ASlyLittleFox: No seriously, just think about it for a minute - if he gets a second term, and three years in, the economy starts to recover (I know it's wishful thinking, leave me alone), and then he gets up and says "You know what? I AM a Muslim now." Would be the biggest "fark you" to right-wing fundies ever; the only way to top that would be if he did that and then immediately turned around and made out with Rush's mom.

If he wanted to give an even bigger "fark you" to the right-wing fundies, he'd convert to atheism.

neilbradley: Well, most of the religious types would get a beatdown mandated by law, which really wouldn't be a bad thing for all the shiat they've put the world through.

so you're butthurt about something that happened centuries ago?

you're worse than the idiots who ask current admins of assorted nations to apologise for what their forefathers did many moons ago

illogical morons like you need to be shackled and ridiculed along with fundies

WhyteRaven74: willicus: Typical lib. Can't answer my comments (because, deep down, you know I'm right), so you use that tired 'fixed it' meme. Maybe you should look in the mirror, lol

You may want to try to be factually accurate first. Like dropping the whole Obama is Moslem thing.

He's a dirty Chicago pol. I'm not saying he's not a citizen, but look at the facts. His father and stepfather were Moslems. He was born into it. And once a Moslem, always a Moslem

willicus: WhyteRaven74: willicus: Typical lib. Can't answer my comments (because, deep down, you know I'm right), so you use that tired 'fixed it' meme. Maybe you should look in the mirror, lol

You may want to try to be factually accurate first. Like dropping the whole Obama is Moslem thing.

He's a dirty Chicago pol. I'm not saying he's not a citizen, but look at the facts. His father and stepfather were Moslems. He was born into it. And once a Moslem, always a Moslem

And yet... he went to a radical Christian church for years. So, was he a true believer of that? Or just faking?

NEDM: And yet... he went to a radical Christian church for years. So, was he a true believer of that? Or just faking?

you know that right wingnutts don't count any church that would allow black people into it as a real Christian church.

SomeoneDumb: I'm no gun hater (have a few), but for the life of me I can't imagine few things more boring than a call-in radio show about firearms.

Is Alaska, really, that boring?

I can't imagine a call-in show about anything physical that wouldn't be boring.

Sarah Palin is about as deep and transparent as a snippet of cling wrap.

Palin hints at plan to splinter republican party?

God I love this incredibly stupid woman.

Alphax: I can't imagine a call-in show about anything physical that wouldn't be boring.


i would think that a call in show about butt plugs and nipple piercings would be very interesting.

cardex: NEDM: And yet... he went to a radical Christian church for years. So, was he a true believer of that? Or just faking?

you know that right wingnutts don't count any church that would allow black people into it as a real Christian church.

Sooo.... he is a secret Ra worshiper?

NEDM: No. Because that might be the thing that motivates the potential snipers to get off their fat asses.

Sure, but what's a horrific national tragedy next to a really good 'your mom' joke?

Besides, too many people in this country have too many retarded ideas about Islam. After the initial shock, once people realize that a Muslim president isn't driving the country into the ground, Islam may finally get some decent press on this side of the Atlantic, which would do leagues of good towards reducing the ignorance and xenophobia towards the religion. Could you imagine? A world where everyone on the other side of the planet isn't seen as some kind of infidel sub-human?


But also it would be a really good 'your mom' joke.

NEDM: Sooo.... he is a secret Ra worshiper?

no Ra was killed in the movie, he probably worships Apophis or Sokar

willicus: He was born into it. And once a Moslem, always a Moslem

So by that logic anyone before jesus goes right to hell, yes? I've always wanted to party with noah

ASlyLittleFox: But also it would be a really good 'your mom' joke.

Your mom is a secret Muslim. Huh huh huh!

Hmm...doesn't quite have the right ring to it.

at80eighty: So by that logic anyone before jesus goes right to hell, yes? I've always wanted to party with noah

There is no logic.

at80eighty: willicus: He was born into it. And once a Moslem, always a Moslem

So by that logic anyone before jesus goes right to hell, yes? I've always wanted to party with noah

Actually, yeah, anyone before Jesus goes to hell. Original sin, etc. That's.... that's sort of why he died on the cross, was so our sins would be purified and we all wouldn't have to go to hell anymore.

at80eighty: willicus: He was born into it. And once a Moslem, always a Moslem

So by that logic anyone before jesus goes right to hell, yes? I've always wanted to party with noah

You forgot that Jesus descended into Hell after his crucifiction to lead the Jews who died before he was born into Heaven.

/was that ever mentioned anywhere else besides Inferno?

willicus: He was born into it.

Not really he wasn't. He wasn't raised in the faith at all. Being born to a Moslem father doesn't really mean jack when that father ups and leaves so early on. Also, Obama isn't entirely liked by the Chicago pols. He went straight for state office then the US Senate. No local political office at all. On top of it no political appointments.

ASlyLittleFox: Original sin, etc

Original sin is a Christian invention.

was so our sins would be purified and we all wouldn't have to go to hell anymore.

That's also something tacked on well after the fact.

Actually, yeah, anyone before Jesus goes to hell. Original sin, etc. That's.... that's sort of why he died on the cross, was so our sins would be purified and we all wouldn't have to go to hell anymore.

so everyone that lived for the first 98000 years of human history went right to hell and now only the 20% of the world population that believe exactly what you do have any chance of not going there.......something does not add up with this but i cant put my finger on it.

NEDM: You forgot that Jesus descended into Hell after his crucifiction to lead the Jews who died before he was born into Heaven.

/was that ever mentioned anywhere else besides Inferno?

Was it all the jews? I thought he only grabbed one or two big names, but my knowledge is all sort of off-hand so I'm not really sure.

anfrind: Your mom is a secret Muslim. Huh huh huh!

Hmm...doesn't quite have the right ring to it.

Come on, he's the President, you know he's got the resources to pull it off.

NEDM: at80eighty: willicus: He was born into it. And once a Moslem, always a Moslem

So by that logic anyone before jesus goes right to hell, yes? I've always wanted to party with noah

You forgot that Jesus descended into Hell after his crucifiction to lead the Jews who died before he was born into Heaven.

/was that ever mentioned anywhere else besides Inferno?

Didn't Billy Baldwin mention it in Backdraft?

ragekage: skookum: I'm warning you again, liberals, leave these people alone, after all, they will be ruling your country very very soon. You might want to drop the snark and show some respect voluntarily while you still have the optoin.

B-b-b-b-but decent is the highest form of patriotic!

THIS!

cardex: Actually, yeah, anyone before Jesus goes to hell. Original sin, etc. That's.... that's sort of why he died on the cross, was so our sins would be purified and we all wouldn't have to go to hell anymore.

so everyone that lived for the first 98000 years of human history went right to hell and now only the 20% of the world population that believe exactly what you do have any chance of not going there.......something does not add up with this but i cant put my finger on it.

Is it that your length of human history is off by 92000 years?

cardex: Actually, yeah, anyone before Jesus goes to hell. Original sin, etc. That's.... that's sort of why he died on the cross, was so our sins would be purified and we all wouldn't have to go to hell anymore.

so everyone that lived for the first 98000 years of human history went right to hell and now only the 20% of the world population that believe exactly what you do have any chance of not going there.......something does not add up with this but i cant put my finger on it.

That belief is part of the reason fundies aren't liked amongst other christians. Who decides which aspect of Christianity is the "right" one?

Personally, though, I believe that the virtuous non-believers also get into heaven. I mean, while Buddhist monks don't believe in God, they are doing God's work. And preaching God's message(Peace and love towards your fellow man).

ASlyLittleFox: NEDM: You forgot that Jesus descended into Hell after his crucifiction to lead the Jews who died before he was born into Heaven.

/was that ever mentioned anywhere else besides Inferno?

Was it all the jews? I thought he only grabbed one or two big names, but my knowledge is all sort of off-hand so I'm not really sure.

I dunno. I really don't feel like searching through my copy of the Divine Comedy to find out.

ASlyLittleFox: Actually, yeah, anyone before Jesus goes to hell. Original sin, etc.

well i was talking of a place where one does the whole molten sulphur spa; getting porked in the shiatter by satan's redhot trident holiday package - not the Abrahamic Bosom palce

NEDM: You forgot that Jesus descended into Hell after his crucifiction to lead the Jews who died before he was born into Heaven.

/was that ever mentioned anywhere else besides Inferno?

Catholicism iirc . and I find it silly that Moses would have to spend a few millenia waiting before he could go upstairs

NEDM: Personally, though, I believe that the virtuous non-believers also get into heaven. I mean, while Buddhist monks don't believe in God, they are doing God's work. And preaching God's message(Peace and love towards your fellow man).



/sorry, couldn't resist

at80eighty: Catholicism iirc . and I find it silly that Moses would have to spend a few millenia waiting before he could go upstairs

Eh. Might be a bit of more punishment for the Golden Calf incident.

anfrind: NEDM: Personally, though, I believe that the virtuous non-believers also get into heaven. I mean, while Buddhist monks don't believe in God, they are doing God's work. And preaching God's message(Peace and love towards your fellow man).



/sorry, couldn't resist

...and he has something to do with that how?

anfrind: Is it that your length of human history is off by 92000 years?

depending on what numbers you use, early stone age is about 300,000 years ago, refined stone artifacts start showing up 200,000 years ago, but i was going by when the first permeate settlements started showing up 100,000 years ago.

NEDM: ...and he has something to do with that how?

He's not very big on loving your fellow man, forgiveness, peach and all that. And on top of it, he's Catholic.

WhyteRaven74: NEDM: ...and he has something to do with that how?

He's not very big on loving your fellow man, forgiveness, peach and all that. And on top of it, he's Catholic.

Ugh. Another CINO.

/yes, a Christian In Name Only

WhyteRaven74: ASlyLittleFox: Original sin, etc

Original sin is a Christian invention.

was so our sins would be purified and we all wouldn't have to go to hell anymore.

That's also something tacked on well after the fact.


What? Of course it's a- look:

at80eighty: willicus: He was born into it. And once a Moslem, always a Moslem

So by that logic anyone before jesus goes right to hell, yes? I've always wanted to party with noah


I'm not really sure how you saw my comment as irrelevant, but I'm just tryin' to help a brother out, man. Chill.

NEDM: /yes, a Christian In Name Only

yep

NEDM: ...and he has something to do with that how?

Just that the most vocal segments of "Christianity" in this country don't seem to have much interest in peace and love toward their fellow man.

cardex: anfrind: Is it that your length of human history is off by 92000 years?

depending on what numbers you use, early stone age is about 300,000 years ago, refined stone artifacts start showing up 200,000 years ago, but i was going by when the first permeate settlements started showing up 100,000 years ago.

I know. I was just giving you the same answer I would expect from a typical fundie.

NEDM: Eh. Might be a bit of more punishment for the Golden Calf incident.

I take it you're referring to the golden calf that was made in Moses' absence while up on Mt. sinai? the one he destroyed after coming back down?

why should Moses be punishable for that?

anfrind: One more, just for good measure:

I am sooo stealing that.

WhyteRaven74: NEDM: /yes, a Christian In Name Only

yep

As a devout Eastern Orthodox, people like that really irk me. They scream and rail against other people while ignoring the tenements of the religion that they are using as the high ground. I mean, a devout Christian would act NOTHING like the "Devout Christians" on TV, and they are the people who give my religion a bad name.

at80eighty: NEDM: Eh. Might be a bit of more punishment for the Golden Calf incident.

I take it you're referring to the golden calf that was made in Moses' absence while up on Mt. sinai? the one he destroyed after coming back down?

why should Moses be punishable for that?

I don't know. Just a thought. Old Testament God was not a real forgiving type, and might have held a grudge.

NEDM: Ugh. Another CINO.

/yes, a Christian In Name Only

I'm definitely going to have to remember that phrase.

NEDM: Personally, though, I believe that the virtuous non-believers also get into heaven.

yeah dude , i mean if Gandhi doesn't go to heaven , I kind feel I'm SOL

anfrind: Just that the most vocal segments of "Christianity" in this country don't seem to have much interest in peace and love toward their fellow man.

Yeah, but you've got to remember that you don't get into the news if you're not an asshole. Just because the only Christians we hear about are the Westbourough baptists doesn't mean that all - or even a majority of - Christians are fundamentalist, hate-driven, whackjobs. In fact, off the internet, I've found that the people I know who follow a Faith tend to be better people in general. (Though possibly that's because Im in an area full of hyper-liberal and overly-aggressive atheists, so who knows.)

Just remember, there's a segment of christians who hate their association with the right-wing extremists just as much as most of us hated being associated with the actions of BushCo.

NEDM: at80eighty: NEDM: Eh. Might be a bit of more punishment for the Golden Calf incident.

I take it you're referring to the golden calf that was made in Moses' absence while up on Mt. sinai? the one he destroyed after coming back down?

why should Moses be punishable for that?

I don't know. Just a thought. Old Testament God was not a real forgiving type, and might have held a grudge.

Could it have been bipolar disorder? (new window)

NEDM: I don't know. Just a thought. Old Testament God was not a real forgiving type, and might have held a grudge.

hah!

at80eighty: NEDM: Personally, though, I believe that the virtuous non-believers also get into heaven.

yeah dude , i mean if Gandhi doesn't go to heaven , I kind feel I'm SOL

Oh yeah. I personally believe that God doesn't look kindly at assholes who just go through the motions of being Christian to get into Heaven. Kinda ignores everything that Jesus preached.

ASlyLittleFox: Just remember, there's a segment of christians who hate their association with the right-wing extremists just as much as most of us hated being associated with the actions of BushCo.

There is one, right here!

ASlyLittleFox: anfrind: Just that the most vocal segments of "Christianity" in this country don't seem to have much interest in peace and love toward their fellow man.

Yeah, but you've got to remember that you don't get into the news if you're not an asshole. Just because the only Christians we hear about are the Westbourough baptists doesn't mean that all - or even a majority of - Christians are fundamentalist, hate-driven, whackjobs. In fact, off the internet, I've found that the people I know who follow a Faith tend to be better people in general. (Though possibly that's because Im in an area full of hyper-liberal and overly-aggressive atheists, so who knows.)

I am fully aware of that (hence the "most vocal segments" part of my comment). My own impression is that there's generally an inverse relationship between how loudly one proclaims one's beliefs and how closely one truly adheres to them.

Dinjiin: rburp: Is Whidbey every troll ever or something?

The name skookum may be derived from Skookumchuck River. Whidbey's own name comes from Whidbey Island. Both are geographical places within Washington State.

Maybe somebody thought that the two are linked because of those similarities.

It's less subtle than that. I think last election season, whidbey (who is slightly to the left of Mao) made a post as himself under skookum (who is slightly to the right of Ann Coulter).

So, basically, he accidentally outed himself. Same as McCainDemocrat/danlpoon (who famously replied to an inquiry as to his whereabouts with "I'm traveling"), save for the fact that the 'poon is an actual right-winger.

Switchblades: Dinjiin: rburp: Is Whidbey every troll ever or something?

The name skookum may be derived from Skookumchuck River. Whidbey's own name comes from Whidbey Island. Both are geographical places within Washington State.

Maybe somebody thought that the two are linked because of those similarities.

It's less subtle than that. I think last election season, whidbey (who is slightly to the left of Mao) made a post as himself under skookum (who is slightly to the right of Ann Coulter).

So, basically, he accidentally outed himself. Same as McCainDemocrat/danlpoon (who famously replied to an inquiry as to his whereabouts with "I'm traveling"), save for the fact that the 'poon is an actual right-winger.

Anyone else remember when danploon was known for posting that one MILF pic?

Quitter/Shiatter 2012

The Double Live Gonzo ticket.

wow that girl looks a lot like Bristol.