Focus. Focus.

AuroraLeigh: I've seen "Boner", "bollocks", and "POOP" engraved in the sidewalk near my apartment complex.

I hope they catch the bastard.

If you saw poop in the concrete...you can really blame the dog this time.

If the homeowner thought ahead, he could have made a few modifications and the rich guy would not have wanted the concrete.

For example...

T-Luv: greaser_77: T-Luv: Prestige wins games? Notre Dame would like a word

Lame, both the school and your retort

Your original premise that somehow Oklahoma's prestige makes up for Big Game Bob's habit of choking was lame, and so is your chance of him not blowing it again next year.

I like how a thread that should be dedicated solely to what a dumbass the King of Oklahoma Aggies is has devolved into a "Texas Sucks" thread. Makes sense, since UT is the new Aggie in Texas. To wit:



Moral Victory U!!!!

Anyone else reminded of the Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns wants his Teddy Bear back from Maggie?

Seriously, though - money can't buy class, I guess. I suspect the reason Pickins didn't just contact the owner and ask permission is that he figured the owner would demand an extortionate sum for the privilege, seeing with whom he was dealing. But really, tough titties, Jed Clampet. Pay the man, if you're so attached to it.

My childhood home has a tree in the front yard which holds many fond memories for me. What do you think would happen if Lil' Old Non-Billionaire Me hired some guys to dig it up in the middle of the night and bring it to me?

RETURN THE SLAB...

Boone Picken's ranch is about twenty miles north of Pampa Texas and about 35 miles north of the town I live in.

This thieving bastard lowlife billionare is more than willing to drain the Ogalla aquifer in order to further deepen his pockets. And under Texas law and right of capture, can do so.

He has built an amazing ranch on his Mesa Vista Ranch on state highway 70 and the Canadian River. My sil works for a guy building the ponds and rivers and watering the landscaping.

Pickens' attempt to take over the Phillips Petroleum Company cost long time stock holders (ie employees and former employess) a small fortune.

He has this grandiose scheme to build a windmill farm but has put that on hold due to the economy. First of all, look at the environmental damage such a farm would bring about. Would Pickens put the mills on his 68K + ranch? "Hell no, the damn things are ugly". And they are. Is wind power a real choice? No. Investigate the government subsidies, the loss of power in transmission, etc. Wind power is a joke. Put a nuclear power plant up.

And finally, as my diatribe comes to an end, if you can jail this old bastard for anything, find it and do it.

And for all the tinhat farkers, Dick Chenny is his hunting buddy and regularly flies in for out of season hunting and butt sechs.

/I keed on part of the last paragraph.

greaser_77: how long has fark = fark ?

It's been awhile now. You're supposed to use that everywhere on the Internet nowadays, not just here. We all decided to play along because if a site becomes 100% compliant, we all get ponies.

Iwouldhitit: I like how a thread that should be dedicated solely to what a dumbass the King of Oklahoma Aggies is has devolved into a "Texas Sucks" thread. Makes sense, since UT is the new Aggie in Texas. To wit:


OSU also sucks, but usually isn't worth mentioning.


eqtworld: I don't think it's cool to link my personal info in thread :(

BIE?

/can't blame a guy for asking

Hmmm... a rich person stealing something from someone less priviledged? I don't believe it.

Well, it did have his name on it.

jehovahs witness protection: It's not very smart to fark with somebody with billions that can be used to make your life a living hell.

/just sayin

No one is dissapear proof.
/just sayin'

Ken Chestnut

Awesome name.

Treygreen13: cowgirl toffee: That homeowner doesn't give a crap about the piece of concrete.
If you allowed him to go into the rich guy's house and take one item, what do you think it would be?
My guess, it would not be the slab with the name on it.

He said in the article he doesn't really care about that little chunk of concrete... he does, however, care that someone just REMOVED A LARGE CHUNK OF HIS DRIVEWAY without asking or even telling him.

It's about Pickens not caring about the guy who owns the house now. There was absolutely zero consideration for the other human being.

It looks like someone on his 'construction' team may have just said, "hey... this could be wrong".

Nah. Money buys out logical thought.

Gamer Grrrl:

The article says he bought the property specifically because it was Pickens' property, and because of the graffiti. He might be lying, but it's probably at least a little bit true.

Well, maybe just a little bit. -tiny itsy wittle bit-

greaser_77: T-Luv: So your point is... OU used to have a good football team?

farking longhorns...
Prestige Rankings Link (new window)

Just football? (new window)

You're behind the Aggies *snort*

Property rights are property rights. But considering that all the damage was a missing slab, all I would ask for is a new driveway.

/a VERY expensive driveway
//The best that his money can buy
///Made to my very demanding specifications

Deadwing: You're behind the Aggies *snort*

The Sooners won the NC in 2002, but are ranked 25th on that PDF. I take it that is all women & men sports combined?

grizzlyjohnson

If I was in charge there'd be a special law on the books for rich farks who think they can do anything they want. It'd be whatever the existing penalty for the crime is times one million. That way, arrogant, thoughtless crap like this would be more than an afternoon's work for a $600 an hour lawyer.

No, they'll still just pay the fine, or find some other way around it. Jail time is the answer. 90 days in the slammer, the same slammer any other burgler would get. At 81, 90 days behind bars means something. Remember, Paris Hilton could pay any fine with impunity, but common-joe jail time was a whole different ballgame.

Then you fine them the replacement costs for good measure.

There's a pretty good chance that he didn't want to sell it to Pickens just because Pickens is an asshole.

/wouldn't sell him my piss if he were on fire

Treygreen13: eqtworld: Treygreen13: Instead, he just sent out a crew and lifted a huge chunk out of somebody's driveway. Fark him.

It says in the article it was city property, you can't pay a guy for city property.

If he stole anything it was probably from the city, which would probably not have let you buy the slab anyway.

Better to pilfer the slab, fix it (it says the sidewalk was repoured and fixed) then deal with any consequences. The worst they are going to do is make you pay more money to do a better fixing job

From the article:

Ken Chestnut, an attorney for the city, said he's not sure if anyone sought permission to remove the slab. But it's "a private matter between the parties" and the city does not need to get involved, Chestnut said.

It is only technically city property because it is near the street, and the re-pouring cracked his driveway. It is a private matter, and it is irrelevant how wealthy Mr. Pickens is. You don't go to someone's house and rip up their driveway because it has sentimental value to you.

Evidence would suggest otherwise.

I have to be honest, at least someone is here, I have a fair bit of money now. I don't have anywhere NEAR that much, there is a point to this...

If I had his kind of money? You're right, I'd be a total asshat too. 81 years old? That's not that far away really for me. I've already reached the point where I'm old enough to not really have the patience to deal with a lot of things.

If I had his sort of stack of cash I'd likely be a prick too.

§21 1701. Larceny defined.
Larceny is the taking of personal property accomplished by fraud or stealth, and with intent to deprive another thereof.
. . .
§21 1703. Degrees of larceny.
Larceny is divided into two degrees; the first of which is termed grand larceny, the second petit larceny.
. . .
§21-1704. Grand and petit larceny defined.
Grand larceny is larceny committed in either of the following cases:
1. When the property taken is of value exceeding Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00).
. . .
§21-1705. Grand larceny a felony.
Grand larceny is a felony punishable by imprisonment in the State Penitentiary not exceeding five (5) years if the value of the property is Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00) or more . . . .
. . .
§21 1712. Severed fixture, larceny of.
Any fixture or part of realty, the instant it is severed from the realty becomes personal property, and the subject of larceny within the meaning of this article.


I'm not an Okie lawyer (thank God), but I'm thinking that chunk of concrete is worth more than $500, and that Mr. Pickens and his accomplices should see jail time. The optional fines in lieu of jail time are clearly an insufficient deterrent here.

greaser_77: Deadwing: You're behind the Aggies *snort*

The Sooners won the NC in 2002, but are ranked 25th on that PDF. I take it that is all women & men sports combined?

You would take that right sir! And here (new window) is a Wiki for ya!

greaser_77: eqtworld: I don't think it's cool to link my personal info in thread :(

BIE?

/can't blame a guy for asking

Why bother asking when google has everything you could possibly want?

Hell, if it means that much to you, I can google some stuff up for you and send it via email.

Couldn't he have just said 'Hey, here's $1000... gimme the goddamn slab of concrete.'

Iwouldhitit: T-Luv: greaser_77: T-Luv: Prestige wins games? Notre Dame would like a word

Lame, both the school and your retort

Your original premise that somehow Oklahoma's prestige makes up for Big Game Bob's habit of choking was lame, and so is your chance of him not blowing it again next year.

I like how a thread that should be dedicated solely to what a dumbass the King of Oklahoma Aggies is has devolved into a "Texas Sucks" thread. Makes sense, since UT is the new Aggie in Texas. To wit:



Moral Victory U!!!!

Forget it. Their superiority complex is such that nothing approaching "facts" or "photographic evidence" will convince them otherwise. They still think that their coach's repeat of craven pandering is approaching a noble act, owing to the sick sense of entitlement that infects their fanbase.

Oh, and Poke fan? Yeah, we know how good you're supposed to be. We do follow football pretty closely. What we also know, that you seem to be neglecting, is how good a certain team down south is going to be as well. Hope you're not shocked at the end of the year that you're down in fourth place looking up at... BAYLOR?!?

This is bullcrap if I did this to my neighbor I would either be in jail or sued. There are different rules if you have a lot of money.

AnotherDisillusionedCollegeStudent: Hope you're not shocked at the end of the year that you're down in fourth place looking up at... BAYLOR?!?

That Baylor qb is goooood.

Well, you don't get to be a billionaire by writing a lot of checks

"a private matter between the parties" and the city does not need to get involved, Chestnut said.

Dammit, I'm heading to Oklahoma with a flat bed truck and a forklift. How much do you think I can fit on it before I leave the state? Apparently, the police won't try to stop you or even investigate if you steal from a private person.

Will he be charged for the act of vandalism he committed as a boy as well?

wmoonfox: All the more reason to bring criminal charges. If I hacked off a piece of somebody's driveway and ran off with it, I'd be cooling my heels in jail, waiting to see what charges the DA decided to drop on me. This guy hasn't even thought about that, and the idea of pressing charges seems outright foreign to the authorities in this case

You'd be facing several (newly inscribed) felony theft charges, and possibly some terrorist charges as well. The city would suddenly be quite happy to charge and prosecute to the max since you're not a billionaire who could bankrupt them in court.
You would be forced to plead guilty for fear of losing and getting 25 years so the prosecutor can keep his win stats and you'd get, depending on the judge, 1-3 years. Plus a large fine you'll be paying for the next 30 years.

That's why it's good to be rich and while I'm getting that lottery ticket tonight. I have a feeling I'm going to win...

If the slab was on city property, then the goons hired by T BONE were guilty of destroying city property. You go out and destroy some city property and see if the city attorney laughs it off.

/Don't like T BONE
//Don't Like Oklahoma
///Fark 'em both, Hook 'em Horns!

Greenmail.

It's how T. Boone made his fortune.

Bastard.

Pickens donates a lot of money to a lot of places--likely to that city out of pure sentiment. If you, the city, find that a wealthy benefactor has relieved you of a small portion of sidewalk with only sentimental value--and repaired the damage at his own expense--how likely are you to bring charges upon him. I can tell you that the city attorney who decided to pursue legal action against Pickens on this would find himself on the outs with much of the city leaders.

Yes stealing is wrong, but why risk turning Pickens into an enemy?

My advice to the homeowner would be to create a tongue-in-cheek plaque honoring the location of the theft and it's former contents.

eqtworld: BumpInTheNight: Nelly Furtaco: Head_Shot: BumpInTheNight: Head_Shot: BumpInTheNight: eqtworld:

Heh, that little exchange cause my reflex of 'look in profile' and now I'm wondering whether its a good or bad thing that I recognized who that is in the picture. :P

Yeah, weird. I had the exact same reaction. Although I really don't think she is who you and I think she is. Couldn't be, could it?

The confirmer was one of the star tattoos peeking out, and nah I don't think so either.

Bingo! LOL.

Is the pic some porno skank that does super-foul sex acts with unrestrained enthusiasm? Because I don't recognize her. What's the story here?

Allie Sin, and pretty much yah.

You sound like a prude. It's not 1954.

Women can enjoy sex too. Fark off

I realized why I didn't recognize her in the photo: she's not pregnant and surrounded by dicks. Ha!

3' x 5' is large chunk of concrete. How big did Lil Boone write his name???

/Must have been an arrogrant prick as a kid, too.

1) In an action for conversion (technically a replevin action) you can get the object back if it is unique. I believe this qualifies.

If Mr. Pickens ignores the order of the court for replevin he is in contempt of court and will be arrested. Just like anyone else.

2) In an action for real property you get attorney fees paid for. This is for damage to real property, so yay.

3) I'm sure the property owner was being unreasonable in his asking price when T-Boone wanted to buy it. As is his right. Used to getting his way T-Boone just took what he really wanted.

So screw him.
- - -

GO TULSA! (and OU and OSU for that matter)

wmoonfox: Megain: rich people should be allowed to get away with theft

This.

I'm glad I live in a land where people with greater means than I can take whatever I have whenever they like without the fear of prosecution that we lesser folks have -- just like every other place on the planet. It helps me realize that we're all not so different from each other after all.

Its a 3 x 5 concrete block.

If any of us normal folks had gotten caught stealing it we'd pay restitution and that'd be the end of it.

Because he's worth billions he's being sued.

Liberally1337: Pickens donates a lot of money to a lot of places--likely to that city out of pure sentiment. If you, the city, find that a wealthy benefactor has relieved you of a small portion of sidewalk with only sentimental value--and repaired the damage at his own expense--how likely are you to bring charges upon him. I can tell you that the city attorney who decided to pursue legal action against Pickens on this would find himself on the outs with much of the city leaders.

Yes stealing is wrong, but why risk turning Pickens into an enemy?

My advice to the homeowner would be to create a tongue-in-cheek plaque honoring the location of the theft and it's former contents.

you can bet that any money he donates is going to lessen his tax burden some how

the guys is s prick for doing this

hey and TBoon ... grow the fark up already it's just a piece of cement and that whole sentimental value thing .. transcend allready holy mercy you are a grown assed man

tboon: (with sniffles and tears) " b b but i wrote my name on that in a previous time period "

/get over it

greaser_77: T-Luv: Neutral field. OU lost

/And they lost their bowl game so... Back to the topic at hand?

Count the number of football national championships UT has. Now count OU's, so... Back to the topic at hand?

And how many of those were the result of cheating?
Face it, the entire mythology of your state is built on the foundation of cheating.

Gamer Grrrl: MajorityWhip: Gamer Grrrl: So Pickens admits that he has the slab now, so it's very likely he did in fact steal it. I can see where the plaintiff is coming from on this one. Pickens clearly believes in the "better to ask forgiveness than permission" theory.

On a slightly related topic, a church down the street from my house installed a low brick retaining wall when I was a kid. The concrete blocks were filled in (vertically) with cement, and the wet cement was accessible at the top. My neighbor from three doors down wrote my name in the cement, one letter in each block, about three times. My name is Keri, and when I was a kid, I was the only Keri around. Also, the church was less than a block away. Fortunately, I was never accused of anything, but every time I'm visiting my parents and I walk past the cement blocks I think of Shane Eberle, the kid who did it.

Sounds like Shane was sweet on you

I thought of that, but he was a manipulative and cunning little booger. The first time I was ever at his house (we were 5), he said, 'Keri, chase after me while I ride around on my bigwheel" and I did because he was my new friend. His dog German Shepherd Boomer was a trained guard dog, but I didn't know that. Boomer thought I was attacking Shane, and bit me on the leg. Shane got spanked, in front of me, because he knew Boomer would "defend" him.

I would not be surprised if Shane really wanted to vandalize the wall but knew if he wrote 'Shane' he'd get in trouble. So he wrote my name instead.

/Shane got spanked in front of me A LOT
//Spanking isn't always the solution folks. Perhaps you should try something else?
///That always made me uncomfortable
////I'm pretty sure Shane was an accident since his siblings were at least 10 years older than him.
//Slashies!!!

I think you missed the underlying point that Shane liked being spanked in front of you.