erewhon: Nicotine does help you stay up longer than otherwise. And it doesn't give you the godawful headache you get if you shave a little off a claymore for a substitute dip (a VERY little between your cheek and gum...)

A little what off of a claymore? A little of plastic casing that completely surrounds the main charge? The explosive is not readly acessable on a directional mine.

And putting explosives in your mouth is a BAD idea. I am sure you have heard stories about people eating/dipping whatever. They are not true. Some people will stick a bit of C4 in their mouth to impress the boots, but they spit it out when nobody is looking. One brilliant individual in my unit tried actually eating the stuff, and a few hours later he was foaming at the mouth and having seizures as they drove him to the hospital. There was some argument about wether it was the chemical tracers in the c4 or the c4 itself that screwed him up, but there was no arguing that he was jacked up by a Very small peice.

Protip: They want to ban smoking in the military for the same reason they want to ban it for civilians. It shaves money off the cost of universal health care.

Flyinglemur:

Mind you that the Taco Bell/KFC/Pizza Hut at the hospital is still open and the bar flows freely at the Navy/Corpsman Ball(s).

(this doesn't really apply to me as I only smoke Cigars but still seems heavy handed)

That's a good one: if they tell the troops they can't smoke, will they kick the fast food joints off the base? How about the couple of Starbucks locations on Ft Bragg and Ft Gordon? What about the package stores? Won't end with the cigarettes folks, trust me.

Weaver95

Think about that for a moment. Society is just fine with soldiers out there in danger...but letting them smoke gets people upset. the mind set required for that sort of slobbering idiocy is staggering.

THIS. So, so very this.

nightfire: Weaver95:

Think about that for a moment. Society is just fine with soldiers out there in danger...but letting them smoke gets people upset. the mind set required for that sort of slobbering idiocy is staggering.

THIS. So, so very this.

Huh? I'm pretty sure it's not the same set of people on either side of that equation.

Subby fail

Marpiddycity:
I leave for Navy bootcamp in a week and a half, and I'm going to miss cigarettes, and I don't want to die prematurely/ have a robot throat voice just because I liked tobacco. But seriously, wtf? Why do they have to talk about these stupid bans right before I start my 6 years.

Ask for an academic drop after you make EM3, liberty is worth more than the extra pay.


/I'm in the military trying to quit smoking, so I'm really getting a kick withdraw rage fits...

Yes Sound: erewhon: Nicotine does help you stay up longer than otherwise. And it doesn't give you the godawful headache you get if you shave a little off a claymore for a substitute dip (a VERY little between your cheek and gum...)

A little what off of a claymore? A little of plastic casing that completely surrounds the main charge? The explosive is not readly acessable on a directional mine.

And putting explosives in your mouth is a BAD idea. I am sure you have heard stories about people eating/dipping whatever. They are not true. Some people will stick a bit of C4 in their mouth to impress the boots, but they spit it out when nobody is looking. One brilliant individual in my unit tried actually eating the stuff, and a few hours later he was foaming at the mouth and having seizures as they drove him to the hospital. There was some argument about wether it was the chemical tracers in the c4 or the c4 itself that screwed him up, but there was no arguing that he was jacked up by a Very small peice.

This is what I get for posting half asleep at 3:30. Sorry, I was trying to be tongue in cheek but came off sounding like a dumbass. It's one of those jokes like being sent for a box of grid squares, as you pointed out. I was being too obscure.

Actually, there's not a lot in c4 that's directly toxic. Rdx is a real strong vasodilator and will drop your blood pressure like nobody's business.

erewhon: This is what I get for posting half asleep at 3:30. Sorry, I was trying to be tongue in cheek but came off sounding like a dumbass. It's one of those jokes like being sent for a box of grid squares, as you pointed out. I was being too obscure.

Actually, there's not a lot in c4 that's directly toxic. Rdx is a real strong vasodilator and will drop your blood pressure like nobody's business.

I didn't know that about RDX. We could not find anything saying that the actual explosive or the plastics were toxic. We had to fall back and say that the trace amounts of whatever chemical they put in it so that they can identify the residue are what hurts you. (The entire chain of commnand suffered for that incident, and part of the punishment was writing up a lenghty essay about just exactaly why c4 is bad for you.

Its always fun to send people off for an id10-t form, or a smaw blank firing apparatus, or a firing pin sharpener. We had a particularly mouthy kid that got sent over to the comm shop to check out a PRK-E5. He came back a loooong time later looking worn out.

Well, the smallish doses of RDX you'd get from handling C4 aren't much of an issue. It gives some people a headache, although not as much as handling dynamite or detcord.

If you get a bigger dose, it tanks your blood pressure, makes you secrete fluid into your lungs, and can make you have seizures. Past that, it will booger up your heart's pacing system and just kill you. But it takes a goodish bit of RDX to do that.

What can get some people is walking through where you just popped off a big load of RDX, because some of the combustion byproducts of it are also toxic in other ways, and inhaling them will make you sick if you're trapped in with it, first and foremost you'll get a headache, then a nagging cough, at that point you need to un-ass.

It's why they may have told you not to pop C4 in a building you plan to stay in. If you need a door or wall buster charge det cord is safer. RDX fumes in a building where they don't disperse are bad news.