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Broz_Tito 2009-07-11 10:11:50 PM  
with the British and the Germans judged the best of the Europeans.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight....

 
Hence the Name... 2009-07-11 10:59:28 PM  
Let the French Fry.

/Toast

 
Midnight Rambler 2009-07-11 10:59:36 PM  
There are two kinds of people I can't stand:

Those who are intolerant of other cultures, and the Dutch.

 
arghyematey 2009-07-11 10:59:55 PM  
I tend to have problems with Brazilian tourists.


I like the French. Their food is good and their style is too.

 
HairBolus 2009-07-11 11:01:15 PM  
that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?

 
VonAether 2009-07-11 11:01:33 PM  
Je suis une pamplemousse gigantesque.

 
epyonyx 2009-07-11 11:02:24 PM  
The Japanese ranked top of the Best Tourist survey, with the British and the Germans judged the best of the Europeans.

But French tourists received some consolation for their poor performance, finishing third after the Italians and British for dress sense while on holiday.


I bet the Japanese are the worst dress. Case and point, I was in Italy at the beach, and a bunch of male Japanese tourists were on the beach in suits. With that said, all of the Japanese people I have met seem to be very polite.

 
aagrajag 2009-07-11 11:03:54 PM  
Woot! We're number three!

Ca-na-da! Where mediocrity rules.

 
aagrajag 2009-07-11 11:06:40 PM  
epyonyx: The Japanese ranked top of the Best Tourist survey, with the British and the Germans judged the best of the Europeans.

But French tourists received some consolation for their poor performance, finishing third after the Italians and British for dress sense while on holiday.

I bet the Japanese are the worst dress. Case and point, I was in Italy at the beach, and a bunch of male Japanese tourists were on the beach in suits. With that said, all of the Japanese people I have met seem to be very polite.


The Japanese are extremely agreeable. So I feel kinda bad when I ejaculate on doorknobs in Japanese hotels...

 
whatshisname 2009-07-11 11:06:54 PM  
I've run into some very rude French tourists (and some very nice ones), but the French aren't the most obnoxious in my opinion.

 
Ba'al_is_my_God 2009-07-11 11:08:12 PM  
wow, the whole "we're lucky to have a country that has wonderful landscapes, etc." sounds very pompous. and they wonder why no one likes them...

 
chisum 2009-07-11 11:08:31 PM  
because the french keep stealing the sheets to make surrender flags

 
mikemir 2009-07-11 11:09:37 PM  
But French tourists received some consolation for their poor performance, finishing third ... for dress sense while on holiday"

As a child, at the Wet N Wild in Orlando (a waterpark) I saw a French woman in a bikini who had done nothing to... prepare herself for wearing a bikini. Pube city sticking out of that thing. I'm not sure what she was thinking...

I'd actually forgotten about that until right now. Some things are better left forgotten!


 
mikemir 2009-07-11 11:10:12 PM  
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Danger Avoid Death 2009-07-11 11:10:12 PM  
aagrajag: epyonyx: The Japanese ranked top of the Best Tourist survey, with the British and the Germans judged the best of the Europeans.

But French tourists received some consolation for their poor performance, finishing third after the Italians and British for dress sense while on holiday.

I bet the Japanese are the worst dress. Case and point, I was in Italy at the beach, and a bunch of male Japanese tourists were on the beach in suits. With that said, all of the Japanese people I have met seem to be very polite.

The Japanese are extremely agreeable. So I feel kinda bad when I ejaculate on doorknobs in Japanese hotels...


Sayonara! Come again!

 
epyonyx 2009-07-11 11:11:35 PM  
aagrajag: epyonyx: The Japanese ranked top of the Best Tourist survey, with the British and the Germans judged the best of the Europeans.

But French tourists received some consolation for their poor performance, finishing third after the Italians and British for dress sense while on holiday.

I bet the Japanese are the worst dress. Case and point, I was in Italy at the beach, and a bunch of male Japanese tourists were on the beach in suits. With that said, all of the Japanese people I have met seem to be very polite.

The Japanese are extremely agreeable. So I feel kinda bad when I ejaculate on doorknobs in Japanese hotels...


image.muzi.com

What a hot Japanese woman might look like.

 
Gish21 2009-07-11 11:11:44 PM  
I've never found the French to be bad. Worst are the Brits, always drunk and often eager for a fight. At least American white trash stays home in their trailer parks, Brit trash roams the world getting drunk and puking everywhere.

 
aagrajag 2009-07-11 11:12:54 PM  
epyonyx: aagrajag: epyonyx: The Japanese ranked top of the Best Tourist survey, with the British and the Germans judged the best of the Europeans.

But French tourists received some consolation for their poor performance, finishing third after the Italians and British for dress sense while on holiday.

I bet the Japanese are the worst dress. Case and point, I was in Italy at the beach, and a bunch of male Japanese tourists were on the beach in suits. With that said, all of the Japanese people I have met seem to be very polite.

The Japanese are extremely agreeable. So I feel kinda bad when I ejaculate on doorknobs in Japanese hotels...



What a hot Japanese woman might look like.


And... I'm spent.

 
jrshull 2009-07-11 11:13:01 PM  
i159.photobucket.com

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-11 11:13:26 PM  
Worst tourist I've met in Florida were English. Japanese were the most polite and quite friendly. German tourists seemed pretty OK too. Swedes were pretty cool. Never encountered any Frenchies. Canadians just blend right in with little notice.

 
Euler007 2009-07-11 11:13:56 PM  
Canada would have finished first for best tourists, we got dragged down by all the americans with canadian flags on their backpacks.

 
MyNameIsMofuga 2009-07-11 11:14:01 PM  
Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?

I can see Mexico from my house.

 
mcvey 2009-07-11 11:15:22 PM  
epyonyx: aagrajag: epyonyx: The Japanese ranked top of the Best Tourist survey, with the British and the Germans judged the best of the Europeans.

But French tourists received some consolation for their poor performance, finishing third after the Italians and British for dress sense while on holiday.

I bet the Japanese are the worst dress. Case and point, I was in Italy at the beach, and a bunch of male Japanese tourists were on the beach in suits. With that said, all of the Japanese people I have met seem to be very polite.

The Japanese are extremely agreeable. So I feel kinda bad when I ejaculate on doorknobs in Japanese hotels...



What a hot Japanese woman might look like.


Circa 1994

 
MasterShakezula 2009-07-11 11:15:52 PM  
HairBolus: Before

Are you serious? I took the train from London to France in under 2.5 hours. It takes more time to go from LA to Tijuana, and almost as long as Buffalo to Toronto. North America is huge compared to Europe. It's not a fair comparison.

 
hornblowerfan 2009-07-11 11:17:06 PM  
Those hotel owners have obviously never had any Australian guests, the drunken ones in particular. They are the worst; one slapped a girl at the front f
desk for not knowing where Legoland is, and a another guest a week later threatened to slap me for taking too long to make new room keys for him. They act atrociously, sorry to all Australian Farkers, but you suck.

 
fullerton 2009-07-11 11:18:04 PM  
HairBolus: that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?



Yeah, because France and the US are so similar in land area.

 
pureobscure 2009-07-11 11:19:10 PM  
HairBolus: that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?


America is something like 25 times the size of France. That means there's a whole lot more to see. And I'd bet that there's a LOT more than 90% of Americans who've traveled outside the U.S. So what's your point, dipshiat?

 
itsfullofstars 2009-07-11 11:19:16 PM  
that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

So when the French do their traveling at home, its because they have such a beautiful geographically diverse country. When Americans or anyone else tend to stay within their country's borders, they are ignorant and unworldly.

Got it.

 
mcvey 2009-07-11 11:19:23 PM  
hornblowerfan: Those hotel owners have obviously never had any Australian guests, the drunken ones in particular. They are the worst; one slapped a girl at the front f
desk for not knowing where Legoland is, and a another guest a week later threatened to slap me for taking too long to make new room keys for him. They act atrociously, sorry to all Australian Farkers, but you suck.


Didn't know where legoland was?! Lucky it wasn't me. They'd never find her.

 
epyonyx 2009-07-11 11:19:28 PM  
mcvey: epyonyx: aagrajag: epyonyx: The Japanese ranked top of the Best Tourist survey, with the British and the Germans judged the best of the Europeans.

But French tourists received some consolation for their poor performance, finishing third after the Italians and British for dress sense while on holiday.

I bet the Japanese are the worst dress. Case and point, I was in Italy at the beach, and a bunch of male Japanese tourists were on the beach in suits. With that said, all of the Japanese people I have met seem to be very polite.

The Japanese are extremely agreeable. So I feel kinda bad when I ejaculate on doorknobs in Japanese hotels...



What a hot Japanese woman might look like.

Circa 1994


I just did a random search and chose one I liked.

www.made2mentor.com

/can we have a hot foreign chick thread?

 
Ecaps [TotalFark] 2009-07-11 11:20:28 PM  
Don't worry, France. Your days at the bottom of this list are numbered. Once the world get a load of the typical Mainland Chinese tourist, the French will seem downright cordial.

 
chisum 2009-07-11 11:20:49 PM  
mexicans are the worst tourists, they never go home

 
12349876 2009-07-11 11:20:53 PM  
HairBolus: that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?


Not a lot. but a lot of people also live a very long way away from either Canada or Mexico. Nobody in Europe is that far away from another country. Plus our country has all the basics that tourists want: warm beaches, great skiing mountains, lots of parks with every type of climate if you include Alaska and Hawaii, world class cities. A lot of European countries are lacking one or more of these features.

 
Haplo127x 2009-07-11 11:21:23 PM  
Euler007: Canada would have finished first for best tourists, we got dragged down by all the americans with canadian flags on their backpacks.

Ha! I went to Orlando/Disney with my kids several years ago and was in line for the monorail behind someone wearing a Canadian flag lapel pin. When I tried to ask where they were from; maybe I know Bob from Toronto, etc. the father admitted they were from Louisiana but thought they'd be treated better if they were wearing a Canadian flag. It was very strange and probably another reason I shouldn't talk to random strangers.

 
mrtoadswildride 2009-07-11 11:25:56 PM  
I heard the french were going to try and do better in the rankings, but for whatever reason they just gave up.

/hey-oooooo!!!!

 
The_Sponge [TotalFark] 2009-07-11 11:26:25 PM  
On the bright side, it's easy for housekeeping to clean a French tourist's room.

/The shower hasn't been used.
//And neither have the bars of soap.

 
Fano 2009-07-11 11:26:35 PM  
HairBolus: that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?


Yeah, but the French live in a country the size of an American state. And they claim to be cultured. Imagine if a New Yorker had never been farther than Maine or Virginia, and claimed to be a well travelled person.

 
lenina4sammy 2009-07-11 11:26:49 PM  
LittleSmitty: Worst tourist I've met in Florida were English. Japanese were the most polite and quite friendly. German tourists seemed pretty OK too. Swedes were pretty cool. Never encountered any Frenchies. Canadians just blend right in with little notice.

In my mind, seeing over-sized German men in speedos takes the Germans off the "OK" list. Plus I haven't been able to think about Blizzard Beach in Orlando without having a flashback for the last 15 years...

 
simpsonfan 2009-07-11 11:27:21 PM  
I never really had problems with the locals in any country I have been to. The Irish were my favorite, but being Irish myself, there is that, and the fact that in Ireland, I blend in with the people.

The French locals are not rude, try to speak a few words at least, that helps.

Some other observations:

The Japanese, polite. There, or abroad.

Germans do not jaywalk.

Italians have the best food.

British have good TV.

When the Dutch talk, it almost sounds like they are spitting.

India has so much contrast. many cultures. People who are filthy rich, others who are just filthy.

Arab vendors do not give up easily.

Singapore is very fussy about, well, it's almost like one big HOA.

North Korea is the strangest travel experience I ever had.

The Magic Kingdom at the Disneyland resort is the best theme park.

 
AppleOptionEsc 2009-07-11 11:27:33 PM  
HairBolus: that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?


I've been to Canada, before passports were necessary, it was nice.
But since the U.S.A. is about, say 3 to 4 times bigger than any given European country, I'd say not many travel abroad. It's not like we have any backwards high speed trains going anywhere. We have us some car$$$. And riddle me this, who doesn't think the South, Utah and Florida aren't their own countries?

 
ZippyChippy 2009-07-11 11:27:48 PM  
I live in So Cal, very close to Disneyland, and see a lot of tourists. Being in an unfamiliar place, especially in a different country, where someone is not familiar with local customs, money, or even the language sometimes doesn't bring out the best in people. But most tourists, no matter where they're from, seem basically OK. The place where they're the worst is behind the wheel on the local freeways. It's best to err on the safe side and treat rental cars the same way you treat student drivers.

 
The_Sponge [TotalFark] 2009-07-11 11:28:11 PM  
arghyematey: I tend to have problems with Brazilian tourists.


Seconded. They're farking awful in Orlando....they cut in line, and pretend to be deaf when other people yell at them.

 
austerity101 2009-07-11 11:31:04 PM  
"The French don't go abroad very much. We're lucky enough to have a country which is magnificent in terms of its landscape and culture"

Say what you will about the French, but saying something like that takes major balls.

 
mcvey 2009-07-11 11:32:27 PM  
We're lucky enough to have a country which is magnificent in terms of its landscape and culture.

/Canada
//Wait, what culture?

 
Fano 2009-07-11 11:33:15 PM  
simpsonfan: I never really had problems with the locals in any country I have been to. The Irish were my favorite, but being Irish myself, there is that, and the fact that in Ireland, I blend in with the people.

The French locals are not rude, try to speak a few words at least, that helps.

Some other observations:

The Japanese, polite. There, or abroad.

Germans do not jaywalk.

Italians have the best food.

British have good TV.

When the Dutch talk, it almost sounds like they are spitting.

India has so much contrast. many cultures. People who are filthy rich, others who are just filthy.

Arab vendors do not give up easily.

Singapore is very fussy about, well, it's almost like one big HOA.

North Korea is the strangest travel experience I ever had.

The Magic Kingdom at the Disneyland resort is the best theme park.


I've been waiting for no good reason to make you a favorite.

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-11 11:34:51 PM  
lenina4sammy: LittleSmitty: Worst tourist I've met in Florida were English. Japanese were the most polite and quite friendly. German tourists seemed pretty OK too. Swedes were pretty cool. Never encountered any Frenchies. Canadians just blend right in with little notice.

In my mind, seeing over-sized German men in speedos takes the Germans off the "OK" list. Plus I haven't been able to think about Blizzard Beach in Orlando without having a flashback for the last 15 years...


Well I suppose that would be a bit unsettling. The Germans I met were quite nice, though it wasn't on the beach. It helps I have a German surname I suppose

 
The_Sponge [TotalFark] 2009-07-11 11:37:02 PM  
simpsonfan: The Magic Kingdom at the Disneyland resort is the best theme park.


I assume that you have never been to Disney World.

 
Brown Sauce 2009-07-11 11:37:38 PM  
Americans are used to tolerating some nasty-ass hotels!

 
HairBolus 2009-07-11 11:39:44 PM  
In France, it's the law: full-time workers in France are guaranteed at least five weeks vacation.

The "90 percent of French people did their traveling at home" quote refers to just one year.

How many people in the US have even been outside of the US in their entire life? not how many per year which is the statistic being compared.

USA is #1!

 
Danger Avoid Death 2009-07-11 11:41:03 PM  
Euler007: Canada would have finished first for best tourists, we got dragged down by all the americans with canadian flags on their backpacks.

Listen, bub, either cough up a Canadian flag for my backpack or I'm spending my entire European vacation hanging out with you while wearing my American flag t-shirt and baseball cap and singing the Star Spangled Banner. Can you say "collateral damage"?

 
aagrajag 2009-07-11 11:41:11 PM  
pureobscure: HairBolus: that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?

America is something like 25 times the size of France. That means there's a whole lot more to see. And I'd bet that there's a LOT more than 90% of Americans who've traveled outside the U.S. So what's your point, dipshiat?


Yeah, nothing like shopping at a different Walmart to get all cultured up.

 
The_Sponge [TotalFark] 2009-07-11 11:42:33 PM  
HairBolus: How many people in the US have even been outside of the US in their entire life?


You can add me to that list.

/Been to Canada, Mexico, and a large part of Central & Eastern Europe.
//Taking a cruise up to Canada in October.

 
StephenPilolla 2009-07-11 11:42:49 PM  
VonAether: Je suis une pamplemousse gigantesque.

You're a giant grapefruit?

o.O

 
lenina4sammy 2009-07-11 11:45:01 PM  
LittleSmitty: lenina4sammy: LittleSmitty: Worst tourist I've met in Florida were English. Japanese were the most polite and quite friendly. German tourists seemed pretty OK too. Swedes were pretty cool. Never encountered any Frenchies. Canadians just blend right in with little notice.

In my mind, seeing over-sized German men in speedos takes the Germans off the "OK" list. Plus I haven't been able to think about Blizzard Beach in Orlando without having a flashback for the last 15 years...

Well I suppose that would be a bit unsettling. The Germans I met were quite nice, though it wasn't on the beach. It helps I have a German surname I suppose


In all fairness, they were extremely polite and tried to engage me in conversation after I inadvertently used the little bit of German I knew. I think the Germans just have a different concept of "figure-appropriate" apparel than I do. True, though, it doesn't make them bad tourists. I'm sure they tipped well.

 
Alys 2009-07-11 11:45:33 PM  
Has anyone actually found the complete survey results? All Google has are 500 articles about "Ha, ha, the French suck!"

 
moothemagiccow 2009-07-11 11:46:57 PM  
VonAether: Je suis une pamplemousse gigantesque.

géant

 
Fano 2009-07-11 11:48:16 PM  
The_Sponge: HairBolus: How many people in the US have even been outside of the US in their entire life?


You can add me to that list.

/Been to Canada, Mexico, and a large part of Central & Eastern Europe.
//Taking a cruise up to Canada in October.


Add me, Canada, Mexico, Jamaica.

 
lenina4sammy 2009-07-11 11:49:43 PM  
Alys: Has anyone actually found the complete survey results? All Google has are 500 articles about "Ha, ha, the French suck!"

I was hoping for that, too. I just assumed U.S. citizens were second on the list.

 
12349876 2009-07-11 11:51:41 PM  
Fano: The_Sponge: HairBolus: How many people in the US have even been outside of the US in their entire life?


You can add me to that list.

/Been to Canada, Mexico, and a large part of Central & Eastern Europe.
//Taking a cruise up to Canada in October.

Add me, Canada, Mexico, Jamaica.


Add me, Canada, Mexico, Costa Rica, 11 Western and Central European countries, and for partial credit Hawaii, US Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico

 
The_Sponge [TotalFark] 2009-07-11 11:51:56 PM  
aagrajag: Yeah, nothing like shopping at a different Walmart to get all cultured up.


*Face Palm*

Riiight....because the only worthwhile travel in the U.S. involves visiting retail shops. I'll be one of the last people to say negative things about foreign travel, but just think of all the fantastic vacation opportunities we have:

Hawaii
Yellowstone National Park
Glacier National Park
Lake Chelan
Crater Lake
Lake Tahoe
The wine regions of CA, OR, and WA.
The coastal areas of CA, OR, and WA.
Las Vegas
Miami
Key West
Alaska
Etc.

 
illicit 2009-07-11 11:58:01 PM  
Broz_Tito: with the British and the Germans judged the best of the Europeans.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight....


I thought the study last year found the British to be the worst?AppleOptionEsc: HairBolus: that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?

I've been to Canada, before passports were necessary, it was nice.
But since the U.S.A. is about, say 3 to 4 times bigger than any given European country, I'd say not many travel abroad. It's not like we have any backwards high speed trains going anywhere. We have us some car$$$. And riddle me this, who doesn't think the South, Utah and Florida aren't their own countries?


FTFY.

 
aagrajag 2009-07-12 12:00:38 AM  
The_Sponge: aagrajag: Yeah, nothing like shopping at a different Walmart to get all cultured up.


*Face Palm*

Riiight....because the only worthwhile travel in the U.S. involves visiting retail shops. I'll be one of the last people to say negative things about foreign travel, but just think of all the fantastic vacation opportunities we have:

Hawaii
Yellowstone National Park
Glacier National Park
Lake Chelan
Crater Lake
Lake Tahoe
The wine regions of CA, OR, and WA.
The coastal areas of CA, OR, and WA.
Las Vegas
Miami
Key West
Alaska
Etc.


That was actually intended more as a dig against provincial Americans than the country itself.

 
whatshisname 2009-07-12 12:02:33 AM  
America is a great place to travel if you like nature and scenery. For interesting food and culture, go somewhere else.

 
Hand Banana 2009-07-12 12:06:24 AM  
I've been to Canada, but only because I happened to see the exit sign to Windsor while I was driving around Ohio one weekend for something to do. No passport needed then (not that I would have had any clue if they were). The lady just waved me through and after getting some colorful money I spent the rest of the day doing exiting things like eating at Hardee's, visiting a local supermarket (loved seeing all the soda being sold in cartons of glass bottles, very nostalgic), then driving out in the country and visiting a few small towns. Glad I was able to go before all the anti-turr bs kicked in.

 
texdent [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 12:10:29 AM  
We recently had some French guests at the hotel. They were so tall they had to duck to get through the doors.

/They were trying out for the Dallas Mavericks.

 
HairBolus 2009-07-12 12:15:03 AM  

Note that the notion of 'best tourist' comes from a poll of Hotel owners. To them 'best' means those from who can be made the most money and who cause the least problems.

In this sense the overall rankings are:

1. Japanese
2. British
3. Canadians
4. Germans
5. Swiss
6. Dutch
6. Australians
8. Swedish
8. Americans
10. Danes
10. Norwegians
10. Finnish
10. Belgians
14. Austrian
14. New Zealanders
16. Thais
17. Portuguese
17. Czechs
19. Italians
19. Irish
19. Brazilians
22. Polish
22. South Africans
24. Turkish
24. Greeks
26. Spanish
27. French


I wonder why they included Canadians but not Americans.

 
Danger Avoid Death 2009-07-12 12:15:35 AM  
Fano: Yeah, but the French live in a country the size of an American state. And they claim to be cultured.

Like yoghurt or buttermilk. Both of which make me sick.

 
whatshisname 2009-07-12 12:18:29 AM  
HairBolus:

I wonder why they included Canadians but not Americans.


Because Americans can't read past the number 6?

 
The_Sponge [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 12:19:26 AM  
HairBolus: I wonder why they included Canadians but not Americans.


Um....check out one of the countries tied for 8th place.

 
VonAether 2009-07-12 12:20:06 AM  
StephenPilolla: You're a giant grapefruit?

o.O


Non. Je me suis le jambon de la mer.

/Ou était-ce le jambon de la mort?

 
koan 2009-07-12 12:21:29 AM  
The_Sponge:
Riiight....because the only worthwhile travel in the U.S. involves visiting retail shops. I'll be one of the last people to say negative things about foreign travel, but just think of all the fantastic vacation opportunities we have:


The greatest point of traveling is not a new scenery but opening your mind to different cultures, ways of life and new ideas.

I rarely meet well traveled closed minded ignoramuses. The opposite, however, is common.

/if you can't travel, at least read.

 
whatshisname 2009-07-12 12:27:12 AM  
koan:
/if you can't travel, at least read.


Better yet, read books about other countries.

 
mcvey 2009-07-12 12:29:02 AM  
Or watch Departures on OLN.

 
Tellurianix 2009-07-12 12:31:44 AM  

I wonder why they included Canadians but not Americans.


I'm guessing it's because Americans don't know there's a world outside the USA so don't travel.

/low hanging snarkfruit

 
Jaws_Victim 2009-07-12 12:32:11 AM  
MasterShakezula: HairBolus: Before

Are you serious? I took the train from London to France in under 2.5 hours. It takes more time to go from LA to Tijuana, and almost as long as Buffalo to Toronto. North America is huge compared to Europe. It's not a fair comparison.


Thank you! I get so sick and tired of Europeans complaining Americans never go to other countries. Some dutch guy I was arguing with was criticizing Americans for not having passports which "every European has." I told him we didn't NEED passports to travel within the states, it's all the same country. In addition, at the time, you didn't need a passport to get into Canada or Mexico either. He was shocked.

Europeans live in a much smaller place with many different cultures. The USA is a bigger place with mostly the same culture, but many different landmarks. There also isn't as great a transportation system in the US as in Europe.

Europeans are so remarkably arrogant. They might pride themselves on their Euro-Centric "world view", but if it comes to anything USA they like to BASH BASH BASH.

 
Danger Avoid Death 2009-07-12 12:32:41 AM  
whatshisname: koan:
/if you can't travel, at least read.

Better yet, read books about other countries.


Like Mississippi, Texas and Florida.

 
New Age Redneck 2009-07-12 12:39:22 AM  
HairBolus

Note that the notion of 'best tourist' comes from a poll of Hotel owners. To them 'best' means those from who can be made the most money and who cause the least problems.

In this sense the overall rankings are:

1. Japanese
2. British
3. Canadians
4. Germans

5. Swiss
6. Dutch
6. Australians
8. Swedish
8. Americans
10. Danes
10. Norwegians
10. Finnish
10. Belgians
14. Austrian
14. New Zealanders
16. Thais
17. Portuguese
17. Czechs
19. Italians
19. Irish
19. Brazilians
22. Polish
22. South Africans
24. Turkish
24. Greeks
26. Spanish
27. French


The Swiss!?! I'm sick of the Swiss! Link (new window)

 
mud_shark 2009-07-12 12:39:55 AM  
HairBolus: that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?


I knew you would be one of the Boobiesers in this thread. You are an asshat

And yes, I've been to foreign countries (including New Jersey)

Just kidding - I've been to actual foreign countries (although I've actually been to New Jersey too - I'll take Mexico over NJ any day of the week).

Go fark yourself.

 
Korzine 2009-07-12 12:40:09 AM  
12349876: Fano: The_Sponge: HairBolus: How many people in the US have even been outside of the US in their entire life?


You can add me to that list.

/Been to Canada, Mexico, and a large part of Central & Eastern Europe.
//Taking a cruise up to Canada in October.

Add me, Canada, Mexico, Jamaica.

Add me, Canada, Mexico, Costa Rica, 11 Western and Central European countries, and for partial credit Hawaii, US Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico


Me too, but just barely. I've only been to South Korea. Now I've traveled quite a bit in state. I do want to go to Mexico and Canada someday, probably after I graduate.

 
HairBolus 2009-07-12 12:40:21 AM  
Tellurianix: I wonder why they included Canadians but not Americans.

I'm guessing it's because Americans don't know there's a world outside the USA so don't travel.

/low hanging snarkfruit


Caught another one. This time one so blinded by ideology that he can't read.

 
YoungSwedishBlonde 2009-07-12 12:41:22 AM  
The French suck but Brazilians are easily the worst tourists.

 
ubertwit 2009-07-12 12:43:45 AM  
some of my coworkers are french. hate their condescending guts. as a result, I take great pleasure in farking with them with beavis speak.

 
Fano 2009-07-12 12:49:09 AM  
12349876: Fano: The_Sponge: HairBolus: How many people in the US have even been outside of the US in their entire life?


You can add me to that list.

/Been to Canada, Mexico, and a large part of Central & Eastern Europe.
//Taking a cruise up to Canada in October.

Add me, Canada, Mexico, Jamaica.

Add me, Canada, Mexico, Costa Rica, 11 Western and Central European countries, and for partial credit Hawaii, US Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico


Oops, didn't know I could include Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

 
Danger Avoid Death 2009-07-12 12:52:16 AM  
MyNameIsMofuga: Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?

I can see Mexico from my house.


I live in L.A.. I don't need to go to Mexico. It's already here.

 
cheesyfarker 2009-07-12 01:01:10 AM  
Most Americans don't travel outside of the country because most Americans CAN'T afford to.

 
DalaiLamaDingDong 2009-07-12 01:12:49 AM  
I used to work front desk at a hotel, best was Americans (I know, weird!) and worst was Australians

/Canadian

 
Gish21 2009-07-12 01:13:31 AM  
HairBolus:
In this sense the overall rankings are:
1. Japanese
2. British
3. Canadians
4. Germans
5. Swiss
6. Dutch
6. Australians
8. Swedish
8. Americans
10. Danes
10. Norwegians
10. Finnish
10. Belgians
14. Austrian
14. New Zealanders
16. Thais
17. Portuguese
17. Czechs
19. Italians
19. Irish
19. Brazilians
22. Polish
22. South Africans
24. Turkish
24. Greeks
26. Spanish
27. French


To be fair to the French, they didn't include Chinese or Russians in the list.

 
soundguy 2009-07-12 01:15:00 AM  
Japanese tourists are the best. My sister and brother-in-law renewed their vows in Vegas last year. It was a 70s-themed wedding and my BIL was wearing a leisure suit and platform heels. He's already tall and the heels put him close to 7 feet. We went out to dinner afterward and a group of Japanese girls at the next table came over and begged him to let them take a picture with him. It was hilarious. As they didn't speak much English we never did find out what it was all about, but my theory is that they thought he was Disco Godzilla.

 
Gish21 2009-07-12 01:15:34 AM  
cheesyfarker: Most Americans don't travel outside of the country because most Americans CAN'T afford to.

They seem to afford SUVs, iphones, and plasma tvs just fine.

 
HairBolus 2009-07-12 01:17:07 AM  
vertiaset: The problem with the French is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.


The problem with Southerners is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Midwesterners is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Jews is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Americans is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

 
nuclear_asshat 2009-07-12 01:17:42 AM  
Euler007: Canada would have finished first for best tourists, we got dragged down by all the americans with canadian flags on their backpacks.

Yeah. We've all heard that mythology.

It's one of those stories Canadians tell each other that no one can actually verify.
HairBolus: Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?

I've traveled more of Canada and Mexico than most Canadians or Mexicans. I don't think your statement is very fair. The truth is the vast majority of people in ANY country may not be able to travel any great distance. It's easy if you live in a border town/state/province, but if you live in the center of a large expansive country, its far more difficult to travel outside your country.

Being well traveled doesn't make you smarter, more informed, or better than anyone else. It just means you are well traveled.

 
DalaiLamaDingDong 2009-07-12 01:20:29 AM  
HairBolus: vertiaset: The problem with the French is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Southerners is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Midwesterners is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Jews is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Americans is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.


The problem with trolls is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

 
HairBolus 2009-07-12 01:20:48 AM  
Gish21: To be fair to the French, they didn't include Chinese or Russians in the list.

Or Israelis.

 
Danger Avoid Death 2009-07-12 01:23:36 AM  
Gish21: cheesyfarker: Most Americans don't travel outside of the country because most Americans CAN'T afford to.

They seem to afford SUVs, iphones, and plasma tvs just fine.


Yeah, but those are important!

 
12monkeys 2009-07-12 01:56:13 AM  
Americans have very little wiggle room when critiquing the fashion of tourists.
www.theyoungturks.co.uk
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

/going to London and Paris in November

 
HairBolus 2009-07-12 01:56:23 AM  
nuclear_asshat: Being well traveled doesn't make you smarter, more informed, or better than anyone else. It just means you are well traveled.

But it does tend to make you less ignorant about foreign cultures. How many ignorant folks hating on the French and demanding "freedom fries" knew anything about France other than what Bill O'Reilly told them.

I've traveled some in Eastern, Southern, and Western Europe. If you are adventurous you will come across Turkish toilets.

europeforvisitors.com

Many Americans on tours are protected from such experiences because it will start them screaming and demanding to be sent back to the good old USA rather than appreciating that non-luxury may mean different toilet fixtures.

 
lostcat 2009-07-12 02:00:10 AM  
I work in an office building that is on the edge of Chinatown in San Francisco. It seems like the French tourists are always rushing to get someplace, and travel in large packs, or in perfect little families of mommy, daddy and three little children dressed in Euro-tot tourist-wear.

While I like France, and the French, when in their natural environment, I tend to want to punch them in the face when I have to maneuver around a gaggle of them on Grant Street, and listen to their irritating nasal droning.

 
12monkeys 2009-07-12 02:07:03 AM  
nuclear_asshat: Being well traveled doesn't make you smarter, more informed, or better than anyone else. It just means you are well traveled.

Try telling that to a gypsy punk:

userserve-ak.last.fm

 
HairBolus 2009-07-12 02:26:13 AM  
vertiaset: The problem with your post is that mine is true and yours is not. This makes you a very unpleasant troll.

You were actually being serious? I thought you were just trolling by pretending to be a whacked out retard. But considering Poe's Law it is often hard to distinguish parody from the real thing.

 
basilbrush 2009-07-12 02:39:10 AM  
HairBolus: Gish21: To be fair to the French, they didn't include Chinese or Russians in the list.

Or Israelis.


This. I know if they surveyed New Zealand hotel owners 90% of them would say Israelis are the most arrogant, tight fisted pricks that walk the planet.

/ worked in the industry for 10 years

 
Rib 2009-07-12 02:40:58 AM  
vertiaset: HairBolus

vertiaset: The problem with the French is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Southerners is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Midwesterners is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Jews is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with Americans is that they have not yet accepted the fact that in the great lottery of history they have lost.
This makes them very unpleasant.

The problem with your post is that mine is true and yours is not. This makes you a very unpleasant troll.


Whoooosh. That's the sound of something going over vertiaset's head.

 
gas giant 2009-07-12 03:03:16 AM  
122 comments and no mention of the drunken, violent Aussie trustifarian brats that descend like liquored up locusts on the beaches of SoCal every summer?
I've been told that they come for the surfing, but they rarely seem to do anything but drink, fight and f*ck everyone and everything they encounter.

 
DalaiLamaDingDong 2009-07-12 03:05:42 AM  
gas giant: 122 comments and no mention of the drunken, violent Aussie trustifarian brats that descend like liquored up locusts on the beaches of SoCal every summer?
I've been told that they come for the surfing, but they rarely seem to do anything but drink, fight and f*ck everyone and everything they encounter.


I said aussies were the worst. They think peeing in the ice machine is funny.

 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 03:08:11 AM  
12monkeys: Americans have very little wiggle room when critiquing the fashion of tourists.

The relevance of your post escapes me..other than a substantiation of your trendy, avant-garde self-loathing.

12monkeys: /going to London and Paris in November

Awww...how cute, do you want a cookie? I am sure you are the first to have ever undertaken this magnificent feat!

 
RicosRoughnecks 2009-07-12 03:08:57 AM  
Well I'm going to Germany next tuesday and checking out London and Paris. I'll represent the U.S. well since I am not fat or loud. Any Limeys give me trouble and I'll tell them Dan hollywood Henderson is nearby and they will understandably run for fortified bunkers.

 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 03:09:47 AM  
DalaiLamaDingDong:

I said aussies were the worst. They think peeing in the ice machine is funny.


isn't your username the name of some chicks with huge hooters in Thailand?

 
virtdave 2009-07-12 03:17:41 AM  
Ugly Tourists are of several origins--in Budapest, far and away the creepiest are the Brits, where cheap airfares from the UK to Hungary have encouraged a sort of hooligan invasion. In Paris, Americans can be pretty irritating--many of them have never been around anyone who can't speak English, and they think that just speaking louder will get them understood.
The USA does have some nifty places to vacation in, but hey, the country is juvenile, both in history and in attitude. Europeans often think of Americans as big babies--cranky, loud and demanding. Of course, the French, especially when out of France, can be insufferable too.

 
DalaiLamaDingDong 2009-07-12 03:20:39 AM  
johnny_vegas: DalaiLamaDingDong:

I said aussies were the worst. They think peeing in the ice machine is funny.

isn't your username the name of some chicks with huge hooters in Thailand?


No, it's the Most Serene Hostess Cupcake

 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 03:27:18 AM  
DalaiLamaDingDong: johnny_vegas: DalaiLamaDingDong:

I said aussies were the worst. They think peeing in the ice machine is funny.

isn't your username the name of some chicks with huge hooters in Thailand?

No, it's the Most Serene Hostess Cupcake


so you say....

www.farangdingdong.com (NSFW)

 
Danielsan [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-12 03:31:20 AM  
I've done my fair share of traveling, and lived in the UK for 6 months and a year in China. Lording it over other people, though, is childish and snotty.

I call it the 'laowai syndrome', laowai being a colloquialism for foreigner in China. Do a bit of traveling and suddenly you're superior to the stupid oafs back home, who 'just don't get it, man'. I met a ton of Americans in China who wanted to write a book about living there, like they're Dr. Livingston or something.

 
gas giant 2009-07-12 03:33:46 AM  
DalaiLamaDingDong: I said aussies were the worst.

I know, I just wanted to mention that particular subset of Aussie tourists and was frankly a little surprised that nobody had mentioned them already.

/One of them once spit on my friend's girlfriend because she dared to resist his bogan charms.

 
DalaiLamaDingDong 2009-07-12 03:40:04 AM  
gas giant: DalaiLamaDingDong: I said aussies were the worst.

I know, I just wanted to mention that particular subset of Aussie tourists and was frankly a little surprised that nobody had mentioned them already.

/One of them once spit on my friend's girlfriend because she dared to resist his bogan charms.


Actually worse than aussies, is RAF on leave.

 
HairBolus 2009-07-12 03:40:42 AM  
Rib: Whoooosh. That's the sound of something going over vertiaset's head.

If you look at vertiaset's profile he gives a 'real name' that actually might be his real name or might be something referring to
2. a fictional character in the novel Atlas Shrugged
3. a fictional character in the video game Wing Commander

On reading his post I get the impression that all 3 are wrapped into one.

 
qwertypoo 2009-07-12 04:31:04 AM  
DalaiLamaDingDong: gas giant: 122 comments and no mention of the drunken, violent Aussie trustifarian brats that descend like liquored up locusts on the beaches of SoCal every summer?
I've been told that they come for the surfing, but they rarely seem to do anything but drink, fight and f*ck everyone and everything they encounter.

I said aussies were the worst. They think peeing in the ice machine is funny.


They sound like typical moron football players on a team trip. Most of them act like shiat throwing apes here too.
They didn't all have tattoos of the Southern Cross on their arms or back by any chance? That's usually a sure sign that someone can't handle alcohol.

 
Gobobo 2009-07-12 04:31:48 AM  
As this is the thread for bigotry, I'd like to throw my hat in the ring for the Russian tourist generally having unsociable behaviour.

And the Chinese tourist isn't much better, but they're smaller and so easier to crush.

 
DalaiLamaDingDong 2009-07-12 04:52:43 AM  
qwertypoo: DalaiLamaDingDong: gas giant: 122 comments and no mention of the drunken, violent Aussie trustifarian brats that descend like liquored up locusts on the beaches of SoCal every summer?
I've been told that they come for the surfing, but they rarely seem to do anything but drink, fight and f*ck everyone and everything they encounter.

I said aussies were the worst. They think peeing in the ice machine is funny.

They sound like typical moron football players on a team trip. Most of them act like shiat throwing apes here too.
They didn't all have tattoos of the Southern Cross on their arms or back by any chance? That's usually a sure sign that someone can't handle alcohol.


Not that I noticed. They were a rugby team. Need I say more?

 
sn0r 2009-07-12 05:24:45 AM  
simpsonfan: When the Dutch talk, it almost sounds like they are spitting.

Yep. That's us.

As for me, having been all over the place as well here's my $0.02:

- Japanese are the friendliest ever.
- English are the most hospitable.
- Germans have the best beer and steal your sunbeds (what a surprise).
- Indonesians are polite to a fault.
- Thai people have a great sense of humour.
- Belgians are either very amicable or very stuck up (North vs. South).
- Finns are very open and friendly but drink waaay too much.
- French: don't even get me started. Worst. Tourists. Ever.
- Spanish are flamboyant and speak their mind.
- Italians are macho pigs. Even the women.
- U.S. citizens are great.. when they're not in the U.S.
- Canadians are laid back.
- South Koreans are maniacs. The good kind.
- Australians love a good time.
- Russians are pretty bad. Think mafia meets ghetto trash.
- Israelis are friendly, just don't mention the problems there.
- Brazilians are like the Spanish on crack.
- Polish tourists are like the Brits on crack (or bigos).

 
Kaymon 2009-07-12 05:30:42 AM  
The last batch of tour groups in my hotel had a few French tourists. One of 'em refused to speak any english, or even try to communicate with us. (heck, he wouldn't even so much as look at us. He had someone else doing everything for him) He called in his credit card as stolen during his stay, so we never received payment for him.

And of course the contact information we had for him (and everyone else in his room) was bogus. So thank you, France, for your contribution to our perception on you.

/it's not typical of French tourists, but it's happened with more of them than any others.
//Niagara Falls area

 
qwertypoo 2009-07-12 05:34:38 AM  
DalaiLamaDingDong:
Not that I noticed. They were a rugby team. Need I say more?


Rugby teams are the worst of the worst. They're like 14 year olds in an adults body, who aren't "one of the boys" unless they drink themselves stupid, intimidate anyone who doesn't get out of their way, treat every wall as a urinal, and be willing to line up and tag team a passed out drunk woman.
Great to hear they're pulling the same shiat overseas and making us all look like assholes :/

 
Jamieboy 2009-07-12 05:50:42 AM  
When they are at home, I find the French very warm and welcoming. Spent more than one vacation, and several long drawn out business trips in France, and felt very much at home. I just wish I could have mastered the language better. France is farking awesome, as many of you know, but I still prefer NW Scotland to anywhere else on earth.

I know a French couple, temporally living in the US, and they freely admit their fellow countrymen are real b'stards when abroad. Why?, I ask, and they just do that shrug the French do.

Gobobo:

And the Chinese tourist isn't much better, but they're smaller and so easier to crush.


I was strap hanging on a very crowed city bus, and I had a Chinese tourist pinch my arm so hard when he wanted off, it bled. That guy came sooooo close to getting clocked, my fist was raised, but another passenger caught my arm and said he had called 911. Thank FSM he did, or it would have been me arrested and would have died of rabies or some other weird Asian disease in jail. The police called the incident assault, and insisted I go to the hospital. Don't know what happened to the happy tourist. Hope he DIAF.

 
2chris2 2009-07-12 06:33:03 AM  
HairBolus: that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?


Comparison of the size of the U.S. with western europe. Note that this doesn't even include Alaska, which is about as large as France and the U.K. combined.

i28.tinypic.com

 
HairBolus 2009-07-12 06:42:07 AM  
mud_shark: I knew you would be one of the Boobiesers in this thread. You are an asshat

And yes, I've been to foreign countries (including New Jersey)

Go fark yourself.


Awww. It looks like I have a fan struggling with a love/hate relation and maybe sexuality problems.

(p.s. I heard Zappa do Mud Shark in concert, so you can't be totaly evil)

 
Dampfplauderer 2009-07-12 09:09:08 AM  
i28.tinypic.com

Hamburg is the capital of Germany ? The more you know...

 
captmingus 2009-07-12 09:17:33 AM  
that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?

This fiscal quarter?

 
whobeanie 2009-07-12 09:47:55 AM  
chisum: because the french keep stealing the sheets to make surrender flags

You made me lawl in my juice.

 
Thunderpipes 2009-07-12 10:21:10 AM  
koan: The_Sponge:
Riiight....because the only worthwhile travel in the U.S. involves visiting retail shops. I'll be one of the last people to say negative things about foreign travel, but just think of all the fantastic vacation opportunities we have:

The greatest point of traveling is not a new scenery but opening your mind to different cultures, ways of life and new ideas.

I rarely meet well traveled closed minded ignoramuses. The opposite, however, is common.

/if you can't travel, at least read.


BS.

 
Mr. Breeze 2009-07-12 10:37:03 AM  
HairBolus: that 90 percent of French people did their traveling at home.

Before the ignorant USA is #1 crowd chimes in, what percentage of Americans do their traveling at home? What percentage have even been to Canada or Mexico?


I've been to Mexico, and 9 Euro countries, and 3 Middle Eastern ones.

 
whatshisname 2009-07-12 10:39:03 AM  
Jaws_Victim: I get so sick and tired of Europeans complaining Americans never go to other countries. Some dutch guy I was arguing with was criticizing Americans for not having passports which "every European has." I told him we didn't NEED passports to travel within the states

Europeans don't need a passport to travel within Europe.

 
Mr. Breeze 2009-07-12 10:40:27 AM  
Oh, and the Japanese are nice people, except if you are in the way of a tour group. Then you get swept out of the way by the tsunami of people with large cameras.

I'm 5'7" though, so I can easily see over their heads.

 
IslanderInExile 2009-07-12 10:49:12 AM  
I've worked in hotels and restaurants for ten years in the Florida Keys, and I agree that the French are the worst. But all of you polite, friendly Canadians, please, PLEASE learn how to tip. Three dollars on a $40 lunch is not a good tip. Eight dollars on $100 is not a good tip. And telling me what a good job I did just makes me assume that I'm getting a shiatty cash tip. Believe me, servers hate the "verbal tip".

It's understandable when Europeans don't tip well, because they're not used to it. But when Canadians tip poorly, they're just being cheap.

For the record I've been to Canada, Mexico, the UK and Germany. Once I get out from under $50K worth of student loans, I'll go elsewhere.

 
hovsm 2009-07-12 11:20:32 AM  
The one thing that caught my eye was their lack of learning the language of the country they are visiting. When I visited France, the only thing that really bugged them was that I couldn't speak French well. Many of them told me that if you visit France you should speak the language out of respect......yeah no hypocrisy there.

 
yuri82 2009-07-12 11:37:17 AM  
As a Brazilian I am shocked. I thought my people were the worst. I don't know what the Frenchies are doing, but it has to be really BAD.

Well, the problem is that the study takes the country as a whole. The rich Brazilians are more civilized. The poor ones cut in line, swear, biatch, argue loudly, try to scam you, beat up their kids, steal, etc.

Maybe they only studied the expensive hotels.

 
DeerNuts 2009-07-12 12:04:19 PM  
12monkeys: Americans have very little wiggle room when critiquing the fashion of tourists.

(Picture of fat ugly American tourists in wretched costume)

/going to London and Paris in November



This! This is one of the most annoying farking things that tourists of all nationalities do. For some reason they think that vacation means it's time to drag out their most awful wretched ugly-ass clothes and walk around looking like rejects from trailer parks.

My thinking is that when I travel to another country (or hell, another state) I'm visiting somebody's home. And when I'm out of the country, people form their opinions of Americans based partly on me. I'm going to give other countries the respect they deserve and leave a good impression in any way I can.

And no, you dumb trolls I don't wear a suit to the beach. But nor do I visit a cathedral wearing a Budweiser frogs t-shirt and cutoff jean shorts. There's a little thing called respect.

 
lilbjorn 2009-07-12 12:16:29 PM  
French tourists received some consolation for their poor performance, finishing third after the Italians and British for dress sense while on holiday.

The French dress worse than the Brits? Oh dear!

 
DeerNuts 2009-07-12 12:23:03 PM  
When we're calling American mouth-breathing troglodytes because many have never been outside the US, maybe we should look at distance traveled rather than number of countries visited. Looking at the maps above, continental US is bigger than all of Europe. The distance I would travel just getting out of the hellhole of Texas could take me through three or four entire countries in Europe.

So if we want to get all uppity, I've visited almost all of the lower 48 states. How many Eurpoeans have visited all the countries in Europe? Just for the record I have traveled outside the US.

When I was in high school we had a Swedish foreign exchange student in my German class. This was in Atlanta. She told me that over the weekend she had talked to her father, and he asked her if she was going to take a little trip over the weekend sometime to Texas. He didn't quite understand the distances involved. Hell, I still can't get over the fact that I could start driving now from Houston and twelve hours laster still be in the same frakkin state.

 
Zazou 2009-07-12 12:50:09 PM  
Hell, I still can't get over the fact that I could start driving now from Houston and twelve hours laster still be in the same frakkin state.

Yeah, I once owned a car like that......

 
BunkyBrewman [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 01:13:29 PM  
ubertwit: some of my coworkers are french. hate their condescending guts. as a result, I take great pleasure in farking with them with beavis speak.

Just remind them that you were never tempted to move to another country to better your life.

/works every time

 
Ecaps [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 01:14:45 PM  
DeerNuts: Hell, I still can't get over the fact that I could start driving now from Houston and twelve hours laster still be in the same frakkin stateprovince.

Welcome to Ontario. Yours to Discover.

 
Haplo127x 2009-07-12 01:45:46 PM  
Ecaps: DeerNuts: Hell, I still can't get over the fact that I could start driving now from Houston and twelve hours laster still be in the same frakkin stateprovince.

Welcome to Ontario. Yours to Discover.


Oh heck yes. Northern Ontario lasts forever. My advice to anyone driving through is to take your fishing pole and camping gear because you are going to be there for a bit.

 
Mr. Breeze 2009-07-12 02:06:42 PM  
DeerNuts: When we're calling American mouth-breathing troglodytes because many have never been outside the US, maybe we should look at distance traveled rather than number of countries visited. Looking at the maps above, continental US is bigger than all of Europe. The distance I would travel just getting out of the hellhole of Texas could take me through three or four entire countries in Europe.

So if we want to get all uppity, I've visited almost all of the lower 48 states. How many Eurpoeans have visited all the countries in Europe? Just for the record I have traveled outside the US.

When I was in high school we had a Swedish foreign exchange student in my German class. This was in Atlanta. She told me that over the weekend she had talked to her father, and he asked her if she was going to take a little trip over the weekend sometime to Texas. He didn't quite understand the distances involved. Hell, I still can't get over the fact that I could start driving now from Houston and twelve hours laster still be in the same frakkin state.



This. I drove from Belgium, through Germany, Austria, Italy, Switzerland, and France all in 10 days, taking one and two day stops in each country.

In contrast. It takes 25 hours of straight driving to get from central Montana to St Louis. And that's not even halfway across the country.

 
treesloth 2009-07-12 02:30:11 PM  
Mr. Breeze: I'm 5'7" though, so I can easily see over their heads.

I'm 6' 7", so they usually try to make me fight an alien or atomic supermonster.

Strange Japanese tourist story... I was working for a time at Pier 1 Imports after high school. While I was a work, a group of Japanese tourists came in the store, looked around, got a few trinkets, and left. As they were getting in their van, one of them went and stood next to my car (they didn't know it was mine). He waved to the others and they went over to it. This was an early model Ford Tempo. They posed next to it, leaning on it, etc., and took pictures. After about 5 minutes of taking pictures with my car, they got in the van and left. I have no idea what the crap was up with that. I can only assume that once they got in the van they checked "Take picture of yourself posing with massive POS" off a scavenger hunt checklist.

 
whatshisname 2009-07-12 04:51:45 PM  
IslanderInExile: Canadians, please, PLEASE learn how to tip. Three dollars on a $40 lunch is not a good tip. Eight dollars on $100 is not a good tip.

Maybe you need to learn how to serve?
Let's see... on a $100 meal you probably spent, what, 12 minutes total at the table, so the $8 works out to $40 an hour. Seems fair to me for unskilled manual labour.

I'll never understand the entitlement attitude of waiters.

 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 05:30:43 PM  
whatshisname: IslanderInExile: Canadians, please, PLEASE learn how to tip. Three dollars on a $40 lunch is not a good tip. Eight dollars on $100 is not a good tip.

Maybe you need to learn how to serve?
Let's see... on a $100 meal you probably spent, what, 12 minutes total at the table, so the $8 works out to $40 an hour. Seems fair to me for unskilled manual labour.

I'll never understand the entitlement attitude of waiters I'm a farking cheapskate.


/yeah for shame, those unwashed masses that should be happy to live to serve you
//you probably need to look up the word entitlement

 
drucee 2009-07-12 06:46:32 PM  
Anyone using the old "America is huge and has a crappy transport system, so that's why we don't travel" excuse may be right, but only partially--Australians and New Zealanders live in countries that are more isolated and similarly vast, but manage to travel the world almost as a rite of passage. As a nation, we Americans need to get out beyond our borders more. I'm guilty of not traveling enough as well--although I've been to 38 states, three Canadian provinces, France, and the UK, I've still not traveled enough, especially in Europe.

As far as the world's worst tourists, I'd say New Yorkers--they're loud, cranky, pushy, condescending, and critical of EVERYTHING. We Minnesotans don't like being referred to as a "flyover state" and being told that there's nothing between New York and LA.

 
whatshisname 2009-07-12 07:01:47 PM  
johnny_vegas:
I'm a farking cheapskate.

/yeah for shame, those unwashed masses that should be happy to live to serve you
//you probably need to look up the word entitlement


I'm quite happy to tip well for good service. Not so happy having a waiter tell me I need to learn how to tip. And that's the problem with a lot of people in the service industry. You can see straight through them. They don't have any interest in doing a good job and making sure you enjoy your meal beyond their calculations of a potential tip. And don't get me started on the threats of spit or worse in your food if you fail to live up to their expectations.

I have no doubt that within 10 years, we'll be told that 25% is the standard tip for good service.

You seem to be fairly well traveled. You must realize that this attitude is pretty much exclusive to North America ans the US in particular?

 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark] 2009-07-12 07:15:23 PM  
whatshisname: johnny_vegas:
I'm a farking cheapskate.

/yeah for shame, those unwashed masses that should be happy to live to serve you
//you probably need to look up the word entitlement

I'm quite happy to tip well for good service. Not so happy having a waiter tell me I need to learn how to tip. And that's the problem with a lot of people in the service industry. You can see straight through them. They don't have any interest in doing a good job and making sure you enjoy your meal beyond their calculations of a potential tip. And don't get me started on the threats of spit or worse in your food if you fail to live up to their expectations.

I have no doubt that within 10 years, we'll be told that 25% is the standard tip for good service.

You seem to be fairly well traveled. You must realize that this attitude is pretty much exclusive to North America ans the US in particular?


I agree with your sentiments, to a degree, and i admit I misread the intent of your post. That said, exclusive or not, tipping is the custom in the US. As far as I know, it is factored into the salaries of waiters also. Though prob not factored in, the waiters generally pool part of the tips to give a small share to busboys.

 
yuri82 2009-07-12 09:48:28 PM  
I'm an ex-waiter. We used to say people should only be allowed to eat at restaurants if they had waited tables before. I still agree with that statement.

However, I would prefer if tipping was banned and people got paid salaries for waiting tables. Same with tax calculations at the end of the purchase. Stick it in the price. Sure, let me know at the receipt how much I paid in taxes so I can complain about it.

 
12monkeys 2009-07-12 11:25:14 PM  
johnny_vegas: 12monkeys: Americans have very little wiggle room when critiquing the fashion of tourists.

The relevance of your post escapes me..other than a substantiation of your trendy, avant-garde self-loathing.

12monkeys: /going to London and Paris in November

Awww...how cute, do you want a cookie? I am sure you are the first to have ever undertaken this magnificent feat!


Reeeeow! Who peed in your cheerios this morning, dude? I was merely pointing out (with the help of some humorous pictures) the irony of the Americans critiquing the fashion of tourists from other countries when Americans are themselves known for poor clothing choices when it comes to tourism. As for my mentioning going to Paris and London for my honeymoon, I just thought it was relevant to the thread, being about both the French and tourism. Not to mention the fact that I'm just excited about visiting London again as well as seeing Les Catacombes in Paris.

 
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