uatuba: X-boxershorts: libbynomore2: I think you punks should STFU and QYB'ing....I mean you're bending over and letting Obama do far worse to your future.


money you cannot has

debts you will has.......plenty

get used to it.

Don't forget the 700 BILLION that Bush's administration wasted bailing out Goldman Sachs.

Debts we have are plenty indeed. And deficit spending during a recession is an historically proven economic strategy. it's just never been done on this scale since...well...the "Great Depression".

Using the Great Depression and Roosevelt's actions as a way to support the rationale behind the recent economic "stimulus" packages is a losing strategy.

Actually, it's a near perfect model. Especially the early tax cut Rooosevelt was duped into enacting in 34? 36? It wound up triggering a second serious recessionary dip. You see, tax cuts in times when revenue had been lost and not recovered wound up crippling the economy, again.

And don't forget Nixon, Reagan, Both Bush's and Clinton all had to engage in deficit spending on their watch.

Milton Friedman's theories, while popular and logical on the surface, are impractical to implement in real life.

Poo_Fight: aiiee: U r a idiot.

U r a 12 year old?

Most people here are familiar with the 'Your a idiot' catch-phrase.

Wow. Lots of butt-hurt among the Generation X crowd today.

If you were born in the 70s or later, you've had it better than your parents did. If you went to college, 99% of you had at least some of that expense paid for by your parents.

Your reaction? Die soon, motherfarker.

Fortunately, the courts don't seem to agree with you. I weep for my grandchildren.

Ask yourself: Have I ever provided for someone? ...taken care of/for someone?

If not, please keep your negativity away from the conversation because all you have to add is inconsequential and childish rage. Sorry if mommy didn't love you enough, but you've contributed nothing of your own either, have you? Buhbye!

Gecko Gingrich: Research Borderline Personality Disorder

My dad once exploded at me for answering the question "do you want to be taller?" incorrectly when I was 15. And by "exploded," I mean screamed and bellowed at me for being a biatch for not caring about my height.

When I was a kid, he consistently yelled at me, accused me of not loving him enough, set up invisible lines that only he knew about but I was an ungrateful child if I crossed them. I learned at a young age that the only way to not be yelled at was to avoid him as much as possible. It didn't matter if I behaved. He would find a reason to rip my ego to shreds for even the smallest misunderstandings or perceived slights.

My dad never was physically abusive though.

I feel your pain.

Soylent Green,then the credit companies can eat me!

Poo_Fight: aiiee: U r a idiot.

U r a 12 year old?

I'm 12 and what is this?

Some Bass Playing Guy: When we raised our kids, we taught them that yes, you should go to college and find a good career, but find something that you love doing.

My parents (who are boomers) raised me that way, and I was lucky enough to be able to find a job like that.

I think it's because my grandparents didn't suffer too horribly in the great depression because they had large family farms.

\Both of my grandparent's families have been in America since the mid-1600s

larrycot: Wow. Lots of butt-hurt among the Generation X crowd today.

If you were born in the 70s or later, you've had it better than your parents did. If you went to college, 99% of you had at least some of that expense paid for by your parents.

Your reaction? Die soon, motherfarker.

Fortunately, the courts don't seem to agree with you. I weep for my grandchildren.

You weep for your grandchildren because you taught us how to be parents. You taught us that kids are more trouble than they're worth - to give 'em a flashy toy or send them to extra cirriculars and they'll shut up. You taught us to work so much you're never home and tried to teach us that life sucks and greed is good from the day we first opened our eyes. I weep for your grandchildren too but it is tears of joy -- most of us will never do to our children (if we have them ) what you did to us.

Gecko Gingrich: Border Line Personality Disorder

so, because you have daddy issues, all Boomers are evil? Doesn't sound like you're being very responsible or honest either...

So what happens if the post-boomers just stop taking out loans? You know, no more cars... Saving up for houses... Living within our means... Will they force us to borrow?

When my parents are no longer able to live independently, they'll come and live with me (and my hubby and kids). I used to volunteer at a nursing home and it was the most awful and depressing thing I've ever seen. I'm not sure why Americans moved away from multiple generations living in one home (post-WWII economy?) but I think it's great to have family close so we can take care of each other. My parents have always supported me and I return the favor out of love, not a sense of obligation.
/naive woman, please don't flame me
/k thx

tchamber: Yes, because that's all us baby boomers are looking to do with our lives - screw our kids.

Go and fark yourself, submitter. And stay the fark off my lawn.

That does sounds like typical human behaviour. fark everyone else, try to seem consistent by blaming location, age, race, wealth, appearance or success.

Don't deny it.

gadian: most of us will never do to our children (if we have them ) what you did to us.

Except, most of the times we find ourself doing what our parents did to us.

I am supprised how quickly this thread turned ugly.


/I hope to do as good a job with my kids as my parents did with me.

I told my parents, "If you wanted someone to look after you when you're old, you should have looked after someone when they were young."

FUUUUHK YOUUUUUUU, worthless sacks o' shiit.

Likuid000: You dickheads already f*cked most everything else up. Saddled the next three generations with your debts, are draining social security...just hurry up and die already

Ha-ha!
Good times.
Thanks.

This is complete and utter BS.

Respect your elders? Yeah. When you respect US. When you stop telling my wife and I we are raising our kids wrong. When you give back the 40k you stole from my college fund so you could buy yourselves a camper, simply because I went to Baylor U instead of the local U-Wisconsin campus.

Most of all, when you call once every other month biatching that we never call you. You know what? You have a phone too. Learn to use it. You want to know why we disprespect you? Because a good portion of you old farts out there, whether you want to beleive it or not, where VERY BAD PARENTS.

Wifey and I are starting the disowning process tommorrow to escape paying my mother's medical bills, that we know are huge because she can't stop talking about it after showing us her new $2000 tv or $3000 alienware computer she plays solitare on.

I have a question, and I'm not sure if it's been asked yet, but...

...Why isn't Grant suing Fichera? I'm sure there is a legal reason why he could, seeing as how he's just been saddled her with bills which she is refusing to pay.

Let's take another step back - why wasn't Fichera sued in the first place? Why did they have to go after her kids?

Frankly, this law sucks. I'm a little worried about it, being that I live in PA, my in-laws are getting up there in age, and my own parents (even though they're young) don't have much money. If anything was to happen to any of them, knowing that I could potentially be in the hole kinda scares me.

The Baby Boomers were responsible for 80s culture.


/and also "That 80s Show."
//burn 'em, I say.

Yes Sound: gadian: most of us will never do to our children (if we have them ) what you did to us.

Except, most of the times we find ourself doing what our parents did to us.

I am supprised how quickly this thread turned ugly.


This is fark, not the Disney site. Any surprise over ugliness and bitterness is entirely inappropriate. Fark is full of bitter, blame-driven people who want somebody else to be responsible for the train wreck that is their life.

rocketkitty: When my parents are no longer able to live independently, they'll come and live with me (and my hubby and kids).


And that's how it's always worked. Good for you.

TeleComplainer: This is complete and utter BS.

Respect your elders? Yeah. When you respect US. When you stop telling my wife and I we are raising our kids wrong. When you give back the 40k you stole from my college fund so you could buy yourselves a camper, simply because I went to Baylor U instead of the local U-Wisconsin campus.

BWAHAHAHAHAAA

Just a question...... Who put the money in your college fund?

I thought so. You're butt-hurt because your parents didn't pay extra for you to go out of state? fark you you little entitled piece of shiat.

If only your dad had beat your ass a little more often when you were young...

Bobby Teenager: The Baby Boomers were responsible for 80s culture."


THIS. The "Get Rich or Die Trying" culture.

...which was a product of mid to late 70's economics


/...and a whole lot of cocaine

Nemo's Brother: If you loved your kids, you would just die already. You and your kind have made America a worse place than when you were given the keys. You are the first generation to do this as well. Please die!

You ungrateful farking bastard.

You act as though you took nothing away from all the benefits you enjoyed bought by the money that was spent. You were raised with the highest living standards in the world, had access to the finest health care, education, culture, and security. But when it became time for you to pay back that debt, including your portion of Social Security and Medicaid, you were such a failure that a guy living in a third world country could do your job better than you are able.

What a farking disappointment you all turned out to be.
Live with it - it's that personal responsibility thing.

RemyDuron: Technology and society began to advance at such a rate that elders began to appear not only stodgy and strict, which they always were, but often ignorant and bigoted compared to the youth. Instead of being the keepers of knowledge, elders became more like lost and angry children in a world they could no longer understand. Tradition, instead of being unifying, became constrictive and divisive and seemingly pointless.

that sounds like a book, a scary, sad book

TAAAANK!

rocketkitty: When my parents are no longer able to live independently, they'll come and live with me (and my hubby and kids). I used to volunteer at a nursing home and it was the most awful and depressing thing I've ever seen. I'm not sure why Americans moved away from multiple generations living in one home (post-WWII economy?) but I think it's great to have family close so we can take care of each other. My parents have always supported me and I return the favor out of love, not a sense of obligation.
/naive woman, please don't flame me
/k thx

You are working on the assumption that the bad kids are turning away their poor parents. Think again. My mom is slowing becoming less able to care for herself, and my sister (who lives in the same town as me), WANTS her to move in. Mom refuses, because she doesn't want to move to a different town. My bro would take her in, too, but she doesn't want to live with his (well-behaved) stepkids. She won't live with me because I'm not in her hometown, either. So she is just not dealing with her loss of independence. But it's not because her kids are SOBs.

Likuid000: You dickheads already f*cked most everything else up. Saddled the next three generations with your debts, are draining social security...just hurry up and die already

TFA: The Havertown man is nearly 50 and struggling to pay his mortgage and $100,000 in student loans incurred by his daughter, a recent Albright College grad.

Because, apparently, only parents incur huge debts, the childeren never, ever do.

//Get off my lawn
/// AND pay for your own education!

Nemo's Brother: If you loved your kids, you would just die already.

One more thing...

As tough for you to face the truth as I know it is, it was your side of the political aisle that spent this money and created this catastrophe.

You own it - all of it.

this is relevant to me because i leech off of my dad's credit if you want to screw yourself name you kids your name aka jr, 3rd so on. credit companies fail to look at whos who. yay me.

ciocia: Yes Sound: gadian: most of us will never do to our children (if we have them ) what you did to us.

Except, most of the times we find ourself doing what our parents did to us.

I am supprised how quickly this thread turned ugly.


This is fark, not the Disney site. Any surprise over ugliness and bitterness is entirely inappropriate. Fark is full of bitter, blame-driven people who want somebody else to be responsible for the train wreck that is their life.

Dammit I forgot, but for some reason, I just can't look away.

cehlen: Does anyone know if this law can be enforced in Ohio or Virginia?

If the judgement is entered in Pennsylvania, then they would domesticate the judgement either in Ohio or Virginia. And thanks to the full faith and credit clause, the creditor would be able to collect under the laws of those states.

That out of the way, let this be proof that boomers have to be collectively the biggest assholes ever spawned. After all their hedonism in the 60's they gave us zero tolerance policies, mandatory sentences, amoking bans, and DUI checkpoints. Not content with that, they expect following generations to keep Medicare and Social Security solvent. Not even content with that, they'll stick their kids with their bills.

Just farking die already

gadian: Our parents told us to get an education, but never taught us how to value an education. Our parents told us to get a good job without ever explaining what that was. Our parents told us to love our family without teaching us what family meant. Our parents missed out on us growing up because we did so while they were staying late at work. Because of that, we'll always be children to them. And now our parents are surprised that we're callous, cold, and confused?

You're right. The produced a whiner. Partial fail.

GSD4Ever: This is the very reason I have my Mossberg and three shells readily available.

three?? really I have full clip myself. In case the rugrat runs.

So today I'm the corporate parasite and tomorrow I'm the patchouli poster boy? Here's a news flash - "respect" means to look again, or "second sight" if you will; the art of seeing beneath the surface of things to discern more than face value. Any person who says "you are all this way" is ignorant and blind, especially if it's "you are all that way" tomorrow. Practise a little discernment.

I didn't see the law in question being cited. What law? Some law in another country? From centuries ago? How is a law in another country being used in a court in this country?

I'm no lawyer. I just want one to splane it to me.

Lorelle: Did anyone bother to read the article? It's about a Boomer whose mother is screwing him over by not paying her medical bills, and whose daughter is screwing him over by not paying back her student loans.

why RTFA when we can go off as we are..This is Fark we dont RTFA..

This is pretty much nationwide - and in South Dakota the nursing homes even go after WOOKIES!!

Random Reality Check:
You act as though you took nothing away from all the benefits you enjoyed bought by the money that was spent. You were raised with the highest living standards in the world, had access to the finest health care, education, culture, and security. But when it became time for you to pay back that debt, including your portion of Social Security and Medicaid, you were such a failure that a guy living in a third world country could do your job better than you are able.


None of this will never, ever, ever replace parental love, affection and attention. We don't farking care about all this. This is all "stuff". If given a choice between "things" and parental love and attention, we'd much rather have the parental love and attention. That is all we wanted.

This is what the Boomers don't seem to understand. You have to stop thinking of this in terms of tangible objects. And then they wonder why the younger generations are so angry at them...

I would not mind supporting my mother. My father can DIAF though. He is the biggest asshole I ever met. My mother just had a "huge" party for his 65th birthday. Guess how many of his eight children attended? Zero.

entitled:
You're right. The They produced a whiner. Partial fail.

FTFM

X-boxershorts:

Actually, it's a near perfect model. Especially the early tax cut Rooosevelt was duped into enacting in 34? 36? It wound up triggering a second serious recessionary dip. You see, tax cuts in times when revenue had been lost and not recovered wound up crippling the economy, again.

And don't forget Nixon, Reagan, Both Bush's and Clinton all had to engage in deficit spending on their watch.

Milton Friedman's theories, while popular and logical on the surface, are impractical to implement in real life.

You won't find many economists who agree with you. Almost all economists agree that FDR's actions directed toward the economy prolonged the Great Depression.

I don't disagree with deficit spending...but it can be overdone. And it is being overdone, currently.

My boomer dad is way more financially responsible than I can even dream of being.

Random Reality Check: Nemo's Brother: If you loved your kids, you would just die already. You and your kind have made America a worse place than when you were given the keys. You are the first generation to do this as well. Please die!

You ungrateful farking bastard.

You act as though you took nothing away from all the benefits you enjoyed bought by the money that was spent. You were raised with the highest living standards in the world, had access to the finest health care, education, culture, and security. But when it became time for you to pay back that debt, including your portion of Social Security and Medicaid, you were such a failure that a guy living in a third world country could do your job better than you are able.

What a farking disappointment you all turned out to be.
Live with it - it's that personal responsibility thing.

Wait, what? We owe you? This is a joke, right? We owe you for the second rate schools and hypocritical politicians? Soylent Green's starting to sound mighty tasty...

RemyDuron: IronTom: Whatever happened to respect your elders?

Technology and society began to advance at such a rate that elders began to appear not only stodgy and strict, which they always were, but often ignorant and bigoted compared to the youth. Instead of being the keepers of knowledge, elders became more like lost and angry children in a world they could no longer understand. Tradition, instead of being unifying, became constrictive and divisive and seemingly pointless.

THIS!

/thread over.....

EdgeRunner: wee: That's a mighty wide brush some of you are painting the US population with...

Most Internet debates depend on painting everyone with wide brushes. Just reference any "Spiritualists vs. Atheists" argument, or "Conservatives vs. Liberals" wankfest. The xenophobia and provincialism displayed by all sides is often astounding.

It's no surprise a lot of this "conversation" is largely dominated by idiots slapping the tiresome "young is better, old is stupid" brush around, while getting spanked right back with the "old is better, young is stupid" paint roller. It's like watching a Mentos commercial duke it out with an Old Spice ad, only not as entertaining.

/we should all get along. Mentos and Old Spice both taste relatively the same, and neither is safe to swallow with Diet Coke

old spice? your lawn will probably be owned by the state soon.

larrycot:
Sure some of you (as I did) put yourselves through college.

THE VAST MAJORITY DID NOT. So please go find your peers who sucked on the parental teat and blame them. Until then, just shut up and open your checkbook. Every good thing that happened from birth until you moved the fark out of your parent's house had a price. Once you've paid every nickel of that back, you can biatch. Until then, just shut up and give. Just like your parents did for you.

Kids don't owe their parents a damn thing. The parents made the decision to create them and they made every single decision on what to provide for them. I will take care of my parents because I want to, not out of some sense of repaying a debt.

cmb53208: That out of the way, let this be proof that boomers have to be collectively the biggest assholes ever spawned. After all their hedonism in the 60's they gave us zero tolerance policies, mandatory sentences, amoking bans, and DUI checkpoints. Not content with that, they expect following generations to keep Medicare and Social Security solvent. Not even content with that, they'll stick their kids with their bills.

Just farking die already

This. The baby boomers, as a generation, have taken more--and given back less--than any generation in history. A hundred years from now, society will still be paying off the debt they've rung up, cleaning up the environmental mess they've made, and repairing the social damage their "Me! Me! ME!" attitudes have done to the entire world.

Shrinkwrap: My boomer dad is way more financially responsible than I can even dream of being.

Pretty much this. He had saved enough for all three of his kids, including my half-sister, to go to college free of charge. (I was the only one who took him up on the offer.) Now, the economy tanking in 2001 did put a dent in the account, so he made me a deal: I finish school, and he'll pay back my student loans. And he did.

I'm kind of glad my parents were the kind, supportive sort. And because they're financially responsible, I'll not have to worry about their debts when the die. Hell, they're already saving up for my daughters' college tuition.

gadian: parents missed out on us growing up because we did so while they were staying late at work. Because of that, we'll always be children to them.


Wow. That helps explain why some old people repeat the same joke over and over and over again over the years to their adult "children" and still expect the joke to be funny.