I would totally hit that. I just thought you guys would like to know that about me.

The pic from yesterday's local coverage was much better....

Boberto: mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

We can't all be Scout leaders..

highendmighty:

The census estimates the number of illegal aliens in the US and assumes, quite rightly, that they are uninsured.

/crawls back under bridge.

I don't doubt that but we still pay for them all once they show up at the hospital. I know no ones numbers are exact but I think the US census numbers have to be the closest quess!

LeeOfTampa: The pic from yesterday's local coverage was much better....

ooh, naughty underaged librarian... let's get her convicted cuz there is a great naughty underaged librarian behind bars movie script in there somewherer.

*stares back*

Deacon Blue: Not unless you want to get taken to the cleaners in the civil suit.

Yeah, I suppose drawing the whole thing out would have been much more convenient for all those involved.. how many assets did this girl have? enough to make your point make sense? PS, car insurance covers the cost of that - 45 days and a $16,000 insurance payout later and the guy that got hit limped away on his crutches. That was his civil suit... The 20 year old had assets my friend www.jdavid.ca (Minas Realties). Of which he did not have to award a % to the guy he hit...again...his insurance covered it - if you had assets you would know about insurance.

I feel sorry for the Americans, can't do or say anything without a lawyer because anyone and everyone can and will take you to the cleaners.

Just curious... what civil suit would the biker in question (in my short anecdote) be able to bring that would award him any extra damages ontop of what was already given?

Is there nothing Meatloaf cannot fix?

I was going to post that the deceased was probably mostly at fault for the accident, the driver was a criminal dirtbag for running and then trying to cover it up, and that the fast lane booking was totally irrelevant and probably a good thing over all. But I couldn't think up a pithy punchline or anything to be outraged over, so forget I said anything.

Boberto: I was 19, he was 20. We got out and made sure the guy was alive, it was totally my buddies fault and he admitted it directly (to the victim, and police later) while I called 911 to report it.....

That is what people who aren't total farking idiots do. Can you actually sit there and try and defend snowflake's actions as "the right thing to do" because she's 17?

As the right thing to do? Fark no, but as something that might be understandable? Yeah. Here's a news flash for you: not everybody deals with farked up situations in the same way. Some people freak out and do stupid shiat. She turned herself in after calming down. It's not like she went and got her car repainted to try to cover up the crime. She panicked.

Darth Mewling: Considering that number is a lie, and it's really closer to 10 million people who don't have it at all and can't get it. You can STFU.

Do you believe everything Lou Dobbs tells you?

HMS_Blinkin: Boberto: I want to revoke any anger/hostility towards HMS Blinkin. Just read he was unaware of the timeline.. should have given linkies to you! Sorry.

No, it's fine...I had just made some wrong assumptions about Miss Snowflake. Knowing the whole story (and reading some of the links posted in this thread) is making me feel a lot less lenient.

Don't even worry about it. Threads are for arguing, getting more facts, changing previous thoughts, then a hand-shake and makeup (usually). This story was so skewed based on the sparse article.

Honestly though,

Let's do this again some time!

sxacho: Ruby'sMamma: sxacho: DslainteC: Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Homeless does not mean without family.

Next you're going to tell me that fat people have feelings too?

Yes. They do, but it takes longer to reach thier hearts...

wyrlss: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

Calm down. It's an old joke, noone is being serious.

she'll be in hustler before you know it

MindStalker: wyrlss: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

Calm down. It's an old joke, noone is being serious.

speak for yourself, libtard.

If I read correctly between the lines, I think she will skate free on this one.

She was charged with careless driving--the dick didn't show, so case dismissed.

She can't be tried again, so double jeopardy.

If she gets convicted she would win on appeal, most likely.

F*cking shame.

One is a useful member of society, the other is simply a drain on state resources.

mcsiegs: I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

Well, your mom is always busy, so we have to think of alternatives.

Ant: mcsiegs: I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

Well, your mom is always busy, so we have to think of alternatives.

I know. I was going to be his Dad, but the dog beat me over the fence.

Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

MindStalker: wyrlss: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

Calm down. It's an old joke, noone is being serious.

I know that specific joke, but the sentiment that homeless people don't deserve the protection of the law, that their lives lack value because they have less, is commonly expressed.

And this is coming from someone whose wife often chides him for lacking compassion.

FTA: Dee Ann Athan said she and other defense lawyers routinely have their clients use the program.

I wonder why?

Valdez was originally cited for careless driving, but the citation was dismissed when the detective who issued it failed to appear in court to testify.

Oh that's why. Don't give the officer a chance to show up on a possible manslaughter charge and everyone is in the clear.

dstanley: So if she would have stopped, called the cops and said, "Hey, this dumb biatch was jaywalking at night in front of me and I hit her," she'd be off scot-free?

Yes. It's not automatically a crime to hit someone or something with your car, if it's not your fault. People can "jump out" unexpectedly. Leaving the scene is the crime.

Also, it's not even automatic that leaving the scene is a crime if you can prove that you were unaware you hit something. A woman in a van scratched my mirror while I was stopped one day, and kept going. I followed her and got her license, but the cops wouldn't even get involved. They simply gave me her personal info and told me to contact my insurance company.

Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

olddinosaur: If I read correctly between the lines, I think she will skate free on this one.

She was charged with careless driving--the dick didn't show, so case dismissed.

She can't be tried again, so double jeopardy.

If she gets convicted she would win on appeal, most likely.

F*cking shame.

Thankfully, this is not correct. Jeopardy only attaches when the jury is sworn, so simply dropping an initial charge is of no importance constitutionally. She can certainly be tried and convicted.

/law-talking guy

Joelogon: I don't use the Self-Arrest lane because it doesn't really save you any time, and I hate doing my own handcuffing.

The self handcuffing is what's all about!

wyrlss: MindStalker: wyrlss: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

Calm down. It's an old joke, noone is being serious.

I know that specific joke, but the sentiment that homeless people don't deserve the protection of the law, that their lives lack value because they have less, is commonly expressed.

And this is coming from someone whose wife often chides him for lacking compassion.

I don't think anyone here is expressing that. Pretty much everyone I've ever spoken to are disgusted by those "Bum Fight" videos people put out.

What a waste all around.

KillerFuzz: Joelogon: I don't use the Self-Arrest lane because it doesn't really save you any time, and I hate doing my own handcuffing.

The self handcuffing is what's all about!

Just ask David Carradine

olddinosaur: She was charged with careless driving--the dick didn't show, so case dismissed.

She can't be tried again, so double jeopardy.

No - she was arrested and released on bail. Still faces charges in the case.

mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

You don't understand guys then. I can have just had sex for hours, see any girl who's average or better, and immediately start thinking about sex again.

skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

An editorial opinion, course of. :-P

Very sad for the victim and her family, but putting a 17-year-old girl in jail for driving like a teenager isn't going to fix anything. She hit someone by accident and freaked out, as many people would. So now you're going to put her in an adult prison for 30 years to... what? Teach her a lesson? What does that teach her, exactly? "Don't act like a teenager"? All you're doing is punishing her for something they didn't mean to do and making sure that she will not be able to do anything useful with her life afterward, none of which will bring the victim back to life nor make her family miss her any less (and yes, homeless people can have families).

wyrlss: American-

I don't think it's an American attitude. I think it's an internet attitude. Where's that Internet Tough Guy pic when I need it...

Wendy's Chili: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

An editorial opinion, course of. :-P

well it's op-ed and it's short for "opposite the editorial page" but anyway, I am curious to see this op-ed you're talking about. What Bush advisor wrote it and when?

Those puffy lips look just like my Fleshlight!

Gawdzila: Very sad for the victim and her family, but putting a 17-year-old girl in jail for driving like a teenager isn't going to fix anything. She hit someone by accident and freaked out, as many people would. So now you're going to put her in an adult prison for 30 years to... what? Teach her a lesson? What does that teach her, exactly? "Don't act like a teenager"? All you're doing is punishing her for something they didn't mean to do and making sure that she will not be able to do anything useful with her life afterward, none of which will bring the victim back to life nor make her family miss her any less (and yes, homeless people can have families).

+1
Take away her license til she's 21. Give her 200 hours community service in a homeless shelter and fine her. That's fair for leaving the scene of an accident, imo

They need a self-trial lane. You plead your case and others in the line give you a thumbs up or down.

skullkrusher: Take away her license til she's 21. Give her 200 hours community service in a homeless shelter and fine her. That's fair for leaving the scene of an accident, imo

Then, bathe her and bring her to me.

skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

An editorial opinion, course of. :-P

well it's op-ed and it's short for "opposite the editorial page" but anyway, I am curious to see this op-ed you're talking about. What Bush advisor wrote it and when?

The NYT link that Darth Mewling provided was written by N. Gregory Mankiw, the Chairman of President Bush's Council of Economic Advisors.

He also happens to be heavily influenced by Keynes, as are most of Obama's econ advisors, so I am not entirely sure what Wendy's Chili is getting at. Probably guilt by association.

DslainteC: If I understand this correctly, you can kill someone in a hit-and-run, book yourself in and out in minutes, get the original charge thrown out because of police indifference, and then use plea bargaining to serve no jail time. Good job, Florida! Now I know which state to visit the next time my bloodlust boils over. I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

Probably about the same way they felt about leaving their family member homeless?

Boberto: Deacon Blue:

Just curious... what civil suit would the biker in question (in my short anecdote) be able to bring that would award him any extra damages ontop of what was already given?

Oh, my lord. Let me tell you a story how a guy, who badly cut me off in traffic and got hit in the back as a result at a speed of 15 mph (!!!) walked away with a 2inch paint scratch (!!!) on his back bumper and 45K of my insurance's money. Oh wait, I think that was the story.

/Thank got I had good insurance.
//Can only imagine, what would happen if he had any real injuries. The insurance would've dropped me and my parents would've probably lost their house..

Gawdzila: Very sad for the victim and her family, but putting a 17-year-old girl in jail for driving like a teenager isn't going to fix anything. She hit someone by accident and freaked out, as many people would. So now you're going to put her in an adult prison for 30 years to... what? Teach her a lesson? What does that teach her, exactly? "Don't act like a teenager"? All you're doing is punishing her for something they didn't mean to do and making sure that she will not be able to do anything useful with her life afterward, none of which will bring the victim back to life nor make her family miss her any less (and yes, homeless people can have families).

"Driving like a teenager" means killing people? So all teenagers should be allowed one free killing? You're farking retarded.

And while most people might freak out after killing someone, most people would not flee the scene and hope no one cathes them.

Also, it's possible that she fled for a reason, like being under the influence at the time, which would make her no better than any other hit-and-run DUI murderer. And before you make a retarded "she was just drunk driving like a teenager" excuse, if you don't know that drunk driving is illegal and potentially deadly by the age of 17, chances are you're never going to do anything good with your life anyway and should have the book thrown at you.

skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

It's the reverse of op-ed, or opinion (of the) editor or editorial. The same people that allow all sorts of screwy shiat make it to press.

There was another hit and run case in Tampa where a dance instructor killed two children and injured two more. She received three years of probation. I'm guessing Ms. Valdez's penalty will be similar.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

An editorial opinion, course of. :-P

well it's op-ed and it's short for "opposite the editorial page" but anyway, I am curious to see this op-ed you're talking about. What Bush advisor wrote it and when?

The NYT link that Darth Mewling provided was written by N. Gregory Mankiw, the Chairman of President Bush's Council of Economic Advisors.

He also happens to be heavily influenced by Keynes, as are most of Obama's econ advisors, so I am not entirely sure what Wendy's Chili is getting at. Probably guilt by association.

ah, I saw his (new window) links but they weren't actually links.
Can you repost? Wanna chiggity check it out.
Danke in advance