vertiaset
Hey young people. There was a time when air travel was glamorous and exclusive. You ate from china, the Stewardesses were all pretty young women. Service was how the airlines competed with one another. Even in coach you had room to stretch out and relax. People dressed up to travel. Men wore suits, women nice dresses. You rarely saw children on flights and when you did they were well behaved and quiet. Poor people didn't fly, they road the bus.

/it was a golden age.

Oh, the Nineteen Hundred and Sixties, before the advent of cellphones, portable computers, PDAs and fast, wireless internet connections. Magic times, indeed.

FTA: "But the job isn't about being sexy. It's about safety."

This woman represents everything wrong with the modern aviation industry.

Weidermeijer: One of my old bosses was a PanAm stewardess in the 50's. She had certain weight and other restrictions that she had to abide by... kind of like a model. If you were on the lower end, you went to Des Moines. If you were on the upper end you went on overseas routes, like London or Paris. Apparently she was on the upper end, but when I knew her she was in her 60s... but she liked to reminisce about the old times.


They also would have inspections where they would have to weigh in and walk back and forth past their supervisors who would pick at how they looked. They couldn't be married, either. One of my flight attendants used to work for them back in the day and was telling me about how finicky they were. I have to say, the lady still looks damn good for her age, they picked the good ones.

Today, they pay them nothing and as long as they can do the demos, know where the emergency eqipment is located, and can open the doors, they are good to go. There is no mandatory retirement age, so you still have these old battle axes in their late 60's and 70's who trod to work a couple times a month (international) just for something to do. Since the hot, young ones don't have the uber senority to fly to the best places and get stuck with the shiat schedules and overnights, they don't stick around as long (usually). And the cycle repeats itself.

chocolatepuke

How come I have to show a picture and no one else does?

You have to have a picture in your profile as a prerequisite for talking about your cup size, it's the rules.

(Note: picture doesn't actually have to be you, as long as it's hot.)

drxym- You'd think airlines could put a limit on their pilots and stewardess' weights to some reasonable limit. After all we hear of airlines cutting a single chocolate from the dinner tray for economic reasons, so excising pounds of lard needlessly flown between destinations makes perfect sense.

Chocolate doesn't have a union.

Surprised this wasn't posted yet-
'Waitress in the Sky' by The Replacements-

She don't wear no pants and she don't wear no tie
Always on the ball, she's always on strike
Struttin' up the aisle, big deal, you get to fly
You ain't nothin' but a waitress in the sky
You ain't nothin' but a waitress in the sky

Paid my fare, don't wanna complain
You get to me, you're always outta champagne
Treat me like a bum, don't wear no tie
'cause you ain't nothin' but a waitress in the sky
You ain't nothin' but a waitress in the sky

And the sign says, "Thank you very much for not smoking"
My own sign says, "I'm sorry, I'm smokin'"
Don't treat me special, don't kiss my ass
Treat me like the way they treat 'em up in first class

Sanitation expert and a maintenance engineer
Garbage man, a janitor and you my dear
A real union flight attendant, my oh my
You ain't nothin' but a waitress in the sky
You ain't nothin' but a waitress in the sky
You ain't nothin' but a waitress in the sky

The_Philosopher_King: NSFW Link (new window)

One of each please!

chocolatepuke: That anorexic woman in the shot above might wear a size 0, but it would be baggy on her. That is unless she's 5'9 or above. I'm 5'5, wear a size 2 and I'm nowhere near that skinny. I have DD boobs! And no, my clothes are not too tight.

Maybe not, but now my pants are.

Dialectic: vertiaset
Hey young people. There was a time when air travel was glamorous and exclusive. You ate from china, the Stewardesses were all pretty young women. Service was how the airlines competed with one another. Even in coach you had room to stretch out and relax. People dressed up to travel. Men wore suits, women nice dresses. You rarely saw children on flights and when you did they were well behaved and quiet. Poor people didn't fly, they road the bus.

/it was a golden age.

Oh, the Nineteen Hundred and Sixties, before the advent of cellphones, portable computers, PDAs and fast, wireless internet connections. Magic times, indeed.

It's not all about tech. It's about a preferable culture. Also, screw the sixties. Stain on history. The mid 40's to early 50's is where it's at. Good times.

I was watching an old movie where the people got on the plane before getting a ticket. Once the plane was leaving, a steward came through the isle and everyone paid him.

I saw that same system on a train when I was a kid. I wonder if they still do it that way.

Not all size 0's are a bag of antlers. I'm 5'3, small-boned, and a size 0. I like to think of myself as a normal, small size. If I weighed 115, I'd look a little overweight. Of course someone is going to be discustingly skinny if they are a size 0 and 6 feet tall.

I saw them in action on a NWA flight last weekend.

YEow.

There was a plus sized stewardess, she didn't wear one.

Size 28? For fark's sake, sky waitresses are generally small in stature for practical reasons. Airplanes are small!!! A size 28 wouldn't be a good "fit" for the position any more than a 6'6" person would.

robohobo

Hey young people. There was a time when air travel was glamorous and exclusive. You ate from china, the Stewardesses were all pretty young women. Service was how the airlines competed with one another. Even in coach you had room to stretch out and relax. People dressed up to travel. Men wore suits, women nice dresses. You rarely saw children on flights and when you did they were well behaved and quiet. Poor people didn't fly, they road the bus.

/it was a golden age.

Oh, the Nineteen Hundred and Sixties, before the advent of cellphones, portable computers, PDAs and fast, wireless internet connections. Magic times, indeed.

It's not all about tech. It's about a preferable culture. Also, screw the sixties. Stain on history. The mid 40's to early 50's is where it's at. Good times.

Pfft. I would rather sit in the back of a crowded airplane than wear a suit. Good riddance, era of liesurely pretentiousness. Welcome, era of speed and convenience.

/hot stewardesses would be nice, though

People who complain about the quality of service of airlines compared to the past forget how much (relative to average salary) it cost to fly before.

Grandmas Candy Dish: Sizes schmizes. Trying to place a definitive cutoff for what is considered "fat" and what isn't is like lawmakers trying to define pornography. You just know it when you see it. Then wish you hadn't.

What kind of porn are you seeing that you wish you hadn't?

/don't answer that

ScottHimself: What kind of porn are you seeing that you wish you hadn't?

I wish I had never seen a transvestite shoving two fingers up a man's urethra.

/answered it

Size 18 is fat.

You_mean_Im_gonna_stay_this_color: zero vs 18

Sorry subby. Size 18 is fatty

Both are unattractive, for different reasons.

I wouldn't want to have either body, they both seem unhealthy.

Size 18 is for fat people. Fat people shouldn't be employed as flight attendants. It's pretty simple; inefficient use of space and fuel. Probably want to cut out the overly tall as well.

AbbeySomeone: lstywnch: brigid_fitch: Plus size starts at 14W, which is like a 16 Misses.

When I still worked in retail selling women's clothing they actually had 10Ws.

What confuses me is size 14 or whatever with P for petite. Don't they mean short and squat?
12/14 are the first sizes to sell out.

The horrible truth about women's pants is that the tag doesn't really give you any idea whether it will fit or not. Sometimes an 18 fits me. Sometimes it doesn't, depending on the brand and the cut within the brand.

Sometimes P means "asian girl petite" which means short and skinny. Sometimes P means "short fat chick". One will not fit the other. Sometimes Small means skinny chick, sometimes it means chick with a short torso, sometimes it means "build of an 8-year-old boy".

One factor is the length of the rise, the distance from the bottom of the crotch to the waist. I need a short rise, else pants all look like I'm trying to be gangsta, or they bunch up and make me look like I'm sporting a man's package.

Men's pants have 2 numbers, waist and inseam. It means something concrete -- length in inches. Women's pants...it's totally arbitrary. The number 18 or 14 or 28 doesn't mean anything concrete. Neither does P or R or W or any of the other stupid letters they put on the tags.

End result, women have to try pants on before they know if they fit, and probably will have to try a dozen before finding something they can wear. We don't spend hours shopping because we like it, but because we have no choice.

Found this whilst GIS'ing for "size 28". So I think this might help us understand what that size looks like.

/Not as heavy as I thought it would be. Surprisingly.

lstywnch: You_mean_Im_gonna_stay_this_color: zero vs 18

Sorry subby. Size 18 is fatty

And 0 needs a sammich, ICK.

She's sucking it in for the pose - look at the muscles on those shoulders - she's fine

In this thread I sense a lot of "waahh, there aren't any hot women to oggle on air planes! Waaah, I wanna be able to fly with a stiffy and get off on the idea of an attractive woman serving me because this is the only time this is going to ever happen. I deserve the right to act like unrestrained disgusting pigs." Booh frikkin' ho. Get over it, women aren't on airplanes simply for your pleasure.

/wants equality on airlines - more fatties and more men and fatty men.

TheGreatZarquon: Grouchyoldman: The point we are missing is who wants a size 28 flight attendant anyway. That would seem to me to be a real hazard during an emergency evacuation. It is bad enough to have passengers that size, but a 280+ pound man or woman trying to wedge himself or herself into the small area to open the over wing window is just plain dangerous.

I was just thinking the same thing. A flight attendant has to be able to help in the event of an evacuation, not function as a cork bottling up the emergency exit. Plus, if they're wider than the food and beverage trolley, imagine the chaos that would create whenever food and drinks are served. Crushed toes from the trolley, and the sound of men weeping as their overpriced beers are knocked to the ground in defeat before they've had a chance to party in their livers.


And safety issues aside, have you checked the price of jet fuel recently? I can't see any airline wanting to pay to constantly haul a stewardess who weighs as much as 3 normal passengers.

They should get paid less the more they weigh, as it takes more fuel to move more fat. I mean if you're going to charge a size 28 customer for two seats, you should only pay a size 28 attendant half.

cherryl taggart: Size friggin 28!! Do commercial looms make cloth that wide?

Largest I've seen in retail stores & on sewing patterns is a size 32 (5X). And size 32 clothing is really nothing more than tricked-out muu muus and other tent-like items. Here are a couple of typical outfits that go up to size 32:




/Note, model in 1st pic is probably a 22/24W. The 2nd model is probably an 18W
//Fabric is typically available in bolts of 2 sizes: 45" & 60" wide

zephyy:
i had to urbandictionary that, i'm 5'10 and about 110-115 pounds

not holocaust victim looking but all my ribs and my sternum is visible

also male

Not piling on, but 110lbs at 5'10" is grotesquely skinny on a dude.

olddinosaur: Or doesn't your sense of moral outrage extend farther than the minority du jour?

Hahahah... flight attendants are minorities now? Really?

/hope I got trolled, I really do.

BoySchwen: Subby: How is size 18 not a plus-size? I googled size 18 and those are some big girls.

A woman who wears 18 could also fit into a mans 36 jeans. If she is wide hipped, she still looks ok. If she is narrow hipped and it's all belly, well, you probably wouldn't want it unless you were drinking.

Misha80: They should get paid less the more they weigh, as it takes more fuel to move more fat. I mean if you're going to charge a size 28 customer for two seats, you should only pay a size 28 attendant half.

And fine them every time their fat brushes my elbow in the aisle seat.

aerojockey: chocolatepuke

How come I have to show a picture and no one else does?

You have to have a picture in your profile as a prerequisite for talking about your cup size, it's the rules.

(Note: picture doesn't actually have to be you, as long as it's hot.)

Picture up for a limited time only.

The_Sponge: Southwest needs to bring back go-go boots and hot pants.

Yeah, Herb Kelleher ROCKED!!!

chocolatepuke: GT_bike: chocolatepuke: That anorexic woman in the shot above might wear a size 0, but it would be baggy on her. That is unless she's 5'9 or above. I'm 5'5, wear a size 2 and I'm nowhere near that skinny. I have DD boobs! And no, my clothes are not too tight.

yer profile and comments are useless without pics

How come I have to show a picture and no one else does?

Hey, don't tar me with that brush! I've got the goods in my profile!

/ yer odds are good
// goods are odd

chocolatepuke: That anorexic woman in the shot above might wear a size 0, but it would be baggy on her. That is unless she's 5'9 or above. I'm 5'5, wear a size 2 and I'm nowhere near that skinny. I have DD boobs! And no, my clothes are not too tight.

so how tight is the paperbag you wear?

gadian: In this thread I sense a lot of "waahh, there aren't any hot women to oggle on air planes! Waaah, I wanna be able to fly with a stiffy and get off on the idea of an attractive woman serving me because this is the only time this is going to ever happen. I deserve the right to act like unrestrained disgusting pigs." Booh frikkin' ho. Get over it, women aren't on airplanes simply for your pleasure.

/wants equality on airlines - more fatties and more men and fatty men.

Weird, I don't think I've ever seen a flight attendant who was more than maybe a size 12.

Also, I thought plus size started at 14...

Thanks Political Correctness!

This is why America is failing. Stop catering to the every whim of the fatties and things will get better stat.

Just yell at them out the window if you see a fatty. They might give you the finger but you know damned well they can't run long enough to actually catch you. If you're like a buddy of mine you get a rather nasty fine for hitting one with an empty beer can while riding as a passenger. I'd not recommend following him though.

Ral: The horrible truth about women's pants is that the tag doesn't really give you any idea whether it will fit or not. Sometimes an 18 fits me. Sometimes it doesn't, depending on the brand and the cut within the brand.

True enough. Most of my pants/skirts are an 8, but I have size 6 and size 10 as well, and they all fit about the same. I have skirts in small and medium. My underwear is small and x-small. It really depends on what the designer made. My fiancee used to ask me what size I wear, and he thought I was being coy and weird, so I showed him all the random tags.

It would be so much easier if we could just buy clothes like guys do, but then certain designers wouldn't be able to feed our egos by making their smaller number sizes bigger than others.

/I'll admit it, I prefer the things I own in smaller sizes, even if they're all the same size.

gadian: In this thread I sense a lot of "waahh, there aren't any hot women to oggle on air planes! Waaah, I wanna be able to fly with a stiffy and get off on the idea of an attractive woman serving me because this is the only time this is going to ever happen. I deserve the right to act like unrestrained disgusting pigs." Booh frikkin' ho. Get over it, women aren't on airplanes simply for your pleasure.

/wants equality on airlines - more fatties and more men and fatty men.

That was weak.
-18

Ivo Shandor: Grouchyoldman: The point we are missing is who wants a size 28 flight attendant anyway.

Hey, if my plane goes down in the middle of the Atlantic I want to be surrounded by as many flotation devices as possible.


Good point. That and if you crash in the Andes a size 28 could provide plenty of food to keep the survivors alive.

ScottHimself: zephyy:
i had to urbandictionary that, i'm 5'10 and about 110-115 pounds

not holocaust victim looking but all my ribs and my sternum is visible

also male

Not piling on, but 110lbs at 5'10" is grotesquely skinny on a dude.

Seriously. I'm 5'10" and used to weigh 135 (late teens/early 20s). I'm just naturally thin, but looking back I was a twig. I'm a good 20lbs heavier now but still could stand to add a few. But, yeah ... 5'10" and 110? Not healthy.

zephyy: LesserEvil: zephyy: fat people are the scum of the earth

unless they're funny male comedians, then they get a pass, but only them.

You sound like a bag of antlers

i had to urbandictionary that, i'm 5'10 and about 110-115 pounds

not holocaust victim looking but all my ribs and my sternum is visible

also male

Dude, souknds like you need to start downing protien shakes and start a workout program - I reccoment a Bill Starr 5X% stat!

@ 5'8" I weigh 165 lbs and while strong, I'm far from big or "heavily muscled". 5'10" and 110 for a dude has got to be freaky skinny.

Something tells me that with you the arm shape is more defined by the shaft of the humerus than the muscles, likewise the shoulder probably looks like your acromion (shoulder bone)on top of the ball of the humerus, with the deltoid looking like a sheet draped over those structures. Your entire scapulae's likely stand out in bold relief as opposed to merely the spine being raised above the muscles. In muscular people in fact, the spine is a furrow between the muscles.

Either way dude - that's hella skinny. Bag o' antlers indeed.

Uh they have weight and height requirments to become a flight attendant. So I don't get it.

aerojockey: robohobo
Good riddance, era of liesurely pretentiousness class. Welcome, era of speed and convenience fatties.

ftfy

By spine, I eant spine of the shoulder blade - the actual spine also is usually in a furrow, with only the prominence of c7/t1 showinf at the base of the neck. The spine does become more visable if the subject bends foreward. However in the extremly skinny FARKers case, the spinal prominences are likely visable through almost the entire length of the spine. freaky.

brigid_fitch: //Don't ask me why sales reps needed a union--I never could figure it out.

Same reason anyone organizes a union: they got farked over big time in the past.

gadian: Get over it, women aren't on airplanes simply for your pleasure.

Perhaps, but they should be.

Dear Penthouse:

I am a Delta Platinum Medallion frequent flier. When Delta introduced the "Red Flight Attendant" uniform, I commented to the first reasonably hot, 40-something f.a. that I thought the uniform was very sexy.

That was all that it took. Three margaritas at the local Orlando restaurant and I was banging her brains out.

Who said that flying sucks now?

Delta really does "get you there!"

brigid_fitch: cherryl taggart: Size friggin 28!! Do commercial looms make cloth that wide?

Largest I've seen in retail stores & on sewing patterns is a size 32 (5X). And size 32 clothing is really nothing more than tricked-out muu muus and other tent-like items. Here are a couple of typical outfits that go up to size 32:

/Note, model in 1st pic is probably a 22/24W. The 2nd model is probably an 18W
//Fabric is typically available in bolts of 2 sizes: 45" & 60" wide

Why do you figure they still sketched skinny modes wearing those designs when they're clearly designed for bigger ladies?

Also, that first model doesn't look half bad. A well-tailored outfit goes a long way.