is likely one of the best arguments for it. All evidence suggests infants forget about it hours later. But as an adult it requires a morphine drip to dull the pain just a little.

Hygiene isn't such a big issue, though you never know what the future holds. 18 months ago a bunch of people thought they were living the good life with multiple cars and big homes... now their cars and homes are gone and they live in subsidized motel rooms....
I guess it is possible anyone in any circumstances could end up in a bad way... likely? Guess that depends on how much faith you have in the economy and your government. Will Obama protect your penis?

CrazyCracka420: griffer: CrazyCracka420: It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

And if society thought a left foot was useless and ugly, would you cut that off too?

Considering it's not useless, or ugly, I would not. How is cutting off some excess skin a big deal?

That excess skin that got cut off has more nerve endings than the rest of the skin left on your dick. But I imagine you still think it's useless.

CrazyCracka420: Considering it's not useless, or ugly, I would not.

That's like your opinion.

What about ears? The point is, there is no reason to do it.

Other than conformity.

And it damages the sexual function of the penis. This is medical fact.

BUT KEEP ON CUTTING YOUR SINS DICKS BECAUSE YOU HAD YOUR MANGLED!

The foreskin of the father are not tolerated on the son, either, i see.

Smarshmallow: crm114: Smarshmallow: Right. If the kid won't remember it, it isn't traumatic. I think that you'll have a lot of support for this theory among the Catholic priesthood.

How was that a troll? I'm surprised that nobody has explained this to you, but you disagreeing with a statement doesn't make that statement a troll. Some people find genital mutilation disgusting. My wife's a nurse, and was pro-circumcision until she actually saw one performed.

It wasn't the disagreement that was a troll, it was bringing up the Catholic priesthood abuse when it had nothing to do with the subject at hand. Those cases involve alter boys and such who, quite obviously, can remember the abuse and thus talk about it. I don't know one person who was circumcised as a baby and remembers the pain or trauma, and to equate circumcision with sexual abuse is pretty damn retarded in terms of long term effects and the motivation behind them.

/damn you for making me be serious in a thread that's this much fun...for God's sake I got to type the phrase "take a tequila shot out of your penis" earlier

CrazyCracka420: streamlined for efficient f*cking

errr

ya know the foreskin is there for a reason right ?

something about .... well I guess you will never know.

(do uncut guys not realize that it unfurls itself when required ?!?, like the well made tool it is)

thenateman: Suddenly I'm craving penis.

Me too. Just the tip though.

Lumpmoose:

Look up phimosis. That's not far enough, but there are non-surgical solutions that American circumcision-happy doctors don't know about.

It's plenty far enough. Never had any discomfort with it.

I remember when I was a kid it could go all the way over the tip, but I'd have to stretch it to get it there now.

DIGITALgimpus: Hygiene isn't such a big issue, though you never know what the future holds. 18 months ago a bunch of people thought they were living the good life with multiple cars and big homes... now their cars and homes are gone and they live in subsidized motel rooms....

Well, perhaps they could sell the kid's extra dick-skin to pay some bills...

SONS, YOURS.

/durr

Smarshmallow: CrazyCracka420: That's not giving them an option, they're not gonna get circ'ed. Nobody in their right mind would let a doc come at their penis with a knife. I'll prob get my kids circ'ed (if I have kids, and boys someday). But to honestly believe you're "giving them a choice" is bullshiat, you're choosing them to remain uncircumcised.

Jesus, that's some of the worst logic that I've ever seen.

How is that bad logic? I don't think any adult male in their right mind would get circumcised, and that's including those like myself, who are circ'ed already (if we were to pretend we weren't). If that's the case (which I guarantee it is), then how is it giving your baby a choice to leave them uncircumcised? They aren't going to go out and get circ'ed, because (as I already said, and I think any male would agree), a dude's not gonna go out and let a doc come at his penis with a knife. The post-op is horrible for circumcision, the only way someone would do it as an adult, is for medical reasons.

You can argue all you want about whether or not to circ your baby, but don't give me the copout that "you're giving them a choice", that's bullsh*t, and anyone in their right mind knows it.

Slartibartfaster: he's gonna have a great life

I had one. Got two loving parents who make a great living, chances to travel, and a dink like his Pops. He will have a great life.

anything else ya want chopped off him ? I hear chicks hate ear lobes.

Wow. Over dramatize much?

Jubeebee: I remember when I was a kid it could go all the way over the tip, but I'd have to stretch it to get it there now.

Or jump into cold water.

IXI Jim IXI: CrazyCracka420: and there won't be any lasting effects, other than a penis that's streamlined for efficient f*cking.

efficient f*cking?

You sound like the Protestants from the Every Sperm is Sacred sketch from Meaning of Life...

It's a joke...I put racing stripes on my penis too. Less wind resistance.

Slartibartfaster: do uncut guys not realize that it unfurls itself when required ?!?

Americans is dumb.

someahole: Back in college I had a roommate that was uncut. He confessed that he felt that it was definitely a detriment to his sex life. Not only did many US women find it unnerving, but he was also constantly getting yeast infections. At one point he confessed that he and his girlfriend had been passing back and forth the same yeast infection for several months.

As is usual in cases like this, it seems that his problem was not being uncut, but simply poor hygiene (either that or his girl was a damn nasty skank). Seriously, if you're uncut, just wash it. It's really not any bigger of a deal than a woman having to manage her constantly-moist parts. Moist and covered doesn't mean gross and stanky.

griffer: Let's talk about dicks some more.

YUMMY!

PENIS PENIS PENIS

CrazyCracka420: It's a joke...I put racing stripes on my penis too. Less wind resistance.

Yeah, but also plenty of women scouring the internet trying to figure out what disease gives you read lines down your shaft :D

CrazyCracka420: It's like getting cats declawed, you have to do it when they're still very little.

yea it is

// stay the hell away from my cat too

CrazyCracka420: I put racing stripes on my penis

Nope, the mohel put that stripe there for you.

crm114: GoatEwHelenWate: There are at least three of us. I like the uncut ones because the cut ones have weird scars on them.

You study them that closely and intently? Really?

I look very carefully at everything that goes in my mouth. Really.

Jubeebee: griffer: Let's talk about dicks some more.

YUMMY!

PENIS PENIS PENIS

LABIA! LABIA! LABIA!

From USA Today:

Women whose sexual partners are circumcised are less likely to develop cervical cancer than the partners of uncircumcised men, concludes a report out today.

The difference was statistically significant only in the partners of men considered to be at high risk for infection with human papillomavirus, or HPV, according to the study in The New England Journal of Medicine. Such men had had at least six sexual partners in their lifetime, beginning before age 17.

HPV causes genital warts in men and women, and certain strains cause virtually all cervical cancers. HPV also has been linked to cancers of the vagina, anus and penis.

The new report is based on 1,913 couples in five countries. All were married or in a stable relationship for at least six months. Half of the women had cervical cancer, and 370 of the men were circumcised. Worldwide, an estimated one in four men are circumcised.

Researchers interviewed all of the men and got samples of penile cells from 1,524. The scientists tested the samples for HPV.

After accounting for such factors as age at first intercourse and lifetime number of sexual partners, circumcised men were only about a third as likely as uncircumcised men to test positive for HPV. The authors speculate that circumcision, which involves removal of the foreskin, minimizes the area of the penis vulnerable to HPV infection.

On the whole, partners of circumcised men were about 25% less likely to have cervical cancer than partners of uncircumcised men, a difference that was not statistically significant. But among women in relationships with men at high risk for HPV, those with circumcised partners were 80% less likely to have cervical cancer.

Co-author Keerti Shah, a virologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore, notes that other research suggests that circumcision also reduces men's risk of infection with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

"This may be something that may be true for many sexually transmitted infections," Shah says.

hope you uncut mofos like your herpes

griffer: CrazyCracka420: Considering it's not useless, or ugly, I would not.

That's like your opinion.

What about ears? The point is, there is no reason to do it.

Other than conformity.

And it damages the sexual function of the penis. This is medical fact.

BUT KEEP ON CUTTING YOUR SINS DICKS BECAUSE YOU HAD YOUR MANGLED!

The foreskin of the father are not tolerated on the son, either, i see.

I don't think any circumcised men have problems cumming. I don't consider it mangled, it looks like your penis when you're hard, except mine doesn't have skin there.

Look, I already conceded there's really no difference at all in how women (even in the US) view penises. There's really no benefit in a modern country, to being circ'ed. I just like the look, and am used to it. I would do the same for my son, because e i like the look of my clean dick. I don't see what the big deal is if you want to leave it, or want to chop it. It's a little flap of skin.

If you want to talk about it desensitizing the penis, I can tell you, I've got a boner about 85% of the day, and I can cum without any problems.

I'm telling you, there's really no difference at all, it's just aesthetic opinion.

hockeyfarker: hope you uncut mofos like your herpes

Oh, please.

karooble: Moist and covered doesn't mean gross and stanky.

Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

Isuldirs: Wow. Over dramatize much?

I consider cutting off the end of my penis more dramatic than altering my ears, so that would be UNDER dramatizing.

// what are you ? ferenghi ?

CrazyCracka420: You're a f*cking moron...

Doing it to a baby is different than having a grown man get circ'ed. Adult male circumcision is hell, you get a boner and you can get the stitches to come out...it's painful, and you have a doc coming at your penis with a knife.

Parents are deciding for their kids whether or not they'll be circ'ed for life. If you circ them, or not, I can tell you they won't get the procedure done later in life (there's no point in doing it, unless it's medical).

Do I need to draw a diagram? If you're uncut as an infant, you can either get cut as an adult or not. If you're cut as an infant, end of the line.

Why would they not see all the obvious benefits of circumcision you're talking about and get it done?

crm114: Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

yea, cuz pulling my foreskin back and washing under it is TOTALLY not fun

// REALLY ? THAT stupid ?

karooble: someahole: Back in college I had a roommate that was uncut. He confessed that he felt that it was definitely a detriment to his sex life. Not only did many US women find it unnerving, but he was also constantly getting yeast infections. At one point he confessed that he and his girlfriend had been passing back and forth the same yeast infection for several months.

As is usual in cases like this, it seems that his problem was not being uncut, but simply poor hygiene (either that or his girl was a damn nasty skank). Seriously, if you're uncut, just wash it. It's really not any bigger of a deal than a woman having to manage her constantly-moist parts. Moist and covered doesn't mean gross and stanky.

Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas, if they do that, it can take away the natural bacteria that keeps them balanced.

CrazyCracka420: it looks like your penis

PAY ATTENTION, DUMMY!

I. am. cut.

I said it before.

CrazyCracka420: aesthetic opinion

I know, van gogh. That's my point. You aren't listening.

Whatever.

griffer: Nope, the mohel put that stripe there for you.

With my luck, my son would get the guy with hiccups.

hockeyfarker:

Considering that there's a vaccine for HPV for women, I don't see that as any logical reason to continue to circumcise males.

Hey man! I was circ'ed at 3 days old and I couln't walk for a farkin' year!!!

Slartibartfaster: crm114: Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

yea, cuz pulling my foreskin back and washing under it is TOTALLY not fun

// REALLY ? THAT stupid ?

REALLY? TAKING THIS THAT SERIOUSLY? CARING ABOUT CIRCUMCISION THAT MUCH? TYPING IN CAPSLOCK THIS MUCH? WHAARGARBL!!!

/calm down Frances, welcome to Fark

WorldKnowledge: Hey man! I was circ'ed at 3 days old and I couln't walk for a farkin' year!!!

LOLLER!

CrazyCracka420: Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas

now take away the quotes around "clean"
or aim higher at the trailer park jamboree next time

crm114: Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

Unmoist and uncovered also means less sensitivity. For the girls: Imagine if you had to hold your outer (and inner, if they're big like that) labia open until everything gets nice and dry. Now try touching your parts and see if you experience nearly as intense a feeling. You won't. It's like having chapped lips or dry hands. This is why we use lube.

griffer: PAY ATTENTION, DUMMY!

I. am. cut.

Well, then it REALLY looks like your penis.

But bigger. :D

IXI Jim IXI: Jubeebee: I remember when I was a kid it could go all the way over the tip, but I'd have to stretch it to get it there now.

Or jump into cold water.

Or that.

karooble: As is usual in cases like this, it seems that his problem was not being uncut, but simply poor hygiene (either that or his girl was a damn nasty skank). Seriously, if you're uncut, just wash it. It's really not any bigger of a deal than a woman having to manage her constantly-moist parts. Moist and covered doesn't mean gross and stanky.

Note that as a teenager, the required cleaning often leads to other regularly scheduled maintenance and complaints about the water bill from parents.

crm114: TAKING THIS THAT SERIOUSLY?

YES!

crm114: TYPING IN CAPSLOCK THIS MUCH

When used in combination with other caps levels, its considered a way to emphasize words (much like bolding stuff)

Typing the whole sentence in caps however.... not so much.

Edd17: CrazyCracka420: You're a f*cking moron...

Doing it to a baby is different than having a grown man get circ'ed. Adult male circumcision is hell, you get a boner and you can get the stitches to come out...it's painful, and you have a doc coming at your penis with a knife.

Parents are deciding for their kids whether or not they'll be circ'ed for life. If you circ them, or not, I can tell you they won't get the procedure done later in life (there's no point in doing it, unless it's medical).

Do I need to draw a diagram? If you're uncut as an infant, you can either get cut as an adult or not. If you're cut as an infant, end of the line.

Why would they not see all the obvious benefits of circumcision you're talking about and get it done?

God, you're f*cking dense. I didn't say there were benefits of being circ'ed, now did I? Do I need to draw you a diagram? No adult male in their right mind would get circ'ed. Who would make a conscious choice to let a doc come at their penis with a knife? The post-op is horrible and complicated...of course they're not going to go through circumcision as an adult...

So now that I've explained that getting circ'ed as an adult, is really a non-sequitar, would you care to draw that diagram for me?

If you circ your kid, he's circ'ed for life, if you don't, he's gonna be uncirc'ed for life (unless it's medically necessary). I've already explained why. If you disagree, you're either not an adult male with a penis, or you really believe there are advantages to being circ'ed (which there are not, besides aesthetic reasons).

Look, if my son is going to have any kind of pecker surgery that early in his life, I'd rather he had it enlarged.

zoips: Considering that there's a vaccine for HPV for women, I don't see that as any logical reason to continue to circumcise males.

When I said "hope you uncut mofos like your herpes" what part made you think I was referring to women?

hockeyfarker: After accounting for such factors as age at first intercourse and lifetime number of sexual partners, circumcised men were only about a third as likely as uncircumcised men to test positive for HPV.

Slartibartfaster: I consider cutting off the end of my penis more dramatic than altering my ears, so that would be UNDER dramatizing.

Well I know that MANY (if not most) of my pals are cut, yet I know NO ONE who has cut their ear lobs off.

what are you ? ferenghi ?



HOW DID YOU KNOW?!

/Lets agree to disagree and enjoy our weekend.

CrazyCracka420: Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas, if they do that, it can take away the natural bacteria that keeps them balanced.

Soap's stupid, and douching is ridiculously idiotic, but a rinse (of the outer/inner labia, not the vaginal canal itself) with plain water in the shower doesn't hurt anything. And if a woman is stanky, it's a useful step (though she should really seek out antibiotics if she's that rank).

Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas

now take away the quotes around "clean"
or aim higher at the trailer park jamboree next time

I don't get it...I used the word "clean" because they do maintenance down there, I just haven't met any who actually clean it in the shower.

crm114: It wasn't the disagreement that was a troll, it was bringing up the Catholic priesthood abuse when it had nothing to do with the subject at hand. Those cases involve alter boys and such who, quite obviously, can remember the abuse and thus talk about it. I don't know one person who was circumcised as a baby and remembers the pain or trauma, and to equate circumcision with sexual abuse is pretty damn retarded in terms of long term effects and the motivation behind them.

/damn you for making me be serious in a thread that's this much fun...for God's sake I got to type the phrase "take a tequila shot out of your penis" earlier

Oh, lighten up. I was referencing repressed memories against the silly argument that if you don't remember something, it doesn't count. As for it being sexual abuse, it's ritualistic/cosmetic genital mutilation of a baby. I'd say that's sexual abuse.

Jubeebee: Note that as a teenager, the required cleaning often leads to other regularly scheduled maintenance and complaints about the water bill from parents

if it takes you that long, that is called "masturbating" not "cleaning"

karooble: crm114: Yet unmoist and uncovered = less maintenance, with the 30 seconds uncut guys spend cleaning it in the shower I can...well...clean it in a more fun way

Unmoist and uncovered also means less sensitivity. For the girls: Imagine if you had to hold your outer (and inner, if they're big like that) labia open until everything gets nice and dry. Now try touching your parts and see if you experience nearly as intense a feeling. You won't. It's like having chapped lips or dry hands. This is why we use lube.

Never had any problem with sensitivity, chafing or any feeling resembling what you described, of course I've always been cut but I have to say...I think you're doing it wrong

/fap,fap,fap

karooble: Soap's stupid, and douching is ridiculously idiotic,

Draino is probably not such a good idea either...

CrazyCracka420: I don't get it...I used the word "clean" because they do maintenance down there

That reminds me. When my wife is in having our son, I'm going to ask them to change her oil...

CrazyCracka420: I just haven't met any who actually clean it in the shower

now THAT's a fun task to share with her ;-)

But I must have different luck to you, ... I have never met one that does not clean it in the shower.

I love these circ threads. The wharrrgarrrble is always epic. Carry on.

IXI Jim IXI: CrazyCracka420: I don't get it...I used the word "clean" because they do maintenance down there

That reminds me. When my wife is in having our son, I'm going to ask them to change her oil...

They might have a newer model you could test drive

CrazyCracka420: How is that bad logic? I don't think any adult male in their right mind would get circumcised, and that's including those like myself, who are circ'ed already (if we were to pretend we weren't). If that's the case (which I guarantee it is), then how is it giving your baby a choice to leave them uncircumcised? They aren't going to go out and get circ'ed, because (as I already said, and I think any male would agree), a dude's not gonna go out and let a doc come at his penis with a knife. The post-op is horrible for circumcision, the only way someone would do it as an adult, is for medical reasons.

You can argue all you want about whether or not to circ your baby, but don't give me the copout that "you're giving them a choice", that's bullsh*t, and anyone in their right mind knows it.

Your argument is that, because one of the options is so unattractive that nobody would choose it, not forcing that option on a child, and allowing that child to make the decision for themselves, is not a choice.

You could use that argument about any possible choice where one option is obviously unattractive.

Smarshmallow: Oh, lighten up. I was referencing repressed memories against the silly argument that if you don't remember something, it doesn't count. As for it being sexual abuse, it's ritualistic/cosmetic genital mutilation of a baby. I'd say that's sexual abuse.

YOU lighten up!

IXI Jim IXI: karooble: Soap's stupid, and douching is ridiculously idiotic,

Draino is probably not such a good idea either...

You shouldn't use chemicals on such a sensitive area at all. If it's got that old tuna smell, just rinse it out with a firehose

Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: I just haven't met any who actually clean it in the shower

now THAT's a fun task to share with her ;-)

But I must have different luck to you, ... I have never met one that does not clean it in the shower.

Well not inside their vaginal wall, but like karooble said, they still clean their lips and on the outside.

CrazyCracka420: They might have a newer model you could test drive

"The rear end is out of alignment. Anything you can do for that?"

Slartibartfaster: if it takes you that long, that is called "masturbating" not "cleaning"

Goddamnit he's cracked my code.

CrazyCracka420: How is cutting off some excess skin a big deal?

There is no 'excess' when it comes to biology and nature itself.

People always thought the appendix was useless, and removed it without a second thought, until a few years ago we discover it has a purpose and we were arrogant morons all those years.

Go ahead and mutilate your body all you want, though, it's up to you what you do with yours, but just don't go making that decision for those who can't speak for themselves.

Slartibartfaster: Jubeebee: Note that as a teenager, the required cleaning often leads to other regularly scheduled maintenance and complaints about the water bill from parents

if it takes you that long, that is called "masturbating" not "cleaning"

Not if you're using soap as a lube. You're just being thorough.

hockeyfarker: You shouldn't use chemicals on such a sensitive area at all. If it's got that old tuna smell, just rinse it out with a firehose

THERE'S a 911 call I hope someone will get on mp3.

"Her ovaries shot right out the window! Send help NOW!"

CrazyCracka420: Well I don't know any women who "clean" their vaginas, if they do that, it can take away the natural bacteria that keeps them balanced.

um....

CrazyCracka420: foo monkey: CrazyCracka420: That being said, if you're not circ'ed, who cares, I wouldn't ever go out and get circ'ed if my parents didn't do me the favor when I was a little baby.
.

They didn't do you a favor.

They did, because I like the look, and there's no wind resistance, so easier to pound away ;)

That being said, did you read the rest of my post? It really doesn't matter one way or the other, but I have a preference for the clean look.

Agreed.

I like being cut. I love how my cock looks and I have great sex, so there's no problem as far as I'm concerned.

Would I do it to my son if I had one? Answer: I don't want kids.

/kinda wish my gf could do shots out of my skin, but I think I'll survive.

CrazyCracka420: they still clean their lips and on the outside.

She takes about as long cleaning hers as I do mine (respectively different bits)

// Glad Im not a member of a primitive desert culture so petrified of a sky ghost Ill dismember my children

J. Frank Parnell: There is no 'excess' when it comes to biology and nature itself.

I dunno...I think we could do well with a bit less cancer...

Smarshmallow: CrazyCracka420: How is that bad logic? I don't think any adult male in their right mind would get circumcised, and that's including those like myself, who are circ'ed already (if we were to pretend we weren't). If that's the case (which I guarantee it is), then how is it giving your baby a choice to leave them uncircumcised? They aren't going to go out and get circ'ed, because (as I already said, and I think any male would agree), a dude's not gonna go out and let a doc come at his penis with a knife. The post-op is horrible for circumcision, the only way someone would do it as an adult, is for medical reasons.

You can argue all you want about whether or not to circ your baby, but don't give me the copout that "you're giving them a choice", that's bullsh*t, and anyone in their right mind knows it.

Your argument is that, because one of the options is so unattractive that nobody would choose it, not forcing that option on a child, and allowing that child to make the decision for themselves, is not a choice.

You could use that argument about any possible choice where one option is obviously unattractive.

The difference, is that it's not unattractive when you're a child, because you don't know any better, and the post op is a cakewalk compared to if you had it done as an adult. That's the difference here, is the difference between having it done as an adult, and as a child. It's a non-sequitar to suggest someone has a choice to get circ'ed as an adult. If they were circ'ed already, they have no choice, and if they weren't, they basically have no choice to get circ'ed (because the risk outweights the benefits...when having it done as an adult, not as a child).

wyrlss: This thread is worth less without pricks.

FTFY

J. Frank Parnell: CrazyCracka420: How is cutting off some excess skin a big deal?

There is no 'excess' when it comes to biology and nature itself.

People always thought the appendix was useless, and removed it without a second thought, until a few years ago we discover it has a purpose and we were arrogant morons all those years.

Go ahead and mutilate your body all you want, though, it's up to you what you do with yours, but just don't go making that decision for those who can't speak for themselves.

If you don't do it as a baby, they won't have it done as adults. So if you leave your baby uncirc'ed, you're making a decision for those who can't speak for themselves. Don't kid yourself.

flyurchin: /kinda wish my gf could do shots out of my skin, but I think I'll survive.

You could always gouge out an eye...

flyurchin: kinda wish my gf could do shots out of my skin, but I think I'll survive

be back soon, I gotta go get some tequila :-)

hockeyfarker: zoips: Considering that there's a vaccine for HPV for women, I don't see that as any logical reason to continue to circumcise males.

When I said "hope you uncut mofos like your herpes" what part made you think I was referring to women?

hockeyfarker: After accounting for such factors as age at first intercourse and lifetime number of sexual partners, circumcised men were only about a third as likely as uncircumcised men to test positive for HPV.

Err, because I misread it as a study more concerned with the incidence of cervical cancer in women.

Though, as a post-fact justification, seems that if all women are vaccinated for HPV, then an uncut male is less likely to have a partner to be infected with the virus by.

While we're talking about cleaning up down there, I'm going to trim before I go out tonight. Normally I use the 1/2" guard, but I'm thinking about going down to 1/4". Farkette (or fabulous Farker) thoughts?

/this thread reminds me of TFD

And what does the appendix do? I know people who had appendicitis and had theirs removed, should I tell them to panic?

I'm telling you guys, for a baby, it's no sweat to have them circ'ed. I'm also telling you, no adult would have the procedure done, unless absolutely necessary.

I'm further telling you, there's really no difference between the two besides aesthetics (if you take regular showers, and if you don't you have bigger problems than your penis).

I don't see what's w/ all the back and forth on the issue...it's all pretty common sense.

Slartibartfaster
(do uncut guys not realize that it unfurls itself when required ?!?, like the well made tool it is)

No, they don't.

Which is also why they reveal their ignorance anytime they argue for chopping because of appearance. They don't even realize that foreskins can be pulled back to reveal a penis that looks just like a "normal" one (but with a wrinkle instead of a scar).

Arguing from ignorance is ignorant.

J. Frank Parnell: People always thought the appendix was useless, and removed it without a second thought, until a few years ago we discover it has a purpose and we were arrogant morons all those years.

Yeah, but it totally sucks when the end of your penis gets infected and swollen and almost kills you

CrazyCracka420: So if you leave your baby uncirc'ed, you're making a decision for those who can't speak for themselves

logic ?

heard of it ?

Thats like saying.... I made a decision for my child by NOT taking him to church.
Sure, most kids that are not brainwashed early, dont do it as an adult... but they CAN.

CrazyCracka420: or you really believe there are advantages to being circ'ed (which there are not, besides aesthetic reasons).

Golly! You think so? Yet here you are saying that you'd have it done to others.

Jubeebee: While we're talking about cleaning up down there, I'm going to trim before I go out tonight. Normally I use the 1/2" guard, but I'm thinking about going down to 1/4". Farkette (or fabulous Farker) thoughts?

Trimming's a good idea, but if you trim down to 1/4", it's going to look stubbly instead of tidy -- like you shaved it completely a couple weeks ago and you're just letting it grow back in. I'd stick with the 1/2".

Jubeebee: Farkette (or fabulous Farker) thoughts?

Don't try it with a straight razor during an allergy attack?

CrazyCracka420: J. Frank Parnell: CrazyCracka420: How is cutting off some excess skin a big deal?

There is no 'excess' when it comes to biology and nature itself.

People always thought the appendix was useless, and removed it without a second thought, until a few years ago we discover it has a purpose and we were arrogant morons all those years.

Go ahead and mutilate your body all you want, though, it's up to you what you do with yours, but just don't go making that decision for those who can't speak for themselves.

If you don't do it as a baby, they won't have it done as adults. So if you leave your baby uncirc'ed, you're making a decision for those who can't speak for themselves. Don't kid yourself.

Pardon me, but the argument that we do it to babies specifically because it's an absolutely horrific procedure with no medical benefit and a lot of risk when done to an adult seems really absurd.

If there's no medical benefit, and nobody would ever choose to do it to themselves, why are we doing it at all?

CrazyCracka420: no adult would have the procedure done, unless absolutely necessary

and you dont see the conclusion there ?
If an adult gets the choice, they almost never do it, "unless absolutely necessary"

gee, I wonder if there is a reason for that.

(and your thoughts on how its ok if you do it early enough so they wont remember, is why a lot of men are in jail... away from the general population... for their own safety)

Jubeebee: While we're talking about cleaning up down there, I'm going to trim before I go out tonight. Normally I use the 1/2" guard, but I'm thinking about going down to 1/4". Farkette (or fabulous Farker) thoughts?

/this thread reminds me of TFD

I'm not fabulous, but I'll give you my advice: shave the frank and beans (beans are optional, but I like getting my balls sucked). I shave around the base a little, and then just use a short trimmer for the rest...how much you trim is up to you, but I'd say 1/4" would be good.

Shaving with Bacitracin, or some other antibiotic ointments are preferred as it doesn't leave as many nicks and gouges, and isn't as irritated when you're done. Just make sure you wash it off very well with warm water, because antibiotics on the penis can cause yeast infections.

GoatEwHelenWate: If there's no medical benefit, and nobody would ever choose to do it to themselves, why are we doing it at all?

Sky wizard + tradition + societal taboos.

Cybernetic: Englebert Slaptyback: NightOwl2255

Damn I love a good Thesaurus smack down!


For good or ill, the thesaurus remained undisturbed throughout the composition of that missive.

Your ebullient use of polysyllabics does engender approbation.

/Also without a thesaurus.

I'm against people who give vent to their loquacity by extraneous bombastic circumlocution.

/Oh, I don't like that.

Cut off the whole penis, including the testes. That'll stop those f'uckers!

IXI Jim IXI: J. Frank Parnell: There is no 'excess' when it comes to biology and nature itself.

I dunno...I think we could do well with a bit less cancer...

That's a genetic mutation brought on by exposure to radiation and whatnot. It's not really included in the main blueprint for each living thing.

I'm speaking strictly about how living things are created, all bets are off when they start wandering around getting dosed with toxins and radiation.

You know, if you're cut, your GF can't play games like Dune, or peel the banana, or find the gum.
You're missing out.

karooble: Jubeebee: While we're talking about cleaning up down there, I'm going to trim before I go out tonight. Normally I use the 1/2" guard, but I'm thinking about going down to 1/4". Farkette (or fabulous Farker) thoughts?

Trimming's a good idea, but if you trim down to 1/4", it's going to look stubbly instead of tidy -- like you shaved it completely a couple weeks ago and you're just letting it grow back in. I'd stick with the 1/2".

Personally I'd do the 1/4". At 1/2" it's still pretty bushy and hairs end up in the mouth/throat when giving the oral. Trimming down to 1/4" will keep everything neat and tidy, and hey if you feel like going completely bare on the balls that works too. I'm willing to suck on hairless balls, but not hairy ones for the aforementioned hair-throat reason.

What a weird argument.
Sounds like for 90% of the population, no one (man or woman) cares if someone is cut or uncut. The bulk of the arguments for doing it appear to be appeal to tradition. IE: I got it done, I'll have it done to my kids. I guess that's a valid point, but it creeps me the hell out.

/My husband is cut, my son is uncut. No issues so far
//Although my son does keep asking me where my penis is

CrazyCracka420: antibiotics on the penis can cause yeast infections.

I did not know that. weird, wacky stuff.

official wtf thread of the day

How about you stop bum-farking chimps, and then you won't get teh AIDS?

Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: So if you leave your baby uncirc'ed, you're making a decision for those who can't speak for themselves

logic ?

heard of it ?

Thats like saying.... I made a decision for my child by NOT taking him to church.
Sure, most kids that are not brainwashed early, dont do it as an adult... but they CAN.

Yes, I've heard of logic. I understand what you're trying to say, I'm just saying it's a non-sequitar (i.e. the two sides you're presenting aren't actually how it works in the real world). I'm telling you, that I'm circ'ed and like that I am, however if I wasn't, there's no f*cking way I would let a doc come near my penis with a knife, unless medically necessary.

So to say it's a choice, is not being truthful, it's facetious. The reason? For the 8th time: the consequences and aftermath of circing a baby, is not the same as circing an adult.

karooble: GoatEwHelenWate: If there's no medical benefit, and nobody would ever choose to do it to themselves, why are we doing it at all?

Sky wizard + tradition + societal taboos.

I was kind of hoping for some good reasons...but I see there are none.

Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: kinda wish my gf could do shots out of my skin, but I think I'll survive

be back soon, I gotta go get some tequila :-)

You gonna teach me a new trick?

IXI Jim IXI: flyurchin: /kinda wish my gf could do shots out of my skin, but I think I'll survive.

You could always gouge out an eye...

Heads up thinking, Jim!

Pinner: You know, if you're cut, your GF can't play games like Dune, or peel the banana, or find the gum.

Pop the Doritos bag: You blow it up, keep it pinched closed with your lips to hold the air in, and then gently tap both sides with your hands, as if popping a bag of chips. It's not erotic at all, but it's funny as hell as long as your partner's got a good sense of humor, especially if they're not expecting it.

J. Frank Parnell: That's a genetic mutation brought on by exposure to radiation and whatnot.

Sorry, man. Cancer is nature, in all its glory.

hockeyfarker: CrazyCracka420: antibiotics on the penis can cause yeast infections.

I did not know that. weird, wacky stuff.

on the other hand I've never had any "gouges" on my personal area

GoatEwHelenWate: CrazyCracka420: J. Frank Parnell: CrazyCracka420: How is cutting off some excess skin a big deal?

There is no 'excess' when it comes to biology and nature itself.

People always thought the appendix was useless, and removed it without a second thought, until a few years ago we discover it has a purpose and we were arrogant morons all those years.

Go ahead and mutilate your body all you want, though, it's up to you what you do with yours, but just don't go making that decision for those who can't speak for themselves.

If you don't do it as a baby, they won't have it done as adults. So if you leave your baby uncirc'ed, you're making a decision for those who can't speak for themselves. Don't kid yourself.

Pardon me, but the argument that we do it to babies specifically because it's an absolutely horrific procedure with no medical benefit and a lot of risk when done to an adult seems really absurd.

If there's no medical benefit, and nobody would ever choose to do it to themselves, why are we doing it at all?

Because there's less wind resistance, I get more efficiency from my circ'ed penis...

I honestly don't know, other than like the guy above me said, societal norms/taboos, and possibly (but probably very small %) because of religious reasons.

The only reason I'd do it to my son, is because some women (probably a very small %) are grossed out by an uncirc'ed penis (and again, who gives a f*ck, he could find another woman), and because it's what I'm used to.

I really don't have a good answer, and I don't think it matters either way if you decide to do it or not.

CrazyCracka420: So to say it's a choice, is not being truthful, it's facetious. The reason? For the 8th time: the consequences and aftermath of circing a baby, is not the same as circing an adult.

Sure

but at that point its THEIR CHOICE

You were proposing that NOT doing it, takes away their choice.
They ONLY have a choice if you dont do it (see how that works yet ?)

At that point, most choose not to do it. (probably because its a painful, unnecessary, genital mutilation... and what sane person would volunteer for that).

Circumcising your kid, removes that choice.
If as an adult, you would be reluctant to do it, because of the pain, or the shear idiocy of it... why would you want it done to your defenseless baby boy ?!?

Jubeebee: While we're talking about cleaning up down there, I'm going to trim before I go out tonight. Normally I use the 1/2" guard, but I'm thinking about going down to 1/4". Farkette (or fabulous Farker) thoughts?

/this thread reminds me of TFD

My method: Shaft and balls shave with mach 3 in the shower, trim surrounding brush with scissors. I have thick hair in general, so clippers like to, um, not work very well.

This thread is bananas. B. A. N. A. N. A. S.

karooble: It's not erotic at all, but it's funny as hell as long as your partner's got a good sense of humor,

Just as long as you don't have a gas attack...

MemeSlave: How about you stop bum-farking chimps, and then you won't get teh AIDS?


Is it still ok for Michael Jackson to blow Bubbles?

Hmm. You know, in the last circumcision thread, I was firmly against it, stating that the pretense of maybe lowering the transmission of one STD out of many isn't a good enough reason to circumcise. I was rebuffed by people who thought that I was an idiot for wanting a better reason. Now it turns out that reason is full of holes too.

So, can we fade circumcision out now and just pass out condoms, or what?

/let's be honest, dicks look silly with or without a sweater
//and I wouldn't be dating you for the appearance of said dick in the first place

hockeyfarker: hockeyfarker: CrazyCracka420: antibiotics on the penis can cause yeast infections.

I did not know that. weird, wacky stuff.

on the other hand I've never had any "gouges" on my personal area

Well I mean like nicks (not gouges) from shaving. Sometimes I'll cut myself, but generally the nicks are from irritations. Bacitracin, or a similar topical antibiotic are great when you're shaving down there. But antibiotics kill the normal bacteria down there, and will cause a yeast infection, so I would make sure you wash it off real good.

hockeyfarker:
I think I speak for all men when I curl into the fetal position and rock back and forth after reading that

Hey, guess what ... if they weren't ragging on you for that they'd be ragging on you for something else - for being Irish or whatever (they probably did that as well, right?)

That's school.

There are some guys out there who have been mutilated in this manner and who are still unable to feel normal sexual pleasures(oral or penetration). This causes an unbelievable amount of stress and frustration because they don't feel normal and can't reach the goal of orgasm without an unnatural amount of stimulation. Keeping stiff without adequate stimulation is impossible also. Relationships are severely affected because women think they aren't stimulating their mates enough. Most kind women would at first say it isn't a problem, but in the end it always becomes a problem when their lust has disappeared and they expect what cannot be provided. Relationships always fail, life goes on, but never getting any closer to any sexual goals or experiences that most men have attained way back in their teens.

/I can haz my 50 thousand sensitive sexual nerve endings back... please? Just need to feel a pussy make me cum at least once so I can die happy - Is that too much to ask???
//Sexuality is a gift that religion likes to destroy
/// circumcision is not worth it, especially to the few who experience issues like infection and have their sexuality utterly destroyed.

Slartibartfaster: Circumcising your kid, removes that choice.
If as an adult, you would be reluctant to do it, because of the pain, or the shear idiocy of it... why would you want it done to your defenseless baby boy ?!?

Well, that's why I'm glad my parents made that choice, otherwise I wouldn't have.

CrazyCracka420: Because there's less wind resistance

exactly how do you measure that ? stand next to another guy in a wind tunnel ?
Or did you have the operation recently.

Btw, have you ever heard anyone with a foreskin describe resistance ?!? The foreskin decreases friction (if you want it to)... and for added sensitivity sometimes I pull it back and go for it. See I have BOTH modes ;-)

Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: So to say it's a choice, is not being truthful, it's facetious. The reason? For the 8th time: the consequences and aftermath of circing a baby, is not the same as circing an adult.

Sure

but at that point its THEIR CHOICE

This argument is like farking a 13 year old. You're both trying to force your idea on the other person, but it's not going to work.

flyurchin: Well, that's why I'm glad my parents made that choice, otherwise I wouldn't have

Thats warped dude

You are glad your parents did something to you... because if you had the choice you would not have done it....

mmmm kay

Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: So to say it's a choice, is not being truthful, it's facetious. The reason? For the 8th time: the consequences and aftermath of circing a baby, is not the same as circing an adult.

Sure

but at that point its THEIR CHOICE

You were proposing that NOT doing it, takes away their choice.
They ONLY have a choice if you dont do it (see how that works yet ?)

I already told you, I see how that works...you act like I'm retarded...I'm saying I disagree it's a choice, it's an option sure, but a choice? No, because nobody would choose that.

At that point, most choose not to do it. (probably because its a painful, unnecessary, genital mutilation... and what sane person would volunteer for that).

Circumcising your kid, removes that choice.
If as an adult, you would be reluctant to do it, because of the pain, or the shear idiocy of it... why would you want it done to your defenseless baby boy ?!?

Same reason you'd declaw a cat when it was little, because it's not going to hurt them, the post-op isn't as bad when they're little (they're not popping boners every 15 minutes), and they won't remember a thing.

I'd only do it to my baby for aesthetic reasons, it's 2009, they can clip some excess skin off, and sew it up, no problem.

GomezAdams: Circumcision. I'm against genital mutilation and just because the Jewish and Muslim Guy in the Sky says to don't make it right.

How about when Dr. Kellogg says it? - 'cos he's the one who started the whole circumcision movement in the USA.

(Yes, the same guy who invented cornflakes...)

So far the votes are:
1 - 1/2"
1 - 1/4"
1 - shaved
1 - avoid alleys and straight razors

Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

IXI Jim IXI: J. Frank Parnell: That's a genetic mutation brought on by exposure to radiation and whatnot.

Sorry, man. Cancer is nature, in all its glory.

Well everything could be called nature in the broadest sense of the term. Even the electricity running your computer isn't really man made, it's just man harnessing an aspect of nature.

Joce678: hockeyfarker:
I think I speak for all men when I curl into the fetal position and rock back and forth after reading that

Hey, guess what ... if they weren't ragging on you for that they'd be ragging on you for something else - for being Irish or whatever (they probably did that as well, right?)

That's school.

hello, Joce678. not only is this reply extremely late, you've also apparently translated my original post into Klingon and then back.

/and don't call me Irish

CrazyCracka420: because it's not going to hurt them

yea, thats why the totally dont cry when you do it

my cock is a towering, cut, veiny thing of beauty

Jubeebee: So far the votes are:
1 - 1/2"
1 - 1/4"
1 - shaved
1 - avoid alleys and straight razors

Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

There's a vote? Then I vote 1/4, and only wish you could mention it in an aside to my SO that it would be really worth doing.

/yes, I have dropped hints
//no, it's not that big of a deal

That headline just writes itself.

GoatEwHelenWate: karooble: GoatEwHelenWate: If there's no medical benefit, and nobody would ever choose to do it to themselves, why are we doing it at all?

Sky wizard + tradition + societal taboos.

I was kind of hoping for some good reasons...but I see there are none.

Nope, there really aren't any "good" reasons. Other than aesthetics, and it's not an issue to have it done to a baby.

Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: because it's not going to hurt them

yea, thats why the totally dont cry when you do it

In his defense, babies cry just for the fark of it as far as I can tell. Also in his defense, he was not only circumcised but also dropped on his head.

Jubeebee: So far the votes are:
1 - 1/2"
1 - 1/4"
1 - shaved
1 - avoid alleys and straight razors

Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

I just like my men hairy, I guess. Not un-manscaped -- well-groomed -- but I prefer some bush down there. In my experience, a bit of hair doesn't interfere too much with oral sex; even a bit of ball-hair isn't really an issue for oral, as long as your dude isn't a Sasquatch.

Jubeebee: So far the votes are:
1 - 1/2"
1 - 1/4"
1 - shaved
1 - avoid alleys and straight razors

Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

Nope, 2 for 1/4". 1/2" is too long. Also, shave the frank and beans, and you'll be golden.

That being said, if you get your pants down with a female, it's not really gonna matter, but as a courtesy you should keep it trimmed.

Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Well, that's why I'm glad my parents made that choice, otherwise I wouldn't have

Thats warped dude

You are glad your parents did something to you... because if you had the choice you would not have done it....

mmmm kay

Isn't that how some things in life work?

Sometimes we like something or learn something by having something done to us or a choice made for us that we would have rather not have done to us at the time or would not have done otherwise.

So, though I would not have chosen to be cut if I hadn't been, I'm glad I was, because I truly like my cock this way right now. Of course, I can only say that not knowing what it is like to be uncut, which I accept and am fine with. Basically, most men don't have a choice on the matter and don't know otherwise.

Once my father in law volunteered to change his grandson's diaper. He returned white as a ghost asking why we never told him about the birth defect. My wife asked what he was talking about. He mentioned the penis that was not completely formed. I could not laugh realizing that my American father in law must never have seen one in its natural state.

wyrlss: Slartibartfaster: CrazyCracka420: because it's not going to hurt them

yea, thats why the totally dont cry when you do it

In his defense, babies cry just for the fark of it as far as I can tell. Also in his defense, he was not only circumcised but also dropped on his head.

Why, because I'm being honest, I was dropped on my head? Mmmmkay...it should be pretty obvious to see which comments I was messing around with (streamlined/less wind resistance), and which ones I was serious with (the part about no rational adult choosing to get circ'ed, so it's not really a choice).

But in your defense, you're lazy.

CrazyCracka420: Same reason you'd declaw a cat

again: please stay the hell away from my cat

CrazyCracka420: Jubeebee: So far the votes are:
1 - 1/2"
1 - 1/4"
1 - shaved
1 - avoid alleys and straight razors

Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

Nope, 2 for 1/4". 1/2" is too long. Also, shave the frank and beans, and you'll be golden.

That being said, if you get your pants down with a female, it's not really gonna matter, but as a courtesy you should keep it trimmed.

That'd be 3 for 1/4" and I also suggested the hairless balls for nut-sucking purposes.

J. Frank Parnell: Well everything could be called nature in the broadest sense of the term. Even the electricity running your computer isn't really man made, it's just man harnessing an aspect of nature.

Yes, but cancer is a natural event (at least some instances of it). So saying that there's never any excess in nature or biology is just silly.

I'm sure there were five-limbed frogs appearing here and there long before Mr. Burns set up his reactor.

Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Well, that's why I'm glad my parents made that choice, otherwise I wouldn't have

Thats warped dude

You are glad your parents did something to you... because if you had the choice you would not have done it....

mmmm kay

If I could have made the choice as a baby to be circ'ed, I would. I wouldn't as an adult...do you not understand the difference?

xenomorpheus: There are some guys out there who have been mutilated in this manner and who are still unable to feel normal sexual pleasures(oral or penetration). This causes an unbelievable amount of stress and frustration because they don't feel normal and can't reach the goal of orgasm without an unnatural amount of stimulation. Keeping stiff without adequate stimulation is impossible also. Relationships are severely affected because women think they aren't stimulating their mates enough. Most kind women would at first say it isn't a problem, but in the end it always becomes a problem when their lust has disappeared and they expect what cannot be provided. Relationships always fail, life goes on, but never getting any closer to any sexual goals or experiences that most men have attained way back in their teens.

Or they're doing it wrong and have found an easy scapegoat...

flyurchin: Of course, I can only say that not knowing what it is like to be uncut

so ... you have no valid basis of comparison and all proposed comparisons (without external citation) should be considered invalid... right ?

I can go from bare head, to covered head, in under a second (over a reasonably extended period)

// quite enjoy doing that

forresttriax: Once my father in law volunteered to change his grandson's diaper. He returned white as a ghost asking why we never told him about the birth defect. My wife asked what he was talking about. He mentioned the penis that was not completely formed. I could not laugh realizing that my American father in law must never have seen one in its natural state.

Most straight American men are uninterested in other men's cocks.

Most gay American men are interested in other men's cocks.

It's odd how many of you are interested in other men's cocks.

CrazyCracka420: If I could have made the choice as a baby to be circ'ed, I would. I wouldn't as an adult...do you not understand the difference?

Exactly, and I'm glad my parents made that choice.

wyrlss: Oh-Boy: crm114: Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?

No, it doesn't. This idea makes no sense. It's like saying that the goggles get int he way of a skier, or the steering wheel is in the way of a cab driver.

I'm confused and troubled by your analogies.

He's saying your penis needs the foreskin for visual and navigational capabilities, obviously.

kevinshields: He's saying your penis needs the foreskin for visual and navigational capabilities, obviously.

It's a GPeniS

CrazyCracka420: Same reason you'd declaw a cat when it was little

What, because you're a farking asshole that wants a cat that's going to have problems with it's paws for the rest of its life?

Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Of course, I can only say that not knowing what it is like to be uncut

so ... you have no valid basis of comparison and all proposed comparisons (without external citation) should be considered invalid... right ?

I can go from bare head, to covered head, in under a second (over a reasonably extended period)

// quite enjoy doing that

Yes and no.

There are comparisons that can be made - that's what most of this thread seems to be about - but there is no comparison of personal experience, because none of us have grown up and learned what it's like to have or not have our foreskin if we don't already not have or have one respectively.

Personally though, I'm really happy with my wholesome cut cock and I'm glad my parents made that choice that I couldn't and wouldn't have if I weren't cut now.

Having a cock is great - and I'm happy that mine is cut. I love how it looks and how it works. I see some of the benefits to having a foreskin, but I can't indulge and I just wouldn't care to.

kevinshields: wyrlss: Oh-Boy: crm114: Gwendolyn: Uh the son isn't cut and he pees standing up just fine without having to yank it back. He's four though so it may change.

Again, I don't know the mechanics of the situation but I can't help but think that the skin would occasionally get in the way?

No, it doesn't. This idea makes no sense. It's like saying that the goggles get int he way of a skier, or the steering wheel is in the way of a cab driver.

I'm confused and troubled by your analogies.

He's saying your penis needs the foreskin for visual and navigational capabilities, obviously.

I lol'ed

A penis, is a penis, is a penis. I think most of us can agree there's no difference functionally, or in attracting a mate. NO adult in their right mind would have it done, and if you prefer a circ'ed penis, and want your kid to have it, do it when they're a baby.

Jubeebee: Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

Shave it. Might as well. Let us know how it went.

kevinshields: He's saying your penis needs the foreskin for visual and navigational capabilities, obviously.

IXI Jim IXI: Yes, but cancer is a natural event (at least some instances of it). So saying that there's never any excess in nature or biology is just silly.

Yeah, there's cancer cells in us all right now. All they are are cells with a bad DNA blueprint. Luckily our bodies have measures to track down and destroy irregular cells our body creates. As for what causes a dramatic rise in DNA mutations, well, radiation and toxins are natural too, in the broadest sense of the term.

flyurchin: Having a cock is great - and I'm happy that mine is cut. I love how it looks and how it works. I see some of the benefits to having a foreskin, but I can't indulge and I just wouldn't care to.

Translation -

I love my penis and I'll pretend I'll convince myself that this way is the best because any other conclusion would mean I'm less of a man and my ego can't take that.

Gothnet: CrazyCracka420: Same reason you'd declaw a cat when it was little

What, because you're a farking asshole that wants a cat that's going to have problems with it's paws for the rest of its life?

I had 2 cats growing up, and my parents refused to declaw them (and I wouldn't do it to my cat either that I'm planning on getting in a few months). Removing claws is a lot more damaging (long and short term) than clipping skin off a penis. I just thought it was a decent analogy, but I guess it really isn't. I think the only reason it could apply, is how the cat won't be traumatized if you do it when it's little, and same with the baby. But who knows...maybe that's why I'm so f*cked up.

flyurchin: wholesome cut

some... sure
whole ? not so much

Gothnet: CrazyCracka420: Same reason you'd declaw a cat when it was little

What, because you're a farking asshole that wants a cat that's going to have problems with it's paws for the rest of its life?

I don't have any problems with my cut peener, none of the guys with uncut peeners seem to have any problem. Apparently, you've had both and can thus say that there are problems with a cut one.

Gothnet: I'm less of a man

well to be fair
or not so much

he IS less of a man - someone lopped part of the man bit off
(hope it was not one of those freaky rabbis that clean off with their mouth)

finnished: Jubeebee: Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

Shave it. Might as well. Let us know how it went.

Are we discussing shaving teh hairs?

Totally do it. Nothing like smooth, clean cut balls and cock. I do my legs too. Big bonus if you're nice and tone, everything down there looks delectable.

CrazyCracka420: That being said, if you get your pants down with a female, it's not really gonna matter, but as a courtesy you should keep it trimmed.

Agreed. It's just polite. Like holding the door open.

Looks like I'm trimming down to 1/4" when I get home.

crm114:

Or they're doing it wrong and have found an easy scapegoat...

An easy thing to say from your chair, but I'm sure most in this particular situation would have gone to many, many sex therapists and doctors to work things out and find out viable options besides injections or reconstructive surgery.

crm114: I don't have any problems with my cut peener, none of the guys with uncut peeners seem to have any problem

I agree with that.

So why do we cut it off our children again ?

J. Frank Parnell: Yeah, there's cancer cells in us all right now. All they are are cells with a bad DNA blueprint. Luckily our bodies have measures to track down and destroy irregular cells our body creates. As for what causes a dramatic rise in DNA mutations, well, radiation and toxins are natural too, in the broadest sense of the term.

Don't even have to go to the broadest sense of the term. Cancer, which occurs both due to nature as well as due to radiation, toxins, etc, is an example of excess when it comes to biology and nature.

A population outbreeding its food source is another example of excess regarding nature and biology.

Gothnet: flyurchin: Having a cock is great - and I'm happy that mine is cut. I love how it looks and how it works. I see some of the benefits to having a foreskin, but I can't indulge and I just wouldn't care to.

Translation -

I love my penis and I'll pretend I'll convince myself that this way is the best because any other conclusion would mean I'm less of a man and my ego can't take that.

What? My ego is fine. I don't need to convince myself - I don't know any different.

Slartibartfaster: Gothnet: I'm less of a man

well to be fair
or not so much

he IS less of a man - someone lopped part of the man bit off
(hope it was not one of those freaky rabbis that clean off with their mouth)

Technically, I was a baby, not a man, when I lost it. So now that I've become a man, I'm all there.

Jubeebee: CrazyCracka420: That being said, if you get your pants down with a female, it's not really gonna matter, but as a courtesy you should keep it trimmed.

Agreed. It's just polite. Like holding the door open.

Looks like I'm trimming down to 1/4" when I get home.

Good luck with that (shave the penis too, that's the most important part).

Also, TF2 sucks, TFC was the sh*t, and like every other Source version (DOD and CS) they f*cked up TF2. What's the deal with no nades? And why didn't they port some of the original maps over...badlands was the sh*t, and the new version blows :(

flyurchin: Totally do it. Nothing like smooth, clean cut balls and cock

my wife likes it like that.
Lots of fun when she helps me do it too

(and unlike my foreskin, it grows back)

Dont go clean shaven though, especially in summer.... it itches when it grows back.

Jubeebee: So far the votes are:
1 - 1/2"
1 - 1/4"
1 - shaved
1 - avoid alleys and straight razors

Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

1 - Ask the girl how she prefers it.

Slartibartfaster: I agree with that.

So why do we cut it off our children again ?

Less chance of snagging it in a zipper?

flyurchin: So now that I've become a man, I'm all there

look again ;-)
not QUITE all of you is there

You know which bit right ?

Molavian: forresttriax: Once my father in law volunteered to change his grandson's diaper. He returned white as a ghost asking why we never told him about the birth defect. My wife asked what he was talking about. He mentioned the penis that was not completely formed. I could not laugh realizing that my American father in law must never have seen one in its natural state.

Most straight American men are uninterested in other men's cocks.

Most gay American men are interested in other men's cocks.

It's odd how many of you are interested in other men's cocks.

Dad?

I just couldn't believe that a man in his mid fifties didn't know what the standard issue equipment was. I bet until that moment he didn't know that his had been altered.

xenomorpheus: crm114:

Or they're doing it wrong and have found an easy scapegoat...

An easy thing to say from your chair, but I'm sure most in this particular situation would have gone to many, many sex therapists and doctors to work things out and find out viable options besides injections or reconstructive surgery.

I'm circ'ed, I cum just fine, keep an erection fine, and have no problems getting it up. I don't see how being circ'ed would effect that...my gf's have always complained (not really seriously though), that I'm always getting a boner. And you usually hear of guys cumming too soon...I don't think anyone would complain about taking longer to blow their load.

IXI Jim IXI: Yes, but cancer is a natural event (at least some instances of it). So saying that there's never any excess in nature or biology is just silly.

wisdom teeth?

some people are born with a vestigial tail.

Of course, if I had one, I'd hope I would have kept it

Slartibartfaster: crm114: I don't have any problems with my cut peener, none of the guys with uncut peeners seem to have any problem

I agree with that.

So why do we cut it off our children again ?

Just for looks...

Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Totally do it. Nothing like smooth, clean cut balls and cock

my wife likes it like that.
Lots of fun when she helps me do it too

(and unlike my foreskin, it grows back)

Dont go clean shaven though, especially in summer.... it itches when it grows back.

I know! That's why now I do it regularily and I use my gf's moisturizing soap on my legs right afterwards. Haven't had a problem with the itchy or the awful 'red dots' for months.

IXI Jim IXI: Less chance of snagging it in a zipper?

hehehe yea that freaking hurts (getting it unstuck even more so)
But (pardon me I was drunk when I did it) as far as I remember, it wasnt the end bit that got caught.

but I did get to go on those drugs that stop erections for 6 weeks so the stitches would not split (ya know, the same stuff they give for adult circumcision). Kinda worked, but I was 18 at the time, so errr... it didnt always work.

// I think they have better medication for that now

Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: So now that I've become a man, I'm all there

look again ;-)
not QUITE all of you is there

You know which bit right ?

Oh I just took a look. Trust me, it's ALL there in ALL its glory.

/this is getting silly (:

flyurchin: Slartibartfaster: flyurchin: Totally do it. Nothing like smooth, clean cut balls and cock

my wife likes it like that.
Lots of fun when she helps me do it too

(and unlike my foreskin, it grows back)

Dont go clean shaven though, especially in summer.... it itches when it grows back.

I know! That's why now I do it regularily and I use my gf's moisturizing soap on my legs right afterwards. Haven't had a problem with the itchy or the awful 'red dots' for months.

You can use topical antibiotic ointment like bacitracin and the irritation should go away. Works wonders, I heard it before, and then I read it in Jenna Jameson's book, and decided to test it myself.

CrazyCracka420: Just for looks

you are so concerned about cosmetics... you are a proponent of unnecessary cosmetic surgery on a baby's genitals ? That does not just SOUND wrong ?

Slartibartfaster: IXI Jim IXI: Less chance of snagging it in a zipper?

hehehe yea that freaking hurts (getting it unstuck even more so)
But (pardon me I was drunk when I did it) as far as I remember, it wasnt the end bit that got caught.

but I did get to go on those drugs that stop erections for 6 weeks so the stitches would not split (ya know, the same stuff they give for adult circumcision). Kinda worked, but I was 18 at the time, so errr... it didnt always work.

// I think they have better medication for that now

jesus, man. Stitches?

finnished: Jubeebee: Which lines up pretty well with our pre-poll estimates. Remember, there's still time to cast your vote to help decide what Jubeebee's junk is going to look like this weekend.

Shave it. Might as well. Let us know how it went.

Fark is not my personal erotica site.

And although nut sucking is a compelling argument, I'm a bit reluctant to drag a razor on my balls. The earlier talk about getting nicks while shaving them does not help either.

Slartibartfaster: IXI Jim IXI: Less chance of snagging it in a zipper?

hehehe yea that freaking hurts (getting it unstuck even more so)
But (pardon me I was drunk when I did it) as far as I remember, it wasnt the end bit that got caught.

but I did get to go on those drugs that stop erections for 6 weeks so the stitches would not split (ya know, the same stuff they give for adult circumcision). Kinda worked, but I was 18 at the time, so errr... it didnt always work.

// I think they have better medication for that now

Franks and beans!

CrazyCracka420: I read it in Jenna Jameson's book

that book had words in it ?!? darn, I gotta go check that again

Slartibartfaster: crm114: I don't have any problems with my cut peener, none of the guys with uncut peeners seem to have any problem

I agree with that.

So why do we cut it off our children again ?

Personal preference of the parents, nothing wrong with that