If convicted, both men would face...dishonorable discharge.

/giggity

What jerks, taking pics of fellow soldiers while they showered.

Hope they get significant time in PMITA showers.

/Although they'll probably only get Article 15s.

This is why women don't belong in the service....unless they are there to "service" me.

Captain Spillman still in Nome, Alaska, unavailable for comment.

Major Woody didn't have a problem with this...

should have known that isn't what Fort Dix is about

That's RIGHT! Remember when Richard Dix tried to come in and take over this town?!?

AirForceVet: What jerks, taking pics of fellow soldiers while they showered.

Hope they get significant time in PMITA showers.

/Although they'll probably only get Article 15s.

They've been charged: That means court martial, if I recall correctly.

Though a field grade Article 15 would be pretty nasty also. Here are the relevant punishments:

* Restriction for not more than 60 days
* Extra duties for not more than 45 days
* Restriction with extra duties for not more than 45 days
* Correctional Custody for not more than 30 days (only if accused is in the grades E-3 and below)
* Forfeiture of one half of base pay for two months
* Reduction by one grade if E-5 (all services) or E-6 (all services except USMC) or reduction to E-1 (USA and USAF E-4 and below.)
* Admonition or reprimand, either written or verbal.


You can make a come-back from a summary or even a company grade Article 15, but it's *MUCH* tougher from a field grade.

dittybopper: You can make a come-back from a summary or even a company grade Article 15, but it's *MUCH* tougher from a field grade.

Who the hell would even bother?

At least they weren't gay.

sepuku2: dittybopper: You can make a come-back from a summary or even a company grade Article 15, but it's *MUCH* tougher from a field grade.

Who the hell would even bother?

That's the point, apparently.

I'll be perfectly honest: I received three summary Article 15's in my military career. One was for leaving a locker unlocked, one was for having a bottle of schnapps in my room, and one was technically for drinking while underage, but it was really because I was drinking on the roof of the barracks (there is a saga attached to that last one).

Despite that, I still managed to get my Good Conduct Medal and ETS as an E-4.

tnpir: should have known that isn't what Fort Dix is about

That's RIGHT! Remember when Richard Dix tried to come in and take over this town?!?


Was he under Colonel Angus?

I'll need to look at the video to decide on this one. Link?

"You gotta get a girl's permission before you tape her."

Girls in Camo/Fatigues thread?

I can't recall very many (if any) female soldiers I met in my Army career who I'd want to see in the shower.

dittybopper: but it was really because I was drinking on the roof of the barracks

On the roof? Seems like they would have gone for the highest level...*rimshot*

(there is a saga attached to that last one).

do tell!

GTFO.

Good to see the dumb asses STILL haven't learned, hasn't there been at least two other incidents at Fort Dix involving inappropriate relationships with trainees? Must have slipped their memories or something...

oldernell: At least they weren't gay.

came to say this

psychicmachinery: Girls in Camo/Fatigues thread?

I sure hope so. I say that Israeli military women are hideous. Who's going to prove me wrong? On a separate note, women in bikini's are nearly always fat and unattractive.


/is it still trolling if its for a good cause?

Israeli military women pics in 3....2.....1......

BeefyT: If convicted, both men would face...dishonorable discharge.

/giggity

What exactly makes it dishonorable? When you don't tell her? When it goes in her eye or up her nose?

Somebody needs to clarify these things.

/Hotter than the Negev Desert

what a couple of dix

dittybopper:
Despite that, I still managed to get my Good Conduct Medal and ETS as an E-4.

I'm very curious as to how that happened. In the Marines, we have to serve 3 full years without any NJP/Article 15/Office Hours/What-Have-You in order to get our good cookie. No, really, is it different for each service?

Two Dogs Farking: Captain Spillman still in Nome, Alaska, unavailable for comment.

Damn! Beat me to it!

/Uncle Hulka?

EmperorSled: BeefyT: If convicted, both men would face...dishonorable discharge.

/giggity

What exactly makes it dishonorable? When you don't tell her? When it goes in her eye or up her nose?

Somebody needs to clarify these things.

Tying off the condom and FedExing it to the Pope wouldn't be dishonorable, would it? Disgusting, maybe but not dishonorable.

And the ranks are a SGT and a SPC, unlike what subby wants you to believe and even tho I had not read the article prior to my last comment, it's still pretty close to true.

pechek: /Hotter than the Negev Desert

It worked!

I say that farkettes have unflattering busts and are too idiotic to know how to email pics of them. Whos going to prove me wrong?

Isn't this the kind of behavior they want to prevent by keeping gays out?

westbound pachyderm

In the Marines, we have to serve 3 full years without any NJP/Article 15/Office Hours/What-Have-You in order to get our good cookie. No, really, is it different for each service?

Someone (not us) has a provision for special rules during certain kinds of deployment or summat.

AF or Army, I think.

GRANDGALACTICINQUISITOR: pechek: /Hotter than the Negev Desert

It worked!

I say that farkettes have unflattering busts and are too idiotic to know how to email pics of them. Whos going to prove me wrong?

lol

Chicks within Dix?

Facetious_Speciest: westbound pachyderm

In the Marines, we have to serve 3 full years without any NJP/Article 15/Office Hours/What-Have-You in order to get our good cookie. No, really, is it different for each service?

Someone (not us) has a provision for special rules during certain kinds of deployment or summat.

AF or Army, I think.

I think it's Army... If you can't meet the standards, lower them. Navy & USMC rules are the same for GCM.

umm subby... one was a specky
notwithstanding, if pornography distribution is UCMJ-able me and mrs bastard are gonna be in a little bit of trouble.
/different duty stations

Ahhh, now these soldiers will surely be penalized.

Penal.

Penal.

tennnnn-HUT!

pre-PAAAARRRE FORRRRR in-SERT-shunnnnnn.

AngryJailhouseFistfark: Ahhh, now these soldiers will surely be penalized.

Penal.

Penal.

tennnnn-HUT!t UP

pre-PAAAARRRE FORRRRR in-SERT-shunnnnnn.

FTFY

What female privates might look like:

dittybopper: AirForceVet: What jerks, taking pics of fellow soldiers while they showered.

Hope they get significant time in PMITA showers.

/Although they'll probably only get Article 15s.

They've been charged: That means court martial, if I recall correctly.

Though a field grade Article 15 would be pretty nasty also. Here are the relevant punishments:

* Restriction for not more than 60 days
* Extra duties for not more than 45 days
* Restriction with extra duties for not more than 45 days
* Correctional Custody for not more than 30 days (only if accused is in the grades E-3 and below)
* Forfeiture of one half of base pay for two months
* Reduction by one grade if E-5 (all services) or E-6 (all services except USMC) or reduction to E-1 (USA and USAF E-4 and below.)
* Admonition or reprimand, either written or verbal.


You can make a come-back from a summary or even a company grade Article 15, but it's *MUCH* tougher from a field grade.

I was given 30 days of Correctional Custody (boot camp re-do), an Article 15 and a Section 8/Honorable Discharge.
/so I'm getting a kick out of this!

tnpir: should have known that isn't what Fort Dix is about

That's RIGHT! Remember when Richard Dix tried to come in and take over this town?!?

I came here for this. Harrumph.

/hotBONNNGGG

"If convicted, both men would face imprisonment, demotion and dishonorable discharge. "

WOW, from a promising career in Law Enforcement after they got out tooo "Do you want cheese with that?" and even that's if they are lucky.

Well, Stupid is as Stupid does.

Good tag Subby.

dittybopper: sepuku2: dittybopper: You can make a come-back from a summary or even a company grade Article 15, but it's *MUCH* tougher from a field grade.

Who the hell would even bother?

That's the point, apparently.

I'll be perfectly honest: I received three summary Article 15's in my military career. One was for leaving a locker unlocked, one was for having a bottle of schnapps in my room, and one was technically for drinking while underage, but it was really because I was drinking on the roof of the barracks (there is a saga attached to that last one).

Despite that, I still managed to get my Good Conduct Medal and ETS as an E-4.

Ummmm, FYI this isn't leaving a locker unlocked...This is breaking the freakin LAW (Federal LAW), REALLY don't think they can recover a military career from this one... Trust me

dittybopper: sepuku2: dittybopper: You can make a come-back from a summary or even a company grade Article 15, but it's *MUCH* tougher from a field grade.

Who the hell would even bother?

That's the point, apparently.

I'll be perfectly honest: I received three summary Article 15's in my military career. One was for leaving a locker unlocked, one was for having a bottle of schnapps in my room, and one was technically for drinking while underage, but it was really because I was drinking on the roof of the barracks (there is a saga attached to that last one).

Despite that, I still managed to get my Good Conduct Medal and ETS as an E-4.

Not that hard to bounce back from a "Field Grade" if you are on a 4 or 6 year enlistment and it happens early in your career. I was always told it would keep you from reaching E-7 though. Hehe I got a Company Grade for having Copenhagen in my wall locker in Basic. Only trouble I had in my entire career. Still extra duty sux especially in basic training.

GRANDGALACTICINQUISITOR: pechek: /Hotter than the Negev Desert

It worked!

I say that farkettes have unflattering busts and are too idiotic to know how to email pics of them. Whos going to prove me wrong?

What's with all the dead noise in this thread? Focus, people. Focus! Somebody needs to answer the challenge.

/also wouldn't mind more pics of hot military type women.
//sort of a "what an attractive female soldier that these guys would have taken pics of might look like."

It depends alot on the circumstances, where you are in your enlistment, and what exactly they decide to do to you. It also depends on how much you choose to fight it. If they take the article 15 from this they'll still likely end up with an honorable discharge and probably be offered reenlistment. Though since it made national news I doubt it stops there. This is going before a court martial.

I've actually seen people get hit with a full fledged courtmartial be found guilty and still retire with full benfiets. That guy did take a serious beating though heavy pay docking and some extra duty, busted from senior master down to staff. Retired 3 years later as a tech.

Our fathers came across the prairies, fought Indians, fought drought, fought locusts, fought Dix... remember when Richard Dix came in here and tried to take over this town? Well, we didn't give up then... and by gum, we're not going to give up now!

clipperbox: tnpir: should have known that isn't what Fort Dix is about

That's RIGHT! Remember when Richard Dix tried to come in and take over this town?!?


Was he under Colonel Angus?

westbound pachyderm: dittybopper:
Despite that, I still managed to get my Good Conduct Medal and ETS as an E-4.

I'm very curious as to how that happened. In the Marines, we have to serve 3 full years without any NJP/Article 15/Office Hours/What-Have-You in order to get our good cookie. No, really, is it different for each service?

No.

First, summaries don't follow you to a new unit (at least they didn't back then). That means that the new unit has no idea whether you had them or not. Kind of a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

Second, in a 4 year hitch there is enough time to amass 3 solid years of being a good boy while still having had your pee-pee slapped thrice.