Chaghatai: In muscular people in fact, the spine is a furrow between the muscles.

that's how my spine looks. it looks rather sexy.

but, seriously

I'm just under 6 foot 1 and about 225-230, so i suppose if you go by 'the charts' I'm about 25 pounds overweight.

The ideal weight thingy is a LIE. It said I'm 'supposed to be' like 170 pounds. I was that in HS and I was way too skinny. I think my ideal weight, given my build, is about 200 or so. So, yeah, Im carrying some dumbbells around (when i'm not at the gym even)

But, fark, there's being overweight, then there's being fat, and then there's being obese and then there is WTF?!?

Is our submitter in a rag-on-a-stick hygiene scenario? Because 18 is well into the plus sizes.

Unless the submitter is arguing that we're getting so huge that 16 isn't a plus size even, then I can silently nod my assent.

The thin will starve before the fat loose weight.

AbbeySomeone: lstywnch: brigid_fitch: Plus size starts at 14W, which is like a 16 Misses.

When I still worked in retail selling women's clothing they actually had 10Ws.

What confuses me is size 14 or whatever with P for petite. Don't they mean short and squat? 12/14 are the first sizes to sell out.

Exactly. Petite has more to do w/inseam, torso, & arm length than someone's frame. Petite is considered 4'11" to 5'3". Average is 5'3½" to 5'7½".

Size 12/14 are the first to sell out in practically everything. That's right on the cusp of Medium & Large.

If I were a clothing designer I would incorporate the following into my plus size products: heavy duty reinforced inner thigh material to withstand the high friction and super absorbant crotch liner to soak up the fatty sweat juices. Might make them think twice about that chocolate fudge sundae for dessert.

Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin

aerojockey: robohobo
Good riddance, era of liesurely pretentiousnesclass pulling a arbitrary standard out of your ass and making character judgments against people who reject it because they can see it for the pretentious sanctimonious bullshiat that it is.

ftfy

I suggest you take your antidisestablishmentarianism back to your stodgy, crusty old tea buddies Free Republic.

/P.S. I'm a Republican
//just not that kind

Oh, chocolatepuke, you gone and done it now. No matter how many beads they promise, keep your shirt on. They never pay up.

Shrinkwrap: I wasn't aware that the male ideal was a size 12...

I don't think it is. I would rather have the size zero, since it's easy for a woman to gain weight but really hard to get the size 18 to lose any weight. The size eight in that line up was clearly the hottest. Maybe I'm biased since I'm a pretty skinny guy.

zephyy: LesserEvil: zephyy: fat people are the scum of the earth

unless they're funny male comedians, then they get a pass, but only them.

You sound like a bag of antlers

i had to urbandictionary that, i'm 5'10 and about 110-115 pounds

not holocaust victim looking but all my ribs and my sternum is visible

also male

Also cancer-ridden.

FTFA "If the dress wasn't a tiny size 18, there would be less," Reller said. "It's a very small size 18, so that makes the numbers a lot larger."

Whoever said that sounds fat.

Nice job zamboni. Why did it take that long for somebody to do that?

lstywnch: themathgeek: Um...Could someone please tell me how much you would weigh if you wear a size 28. I tried to google it but that didn't work so well for me. Thanks.

That would depend on how tall you are.

A friend of mine is 5'11" and used to be a big-time fatty. I just looked up her weight-loss blog & when she was a size 28, she weighed 325.

Someone could be a lot shorter & weigh around 275 and still be a size 28.

Chach: Is our submitter in a rag-on-a-stick hygiene scenario? Because 18 is well into the plus sizes.

Unless the submitter is arguing that we're getting so huge that 16 isn't a plus size even, then I can silently nod my assent.

I believe that was subbys argument

I'm pushing the former "plus size" boundary at size 12-14. I'm 5'10" so I'm not grotesquely fat, bit I am definitely overweight. I'd argue that anyone bigger than a 12 is fat, since few ladies are taller than I am. Vanity sizing is so frusterating

Size 28 walking up and down the aisles all flight? Time to avoid aisle seats, folks.

RandomTux: FTA: [Reller said,] It's a very small size 18, so that makes the numbers a lot larger.

Oh for fark's sake... While there is indeed such thing as "small" size X, the reality is quite opposite. The designer labels keep sliding sizes up, so that today size 4 is yesterday's 6 or 8, so that the increasingly fat population feels better. She claims it's the other way around.

THIS! I've been sewing for over 25 years and have to keep remembering that although I'm a size 12 now, I can't make a size 12 from any of my vintage patterns or even ones from the 80s. It'd turn out too small.

At least we know where Carmen Sandiego is now.

All of this consternation (not to mention the TSA lines) could be eliminated if only we had beaming technology.

chocolatepuke: GT_bike: chocolatepuke: That anorexic woman in the shot above might wear a size 0, but it would be baggy on her. That is unless she's 5'9 or above. I'm 5'5, wear a size 2 and I'm nowhere near that skinny. I have DD boobs! And no, my clothes are not too tight.

yer profile and comments are useless without pics


How come I have to show a picture and no one else does?

That's interesting, because I am 5'4", weigh 120 and I wear a 8/10 depending on the manufacturer. What another poster said earlier about expensive makers size range being more generous is also true, because I can wear a 6 in that bracket but never ever would be able to fit in a size 6 in more mainstream clothing lines. So yeah, clothing sizing is pretty farked up.

/Pic in profile for reference purposes. Get your eye bleach!

gadian: In this thread I sense a lot of "waahh, there aren't any hot women to oggle on air planes! Waaah, I wanna be able to fly with a stiffy and get off on the idea of an attractive woman serving me because this is the only time this is going to ever happen. I deserve the right to act like unrestrained disgusting pigs." Booh frikkin' ho. Get over it, women aren't on airplanes simply for your pleasure.

/wants equality on airlines - more fatties and more men and fatty men.

You sound...wait, why don't you guess what I'm about to say. I'll give you a hint. Not the PH kind.

frizzantik: the words "plus size" don't even occur in the article, subby.. you're the one interpreting what plus-sized means

You sound really fat.

Synaesthesia: The thin will starve before the fat loose weight.


If the thin could learn to eat the liposuction waste we could solve three problems at once.

There's nothing more annoying than a fat arse knocking into you every time it walks up and down the aisle in a plane.

/always requests the window seat now

ScottHimself- You sound...wait, why don't you guess what I'm about to say. I'll give you a hint. Not the PH kind

Acidic?

I used to work at an airport and I gotta tell ya. JAL and KAL still get it. I've never EVER seen an unattractive stewardess working for either airline.



/hotlinked
//for my pleasure

cauth002: Not all size 0's are a bag of antlers. I'm 5'3, small-boned, and a size 0. I like to think of myself as a normal, small size. If I weighed 115, I'd look a little overweight. Of course someone is going to be discustingly skinny if they are a size 0 and 6 feet tall.

How you doin?!
Don't know what you weigh or what size you are, but you are extremely fetching!

No matter what the size of the flight attendant, there is no reason that her uniform must plunge down below her sternum like that. Other than to tantilize the rich males in first/business class. Personally, I prefer functional uniforms (such as those worn by Southwest staff), so that in case of emergency they're able to dash up and down the aisle to aid passengers.

Perhaps anyone who has purchased a ticket should be able to go to Delta's website and score each flight attendant, and below a certain score is terminated. "But the job isn't about being sexy. It's about safety." Well, make it about whatever the customer thinks it is. Can't argue with that.

pivazena: brigid_fitch: cherryl taggart: Size friggin 28!! Do commercial looms make cloth that wide?

Largest I've seen in retail stores & on sewing patterns is a size 32 (5X). And size 32 clothing is really nothing more than tricked-out muu muus and other tent-like items. Here are a couple of typical outfits that go up to size 32:

/Note, model in 1st pic is probably a 22/24W. The 2nd model is probably an 18W
//Fabric is typically available in bolts of 2 sizes: 45" & 60" wide

Why do you figure they still sketched skinny modes wearing those designs when they're clearly designed for bigger ladies?

Also, that first model doesn't look half bad. A well-tailored outfit goes a long way.

I double-checked--the first model is a size 20. The 2nd model is a 14/16. And they put pretty, full-figured models on the covers instead of real fatties because women who are actually size 32 are freakin' scary! A friend of mine was a HUGE fatty (425lbs @ 5'11") and I remember one "full figure fashion" catalogue she had. They used size 32 models for some of their fashions. OMG! There wasn't enough eye bleach.

My friend wasn't that bad because she was so tall & distributed the weight well. She was still a fatty, but nowhere near as dumpy & as the hideous women in this catalogue.

Regardless of a woman's body size, she can find an outfit that she looks genuinely good in (if she knows where to look). But not all dresses look good on all women. The offending dress in TFA would look ridiculous on a size 28.

That said...

In the old days of passenger flight, there was plenty of leg room, the food was amazing, and the flight attendants were all young and beautiful. Yes lads, you're right. That's because ticket prices were heavily regulated and airlines could only compete on service. The seats were farther apart because there were far fewer people on each flight. Even then planes were often half-empty.

After deregulation airlines could compete on price, and did just that. Turned out the surest way to fill up your plane is to charge low fares, and that is just what airlines now do.

Turns out people don't miss the perks much. Even in the old days the gourmet dinners mostly went uneaten. And the jokes about "coffee, tea or me" aside, even in the old days "she" was never on the refreshment list. Nowadays the lonely business traveler whose wife hasn't touched him in years unless she wanted some trinket or other has plenty of other options for fantasy material--downloading porn in his hotel room comes to mind.

Farkers, you can still fly on five-star airlines with five-star food and perfect-ten flight attendants, like Emirates and Singapore. You'll have to pay through the nose to do it of course, like in the old days (and the attendants still won't put out). If you're not willing to pay for eye candy, you have no right to complain when you don't get it.

Stewardesses were an obvious target for the feminists because they were forced to retire at age 35 (OMG! the discrimination!) But realistically it is the the ideal job for a young single female who is footloose and fancy free, and not a life time career. I'm sick and tired of dealing with bitter grumpy old hags.

I can't imagine a size 28 being able to navigate the aisle in a commercial airliner. I have sat in the aisle seat with a size 16 fatty walking the cart up and down, and bumping every passenger along the way with her jelly rolls. There are certain jobs that call for a level of fitness, stewardess is one of them. A size 28 must have to have a tent retrofitted.

Take a look at ANA, JAL and Thai air stews. They take great pride in the appearance of their employees.

A friend of mine is a hot Swedish flight attendant, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...

/awesome lower back tat
//can't see the whole thing unless her pants are off
///has seen the whole thing
/giggity

These are exactly the kind of problems that unions cause.

Then the result is always lower quality product or service.

Look what the UAW did to the auto industry.

cherryl taggart: Oh, chocolatepuke, you gone and done it now. No matter how many beads they promise, keep your shirt on. They never pay up.

[frantically waves hands]

Ix-nay on the ever-nay up-pay!!

/ some of us do
// on a flight right now
/// somewhere above Illinois
//// yay for GoGo wireless!

Droshki: These are exactly the kind of problems that unions cause.

Then the result is always lower quality product or service.

Look what the UAW did to the auto industry.

Destroyed Michigan's economy.

If their ass is wider than the drink cart they need to be grounded until they get on the StairMaster.

On a side note....

/Hooters Air had the right idea when it comes to uniforms...

That Korea Air commercial makes me want to fly.

Xerxes99: /Hooters Air had the right idea when it comes to uniforms...

In the unlikely event of a water landing, your flight attendant may be used as a personal flotation device..

The sooner they drop 'Vanity Sizing' and go to sizes like menswear the sooner fat chicks will lose the unhealthy weight they drag around. Yes, I said fat chicks, you are only fooling yourself if you think a size 52" butt is 'Plus Sized'/'Husky' and the ever popular BBW, which is nothing more than a euphemism for overweight women to let them feel better about themselves all the while killing themselves slowly as the pounds add up. Vanity sizes change every year, but a 52" butt in 1969 is still a 52" butt in 2009.

Someone may not mind being a vanity size 14, but when they have to buy size 52" pants after a while, nobody wants to be seen buying circus tent underwear...

CommandantVonThrash Quote 2009-07-11 04:37:19 PM
Shrinkwrap: The_Philosopher_King: Here is a comparison of sizes in England. You have to click since you can see a bare tush.

NSFW Link (new window)

I wasn't aware that the male ideal was a size 12...

Remember, it's from England.

I defy anyone to pull up a lad mag or page 3 girl pic who is as fat as that 12 shown in the comparison. Whoever did that survey must have only asked couples while the wife was present. The women told the truth and the guys wanted to get farked sometime in the next month or at least still sleep in their own bed.

I'm married to a size 18. She's fat.

I put on a pair of 24W pants that were left at my counter.

I put my entire body into one leg and zipped those farkers.

24W means 2 X 4 WIDE.

UnspokenVoice: Just yell at them out the window if you see a fatty. They might give you the finger but you know damned well they can't run long enough to actually catch you. If you're like a buddy of mine you get a rather nasty fine for hitting one with an empty beer can while riding as a passenger. I'd not recommend following him though.

I in no way approve of this, but a couple years back a friend decided to zing an egg at a huge ghetto-fab black woman with red hair. I don't think he intended to pop the shiat out of her face, but he did. Was really kind of messed up.

Roga Danar: At least we know where Carmen Sandiego is now.

You win sir. Shall I bag this internets to go?

redsquid: ScottHimself- You sound...wait, why don't you guess what I'm about to say. I'll give you a hint. Not the PH kind

Acidic?

That was going to be my smartass answer if anyone mentioned it. Damn you.

Fluff Girl: Greek: it really was like making love to a bag of antlers. Painful sometimes.

**checks username**

You should have rolled her over every once in a while.
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Hey, now! :)

Xerxes99: If their ass is wider than the drink cart they need to be grounded until they get on the StairMaster.

On a side note....

/Hooters Air had the right idea when it comes to uniforms...

That's what i'm talkin' about. She's either a size 0 or a 2.