W.

T.

F?

Mr. Kettle, there is a Mr. Pot on line one.
Also, the Iranian government is protesting against Germany for the deaths of some Muslims in a court. The government over there has no shame.

Now THAT'S chutzpah.

TheGreatZarquon: Now THAT'S chutzpah.

I always wondered what chutzpah meant.

hahahahaha Iran is trolling Italy!

Bucky Katt: hahahahaha Iran is trolling Italy!

Seriously, this HAS to be Ahmadinejad trolling for a good laugh, there's no way they could have said this with a straight face.

now that's funny

Even better:

Iran voices 'concern' over China unrest

That's Iranic.

/groan at will.

Mentat: Even better:

Iran voices 'concern' over China unrest

Ok, now I'm SURE they're trolling. Either that, or they're desperately trying to look like the good guys by pointing out every single incidence of someone doing the same thing he did, so that everyone forgets the weeks of unending bloodshed he dealt out to his own citizens.

That's quite hypocritical, but I really don't see what this has to do with Michael Jackson.

Eh, no different from us chastising China or North Korea for human rights abuses like torture or holding people years without trial.

For real?

That's what you're gonna do?

Reaaaaaly?

Unfarkingbelieveable.

Heh. I'm getting so old. I first read that as....

...oh, shiat.

My Panini is on the fence/grill on this one?

uberchops: That's Iranic.

/groan at will.

gg

TheGreatZarquon: Mentat: Even better:

Iran voices 'concern' over China unrest

Ok, now I'm SURE they're trolling. Either that, or they're desperately trying to look like the good guys by pointing out every single incidence of someone doing the same thing he did, so that everyone forgets the weeks of unending bloodshed he dealt out to his own citizens.

Pretty much this. They've been trying to suppress any evidence of their own crackdown, and trying to make themselves seem less guilty by calling out other countries for their own problems.

Wow, with projection like that they could use the moon for a drive-in movie theater screen

NobleHam: TheGreatZarquon: Mentat: Even better:

Iran voices 'concern' over China unrest

Ok, now I'm SURE they're trolling. Either that, or they're desperately trying to look like the good guys by pointing out every single incidence of someone doing the same thing he did, so that everyone forgets the weeks of unending bloodshed he dealt out to his own citizens.

Pretty much this. They've been trying to suppress any evidence of their own crackdown, and trying to make themselves seem less guilty by calling out other countries for their own problems.

You know who else called out other countries for their own problems?

Mentat: Even better:

Iran voices 'concern' over China unrest

If they haven't yet, the Chinese government must sure be having second thoughts now about congratulating Ahmedinejad on his electoral victory.

Does the old Iraqi minister of information write his material?

Fano: NobleHam: TheGreatZarquon: Mentat: Even better:

You know who else called out other countries for their own problems?

W?

Fano: NobleHam:

Pretty much this. They've been trying to suppress any evidence of their own crackdown, and trying to make themselves seem less guilty by calling out other countries for their own problems.

You know who else called out other countries for their own problems?

The United States?

fendrluvr: That's quite hypocritical, but I really don't see what this has to do with Michael Jackson.

Thanks for the lulz.

Silly Iran. We'll humor you this time because you're new at this, but what you REALLY want here is a strongly worded letter. I'd suggest VERY strongly worded, seeing how deeply you care about this issue.

I think I just blew half my brain cells contemplating this one.

A combination of "But Clinton, Middle Eastern Redux" and the delusional belief in Iran that they have their populace as ignorant and propaganda fed as the North Koreans.

Iran does not care about Muslim people.

Are the protesters muslims? Then the Islamic Theocracy would gladly protest violence against them, it falls with the islamic agenda. The world has a right to kill as many anti-theocracy pro-democracy pro-freedom people as it wants according to Iran. Now however if we defend ourselves against the pro-theocracy islamic movement, then we are of course condemned and vile devils. But any pro-democracy movement, even if done by muslims, must be stamped out as it cracks the fragile totalitarian jar that contains the idea that "God is with us and wants islam to dominate the world!"

whatever, it's bullshiat on both fronts

eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

Is Iran free yet?

That was sooooo last month. Michael Jackson was the more pressing issue.

Ahmadinejad gets whacked by the mob in the 3..2..1...

/Either that or they use a Gunslinger Girl.

eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

Is Iran free yet?

Is awesome unawesome?

eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

Is Iran free yet?

No, apparently twitter is not a proper way to fight a revolutionary war. It seems everyone learned that guns are still the best way to fight an oppressive government. But it sure was fun pretending!

m2313: Ahmadinejad gets whacked by the mob in the ON 3..2..1...1...2...a 1,2,3,4

/Either that or they use a Gunslinger Girl.

FTFY. Obviously you're not a musician.

TheGreatZarquon: Now THAT'S chutzpah.

That's pointing out hypocrisy.

/Fight chutzpah WITH chutzpah!

Where is "bomb Iran" Fearless Leader? King of trolls?

Pot of flaming boiling oil, kettle.
Kettle, this is Pot of flaming boiling oil.


The Basij have burned civilian bodies in the street to start more fights.

uberchops: That's Iranic.

/groan at will.

AGGGH! The pun...it burns!

/golf clap for subby, and a +1 for proper use of the "Ironic" tag

Reruns are one thing, but Persian / Roman smackdowns are sooooo BC (err BCE for you correct types).

If only governments had some kind of command hierarchy in place who could command the police to stop beating the shiat out of people.

Sorry I'm late has anyone mentioned anything about a pot or a kettle?

Hahaha very funny, Iran! For a moment there, I thought you were serious!

tinfoil-hat maggie: Sorry I'm late has anyone mentioned anything about a pot or a kettle?

What does one have to do with the other?

TheGreatZarquon: Mentat: Even better:

Iran voices 'concern' over China unrest

Ok, now I'm SURE they're trolling. Either that, or they're desperately trying to look like the good guys by pointing out every single incidence of someone doing the same thing he did, so that everyone forgets the weeks of unending bloodshed he dealt out to his own citizens.

When it comes to the brutalization of those under a government's control, they are pretty mild.

Our "ally in the Middle East" is much worse.

leonel: Hahaha very funny, Iran! For a moment there, I thought you were serious!

Iran=libbynomore2

tinfoil-hat maggie: Sorry I'm late has anyone mentioned anything about a pot or a kettle?

Sure has:

greentea1985: Mr. Kettle, there is a Mr. Pot on line one.
Also, the Iranian government is protesting against Germany for the deaths of some Muslims in a court. The government over there has no shame.

uberchops: That's Iranic.

/groan at will.

I LOL'd

Okay, okay, okay...

On one hand, if we "liberate" the Iranians, we get all that oil.

On the other hand, if we "liberate" Italy, there's all of that priceless art and treasures...

Hmm. Oil or treasure. Oil or treasure...

Lenny_da_Hog: Okay, okay, okay...

On one hand, if we "liberate" the Iranians, we get all that oil.

On the other hand, if we "liberate" Italy, there's all of that priceless art and treasures...

Hmm. Oil or treasure. Oil or treasure...

Crusade, baby!

uberchops: That's Iranic.

/groan at will.



fendrluvr: That's quite hypocritical, but I really don't see what this has to do with Michael Jackson.

*snort*

You guys can split the cost of the new keyboard you owe me.

Do you want to get high?

eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

1. Tatsuma achieved his trolling victory and turned back into a werewolf.

2. People are much more shallow than they appear. NO DIVING!

3. St. Michael the Devil died.

4. Repeat #2.

Farker T: eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

1. Tatsuma achieved his trolling victory and turned back into a werewolf.

2. People are much more shallow than they appear. NO DIVING!

3. St. Michael the Devil died.

4. Repeat #2.

Is it safe for me to criticize Tatsuma again?

Sabyen91: Farker T: eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

1. Tatsuma achieved his trolling victory and turned back into a werewolf.

2. People are much more shallow than they appear. NO DIVING!

3. St. Michael the Devil died.

4. Repeat #2.

Is it safe for me to criticize Tatsuma again?

If you don't mind being called names.

GIS result for "Iran trolls Italy"...

Vanetia: uberchops: That's Iranic.

/groan at will.



fendrluvr: That's quite hypocritical, but I really don't see what this has to do with Michael Jackson.

*snort*

You guys can split the cost of the new keyboard you owe me.

It was the fault of the Infidels.

wait wut??

supremesaltine: uberchops: That's Iranic.

/groan at will.

gg


AGGGH! The pun...it burns!

/golf clap for subby, and a +1 for proper use of the "Ironic" tag

Selfabortion:

I LOL'd

Vanetia:


fendrluvr: That's quite hypocritical, but I really don't see what this has to do with Michael Jackson.

*snort*

You guys can split the cost of the new keyboard you owe me.



Thank you. That's why they pay me the big bucks.

Farker T: Sabyen91: Farker T: eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

1. Tatsuma achieved his trolling victory and turned back into a werewolf.

2. People are much more shallow than they appear. NO DIVING!

3. St. Michael the Devil died.

4. Repeat #2.

Is it safe for me to criticize Tatsuma again?

If you don't mind being called names.

Me, I was blasted for criticizing him during his tweet revolution.

the iran debacle is full of shiat. i support current government. Musavi is a powerhungry politician bent, not on democracy, but self aggrandizement. His pro 'westernized' policies would undermine Iranian culture and open up the economy to EuroAmerican exploitation.

/proud american

TheGreatZarquon: Seriously, this HAS to be Ahmadinejad trolling for a good laugh, there's no way they could have said this with a straight face.

I think he's trying to pull a "both sides are just as bad!" durr, hurrr.

sound familiar?

mandingueiro: the iran debacle is full of shiat. i support current government. Musavi is a powerhungry politician bent, not on democracy, but self aggrandizement. His pro 'westernized' policies would undermine Iranian culture and open up the economy to EuroAmerican exploitation.

/proud american

0/10

mandingueiro: the iran debacle is full of shiat. i support current government. Musavi is a powerhungry politician bent, not on democracy, but self aggrandizement. His pro 'westernized' policies would undermine Iranian culture and open up the economy to EuroAmerican exploitation.

/proud american

Yeah, but WWMJD?

mandingueiro: /proud american

That depends on how many lapel pins you are wearing?

Sabyen91: mandingueiro: the iran debacle is full of shiat. i support current government. Musavi is a powerhungry politician bent, not on democracy, but self aggrandizement. His pro 'westernized' policies would undermine Iranian culture and open up the economy to EuroAmerican exploitation.

/proud american

0/10

where was i wrong?

mandingueiro: the iran debacle is full of shiat. i support current government. Musavi is a powerhungry politician bent, not on democracy, but self aggrandizement. His pro 'westernized' policies would undermine Iranian culture and open up the economy to EuroAmerican exploitation.

/proud american

You know who else was a proud American? HITLER!

mandingueiro: Sabyen91: mandingueiro: the iran debacle is full of shiat. i support current government. Musavi is a powerhungry politician bent, not on democracy, but self aggrandizement. His pro 'westernized' policies would undermine Iranian culture and open up the economy to EuroAmerican exploitation.

/proud american

0/10

where was i wrong?

Neither side would go with that argument. It would take a true extremist (left or right, it doesn't matter) to go ahead and give that one a shot.

CynicalLA: mandingueiro: /proud american

That depends on how many lapel pins you are wearing?

Lapel pins are for commies and Mary Kay saleswomen. Ribbon stickers on your bumper proves your patriotism. Duh.

Is it opposite day?

Lumi: Eh, no different from us chastising China or North Korea for human rights abuses like torture or holding people years without trial.

water boarding was not torture to the bush administration, it didnt cause permanent or even temporary physical damage. it was purely emotional and mental stress. if you accept that physical harm only is torture then waterboarding is not torture. this is a rational and justifiable stance.


holding people for years without trial... something obama is doing. why? because if you took a minute to look at WHO was being detained you would understand. as one example, a group of people left western china, leaving behind their wives and children. the left for jobs or whatever trying to get to somewhere... they got stuck in afghanistan without money to go further, and were doing odd jobs trying to get it together. the afghan natives knew they were outsiders and turned them in to the US claiming they were terrorists. the afghan natives got the bounty reward and the US picked up some terrorists and send them to Guantanamo bay. however the US figured out they were pawns after a while and then decided to send them back. china heard about it and declared them rebels for leaving their home region or whatever else. so they cant go back to china. other nations wont take them cause it will piss off china.... albania took a few, and then suddenly refused to take any more... nobody in the US wants suspected terrorists.... so... where do they go? no nation will accept them. you see the problem? they arent exactly being detained so much as they'd be arrested/killed if they were set free where china could get their hands on them.


but yes, lets vote obama for change.... he'll close guantanamo, move the people elsewhere and business as usual.

uberchops: That's Iranic.

/groan at will.

DIE DIE DIE INFIDEL!!!!!

Seriously, I'm sure the Old Testament, the Koran, the Constitution and the Necronomicon all have some kind of violent punishment for that kind of nonsense.

uberchops: groan at will

Which one is Will?

UnspokenVoice: uberchops: groan at will

Which one is Will?

The chubby one in the back...

Genta: Lumi: Eh, no different from us chastising China or North Korea for human rights abuses like torture or holding people years without trial.

water boarding was not torture to the bush administration, it didnt cause permanent or even temporary physical damage. it was purely emotional and mental stress. if you accept that physical harm only is torture then waterboarding is not torture. this is a rational and justifiable stance.


holding people for years without trial... something obama is doing. why? because if you took a minute to look at WHO was being detained you would understand. as one example, a group of people left western china, leaving behind their wives and children. the left for jobs or whatever trying to get to somewhere... they got stuck in afghanistan without money to go further, and were doing odd jobs trying to get it together. the afghan natives knew they were outsiders and turned them in to the US claiming they were terrorists. the afghan natives got the bounty reward and the US picked up some terrorists and send them to Guantanamo bay. however the US figured out they were pawns after a while and then decided to send them back. china heard about it and declared them rebels for leaving their home region or whatever else. so they cant go back to china. other nations wont take them cause it will piss off china.... albania took a few, and then suddenly refused to take any more... nobody in the US wants suspected terrorists.... so... where do they go? no nation will accept them. you see the problem? they arent exactly being detained so much as they'd be arrested/killed if they were set free where china could get their hands on them.


but yes, lets vote obama for change.... he'll close guantanamo, move the people elsewhere and business as usual.

Well, shiat, we should have voted for McCain.

Well, that's the pot calling the slightly tarnished kettle black.

Really? REALLY?!?

Not available for comment.

Ha, politicians (from any country), they're a whole different breed, no lie.

Gyrfalcon: uberchops: That's Iranic.

/groan at will.

DIE DIE DIE INFIDEL!!!!!

Seriously, I'm sure the Old Testament, the Koran, the Constitution and the Necronomicon all have some kind of violent punishment for that kind of nonsense.

Oh, I have no doubt of that. Also, you forgot the bhagavad gita, and the Hammurabi code. The Tao Te Ching actually has my soul being fed to a pack of dingos.

Genta: Lumi: Eh, no different from us chastising China or North Korea for human rights abuses like torture or holding people years without trial.

water boarding was not torture to the bush administration, it didnt cause permanent or even temporary physical damage. it was purely emotional and mental stress. if you accept that physical harm only is torture then waterboarding is not torture. this is a rational and justifiable stance.


holding people for years without trial... something obama is doing. why? because if you took a minute to look at WHO was being detained you would understand. as one example, a group of people left western china, leaving behind their wives and children. the left for jobs or whatever trying to get to somewhere... they got stuck in afghanistan without money to go further, and were doing odd jobs trying to get it together. the afghan natives knew they were outsiders and turned them in to the US claiming they were terrorists. the afghan natives got the bounty reward and the US picked up some terrorists and send them to Guantanamo bay. however the US figured out they were pawns after a while and then decided to send them back. china heard about it and declared them rebels for leaving their home region or whatever else. so they cant go back to china. other nations wont take them cause it will piss off china.... albania took a few, and then suddenly refused to take any more... nobody in the US wants suspected terrorists.... so... where do they go? no nation will accept them. you see the problem? they arent exactly being detained so much as they'd be arrested/killed if they were set free where china could get their hands on them.


but yes, lets vote obama for change.... he'll close guantanamo, move the people elsewhere and business as usual.

e. e. cummings called, he wants his style back.

uberchops: Gyrfalcon: uberchops: That's Iranic.

/groan at will.

DIE DIE DIE INFIDEL!!!!!

Seriously, I'm sure the Old Testament, the Koran, the Constitution and the Necronomicon all have some kind of violent punishment for that kind of nonsense.

Oh, I have no doubt of that. Also, you forgot the bhagavad gita, and the Hammurabi code. The Tao Te Ching actually has my soul being fed to a pack of dingos.

Hmm, not sure about the Hammurabi code. That didn't have much to do with the supernatural.

uberchops: The Tao Te Ching actually has my soul being fed to a pack of dingos.

Dingo ate my soul?

/got nothing

uberchops: Gyrfalcon: uberchops: That's Iranic.

/groan at will.

DIE DIE DIE INFIDEL!!!!!

Seriously, I'm sure the Old Testament, the Koran, the Constitution and the Necronomicon all have some kind of violent punishment for that kind of nonsense.

Oh, I have no doubt of that. Also, you forgot the bhagavad gita, and the Hammurabi code. The Tao Te Ching actually has my soul being fed to a pack of dingos.

Then you don't even want to hear where the Popol Vuh sends people like you.

eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

Is Iran free yet?

No, the war is over, Mister Lebowski- THE BUMS LOST!!

Sabyen91: uberchops: Gyrfalcon: uberchops: That's Iranic.

/groan at will.

DIE DIE DIE INFIDEL!!!!!

Seriously, I'm sure the Old Testament, the Koran, the Constitution and the Necronomicon all have some kind of violent punishment for that kind of nonsense.

Oh, I have no doubt of that. Also, you forgot the bhagavad gita, and the Hammurabi code. The Tao Te Ching actually has my soul being fed to a pack of dingos.

Hmm, not sure about the Hammurabi code. That didn't have much to do with the supernatural.

Whattaya talkin about? Of course it does! Ya know-- a 3rd eye for a 3rd eye? Check your facts, man.

Only in Bizzaro land.

uberchops: Sabyen91: uberchops: Gyrfalcon: uberchops: That's Iranic.

/groan at will.

DIE DIE DIE INFIDEL!!!!!

Seriously, I'm sure the Old Testament, the Koran, the Constitution and the Necronomicon all have some kind of violent punishment for that kind of nonsense.

Oh, I have no doubt of that. Also, you forgot the bhagavad gita, and the Hammurabi code. The Tao Te Ching actually has my soul being fed to a pack of dingos.

Hmm, not sure about the Hammurabi code. That didn't have much to do with the supernatural.

Whattaya talkin about? Of course it does! Ya know-- a 3rd eye for a 3rd eye? Check your facts, man.

Heh, the third eye IS pretty awesome.

atomicmask: It seems everyone learned that guns are still the best way to fight an oppressive government.


Disagrees:

I would love the US to just be upfront and tell countries outright to fark off.
Instead of our long history of saying it behind the scenes.

It's Okay When We Do It - co-authored by Every Government Ever

eqtworld: That sucks, I liked those threads.

The Fark movement in a nutshell.

Clearly, the right Mullah doesn't know what the left Mullah is doing.

I condemn Ahmadinejad for having a better haircut.

Mentat

Is that photo real? I can't tell by the pixels, and I've haven't seen that many photoshops in my life.

Anyway, if that is real I am impressed that Rosie has taken on a second life in a hijab. Nice.

CowboyUpCowgirlDown: GIS result for "Iran trolls Italy"...

Whoa...

LindyJohn: Mentat

Is that photo real? I can't tell by the pixels, and I've haven't seen that many photoshops in my life.

Anyway, if that is real I am impressed that Rosie has taken on a second life in a hijab. Nice.

I think it's from a protest in Paris.

Mentat

I think it's from a protest in Paris.

Somehow that really warms my heart. She sure does get around. Thanks. :)

LindyJohn: Mentat

I think it's from a protest in Paris.

Somehow that really warms my heart. She sure does get around. Thanks. :)

definitely, it's amazing to see the different ways women have used Rosie to further the feminist cause.

/no, I don't think headscarves are inherently anti-feminist.

Hey all,

Seeing how there is an Iran thread, has anyone heard anything from our twitter people?

There was a article a while ago that said PK was arrested. Do we know any more information about him/her?

Thanks

\Keep the Green Faith

geom_00: Hey all,

Seeing how there is an Iran thread, has anyone heard anything from our twitter people?

There was a article a while ago that said PK was arrested. Do we know any more information about him/her?

Thanks

\Keep the Green Faith

Our twitter people. Heh. Tats rocks!

bugmn99: Iran does not care about Muslim people.

Wow, that is my favorite uncomfortable live tv moment of all time.

Mentat: LindyJohn: Mentat

Is that photo real? I can't tell by the pixels, and I've haven't seen that many photoshops in my life.

Anyway, if that is real I am impressed that Rosie has taken on a second life in a hijab. Nice.

I think it's from a protest in Paris.



I'd protest too if I had to be in Paris.

Genta: Lumi: Eh, no different from us chastising China or North Korea for human rights abuses like torture or holding people years without trial.

water boarding was not torture to the bush administration, it didnt cause permanent or even temporary physical damage. it was purely emotional and mental stress. if you accept that physical harm only is torture then waterboarding is not torture. this is a rational and justifiable stance.


holding people for years without trial... something obama is doing. why? because if you took a minute to look at WHO was being detained you would understand. as one example, a group of people left western china, leaving behind their wives and children. the left for jobs or whatever trying to get to somewhere... they got stuck in afghanistan without money to go further, and were doing odd jobs trying to get it together. the afghan natives knew they were outsiders and turned them in to the US claiming they were terrorists. the afghan natives got the bounty reward and the US picked up some terrorists and send them to Guantanamo bay. however the US figured out they were pawns after a while and then decided to send them back. china heard about it and declared them rebels for leaving their home region or whatever else. so they cant go back to china. other nations wont take them cause it will piss off china.... albania took a few, and then suddenly refused to take any more... nobody in the US wants suspected terrorists.... so... where do they go? no nation will accept them. you see the problem? they arent exactly being detained so much as they'd be arrested/killed if they were set free where china could get their hands on them.


but yes, lets vote obama for change.... he'll close guantanamo, move the people elsewhere and business as usual.

How is Obama holkd people for "years" without trial, when he's been in office for 6 months? Oh, that's right... it was the Bushies who held them for years, Obama is the guy trying to get that whole mess cleared up.

Yeah...

well, regardless of the messenger, the Italian police aren't known for being nice to protesters, immigrants (legal or otherwise), or football fans. not so sure about how mafia fares there though.

Link (new window)

pup.socket: well, regardless of the messenger, the Italian police aren't known for being nice to protesters, immigrants (legal or otherwise), or football fans. not so sure about how mafia fares there though.

Link (new window)

2001? Italian police? It's the Mexico of Europe.

CynicalLA:
2001? Italian police? It's the Mexico of Europe.

You sound excited.

pup.socket: CynicalLA:
2001? Italian police? It's the Mexico of Europe.

You sound excited.


I am.

Rub my nipple.

cedarpark: I'd protest too if I had to be in Paris.

You'd protest how much your Valtrex cost.

PC LOAD LETTER: cedarpark: I'd protest too if I had to be in Paris.

You'd protest how much your Valtrex cost.

You are wrong, he would protest how much Natty Light costs.

Sabyen91: PC LOAD LETTER: cedarpark: I'd protest too if I had to be in Paris.

You'd protest how much your Valtrex cost.

You are wrong, he would protest how much Natty Light costs.

You sound Italian, that's not good.

I do believe this is the first time the Ironic tag has been used correctly!

DNRTA

atomicmask: eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

Is Iran free yet?

No, apparently twitter is not a proper way to fight a revolutionary war. It seems everyone learned that guns are still the best way to fight an oppressive government. But it sure was fun pretending!

You are wrong. Information is what wins a revolution. That's why Twitter could have made the difference.

Of course, the best information is where to take your own guns to shoot the oppressive bastards.

OgreMagi: That's why Twitter could have made the difference.

The power of Twitter.

Begoggle: I do believe this is the first time the Ironic tag has been used correctly!

DNRTA

uuuuuuh, no.

atomicmask: eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

Is Iran free yet?

No, apparently twitter is not a proper way to fight a revolutionary war. It seems everyone learned that guns are still the best way to fight an oppressive government. But it sure was fun pretending!

It seems to me that the regime lost. They cannot be considered legitimate by their people or the international community. While business will continue as usual, they ideological battle is over. What this will mean in practice is hard to say. I don't expect much.

To finish the thought:

I think you have to avoid a bloodbath when possible. Try diplomacy, attempt to fix the system from within. An armed conflict would have cost many lives. It is tragic that it took even a handful.

There are times when it is worth making the sacrifice. Was this it? Is there no opportunity for peace, negotiation and reconciliation?

Not really for me to say.

Gawdzila: atomicmask: It seems everyone learned that guns are still the best way to fight an oppressive government.


Disagrees:

He would have gotten his head caved in by the Basij.
That non-violent protest stuff only works when the "oppressive government" is vastly outnumbered and cares how they are perceived by the rest of the world.
If the Iranian protesters had just held hands and sang "We Shall Overcome" it would have just made for a higher body-count.

Lenny_da_Hog: Okay, okay, okay...

On one hand, if we "liberate" the Iranians, we get all that oil.

On the other hand, if we "liberate" Italy, there's all of that priceless art and treasures...

Hmm. Oil or treasure. Oil or treasure...

Yeah, but get a load 'a the racks on some of those Ginas! My vote is Italy!

mandingueiro: the iran debacle is full of shiat. i support current government. Musavi is a powerhungry politician bent, not on democracy, but self aggrandizement. His pro 'westernized' policies would undermine Iranian culture and open up the economy to EuroAmerican exploitation.

/proud american

"All hail Krull and his glorious new regime, signed, Little Girl"

/Can someone photoshop Ahmadinejad on this? That would be fitting.

If you haven't yet, read the comments. Just.....wow.

JonnyBGoode: Is it opposite day?

It's the introduction to the opposite sketches.

mandingueiro: the iran debacle is full of shiat. i support current government. Musavi is a powerhungry politician bent, not on democracy, but self aggrandizement. His pro 'westernized' policies would undermine Iranian culture and open up the economy to EuroAmerican exploitation.

/proud american

Yeah right. Funny that you created your account around the time that the green revolution in Iran started to pick up steam. I think you're a shill for Iran, Basij-lover.

/Account created: 2008-06-16 17:08:45, you liar.

sn0r: mandingueiro: the iran debacle is full of shiat. i support current government. Musavi is a powerhungry politician bent, not on democracy, but self aggrandizement. His pro 'westernized' policies would undermine Iranian culture and open up the economy to EuroAmerican exploitation.

/proud american

Yeah right. Funny that you created your account around the time that the green revolution in Iran started to pick up steam. I think you're a shill for Iran, Basij-lover.

/Account created: 2008-06-16 17:08:45, you liar.

Oops. 2008. My bad. Still, you're a shill imo.

sn0r: sn0r: mandingueiro: the iran debacle is full of shiat. i support current government. Musavi is a powerhungry politician bent, not on democracy, but self aggrandizement. His pro 'westernized' policies would undermine Iranian culture and open up the economy to EuroAmerican exploitation.

/proud american

Yeah right. Funny that you created your account around the time that the green revolution in Iran started to pick up steam. I think you're a shill for Iran, Basij-lover.

/Account created: 2008-06-16 17:08:45, you liar.

Oops. 2008. My bad. Still, you're a shill imo.

lol...

dave2198: sn0r: sn0r: mandingueiro: the iran debacle is full of shiat. i support current government. Musavi is a powerhungry politician bent, not on democracy, but self aggrandizement. His pro 'westernized' policies would undermine Iranian culture and open up the economy to EuroAmerican exploitation.

/proud american

Yeah right. Funny that you created your account around the time that the green revolution in Iran started to pick up steam. I think you're a shill for Iran, Basij-lover.

/Account created: 2008-06-16 17:08:45, you liar.

Oops. 2008. My bad. Still, you're a shill imo.

lol...

We can't all be perfect like you.

sn0r: dave2198: sn0r: sn0r: mandingueiro: the iran debacle is full of shiat. i support current government. Musavi is a powerhungry politician bent, not on democracy, but self aggrandizement. His pro 'westernized' policies would undermine Iranian culture and open up the economy to EuroAmerican exploitation.

/proud american

Yeah right. Funny that you created your account around the time that the green revolution in Iran started to pick up steam. I think you're a shill for Iran, Basij-lover.

/Account created: 2008-06-16 17:08:45, you liar.

Oops. 2008. My bad. Still, you're a shill imo.

lol...

We can't all be perfect like you.

wtf?

Calm down, skippy. I am allowed to laugh when things go wrong, right? Or just when it's somebody else?

That's offensive and you are no Patriot. A fetish for guns would have sealed the revolution. ?

dave2198: sn0r: dave2198: sn0r: sn0r: mandingueiro: the iran debacle is full of shiat. i support current government. Musavi is a powerhungry politician bent, not on democracy, but self aggrandizement. His pro 'westernized' policies would undermine Iranian culture and open up the economy to EuroAmerican exploitation.

/proud american

Yeah right. Funny that you created your account around the time that the green revolution in Iran started to pick up steam. I think you're a shill for Iran, Basij-lover.

/Account created: 2008-06-16 17:08:45, you liar.

Oops. 2008. My bad. Still, you're a shill imo.

lol...

We can't all be perfect like you.

wtf?

Calm down, skippy. I am allowed to laugh when things go wrong, right? Or just when it's somebody else?

In my defence, I just woke up. ;-)

Laugh? I nearly shat!

Disappointed by the lack of irony basij in this thread.

How is this ironic?

fendrluvr: That's quite hypocritical, but I really don't see what this has to do with Michael Jackson.

It has everything to do with Michael Jackson; his death is the reason for the resignation of Michael Palin as the governor of Alaska to spend more time with her lawyers, and lead directly to this sad situation we call Caturday.

Guess_Who: How is this ironic?

0/10 on the Trollometer. Dude, you've got to put some effort into it. This is just embarrassing - I'd be asking the mods to remove your post out of shame, not out of disagreement or offense.

That's it. If it's the last thing I see, I want to just see a slo-mo punch connect ahmadumbass's jaw.


/like brad pitt at the end of snatch did to that other guy.
//then, FREEZE FRAME!
///khamenei too, impartial my ass. worst lie since "fair and balanced".

ps: isn't that cute, they've got a picture! I've got a video of a girl they said was shot in the head by the CIA drowning in her own blood after being shot in the chest by the basij. we should make a trade!

Gawdzila: atomicmask: It seems everyone learned that guns are still the best way to fight an oppressive government.


Disagrees:

Ghandi failed in spectacular fashion. He is an icon of failure.

...but I approve of beating G8 protestors.

Buncha damn commie hippies that are no better than Ahmadinejad and his thugs.

B-b-b-b-b-but China
B-b-b-b-b-but Italy
B-b-b-b-b-but Germany
B-b-b-b-b-but the United States are more evil!

cristo_delenda_est: GhandiGandhi failed in spectacular fashion. He is an icon of failure.

FTFY

TheGreatZarquon: Ok, now I'm SURE they're trolling. Either that, or they're desperately trying to look like the good guys by pointing out every single incidence of someone doing the same thing he did, so that everyone forgets the weeks of unending bloodshed he dealt out to his own citizens.

That is what they're doing. Of course, what happens in Italy pales in comparison to what Iran does, but it's the general idea. And it's pathetic.

Mouser: ...but I approve of beating G8 protestors.

Buncha damn commie hippies that are no better than Ahmadinejad and his thugs.

Throw in WTO rioters, and I'll go right along.

/Had a promising student suborned into committing felonies for them in the Seattle riots
//Caught stealing broadcasting equip and computers from the college
///The idiot bastards vandalized and assaulted everything in their path, including destroying Starbucks and McDonalds that were providing them with water.

Gawdzila: atomicmask: It seems everyone learned that guns are still the best way to fight an oppressive government.


Disagrees:

Really? Is he not the same guy that said "If someone is shooting at you with a gun, it is reasonable to take your own gun and shoot him back"

Also Indias exception to the rule did not negate the rule. A one time fluke vs the hundreds of other regimes removed threw civil war does not add up to a huge change.

OgreMagi: atomicmask: eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

Is Iran free yet?

No, apparently twitter is not a proper way to fight a revolutionary war. It seems everyone learned that guns are still the best way to fight an oppressive government. But it sure was fun pretending!

You are wrong. Information is what wins a revolution. That's why Twitter could have made the difference.

Of course, the best information is where to take your own guns to shoot the oppressive bastards.

Of course information HELPS to win and change things, but all in all, its a bullet traveling down the barrel of a gun that finally makes the difference. Totalitarian regimes do not remove themselves peacefully, if they did they wouldnt be totalitarian regimes.

eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

Is Iran free yet?

I'm most pissed about Fark silently removing the green band. I mean WTF, the protest are still going on.

atomicmask: Gawdzila: atomicmask: It seems everyone learned that guns are still the best way to fight an oppressive government.


Disagrees:

Really? Is he not the same guy that said "If someone is shooting at you with a gun, it is reasonable to take your own gun and shoot him back"

No that was the Dalai Lama, but he's also an internationally recognized icon of failure. So I see what you did there.

MindStalker: eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

Is Iran free yet?

I'm most pissed about Fark silently removing the green band. I mean WTF, the protest are still going on.

I came here to say that. Seriously, thanks Fark. You went the way of the Main Stream Media. Hey lets have 50 more Michael Jackson threads!

Deagan Herumor: MindStalker: eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

Is Iran free yet?

I'm most pissed about Fark silently removing the green band. I mean WTF, the protest are still going on.

I came here to say that. Seriously, thanks Fark. You went the way of the Main Stream Media. Hey lets have 50 more Michael Jackson threads!

Ever try to view fark w/o Adblock? its horrendous.

Lumi: Eh, no different from us chastising China or North Korea for human rights abuses like torture or holding people years without trial.

TOTALLY THIS.

(But of course, being civilized, we only beat, shoot and torture people who are from a different country....usually...unless they're black, or bicyclists, or old ladies arguing with a traffic cop.

Deagan Herumor: MindStalker: eqtworld: What happened to the daily 1000 post Iran threads and the green band?

Is Iran free yet?

I'm most pissed about Fark silently removing the green band. I mean WTF, the protest are still going on.

I came here to say that. Seriously, thanks Fark. You went the way of the Main Stream Media. Hey lets have 50 more Michael Jackson threads!

I'll pile on as well. I guess the dumbass that wanted the green band removed wasn't even paying attention to how monumental the events in Iran are, and just thought "derrr I guess it's over". Not by a long shot.

Lumi: Eh, no different from us chastising China or North Korea for human rights abuses like torture or holding people years without trial.

Yeah but I think the difference is that we recognize it's wrong and we're trying to at least not do that anymore. Whereas China has been doing it forever and have done worse. North Korea is a whole 'nother level.

But that's just me.

From July 10th, Nite Owl's Green Brief

Protests / Unrest

1. There was a gathering of the families of those detained during the protests in Tehran today. Protesters stood in front of Kalantari 103 Pasdaran, 140 Baghe Faiz and Enghelab Square. Numbers cannot be confirmed, but the numbers were probably small.

2. It has not been confirmed that Basijis attacked the dorms of the Polytechnic University yesterday. The presence of Rafsanjani's family was also partially confirmed. Still no word of whether Mousavi joined mourners later in the evening like he said he would.

3. Police in Nicosia, Cyprus clashes with Iranian protesters in front of the Iranian Embassy. People were seen being dragged and reports indicate that several were arrested and held for several hours. Whether this was from July 09 cannot be confirmed at this point. Here's a video related to the incident: Revolutionary Road...: Shame on Cyprus police!


Government / International

4. Ayatollah Hashim Hashim-Zadeh Hareesi - a member of the Assembly of Experts - said today that people had started to distrust the system. He explained that whatever had happened after the election had caused people to become suspicious and that the government needed to take strides to restore people's trust otherwise, distrust could result in further more severe problems.

5. Tehran's Interim Fridays Prayers Leader Ayatollah Mohammad Emami-Kashani asked the Majlis of Iran to take measures in solving some short-comings that are present in the current electoral law. According to Ayatollah Emami Kashani, the unrest that followed the recent election was a result of those short-comings.

6. The Guardian Council's spokesperson, Abbas Ali Kadkhodaie said today that the Guardian Council was currently going over the entire election. According to him, the Council will soon release a detailed report about the election. The Council has already affirmed the impartiality and accuracy of the election which leaves little room for further investigation into charges of fraud.

7. The French Ambassador in Tehran met with Clotilde Reiss, the detained Frenchwoman who's currently being held in Iran on charges of espionage. According to the ambassador, Ms. Reiss looked in good mental health. It is not clear as of yet when she will be released.

8. Iran's government today summoned the German ambassador and questioned him about the death of an Egyptian woman in Germany at the hands of racist extremists. Iranian TV continues to show her death and accuse the West of acting against Muslims in Europe.

9. The G7 nations + Russia have given Iran till September to restart negotiations on its controversial nuclear program. It was unclear what Iran's rejection of this offer would entail. The statement came during a meeting in l'Aquila, Italy where the group was meeting to go over the world-wide economic downturn.

10. A U.S. panel has demanded that Baha'is facing trial in Iran be released immediately. Baha'is are a religious minority in Iran who believe in a universal religion and are fervent supporters of world peace. They are openly persecuted because of the country's strict religious laws.

11. The Canadian government also summoned the Iranian ambassador in Ottawa and demanded the immediate release of Canadian-Iranian journalist Mazyar Bahari. Bahari has been detained for a while now and the government is trying to keep a lid on his whereabouts. He works for Newsweek.


Arrests / Releases / Deaths

12. Iranian-American Scholar, Kian Tajbakhsh has been arrested according to reliable sources. Majid Durri has also been rearrested. There are also reports that security forces arrested several students during their raid at Amir Kabir University's dorm. Their fate remains unknown.

13. The only person released today was Kambiz Noroozi, yet his release cannot be fully confirmed. Family members of several political prisoners - including those of Mirdamadi and Hajjarian - met with Ayatollah Mousavi Aradabeli today. Ayatollah Ardabeli consoled the families and discussed the issue with them. He later said that this is an important issue and needed to be dealt with as soon as possible.

14. Reports have now surfaced that people detained during yesterday's protests have been moved to Evin Prison. The prison is reportedly so full that people are kept in the corridors. Sources have confirmed that people are being viciously tortured and detainees are underfed. Many are facing solitary confinement.


Media

15. Fars News has reported that the government has discovered a recording studio belonging to the BBC at Mousavi's campaign headquarters. Iranian media continues to beat the drum of an Egyptian woman's death in Germany and protests yesterday were for the most part, ignored.

CynicalLA: 2001? Italian police? It's the Mexico of Europe.

Quick explanation: there are two Italian national police forces, one run by civilians and one run by the military: the Polizia and Carabinieri respectively. They are both extremely incompetent. There's a story of a bank robbery, and the Polizia and Carabinieri both arrived on the scene. A deal had to be struck that the Polizia got the suspects, and the Carabinieri got the evidence.
And that's only one reason why Italy is the Mexico of Europe

/Italian joke: two Carabinieri walk into an apartment building. The suspect is on the top floor. The first Carabiniere says to the other "call the elevator." The second then yells "elevator!" The first says, "no, with your finger." The second puts his finger in his mouth and yells "ewevator!"
//lived there 3 months

Ha ha, that's as hilariously ironic as the United States criticising other countries for human rights violations.

Techhell: fendrluvr: That's quite hypocritical, but I really don't see what this has to do with Michael Jackson.

It has everything to do with Michael Jackson; his death is the reason for the resignation of Michael Palin as the governor of Alaska to spend more time with her lawyers, and lead directly to this sad situation we call Caturday.

Lumi: Eh, no different from us chastising China or North Korea for human rights abuses like torture or holding people years without trial.

painendstheass: Ha ha, that's as hilariously ironic as the United States criticising other countries for human rights violations.


Y'all really have no concept of scale, do you?

/'Cause Free Speech Zones are clearly the same as the Cultural Revolution

Some news:

Advisor to Iranian supreme leader calls for tolerance of dissent (new window)

And I can't wait to receive Iran's special "package"...

Iran's Package (new window)

/air quotes are fun.

luidprand: Lumi: Eh, no different from us chastising China or North Korea for human rights abuses like torture or holding people years without trial.

painendstheass: Ha ha, that's as hilariously ironic as the United States criticising other countries for human rights violations.


Y'all really have no concept of scale, do you?

/'Cause Free Speech Zones are clearly the same as the Cultural Revolution

You don't understand the Evil Cultural Relativism Reflex do you? Not matter what any other nation does, from cannibalism to female circumcision, it's on the same scale as American mores and actions.

I don't think it takes more than 3 posts from any wicked thing done in the world before the United States is brought into the discussion.

Dear Irani government,

STFU and go away.

Sincerely,

The entire planet

Fano: luidprand: Lumi: Eh, no different from us chastising China or North Korea for human rights abuses like torture or holding people years without trial.

painendstheass: Ha ha, that's as hilariously ironic as the United States criticising other countries for human rights violations.


Y'all really have no concept of scale, do you?

/'Cause Free Speech Zones are clearly the same as the Cultural Revolution

You don't understand the Evil Cultural Relativism Reflex do you? Not matter what any other nation does, from cannibalism to female circumcision, it's on the same scale as American mores and actions.

I don't think it takes more than 3 posts from any wicked thing done in the world before the United States is brought into the discussion.

Yes, why would the remaining international superpower who often is involved in world affairs be mentioned so much in regard to world affairs?

RemyDuron: Fano: luidprand: Lumi: Eh, no different from us chastising China or North Korea for human rights abuses like torture or holding people years without trial.

painendstheass: Ha ha, that's as hilariously ironic as the United States criticising other countries for human rights violations.


Y'all really have no concept of scale, do you?

/'Cause Free Speech Zones are clearly the same as the Cultural Revolution

You don't understand the Evil Cultural Relativism Reflex do you? Not matter what any other nation does, from cannibalism to female circumcision, it's on the same scale as American mores and actions.

I don't think it takes more than 3 posts from any wicked thing done in the world before the United States is brought into the discussion.

Yes, why would the remaining international superpower who often is involved in world affairs be mentioned so much in regard to world affairs?

No, that makes sense. But the abuses of the US (or most of the Western nations, for that matter) are so trivial when compared to China and Iran (or even Venezuela) as to be nonexistent. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't strive to better ourselves, but comparing the Western states' crimes to those of, say, Sudan and Nigeria and so on marginalizes their sins and shifts the burden away from them.

By not holding every nation to the same standards (and say, comparing as equal the treatment of sex workers in American cities to those in Cambodia as opposed to looking at both kind an scale), one actually is stating that either a) all crimes are equal (which is untrue) or b) it is acceptable to hold non-Post-Industrial nations to different standards (which implies they can't achieve those standards, which is also untrue).

And to bring up slavery (which happened in the US over 140 years ago, was supported by less than a quarter the population at that time, and were not the ancestors of the vast majority of the current population anyways) as the same as African, Communist, or South-East Asian slavery which is happening right now is as silly as comparing the Inquisition (less people killed than in Cromwell's purging of Ireland) to the purges of the Islamic Revolution.

Lumi: Eh, no different from us chastising China or North Korea for human rights abuses like torture or holding people years without trial.

Yeah but the DPRK and PRC have been doing that regularly for at least half a century! We're still pretty new at that.


I wonder if anyone's going to go on CNN (ha!) and show Italian cops maybe roughing up some protesters, then show Basij shooting and killing non-violent protesters in an effort to publicly humiliate Ahmadinnerjacket.

-Iran foreign ministry to current dictatorship: "Mr. Tater, I don't think the MIB mind eraser you got off ebay is working; they still remember last month."

-Mr. Dick Tater: "Damn that Tommy Lee Jones"