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Rib 2009-07-12 02:40:58 AM  
vertiaset: HairBolus

vertiaset: The problem with the French is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Southerners is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Midwesterners is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Jews is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Americans is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with your post is that mine is true and yours is not. This makes you a very unpleasant troll.


Whoooosh. That's the sound of something going over vertiaset's head.

 
gas giant 2009-07-12 03:03:16 AM  
122 comments and no mention of the drunken, violent Aussie trustifarian brats that descend like liquored up locusts on the beaches of SoCal every summer?
I've been told that they come for the surfing, but they rarely seem to do anything but drink, fight and f*ck everyone and everything they encounter.

 
DalaiLamaDingDong 2009-07-12 03:05:42 AM  
gas giant: 122 comments and no mention of the drunken, violent Aussie trustifarian brats that descend like liquored up locusts on the beaches of SoCal every summer?
I've been told that they come for the surfing, but they rarely seem to do anything but drink, fight and f*ck everyone and everything they encounter.


I said aussies were the worst. They think peeing in the ice machine is funny.

 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 03:08:11 AM  
12monkeys: Americans have very little wiggle room when critiquing the fashion of tourists.

The relevance of your post escapes me..other than a substantiation of your trendy, avant-garde self-loathing.

12monkeys: /going to London and Paris in November

Awww...how cute, do you want a cookie? I am sure you are the first to have ever undertaken this magnificent feat!

 
RicosRoughnecks 2009-07-12 03:08:57 AM  
Well I'm going to Germany next tuesday and checking out London and Paris. I'll represent the U.S. well since I am not fat or loud. Any Limeys give me trouble and I'll tell them Dan hollywood Henderson is nearby and they will understandably run for fortified bunkers.

 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 03:09:47 AM  
DalaiLamaDingDong:

I said aussies were the worst. They think peeing in the ice machine is funny.


isn't your username the name of some chicks with huge hooters in Thailand?

 
virtdave 2009-07-12 03:17:41 AM  
Ugly Tourists are of several origins--in Budapest, far and away the creepiest are the Brits, where cheap airfares from the UK to Hungary have encouraged a sort of hooligan invasion. In Paris, Americans can be pretty irritating--many of them have never been around anyone who can't speak English, and they think that just speaking louder will get them understood.
The USA does have some nifty places to vacation in, but hey, the country is juvenile, both in history and in attitude. Europeans often think of Americans as big babies--cranky, loud and demanding. Of course, the French, especially when out of France, can be insufferable too.

 
DalaiLamaDingDong 2009-07-12 03:20:39 AM  
johnny_vegas: DalaiLamaDingDong:

I said aussies were the worst. They think peeing in the ice machine is funny.

isn't your username the name of some chicks with huge hooters in Thailand?


No, it's the Most Serene Hostess Cupcake

 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 03:27:18 AM  
DalaiLamaDingDong: johnny_vegas: DalaiLamaDingDong:

I said aussies were the worst. They think peeing in the ice machine is funny.

isn't your username the name of some chicks with huge hooters in Thailand?

No, it's the Most Serene Hostess Cupcake


so you say....

www.farangdingdong.com (NSFW)

 
Danielsan [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-12 03:31:20 AM  
I've done my fair share of traveling, and lived in the UK for 6 months and a year in China. Lording it over other people, though, is childish and snotty.

I call it the 'laowai syndrome', laowai being a colloquialism for foreigner in China. Do a bit of traveling and suddenly you're superior to the stupid oafs back home, who 'just don't get it, man'. I met a ton of Americans in China who wanted to write a book about living there, like they're Dr. Livingston or something.

 
gas giant 2009-07-12 03:33:46 AM  
DalaiLamaDingDong: I said aussies were the worst.

I know, I just wanted to mention that particular subset of Aussie tourists and was frankly a little surprised that nobody had mentioned them already.

/One of them once spit on my friend's girlfriend because she dared to resist his bogan charms.

 
DalaiLamaDingDong 2009-07-12 03:40:04 AM  
gas giant: DalaiLamaDingDong: I said aussies were the worst.

I know, I just wanted to mention that particular subset of Aussie tourists and was frankly a little surprised that nobody had mentioned them already.

/One of them once spit on my friend's girlfriend because she dared to resist his bogan charms.


Actually worse than aussies, is RAF on leave.

 
HairBolus 2009-07-12 03:40:42 AM  
Rib: Whoooosh. That's the sound of something going over vertiaset's head.

If you look at vertiaset's profile he gives a 'real name' that actually might be his real name or might be something referring to
2. a fictional character in the novel Atlas Shrugged
3. a fictional character in the video game Wing Commander

On reading his post I get the impression that all 3 are wrapped into one.

 
qwertypoo 2009-07-12 04:31:04 AM  
DalaiLamaDingDong: gas giant: 122 comments and no mention of the drunken, violent Aussie trustifarian brats that descend like liquored up locusts on the beaches of SoCal every summer?
I've been told that they come for the surfing, but they rarely seem to do anything but drink, fight and f*ck everyone and everything they encounter.

I said aussies were the worst. They think peeing in the ice machine is funny.


They sound like typical moron football players on a team trip. Most of them act like shiat throwing apes here too.
They didn't all have tattoos of the Southern Cross on their arms or back by any chance? That's usually a sure sign that someone can't handle alcohol.

 
Gobobo 2009-07-12 04:31:48 AM  
As this is the thread for bigotry, I'd like to throw my hat in the ring for the Russian tourist generally having unsociable behaviour.

And the Chinese tourist isn't much better, but they're smaller and so easier to crush.

 
DalaiLamaDingDong 2009-07-12 04:52:43 AM  
qwertypoo: DalaiLamaDingDong: gas giant: 122 comments and no mention of the drunken, violent Aussie trustifarian brats that descend like liquored up locusts on the beaches of SoCal every summer?
I've been told that they come for the surfing, but they rarely seem to do anything but drink, fight and f*ck everyone and everything they encounter.

I said aussies were the worst. They think peeing in the ice machine is funny.

They sound like typical moron football players on a team trip. Most of them act like shiat throwing apes here too.
They didn't all have tattoos of the Southern Cross on their arms or back by any chance? That's usually a sure sign that someone can't handle alcohol.


Not that I noticed. They were a rugby team. Need I say more?

 
sn0r 2009-07-12 05:24:45 AM  
simpsonfan: When the Dutch talk, it almost sounds like they are spitting.

Yep. That's us.

As for me, having been all over the place as well here's my $0.02:

- Japanese are the friendliest ever.
- English are the most hospitable.
- Germans have the best beer and steal your sunbeds (what a surprise).
- Indonesians are polite to a fault.
- Thai people have a great sense of humour.
- Belgians are either very amicable or very stuck up (North vs. South).
- Finns are very open and friendly but drink waaay too much.
- French: don't even get me started. Worst. Tourists. Ever.
- Spanish are flamboyant and speak their mind.
- Italians are macho pigs. Even the women.
- U.S. citizens are great.. when they're not in the U.S.
- Canadians are laid back.
- South Koreans are maniacs. The good kind.
- Australians love a good time.
- Russians are pretty bad. Think mafia meets ghetto trash.
- Israelis are friendly, just don't mention the problems there.
- Brazilians are like the Spanish on crack.
- Polish tourists are like the Brits on crack (or bigos).

 
Kaymon 2009-07-12 05:30:42 AM  
The last batch of tour groups in my hotel had a few French tourists. One of 'em refused to speak any english, or even try to communicate with us. (heck, he wouldn't even so much as look at us. He had someone else doing everything for him) He called in his credit card as stolen during his stay, so we never received payment for him.

And of course the contact information we had for him (and everyone else in his room) was bogus. So thank you, France, for your contribution to our perception on you.

/it's not typical of French tourists, but it's happened with more of them than any others.
//Niagara Falls area

 
qwertypoo 2009-07-12 05:34:38 AM  
DalaiLamaDingDong:
Not that I noticed. They were a rugby team. Need I say more?


Rugby teams are the worst of the worst. They're like 14 year olds in an adults body, who aren't "one of the boys" unless they drink themselves stupid, intimidate anyone who doesn't get out of their way, treat every wall as a urinal, and be willing to line up and tag team a passed out drunk woman.
Great to hear they're pulling the same shiat overseas and making us all look like assholes :/

 
Jamieboy 2009-07-12 05:50:42 AM  
When they are at home, I find the French very warm and welcoming. Spent more than one vacation, and several long drawn out business trips in France, and felt very much at home. I just wish I could have mastered the language better. France is farking awesome, as many of you know, but I still prefer NW Scotland to anywhere else on earth.

I know a French couple, temporally living in the US, and they freely admit their fellow countrymen are real b'stards when abroad. Why?, I ask, and they just do that shrug the French do.

Gobobo:

And the Chinese tourist isn't much better, but they're smaller and so easier to crush.


I was strap hanging on a very crowed city bus, and I had a Chinese tourist pinch my arm so hard when he wanted off, it bled. That guy came sooooo close to getting clocked, my fist was raised, but another passenger caught my arm and said he had called 911. Thank FSM he did, or it would have been me arrested and would have died of rabies or some other weird Asian disease in jail. The police called the incident assault, and insisted I go to the hospital. Don't know what happened to the happy tourist. Hope he DIAF.

 
2chris2 2009-07-12 06:33:03 AM  
HairBolus: that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?


Comparison of the size of the U.S. with western europe. Note that this doesn't even include Alaska, which is about as large as France and the U.K. combined.

i28.tinypic.com

 
HairBolus 2009-07-12 06:42:07 AM  
mud_shark: I knew you would be one of the Boobiesers in this thread. You are an asshat

And yes, I've been to foreign countries (including New Jersey)

Go fark yourself.


Awww. It looks like I have a fan struggling with a love/hate relation and maybe sexuality problems.

(p.s. I heard Zappa do Mud Shark in concert, so you can't be totaly evil)

 
Dampfplauderer 2009-07-12 09:09:08 AM  
i28.tinypic.com

Hamburg is the capital of Germany ? The more you know...

 
captmingus 2009-07-12 09:17:33 AM  
that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?

This fiscal quarter?

 
whobeanie 2009-07-12 09:47:55 AM  
chisum: because the french keep stealing the sheets to make surrender flags

You made me lawl in my juice.

 
Thunderpipes 2009-07-12 10:21:10 AM  
koan: The_Sponge:
Riiight....because the only worthwhile travel in the U.S. involves visiting retail shops. I'll be one of the last people to say negative things about foreign travel, but just think of all the fantastic vacation opportunities we have:

The greatest point of traveling is not a new scenery but opening your mind to different cultures, ways of life and new ideas.

I rarely meet well traveled closed minded ignoramuses. The opposite, however, is common.

/if you can't travel, at least read.


BS.

 
Mr. Breeze 2009-07-12 10:37:03 AM  
HairBolus: that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?


I've been to Mexico, and 9 Euro countries, and 3 Middle Eastern ones.

 
whatshisname 2009-07-12 10:39:03 AM  
Jaws_Victim: I get so sick and tired of Europeans complaining Americans never go to other countries. Some dutch guy I was arguing with was criticizing Americans for not having passports which "every European has." I told him we didn't NEED passports to travel within the states

Europeans don't need a passport to travel within Europe.

 
Mr. Breeze 2009-07-12 10:40:27 AM  
Oh, and the Japanese are nice people, except if you are in the way of a tour group. Then you get swept out of the way by the tsunami of people with large cameras.

I'm 5'7" though, so I can easily see over their heads.

 
IslanderInExile 2009-07-12 10:49:12 AM  
I've worked in hotels and restaurants for ten years in the Florida Keys, and I agree that the French are the worst. But all of you polite, friendly Canadians, please, PLEASE learn how to tip. Three dollars on a $40 lunch is not a good tip. Eight dollars on $100 is not a good tip. And telling me what a good job I did just makes me assume that I'm getting a shiatty cash tip. Believe me, servers hate the "verbal tip".

It's understandable when Europeans don't tip well, because they're not used to it. But when Canadians tip poorly, they're just being cheap.

For the record I've been to Canada, Mexico, the UK and Germany. Once I get out from under $50K worth of student loans, I'll go elsewhere.

 
hovsm 2009-07-12 11:20:32 AM  
The one thing that caught my eye was their lack of learning the language of the country they are visiting. When I visited France, the only thing that really bugged them was that I couldn't speak French well. Many of them told me that if you visit France you should speak the language out of respect......yeah no hypocrisy there.

 
yuri82 2009-07-12 11:37:17 AM  
As a Brazilian I am shocked. I thought my people were the worst. I don't know what the Frenchies are doing, but it has to be really BAD.

Well, the problem is that the study takes the country as a whole. The rich Brazilians are more civilized. The poor ones cut in line, swear, biatch, argue loudly, try to scam you, beat up their kids, steal, etc.

Maybe they only studied the expensive hotels.

 
DeerNuts 2009-07-12 12:04:19 PM  
12monkeys: Americans have very little wiggle room when critiquing the fashion of tourists.

(Picture of fat ugly American tourists in wretched costume)

/going to London and Paris in November



This! This is one of the most annoying farking things that tourists of all nationalities do. For some reason they think that vacation means it's time to drag out their most awful wretched ugly-ass clothes and walk around looking like rejects from trailer parks.

My thinking is that when I travel to another country (or hell, another state) I'm visiting somebody's home. And when I'm out of the country, people form their opinions of Americans based partly on me. I'm going to give other countries the respect they deserve and leave a good impression in any way I can.

And no, you dumb trolls I don't wear a suit to the beach. But nor do I visit a cathedral wearing a Budweiser frogs t-shirt and cutoff jean shorts. There's a little thing called respect.

 
lilbjorn 2009-07-12 12:16:29 PM  
French tourists received some consolation for their poor performance, finishing third after the Italians and British for dress sense while on holiday.

The French dress worse than the Brits? Oh dear!

 
DeerNuts 2009-07-12 12:23:03 PM  
When we're calling American mouth-breathing troglodytes because many have never been outside the US, maybe we should look at distance traveled rather than number of countries visited. Looking at the maps above, continental US is bigger than all of Europe. The distance I would travel just getting out of the hellhole of Texas could take me through three or four entire countries in Europe.

So if we want to get all uppity, I've visited almost all of the lower 48 states. How many Eurpoeans have visited all the countries in Europe? Just for the record I have traveled outside the US.

When I was in high school we had a Swedish foreign exchange student in my German class. This was in Atlanta. She told me that over the weekend she had talked to her father, and he asked her if she was going to take a little trip over the weekend sometime to Texas. He didn't quite understand the distances involved. Hell, I still can't get over the fact that I could start driving now from Houston and twelve hours laster still be in the same frakkin state.

 
Zazou 2009-07-12 12:50:09 PM  
Hell, I still can't get over the fact that I could start driving now from Houston and twelve hours laster still be in the same frakkin state.

Yeah, I once owned a car like that......

 
BunkyBrewman [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 01:13:29 PM  
ubertwit: some of my coworkers are french. hate their condescending guts. as a result, I take great pleasure in farking with them with beavis speak.

Just remind them that you were never tempted to move to another country to better your life.

/works every time

 
Ecaps [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 01:14:45 PM  
DeerNuts: Hell, I still can't get over the fact that I could start driving now from Houston and twelve hours laster still be in the same frakkin stateprovince.

Welcome to Ontario. Yours to Discover.

 
Haplo127x 2009-07-12 01:45:46 PM  
Ecaps: DeerNuts: Hell, I still can't get over the fact that I could start driving now from Houston and twelve hours laster still be in the same frakkin stateprovince.

Welcome to Ontario. Yours to Discover.


Oh heck yes. Northern Ontario lasts forever. My advice to anyone driving through is to take your fishing pole and camping gear because you are going to be there for a bit.

 
Mr. Breeze 2009-07-12 02:06:42 PM  
DeerNuts: When we're calling American mouth-breathing troglodytes because many have never been outside the US, maybe we should look at distance traveled rather than number of countries visited. Looking at the maps above, continental US is bigger than all of Europe. The distance I would travel just getting out of the hellhole of Texas could take me through three or four entire countries in Europe.

So if we want to get all uppity, I've visited almost all of the lower 48 states. How many Eurpoeans have visited all the countries in Europe? Just for the record I have traveled outside the US.

When I was in high school we had a Swedish foreign exchange student in my German class. This was in Atlanta. She told me that over the weekend she had talked to her father, and he asked her if she was going to take a little trip over the weekend sometime to Texas. He didn't quite understand the distances involved. Hell, I still can't get over the fact that I could start driving now from Houston and twelve hours laster still be in the same frakkin state.



This. I drove from Belgium, through Germany, Austria, Italy, Switzerland, and France all in 10 days, taking one and two day stops in each country.

In contrast. It takes 25 hours of straight driving to get from central Montana to St Louis. And that's not even halfway across the country.

 
treesloth 2009-07-12 02:30:11 PM  
Mr. Breeze: I'm 5'7" though, so I can easily see over their heads.

I'm 6' 7", so they usually try to make me fight an alien or atomic supermonster.

Strange Japanese tourist story... I was working for a time at Pier 1 Imports after high school. While I was a work, a group of Japanese tourists came in the store, looked around, got a few trinkets, and left. As they were getting in their van, one of them went and stood next to my car (they didn't know it was mine). He waved to the others and they went over to it. This was an early model Ford Tempo. They posed next to it, leaning on it, etc., and took pictures. After about 5 minutes of taking pictures with my car, they got in the van and left. I have no idea what the crap was up with that. I can only assume that once they got in the van they checked "Take picture of yourself posing with massive POS" off a scavenger hunt checklist.

 
whatshisname 2009-07-12 04:51:45 PM  
IslanderInExile: Canadians, please, PLEASE learn how to tip. Three dollars on a $40 lunch is not a good tip. Eight dollars on $100 is not a good tip.

Maybe you need to learn how to serve?
Let's see... on a $100 meal you probably spent, what, 12 minutes total at the table, so the $8 works out to $40 an hour. Seems fair to me for unskilled manual labour.

I'll never understand the entitlement attitude of waiters.

 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 05:30:43 PM  
whatshisname: IslanderInExile: Canadians, please, PLEASE learn how to tip. Three dollars on a $40 lunch is not a good tip. Eight dollars on $100 is not a good tip.

Maybe you need to learn how to serve?
Let's see... on a $100 meal you probably spent, what, 12 minutes total at the table, so the $8 works out to $40 an hour. Seems fair to me for unskilled manual labour.

I'll never understand the entitlement attitude of waiters I'm a farking cheapskate.


/yeah for shame, those unwashed masses that should be happy to live to serve you
//you probably need to look up the word entitlement

 
drucee 2009-07-12 06:46:32 PM  
Anyone using the old "America is huge and has a crappy transport system, so that's why we don't travel" excuse may be right, but only partially--Australians and New Zealanders live in countries that are more isolated and similarly vast, but manage to travel the world almost as a rite of passage. As a nation, we Americans need to get out beyond our borders more. I'm guilty of not traveling enough as well--although I've been to 38 states, three Canadian provinces, France, and the UK, I've still not traveled enough, especially in Europe.

As far as the world's worst tourists, I'd say New Yorkers--they're loud, cranky, pushy, condescending, and critical of EVERYTHING. We Minnesotans don't like being referred to as a "flyover state" and being told that there's nothing between New York and LA.

 
whatshisname 2009-07-12 07:01:47 PM  
johnny_vegas:
I'm a farking cheapskate.

/yeah for shame, those unwashed masses that should be happy to live to serve you
//you probably need to look up the word entitlement


I'm quite happy to tip well for good service. Not so happy having a waiter tell me I need to learn how to tip. And that's the problem with a lot of people in the service industry. You can see straight through them. They don't have any interest in doing a good job and making sure you enjoy your meal beyond their calculations of a potential tip. And don't get me started on the threats of spit or worse in your food if you fail to live up to their expectations.

I have no doubt that within 10 years, we'll be told that 25% is the standard tip for good service.

You seem to be fairly well traveled. You must realize that this attitude is pretty much exclusive to North America ans the US in particular?

 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 07:15:23 PM  
whatshisname: johnny_vegas:
I'm a farking cheapskate.

/yeah for shame, those unwashed masses that should be happy to live to serve you
//you probably need to look up the word entitlement

I'm quite happy to tip well for good service. Not so happy having a waiter tell me I need to learn how to tip. And that's the problem with a lot of people in the service industry. You can see straight through them. They don't have any interest in doing a good job and making sure you enjoy your meal beyond their calculations of a potential tip. And don't get me started on the threats of spit or worse in your food if you fail to live up to their expectations.

I have no doubt that within 10 years, we'll be told that 25% is the standard tip for good service.

You seem to be fairly well traveled. You must realize that this attitude is pretty much exclusive to North America ans the US in particular?


I agree with your sentiments, to a degree, and i admit I misread the intent of your post. That said, exclusive or not, tipping is the custom in the US. As far as I know, it is factored into the salaries of waiters also. Though prob not factored in, the waiters generally pool part of the tips to give a small share to busboys.

 
yuri82 2009-07-12 09:48:28 PM  
I'm an ex-waiter. We used to say people should only be allowed to eat at restaurants if they had waited tables before. I still agree with that statement.

However, I would prefer if tipping was banned and people got paid salaries for waiting tables. Same with tax calculations at the end of the purchase. Stick it in the price. Sure, let me know at the receipt how much I paid in taxes so I can complain about it.

 
12monkeys 2009-07-12 11:25:14 PM  
johnny_vegas: 12monkeys: Americans have very little wiggle room when critiquing the fashion of tourists.

The relevance of your post escapes me..other than a substantiation of your trendy, avant-garde self-loathing.

12monkeys: /going to London and Paris in November

Awww...how cute, do you want a cookie? I am sure you are the first to have ever undertaken this magnificent feat!


Reeeeow! Who peed in your cheerios this morning, dude? I was merely pointing out (with the help of some humorous pictures) the irony of the Americans critiquing the fashion of tourists from other countries when Americans are themselves known for poor clothing choices when it comes to tourism. As for my mentioning going to Paris and London for my honeymoon, I just thought it was relevant to the thread, being about both the French and tourism. Not to mention the fact that I'm just excited about visiting London again as well as seeing Les Catacombes in Paris.

 
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