PianoJosh: ...NASA can start working on Europa...

Not so much, I think. All the other moons are ours, though.

Victoly: PianoJosh: ...NASA can start working on Europa...

Not so much, I think. All the other moons are ours belong to us, though.

FTFY

Wasn't that launch GREAT!?

Travlar: Their website is showing a broadcast time of 6:40pm pacific, or maybe I'm just reading it wrong. anyone know whats going on?

It said 3:40 PDT earlier.

shiat. Wrong thread.

durr hurr

eqtworld: omg wtf bbq

Meh, they do this every time.

eqtworld: )

Not working for me either. Firefox 3.0

PsyLord: So about as successful as the missile defense system that we are paying for?

your an idiot.

eqtworld: Manic_Repressive: eqtworld: omg wtf bbq

Meh, they do this every time.

so there is no feed?

Is there any place on the web to watch the launch? Is this even the right time?

Apparently it is delayed for 2 or 3 hours.

eqtworld: Zamboro: Am I alone in believing that NASA should never have dropped the Delta Clipper project?

I'm an Orion fan myself (new window)

I never got the clipper project, the amount of fuel it would have used would have reduced efficiency making it worse than conventional landers

Dude, way cool. Thanks for posting that.

"4:01pm PDT: Webcast pending--please check back for updates."

eqtworld: "I'm an orion fan myself:

As am I. It's a shame NERVA didn't perform as well as expected. It would have been a more sensible solution than Orion imo.

However it only makes sense to use it for propulsion between the planets. I'm envisioning something like the Discovery or the Leonid, a reusable missions platform with plenty of redundant supplies of oxygen, water and food so that we don't have any repeats of Apollo 13.

jfarkinB: Victoly: PianoJosh: ...NASA can start working on Europa...

Not so much, I think. All the other moons are ours belong to us, though.

FTFY

NIGIRTFT

/ No, I got it right the first time
// "All these worlds" are ours
/// "All your base" are belong to us

for those looking for a feed - CNN seems to be active. Last status says it was scrubbed due to weather again. Starting to feel sorry for the astronauts at this point. can anyone confirm?

Somaticasual: for those looking for a feed - CNN seems to be active. Last status says it was scrubbed due to weather again. Starting to feel sorry for the astronauts at this point. can anyone confirm?

I think you're in the wrong launch thread. STS-127 scrubbed for today, but Falcon 1 is still go.

Webcast is at least loading now. No content yet though.

Jesus Christ, just light the candle and move on already. Imagine if the airline industry was run this way...???

Bacontastesgood: UtileDysfunktion: I will readily admit to not following the space program closely, but I may not be wrong here:

As I recall, in recent years, a NASA rocket (probably an Atlas) carrying a commercial satellite payload had to be destroyed because it was going astray. "Horribly off course" implies that it was never going to make it to orbit. Also as I recall, this was just one of a string of commercial launch failures (again, this was a few years ago).

Insurers might have been looking at recent success-to-failure ratios rather than using figures from over decades. If I were in my seventies or eighties and started having a string of auto accidents, I doubt my insurance company would look to see what my lifetime average was before canceling my policy.


You are getting even further from reality now:

No, I really think I'm pretty firmly grounded in reality here.

Atlas III and V vehicles have a 100% success rate. So, the specific vehicle you mentioned, over a decade. Insurers are not stupid.

I don't recall mentioning a specific vehicle. I said it was probably an Atlas. I have no idea if it was an Atlas I, II , III or XIX. I wouldn't know the difference, so why would I even try to cite a specific model?

Look, just admit you heard or read something and either got it wrong or the source was full of crap. NASA* doesn't do as much commercial satellite stuff anymore because they are damn expensive, not because their rockets are blowing up too often.

Oh... I'd being willing to bet that my memory serves me better than your sense of superiority.

I will also point out that the space shuttle has a 98% success rate, so the Delta % I quoted is about the worst commercial stuff that NASA does.

I have no idea what that means.

*By the convention "NASA" I assume that we are talking about the complex of Boeing, Rocketdyne, LockMart, etc vehicles launched at KSC.

Duh.

1930PDT?

sheesh. make up your mind!

Hnakrapunt: Telcom... isn't that the satellite thats raining debris all over Europe?

/Obscure?

Why do you think I'm all brains, no penis?

scandalrag: Hnakrapunt: Telcom... isn't that the satellite thats raining debris all over Europe?

/Obscure?

Why do you think I'm all brains, no penis?

Can you hammer a 6 inch spike through a board....?

UtileDysfunktion: I have no idea what that means.

This is pretty much all you needed to say from the very beginning.

Bacontastesgood: UtileDysfunktion: I have no idea what that means.

This is pretty much all you needed to say from the very beginning.

Pfffft. I have encountered greatness.

Tater1337: oh geez no one is gonna read this far anyway

well I do know of one rocket this past saturday that i would have bet money on failing. no the videos are not up yet, here is a pre launch pic



Uh, that looks like a section of culvert with some plywood fins. You first...

drsmith: Jesus Christ, just light the candle and move on already. Imagine if the airline industry was run this way...???

You ever shoot bottlerockets at someone's car? You ever shoot bottlerockets at someone's beer can across a corn field?

It's kinda hard to aim these flying bombs...

Latest update from SpaceX:

5:32 pm PDT: Estimated T-zero at 7:30pm PDT

For those who want some extra info check this site they have a live blog about the launch

Nobody hangs out in space because its too expensive to get there. If SpaceX succeeds, the cost of launching stuff into orbit will decrease more than 50% almost immediately. This is BIG! If you care in any away about humanity doing cool things in space, this is the company to be rooting for.

Launch in one hour

Will the Borg shoot this one down too?

SpaceX? that's right in my backyard. The last time they had a rocket test it freaked out all the residents in Waco. Idiots (the Wacoans...not SpaceX)

Delta 2 has the worlds record for successful launches in a row.
Presently at 88 and counting!!!!!! I think about 142 out of 143 launches since 1987.
And when we did blow one up it's good enough to get on Fox's best explosions!!!

DELTA 2 is the best ever -too bad our country is throwing it away for sparrow 1/5/9 and the other paper rocket Taurus 2...

// tested all D2's prop/hyd systems.

// Last GPS next month.

// A few more commercial and science payloads to go.

T-30 minutes. There's a good feed at Spacevidcast

psperl:

When Space X has to do all the stupid government stuff the
rest of us have to it will be as least as expensive!!

/I know...seen it cheap turned into expensive....

Rocketdude:

I really hope you are wrong about that, but having been an engineer for a gigantic military industrial company, I understand where you're coming from.

Cameron_Talley: SpaceX? that's right in my backyard. The last time they had a rocket test it freaked out all the residents in Waco. Idiots (the Wacoans...not SpaceX)

Ha I remember that night. But this McGregor is just a test facility not a launch site, so the actual rocket I belive will be fired from either California or Florida.

Frankiesuicide: Cameron_Talley: SpaceX? that's right in my backyard. The last time they had a rocket test it freaked out all the residents in Waco. Idiots (the Wacoans...not SpaceX)

Ha I remember that night. But this McGregor is just a test facility not a launch site, so the actual rocket I belive will be fired from either California or Florida.

Falcon 1s are launched from an island in the Pacific. Their next launch, a Falcon 9, will be from Florida

psperl:

I hope I'm wrong too -but it's getting really stupid out there anymore.

TSE: An Orion launch from the ground would burn a farking hole in the atmosphere. We need to develop a space elevator first so we can build Orion ships in orbit.

The fallout would kill a few people (*IF* the linear hypothesis is right--there's a good chance it's not and the expected death toll would be zero) but it won't burn a hole in the atmosphere.

drsmith: Jesus Christ, just light the candle and move on already. Imagine if the airline industry was run this way...???

Rockets are built as light as possible. That means they don't build them to take weather while in flight.

The Bestest: Frankiesuicide: Cameron_Talley: SpaceX? that's right in my backyard. The last time they had a rocket test it freaked out all the residents in Waco. Idiots (the Wacoans...not SpaceX)

Ha I remember that night. But this McGregor is just a test facility not a launch site, so the actual rocket I belive will be fired from either California or Florida.

Falcon 1s are launched from an island in the Pacific. Their next launch, a Falcon 9, will be from Florida

Thanks,

Launch is delayed for another half hour.

shot's up
t minus 30 min

That wind looks WAY to strong for them to launch. No way it's going to happen, or if it does, I predict disaster.

/Hope for the best though.

Tater1337: "oh geez no one is gonna read this far anyway"


What is this "read" of which ye speak? I am come seeking pix of astounding funnel and tooter-tube homemade rokkitz.

Happy exploderating!

Maybe they can make that banner on the bottom a little bigger so that the rest of the screen doesn't block it.

Drakin020: That wind looks WAY to strong for them to launch. No way it's going to happen, or if it does, I predict disaster.

/Hope for the best though.

Looks like an ordinary tropical breeze to me.

The T countdown has begun at the Live Stream. Footage is rolling. 24 minutes remaining.

Thunder showers approaching...

bloody typical for today!

/god doesn't want any rocket launches today it seems

global wombats: Thunder showers approaching...

bloody typical for today!

/god doesn't want any rocket launches today it seems

Just rain showers.

Weather just confirmed no Thunderstorms on the way. Just light rain. Which isn't a problem.