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paradizelost:kevinfra: The speed camera is a machine. Machines cannot be cross-examined.
What happens with some of these cases, is the car essentially gets ticketed, not the driver. Well IMHO, if a machine (speed camera) can't be cross examined, then it shouldn't accuse another machine (my car) of breaking the law. If you want to play that machine to machine game fine, then let my car pay the ticket and leave me alone.
But cars can't pay fines, only people. So, even though I may not have been driving, I still get the ticket and without some human in the loop, I don't have any recourse.
Say I'm on a business trip to Japan, and I get back there's a speeding ticket in my mailbox. So if I go to court - assuming the speed camera systems allows that.
Me: Your honor, I was out of the country, I couldn't have commited this violation. See, here's my passport Judge: Who was driving your car that day? Me: I don't know, why don't you ask the officer who wrote the ticket? Judge: We don't have an officer who wrote the ticket. Cool Judge: Good Point, ticket dismissed.
But unfortunately, that only works when I have a documented alibi. But shouldn't there be some standard of proof as to who was driving. I'm sure the Speed Camera company would like to just be able to take the fine out of my account based on the license plate of the vehicle, but what ever happed to due process.
You as the owner of the vehicle are liable for your vehicle, just as if the vehicle had been in an accident without you driving, it would be your insurance. Most likely they would also as who has keys for your vehicle and assume that it was a wife or kid or someone you authorized to use the vehicle that was driving it, otherwise there would be a police report stating that the vehicle was stolen.
So you'd be OK with going to jail because your car was used to commit a crime while you were in another state?