Oh, these guys are going to get it good in the end... the amount of coverage this has been getting locally will make sure of that. (I'm in Columbus, Licking county is just east of here) I think the Judge's comments show what will happen. The guy had the balls to plead not guilty? shoulda shut up and paid the ticket...

stellarossa: evildick: This poster says: Or better yet, maybe I should just join the local police department.

Go with Police/Sheriff's reserve. In Ohio (for example) it's no pay and maybe two nights a month duty but, you get "full benefits".

/90 days of night classes for a couple of hundred bucks.
//Paid for by the the second avoided ticket.
/// Even my overweight. sister-in-law can do it. Did I mention she's a hair dresser by profession?

Can you explain "full benefits" to an Ohio-residing, non-local, new American like me? It sounds interesting.

You get first dibs on hobo-killing tags for the season.

stellarossa: evildick: This poster says: Or better yet, maybe I should just join the local police department.

Go with Police/Sheriff's reserve. In Ohio (for example) it's no pay and maybe two nights a month duty but, you get "full benefits".

/90 days of night classes for a couple of hundred bucks.
//Paid for by the the second avoided ticket.
/// Even my overweight. sister-in-law can do it. Did I mention she's a hair dresser by profession?

Can you explain "full benefits" to an Ohio-residing, non-local, new American like me? It sounds interesting.

You can go any goddamn speed you want.

Wow this makes me miss the U.S. (sarcasm).

The German Autobahn is amazing. I routinely get passed by station wagons and tiny cars while i'm doing 140km/h (about 84mph). Even going 200 i've gotten passed by itty bitty cars. Although when there is a speed limit it's very painful 80km/h (roughly 48mph).

/seriously miss the U.S.
//but not the roads

Not that I'm totally behind these cops and think they can do no wrong and so on, but I will point out, especially in the case of lesser speeding offenses, not this ridiculous 150mph -

Courts have reason to throw out tickets for cop speeding tickets, when it is part of their job to speed and the law trusts them to do so safely as part of their job. They aren't treated the same, and shouldn't be treated the same, because they have more training than the average joe in this regard.

Actually Motorcycle Cops tend to have very narrow chicken strips.
(I'd say something complimentary about METZLER tires, but this post is too long already).
After going through training which includes the proper way to turn a motorcycle going over 12mph (That's right twelve mph)by countersteering,which is how a cop can be seated bolt upright and be banking a fuller than full dressed Electro-Glide like an F-14.
Cops also learn that fully 70% of a motorcycle's braking is a function of the front brake, even with the ABS systems of today.
Aside from increasing the officers ability to haul it down quicker, it also removes the "one sidedness" you see in many riders, they turn hard in the direction that puts the rear brake to the motorcycle's high side, not so much if the pedal is on the underside (it's a hold over from riding bicycles as kids).
Motorcycle Cops also train on skid pads, they will learn to re-gain control of the Motorcycle when suddenly they are hydroplaning with high cross winds, and are (or were when I qualified) required to slide the front wheel fully locked for a minimum of 12 feet.
A Motorcycle Cop should be able to recover from an unexpected slide caused by water,gravel,or oil on the road surface.
If a full recovery is not possible, the Motorcycle Cop knows how to part company with his machine without broken bones, and with as little gravel rash as possible, unless Lady Luck just dealt him aces and eights.
This is what I was told on my first day of Motor Cop School...
"You are invisible, automobile drivers, truck drivers, and bus drivers cannot see you.
If the afore mentioned vehicle operators COULD see you, they would attempt to kill you as all are homicidal maniacs as regards Motorcycle Cops".
The next thing we did was to push the motorcycles to a starting line of a quarter mile twisty course laid out in paint and pylon.
We were then told at the training officers signal(a starters pistol) we were to complete the course as quickly as possible.
We were not allowed to start the motorcycles, nor were we allowed to sit on them.
We raced in our training groups of 10 cadets per flight.
The first two guys across the finish line joined the first flight for engine and drivetrain safety check and instrument cluster scanning trainees.
After lunch we were given a pencil and a blank piece of paper. We were asked pertinant questions by our beloved training officer concerning things such as fluid capacities, engine displacement, horsepower, transmission and clutch type, how many feet were required to stop at differing speeds, and given several defensive driving scenarios to diagram and mark.
We never started a motorcycle for the first three days, and then only 10 of us (one flight) had earned our initial engine on step.
If someone forgot to turn on the gas at the petcock they dropped back.
If someone forgot to apply the choke they dropped back.
Though the motorcycles were equipped with electric starters, we were taught how to turn the engine with the kick starter to the compression stroke, and apply a hard kick on the downward firing stroke.
Learning to be a Motorcycle Cop was not an easy task, and I already had my Motocross, and Cross-country licenses.
I am still a motorcyclist.
I own a Suzuki Hayabusa (turbo), An older Honda Goldwing, An ex Kansas City PD Hardly Dangerous Panhead solo with the Standard Foot Clutch and tankside shift lever,A cleanly chopped&stretched out raked (stroked)knuckhead hardtail with the looooong springer front end(when turning it at low speeds the front wheel flops over like a motorgrader's) a Suzuki DR650 Dual Sport, a 450 Bultaco, a Cushman Eagle, a Cushman scooter(the all steel one with the washing machine motor in it), a 1953 Indian Chief, A Harley 45, a Harley Hummer, My first enduro a Honda 175, and my first Honda an S90.I have an H2 Kwicksaki 3cyl 2 stroke that will kill somebody someday. I inherited the Cushmans from Dad, the Chief from Grampa.I have parts and pieces enough to build a BSA Goldstar, a BSA Road Rocket, A snortin Norton 750, and a Vincent Black Shadow(prince of darkness)Gramps gave me all the British stuff. I'm an old guy, and a lucky one. I do have a problem with not wanting to let my motorcycles, boats, "good" automobiles or guns go, the kid will inherit them someday, probably sell it all for an antigravity starcruiser or something. Damnit, I forgot to mention Thunderpig, a Jerry Hawkins custom crafted just for me fourstroker based on the Honda XL engine, but endowed with a weber carb,complete with a hand cut 1/4 turn throttle, Al Baker built my front end11 inches of travel when 6 was considered rad, The guys at FMF designed and built the zero chain stretch rear, it had an 11;1 Venolia scooped piston and a custom grind on the cam by the guys at Lunati with the prettiest matching cut valves you ever saw. California custom made all the pretty racing plastics, and Koni was our first non-USA sponsor, giving me all the remote reservoir nitrogen shocks I wanted, the FMF guys layed em down and got me a good 10 inches out back. John At Irving Custom Shop (a Hodaka dealer) Laced up my D.I.D.s and crowned em with S.O.546J.Holman specials. We ran Barstow to Vegas that year, and while we didn't finish in the money, we did finish 4th in open/expert, which was good enough for me. I nearly forgot Thunderpig because She's hanging from the rafters in my bike barn.
So what do you do about cops goin 149 grinnin like possums eatin shiat?
You get the hell outta the way, that's what!
At that speed they quit being cops and become brothers of the wind.
You know what is more fun than goin 149?
Goin 249.
Ok, let the non-riders and the ones that don't appreciate how many years I have spent on this happy lil planetoid collectin memories, motorcycles, Boats(just 3), Autos(7collected)2 beaters, and aircraft (2), start with the put downs.....'cause I DGARA, I aint no wannabee, I'm a has-been, and I aint bragging so much as I'm remembering days, and daisy chains, and laughs, got to keep the loonies off the Fark.

starsrift: Department of Redundancy Department

Damnit. Need sleep. Or coffee.

Went to school and worked with a guy who had a Kawi Ninja that always rode like a bat outta hell. He had WFO painted on the back of his helmet. Which is what he did- right into the side of an old lady's car that pulled out in front of him while he was doing 100+ in a 40. A buddy of mine worked at a body shop where they took the car. It was a mid '80's 4 DR Malibu and he hit it center between the doors. The impact was so hard it actually horseshoed the body of the car.

I hate cops but after reading this,

"I don't expect the court to have any leniency. What I did was 100 percent wrong. I made a mistake," Highsmith said in court.

I'd give the guy a simple fine and let him be on his way. Seems like a decent cop to me. And yeah he broke the law by speeding, but he knew EXACTLY what he was doing, breaking the speed limit, and handling his motorcycle.

This cop seems standup enough to admit his own wrongdoing. To me that says a WHOLE LOT, especially someone who's part of the FOP.

Oblio13: I'm getting a kick out of this because I was ticketed once for doing 57 in a 55. No kidding. Rural Texas, with out-of-state plates.

Was this on I-10 between Ozona and Sonora...? Never, ever speed on that stretch, especially with out of state plates.

// I always drop down to 1 mph under the limit until clear of them.

I was pulled over for doing around 90 in a 55 in the middle of Nebraska by a trooper in bib overalls. He just told me to keep it in first gear from there on. No ticket. Lucky bastard I am.

pvd021: I hate cops but after reading this,

"I don't expect the court to have any leniency. What I did was 100 percent wrong. I made a mistake," Highsmith said in court.

I'd give the guy a simple fine and let him be on his way. Seems like a decent cop to me. And yeah he broke the law by speeding, but he knew EXACTLY what he was doing, breaking the speed limit, and handling his motorcycle.

This cop seems standup enough to admit his own wrongdoing. To me that says a WHOLE LOT, especially someone who's part of the FOP.

The cop admitted his wrong doing after being busted by the tape. When he got pulled over he said the officer needed to know they had badges. That sounds a lot to me like he wasn't planning on taking responsibility. We all know what we do when we speed, and we should all be punished the same.

"Highsmith entered a plea of not guilty before Licking County Municipal Court Judge David Branstool Wednesday."

The only way this sentence could've been improved is if you took out Highsmith and replaced it with Colonblow.

So the second guy is on disability leave becaue he slip and fell somewhere. I'm not a biker, but i thought these machines required the kind of effort that would strain such an injury...

I had a cop lie and said i was going 92 mph in my 1981 Dodge Reliant Coupe. The thing would shake BAD at 75 mph. If I actually got to 92 mph it would of probably blown apart. When I asked to see the read out, he just laughed and said he erased it. I guess having a mohawk and car full of punks did not help the cause too much. When he wanted to search my car, at first I said yes, then I said no. He got all excited and screamed "I got you! I got you!" I then informed him of my 4th Amendment right of unlawful search and seizure. You should of seen his face fall.
One of my passengers had a tape recorder and taped the whole thing. When I informed the D.A. of this I got off a with just a fine and no lose of license.

Buy guns and ammo for the coming revolution.

Thai Mai Xhu: Actually Motorcycle Cops tend to have very narrow chicken strips.
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Last time I checked, the public roads did not have cornerworkers, ambulances on standby, flag marshals, haybales and air fences, a lack of cross traffic, clean and clear visible sight lines...

And all those other things that make roadcourses the reason you do this shiat -there- instead of on a public road.

You want to go that fast? I don't care how many badges you have shoved up your ass or how much training or experience you've had... Don't do it on a public road. Get on a closed circuit racecourse where individuals like me can hand you your ass in a hat showing you what fast really is all about.

Bucky Katt: Driving like that they'll eventually crash into something and Darwin will have his revenge.

Yep. They keep riding like that and chances are they will turn into "good cops".fark the police.

alpentalrules: Buy guns and ammo for the coming revolution.

Just like the populist revolt and the "tea party" in which people were so farking lazy they sent tea bags in the mail? Now, look at Iran's demonstrations and then look back at America. You see the difference yet? They are a people who are passionate about their voice being heard. We are a bunch of fatass spoiled-rotten children who throw a brief and hilarious temper tantrum when we don't get our way.

My brother sold a Honda 550 4 to a Nassau county cop. A couple months later they found him and the bike all smashed up on a road in the Catskills.

Yep he was dead.

Angrarulz: alpentalrules: Buy guns and ammo for the coming revolution.

Just like the populist revolt and the "tea party" in which people were so farking lazy they sent tea bags in the mail? Now, look at Iran's demonstrations and then look back at America. You see the difference yet? They are a people who are passionate about their voice being heard. We are a bunch of fatass spoiled-rotten children who throw a brief and hilarious temper tantrum when we don't get our way.

That was a protest that was made up mostly of cons. The cons have a long track record of total incompetence so it's not surprising their protests would be failures.

Contrast that with what many who were in the Nixon admin had to say about the late 1960's protest. They have admitted they were completely freaked out by those left wing protests and they also admitted that plans to escalate the Vietnam war were canceled because they were so scared.

Check out a film called "Two Days In October" and you'll see how freaked out the Nixon admin was.

www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/twodays/

Doctor Jan Itor: 149? They should get their licenses revoked or speeding is no longer an enforceable law because of precedent. IANAL.

That's what one of the lawyers mentioned in the story was saying. If these two clowns don't get nailed for reckless driving, he's going to have a hell of a precedent for his own clients.

came for chips leaving happy

got ludicrous speed as a bonus.


one of the perks of the fraternal order i suppose

lajimi: Lee: "What's your name? Bryan. You? Highsmith. Did you say Highsmith? Yeah. I think you were at the academy when I was there. Did I train you?

Cover-up machine activated.

As for the joking and lack of questions about reckless driving and racing, OSP said no two traffic stops are alike and the speeding charge was explained.

Cover-up machine in gear.

An OSP spokesperson said Lee's microphone should have remained on during the entire traffic stop and the issue will be addressed later.

If this were true why does it even HAVE an off button?
Cover-up machine now at full speed.


They have on/of buttons because they are battery operated. If the officer is on break or in the station, etc. he/she would turn it to "off" to save battery life and make sure that when returning to shift, that there was sufficient battery power to run it.

You're dead on, though. I'd expect that the cop/trooper that pulled these two asshats over will see plenty of disciplinary action for this. Admin might not nail him for the discretionary decision (although bad decision) to let two cops go after triple the speed limit, but they will likely jam it up his ass for turning off his mic and not fully documenting the stop. (And rightly so, if he's willing to "hide" that behavior, what else is he hiding?)

I'd be interested in knowing how this came to the light of the media/public. I'd bet heavy that these two dickheads weren't just opening it up on a straightaway, but were weaving in and out like Moto-GP racers, blew past dozens of motorists, scaring them shiatless. Ten miles later, the same cars/minivans/trucks see them pulled over and say "good, the cops got the pricks!" and then a minute later they get passed by the same two douchebags AGAIN. Putting one and one together, the motorists realize something ain't right and call the local HQ and say "what the hell is up with this? We got passed by two hooligans running at light speed, they got pulled over, and two minutes later they are riding like bats out of hell again. Why weren't they arrested???"

Or even better, someone called their local news crew and asked the same thing.

CTZanderman: pvd021: I hate cops but after reading this,

"I don't expect the court to have any leniency. What I did was 100 percent wrong. I made a mistake," Highsmith said in court.

I'd give the guy a simple fine and let him be on his way. Seems like a decent cop to me. And yeah he broke the law by speeding, but he knew EXACTLY what he was doing, breaking the speed limit, and handling his motorcycle.

This cop seems standup enough to admit his own wrongdoing. To me that says a WHOLE LOT, especially someone who's part of the FOP.

The cop admitted his wrong doing after being busted by the tape. When he got pulled over he said the officer needed to know they had badges. That sounds a lot to me like he wasn't planning on taking responsibility. We all know what we do when we speed, and we should all be punished the same.


It's common practice to announce that you're a (off duty) police officer if you're stopped, especially if you happen to be carrying a weapon. Here's why--every traffic stop involves the unknown and potential for injury or death to the officer making the stop. If the "violator" identifies him/herself as a police officer, the fear factor attached to the stop reduces immensely.

Before the "yeah, tell 'em you're a cop so you can get out of the ticket" responses, if this guy really wanted to take responsibility for his actions, he would have stepped up and done it when he was stopped, not after it was in the news.

If I were his supervisor, I'd be a lot more willing to say "ok, you made a mistake, you're owning up to it, now accept the appropriate sanction, and you can move on from here" than the guy who is pleading "not guilty" and likely defrauding the disability system--no question he should be fired.

Settle down, it's OK everyone. They were wearing their helmets...

If they are disciplined, it's only because they made the news.

The trooper who let them go should get the same treatment the speeding cops are getting.

Who issued the tickets 8 days later?

I applaud the judge who says he may still suspend their licenses for up to 3 yrs.

This is not far from where my sister lives.

twfeline: If they are disciplined, it's only because they made the news.


You're right that no one would likely have found about this if it hadn't made the news (in-car video is reviewed randomly in many agencies, so there was a very remote chance this would ever have been discovered otherwise).

I know I won't be able to convince you of this, but the Ohio State Highway Patrol has a national reputation for the firm way they deal with misconduct and I have no doubt that both the off-duty trooper and the one pulling them over will get quite a spanking.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Highsmith gets yanked from the Motorcycle unit (a big deal, actually, Motors are an elite assignment), perhaps even gets his drivers license pulled for a period of time which would in effect render him "unable to perform the duties of his job" (can't drive, can't be a trooper) and therefore jeopardize his employment even if they don't fire him. What really screwed him was this: "If you guys don't mind, just tell them we're a bunch of cops. Don't tell them I'm a trooper 'cause that will get back."

Lee (the trooper who stopped them) is in for some unpaid time on the beach, remedial training, or worse.

As for "Injured Leave Thomas," no clue what will happen to him. I hope they (the city that employs him) pursue criminal charges for insurance fraud and grand theft.

An SF cop bit it street racing this week, and everyone's talking about how he's such a hero.

They're above state and local laws, but not apparently the laws of physics.

I doubt its possible, but maybe one day cops will realize the mistrust and animosity this type of thing builds in the public, really just works against them in the long run.

When you are in a public service job, image is everything, and in the case of police, failure to maintain this image reduces their ability to perform their job, and can even lead to fatalities.

This sort of thing is rampant in my town and accordingly, I probably wouldnt even call an ambulance if I saw a police officer go down in the line of duty, as I would surmise he was probably up to no good anyway.

I got a ticket for going 62 in a 55, and the cherry on top was the big, bad policeman talking to me like I was an 8 year old who didn't finish his vegetables.

Droshki: I doubt its possible, but maybe one day cops will realize the mistrust and animosity this type of thing builds in the public, really just works against them in the long run.

When you are in a public service job, image is everything, and in the case of police, failure to maintain this image reduces their ability to perform their job, and can even lead to fatalities.

This sort of thing is rampant in my town and accordingly, I probably wouldnt even call an ambulance if I saw a police officer go down in the line of duty, as I would surmise he was probably up to no good anyway.

Cops who engage in this kind of behavior probably don't care about the effect it has on the perception cops in general. They likely do care about their own image and are attempting to change that image through actions like these. After all, if they're hiding behind a badge and looking for special treatment, then they're simply cowards who would never attempt anything like this if not for the protection of the "shield". The audience they are trying to reach with these kinds of idiotic actions will simply say "Wow, 147mph, I never thought he was capable of that, good for him!" and will then crush beer cans on their foreheads.

moike:Get on a closed circuit racecourse where individuals like me can hand you your ass in a hat showing you what fast really is all about.

Man if I had a dollar for every time I heard that, I'd have enough to buy Thai Mai Xhu's collection.

Why is the video so crappy? It appears someone tried to trash the tape. You ever played a mangled videotape and see what it looks like? Yeah, it looks just like that dash-cam video.

Like with murders, drug deals, assaults, for every case we see there are many times that many that go unnoticed. This is a grave miscarriage of justice. There is no space for favoritism in the law, not even for those that enforce it.

No surprise. My brother used to ride with a friend who was a cop. When they were pulled over for going 115+ on the Long Island Expressway and the cop was walking to them, his friend pulled out his badge, flipped it over his shoulder so the cop could see it, and guess what?

As soon as the officer saw it, he said "be careful, guys." Turned around and walked right back to the squad car.

It must be a nice feeling to be above the law like that.

Begoggle: Mindless cop hate thread of the day.
Nothing new here.

Yes, most cops are mindless. I was in the bar last night while a regular was chatting up my neighbor after she bought me a pint. Turns out he's a former MP and cop. He doesn't like cops nowadays.

So where's CruiserTwelve? I figured he'd be making excuses by this time.

Fark Ohio. Fark the OSP. Fark cops in general. I got a street racing ticket in college for a couple of quick runs between lights from 0-45mph... the speed limit was 40. It was 2am in my college town, and they had already rolled the goddamn sidewalks up. The only people on the street were me, my roommate in the other car, and apparently the cop on foot who saw us and radioed for the cruisers to come and pick us up. 6 points on my license, SR22 insurance filing for 3 years, suspended license for a month, and a 30 day jail sentence suspended for 2 years. This is why people hate cops.

hagar129: They had to go poop....been there done that.

funny story: my friend's dad was driving home from work and really had to do his business. Apparently there weren't any fast food joints or anything around, so he pulled up to an elementary school. The security cameras caught him taking a dump next to a couple bushes, along with his company truck. When confronted by his boss, he just asked "Did they get my good side?"

"They're above state and local laws, but not apparently the laws of physics."

No one is. Inertia can be a biatch.

moike: Thai Mai Xhu: Actually Motorcycle Cops tend to have very narrow chicken strips.
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Last time I checked, the public roads did not have cornerworkers, ambulances on standby, flag marshals, haybales and air fences, a lack of cross traffic, clean and clear visible sight lines...

And all those other things that make roadcourses the reason you do this shiat -there- instead of on a public road.

You want to go that fast? I don't care how many badges you have shoved up your ass or how much training or experience you've had... Don't do it on a public road. Get on a closed circuit racecourse where individuals like me can hand you your ass in a hat showing you what fast really is all about.

MOIKE TL:RAA

TL;DR's ass Moike,You may have an ATD problem but you read every word.
I was a cop for two years, hated it.
I raced MotoX against the fast euro guys like Heikie Mikola, and later against Bob Hanna and Chuck Sun.
I left MotoX when stadium racing was new, and Rex Statton was still racing minibikes. I was 63rd in national rankings, Johnny Ransom was 62nd the year we both left MotoX.
Barstow to Vegas is a sanctioned race, but it's a cross country, so you can forget about hay bales, corner workers, flag marshalls, or any of most of the niceties GP offers, there are people here and there with radios, and if you hit a check way late they'll send somebody out to look for you, most race teams have a chase crew, but you really don't want to see them till you've made you'r run.
The helicopters are staying with the front runners, and if you know Barstow to Vegas or the Baja 500 and the Baja 1000, or perhaps the Paris to Dakar(never got to run that one), you know that the sanctioning bodies require riders to hold licenses plus usually qualify for whichever particular run you intend to make.
Instead of corner workers trying to make a race safer you have people digging ditches across the "road" to cause high speed crashes.
A good rule of thumb is if there are a lot of people around a blind spot, either slow way down or go behind them, because they are there to see crashes even if they have to make them happen.
Open expert cycles and the Pro rally cars and trucks are all pretty quick 100+,but motorcycles have a tough time maintaining speeds much over 80 for very long across the desert(physical exhaustion sets in),so there are actually about six different races at B2V and Baja. I can't take the abuse anymore.
My H2 was a FormulaGP bike,we simply replaced the top end with H1 legal jugs and pistons and ran it in a destroked configuration for GP with the carb jetting changing from course to course.
I've dragged my knees around the same corners Freddy Spencer did, and on the same lap, I achieved no national or international standing(top 75) in this form of racing.
I had a few DNFs and never finished in the top 5, but I'm still faster than most humans.
I could still make some cicuits but I'm over 50 now,so that physical is going to black flag me.
Of course if you are anywhere near my age we could probably both qualify for an oldtimer's event.
I have a motorcycle that would qualify for a supermotard event, and I can pass that physical, I can get a privateer's license.
I can raise a crew.
I live within 500 miles of some very well known circuits.
I won't be going to Japan to teach this year (my Mother is advanced in age and in failing health), so if you think you have what it takes to "hand me my ass"(you'r words), just tell me how to contact you because I do not intend to campaign an entire season, I'll take you in one event, presuming you are able to qualify (physical,skills,equipment,support).
I seriously doubt you have ever sat astride a GP or SuperGP bike because of you'r silly statement about clean and clear visual sight lines.
You are being redundant, (perhaps you meant clear lines of sight).
I would like to inform you that I have yet to see a GP, supermoto, a SuperGP, or a Supermotard course meeting you'r "specs", you see there are curves, there are chicanes, there are rises and dips in the course,there are sometimes riderless motorcycles, sometimes riders are sliding along hoping nobody hits them, that is hazard enough, but believe this, sometimes you DO meet cross traffic, it's always a surprise, perhaps in your imagination or in some video game you play such courses exist or would be desirable, but in reality the world of steel kneepads and "hotshoes" are not even wished to be as you describe.
The race is a test of the Team's efforts at fielding a bike that can win, and a rider who can win. The privateer with little sponsorship bucks almost impossible odds, but sometimes the Team's effort finds success, when the bike holds together and runs well enough to win but doesn't the rider ALWAYS blames himself, to say, traffic, bad starting position, dirty racing by competition ect are shelters for riders who were never prepared to give what winning takes.
When you are willing to give it you'r all, you have nobody to blame but yourself.
And to expound just a bit further, I've seen corner workers and course marshalls bisected, and even trisected by oncoming traffic when they rushed to put the yellow flag at the scene of a bad fall.
In high speed racing one develops a tunnel vision, or did you not know that?
No clear field of view, just a view of the next obstacle to winning.
BTW, a few months ago a very talented local rider was very badly injured here on his Hayabusa.
He was centerpunched by a deer.
In town.
He was going maybe 30mph.
My Ex-Teammate Jacky Torti, has been in a coma for more than 20 years due to a crash.
On a 500CC Yamaha street bike.
He was going under 45 when a drunk clipped the rear of his motorcycle.
Jacky's helmet shattered (DOT APPROVED).
Jacky's head impacted a curb, sustaining irreversable brain damage.
Jacky's body was in superb condition, it probably won't die for years.
But Jacky isn't there anymore.
If you'd bothered to read my previous post you'd have noted that my bike barn has some very fast, very competative bikes, which were used in competition.
My Hayabusa is not only the fastest production motorcycle in the world, it has been tweaked and peaked.
Just because one owns the fastest motorcycle doesn't mean that one must use it in an irresponsible manner.
My Grandfather's Vincent was the fastest motorcycle in the world when he rode it, responsibly.
Perhaps it is those police officers you'd like to hand their asses.
If so I certainly understand.
If I misunderstood you please forgive me.
Sincere Regards
Thai

Timmy the Tumor: ... I'd bet heavy that these two dickheads weren't just opening it up on a straightaway, but were weaving in and out like Moto-GP racers, blew past dozens of motorists, scaring them shiatless...


And you'd lose... Licking county is all straightaways coming into Columbus.

/all Ohio cops suck, and should DIAF.

moike: Thai Mai Xhu: Actually Motorcycle Cops tend to have very narrow chicken strips.
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Last time I checked, the public roads did not have cornerworkers, ambulances on standby, flag marshals, haybales and air fences, a lack of cross traffic, clean and clear visible sight lines...

And all those other things that make roadcourses the reason you do this shiat -there- instead of on a public road.

You want to go that fast? I don't care how many badges you have shoved up your ass or how much training or experience you've had... Don't do it on a public road. Get on a closed circuit racecourse where individuals like me can hand you your ass in a hat showing you what fast really is all about.

Sweet.

See this is the big difference. They only stopped BECAUSE they were cops. A civilian rider that passes a stopped trooper at 140+ doesn't stop and exits the highway as efficiently as possible and is never seen again.

/not that I would know anything about that

I remember driving down I-70 and getting nailed for speeding by the OSP outside of "lovely" Zanesville. Not shocked they'd let a cop on "disability leave" go when he's cruising at 149 mph.

heyheyjerky: When he wanted to search my car, at first I said yes, then I said no. He got all excited and screamed "I got you! I got you!" I then informed him of my 4th Amendment right of unlawful search and seizure. You should of seen his face fall.
One of my passengers had a tape recorder and taped the whole thing. When I informed the D.A. of this I got off a with just a fine and no lose of license.
Actually, precedent says that after initially consenting to a search, it is NOT a violation of 4th Amendment to continue to search and collect evidence after you verbally RESCIND permission. You cannot effectively rescind permission once you've given it.

unicron702: I have a buddy that did 70 through a school zone under construction. They doubled his speed for the school zone, then doubled it again for the construction. So 70mph quadrupled. He has at his house a framed ticket for doing 280mph in a 6 cylinder Mustang.

Awesome conversation piece.

I had no idea that this was done. I know they like to double FINES, but doubling the SPEED is nonsense. Speed is speed, not seriousness, so writing down a speed that was not there is fraudulent. In fact, it's perjury since he's a law officer and it's a legal document for the court.

Ed Kemper's Mustache: "Highsmith entered a plea of not guilty before Licking County Municipal Court Judge David Branstool Wednesday"

Tough court if you have to lick the judge, but where did he lick him. Friggin Homos

"Highsmith entered a plea of not guilty before licking County Municipal Court Judge David Bran's tool Wednesday."

/fixed

obtanium666: Timmy the Tumor: ... I'd bet heavy that these two dickheads weren't just opening it up on a straightaway, but were weaving in and out like Moto-GP racers, blew past dozens of motorists, scaring them shiatless...


And you'd lose... Licking county is all straightaways coming into Columbus.

/all Ohio cops suck, and should DIAF.


Why would I "lose?"

What I'm betting is that they were weaving in and out of traffic, going from lane to lane. I hedge that bet based on the article, which highlights that there was plenty of traffic on that stretch of highway (which you can see when you look at the video). In other words, they weren't just opening up the throttle and running 150 on a straightaway (I never said they were dragging knees in curves) with no other traffic present, they couldn't have been...at some point, they would have HAD to have been going lane to lane to lane at a rate of speed much higher than posted limits.

Thai Mai Xhu:

I had a few DNFs and never finished in the top 5, but I'm still faster than most humans.


You lost me right there.

For 2008 I finished 2nd overall in the Nation in Superside America FIM. 3rd in the 'West Coast Challenge' in the SRA-West. In a 200 horsepower 200 mile per hour Formula 1 rig. Right now half way through the season I'm tied for third overall and not far behind the two teams above me.

Some of us Bubba, we know how to go fast... and do it well. We don't just make excuses on the internet about why we can't.





Keep the speed on the track where it belongs. The real fast guys know that the street is just a means to get place to place.

Anybody who thinks different is just a poser who's watched Torque or Fast & Furious too many times.