I don't use the Self-Arrest lane because it doesn't really save you any time, and I hate doing my own handcuffing.

I'd hit it and run....once she turns 18.

jehovahs witness protection: I'd hit it and run....once she turns 18.

If you do it before, I'm sure you can just use the Self Arrest Lane and spare yourself some PMITA prison...

If I understand this correctly, you can kill someone in a hit-and-run, book yourself in and out in minutes, get the original charge thrown out because of police indifference, and then use plea bargaining to serve no jail time. Good job, Florida! Now I know which state to visit the next time my bloodlust boils over. I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

I use the self-arrest lane so I can give myself a body cavity search.

Seriously, a self-arrest lane???? Only in Florida.

I can't wait until they invent Self-PMITA prisons.

Smokin body. There, it had to be said. You are all thinking it. Oh to be 17 again.

"Valdez was originally cited for careless driving, but the citation was dismissed when the detective who issued it failed to appear in court to testify". oh

DslainteC: If I understand this correctly, you can kill someone in a hit-and-run, book yourself in and out in minutes, get the original charge thrown out because of police indifference, and then use plea bargaining to serve no jail time. Good job, Florida! Now I know which state to visit the next time my bloodlust boils over. I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

As long as you have the money and are not a minority you should be good to go. Happy bloodlusting!

DslainteC: I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

It only works if you're young and pretty enough.

I am gonna self arrest myself for checking out her Boobiess.

/she legal?

Is hitting a homeless person even illegal?

Stick it in her pooper!

/I would

Wow, I would totally hit that.

/Even though she is a shiatty driver

FTFA
A Davis Islands teen charged in a fatal hit-and-run didn't get special treatment when she was booked and released in less than 20 minutes.
maybe not there but definitely below....

Valdez's attorneys had negotiated with prosecutors to have her released on her own recognizance.

OH COME THE FARK ON!!! HIT AND RUN MANSLAUGHTER AND SHE GETS A "ROR" AND THE COP "DIDN'T SHOW UP"....RIGHT..iT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HER FAMILY'S WEALTH.

/FAIR IS FAIR!!!

Came for the "I'd hit it and run" comments and will be leaving quite satisfied.

merreborn: DslainteC: I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

It only works if you're young and pretty enough.

Hey, Donte Stallworth only served 24 days for killing someone and he was drunk.

skullkrusher: I am gonna self arrest myself for checking out her Boobiess.

/she legal?

Legal enough for the leaders of France and the U.S.

/giggity

DslainteC: If I understand this correctly, you can kill someone in a hit-and-run, book yourself in and out in minutes, get the original charge thrown out because of police indifference, and then use plea bargaining to serve no jail time. Good job, Florida! Now I know which state to visit the next time my bloodlust boils over. I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

her family didn't care enough to make her not homeless so I am guessing they might issue a collective "meh".

Anyway, TFA says she could face 30 years in prison but it is likely she'll plea bargain down and serve no time. No mention that she was drunk or anything so her only real crime is leaving the scene of an accident... should she get Old Sparky for that?

4-11 and 97 pounds, about 20 of which is in her bra.

Headso: Is hitting a homeless person even illegal?

Only if you're a minority.

It's a shame this chick is a minor too..

Whoever that is on the right, she's twice the man I'll ever be.

/somebody call Beowulf stat, Grendel got out again.

Please remember, this is the same country where you can kill someone while driving intoxicated and only serve 28 day (as long as you're an athelete), but god forbid you download a song illegally then it's 3 years in prison.

She's given me an erection at work.

I object! Didn't get to do a cavity search and didn't get to run a DNA check!

DslainteC: If I understand this correctly, you can kill someone in a hit-and-run, book yourself in and out in minutes, get the original charge thrown out because of police indifference, and then use plea bargaining to serve no jail time. Good job, Florida! Now I know which state to visit the next time my bloodlust boils over. I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

Bloodlust? She was 17, and ergo probably a crappy driver. Most likely an accident...and she turned herself in, saving the police time and money hunting her down. And "family?" The victim was homeless.

/not that that justifies her death
//but there's no reason to throw away the key on a young person who was probably just driving carelessly....don't pretend YOU never drove stupidly when you were 17. You were just lucky enough to not hit any homeless people.

Wow so bail for murder must be at an all time low now. Good to know I guess...

skullkrusher: DslainteC: If I understand this correctly, you can kill someone in a hit-and-run, book yourself in and out in minutes, get the original charge thrown out because of police indifference, and then use plea bargaining to serve no jail time. Good job, Florida! Now I know which state to visit the next time my bloodlust boils over. I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

her family didn't care enough to make her not homeless so I am guessing they might issue a collective "meh".

Anyway, TFA says she could face 30 years in prison but it is likely she'll plea bargain down and serve no time. No mention that she was drunk or anything so her only real crime is leaving the scene of an accident... should she get Old Sparky for that?

Sure, why not? She "accidentally" killed someone with her vehicle and then figured it would be cool to just drive away, no problems right?

This is the kind of person we want to see back on the streets...am I right or what?

skullkrusher: No mention that she was drunk or anything so her only real crime is leaving the scene of an accident... should she get Old Sparky for that?


If by Old Sparky, you mean little spike, why yes she should.

DslainteC: Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

Probably about the same as they felt about her homelessness.

DslainteC: Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Other articles say Tits McGhee hit the homeless woman while she was crossing the street. I can't find anything that says if it was at night or was the homeless woman in a crosswalk?

Remember this is Florida - Look at the news links on the right of this story and tell me that "Woman accused of battery with sex toy" didn't grab your attention.

Headso: Is hitting a homeless person even illegal?

Where did you read that poor woman was farking homeless?

fenian-: DslainteC: Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

Probably about the same as they felt about her homelessness.

I had a friend who was homeless for a few months. He would sleep in his car behind a grocery store. None of us knew.

lehmac: Headso: Is hitting a homeless person even illegal?

Where did you read that poor woman was farking homeless?

uh.. the linked article...

sxacho: DslainteC: Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Yeah, who cares. Also, I'd hit it and run:

Boberto: skullkrusher: DslainteC: If I understand this correctly, you can kill someone in a hit-and-run, book yourself in and out in minutes, get the original charge thrown out because of police indifference, and then use plea bargaining to serve no jail time. Good job, Florida! Now I know which state to visit the next time my bloodlust boils over. I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

her family didn't care enough to make her not homeless so I am guessing they might issue a collective "meh".

Anyway, TFA says she could face 30 years in prison but it is likely she'll plea bargain down and serve no time. No mention that she was drunk or anything so her only real crime is leaving the scene of an accident... should she get Old Sparky for that?

Sure, why not? She "accidentally" killed someone with her vehicle and then figured it would be cool to just drive away, no problems right?

This is the kind of person we want to see back on the streets...am I right or what?

I am gonna guess that she hit someone, is a kid so freaked the fark out. Mommy and daddy got her lawyered up and then she turned herself in. Doesn't deserve to die for that, no.

Boberto: skullkrusher: DslainteC: If I understand this correctly, you can kill someone in a hit-and-run, book yourself in and out in minutes, get the original charge thrown out because of police indifference, and then use plea bargaining to serve no jail time. Good job, Florida! Now I know which state to visit the next time my bloodlust boils over. I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

her family didn't care enough to make her not homeless so I am guessing they might issue a collective "meh".

Anyway, TFA says she could face 30 years in prison but it is likely she'll plea bargain down and serve no time. No mention that she was drunk or anything so her only real crime is leaving the scene of an accident... should she get Old Sparky for that?

Sure, why not? She "accidentally" killed someone with her vehicle and then figured it would be cool to just drive away, no problems right?

This is the kind of person we want to see back on the streets...am I right or what?

Good lord, are you seriously implying that she killed the homeless woman intentionally? Because you owe us all a big CITATION on that one. Nowhere in TFA does it say this was intentional. And yeah, she drove away, but what would you do if you were 17 and hit someone? Freak out, that's what. She didn't have the presence of mind at the time to do what those of us who are older than 17 would have done at the time. Which is exactly why she turned herself in later when she calmed down.

She gave me wood. She's sexually harassing me.

Having lived in DC and knowing what its like to have crack addicts dart in and out of the road and all random hours of the day, I can sympathize for the girl.... That said, her parents should have taught her that if you get in an accident you have to stay there and call the police. But kids being kids, and fearing trouble I can see why she fled the scene.

//Poor Kid
//Not accusing the Homeless woman of being a drug addict

Florida tag trumps followup? Maybe..

sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

HMS_Blinkin: Boberto: skullkrusher: DslainteC: If I understand this correctly, you can kill someone in a hit-and-run, book yourself in and out in minutes, get the original charge thrown out because of police indifference, and then use plea bargaining to serve no jail time. Good job, Florida! Now I know which state to visit the next time my bloodlust boils over. I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

her family didn't care enough to make her not homeless so I am guessing they might issue a collective "meh".

Anyway, TFA says she could face 30 years in prison but it is likely she'll plea bargain down and serve no time. No mention that she was drunk or anything so her only real crime is leaving the scene of an accident... should she get Old Sparky for that?

Sure, why not? She "accidentally" killed someone with her vehicle and then figured it would be cool to just drive away, no problems right?

This is the kind of person we want to see back on the streets...am I right or what?

Good lord, are you seriously implying that she killed the homeless woman intentionally? Because you owe us all a big CITATION on that one. Nowhere in TFA does it say this was intentional. And yeah, she drove away, but what would you do if you were 17 and hit someone? Freak out, that's what. She didn't have the presence of mind at the time to do what those of us who are older than 17 would have done at the time. Which is exactly why she turned herself in later when she calmed down.

well she did turn herself in 3 months after it happened.
But whatever, the kid does not deserve to go to prison for an accident.

HMS_Blinkin: Bloodlust? She was 17, and ergo probably a crappy driver. Most likely an accident...and she turned herself in, saving the police time and money hunting her down. And "family?" The victim was homeless.

You haven't been following this story. It took the police two months of work to pin the crime on her enough to justify arresting her, even though everyone in town knew she did it. She refused to talk to police, despite having the wrecked car in her driveway.

I like the comments in TFA that say "let her free, it's not like she killed an animal or something, it was just a homeless person."

anyone flipping out about this is an idiot...she got booked in 20 minutes, that doesn't mean she got acquitted, that means they processed her bullshiat paperwork in 20 minutes. if you even browsed the article youd see that she faces up to 30 years because she is being charged as an adult. which sucks cuz if someone over 18 slept with her that would be different, she'd be considered an infant.

Joelogon: I don't use the Self-Arrest lane because it doesn't really save you any time, and I hate doing my own handcuffing.



you magnificent bastard

DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

This girl should sing the National Anthem at the Orange Bowl this year I say.

skullkrusher: But whatever, the kid does not deserve to go to prison for an accident.

For the accident? No. For killing someone and then driving away without reporting the accident? Yes.

DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Now you've got it.

Headso: lehmac: Headso: Is hitting a homeless person even illegal?

Where did you read that poor woman was farking homeless?

uh.. the linked article...

I just found it next to the little coonts picture. I didnt see it in the body of the article so thats why i asked smartie fartie

So, I don't care one way or another if she pleas herself down to no time served, but who wants to bet she still has a license after all this?

I mean, can we at least keep her off the road a while?

Nevermind, the homeless woman was hit while she was jaywalking at night, which in my mind means she Darwin'd herself.

Hey, has anyone mentioned how she's hot and not of age?

Just wanted to slip that in.

Making sure we're all kept abreast of the situation.

/Penal system

lehmac: Headso: Is hitting a homeless person even illegal?

Where did you read that poor woman was farking homeless?

I was wondering that myself. It isn't mentioned in the article.

DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

dstanley: 4-11 and 97 pounds, about 20 of which is in her bra.


FAP
Good thing mom's back there to catch my spray.

Did she drive home?

Joseph Hazelwood approves!

MonkeyAngst: lehmac: Headso: Is hitting a homeless person even illegal?

Where did you read that poor woman was farking homeless?

I was wondering that myself. It isn't mentioned in the article.

Oh, wait. There it is, in the photo caption. That's some fine copy editing, there, Lou.

I feel a twinge of fear when I look at this picture.

/Hot like magma

dstanley: Other articles say Tits McGhee hit the homeless woman while she was crossing the street.

Why was she crossing the street in her car? You're supposed to drive parallel to the sides of the road.

MonkeyAngst: Where did you read that poor woman was farking homeless?

I was wondering that myself. It isn't mentioned in the article

Try THE FIRST SENTENCE.

lehmac: Headso: lehmac: Headso: Is hitting a homeless person even illegal?

Where did you read that poor woman was farking homeless?

uh.. the linked article...

I just found it next to the little coonts picture. I didnt see it in the body of the article so thats why i asked smartie fartie

Hey! it's fartie smartie asshole!

dstanley: 4-11 and 97 pounds, about 20 of which is in her bra.

She was probably violating the "Must be sitting on phone book" provision of her license.

So if she would have stopped, called the cops and said, "Hey, this dumb biatch was jaywalking at night in front of me and I hit her," she'd be off scot-free?

fenian-: MonkeyAngst: Where did you read that poor woman was farking homeless?

I was wondering that myself. It isn't mentioned in the article

Try THE FIRST SENTENCE.

Ok. Sorry. No, not mentioned. It's in the photo caption.

wyrlss: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

To be honest, its pretty f*cking hard to be homeless in the land of opportunity.

I say eye for an eye
Have a homeless person get behind the wheel of a car and hit the snot nosed little butter faced beyatch.

even farking stevens

NEXT

Antidamascus: Hey, has anyone mentioned how she's hot and not of age?

Just wanted to slip that in.

Making sure we're all kept abreast of the situation.

/Penal system

17 is legal age in a lot of states.

/just, not mine
//f*ck it, I'd hit it

Headso: lehmac: Headso: lehmac: Headso: Is hitting a homeless person even illegal?

Where did you read that poor woman was farking homeless?

uh.. the linked article...

I just found it next to the little coonts picture. I didnt see it in the body of the article so thats why i asked smartie fartie

Hey! it's fartie smartie asshole!

Ok, Fartie Smartie Asshole. Ill never forget to leave that asshole part out again! Seriously, my bad dude.

dstanley: So if she would have stopped, called the cops and said, "Hey, this dumb biatch was jaywalking at night in front of me and I hit her," she'd be off scot-free?

Perhaps... it's not like the victim's going to do much testifying.

bubbaprog: HMS_Blinkin: Bloodlust? She was 17, and ergo probably a crappy driver. Most likely an accident...and she turned herself in, saving the police time and money hunting her down. And "family?" The victim was homeless.

You haven't been following this story. It took the police two months of work to pin the crime on her enough to justify arresting her, even though everyone in town knew she did it. She refused to talk to police, despite having the wrecked car in her driveway.

I like the comments in TFA that say "let her free, it's not like she killed an animal or something, it was just a homeless person."

In that case, I can see the other side to this. I hadn't known the timeline behind this. I STILL don't think she deserves the death penalty, but a solid jail sentence might be in order. I hadn't realized she'd spent three months trying to weasel out of it; I thought she had just turned herself in the next morning.

bubbaprog: skullkrusher: But whatever, the kid does not deserve to go to prison for an accident.

For the accident? No. For killing someone and then driving away without reporting the accident? Yes.

however she is 17 years old. Facing 30 years in prison? C'mon. I am as much of a tough on crime guy as the next but seriously?

Boberto

This is the kind of person we want to see back on the streets...

..bent over the handle bar of her bicycle, wearing a low-cut shirt.

lehmac: Headso: lehmac: Headso: lehmac: Headso: Is hitting a homeless person even illegal?

Where did you read that poor woman was farking homeless?

uh.. the linked article...

I just found it next to the little coonts picture. I didnt see it in the body of the article so thats why i asked smartie fartie

Hey! it's fartie smartie asshole!

Ok, Fartie Smartie Asshole. Ill never forget to leave that asshole part out again! Seriously, my bad dude.

If you'd like to go to that level of formality be my guest, usually only my butler does that.

HMS_Blinkin: Boberto: skullkrusher: DslainteC: If I understand this correctly, you can kill someone in a hit-and-run, book yourself in and out in minutes, get the original charge thrown out because of police indifference, and then use plea bargaining to serve no jail time. Good job, Florida! Now I know which state to visit the next time my bloodlust boils over. I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

her family didn't care enough to make her not homeless so I am guessing they might issue a collective "meh".

Anyway, TFA says she could face 30 years in prison but it is likely she'll plea bargain down and serve no time. No mention that she was drunk or anything so her only real crime is leaving the scene of an accident... should she get Old Sparky for that?

Sure, why not? She "accidentally" killed someone with her vehicle and then figured it would be cool to just drive away, no problems right?

This is the kind of person we want to see back on the streets...am I right or what?

Good lord, are you seriously implying that she killed the homeless woman intentionally? Because you owe us all a big CITATION on that one. Nowhere in TFA does it say this was intentional. And yeah, she drove away, but what would you do if you were 17 and hit someone? Freak out, that's what. She didn't have the presence of mind at the time to do what those of us who are older than 17 would have done at the time. Which is exactly why she turned herself in later when she calmed down.

Driving carelessly is intentional, yes. You can't drive like a farking idiot unless you let your foot slam the peddle, your eyes wander while you change the iPod, txt your bff Jill. Sure it was an "accident" in the sense that she obviously didn't want to kill someone but clearly her actions, while driving, resulted in the death of an innocent person.
She's guilty of being a moran. Who's moranic actions led to the death of another human being. I never said she did it intentionally - if that was the case I'd just be making jokes about it.

ANECDOTE: driving in Nova Scotia in the summer of 2006 with a friend. He was not paying attention and he made a right hand turn at the bottom of a hill only to have a biker slam into the side of his car, flip over the roof, land and break his leg. We stopped - I was 19, he was 20. We got out and made sure the guy was alive, it was totally my buddies fault and he admitted it directly (to the victim, and police later) while I called 911 to report it.....

That is what people who aren't total farking idiots do. Can you actually sit there and try and defend snowflake's actions as "the right thing to do" because she's 17?

skullkrusher: bubbaprog: skullkrusher: But whatever, the kid does not deserve to go to prison for an accident.

For the accident? No. For killing someone and then driving away without reporting the accident? Yes.

however she is 17 years old. Facing 30 years in prison? C'mon. I am as much of a tough on crime guy as the next but seriously?

How many people do you personally know that killed another human being and hid from the cops for three months?

FTA:
"Athan said it only works in cases were a reasonable bail has been set."

FTBoR:
"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."


So... all cases?

lehmac: I say eye for an eye
Have a homeless person get behind the wheel of a car and hit the snot nosed little butter faced beyatch.

even farking stevens

NEXT

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

/And then who would develop our videogames?
//fear! buy! consume!

fappable > homeless

Headso: lehmac: Headso: lehmac: Headso: lehmac: Headso: Is hitting a homeless person even illegal?

Where did you read that poor woman was farking homeless?

uh.. the linked article...

I just found it next to the little coonts picture. I didnt see it in the body of the article so thats why i asked smartie fartie

Hey! it's fartie smartie asshole!

Ok, Fartie Smartie Asshole. Ill never forget to leave that asshole part out again! Seriously, my bad dude.

If you'd like to go to that level of formality be my guest, usually only my butler does that.

ha ha ha ha!! :)

Even young drivers should know if you hit a homeless person, You dig the hole.

wyrlss: skullkrusher: bubbaprog: skullkrusher: But whatever, the kid does not deserve to go to prison for an accident.

For the accident? No. For killing someone and then driving away without reporting the accident? Yes.

however she is 17 years old. Facing 30 years in prison? C'mon. I am as much of a tough on crime guy as the next but seriously?

How many people do you personally know that killed another human being and hid from the cops for three months?

I'm still on the lamb

The Voice of Doom: Boberto

This is the kind of person we want to see back on the streets...

..bent over the handle bar of her bicycle, wearing a low-cut shirt.

preferably in a Catholic school skirt and knee-high white stockings.

/I am so going to heck for that

id hit that and run.

seriously though, teenagers should not be allowed to drive in or around a 50 mile radius of Hillsborough county, id be the first to turn my own license in if it meant putting a stop to all this bull. kids here are just too irresponsible to drive.

OneFretAway: The Voice of Doom: Boberto

This is the kind of person we want to see back on the streets...

..bent over the handle bar of her bicycle, wearing a low-cut shirt.

preferably in a Catholic school skirt and knee-high white stockings.

/I am so going to heck for that

Nevermind having impure thoughts about a minor, you wouldn't wanna spell "hell" and possibly rot there...

when they come up with a self punishment lane, call me.

AtomicBurrito: id hit that and run.

seriously though, teenagers should not be allowed to drive in or around a 50 mile radius of Hillsborough county, id be the first to turn my own license in if it meant putting a stop to all this bull. kids here are just too irresponsible to drive.

So long as she carpools with me, I'm okay with this.

Apparently farkers aren't the only ones that want blood.

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OneFretAway: The Voice of Doom: Boberto

This is the kind of person we want to see back on the streets...

..bent over the handle bar of her bicycle, wearing a low-cut shirt.

preferably in a Catholic school skirt and knee-high white stockings.

/I am so going to heck for that

Do go on....

skullkrusher: wyrlss: skullkrusher: bubbaprog: skullkrusher: But whatever, the kid does not deserve to go to prison for an accident.

For the accident? No. For killing someone and then driving away without reporting the accident? Yes.

however she is 17 years old. Facing 30 years in prison? C'mon. I am as much of a tough on crime guy as the next but seriously?

How many people do you personally know that killed another human being and hid from the cops for three months?

I'm still on the lamb

Ewe...

skullkrusher: I'm still on the lamb

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Nobody wants to hear about your sex life.

Boberto: HMS_Blinkin: Boberto: skullkrusher: DslainteC:

ANECDOTE: driving in Nova Scotia in the summer of 2006 with a friend. He was not paying attention and he made a right hand turn at the bottom of a hill only to have a biker slam into the side of his car, flip over the roof, land and break his leg. We stopped - I was 19, he was 20. We got out and made sure the guy was alive, it was totally my buddies fault and he admitted it directly (to the victim, and police later) while I called 911 to report it.....

That is what people who aren't total farking idiots do. Can you actually sit there and try and defend snowflake's actions as "the right thing to do" because she's 17?

You never admit fault on an Accidient... NEVER. You can tell the truth and allow the police to accest it, but you never said. Opps I farked up.

DemoKnite

As long as you have the money and are not a minority you should be good to go. Happy bloodlusting!

Two words, same state. Donte Stallworth. 24 days out of 30 behind bars.

If I were him I would appeal using this young lady as an example.

Jesus Criminals! I'll go ahead and have a seat over there before I go to book myself... I'd utterly destroy that. The deity of your choice would envy the force with which I'd hit it.

Not so far fetched now....

It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

hugheric: Even young drivers should know if you hit a homeless person, You dig the hole.

Sorry but the law of the streets dictate that a dead homeless person must be picked clean by their brethren before their body can be disposed of. She was only honoring their creed.

Anyone old enough to take a life is old enough to consent. She no longer has jail time attached to her nether region. Get in line.

GodsTumor: The GOP answer to the 47 million Americans without health care...



The GOP Health Care MachineTM

Considering that number is a lie, and it's really closer to 10 million people who don't have it at all and can't get it. You can STFU.

skullkrusher: wyrlss: skullkrusher: bubbaprog: skullkrusher: But whatever, the kid does not deserve to go to prison for an accident.

For the accident? No. For killing someone and then driving away without reporting the accident? Yes.

however she is 17 years old. Facing 30 years in prison? C'mon. I am as much of a tough on crime guy as the next but seriously?

How many people do you personally know that killed another human being and hid from the cops for three months?

I'm still on the lam

All kidding aside, people who have killed other people do actually need to understand that's not acceptable behavior. I'm not saying juice her up, but she doesn't need to be with normal decent people giving them the impression that it's okay to run over someone because they have less money, and she doesn't need to feel like it's okay either.
Of course, I never killed anyone, so I may be talking out my ass here. Anyone who's ever killed someone could probably give us a better perspective on whether or not people should be punished for killing other people.

sxacho: DslainteC: Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Homeless does not mean without family.

If I remember the original article right, it was dark and she was driving down a poorly lit area when the homeless woman crossed in front of her. She was not in a crosswalk or even a streetlight.


The girl should have stopped or should have turned herself in long before that, but I can understand.

Darth Mewling:


The GOP Health Care MachineTM

Considering that number is a lie, and it's really closer to 10 million people who don't have it at all and can't get it. You can STFU.

Yes, because Rush says so...

mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

I'm married, I have an excuse.

mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

Hey, gimme a break, I'm married!

Boberto: HMS_Blinkin: Boberto: skullkrusher: DslainteC: If I understand this correctly, you can kill someone in a hit-and-run, book yourself in and out in minutes, get the original charge thrown out because of police indifference, and then use plea bargaining to serve no jail time. Good job, Florida! Now I know which state to visit the next time my bloodlust boils over. I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

her family didn't care enough to make her not homeless so I am guessing they might issue a collective "meh".

Anyway, TFA says she could face 30 years in prison but it is likely she'll plea bargain down and serve no time. No mention that she was drunk or anything so her only real crime is leaving the scene of an accident... should she get Old Sparky for that?

Sure, why not? She "accidentally" killed someone with her vehicle and then figured it would be cool to just drive away, no problems right?

This is the kind of person we want to see back on the streets...am I right or what?

Good lord, are you seriously implying that she killed the homeless woman intentionally? Because you owe us all a big CITATION on that one. Nowhere in TFA does it say this was intentional. And yeah, she drove away, but what would you do if you were 17 and hit someone? Freak out, that's what. She didn't have the presence of mind at the time to do what those of us who are older than 17 would have done at the time. Which is exactly why she turned herself in later when she calmed down.

Driving carelessly is intentional, yes. You can't drive like a farking idiot unless you let your foot slam the peddle, your eyes wander while you change the iPod, txt your bff Jill. Sure it was an "accident" in the sense that she obviously didn't want to kill someone but clearly her actions, while driving, resulted in the death of an innocent person.
She's guilty of being a moran. Who's moranic actions led to the death of another human being. I never said she did it intentionally - if that was the case I'd just be making jokes about it.

ANECDOTE: driving in Nova Scotia in the summer of 2006 with a friend. He was not paying attention and he made a right hand turn at the bottom of a hill only to have a biker slam into the side of his car, flip over the roof, land and break his leg. We stopped - I was 19, he was 20. We got out and made sure the guy was alive, it was totally my buddies fault and he admitted it directly (to the victim, and police later) while I called 911 to report it.....

That is what people who aren't total farking idiots do. Can you actually sit there and try and defend snowflake's actions as "the right thing to do" because she's 17?


That's fine if you're 20 years old with no assets. If you're worth anything monetarily, probably not such a good idea to go around beating your chest and screaming mea culpa. Not unless you want to get taken to the cleaners in the civil suit.

Has anyone else noticed that she looks like a young(er) version of Casey Anthony? Has Nancy Grace been informed?

/hot for tot mom

sabyJeBus: anyone flipping out about this is an idiot...she got booked in 20 minutes, that doesn't mean she got acquitted, that means they processed her bullshiat paperwork in 20 minutes. if you even browsed the article youd see that she faces up to 30 years because she is being charged as an adult. which sucks cuz if someone over 18 slept with her that would be different, she'd be considered an infant.

And the rest of the article explains that she'll probably never see a day of prison because of the plea bargain her lawyer's working out with prosecutors. Even her ticket was tossed out.

Remember, kids, just run down the homeless - they're cheap, easy, nobody cares about them, and you'll get off with probation.

*hi-five with Darth Mewling*

"Valdez could face up to 30 years in prison."


30 YEARS?!?!?!

That's a hell of a lot of time for running over a wire-haired man monkey

I'm wondering whether she felt that it was safe to stop in the first place? If it's the type of neighborhood where homeless people are walking in the middle of the street, is it really a good neighborhood for an upper-middle-class white girl to stop and get out of her car?

The Voice of Doom: Boberto

This is the kind of person we want to see back on the streets...

..bent over the handle bar of her bicycle, wearing a low-cut shirt.

HAHAHAHA... I'm all chuckles over here. Thanks dude!

wyrlss: skullkrusher: wyrlss: skullkrusher: bubbaprog: skullkrusher: But whatever, the kid does not deserve to go to prison for an accident.

For the accident? No. For killing someone and then driving away without reporting the accident? Yes.

however she is 17 years old. Facing 30 years in prison? C'mon. I am as much of a tough on crime guy as the next but seriously?

How many people do you personally know that killed another human being and hid from the cops for three months?

I'm still on the lam

All kidding aside, people who have killed other people do actually need to understand that's not acceptable behavior. I'm not saying juice her up, but she doesn't need to be with normal decent people giving them the impression that it's okay to run over someone because they have less money, and she doesn't need to feel like it's okay either.
Of course, I never killed anyone, so I may be talking out my ass here. Anyone who's ever killed someone could probably give us a better perspective on whether or not people should be punished for killing other people.

yeah, I think the fact that she's been arrested and will get some sort of punishment will let everyone know that killing someone isn't acceptable in case they missed that memo. The relative wealth of the parties really has nothing to do with what happened. It was an accident. Sure it's possible that the police didnt try too hard to close the case because of who the victim was but that has nothing to do with this girl's actions.

/call me mint jelly

Ruby'sMamma: sxacho: DslainteC: Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Homeless does not mean without family.

Next you're going to tell me that fat people have feelings too?

fwiw, her left breast is much larger than her right.

GodsTumor: Darth Mewling:


The GOP Health Care MachineTM

Considering that number is a lie, and it's really closer to 10 million people who don't have it at all and can't get it. You can STFU.

Yes, because Rush says so...

No because this (new window) (new window) says so. You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

To be fair, your mom did try the lube, but she's still as dry as a cactus.

chrisr64: DemoKnite

As long as you have the money and are not a minority you should be good to go. Happy bloodlusting!

Two words, same state. Donte Stallworth. 24 days out of 30 behind bars.

If I were him I would appeal using this young lady as an example.

he was convicted of DUI manslaughter. Quite a bit different.

I meant this!

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/business/04view.html?_r=1&ref=business

Ack_Ack: fwiw, her left breast is much larger than her right.

bad stuffing

Boberto: HMS_Blinkin: Boberto: skullkrusher: DslainteC:

Sure, why not? She "accidentally" killed someone with her vehicle and then figured it would be cool to just drive away, no problems right?

This is the kind of person we want to see back on the streets...am I right or what?

Good lord, are you seriously implying that she killed the homeless woman intentionally? Because you owe us all a big CITATION on that one. Nowhere in TFA does it say this was intentional. And yeah, she drove away, but what would you do if you were 17 and hit someone? Freak out, that's what. She didn't have the presence of mind at the time to do what those of us who are older than 17 would have done at the time. Which is exactly why she turned herself in later when she calmed down.

Driving carelessly is intentional, yes. You can't drive like a farking idiot unless you let your foot slam the peddle, your eyes wander while you change the iPod, txt your bff Jill. Sure it was an "accident" in the sense that she obviously didn't want to kill someone but clearly her actions, while driving, resulted in the death of an innocent person.
She's guilty of being a moran. Who's moranic actions led to the death of another human being. I never said she did it intentionally - if that was the case I'd just be making jokes about it.

ANECDOTE: driving in Nova Scotia in the summer of 2006 with a friend. He was not paying attention and he made a right hand turn at the bottom of a hill only to have a biker slam into the side of his car, flip over the roof, land and break his leg. We stopped - I was 19, he was 20. We got out and made sure the guy was alive, it was totally my buddies fault and he admitted it directly (to the victim, and police later) while I called 911 to report it.....

That is what people who aren't total farking idiots do. Can you actually sit there and try and defend snowflake's actions as "the right thing to do" because she's 17?

I want to revoke any anger/hostility towards HMS Blinkin. Just read he was unaware of the timeline.. should have given linkies to you! Sorry.

Mephistopheles' Revenge: Apparently farkers aren't the only ones that want blood.

Link (new window)
I counted two comments. One from the victim's family.
Were there any more? I'd say fappy Fark justice is winning in a, a ... something that looks like a dripping face full.

wyrlss: All kidding aside, people who have killed other people do actually need to understand that's not acceptable behavior. I'm not saying juice her up, but she doesn't need to be with normal decent people giving them the impression that it's okay to run over someone because they have less money, and she doesn't need to feel like it's okay either.
Of course, I never killed anyone, so I may be talking out my ass here. Anyone who's ever killed someone could probably give us a better perspective on whether or not people should be punished for killing other people.

The first couple of times you do tend to feel a tinge of remorse and believe that you should be punished. I know that I used to force myself to watch Angela's Ashes.

After awhile you realize that they deserved what they got and you were actually doing society a favor. I'm sure that varies from person to person - for me it was right around a dozen - but reaching this state certainly makes you more efficient the next time around. There also tends to be less time in between events.

Deacon Blue:

That's fine if you're 20 years old with no assets. If you're worth anything monetarily, probably not such a good idea to go around beating your chest

Dude, I think it is perfectly clear that her chest = assets.

If that had been a car built before 1985 I bet there wouldn't have been any damage at all.

skullkrusher: bubbaprog: skullkrusher: But whatever, the kid does not deserve to go to prison for an accident.

For the accident? No. For killing someone and then driving away without reporting the accident? Yes.

however she is 17 years old. Facing 30 years in prison? C'mon. I am as much of a tough on crime guy as the next but seriously?

Yeah she has not even had the chance to fark up some young guy's life yet.

Ack_Ack: fwiw, her left breast is much larger than her right.

Could be a personal air bag deployment.

mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

We can't all be Scout leaders..

Wow, a body like that AND can squint like Clint?

I'm there.

Mephistopheles' Revenge: Apparently farkers aren't the only ones that want blood.

Link (new window)

That blog really makes me want to post a comment to "Taylor" who was a family member of the homeless woman. Apparently she is upset now, but had the family taken care of this woman, she would not have been on the street...and jaywalking.

So who's fault is it really??

Didn't mommy and daddy ever teach you to LOOK BOTH FARKING WAYS BEFORE YOU CROSS THE STREET. Bums, get out of the road. You are not a car, you can't even drive.

Cars don't come out of nowhere and they aren't exactly a small bag of peanuts.

In addition, I hate self-righteous pedestrians that get some kind of satisfaction from making you wait for them whilst taking their time. The kind of person that doesn't even look before crossing as they expect you to stop for them. "Look both ways? ME? I have the right of way!" No, pal, this 3000 pounds of fiberglass and steel begs to differ.

The only place you get mercy from me is the crosswalk, and you better make it quick. Don't got time for your games.

Boberto: HMS_Blinkin: Boberto: skullkrusher: DslainteC: If I understand this correctly, you can kill someone in a hit-and-run, book yourself in and out in minutes, get the original charge thrown out because of police indifference, and then use plea bargaining to serve no jail time. Good job, Florida! Now I know which state to visit the next time my bloodlust boils over. I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

her family didn't care enough to make her not homeless so I am guessing they might issue a collective "meh".

Anyway, TFA says she could face 30 years in prison but it is likely she'll plea bargain down and serve no time. No mention that she was drunk or anything so her only real crime is leaving the scene of an accident... should she get Old Sparky for that?

Sure, why not? She "accidentally" killed someone with her vehicle and then figured it would be cool to just drive away, no problems right?

This is the kind of person we want to see back on the streets...am I right or what?

Good lord, are you seriously implying that she killed the homeless woman intentionally? Because you owe us all a big CITATION on that one. Nowhere in TFA does it say this was intentional. And yeah, she drove away, but what would you do if you were 17 and hit someone? Freak out, that's what. She didn't have the presence of mind at the time to do what those of us who are older than 17 would have done at the time. Which is exactly why she turned herself in later when she calmed down.

Driving carelessly is intentional, yes. You can't drive like a farking idiot unless you let your foot slam the peddle, your eyes wander while you change the iPod, txt your bff Jill. Sure it was an "accident" in the sense that she obviously didn't want to kill someone but clearly her actions, while driving, resulted in the death of an innocent person.
She's guilty of being a moran. Who's moranic actions led to the death of another human being. I never said she did it intentionally - if that was the case I'd just be making jokes about it.

ANECDOTE: driving in Nova Scotia in the summer of 2006 with a friend. He was not paying attention and he made a right hand turn at the bottom of a hill only to have a biker slam into the side of his car, flip over the roof, land and break his leg. We stopped - I was 19, he was 20. We got out and made sure the guy was alive, it was totally my buddies fault and he admitted it directly (to the victim, and police later) while I called 911 to report it.....

That is what people who aren't total farking idiots do. Can you actually sit there and try and defend snowflake's actions as "the right thing to do" because she's 17?

When did I ever say it was the right thing to do? Go back through my post and show me where I wrote that. Because I didn't. I never said it was "right," it was wrong, but understandable. In a perfect world, she would have stopped and called 911 and waited for the cops to arrive. But she didn't. She freaked out in the heat of the moment, and kept driving, probably before she had time to realize what had happened. To me, I can understand not stopping immediately. It's wrong, and I hope to god that if I'm ever in that sort of situation I have the presence of mind to stop, but the situation is stressful and unexpected enough that I can understand her actions.

Where she farked up, and what I hadn't realized before, was that it took her three whole months to turn herself in. Even if she drove off in the heat of the moment, she should have gone to the police the next morning at the latest after she'd calmed down. Three months isn't cool.

Darth Mewling: GodsTumor: Darth Mewling:


The GOP Health Care MachineTM

Considering that number is a lie, and it's really closer to 10 million people who don't have it at all and can't get it. You can STFU.

Yes, because Rush says so...

No because this (new window) (new window) says so. You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

So than where do you get your info from?

Here's what the US census says...Link

Boberto: ANECDOTE: driving in Nova Scotia in the summer of 2006 with a friend. He was not paying attention and he made a right hand turn at the bottom of a hill only to have a biker slam into the side of his car, flip over the roof, land and break his leg. We stopped - I was 19, he was 20. We got out and made sure the guy was alive, it was totally my buddies fault and he admitted it directly (to the victim, and police later) while I called 911 to report it.....

In the United States, admitting anything is a good way to lose your income and your family's income for the rest of your life to some lawyers and "victim". So we don't do that down here. What your friend did would be incredibly stupid (aside from mis-managing his car).

Also, that road is one way, and has cars parked along it at all hours of the day, and the speed limit is fairly high.

How goddamn hard is it to look ONE WAY to look for cars who have their lights on in the dark? Or perhaps not jay walk? That was probably a suicide or someone stoned/drunk out of their mind.

Also, in some neighborhoods in the U.S., the smart thing is to drive away and tell the cops later so you don't get dragged out of your car and beaten to death for being a whitey. So driving away is barely a crime in some circumstances now.

That said, she avoided the issue for three months, which is just stupid. But still, that's just a stupid kid, not a hardened criminal. If you don't believe every single traffic violation and crime should be dealt with by a bullet in the head on the spot, then this case should be at the far far end of the "light sentencing" side. Sheesh, some of you folk really don't have any damn perspective outside a WoW clan do you?

I sentence her to 1 year of hard "labor" in my basement.

/"hard". Heh heh.

dstanley: Other articles say Tits McGhee hit the homeless woman while she was crossing the street. I can't find anything that says if it was at night or was the homeless woman in a crosswalk?

I've seen homeless people cross the street by jumping out from behind parked cars, so "crossing the street" could have many meanings

BTW - Nissan Muranos are designed for women who can't drive big trucks - and still can't.

cartersdad: Mephistopheles' Revenge: Apparently farkers aren't the only ones that want blood.

Link (new window)

That blog really makes me want to post a comment to "Taylor" who was a family member of the homeless woman. Apparently she is upset now, but had the family taken care of this woman, she would not have been on the street...and jaywalking.

So who's fault is it really??

The girl who killed the woman.

What do I win?

White people hate waiting.

/PROBATION is a given, who needs a court system

MadMonk: Wow, a body like that AND can squint like Clint?

I'm there.

So youre saying you would fark Clint Eastwood if he had better titts?

Sounds ok to me...

GodsTumor: So than where do you get your info from?

Here's what the US census says...Link

The census estimates the number of illegal aliens in the US and assumes, quite rightly, that they are uninsured.

/crawls back under bridge.

I have a homeless, heroin addicted uncle, and quite frankly I'd be relieved if someone ran over him. Do you think she's available for hire?

Linux_Perhaps:
mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

Hey, gimme a break, I'm married!

And I'm not married yet, so I'm getting it even more than he is!

/only not trolling because the "who cares about the homeless" card has already been played

Hmmm...so if I hit a homeless woman jaywalking I should check to make sure she's dead, and if she's not, back up and hit her again?

Got it, thanks.

Boberto: I want to revoke any anger/hostility towards HMS Blinkin. Just read he was unaware of the timeline.. should have given linkies to you! Sorry.

No, it's fine...I had just made some wrong assumptions about Miss Snowflake. Knowing the whole story (and reading some of the links posted in this thread) is making me feel a lot less lenient.

plez: Didn't mommy and daddy ever teach you to LOOK BOTH FARKING WAYS BEFORE YOU CROSS THE STREET

Yeah, but it seems nobody else's parents did.

Its fine as long as you dont have any produce, then you gotta sit there and flip through the book for the code and youre not sure if "red pepper" is gonna be under the 'R's or the 'P's...

Wait, wtf are we talking about?

/goes to read article...

I would totally hit that. I just thought you guys would like to know that about me.

The pic from yesterday's local coverage was much better....

Boberto: mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

We can't all be Scout leaders..

highendmighty:

The census estimates the number of illegal aliens in the US and assumes, quite rightly, that they are uninsured.

/crawls back under bridge.

I don't doubt that but we still pay for them all once they show up at the hospital. I know no ones numbers are exact but I think the US census numbers have to be the closest quess!

LeeOfTampa: The pic from yesterday's local coverage was much better....

ooh, naughty underaged librarian... let's get her convicted cuz there is a great naughty underaged librarian behind bars movie script in there somewherer.

*stares back*

Deacon Blue: Not unless you want to get taken to the cleaners in the civil suit.

Yeah, I suppose drawing the whole thing out would have been much more convenient for all those involved.. how many assets did this girl have? enough to make your point make sense? PS, car insurance covers the cost of that - 45 days and a $16,000 insurance payout later and the guy that got hit limped away on his crutches. That was his civil suit... The 20 year old had assets my friend www.jdavid.ca (Minas Realties). Of which he did not have to award a % to the guy he hit...again...his insurance covered it - if you had assets you would know about insurance.

I feel sorry for the Americans, can't do or say anything without a lawyer because anyone and everyone can and will take you to the cleaners.

Just curious... what civil suit would the biker in question (in my short anecdote) be able to bring that would award him any extra damages ontop of what was already given?

Is there nothing Meatloaf cannot fix?

I was going to post that the deceased was probably mostly at fault for the accident, the driver was a criminal dirtbag for running and then trying to cover it up, and that the fast lane booking was totally irrelevant and probably a good thing over all. But I couldn't think up a pithy punchline or anything to be outraged over, so forget I said anything.

Boberto: I was 19, he was 20. We got out and made sure the guy was alive, it was totally my buddies fault and he admitted it directly (to the victim, and police later) while I called 911 to report it.....

That is what people who aren't total farking idiots do. Can you actually sit there and try and defend snowflake's actions as "the right thing to do" because she's 17?

As the right thing to do? Fark no, but as something that might be understandable? Yeah. Here's a news flash for you: not everybody deals with farked up situations in the same way. Some people freak out and do stupid shiat. She turned herself in after calming down. It's not like she went and got her car repainted to try to cover up the crime. She panicked.

Darth Mewling: Considering that number is a lie, and it's really closer to 10 million people who don't have it at all and can't get it. You can STFU.

Do you believe everything Lou Dobbs tells you?

HMS_Blinkin: Boberto: I want to revoke any anger/hostility towards HMS Blinkin. Just read he was unaware of the timeline.. should have given linkies to you! Sorry.

No, it's fine...I had just made some wrong assumptions about Miss Snowflake. Knowing the whole story (and reading some of the links posted in this thread) is making me feel a lot less lenient.

Don't even worry about it. Threads are for arguing, getting more facts, changing previous thoughts, then a hand-shake and makeup (usually). This story was so skewed based on the sparse article.

Honestly though,

Let's do this again some time!

sxacho: Ruby'sMamma: sxacho: DslainteC: Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Homeless does not mean without family.

Next you're going to tell me that fat people have feelings too?

Yes. They do, but it takes longer to reach thier hearts...

wyrlss: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

Calm down. It's an old joke, noone is being serious.

she'll be in hustler before you know it

MindStalker: wyrlss: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

Calm down. It's an old joke, noone is being serious.

speak for yourself, libtard.

If I read correctly between the lines, I think she will skate free on this one.

She was charged with careless driving--the dick didn't show, so case dismissed.

She can't be tried again, so double jeopardy.

If she gets convicted she would win on appeal, most likely.

F*cking shame.

One is a useful member of society, the other is simply a drain on state resources.

mcsiegs: I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

Well, your mom is always busy, so we have to think of alternatives.

Ant: mcsiegs: I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

Well, your mom is always busy, so we have to think of alternatives.

I know. I was going to be his Dad, but the dog beat me over the fence.

Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

MindStalker: wyrlss: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

Calm down. It's an old joke, noone is being serious.

I know that specific joke, but the sentiment that homeless people don't deserve the protection of the law, that their lives lack value because they have less, is commonly expressed.

And this is coming from someone whose wife often chides him for lacking compassion.

FTA: Dee Ann Athan said she and other defense lawyers routinely have their clients use the program.

I wonder why?

Valdez was originally cited for careless driving, but the citation was dismissed when the detective who issued it failed to appear in court to testify.

Oh that's why. Don't give the officer a chance to show up on a possible manslaughter charge and everyone is in the clear.

dstanley: So if she would have stopped, called the cops and said, "Hey, this dumb biatch was jaywalking at night in front of me and I hit her," she'd be off scot-free?

Yes. It's not automatically a crime to hit someone or something with your car, if it's not your fault. People can "jump out" unexpectedly. Leaving the scene is the crime.

Also, it's not even automatic that leaving the scene is a crime if you can prove that you were unaware you hit something. A woman in a van scratched my mirror while I was stopped one day, and kept going. I followed her and got her license, but the cops wouldn't even get involved. They simply gave me her personal info and told me to contact my insurance company.

Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

olddinosaur: If I read correctly between the lines, I think she will skate free on this one.

She was charged with careless driving--the dick didn't show, so case dismissed.

She can't be tried again, so double jeopardy.

If she gets convicted she would win on appeal, most likely.

F*cking shame.

Thankfully, this is not correct. Jeopardy only attaches when the jury is sworn, so simply dropping an initial charge is of no importance constitutionally. She can certainly be tried and convicted.

/law-talking guy

Joelogon: I don't use the Self-Arrest lane because it doesn't really save you any time, and I hate doing my own handcuffing.

The self handcuffing is what's all about!

wyrlss: MindStalker: wyrlss: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

Calm down. It's an old joke, noone is being serious.

I know that specific joke, but the sentiment that homeless people don't deserve the protection of the law, that their lives lack value because they have less, is commonly expressed.

And this is coming from someone whose wife often chides him for lacking compassion.

I don't think anyone here is expressing that. Pretty much everyone I've ever spoken to are disgusted by those "Bum Fight" videos people put out.

What a waste all around.

KillerFuzz: Joelogon: I don't use the Self-Arrest lane because it doesn't really save you any time, and I hate doing my own handcuffing.

The self handcuffing is what's all about!

Just ask David Carradine

olddinosaur: She was charged with careless driving--the dick didn't show, so case dismissed.

She can't be tried again, so double jeopardy.

No - she was arrested and released on bail. Still faces charges in the case.

mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

You don't understand guys then. I can have just had sex for hours, see any girl who's average or better, and immediately start thinking about sex again.

skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

An editorial opinion, course of. :-P

Very sad for the victim and her family, but putting a 17-year-old girl in jail for driving like a teenager isn't going to fix anything. She hit someone by accident and freaked out, as many people would. So now you're going to put her in an adult prison for 30 years to... what? Teach her a lesson? What does that teach her, exactly? "Don't act like a teenager"? All you're doing is punishing her for something they didn't mean to do and making sure that she will not be able to do anything useful with her life afterward, none of which will bring the victim back to life nor make her family miss her any less (and yes, homeless people can have families).

wyrlss: American-

I don't think it's an American attitude. I think it's an internet attitude. Where's that Internet Tough Guy pic when I need it...

Wendy's Chili: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

An editorial opinion, course of. :-P

well it's op-ed and it's short for "opposite the editorial page" but anyway, I am curious to see this op-ed you're talking about. What Bush advisor wrote it and when?

Those puffy lips look just like my Fleshlight!

Gawdzila: Very sad for the victim and her family, but putting a 17-year-old girl in jail for driving like a teenager isn't going to fix anything. She hit someone by accident and freaked out, as many people would. So now you're going to put her in an adult prison for 30 years to... what? Teach her a lesson? What does that teach her, exactly? "Don't act like a teenager"? All you're doing is punishing her for something they didn't mean to do and making sure that she will not be able to do anything useful with her life afterward, none of which will bring the victim back to life nor make her family miss her any less (and yes, homeless people can have families).

+1
Take away her license til she's 21. Give her 200 hours community service in a homeless shelter and fine her. That's fair for leaving the scene of an accident, imo

They need a self-trial lane. You plead your case and others in the line give you a thumbs up or down.

skullkrusher: Take away her license til she's 21. Give her 200 hours community service in a homeless shelter and fine her. That's fair for leaving the scene of an accident, imo

Then, bathe her and bring her to me.

skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

An editorial opinion, course of. :-P

well it's op-ed and it's short for "opposite the editorial page" but anyway, I am curious to see this op-ed you're talking about. What Bush advisor wrote it and when?

The NYT link that Darth Mewling provided was written by N. Gregory Mankiw, the Chairman of President Bush's Council of Economic Advisors.

He also happens to be heavily influenced by Keynes, as are most of Obama's econ advisors, so I am not entirely sure what Wendy's Chili is getting at. Probably guilt by association.

DslainteC: If I understand this correctly, you can kill someone in a hit-and-run, book yourself in and out in minutes, get the original charge thrown out because of police indifference, and then use plea bargaining to serve no jail time. Good job, Florida! Now I know which state to visit the next time my bloodlust boils over. I could kill someone without consequence and be home in time for supper.

Can you imagine how the poor victim's family must feel about this farcical form of "justice"?

Probably about the same way they felt about leaving their family member homeless?

Boberto: Deacon Blue:

Just curious... what civil suit would the biker in question (in my short anecdote) be able to bring that would award him any extra damages ontop of what was already given?

Oh, my lord. Let me tell you a story how a guy, who badly cut me off in traffic and got hit in the back as a result at a speed of 15 mph (!!!) walked away with a 2inch paint scratch (!!!) on his back bumper and 45K of my insurance's money. Oh wait, I think that was the story.

/Thank got I had good insurance.
//Can only imagine, what would happen if he had any real injuries. The insurance would've dropped me and my parents would've probably lost their house..

Gawdzila: Very sad for the victim and her family, but putting a 17-year-old girl in jail for driving like a teenager isn't going to fix anything. She hit someone by accident and freaked out, as many people would. So now you're going to put her in an adult prison for 30 years to... what? Teach her a lesson? What does that teach her, exactly? "Don't act like a teenager"? All you're doing is punishing her for something they didn't mean to do and making sure that she will not be able to do anything useful with her life afterward, none of which will bring the victim back to life nor make her family miss her any less (and yes, homeless people can have families).

"Driving like a teenager" means killing people? So all teenagers should be allowed one free killing? You're farking retarded.

And while most people might freak out after killing someone, most people would not flee the scene and hope no one cathes them.

Also, it's possible that she fled for a reason, like being under the influence at the time, which would make her no better than any other hit-and-run DUI murderer. And before you make a retarded "she was just drunk driving like a teenager" excuse, if you don't know that drunk driving is illegal and potentially deadly by the age of 17, chances are you're never going to do anything good with your life anyway and should have the book thrown at you.

skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

It's the reverse of op-ed, or opinion (of the) editor or editorial. The same people that allow all sorts of screwy shiat make it to press.

There was another hit and run case in Tampa where a dance instructor killed two children and injured two more. She received three years of probation. I'm guessing Ms. Valdez's penalty will be similar.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

An editorial opinion, course of. :-P

well it's op-ed and it's short for "opposite the editorial page" but anyway, I am curious to see this op-ed you're talking about. What Bush advisor wrote it and when?

The NYT link that Darth Mewling provided was written by N. Gregory Mankiw, the Chairman of President Bush's Council of Economic Advisors.

He also happens to be heavily influenced by Keynes, as are most of Obama's econ advisors, so I am not entirely sure what Wendy's Chili is getting at. Probably guilt by association.

ah, I saw his (new window) links but they weren't actually links.
Can you repost? Wanna chiggity check it out.
Danke in advance

skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

An ed-op? It hardly matters, Bush has been invoked. Further debate, discussion, or argument is futile.

Durn it! I had a lovely post with about five or six NSFW pics of hot schoolgirls on bicycles, but then I had to take a break and go to my bunk and I didn't realize I hadn't hit post.

Now I've got to go find those again. Crud!

NanoHooker: Boberto: Deacon Blue:

Just curious... what civil suit would the biker in question (in my short anecdote) be able to bring that would award him any extra damages ontop of what was already given?

Oh, my lord. Let me tell you a story how a guy, who badly cut me off in traffic and got hit in the back as a result at a speed of 15 mph (!!!) walked away with a 2inch paint scratch (!!!) on his back bumper and 45K of my insurance's money. Oh wait, I think that was the story.


45k? What did you hit? A Ferarri? I think there's more to this story.

sparrow794: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

An ed-op? It hardly matters, Bush has been invoked. Further debate, discussion, or argument is futile.

yeah, 'tis kinda scary that anything relating to 8 years of an American presidency is dismissed out of hand like that.

The main problem with panicking and leaving the scene is, how do we know the victim would have died if she recieved immediate medical treatment?
That is why she should get some jail time. That woman could have been laying on the road bleeding out for a couple of hours.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

An editorial opinion, course of. :-P

well it's op-ed and it's short for "opposite the editorial page" but anyway, I am curious to see this op-ed you're talking about. What Bush advisor wrote it and when?

The NYT link that Darth Mewling provided was written by N. Gregory Mankiw, the Chairman of President Bush's Council of Economic Advisors.

He also happens to be heavily influenced by Keynes, as are most of Obama's econ advisors, so I am not entirely sure what Wendy's Chili is getting at. Probably guilt by association.

As I already quoted, dipshiat up there said, "You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it" and then cited an op-ed (or an ed-op, as I so dyslexically put it) written by someone from the Bush administration to back up his claim that he was above political influence and that the rest of us are idiots. But I must say, the fact that I have to explain all of this is strong evidence of the latter.

mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

morgantx: Durn it! I had a lovely post with about five or six NSFW pics of hot schoolgirls on bicycles, but then I had to take a break and go to my bunk and I didn't realize I hadn't hit post.

Now I've got to go find those again. Crud!


yeah, get on that.

slave2grind: mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

You farking tard.
THE BEYATCH HAS A BUTTER FACE

/yes i do feel better now
// Ill buy you a butter faced hooker if i never have to look at that ugly mother farker Estrada again dickbag.

Wendy's Chili: The_Six_Fingered_Man: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

An editorial opinion, course of. :-P

well it's op-ed and it's short for "opposite the editorial page" but anyway, I am curious to see this op-ed you're talking about. What Bush advisor wrote it and when?

The NYT link that Darth Mewling provided was written by N. Gregory Mankiw, the Chairman of President Bush's Council of Economic Advisors.

He also happens to be heavily influenced by Keynes, as are most of Obama's econ advisors, so I am not entirely sure what Wendy's Chili is getting at. Probably guilt by association.

As I already quoted, dipshiat up there said, "You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it" and then cited an op-ed (or an ed-op, as I so dyslexically put it) written by someone from the Bush administration to back up his claim that he was above political influence and that the rest of us are idiots. But I must say, the fact that I have to explain all of this is strong evidence of the latter.

Well, see, the problem with your statement is that this article is in the business section, not opinion. See, the New York Times categorizes their articles into neat little subsections so that educated readers can discern what should be considered reporting on facts and what should be considered opinion.

So go back, read the article, and tell me where this author (and respected economist who teaches at Harvard and has his PhD from MIT) is injecting opinion into the article and not backing his statements as fact.

If this were an op-ed, it would be in Opinion, with the tagline of Op-Ed Columnist. But since it's in business, we can probably safely assume that it is not an op-ed piece.

Wendy's Chili: The_Six_Fingered_Man: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: skullkrusher: Wendy's Chili: Darth Mewling: You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

You just cited an ed-op from Bush's economic advisor, you twit.

what's an ed-op?

An editorial opinion, course of. :-P

well it's op-ed and it's short for "opposite the editorial page" but anyway, I am curious to see this op-ed you're talking about. What Bush advisor wrote it and when?

The NYT link that Darth Mewling provided was written by N. Gregory Mankiw, the Chairman of President Bush's Council of Economic Advisors.

He also happens to be heavily influenced by Keynes, as are most of Obama's econ advisors, so I am not entirely sure what Wendy's Chili is getting at. Probably guilt by association.

As I already quoted, dipshiat up there said, "You see unlike your normal person with a 'D' or an 'R' next to their name I actually have evidence to back up my opinions. You just believe whatever some retard with a 'D' next to their name hands to you. You're brainwashed, period, don't even try to deny it" and then cited an op-ed (or an ed-op, as I so dyslexically put it) written by someone from the Bush administration to back up his claim that he was above political influence and that the rest of us are idiots. But I must say, the fact that I have to explain all of this is strong evidence of the latter.

but the writer isn't a politican. Quick wiki of him says that he went to Princeton undergrad and got his PhD in Econ from MIT and spent some time at Harvard Law. The fact that he's a Keynesian means he is slightly left of center as far as economists go. Partisan hack.

jafiwam: Boberto: ANECDOTE: driving in Nova Scotia in the summer of 2006 with a friend. He was not paying attention and he made a right hand turn at the bottom of a hill only to have a biker slam into the side of his car, flip over the roof, land and break his leg. We stopped - I was 19, he was 20. We got out and made sure the guy was alive, it was totally my buddies fault and he admitted it directly (to the victim, and police later) while I called 911 to report it.....

In the United States, admitting anything is a good way to lose your income and your family's income for the rest of your life to some lawyers and "victim". So we don't do that down here. What your friend did would be incredibly stupid (aside from mis-managing his car).

Also, that road is one way, and has cars parked along it at all hours of the day, and the speed limit is fairly high.

How goddamn hard is it to look ONE WAY to look for cars who have their lights on in the dark? Or perhaps not jay walk? That was probably a suicide or someone stoned/drunk out of their mind.

Also, in some neighborhoods in the U.S., the smart thing is to drive away and tell the cops later so you don't get dragged out of your car and beaten to death for being a whitey. So driving away is barely a crime in some circumstances now.

That said, she avoided the issue for three months, which is just stupid. But still, that's just a stupid kid, not a hardened criminal. If you don't believe every single traffic violation and crime should be dealt with by a bullet in the head on the spot, then this case should be at the far far end of the "light sentencing" side. Sheesh, some of you folk really don't have any damn perspective outside a WoW clan do you?

I sentence her to 1 year of hard "labor" in my basement.

/"hard". Heh heh.

That's the reason your country is so farked up. Read my post and you'll see it happened in Nova Scotia and he did admit to it LATER, to save the bullshiat court proceedings. Liability insurance on his vehicle had him covered, whether at fault, not at fault or no fault. It sucks that having no balls is given more respect than having a pair.

How would you feel if your girlfriend, daughter, brother, uncle, etc. got run over by "a stupid kid" who covered it up for 3 months because she was "scared"? Would you still have sympathy for her or is it the fact she hit a homeless person that makes you say she shouldn't get any level of book thrown at her?

dstanley: 4-11 and 97 pounds, about 20 of which is in her bra.

Damn.... this girl keeps getting hotter!

/if she only knew how to keep her mouth shut

The Drunk IT Guy: Those puffy lips look just like my Fleshlight!

Me and a friend came up with the idea of buying the black person skin tone fleshlight in the 'mouth' style and attaching a mustache to it. It would be like face-raping Cleveland from The Family Guy.

Seth would approve.

Ant: Boberto: I was 19, he was 20. We got out and made sure the guy was alive, it was totally my buddies fault and he admitted it directly (to the victim, and police later) while I called 911 to report it.....

That is what people who aren't total farking idiots do. Can you actually sit there and try and defend snowflake's actions as "the right thing to do" because she's 17?

As the right thing to do? Fark no, but as something that might be understandable? Yeah. Here's a news flash for you: not everybody deals with farked up situations in the same way. Some people freak out and do stupid shiat. She turned herself in after calming down. It's not like she went and got her car repainted to try to cover up the crime. She panicked.

3 months is a long period of time to just "cool off" wouldn't you agree?

Boberto: jafiwam: Boberto: ANECDOTE: driving in Nova Scotia in the summer of 2006 with a friend. He was not paying attention and he made a right hand turn at the bottom of a hill only to have a biker slam into the side of his car, flip over the roof, land and break his leg. We stopped - I was 19, he was 20. We got out and made sure the guy was alive, it was totally my buddies fault and he admitted it directly (to the victim, and police later) while I called 911 to report it.....

In the United States, admitting anything is a good way to lose your income and your family's income for the rest of your life to some lawyers and "victim". So we don't do that down here. What your friend did would be incredibly stupid (aside from mis-managing his car).

Also, that road is one way, and has cars parked along it at all hours of the day, and the speed limit is fairly high.

How goddamn hard is it to look ONE WAY to look for cars who have their lights on in the dark? Or perhaps not jay walk? That was probably a suicide or someone stoned/drunk out of their mind.

Also, in some neighborhoods in the U.S., the smart thing is to drive away and tell the cops later so you don't get dragged out of your car and beaten to death for being a whitey. So driving away is barely a crime in some circumstances now.

That said, she avoided the issue for three months, which is just stupid. But still, that's just a stupid kid, not a hardened criminal. If you don't believe every single traffic violation and crime should be dealt with by a bullet in the head on the spot, then this case should be at the far far end of the "light sentencing" side. Sheesh, some of you folk really don't have any damn perspective outside a WoW clan do you?

I sentence her to 1 year of hard "labor" in my basement.

/"hard". Heh heh.

That's the reason your country is so farked up. Read my post and you'll see it happened in Nova Scotia and he did admit to it LATER, to save the bullshiat court proceedings. Liability insurance on his vehicle had him covered, whether at fault, not at fault or no fault. It sucks that having no balls is given more respect than having a pair.

How would you feel if your girlfriend, daughter, brother, uncle, etc. got run over by "a stupid kid" who covered it up for 3 months because she was "scared"? Would you still have sympathy for her or is it the fact she hit a homeless person that makes you say she shouldn't get any level of book thrown at her?

the fact that none of us are related to the victim makes us more suited to talk about what punishment she should get since there are no emotions getting in the way. She definitely deserves punishment but her crime is still only leaving the scene of a fatality. She didn't cover anything up, either. She didn't get her car fixed.

Is it just me or does she have an Alyson Hannigan vibe goin' on there?

SpeedRacer0915: Is it just me or does she have an Alyson Hannigan vibe goin' on there?

I can see that.

/loved it when Willow went lesbo

Mephistopheles' Revenge: Apparently farkers aren't the only ones that want blood.

Link (new window)

From your link:

Anonymous said...
I'm siding with Jordan Valdez(the fine piece of ass that hit the old lady). She's smoking hot and should not have to spend the prime of her life in jail because some old lady couldn't live long enough for paramedics to arrive.

4:06 PM, July 10, 2009

/Farkin awesome

lehmac: slave2grind: mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

You farking tard.
THE BEYATCH HAS A BUTTER FACE

/yes i do feel better now
// Ill buy you a butter faced hooker if i never have to look at that ugly mother farker Estrada again dickbag.

first thing you made me think of.


oh and;

skullkrusher: Partisan hack.

I don't want to go off-topic here, but I went to the link when he posted it, saw few numbers in the section related to what he was asserting, closed the window. It was not useful for the purposes of supporting his argument. Just saying "Well they include these groups" and saying there are "millions" of them doesn't really give helpful information. The best I see is his "18 million" which is about %40 of the uninsured.
When a relevant article pops up later on Fark I look forward to seeing all of you there with facts and data.

mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

I don't know if you checked some of the pictures, but she ain't what I'd consider little, ifyaknowwhatimean.

Gawdzila: Very sad for the victim and her family, but putting a 17-year-old girl in jail for driving like a teenager isn't going to fix anything. She hit someone by accident and freaked out, as many people would.

Uh, when I was a teenager manslaughter was frowned upon. Not sure about now-a-days, but I would have been looking at some jail time. Fortunately, I drove like a responsible teenager and didn't hit people.

slave2grind: lehmac: slave2grind: mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

You farking tard.
THE BEYATCH HAS A BUTTER FACE

/yes i do feel better now
// Ill buy you a butter faced hooker if i never have to look at that ugly mother farker Estrada again dickbag.

first thing you made me think of.


oh and;

I have a pussay and a strong vomit feeling every time i see the farking Estrada.

NanoHooker: Boberto: Deacon Blue:

Just curious... what civil suit would the biker in question (in my short anecdote) be able to bring that would award him any extra damages ontop of what was already given?

Oh, my lord. Let me tell you a story how a guy, who badly cut me off in traffic and got hit in the back as a result at a speed of 15 mph (!!!) walked away with a 2inch paint scratch (!!!) on his back bumper and 45K of my insurance's money. Oh wait, I think that was the story.

/Thank got I had good insurance.
//Can only imagine, what would happen if he had any real injuries. The insurance would've dropped me and my parents would've probably lost their house..

You should check your insurance policy's contract... Don't think they can legally "drop" you right when you need the insurance payout... there is probably a clause against that. Yes, no doubt you may have lost your coverage from said company, but there are others. Also... How did the judge/police/insurance company even come to the conclusion that a paint scratch on a bumper was worth 45k? Or did he claim emotional damages too?

Sounds like you need a lawyer that is as good as your insurance company.

wyrlss: skullkrusher: Partisan hack.

I don't want to go off-topic here, but I went to the link when he posted it, saw few numbers in the section related to what he was asserting, closed the window. It was not useful for the purposes of supporting his argument. Just saying "Well they include these groups" and saying there are "millions" of them doesn't really give helpful information. The best I see is his "18 million" which is about %40 of the uninsured.
When a relevant article pops up later on Fark I look forward to seeing all of you there with facts and data.

could you repost the links? They aren't clickable for me for some reason.

Rezinball: Mephistopheles' Revenge: Apparently farkers aren't the only ones that want blood.

Link (new window)

From your link:

Anonymous said...
I'm siding with Jordan Valdez(the fine piece of ass that hit the old lady). She's smoking hot and should not have to spend the prime of her life in jail because some old lady couldn't live long enough for paramedics to arrive.

4:06 PM, July 10, 2009

/Farkin awesome

Yeah, it looks like Farkers have hit the comment section

cartersdad: Mephistopheles' Revenge: Apparently farkers aren't the only ones that want blood.

Link (new window)

That blog really makes me want to post a comment to "Taylor" who was a family member of the homeless woman. Apparently she is upset now, but had the family taken care of this woman, she would not have been on the street...and jaywalking.

So who's fault is it really??

I don't think the girl should get in trouble for hitting the jaywalker, but she SHOULD get in trouble for leaving. More so because there was a death involved.

But to blame the family of a victim of an accident??? That's low. If homeless, she was probably mentally ill. If she's mentally ill, she's gonna do whatever the fark she wants until she's killed or put into jail/instiutionalized for her actions. As we know, she was never put into jail (or maybe just not long enough).

lehmac: slave2grind: lehmac: slave2grind: mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

You farking tard.
THE BEYATCH HAS A BUTTER FACE

/yes i do feel better now
// Ill buy you a butter faced hooker if i never have to look at that ugly mother farker Estrada again dickbag.

first thing you made me think of.


oh and;

I have a pussay and a strong vomit feeling every time i see the farking Estrada.

Lighten up Frances

NCg8r: cartersdad: Mephistopheles' Revenge: Apparently farkers aren't the only ones that want blood.

Link (new window)

That blog really makes me want to post a comment to "Taylor" who was a family member of the homeless woman. Apparently she is upset now, but had the family taken care of this woman, she would not have been on the street...and jaywalking.

So who's fault is it really??

I don't think the girl should get in trouble for hitting the jaywalker, but she SHOULD get in trouble for leaving. More so because there was a death involved.

But to blame the family of a victim of an accident??? That's low. If homeless, she was probably mentally ill. If she's mentally ill, she's gonna do whatever the fark she wants until she's killed or put into jail/instiutionalized for her actions. As we know, she was never put into jail (or maybe just not long enough).

but if she's mentally ill and unable to make her own decisions, can't the family force her into treatment? Might be a state by state thing though

bucjeff: Smokin body. There, it had to be said. You are all thinking it. Oh to be 17 again.

If she can be charged as an adult, she can be humped as an adult.

skullkrusher: wyrlss: skullkrusher: Partisan hack.

I don't want to go off-topic here, but I went to the link when he posted it, saw few numbers in the section related to what he was asserting, closed the window. It was not useful for the purposes of supporting his argument. Just saying "Well they include these groups" and saying there are "millions" of them doesn't really give helpful information. The best I see is his "18 million" which is about %40 of the uninsured.
When a relevant article pops up later on Fark I look forward to seeing all of you there with facts and data.

could you repost the links? They aren't clickable for me for some reason.
Fark doesn't like it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/business/04view.html

wyrlss: skullkrusher: wyrlss: skullkrusher: Partisan hack.

I don't want to go off-topic here, but I went to the link when he posted it, saw few numbers in the section related to what he was asserting, closed the window. It was not useful for the purposes of supporting his argument. Just saying "Well they include these groups" and saying there are "millions" of them doesn't really give helpful information. The best I see is his "18 million" which is about %40 of the uninsured.
When a relevant article pops up later on Fark I look forward to seeing all of you there with facts and data.

could you repost the links? They aren't clickable for me for some reason.
Fark doesn't like it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/business/04view.html

much obliged, my good man

Boberto
3 months is a long period of time to just "cool off" wouldn't you agree?

Probably not if one of the first things her parents did was to call a lawyer for advice on how to proceed from then.

My guess is the lawyers told her and her parents to STFU, especially not to admit anything for the time being while letting the lawyers do the talking with police and prosecution.

Wendy's Chili: "Driving like a teenager" means killing people? So all teenagers should be allowed one free killing?

No, you know very well what I meant, and if you don't you're f**king brainless.
"Driving like a teenager" means driving carelessly. Drive by any high school or freshman dorm around school hours and you'll see any number of young drivers texting while driving, turning to talk to people in the back seat, and whatever other stupid bullshiat they do. Any of them could potentially hurt or kill someone while not paying attention, most of them just aren't unlucky enough to do so.


Wendy's Chili: And while most people might freak out after killing someone, most people would not flee the scene and hope no one cathes them.

Maybe, maybe not. Whether it is more or less I don't know, but probably a significant number do. People make bad decisions when they freak out, just like she did.
How many people do you suppose flee the scene after hitting someone and NOT killing them? I don't know, but I'd guess lots, and any of those people could have ended up like this with some bad luck. It's just that not too many of those sorts of stories make national news unless the victim dies (and most of those are just local news, too).


Wendy's Chili: Also, it's possible that she fled for a reason, like being under the influence at the time, which would make her no better than any other hit-and-run DUI murderer. And before you make a retarded "she was just drunk driving like a teenager" excuse

I wouldn't make that excuse, particularly because there is nothing to be excused.
This is nothing but wild and irrelevant speculation on your part.

NCg8r: cartersdad: Mephistopheles' Revenge: Apparently farkers aren't the only ones that want blood.

Link (new window)

That blog really makes me want to post a comment to "Taylor" who was a family member of the homeless woman. Apparently she is upset now, but had the family taken care of this woman, she would not have been on the street...and jaywalking.

So who's fault is it really??

I don't think the girl should get in trouble for hitting the jaywalker, but she SHOULD get in trouble for leaving. More so because there was a death involved.

But to blame the family of a victim of an accident??? That's low. If homeless, she was probably mentally ill. If she's mentally ill, she's gonna do whatever the fark she wants until she's killed or put into jail/instiutionalized for her actions. As we know, she was never put into jail (or maybe just not long enough).

I'm sorry, I may be completely misunderstanding you here, but are you saying that rather than blaming the girl for the death, or the family, we should blame the victim?

slave2grind: lehmac: slave2grind: lehmac: slave2grind: mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

You farking tard.
THE BEYATCH HAS A BUTTER FACE

/yes i do feel better now
// Ill buy you a butter faced hooker if i never have to look at that ugly mother farker Estrada again dickbag.

first thing you made me think of.


oh and;

I have a pussay and a strong vomit feeling every time i see the farking Estrada.

Lighten up Frances

No hooker for you then, virgin.

wyrlss: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

In San Francisco it means degenerate, drug addled scum bag.

I think one of your vagina fangs has a toothache.

lehmac: slave2grind: lehmac: slave2grind: mcsiegs: It's funny - any average little girl gets all you geeks hard. I pity your penises for the lack of wet holes to put it in.

You farking tard.
THE BEYATCH HAS A BUTTER FACE

/yes i do feel better now
// Ill buy you a butter faced hooker if i never have to look at that ugly mother farker Estrada again dickbag.

first thing you made me think of.


oh and;

I have a pussay and a strong vomit feeling every time i see the farking Estrada.

You had me at "I have a pussay"

Dear lehmac
I think one of your vagina fangs has a toothache.

FTFM

slave2grind: Dear lehmac
I think one of your vagina fangs has a toothache.

FTFM

LMFAO! Awesome

You beyatches have a good weekend! virgin ;p ha ha ha

Fairlane500: wyrlss: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

In San Francisco it means degenerate, drug addled scum bag.

Only 1 of every 3 homeless people are covered below...
From: Link (new window)

Who are homeless veterans?

The U. S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) says the nation's homeless veterans are mostly males (4 % are females). The vast majority are single, most come from poor, disadvantaged communities, 45% suffer from mental illness, and half have substance abuse problems. America's homeless veterans have served in World War II, Korean War, Cold War, Vietnam War, Grenada, Panama, Lebanon, Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan), Operation Iraqi Freedom, or the military's anti-drug cultivation efforts in South America. Forty-seven percent of homeless veterans served during the Vietnam Era. More than 67% served our country for at least three years and 33% were stationed in a war zone.

How many homeless veterans are there?

Although accurate numbers are impossible to come by -- no one keeps national records on homeless veterans -- the VA estimates that 131,000 veterans are homeless on any given night. And approximately twice that many experience homelessness over the course of a year. Conservatively, one out of every three homeless men who is sleeping in a doorway, alley or box in our cities and rural communities has put on a uniform and served this country. According to the National Survey of Homeless Assistance Providers and Clients (U.S. Interagency Council on Homelessness and the Urban Institute, 1999), veterans account for 23% of all homeless people in America.

trappedspirit: Uh, when I was a teenager manslaughter was frowned upon. Not sure about now-a-days, but I would have been looking at some jail time.

Of course manslaughter is "frowned upon". Duh. But it was an accident. An accident that occurred in the process of her acting like probably half the kids at her school. There is a good reason why teenagers have crappy insurance rates.

Note that I didn't say she shouldn't be punished, I just said that 30 years is excessive, and it serves no useful purpose to incarcerate her for that long. In the long run it probably makes things worse for all involved, in fact.

Gawdzila: trappedspirit: Uh, when I was a teenager manslaughter was frowned upon. Not sure about now-a-days, but I would have been looking at some jail time.

Of course manslaughter is "frowned upon". Duh. But it was an accident. An accident that occurred in the process of her acting like probably half the kids at her school. There is a good reason why teenagers have crappy insurance rates.

Note that I didn't say she shouldn't be punished, I just said that 30 years is excessive, and it serves no useful purpose to incarcerate her for that long. In the long run it probably makes things worse for all involved, in fact.

agreed. I still think a bunch of hours community service working in a homeless shelter or walking around my apartment topless would serve a much greater good than throwing her in jail

Boberto: homeless veterans

You leave Rambo out of this. He never would've gotten hit by a car.

wyrlss: NCg8r: cartersdad: Mephistopheles' Revenge: Apparently farkers aren't the only ones that want blood.

Link (new window)

That blog really makes me want to post a comment to "Taylor" who was a family member of the homeless woman. Apparently she is upset now, but had the family taken care of this woman, she would not have been on the street...and jaywalking.

So who's fault is it really??

I don't think the girl should get in trouble for hitting the jaywalker, but she SHOULD get in trouble for leaving. More so because there was a death involved.

But to blame the family of a victim of an accident??? That's low. If homeless, she was probably mentally ill. If she's mentally ill, she's gonna do whatever the fark she wants until she's killed or put into jail/instiutionalized for her actions. As we know, she was never put into jail (or maybe just not long enough).

I'm sorry, I may be completely misunderstanding you here, but are you saying that rather than blaming the girl for the death, or the family, we should blame the victim?

The fappable driver committed a crime as a result of the victim committing an unlawful act. Therefore, the victim should be blamed as none of this would have happened if the homeless lady were not committing the crime.

wyrlss: Boberto: homeless veterans

You leave Rambo out of this. He never would've gotten hit by a car.

hahaha, he would have jumped on the back of it, loaded the .50cal and just given her hell. that is standard now, right?

Fairlane500: wyrlss: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

In San Francisco it means degenerate, drug addled scum bag.

QFT. If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to look at the tops of the buildings if you want to see any beauty at all. The further you progress downward, the more prevelant the absolute filth. There are more lazy, crazy, drug-addled homeless in San Fran than there are pigeons there.

wyrlss: skullkrusher: Partisan hack.

I don't want to go off-topic here, but I went to the link when he posted it, saw few numbers in the section related to what he was asserting, closed the window. It was not useful for the purposes of supporting his argument. Just saying "Well they include these groups" and saying there are "millions" of them doesn't really give helpful information. The best I see is his "18 million" which is about %40 of the uninsured.
When a relevant article pops up later on Fark I look forward to seeing all of you there with facts and data.

I know math is generally frowned upon in Fark comments, but numbers from the article went like this: 47 million uninsured less 10 million illegal immigrants (who would remain uninsured) less 18 million denying coverage less an undetermined amount who haven't filed for Medicaid (I would assume Darth Mewling approximates this to be 8 million people) yielding 10 million people. So I would say the article supports his argument.

/ Shame on GodsTumor for making this a health care debate in the first place
// Why do I keep feeding trolls?

Ack_Ack: The Drunk IT Guy: Those puffy lips look just like my Fleshlight!

Me and a friend came up with the idea of buying the black person skin tone fleshlight in the 'mouth' style and attaching a mustache to it. It would be like face-raping Cleveland from The Family Guy.

Seth would approve.

LOL

WUT?

Deacon Blue: Rezinball: Mephistopheles' Revenge: Apparently farkers aren't the only ones that want blood.

Link (new window)

From your link:

Anonymous said...
I'm siding with Jordan Valdez(the fine piece of ass that hit the old lady). She's smoking hot and should not have to spend the prime of her life in jail because some old lady couldn't live long enough for paramedics to arrive.

4:06 PM, July 10, 2009

/Farkin awesome

Yeah, it looks like Farkers have hit the comment section

I saw that too. The lady was MILF-ish territory. She was only 33. The photo from the website doesn't suggest a woman that's been on the street for 5 years. But everyone is fapping for the chance to bang a 17 year old and get away with it.

skullkrusher: NCg8r: cartersdad: Mephistopheles' Revenge: Apparently farkers aren't the only ones that want blood.

Link (new window)

That blog really makes me want to post a comment to "Taylor" who was a family member of the homeless woman. Apparently she is upset now, but had the family taken care of this woman, she would not have been on the street...and jaywalking.

So who's fault is it really??

I don't think the girl should get in trouble for hitting the jaywalker, but she SHOULD get in trouble for leaving. More so because there was a death involved.

But to blame the family of a victim of an accident??? That's low. If homeless, she was probably mentally ill. If she's mentally ill, she's gonna do whatever the fark she wants until she's killed or put into jail/instiutionalized for her actions. As we know, she was never put into jail (or maybe just not long enough).

but if she's mentally ill and unable to make her own decisions, can't the family force her into treatment? Might be a state by state thing though

They CAN, but they don't have to. I faced that decision and it sucked, but I did what I had to do. Her family didn't (or couldn't... again, we don't know the circumstances). There's every chance she wasn't homeless, but was livin' with Ricky n Robby over at the Shady Pines Trailer Court... got caught stumblin' back from a run to the Li'l Champ with a pack o' `Ports and a bottle of WHACK!!!!!!

/Murano

fanbladesaresharp: I saw that too. The lady was MILF-ish territory. She was only 33. The photo from the website doesn't suggest a woman that's been on the street for 5 years. But everyone is fapping for the chance to bang a 17 year old and get away with it.

Egads.

Mug shot, hair standing on end, obviously drunk, ill fitting clothing and a very very stupid stare is hot to you?

/Must be the ladder theory.

wyrlss: NCg8r: cartersdad: Mephistopheles' Revenge: Apparently farkers aren't the only ones that want blood.

Link (new window)

That blog really makes me want to post a comment to "Taylor" who was a family member of the homeless woman. Apparently she is upset now, but had the family taken care of this woman, she would not have been on the street...and jaywalking.

So who's fault is it really??

I don't think the girl should get in trouble for hitting the jaywalker, but she SHOULD get in trouble for leaving. More so because there was a death involved.

But to blame the family of a victim of an accident??? That's low. If homeless, she was probably mentally ill. If she's mentally ill, she's gonna do whatever the fark she wants until she's killed or put into jail/instiutionalized for her actions. As we know, she was never put into jail (or maybe just not long enough).

I'm sorry, I may be completely misunderstanding you here, but are you saying that rather than blaming the girl for the death, or the family, we should blame the victim?

Usually, that would sound crazy. But in this case, the "victim" stepped into the street, where cars have been known to zoom by, and something completely obvious and foreseeable happened. The driver is at fault for fleeing, not for driving down the road like people normally do.

/please note - I don't know all the facts here. if the young driver was speeding, drunk, texting her BFF and ordering some slacks from J Peterman, then she's taking a much larger share of the blame in my eyes.
//STILL doesn't excuse the dead woman from stepping into traffic. That's suicide, not murder...

highendmighty: Fairlane500: wyrlss: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Is this an American-only attitude? Do people in other countries understand what "homeless" actually means?

In San Francisco it means degenerate, drug addled scum bag.

QFT. If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to look at the tops of the buildings if you want to see any beauty at all. The further you progress downward, the more prevelant the absolute filth. There are more lazy, crazy, drug-addled homeless in San Fran than there are pigeons there.

Do I still need to wear a flower in my hair???

trappedspirit: Is there nothing Meatloaf cannot fix?

Joelogon: I don't use the Self-Arrest lane because it doesn't really save you any time, and I hate doing my own handcuffing.

Meh I don't mind the handing cuffing, its the kicking myself in the balls and shooting myself with pepper spray that gets me.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: So go back, read the article, and tell me where this author (and respected economist who teaches at Harvard and has his PhD from MIT) is injecting opinion into the article and not backing his statements as fact.

His illegal immigrant whargarbl isn't backed up with any evidence. His medicaid whargarbl isn't backed up with any evidence. And the percentage of income whargarbl is so thick and tender you could cut it with a fork. Incomes haven't really gone up in 30 years, but healthcare costs have skyrocketed. But according to him, this is ok, because you're getting what you pay for. Insurance execs were probably pissing their pants with laughter as they were reading that.

skullkrusher: but the writer isn't a politican. Quick wiki of him says that he went to Princeton undergrad and got his PhD in Econ from MIT and spent some time at Harvard Law. The fact that he's a Keynesian means he is slightly left of center as far as economists go. Partisan hack.

I don't care if he's ever held office, he's Bush's man and he's Romney's man. I don't give a shiat where he went to school. And accusations of "partisan hack" are pretty rich coming from and asshole who was throwing around "libtard" in this very thread.

Throw the biatch in jail and let her stay there.

Anyone who leaves a person to die out in the middle of the street, alone, without farking calling the paramedics deserves whatever she gets. coont.

Also, nice job trying to cover it up, you little shiatbag.

"Valdez was originally cited for careless driving, but the citation was dismissed when the detective who issued it failed to appear in court to testify."

What? Was the self-prosecution lane having technical problems too?

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: Throw the biatch in jail and let her stay there.

Anyone who leaves a person to die out in the middle of the street, alone, without farking calling the paramedics deserves whatever she gets. coont.

Also, nice job trying to cover it up, you little shiatbag.

I'd still hit it

tedbundee: I'd still hit it

I'd be too terrified I'd have an accident and the biatch would leave me to die because she was 'scared'.

Wendy's Chili: The_Six_Fingered_Man: So go back, read the article, and tell me where this author (and respected economist who teaches at Harvard and has his PhD from MIT) is injecting opinion into the article and not backing his statements as fact.

His illegal immigrant whargarbl isn't backed up with any evidence. His medicaid whargarbl isn't backed up with any evidence. And the percentage of income whargarbl is so thick and tender you could cut it with a fork. Incomes haven't really gone up in 30 years, but healthcare costs have skyrocketed. But according to him, this is ok, because you're getting what you pay for. Insurance execs were probably pissing their pants with laughter as they were reading that.

skullkrusher: but the writer isn't a politican. Quick wiki of him says that he went to Princeton undergrad and got his PhD in Econ from MIT and spent some time at Harvard Law. The fact that he's a Keynesian means he is slightly left of center as far as economists go. Partisan hack.

I don't care if he's ever held office, he's Bush's man and he's Romney's man. I don't give a shiat where he went to school. And accusations of "partisan hack" are pretty rich coming from and asshole who was throwing around "libtard" in this very thread.

well, I thought my "libtard" post was an obvious troll. If it wasn't, I apologize. It was in reference to someone saying that no one hopes homeless people die. I responded "speak for yourself, libtard"... that should have been pretty apparent but anyway.
Partisan hack was a sarcastic reference to the economist, not you.

Illegal immigrant population estimates range from about 8 million to as high as 20 million so I'd say he used a rather conservative number there. I haven't been able to find any figures on people who are eligible for medicaid but have not applied. Median household income has grown rather substantially in the past 30 years. Using the term "whargarbl" does not a good counter-argument make nor does it make you sound like an open-minded person.
In any case, this article which you say does not support the original poster's assertion that your 47 million uninsured number was inflated in fact does support that assertion.

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: tedbundee: I'd still hit it

I'd be too terrified I'd have an accident and the biatch would leave me to die because she was 'scared'.

I'd risk it.

This chick's the only person I ever remember seeing who better in her mugshot than in other pictures. It's almost like they Photoshopped a nicer face on.

/possibly slightly jealous
//I never get to kill people and get away with it
///biatch

Chinchillazilla: This chick's the only person I ever remember seeing who looked better in her mugshot than in other pictures.

FTFM

Chinchillazilla: This chick's the only person I ever remember seeing who better in her mugshot than in other pictures. It's almost like they Photoshopped a nicer face on.

/possibly slightly jealous
//I never get to kill people and get away with it
///biatch

Get pretty and rich.

wyrlss: Chinchillazilla: This chick's the only person I ever remember seeing who better in her mugshot than in other pictures. It's almost like they Photoshopped a nicer face on.

/possibly slightly jealous
//I never get to kill people and get away with it
///biatch

Get pretty and rich.

NOW.

• She killed someone. 30 years doesn't seem like enough.

• But, it was an accident. And 30 years in jail may not rehabilitate her.

• Still, she killed someone. Knocked a homeless woman out of her shoes, and threw her 100 feet. So not only did she leave the scene of an accident, she may have likely been exceeding the speed limit.

• Have her lose her license (until at least 21, if not 25 or later), or make it so she can't drive past midnight, or without supervision. (Though those stipulations may likely not be followed, and may result in fines only).

• Community service sounds like a good idea, especially at a homeless shelter, near where the accident occurred. Maybe also spend time as a crossing guard, near a school zone, to see how others drive, and what she may want to try to avoid. Maybe even do community service at a hospital with accident victims, to see the damage caused by car accidents.
Jail time won't change her, it may make her jaded, and just hurt her later in life.
• If you show her the error of her ways, show her the consequences (to other people), THAT may change her more than jail time.

"The impact knocked Sjostrom out of her shoes and threw her 100 feet, according to police reports." source

fusillade762: Just a lil bit? Anyone?


Dammit, pic got nerfed. What I was trying to say: does anyone else think she looks a little bit like Alyson Hannigan?

Wendy's Chili: The_Six_Fingered_Man: So go back, read the article, and tell me where this author (and respected economist who teaches at Harvard and has his PhD from MIT) is injecting opinion into the article and not backing his statements as fact.

His illegal immigrant whargarbl isn't backed up with any evidence. His medicaid whargarbl isn't backed up with any evidence. And the percentage of income whargarbl is so thick and tender you could cut it with a fork. Incomes haven't really gone up in 30 years, but healthcare costs have skyrocketed. But according to him, this is ok, because you're getting what you pay for. Insurance execs were probably pissing their pants with laughter as they were reading that.

skullkrusher: but the writer isn't a politican. Quick wiki of him says that he went to Princeton undergrad and got his PhD in Econ from MIT and spent some time at Harvard Law. The fact that he's a Keynesian means he is slightly left of center as far as economists go. Partisan hack.

I don't care if he's ever held office, he's Bush's man and he's Romney's man. I don't give a shiat where he went to school. And accusations of "partisan hack" are pretty rich coming from and asshole who was throwing around "libtard" in this very thread.

he also cites an article written by an economist from Berkeley and another from Stanford for his higher incomes can explain a greater % of income spent on healthcare. Hardly bastions of Bushie "whargarbl".
I am willing to bet that people tend to spend a greater % of their money on leisure as incomes go up as well. Is that evidence that the cost of leisure is getting out of hand as well?

myzdoxae: • She killed someone. 30 years doesn't seem like enough.

• But, it was an accident. And 30 years in jail may not rehabilitate her.

• Still, she killed someone. Knocked a homeless woman out of her shoes, and threw her 100 feet. So not only did she leave the scene of an accident, she may have likely been exceeding the speed limit.

• Have her lose her license (until at least 21, if not 25 or later), or make it so she can't drive past midnight, or without supervision. (Though those stipulations may likely not be followed, and may result in fines only).

• Community service sounds like a good idea, especially at a homeless shelter, near where the accident occurred. Maybe also spend time as a crossing guard, near a school zone, to see how others drive, and what she may want to try to avoid. Maybe even do community service at a hospital with accident victims, to see the damage caused by car accidents.
Jail time won't change her, it may make her jaded, and just hurt her later in life.
• If you show her the error of her ways, show her the consequences (to other people), THAT may change her more than jail time.

"The impact knocked Sjostrom out of her shoes and threw her 100 feet, according to police reports." source

See? It was a compassionate death! The b*tch didn't know what hit her!

FREE THIS GIRL! FREE THIS GIRL! FREE THIS GIRL!

it's funny how things work, running from farked up situations is kind of built into the genes, so is it really surprising that so many people bolt? I mean, personally, I don't have that reaction, I'm the guy who usually runs *toward* trouble, but while the whole hiding out thing is mildly reprehensible I don't think we should make two tragedies out of one. Make her do some time yeah, but this chick is likely riding around on a junior license, what possible rationale says that she should be tried as an adult?

spam the other other white meat: trappedspirit: Is there nothing Meatloaf cannot fix?

Nice job photoshopping her glasses off

skullkrusher: Illegal immigrant population estimates range from about 8 million to as high as 20 million so I'd say he used a rather conservative number there. I haven't been able to find any figures on people who are eligible for medicaid but have not applied. Median household income has grown rather substantially in the past 30 years. Using the term "whargarbl" does not a good counter-argument make nor does it make you sound like an open-minded person.
In any case, this article which you say does not support the original poster's assertion that your 47 million uninsured number was inflated in fact does support that assertion.

It supports it, but not with any facts. How does the author know that all of these immigrants are uninsured?

skullkrusher: he also cites an article written by an economist from Berkeley and another from Stanford for his higher incomes can explain a greater % of income spent on healthcare. Hardly bastions of Bushie "whargarbl".
I am willing to bet that people tend to spend a greater % of their money on leisure as incomes go up as well. Is that evidence that the cost of leisure is getting out of hand as well?

The fact that you are "willing to bet" isn't evidence.

The % of income going to healthcare has risen dramatically, the % of income going to rent/mortgages and other costs of living have risen dramatically, the only way people are spending more on leisure as well is if they're living off of ramen and dollar menu cheeseburgers and piling up credit card debt.

That article is a bunch of bullshiat, this part in particular: higher incomes can explain a greater % of income spent on healthcare. First of all, real income, adjusted for inflation, has been stagnant for decades while healthcare costs have skyrocketed. But even if it weren't and Reagan's trickle was making all of us richer every day, healthcare isn't a luxury. People aren't paying a greater and greater percentage of their income on it because it's neat and they like it and they have the disposable income, they do it because they need it. The insurance companies keep jacking up rates because they can. People continue to pay them because they have little or no choice. If people just had more money to blow on it as the author suggests, then people wouldn't be going into bankruptcy

Most on the right admit to their constituents that the status quo is unacceptable, but they pull out the most outrageous excuses to maintain it. IT boggles the mind. And I don't care what some douche from Berkeley or Stanford said, if I had the inclination, I could drop names of dozens of academics who say the exact opposite of what these jokers are saying.

Can I try her as an adult?

jafiwam: fanbladesaresharp: I saw that too. The lady was MILF-ish territory. She was only 33. The photo from the website doesn't suggest a woman that's been on the street for 5 years. But everyone is fapping for the chance to bang a 17 year old and get away with it.

Egads.

Mug shot, hair standing on end, obviously drunk, ill fitting clothing and a very very stupid stare is hot to you?

/Must be the ladder theory.

It Friday. Give it time for TSG's line up. I didn't say hot to ME, just that she doesn't look as "hard" as what one might expect from one that has been on the streets a while.

I'm surprised they're even pretending to file charges.

When this first come up, there was a lot of "Oh but..." from the prosecutors because her family (and their money) was basically shielding her from everything after she ran and for whatever reason they couldn't get the appropriate evidence because they had destroyed it.

Just the way i likes em, young, petite, top heavy & full of emotional distress.

Wendy's Chili: skullkrusher: Illegal immigrant population estimates range from about 8 million to as high as 20 million so I'd say he used a rather conservative number there. I haven't been able to find any figures on people who are eligible for medicaid but have not applied. Median household income has grown rather substantially in the past 30 years. Using the term "whargarbl" does not a good counter-argument make nor does it make you sound like an open-minded person.
In any case, this article which you say does not support the original poster's assertion that your 47 million uninsured number was inflated in fact does support that assertion.

It supports it, but not with any facts. How does the author know that all of these immigrants are uninsured?

skullkrusher: he also cites an article written by an economist from Berkeley and another from Stanford for his higher incomes can explain a greater % of income spent on healthcare. Hardly bastions of Bushie "whargarbl".
I am willing to bet that people tend to spend a greater % of their money on leisure as incomes go up as well. Is that evidence that the cost of leisure is getting out of hand as well?

The fact that you are "willing to bet" isn't evidence.

The % of income going to healthcare has risen dramatically, the % of income going to rent/mortgages and other costs of living have risen dramatically, the only way people are spending more on leisure as well is if they're living off of ramen and dollar menu cheeseburgers and piling up credit card debt.

That article is a bunch of bullshiat, this part in particular: higher incomes can explain a greater % of income spent on healthcare. First of all, real income, adjusted for inflation, has been stagnant for decades while healthcare costs have skyrocketed. But even if it weren't and Reagan's trickle was making all of us richer every day, healthcare isn't a luxury. People aren't paying a greater and greater percentage of their income on it because it's neat and they like it and they have the disposable income, they do it because they need it. The insurance companies keep jacking up rates because they can. People continue to pay them because they have little or no choice. If people just had more money to blow on it as the author suggests, then people wouldn't be going into bankruptcy

Most on the right admit to their constituents that the status quo is unacceptable, but they pull out the most outrageous excuses to maintain it. IT boggles the mind. And I don't care what some douche from Berkeley or Stanford said, if I had the inclination, I could drop names of dozens of academics who say the exact opposite of what these jokers are saying.

first off, you say that there are 47 million uninsured people in the United States and that "skyrocketing" health insurance costs is putting so many families at risk but then but then you are going to argue that any substantial percentage of illegal immigrants have insurance? No, the author does not have proof that all illegal immigrants lack insurance but let's not be obtuse here.

You are speaking often about "lack of proof" and now you're threatening to "drop names of dozens of academics who say the exact opposite of what these jokers are saying"... so do it. If the article's author has a burden of proof, I'd say you do as well.

Where is your data and counter arguments aside from insulting people who disagree with you, both on the Fark board as well as extremely well regarded economists?

Doesn't anyone give a damn that her fleeing had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the woman died? Even the police have more or less cleared her of any wrongdoing in the accident itself, and it's been widely published that this woman received medical attention very shortly after the accident because some bystanders called for assistance.

What she did was wrong and she deserves to pay for it in some way, but saying she committed manslaughter or murder or anything even remotely similar to that is just ignorant and inflammatory. Her leaving the scene had NOTHING AT ALL to do with the death, and she apparently was not negligent or reckless in hitting the woman. If she were she would have been charged with negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter.

lehmac: homeless

The caption to the right of the picture (above the article): Jordan Valdez, the teen charged in the hit-and-run of a homeless woman, leaves the booking office after turning herself in to police Thursday.

So what's wrong with Efficiency? I thought Americans hated the red tape?

17 is legal in this state.

I'd motorboat those ta-tas.

giggidy

even the cop is stroking his gun

what rich kid?

Again-- send the biatch to jail. You leave people to die in the middle of the road, you deserve what you get.

sxacho: DslainteC: sxacho: Settle down. The victim was HOMELESS. Can't you read?

Point taken. I missed the part about her being homeless. That means she had no family and was unloved. Quite frankly, I'm glad she's dead.

Now you've got it.

Ouch. That's hands down the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life anywhere. I only wish this thread weren't dead so that you could see my appreciation.