eqtworld: Behind the scenes they fined you $4.28 (via your lawyer) and you had to pay restitution to the owner of $2.48. Your assistant would not tell you, and you would not care if they did

All the more reason to bring criminal charges. If I hacked off a piece of somebody's driveway and ran off with it, I'd be cooling my heels in jail, waiting to see what charges the DA decided to drop on me. This guy hasn't even thought about that, and the idea of pressing charges seems outright foreign to the authorities in this case. The mere fact that the homeowner's only method of obtaining justice is going to be pursuing a hopeless civil suit against lawyers that wipe their ass with more money than he is worth should disgust anyone with a pulse.

eqtworld: It's good to be rich

Or cute.... How you doin?

Oil men think they can get away with anything.

Why didn't offer a pile of cash to the owner?

wmoonfox: I'm glad I live in a land where people with greater means than I can take whatever I have whenever they like without the fear of prosecution that we lesser folks have -- just like every other place on the planet. It helps me realize that we're all not so different from each other after all.


Exactly. Farkers assuming that Pickens should have negotiated with the rightful owner are nuts. If the owner had something some rich farker wanted very badly, the dude would have asked for a crazy amount of money ($1 Million?, $10 Million ?) or just had the smug satisfaction of saying no to some jackass billionaire.

This way, Boone gets his preciousss no matter what.
Consequences, if any, will amount to thousands of dollars.

Treygreen13: Collect a hefty sum for damages to the driveway, recover the stolen property (which they can do, by the way), and tell him it'll cost him $10,000 for the memories. break it up with a sledgehammer in front of Pickens, then piss on the gravel and tell him "you could've had it for the asking." You act like a dick, you get a delicious dose of justice.

My take on it. Privileged impunity needs to be sharply curbed.

By the way, the spines on the city's attorney and the police chief need to be stiffened. In the article, the spokesman for Pickens all but said "sweep this under the rug and I'll slip you some 'historical monument money' for good measure."

That kind of palm-greasing arrogance needs to end.

kevcof 2009-07-14 05:54:45 PM
How long before someone sneaks in and gives that signed section of driveway a nice midnight sledge-hammerin' at it's new location? What a pathetic story about what must be a lonely old man with nothing to speak for him but a piece of cement he signed 70 years ago. So this is his legacy -- probably the last story about him before he dies. At least he didn't have a planned London concert engagement.

Nobody will get anywhere close enough to do that.

horonto: Why didn't offer a pile of cash to the owner?

He's rich, they don't pay people for things they can steal.

How else would they have gotten rich?

tidal9: kevcof 2009-07-14 05:54:45 PM
How long before someone sneaks in and gives that signed section of driveway a nice midnight sledge-hammerin' at it's new location? What a pathetic story about what must be a lonely old man with nothing to speak for him but a piece of cement he signed 70 years ago. So this is his legacy -- probably the last story about him before he dies. At least he didn't have a planned London concert engagement.

Nobody will get anywhere close enough to do that.

You're probably right. If you tried it, you'd probably get 5 steps on the property and get shot.

eqtworld: Come on... don't be melodramatic

Melodrama would be claiming that Pickens lowered the value of his property by stealing a piece of history and asking for tens of thousands (the difference between owning a historical site and owning a house.)

No, Pickens needs to be somehow slapped for acting like a jackass - that's not melodrama. That's simple justice.

eqtworld: It was technically city property, and the piece of removed concrete was immediately repoured.

Irrelevant. If you steal my truck... or, let's say, to use your example, my tree, and replace it with a duplicate, you have still stolen from me. The fact that the property likely belongs to the city makes it even worse, as a failure to prosecute would indicate a bias on the part of city officials.

The fact of the matter is if you, I, or anyone had no criminal record and "stole" a piece of concrete we defaced 70 years ago (which had never been fixed or prosecuted because such things are not a big deal) and tried to patch up the sidewalk the best we could...

The court would be lenient and at worst would make us pay for a better patch job.

Thirty years ago, maybe... not in this day and age. People go out of their way to avoid the appearance of impropriety at every turn. They only make exceptions for the elderly or the rich, both of which this guy has going for him. If you or I did it, especially if we announced it proudly to the world, we would be in jail -- no questions asked.

eqtworld: Treygreen13: Collect a hefty sum for damages to the driveway, recover the stolen property (which they can do, by the way), and tell him it'll cost him $10,000 for the memories. You act like a dick, you get a delicious dose of justice.

The home-owner could bank off Mr. Pickens' arrogance, and it looks like he will.

They will not recover the property.

Mr. Pickens will never even hear about "losing" 10 grand. His attorney won't even mention such a small sum to him in passing.

he won't care or even know

It would be like you saying to your assistant "Hey, I like that tree, I had a swingset there when I was a kid, bring it to my Texas estate". It would then be taken care of and the next time you were at your Texas estate you would see the tree and think in passing "oh yeah! I remember asking for that. Cool!"

Behind the scenes they fined you $4.28 (via your lawyer) and you had to pay restitution to the owner of $2.48. Your assistant would not tell you, and you would not care if they did

It's good to be rich

It is amazing to me how you and I consistently have the opposite opinion. Perhaps you are my e-doppelganger.

phartnocker: How awesome would it be to live in a world where if you wanted something you just took it and paid off anyone who had a problem with it?

I do this all the time, only I call it shopping.

It seems to me that people, on behalf of Pickens, did damage this guys driveway. Contrary to popular idiocy, writing your name on something does not make it yours... Pickens should be on the hook for tearing up the rest of this guys driveway, then pouring a new one of good quality.

eqtworld:

Heh, that little exchanged cause my reflex of 'look in profile' and now I'm wondering whether its a good or bad thing that I recognized who that is in the picture. :P

That homeowner doesn't give a crap about the piece of concrete.

If you allowed him to go into the rich guy's house and take one item, what do you think it would be?

My guess, it would not be the slab with the name on it.

cowgirl toffee: That homeowner doesn't give a crap about the piece of concrete.

If you allowed him to go into the rich guy's house and take one item, what do you think it would be?

My guess, it would not be the slab with the name on it.

He said in the article he doesn't really care about that little chunk of concrete... he does, however, care that someone just REMOVED A LARGE CHUNK OF HIS DRIVEWAY without asking or even telling him.

It's about Pickens not caring about the guy who owns the house now. There was absolutely zero consideration for the other human being.

eqtworld: I've stolen your property from the city? what?

Now you're just being contrary to avoid debating the point.

MajorityWhip: Gamer Grrrl: So Pickens admits that he has the slab now, so it's very likely he did in fact steal it. I can see where the plaintiff is coming from on this one. Pickens clearly believes in the "better to ask forgiveness than permission" theory.

On a slightly related topic, a church down the street from my house installed a low brick retaining wall when I was a kid. The concrete blocks were filled in (vertically) with cement, and the wet cement was accessible at the top. My neighbor from three doors down wrote my name in the cement, one letter in each block, about three times. My name is Keri, and when I was a kid, I was the only Keri around. Also, the church was less than a block away. Fortunately, I was never accused of anything, but every time I'm visiting my parents and I walk past the cement blocks I think of Shane Eberle, the kid who did it.

Sounds like Shane was sweet on you

I thought of that, but he was a manipulative and cunning little booger. The first time I was ever at his house (we were 5), he said, 'Keri, chase after me while I ride around on my bigwheel" and I did because he was my new friend. His dog German Shepherd Boomer was a trained guard dog, but I didn't know that. Boomer thought I was attacking Shane, and bit me on the leg. Shane got spanked, in front of me, because he knew Boomer would "defend" him.

I would not be surprised if Shane really wanted to vandalize the wall but knew if he wrote 'Shane' he'd get in trouble. So he wrote my name instead.

/Shane got spanked in front of me A LOT
//Spanking isn't always the solution folks. Perhaps you should try something else?
///That always made me uncomfortable
////I'm pretty sure Shane was an accident since his siblings were at least 10 years older than him.
//Slashies!!!

Something tells me "David McCart, who bought the two-story, 17-room home in Holdenville nearly 20 years ago - partly because of Pickens' signature -..." is more then partly and more likely what we aren't hearing is the guy had previously tried to high-ball the price to Pickens knowing he was in the mood for wanting childhood nostalgia. Still doesn't given Pickens the right to just steal a hunk of the guy's drive way but I think there is douchery on both sides of this feud.

cowgirl toffee: That homeowner doesn't give a crap about the piece of concrete.

The article says he bought the property specifically because it was Pickens' property, and because of the graffiti. He might be lying, but it's probably at least a little bit true.

Pickens seems like kind of a dumb ass either him or his lawyer who made the statement.. he's commemorating his roots in Oklahoma by ripping them out of the ground in oklahoma and moving them to texas? doesn't seem very commemorative to me.. why not just buy the whole property and leave it alone..

fark you, I work for Mel Brooks!

eqtworld: what are you going to do about it, fine him?

Shoot him. Duh. It's Texas.

George Bush probably had something to do with this.

Boone is Boone, and Boone is a guy that welches on a deal

doctorwormwood: Pickens seems like kind of a dumb ass either him or his lawyer who made the statement.. he's commemorating his roots in Oklahoma by ripping them out of the ground in oklahoma and moving them to texas? doesn't seem very commemorative to me.. why not just buy the whole property and leave it alone..

That hunk of cement adds the greatly to the view in west texass.
Hell on earth.

BumpInTheNight: eqtworld:

Heh, that little exchanged cause my reflex of 'look in profile' and now I'm wondering whether its a good or bad thing that I recognized who that is in the picture. :P

Yeah, weird. I had the exact same reaction. Although I really don't think she is who you and I think she is. Couldn't be, could it?

Head_Shot: BumpInTheNight: eqtworld:

Heh, that little exchange cause my reflex of 'look in profile' and now I'm wondering whether its a good or bad thing that I recognized who that is in the picture. :P

Yeah, weird. I had the exact same reaction. Although I really don't think she is who you and I think she is. Couldn't be, could it?

The confirmer was one of the star tattoos peeking out, and nah I don't think so either.

BumpInTheNight: Head_Shot: BumpInTheNight: eqtworld:

Heh, that little exchange cause my reflex of 'look in profile' and now I'm wondering whether its a good or bad thing that I recognized who that is in the picture. :P

Yeah, weird. I had the exact same reaction. Although I really don't think she is who you and I think she is. Couldn't be, could it?

The confirmer was one of the star tattoos peeking out, and nah I don't think so either.

Bingo! LOL.

greaser_77: T-Luv: So your point is... OU used to have a good football team?

farking longhorns...
Prestige Rankings Link (new window)

Prestige wins games? Notre Dame would like a word

T-Luv: Prestige wins games?

and lots of black people.

That's FRAUD!
Those are mines!
http://tinyurl.com/m4q2a9
(copy and paste)

eqtworld: I just finished my finals and have the rest of the summer off!

Sigh, jealous I don't have any summers off


BumpInTheNight: The confirmer was one of the star tattoos peeking out, and nah I don't think so either

I believe everything I see/read on the interwebs...don't ruin it

Head_Shot: BumpInTheNight: Head_Shot: BumpInTheNight: eqtworld:

Heh, that little exchange cause my reflex of 'look in profile' and now I'm wondering whether its a good or bad thing that I recognized who that is in the picture. :P

Yeah, weird. I had the exact same reaction. Although I really don't think she is who you and I think she is. Couldn't be, could it?

The confirmer was one of the star tattoos peeking out, and nah I don't think so either.

Bingo! LOL.

Is the pic some porno skank that does super-foul sex acts with unrestrained enthusiasm? Because I don't recognize her. What's the story here?

T-Luv: Prestige wins games? Notre Dame would like a word

Lame, both the school and your retort

Nelly Furtaco: Head_Shot: BumpInTheNight: Head_Shot: BumpInTheNight: eqtworld:

Heh, that little exchange cause my reflex of 'look in profile' and now I'm wondering whether its a good or bad thing that I recognized who that is in the picture. :P

Yeah, weird. I had the exact same reaction. Although I really don't think she is who you and I think she is. Couldn't be, could it?

The confirmer was one of the star tattoos peeking out, and nah I don't think so either.

Bingo! LOL.

Is the pic some porno skank that does super-foul sex acts with unrestrained enthusiasm? Because I don't recognize her. What's the story here?

Allie Sin, and pretty much yah.

eqtworld: I am in FL too! I've been spending most of my day at the beach, working on the tan :P

Pics, or it didn't happen

Consolation for taking that $2B hit on his wind farm idea?

Well then, I think my work here is done. :P

BumpInTheNight: Nelly Furtaco: Head_Shot: BumpInTheNight: Head_Shot: BumpInTheNight: eqtworld:

Heh, that little exchange cause my reflex of 'look in profile' and now I'm wondering whether its a good or bad thing that I recognized who that is in the picture. :P

Yeah, weird. I had the exact same reaction. Although I really don't think she is who you and I think she is. Couldn't be, could it?

The confirmer was one of the star tattoos peeking out, and nah I don't think so either.

Bingo! LOL.

Is the pic some porno skank that does super-foul sex acts with unrestrained enthusiasm? Because I don't recognize her. What's the story here?

Allie Sin, and pretty much yah.

Think "bong-coated-cork-smoker"
Now dirty that up a bit.

Link (new window)

pretty sure the site is NSFW

So did we really just out the star of "Anal Bandits 4," or is it just another pervy fool?

greaser_77: T-Luv: Prestige wins games? Notre Dame would like a word

Lame, both the school and your retort

Your original premise that somehow Oklahoma's prestige makes up for Big Game Bob's habit of choking was lame, and so is your chance of him not blowing it again next year.

Nelly Furtaco: So did we really just out the star of "Anal Bandits 4," or is it just another pervy fool?

Pervy Fool. Who the hell finishes school finals mid-July?

eqtworld: I don't think it's cool to link my personal info in thread :(

Wait, so you're seriously contending that is you in the picture who's file name is natidorm.jpg (as in naughty nati, the original name she held in the industry) and that you did just finish a battery of school finals in July?

Btw if I were a prude I wouldn't have recognized the actress in the picture, now would I? :P Btw if by some bizzare chance that really is you, I'd sacraficed a little of kittens in your honour, I hope that helps. :P

*a lot, a lot of kittens. Doh!

eqtworld: I don't think it's cool to link my personal info in thread :(

You work in passively derailing a thread the way other artists might work in oils or clay. It is your true medium; a master.

Couldn't he wait just a few more years? He'll be getting his very own slab of concrete with his name etched in it anyway.