Interesting piece of law, the lawyer is a dumbass for making the statement.

/I bet the trip was made in a nice Reliant automobile.

No, it's brilliant... And then those people turn up missing.

Lawyer offers $1,000,000 to anyone who can prove his client's guilt. Oops


Like the opposing counsel? (DRTFA)


*begins preparing Kraft Dinner*

A lawyer turned out to be slimy?

No way!

Well obviously since they didn't shake on the bet it's invalid.

"Your Honor, ah move that I be disbarred, for introducin' this evidence against my own cliant"

Just a simple country hyperchicken

Tom_Slick: Interesting piece of law, the lawyer is a dumbass for making the statement.

/I bet the trip was made in a nice Reliant automobile.

But not a real Reliant automobile, that's cruel.

Why is this green?

I doubt that Dustin Kolodziej completed the dare in that he didnot kill 4 people on the trip.

I think this sounds a lot like Leonard v. Pepsico (new window). Still a stupid thing for the lawyer to say.

Or rather doing no such thing.

This is funny, and the defense attorney should get clobbered. From what I recall of first year contracts, if the kid can prove that he believed the million dollar offer was legitimate - and if he can show that objectively others thought it was legitimate - he's got a 50/50 shot at winning.

Personally, I hope the kid wins. You can buy a lot of expensive dijon ketchup with a $1 million.

ne2d: I think this sounds a lot like Leonard v. Pepsico (new window). Still a stupid thing for the lawyer to say.

Among other claims made, Leonard claimed that a federal judge was incapable of deciding on the matter, and that instead the decision had to be made by a jury consisting of members of "the Pepsi generation," to whom the advertisement would allegedly constitute an offer

Hahaha. Awesome.

ne2d: I think this sounds a lot like Leonard v. Pepsico (new window). Still a stupid thing for the lawyer to say.

Too bad he didn't win that, because you know, fark Pepsico.

Madbassist1: Why is this green?

It's the color of a dress.

FTA: Cheney Mason went on Dateline and offered a million dollars to anyone who could prove that his client, Nelson Ivan Serrano, was actually able to travel across two states and kill four people in the time that prosecutors had alleged.

OK, so Kolodziej managed to do the travel within the time limit. But did he also kill four people along the way? Because that takes time too. If he didn't, then the lawyer's point is still valid and he shouldn't have to pay a cent.

/passes Englebert Slaptyback a jar of Dijon ketchup

duncangonuts: ne2d: I think this sounds a lot like Leonard v. Pepsico (new window). Still a stupid thing for the lawyer to say.

Among other claims made, Leonard claimed that a federal judge was incapable of deciding on the matter, and that instead the decision had to be made by a jury consisting of members of "the Pepsi generation," to whom the advertisement would allegedly constitute an offer

Hahaha. Awesome.

This sound a lot like the Toy Yoda case.

I'd be rich.

Preeeety sure that's not how it works.

Foolkiller: Madbassist1: Why is this green?

It's the color of a dress.

That's just cruel.

The Dateline segment is available here: 4: a 10 hour window at about the 3:50 point.

I think he should pay. He was making a statement on a national news program intended to sway public opinion in favor of his client. Everyone had reason to take all his statements seriously. It was not an offhanded comment made over a beer bottle in a bar.

Ivo Shandor

/passes Englebert Slaptyback a jar of Dijon ketchup


Merci beaucoup!


*offers Ivo Shandor a fruit roll-up*

Are you saying I can win a free toyyoda?

"I've argued in front of every judge in this state. Often as a lawyer."

What the hell is a 'ute'?

A lawyer full of crap. Who would have thought that was possible?

That's pretty much a lesson every lawyer learns on day 1, minute 1 in school. I hope the Judge doesn't dismiss the case and teaches the moran lawyer a lesson. Not only was it stupid from a contract law perspective, it was clearly not in his client's best interests.

He asked Mason for the money, but Mason has so far refused to pay up, alleging that the challenge was a joke or hyperbole.


I wonder if he represents Casino Owners. Just saying.


If the video tape the law student made is admissible (and if I was him, I would give it to the DA), this lawyer is screwed.

The attorney's denial of the fact that such a series of crimes was physically possible marks him as a bad lawyer unable to think more than one move ahead, and the million dollar bounty is but further evidence of this condition.

Foolkiller: This sound a lot like the Toy Yoda case.

Actually it doesn't. Maybe if he offered a million "doll hairs" you could make that connection, but this guy simply lied.

Nunky: Foolkiller: Madbassist1: Why is this green?

It's the color of a dress.

That's just cruel.

Not a real green dress.

notmtwain: The Dateline segment is available here: 4: a 10 hour window at about the 3:50 point.

I think he should pay. He was making a statement on a national news program intended to sway public opinion in favor of his client. Everyone had reason to take all his statements seriously. It was not an offhanded comment made over a beer bottle in a bar.

I'm not a lawyer, and won't comment on the validity of the any claim on the $1 million, but I am willing to bet that the Attorney that made the offer sees a dramatic drop in business after his little on-air farkup

Time to pay up, law shiat-talking-guy.

Reminds me of Leonard v. Pepsico, Inc. (new window)

"If we lose this game, I'll walk home"

//Jim Rooker would like to warn people to watch what they say.

FTA:If you think back to your 1L contracts course, Kolodziej might actually have something along the lines of an argument here. The dare sounds suspiciously like a unilateral contract. A unilateral contract, you'll remember, is one that is offered to the population generally. The offeror can't force anyone to perform, but obligates herself to meet the terms of the agreement if anyone actually does. An offer for a reward is the best example of a unilateral contract, although dares and wagers might also qualify.

On the other hand, it's not very likely that Mason intended for anyone to take him seriously, so a judge might not really consider his statement a unilateral contract. Without knowing more about Texas contract law, I'd wager that the judge will toss the case, save Mason a million clams and give Kolodziej a lesson in real world contracts.

Uhhh... isn't MASON the one who should be receiving the lesson in "real world contracts?"

I don't think this offer was made in Imagination-Land.

Unless this is just another mass hallucination...

Forbidden Doughnut: "I've argued in front of every judge in this state. Often as a lawyer."

"Mr. Hutz w've been in here for four hours. Do you have any evidence at all?"

"Well, Your Honor. We've plenty of hearsay and conjecture. Those are kinds of evidence."

Excellent use of FAIL tag.

Well even if this was a binding contract, all Kolodziej did was prove that he could drive that route in the percribed time. He could not prove that the killer could on the day in question.

/lawyer math
//i hope he has to pay court costs for the frivolous lawsuit

rat_brain_flies_plane: FTA:If you think back to your 1L contracts course, Kolodziej might actually have something along the lines of an argument here. The dare sounds suspiciously like a unilateral contract. A unilateral contract, you'll remember, is one that is offered to the population generally. The offeror can't force anyone to perform, but obligates herself to meet the terms of the agreement if anyone actually does. An offer for a reward is the best example of a unilateral contract, although dares and wagers might also qualify.

On the other hand, it's not very likely that Mason intended for anyone to take him seriously, so a judge might not really consider his statement a unilateral contract. Without knowing more about Texas contract law, I'd wager that the judge will toss the case, save Mason a million clams and give Kolodziej a lesson in real world contracts.

Uhhh... isn't MASON the one who should be receiving the lesson in "real world contracts?"

I don't think this offer was made in Imagination-Land.

Unless this is just another mass hallucination...

I think that Kolodziej is not really needing a lesson. He is not out all that much if the guy doesn't pay up, but he stands to get a lot if he does. It is a simple case of expected value -- and Kolodziej seems to have a great handle on that.

Tom_Slick: Interesting piece of law, the lawyer is a dumbass for making the statement.

/I bet the trip was made in a nice Reliant automobile.



It don't get no nicer y'all...

FTFA: Mason just better hope that the judge in the murder trial doesn't allow the prosecution to admit Kolodziej's video into evidence.

The lawyer might weasel out of the million bucks, but his client will fry.

It seems to me that this could very reasonably be interpreted as an offer for a reward. I mean, a million dollars isn't some way-out number that nobody would take seriously, considering the gravity of the consequences. I mean, if the guy had said a Trillion, clearly that would be outlandish and crazy, but a million just isn't all that much any more, so it just doesn't seem unreasonable.

howdyyall9999: //i hope he has to pay court costs for the frivolous lawsuit

I wouldn't call it frivolous? Was there reason to believe the offer was invalid?

Forbidden Doughnut: "I've argued in front of every judge in this state. Often as a lawyer."

Damn! Beat me to it! Was just about to post his pic.

Shakespeare's Monkey: FTFA: Mason just better hope that the judge in the murder trial doesn't allow the prosecution to admit Kolodziej's video into evidence.

The lawyer might weasel out of the million bucks, but his client will fry.

You got that right. He's been convicted and sentenced to death for the murders.

Did he really have to drive the route? Couldn't it have been proven with basic mapping software, mileage, and speed limit estimates?

I meean with addresses you can plot point to point and see distance and estimated times.

Seems like a grunt in the slimy lawyers office could have done the legwork before he opened his big mouth.

Haven't you always wanted a monkey?