Damn! It's getting to the point where you are no longer allowed to be a good neighbor. Honestly, calling the police because someone is mowing your lawn. What's next?

Bathia_Mapes: Damn! It's getting to the point where you are no longer allowed to be a good neighbor. Honestly, calling the police because someone is mowing your lawn. What's next?

The question I'd have that the article lacks is "Did he do a good job?" If somebody cut my grass for free, no matter how drunk they were I don't think I'd complain if they did it right.

Police said they found Goode just after 5:30 a.m. with the mower at the home.

So the guy was drunk and mowing before dawn?

nekom: The question I'd have that the article lacks is "Did he do a good job?" If somebody cut my grass for free, no matter how drunk they were I don't think I'd complain if they did it right.

But at 5:30 AM? I don't think I'd be happy being woke up that early after a long holiday week-end.

yes, he was operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated...however, if he was on private property, I'm not sure how it works in Washington if the charges will stand.

Seems to me it would at least be a trespassing charge based on the article.

Burn_The_Plows: But at 5:30 AM? I don't think I'd be happy being woke up that early after a long holiday week-end.

True but on the other hand, it would mean you don't have grass to cut.

I will give this guy 20 bucks and a case of Yuengling to mow my back yard.

slayer199: yes, he was operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated...however, if he was on private property, I'm not sure how it works in Washington if the charges will stand.

Seems to me it would at least be a trespassing charge based on the article.

Since the property owner called the police, I'm pretty sure the charges will stand.

slayer199: yes, he was operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated...however, if he was on private property, I'm not sure how it works in Washington if the charges will stand.

Seems to me it would at least be a trespassing charge based on the article.

MADD is an incredibly powerful lobby and borderline batshiat crazy. Even their own founder stepped down because the organization has gotten out of control. In NJ, all the state has to prove is that you had intention of driving a motor vehicle (and here, even a motorized Razor scooter counts, so I would wager riding mowers would, too). So if you're caught drunk on private property--even your own--with keys in your pocket or in the vehicle, you get a DUI.

I'll see your neighbors and raise you a neighbor's.

I would buy this neighbor some beer and ask if he could in the future try to do it after dawn.

Looking for 'Get Off My Lawn' pics...

/left disappointed

Bathia_Mapes: Damn! It's getting to the point where you are no longer allowed to be a good neighbor. Honestly, calling the police because someone is mowing your lawn. What's next?

If he was being a good neighbor, I'm sure there wouldn't have been a problem. However, since according to the article "There had been "issues" between Goode and the homeowner in the past," I would imagine he was just being a douche.

You don't mow another guy's lawn.

""Believe it or not, if you are operating a riding lawnmower it is considered a motor vehicle under state statue," Wells Police Lt. Gerald Congdon said."

Cool. this guy should keep that in mind and drive his mower on the roads. When the cops give him crap, which they will, he can tell them the mower is considered a motor vehicle under state statue and he's not breaking the speed limit.

Tony Scott nearly killed Denzel's career with major dog Deja Vu, so I don't know why Washington would work with him again anyway.

I would like to have my neighbor arrested for mowing his lawn every day.

Awesome... two felonies for essentially being a drunk nuisance. I'm betting one of the "previous arrests" was also a lame felony charge, and, with the "three strikes" laws, this guy will get a mandatory life sentence... for operating a lawn mower.

Yeah, this is the system we have now. But, at least we're safe from those darned terrorists, right?

Craklyn: I'll see your neighbors and raise you a neighbor's.



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/hot

You see this is the kind of thing that pisses me off! Not exactly the situation in the article as I agree with an earlier post that early in the morning is the deal breaker. BUT DWI is bad news for your record and a cop could have used a bit more common sense in this matter. Also I mow riding with a beer in hand so I thinks if a cop wanted to try this with me we might just head to stand off territory just to make it worth his and my while! Really who am I a danger to on a 2 MPH lawnmower whether I'm piss drunk or dead sober?

ihatedumbpeople

""Believe it or not, if you are operating a riding lawnmower it is considered a motor vehicle under state statue," Wells Police Lt. Gerald Congdon said."

Cool. this guy should keep that in mind and drive his mower on the roads. When the cops give him crap, which they will, he can tell them the mower is considered a motor vehicle under state statue and he's not breaking the speed limit.


Okay, but what about under state statute? Same deal?

Sapper_Topo: You see this is the kind of thing that pisses me off! Not exactly the situation in the article as I agree with an earlier post that early in the morning is the deal breaker. BUT DWI is bad news for your record and a cop could have used a bit more common sense in this matter. Also I mow riding with a beer in hand so I thinks if a cop wanted to try this with me we might just head to stand off territory just to make it worth his and my while! Really who am I a danger to on a 2 MPH lawnmower whether I'm piss drunk or dead sober?

It isn't about danger or safety. It's about zero tolerance and conviction rates and fines. That's ALL it's about.

The lawn in question?



/Stay off it.

nekom: Bathia_Mapes: Damn! It's getting to the point where you are no longer allowed to be a good neighbor. Honestly, calling the police because someone is mowing your lawn. What's next?

The question I'd have that the article lacks is "Did he do a good job?" If somebody cut my grass for free, no matter how drunk they were I don't think I'd complain if they did it right.

That's the big thing, if they did it right. the guy was drunk, so he probably did a horrible job, missed spots, etc.

My ex neighbor would mow his back lawn about once a month, while I did mine once a week. We live on a lake, so the grass grows pretty well with the high water table. No big deal to me, just made my lawn that much nicer looking. Problem was, when he cut it he'd cut it as short as the mower could go (likely because he was lazy as hell)

Once or twice he crossed over our property lines and scuffed up my lawn pretty good, digging up dirt in a few bumpy spots. Had to lay down the hammer on that guy a few times. Idiot. Plus he always seemed to mow (once a month) immediately after I finished my lawn, so he's blow his grass all over my yard and driveway. I'd just whip out the 300mph blower and blow it back on his yard...

"Believe it or not, if you are operating a riding lawnmower it is considered a motor vehicle under state statue,"

If I'm drunk, I'm pretty sure that it's gonna end up under my riding lawnmower, not vice-versa.

brigid_fitch: So if you're caught drunk on private property--even your own--with keys in your pocket or in the vehicle, you get a DUI.

That's farked up... I always have my keys in my pocket, drunk or otherwise. The same keyring has my house key and others attached.

This is why I have a push mower

Dad! What are you doing?
You crop dusted the wrong field.
I did?
The field is on the other side of town you dumbass.

/scene from a scifi movie
//may not be exact wording

By some folks' logic around here, it is perfectly acceptable to be shiatfaced drunk and drive a car on a neighbor's yard... or through a shopping mall.

ihatedumbpeople: Once or twice he crossed over our property lines and scuffed up my lawn pretty good, digging up dirt in a few bumpy spots. Had to lay down the hammer on that guy a few times. Idiot. Plus he always seemed to mow (once a month) immediately after I finished my lawn, so he's blow his grass all over my yard and driveway. I'd just whip out the 300mph blower and blow it back on his yard...

At first, you sounded like a complete douche. I then saw that you live in Virginia. Enough said.

wmoonfox: Awesome... two felonies for essentially being a drunk nuisance. I'm betting one of the "previous arrests" was also a lame felony charge, and, with the "three strikes" laws, this guy will get a mandatory life sentence... for operating a lawn mower.

Yeah, this is the system we have now. But, at least we're safe from those darned terrorists, right?

Depends on what you consider a lame felony charge. 3rd DWI in 10 years, I think it is, is a felony here. I hardly consider that a lame felony charge. Dude already lost his license as a habitual offender. He's drunk at 5:30 AM and screwing with his neighbor. He's a waste of flesh. fark him.

brigid_fitch: slayer199: yes, he was operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated...however, if he was on private property, I'm not sure how it works in Washington if the charges will stand.

Seems to me it would at least be a trespassing charge based on the article.

MADD is an incredibly powerful lobby and borderline batshiat crazy. Even their own founder stepped down because the organization has gotten out of control. In NJ, all the state has to prove is that you had intention of driving a motor vehicle (and here, even a motorized Razor scooter counts, so I would wager riding mowers would, too). So if you're caught drunk on private property--even your own--with keys in your pocket or in the vehicle, you get a DUI.

Same here in CT. All they have to do is prove you had the intention to operate. So if you're legally drunk and have the keys in your pocket you can go to the hokey.

So if you go drive your car to a bar, get drunk, take a cab or WALK home because you know you're drunk and don't want to drive, you can be arrested, prosicuted, and convicted for DWI. All because you had your car keys in your pocket.

And good luck getting this stupid law changed - a lot of people are up in arms about it but no politician is going to propose a law change on this because of the MADD lobby.

Ugh, so retarded...

ihatedumbpeople: Cool. this guy should keep that in mind and drive his mower on the roads. When the cops give him crap, which they will, he can tell them the mower is considered a motor vehicle under state statue and he's not breaking the speed limit.

They will then proceed to give him two dozen tickets for not having a current inspection sticker, no insurance, improper lights, no seat belt, etc etc etc, then impound the vehicle because it's not registered.

filter: By some folks' logic around here, it is perfectly acceptable to be shiatfaced drunk and drive a car on a neighbor's yard... or through a shopping mall.

Yeah, because that's what we're talking about here. I don't have a problem with a citation for disturbing the peace or something, but DWI is pretty farking uncalled for. Maybe you want to live in a world where everyone is punished for every infraction with the maximum the law allows, but I don't.

Beeblebrox: wmoonfox: Awesome... two felonies for essentially being a drunk nuisance. I'm betting one of the "previous arrests" was also a lame felony charge, and, with the "three strikes" laws, this guy will get a mandatory life sentence... for operating a lawn mower.

Yeah, this is the system we have now. But, at least we're safe from those darned terrorists, right?

Depends on what you consider a lame felony charge. 3rd DWI in 10 years, I think it is, is a felony here. I hardly consider that a lame felony charge. Dude already lost his license as a habitual offender. He's drunk at 5:30 AM and screwing with his neighbor. He's a waste of flesh. fark him.

Are you able to run faster without your empathy, compassion, or sense of justice?

CaesarSneezy: Beeblebrox: wmoonfox: Awesome... two felonies for essentially being a drunk nuisance. I'm betting one of the "previous arrests" was also a lame felony charge, and, with the "three strikes" laws, this guy will get a mandatory life sentence... for operating a lawn mower.

Yeah, this is the system we have now. But, at least we're safe from those darned terrorists, right?

Depends on what you consider a lame felony charge. 3rd DWI in 10 years, I think it is, is a felony here. I hardly consider that a lame felony charge. Dude already lost his license as a habitual offender. He's drunk at 5:30 AM and screwing with his neighbor. He's a waste of flesh. fark him.

Are you able to run faster without your empathy, compassion, or sense of justice?

I have no empathy or compassion for drunks who keep driving.

ihatedumbpeople: nekom: Bathia_Mapes: Damn! It's getting to the point where you are no longer allowed to be a good neighbor. Honestly, calling the police because someone is mowing your lawn. What's next?

The question I'd have that the article lacks is "Did he do a good job?" If somebody cut my grass for free, no matter how drunk they were I don't think I'd complain if they did it right.

That's the big thing, if they did it right. the guy was drunk, so he probably did a horrible job, missed spots, etc.

My ex neighbor would mow his back lawn about once a month, while I did mine once a week. We live on a lake, so the grass grows pretty well with the high water table. No big deal to me, just made my lawn that much nicer looking. Problem was, when he cut it he'd cut it as short as the mower could go (likely because he was lazy as hell)

Once or twice he crossed over our property lines and scuffed up my lawn pretty good, digging up dirt in a few bumpy spots. Had to lay down the hammer on that guy a few times. Idiot. Plus he always seemed to mow (once a month) immediately after I finished my lawn, so he's blow his grass all over my yard and driveway. I'd just whip out the 300mph blower and blow it back on his yard...

jesus christ...you are SUCH a douchebag.

filter: By some folks' logic around here, it is perfectly acceptable to be shiatfaced drunk and drive a car on a neighbor's yard... or through a shopping mall.

By MY logic, I SHOULD be able to drive around drunk on my own property (40 acres). Why should someone have the right to stop me from doing that? If I was to get on a PUBLIC road, arrest me. If I'm on MY property, kindly go fark yourself.

i'd mow my neighbor's lawn, but the wife wouldn't look too kindly on that.

CaesarSneezy: Sapper_Topo: You see this is the kind of thing that pisses me off! Not exactly the situation in the article as I agree with an earlier post that early in the morning is the deal breaker. BUT DWI is bad news for your record and a cop could have used a bit more common sense in this matter. Also I mow riding with a beer in hand so I thinks if a cop wanted to try this with me we might just head to stand off territory just to make it worth his and my while! Really who am I a danger to on a 2 MPH lawnmower whether I'm piss drunk or dead sober?

It isn't about danger or safety. It's about zero tolerance and conviction rates and fines. That's ALL it's about.

Agreed! On a side note up in this neck of the woods (and make no mistake I live in small town USA) if you see someone driving down the road on a lawn mower or an ATV there is a good chance they got a DUI. You have never seen anything as funny as an old man driving his John Deere lawn tractor to the grocery store when it's 15 below outside. Or sad?

Beeblebrox: CaesarSneezy: Beeblebrox: wmoonfox: Awesome... two felonies for essentially being a drunk nuisance. I'm betting one of the "previous arrests" was also a lame felony charge, and, with the "three strikes" laws, this guy will get a mandatory life sentence... for operating a lawn mower.

Yeah, this is the system we have now. But, at least we're safe from those darned terrorists, right?

Depends on what you consider a lame felony charge. 3rd DWI in 10 years, I think it is, is a felony here. I hardly consider that a lame felony charge. Dude already lost his license as a habitual offender. He's drunk at 5:30 AM and screwing with his neighbor. He's a waste of flesh. fark him.

Are you able to run faster without your empathy, compassion, or sense of justice?

I have no empathy or compassion for drunks who keep driving.

In 10 years MADD will have the terms "driving" and "drunk" so horribly farked up that you'll be getting a DWI if you take a swig of mouthwash in your office chair.

GanjSmokr: By MY logic, I SHOULD be able to drive around drunk on my own property (40 acres). Why should someone have the right to stop me from doing that? If I was to get on a PUBLIC road, arrest me. If I'm on MY property, kindly go fark yourself.

Out of context comment is out of context.

So, according to TFA, I need a drivers license to operate a lawn mower?

Scruffinator: So, according to TFA, I need a drivers license to operate a lawn mower?

Faulty inference is faulty.

DUI for a lawnmower. At some point these MADD fanatics have to have some sense beaten into them.

spacechicken170am: Beeblebrox: CaesarSneezy: Beeblebrox: wmoonfox: Awesome... two felonies for essentially being a drunk nuisance. I'm betting one of the "previous arrests" was also a lame felony charge, and, with the "three strikes" laws, this guy will get a mandatory life sentence... for operating a lawn mower.

Yeah, this is the system we have now. But, at least we're safe from those darned terrorists, right?

Depends on what you consider a lame felony charge. 3rd DWI in 10 years, I think it is, is a felony here. I hardly consider that a lame felony charge. Dude already lost his license as a habitual offender. He's drunk at 5:30 AM and screwing with his neighbor. He's a waste of flesh. fark him.

Are you able to run faster without your empathy, compassion, or sense of justice?

I have no empathy or compassion for drunks who keep driving.

In 10 years MADD will have the terms "driving" and "drunk" so horribly farked up that you'll be getting a DWI if you take a swig of mouthwash in your office chair.

Which has nothing to do with what I was saying, but whatever.

LittleSmitty: This is why I have a push mower

Don't worry I am sure the group MADW will be formed soon (Mothers Against Drunk Walking).

Mongo cut wood: Dad! What are you doing?
You crop dusted the wrong field.
I did?
The field is on the other side of town you dumbass.

/scene from a scifi movie
//may not be exact wording

I believe that was from Independence Day...

Beeblebrox: spacechicken170am: Beeblebrox: CaesarSneezy: Beeblebrox: wmoonfox: Awesome... two felonies for essentially being a drunk nuisance. I'm betting one of the "previous arrests" was also a lame felony charge, and, with the "three strikes" laws, this guy will get a mandatory life sentence... for operating a lawn mower.

Yeah, this is the system we have now. But, at least we're safe from those darned terrorists, right?

Depends on what you consider a lame felony charge. 3rd DWI in 10 years, I think it is, is a felony here. I hardly consider that a lame felony charge. Dude already lost his license as a habitual offender. He's drunk at 5:30 AM and screwing with his neighbor. He's a waste of flesh. fark him.

Are you able to run faster without your empathy, compassion, or sense of justice?

I have no empathy or compassion for drunks who keep driving.

In 10 years MADD will have the terms "driving" and "drunk" so horribly farked up that you'll be getting a DWI if you take a swig of mouthwash in your office chair.

Which has nothing to do with what I was saying, but whatever.

Seeing as how you condone excessive penalties for things, Yes it does, so whatever times two.

kpottruff: LittleSmitty: This is why I have a push mower

Don't worry I am sure the group MADW will be formed soon (Mothers Against Drunk Walking).

It's already illegal to be drunk in public. Just be careful where you mow...

The cop was like, "Mr. White, you are being charged with drunk in public-KA!" I was like, "Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey! I was drunk in a bar! They, threw me into public-KA! I don't want to be drunk in public-KA! I wanna be drunk in a bar, which is perfectly legal! Arrest them!"

My neighbor doesn't drink but I think he'd do a much better job of mowing my lawn if he was drunk. He couldn't do a much worse job. But he mows my lawn so who gives a fark? Better than me doing it.

spacechicken170am: Beeblebrox: spacechicken170am: Beeblebrox: CaesarSneezy: Beeblebrox: wmoonfox: Awesome... two felonies for essentially being a drunk nuisance. I'm betting one of the "previous arrests" was also a lame felony charge, and, with the "three strikes" laws, this guy will get a mandatory life sentence... for operating a lawn mower.

Yeah, this is the system we have now. But, at least we're safe from those darned terrorists, right?

Depends on what you consider a lame felony charge. 3rd DWI in 10 years, I think it is, is a felony here. I hardly consider that a lame felony charge. Dude already lost his license as a habitual offender. He's drunk at 5:30 AM and screwing with his neighbor. He's a waste of flesh. fark him.

Are you able to run faster without your empathy, compassion, or sense of justice?

I have no empathy or compassion for drunks who keep driving.

In 10 years MADD will have the terms "driving" and "drunk" so horribly farked up that you'll be getting a DWI if you take a swig of mouthwash in your office chair.

Which has nothing to do with what I was saying, but whatever.

Seeing as how you condone excessive penalties for things, Yes it does, so whatever times two.

What do you feel is an appropriate punishment for a habitual drunk driver?

mytdawg: My neighbor doesn't drink but I think he'd do a much better job of mowing my lawn if he was drunk. He couldn't do a much worse job. But he mows my lawn so who gives a fark? Better than me doing it.

Careful, people have lost parts of their property when someone else continually took care of it.

spacechicken170am: In 10 years MADD will have the terms "driving" and "drunk" so horribly farked up that you'll be getting a DWI if you take a swig of mouthwash in your office chair.

10 years? Hell, they're already so farked up that cops arrest people and charcge them with DUI for being drunk in their motorized wheelchair. Sometimes they even confiscate the "vehicle"

Beeblebrox: What do you feel is an appropriate punishment for a habitual drunk driver?

What does your question have to do with this particular incident?

spacechicken170am: In 10 years MADD will have the terms "driving" and "drunk" so horribly farked up that you'll be getting a DWI if you take a swig of mouthwash in your office chair.

In 10 years, thanks to MADD (and the public's inability to think critically), the legal BAC will be .04, probable cause (for the stop) will have a DUI exception, and a second offense will be a felony as well as carry a charge of attempted murder.

GoldSpider: Beeblebrox: What do you feel is an appropriate punishment for a habitual drunk driver?

What does your question have to do with this particular incident?

Nothing. I was asking a question of someone who made a statement. Try to keep up or not just read the last line of a comment.

Want to come over to my house?

/Mr. Scholarship Winner
//it looks good on me, though

Beeblebrox: Nothing.

So you're thread-jacking... and apparently an irate douche to boot.

ChadM89: probable cause (for the stop) will have a DUI exception,

They've already got an exception to this: Sobriety Checkpoints, aka suspicionless stops (new window)

Beeblebrox: spacechicken170am: Beeblebrox: spacechicken170am: Beeblebrox: CaesarSneezy: Beeblebrox: wmoonfox: Awesome... two felonies for essentially being a drunk nuisance. I'm betting one of the "previous arrests" was also a lame felony charge, and, with the "three strikes" laws, this guy will get a mandatory life sentence... for operating a lawn mower.

Yeah, this is the system we have now. But, at least we're safe from those darned terrorists, right?

Depends on what you consider a lame felony charge. 3rd DWI in 10 years, I think it is, is a felony here. I hardly consider that a lame felony charge. Dude already lost his license as a habitual offender. He's drunk at 5:30 AM and screwing with his neighbor. He's a waste of flesh. fark him.

Are you able to run faster without your empathy, compassion, or sense of justice?

I have no empathy or compassion for drunks who keep driving.

In 10 years MADD will have the terms "driving" and "drunk" so horribly farked up that you'll be getting a DWI if you take a swig of mouthwash in your office chair.

Which has nothing to do with what I was saying, but whatever.

Seeing as how you condone excessive penalties for things, Yes it does, so whatever times two.

What do you feel is an appropriate punishment for a habitual drunk driver?

I don't think the punishments are too far off base, but I think "drunk driver" needs to be redefined as not to include lawnmower operators, people with keys in their pockets, and let's up the BAC level so it doesn't include people who had a glass of wine or a couple beers.

CaesarSneezy: Beeblebrox: spacechicken170am: Beeblebrox: spacechicken170am: Beeblebrox: CaesarSneezy: Beeblebrox: wmoonfox: Awesome... two felonies for essentially being a drunk nuisance. I'm betting one of the "previous arrests" was also a lame felony charge, and, with the "three strikes" laws, this guy will get a mandatory life sentence... for operating a lawn mower.

Yeah, this is the system we have now. But, at least we're safe from those darned terrorists, right?

Depends on what you consider a lame felony charge. 3rd DWI in 10 years, I think it is, is a felony here. I hardly consider that a lame felony charge. Dude already lost his license as a habitual offender. He's drunk at 5:30 AM and screwing with his neighbor. He's a waste of flesh. fark him.

Are you able to run faster without your empathy, compassion, or sense of justice?

I have no empathy or compassion for drunks who keep driving.

In 10 years MADD will have the terms "driving" and "drunk" so horribly farked up that you'll be getting a DWI if you take a swig of mouthwash in your office chair.

Which has nothing to do with what I was saying, but whatever.

Seeing as how you condone excessive penalties for things, Yes it does, so whatever times two.

What do you feel is an appropriate punishment for a habitual drunk driver?

I don't think the punishments are too far off base, but I think "drunk driver" needs to be redefined as not to include lawnmower operators, people with keys in their pockets, and let's up the BAC level so it doesn't include people who had a glass of wine or a couple beers.

I don't disagree with any of that.

Posted right under this!
Want to really piss off your neighbors? Let people land their helicopters in your back yard.

I think the DUI charge came primarily from the statement that he'd driven the lawn tractor on the road from his house to the lawn in question...

If he'd kept his mouth shut....

Beeblebrox: spacechicken170am: Beeblebrox: spacechicken170am: Beeblebrox: CaesarSneezy: Beeblebrox: wmoonfox: Awesome... two felonies for essentially being a drunk nuisance. I'm betting one of the "previous arrests" was also a lame felony charge, and, with the "three strikes" laws, this guy will get a mandatory life sentence... for operating a lawn mower.

Yeah, this is the system we have now. But, at least we're safe from those darned terrorists, right?

Depends on what you consider a lame felony charge. 3rd DWI in 10 years, I think it is, is a felony here. I hardly consider that a lame felony charge. Dude already lost his license as a habitual offender. He's drunk at 5:30 AM and screwing with his neighbor. He's a waste of flesh. fark him.

Are you able to run faster without your empathy, compassion, or sense of justice?

I have no empathy or compassion for drunks who keep driving.

In 10 years MADD will have the terms "driving" and "drunk" so horribly farked up that you'll be getting a DWI if you take a swig of mouthwash in your office chair.

Which has nothing to do with what I was saying, but whatever.

Seeing as how you condone excessive penalties for things, Yes it does, so whatever times two.

What do you feel is an appropriate punishment for a habitual drunk driver?

It depends on how you define "drunk" and "driving". I don't think that DUI or DWI should have anything to do with riding a lawn mower drunk. A lawn mower is not capable of doing the damage associated with DUI and DWI laws therefore those punishments are far too severe. It is very difficult to run a red light and kill a family of 4 on a cub cadet. They are two very different things. This is why you need a liscense to drive a car and not a lawn mower. A car is far more dangerous. This guy wasn't even on the road. He was in his neighbor's lawn. You seem to advocate DUI as a punishment for this and all I did was take it one step furthur. Instead of it being a lawn mower I made it an office chair. Instead of being in a lawn I just moved it indoors. I also redifined "drunk" to mean any breathalyzer reading above 0. The point of my analogy is to show the disparity between the offense and the punishment. Typically, we like to have punishments fit the crimes in this country.

CaesarSneezy: Beeblebrox: spacechicken170am: Beeblebrox: spacechicken170am: Beeblebrox: CaesarSneezy: Beeblebrox: wmoonfox: Awesome... two felonies for essentially being a drunk nuisance. I'm betting one of the "previous arrests" was also a lame felony charge, and, with the "three strikes" laws, this guy will get a mandatory life sentence... for operating a lawn mower.

Yeah, this is the system we have now. But, at least we're safe from those darned terrorists, right?

Depends on what you consider a lame felony charge. 3rd DWI in 10 years, I think it is, is a felony here. I hardly consider that a lame felony charge. Dude already lost his license as a habitual offender. He's drunk at 5:30 AM and screwing with his neighbor. He's a waste of flesh. fark him.

Are you able to run faster without your empathy, compassion, or sense of justice?

I have no empathy or compassion for drunks who keep driving.

In 10 years MADD will have the terms "driving" and "drunk" so horribly farked up that you'll be getting a DWI if you take a swig of mouthwash in your office chair.

Which has nothing to do with what I was saying, but whatever.

Seeing as how you condone excessive penalties for things, Yes it does, so whatever times two.

What do you feel is an appropriate punishment for a habitual drunk driver?

I don't think the punishments are too far off base, but I think "drunk driver" needs to be redefined as not to include lawnmower operators, people with keys in their pockets, and let's up the BAC level so it doesn't include people who had a glass of wine or a couple beers.

Hehe had a buddy who got cited for what they call here APC (Actual Physical Control, think DUI lite) for doing the right thing and sleeping in his car outside of the bar and not driving home. License suspended and fines out the yahoo just like a DUI... Someone tell me cops arent overzealous!

Beeblebrox: I don't disagree with any of that.

I didn't think you would. Now apply the idea that people are arrested for those things all the time to the fact that he has previous arrests. Lame felonies become a much more reasonable possibility.

brigid_fitch: slayer199: yes, he was operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated...however, if he was on private property, I'm not sure how it works in Washington if the charges will stand.

Seems to me it would at least be a trespassing charge based on the article.

MADD is an incredibly powerful lobby and borderline batshiat crazy. Even their own founder stepped down because the organization has gotten out of control. In NJ, all the state has to prove is that you had intention of driving a motor vehicle (and here, even a motorized Razor scooter counts, so I would wager riding mowers would, too). So if you're caught drunk on private property--even your own--with keys in your pocket or in the vehicle, you get a DUI.

I'm aware of how powerful the MADD lobby is. The reason their founder stepped down is because they're neo-prohibitionists...

That isn't to say MADD didn't do some good things...they've just gone too far.

/best friend's sister was killed by a drunk driver
//guy had 3 prior DUIs
///only served 5 years for killing 2 people

GoldSpider: Beeblebrox: Nothing.

So you're thread-jacking... and apparently an irate douche to boot.

If that helps you sleep at night, sure.

Beeblebrox: mytdawg: My neighbor doesn't drink but I think he'd do a much better job of mowing my lawn if he was drunk. He couldn't do a much worse job. But he mows my lawn so who gives a fark? Better than me doing it.

Careful, people have lost parts of their property when someone else continually took care of it.

The lots are 30'x100'... There isn't much to take. He's got a rider because he's got two fake knees. It's a 5 minute job.

spacechicken170am: Typically, we like to have punishments fit the crimes in this country.

Give it up, man. You're pissing up a rope.

Englebert Slaptyback: ihatedumbpeople

""Believe it or not, if you are operating a riding lawnmower it is considered a motor vehicle under state statue," Wells Police Lt. Gerald Congdon said."

Cool. this guy should keep that in mind and drive his mower on the roads. When the cops give him crap, which they will, he can tell them the mower is considered a motor vehicle under state statue and he's not breaking the speed limit.


Okay, but what about under state statute? Same deal?

That too dammit.

Ctrl-Alt-Del: spacechicken170am: In 10 years MADD will have the terms "driving" and "drunk" so horribly farked up that you'll be getting a DWI if you take a swig of mouthwash in your office chair.

10 years? Hell, they're already so farked up that cops arrest people and charcge them with DUI for being drunk in their motorized wheelchair. Sometimes they even confiscate the "vehicle"

Say what?

That's insane.

Ctrl-Alt-Del: ihatedumbpeople: Cool. this guy should keep that in mind and drive his mower on the roads. When the cops give him crap, which they will, he can tell them the mower is considered a motor vehicle under state statue and he's not breaking the speed limit.

They will then proceed to give him two dozen tickets for not having a current inspection sticker, no insurance, improper lights, no seat belt, etc etc etc, then impound the vehicle because it's not registered.

So they state has to change the definition of a 'motor vehicle' or come up with a class of motor vehicles that aren't passenger vehicles for the statute to apply.

Then they'll probably get the wise idea to make you register them like cars and have you take lawnmower driver's safety classes.

RaavynnValkyrie: Ctrl-Alt-Del: spacechicken170am: In 10 years MADD will have the terms "driving" and "drunk" so horribly farked up that you'll be getting a DWI if you take a swig of mouthwash in your office chair.

10 years? Hell, they're already so farked up that cops arrest people and charcge them with DUI for being drunk in their motorized wheelchair. Sometimes they even confiscate the "vehicle"

Say what?

That's insane.

A friend of mine said he knew a guy who got a DUI for operating a motorized wheelchair. No word on what the consequences were, or even if the guy was disabled (but we'll assume he was). But yeah, that is pretty insane. And as much as I enjoy the "exercise" get from mowing my lawn, I don't think I'd be too mad if someone mowed it for me once and did a good job of it.

/although I'd prefer if they edged it
//I'm terrible at edging

I think there must be some sort of weird favoritism for Seacoast online. The stories feature alcohol exclusively. I lived there, all there is to do is drink. It's NE sop. Fark however greenlights every single story from there.

ihatedumbpeople: ""Believe it or not, if you are operating a riding lawnmower it is considered a motor vehicle under state statue," Wells Police Lt. Gerald Congdon said."

Cool. this guy should keep that in mind and drive his mower on the roads. When the cops give him crap, which they will, he can tell them the mower is considered a motor vehicle under state statue and he's not breaking the speed limit.

And he'll get a ticket for not having a license plate and insurance.

How does he win again?

One correction on the Fark headline:

In New England there is no "DWI". That's for you midwestern and other-parts-of-the-country fairies. NE has "DUI". Driving under the influence.

And we have no intention of changing it.

And I believe it's still a misdemeanor, just below "overdue library books".

Beeblebrox: I hardly consider that a lame felony charge.

You realize it's highly likely that the perp not only hurt no one, but took ten years to not-do it three times. This is about the lamest felony I can think of.

GoldSpider: spacechicken170am: Typically, we like to have punishments fit the crimes in this country.

Give it up, man. You're pissing up a rope.

Oh yeah, well maybe I'm pissing in the ocean trying to raise the water level.

//so bored

FTFA- There had been "issues" between Goode and the homeowner in the past, according to Congdon.
I'm bettin' they'll really have some "issues" now.

As someone who has run out of beer in the middle of a good bender and driven the riding mower to the gas station for more, I'm getting a kick out of some of these replies.

/No, no DUI's
//I knew better than to drive a real vehicle in that condition
///Cops cruised along side of me chatting on the way back.

kpottruff: LittleSmitty: This is why I have a push mower

Don't worry I am sure the group MADW will be formed soon (Mothers Against Drunk Walking).

Drunk Walking is already illegal. If you get caught walking home from the bar you get picked up for drunk and disorderly / public intoxication. Depending on the state, you can still get fines and jail time. It really just depends on how much of a prick the cop wants to be.

Walking home? Crime. Sleeping it off in the parking lot? Gonna' get your ass busted for a DUI anyway. Might as well just try to drive.

Man this DUI shiat has gotten out of hand. It was supposed to be about keeping dangerous people off the roads. How the fark is driving a mower going 5mph to kill someone? These biatch ass cops just want to keep finding a way to make more money to support keeping them employeed. I thought it was an awesome idea when the city of Columbus threatened to cut 300 cops from the force lately. We have so many farking cops anymore that they are just sitting around looking for shiat to make up.

I'm waiting for the guy with the self propelled push lawnmower to get a DUI. The way things are going it won't be long now.

ihatedumbpeople: So they state has to change the definition of a 'motor vehicle' or come up with a class of motor vehicles that aren't passenger vehicles for the statute to apply.

Then they'll probably get the wise idea to make you register them like cars and have you take lawnmower driver's safety classes.

This will blow a lot of minds on here. In many states, the DUI statute doesn't even require the vehicle be motorized. For example, in Florida Statute 316.193 (titled Driving under the influence; penalties.--) starts out saying:

"(1) A person is guilty of the offense of driving under the influence and is subject to punishment as provided in subsection (2) if the person is driving or in actual physical control of a vehicle within this state and: ..."

Therefore ANY vechicle can get you a DUI, including bicycles.