LMAO.. so wrong

This is not anything new.

waitasecond... weren't they just saying that slightly overweight humans live longer?

But too few and we perish! HOW CAN WE TELL?!

So you can be skinny, and live longer; but you'll be miserable at all the yummy food you're not eating.

SCREW THAT.

Uchiha_Cycliste: waitasecond... weren't they just saying that slightly overweight humans live longer?

Good point...

FTFA: The study diet included 15 percent protein and 10 percent fat and was enriched with vitamins.

So it's 75% carbs? That's a terrible diet for people.

/Eats 40% protein, 30% carbs, 30% fat

This has been known to be true in many species. I had a rat who lived past 3 years of age (truly a landmark age for a rat!) because (I am convinced) I occasionally forgot to feed her for a day at a time. So she would go without food (never for longer than a day and a half) once every fortnight or so. She lived a very long time, and was a happy, healthy animal, and very sweet-natured to boot. Ended up dying peacefully in her sleep at around 3yrs + 3 months.

Gyrfalcon: So you can be skinny, and live longer; but you'll be miserable at all the yummy food you're not eating.

SCREW THAT.

Nah, it's a self balancing thing. When I lost weight I stopped craving the bad stuff as much because I was more in love with myself than the food.

RealFarknMcCoy2: This has been known to be true in many species. I had a rat who lived past 3 years of age (truly a landmark age for a rat!) because (I am convinced) I occasionally forgot to feed her for a day at a time. So she would go without food (never for longer than a day and a half) once every fortnight or so. She lived a very long time, and was a happy, healthy animal, and very sweet-natured to boot. Ended up dying peacefully in her sleep at around 3yrs + 3 months.

of clogged arteries?

A Tout Le Monde: Gyrfalcon: So you can be skinny, and live longer; but you'll be miserable at all the yummy food you're not eating.

SCREW THAT.

Nah, it's a self balancing thing. When I lost weight I stopped craving the bad stuff as much because I was more in love with myself than the food.

You sound fat.

I've been waiting for someone to write "I'm not a monkey, I'm a woman."

A Tout Le Monde: When I lost weight I stopped craving the bad stuff as much because I was more in love with myself than the food.

I surprised myself when I voluntarily started cutting back on beer because I liked the way I looked after losing weight. Same with pizza and bagels.

/I sound like I used to be fat

Classic headline

Did you hear that fat people? Another excuse to eat 3 portions per meal and never exercise!

It works particularly well with women.

Bacon has the best combinations of what you need.

Caloric restriction is well known to increase longevity. What the don't tell you is that the rats become mean and stop having sex. If that's how you want to live your life, go ahead, have an extra 20 years of miserable existence.

People are working on this. resveratrol and rapamycin are known to increase lifespan, along with IGF1 mutants. Works in worms, flies, monkeys, and presumably humans.

Also a "high fat" diet for mice is considered >8%. Those mice die sooner than mice on a 4% fat diet. We need to find the mechanisms to mimic caloric restriction and stem cell properties. Look at telomerase, stem cell markers like Oct 4, Igf1, and sirtuin activators like resveratrol. DNA methylation probably plays a role in controlling senescence as well.

Wait - how much monkey should I eat?

dithi: Caloric restriction is well known to increase longevity. What the don't tell you is that the rats become mean and stop having sex. If that's how you want to live your life, go ahead, have an extra 20 years of miserable existence.

People are working on this. resveratrol and rapamycin are known to increase lifespan, along with IGF1 mutants. Works in worms, flies, monkeys, and presumably humans.

Also a "high fat" diet for mice is considered >8%. Those mice die sooner than mice on a 4% fat diet. We need to find the mechanisms to mimic caloric restriction and stem cell properties. Look at telomerase, stem cell markers like Oct 4, Igf1, and sirtuin activators like resveratrol. DNA methylation probably plays a role in controlling senescence as well.

But all this is academic. The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

I've done questionable things.

dithi: Caloric restriction is well known to increase longevity. What the don't tell you is that the rats become mean and stop having sex.


Sounds like there are no real drawbacks for this crowd, then.

Fonaibung: Uchiha_Cycliste: waitasecond... weren't they just saying that slightly overweight humans live longer?

Good point...

FTFA: The study diet included 15 percent protein and 10 percent fat and was enriched with vitamins.

So it's 75% carbs? That's a terrible diet for people.

/Eats 40% protein, 30% carbs, 30% fat

Lies! When I'm commuting everyday, my diet is around 60-70%carbs. Sweet sweet carbs. Maybe 2 pounds of pasta a day at least. mmmmmmm

That's some great research by the Nofarkinshiat brigade. Quit being a porker, you'll live longer. Ta-da!

D_Evans45: Did you hear that fat people?

Did I hear that fat people what?

/Have probably heard it, no matter what it is.
//This is Fark, after all.

rodeofrog:
But all this is academic. The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

I've done questionable things.


approves.

Jeff73: dithi: Caloric restriction is well known to increase longevity. What the don't tell you is that the rats become mean and stop having sex.


Sounds like there are no real drawbacks for this crowd, then.

thread over

DNRTFA: YOU ARE A MONKEY

BrokenDrew: DNRTFA: YOU ARE A MONKEY

I wanna be a monkey. A monkey monkey monkey.
A MOOOnkey monkey monkey.
A Monke monkey monkey.
I wanna be a monkey. A monkey monkey monkey.
Would you like to be one toooooo?

Jeff73: dithi: Caloric restriction is well known to increase longevity. What the don't tell you is that the rats become mean and stop having sex.


Sounds like there are no real drawbacks for this crowd, then.

Sick burn.

I have to say though, this is how it all starts. First you make the monkeys live longer . . . then they take over the world.

Explains the creative output of starving artists. And possibly why I understood stuff in college when I scrounged couch coins for food that seems abstruse now.

Fracas - Did I hear that fat people what?

/Have probably heard it, no matter what it is.


Holy shiat, it appears an actual fat person has eaten the comma straight out of my post.

/You're probably a lardass too, but I won't hold it against you
//May snuggle against you for warmth if we're ever in the same area and I need shelter

spanking your monkey > not feeding your monkey

/Hot like a fast metabolism

sleep lack
I saw a hat hanging from the ceiling of a tourist trap in Canada with that phrase on it 20 years ago.

It's the only hat that ever changed my life.

Words to live by.

Years ago I worked at a lab that did primarily animal testing. One of the ongoing studies there involved life span / diet.

There was something like 8 groups of rats.

Group 1 was given all the food they could eat. How much they ate was averaged out and each of the following groups got a declining percentage of that amount.

Eventually the entire group 1 died off and it took a year or two for the rest to die off completely. They did live a long ass time as far as rats go, but they were some scraggly bastards.

I think that while the experiment had some interesting results, it's got a fatal flaw. These rats had a very sedate life style. Locked up in a small cage about the size of a shoebox for their entire lives with nothing to do and nobody to socialize with.

rodeofrog:
But all this is academic. The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

I've done questionable things.

Yes, but have you ever seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion?

Monkeys are not apes. (1:31 minutes in, Youtube, pops like your moobs)

Wow, I remember reading nearly the same story in 1997 or so in National Geographic. Those researchers used mice, though.

if only I could stop my spindles from degrading I wouldn't need to control my caloric intake

/we know why humans age but there's not a damn thing we can do about it
//yet
///[citation required]

dithi the rats stop having sex

At the very least, I eat a third less food today than I did 15-20 years ago, and this much I can tell you: my very own, personal boner's harder today than it's ever been.

it's not really that old news. this is possibly the longest CR study completed to date, having gone on for 20 years now. just because a CR diet improved longevity of mice and rats (that have a normal lifespan of 1-2 years) didn't mean that it would improve the lifespan of other mammals with longer base lifespans.

i've seen some pictures from this study. just the difference in appearance from a 7 year old monkey on a normal diet and a 7 year old monkey on a CR diet was damn impressive. the 7 year old CR monkey's appearance was most similar to 3 year old monkey from the control group.

/most humans don't like to think "long-term"
//eat away fatties

SonikTooth: it's not really that old news. this is possibly the longest CR study completed to date, having gone on for 20 years now. just because a CR diet improved longevity of mice and rats (that have a normal lifespan of 1-2 years) didn't mean that it would improve the lifespan of other mammals with longer base lifespans.

i've seen some pictures from this study. just the difference in appearance from a 7 year old monkey on a normal diet and a 7 year old monkey on a CR diet was damn impressive. the 7 year old CR monkey's appearance was most similar to 3 year old monkey from the control group.

/most humans don't like to think "long-term"
//eat away fatties

I assume you know that the longevity increase comes from not just "eating right" but mild starvation. Feel free to be smug about being fit, running 10k a day, and being at the gym in 26 minutes, but that won't increase your life span. You won't have the energy for those things as you're always in a near caloric deficit.

/Tried the near starvation thing.
//Lost a lot of weight but felt like crap for a year. No energy.
///Not worth it.
////Fat bastard again.

JerkyMeat: sleep lack
I saw a hat hanging from the ceiling of a tourist trap in Canada with that phrase on it 20 years ago.

It's the only hat that ever changed my life.

Words to live by.

Just having coffee so maybe I missed something here, but what did the hat say?
Am I biting?

PonceAlyosha: I've been waiting for someone to write "I'm not a monkey, I'm a woman."

I am not a monkey, I am a woman.

/feel better?

Wait a minute... If I evolved from monkeys and apes - why are there still monkeys and apes?

*ducks and covers*

EZ Writer: Wait a minute... If I evolved from monkeys and apes - why are there still monkeys and apes?

*ducks and covers*

Who says you are "evolved"?

Shirley Ujest: Who says you are "evolved"?

This shadowy figure in the corner (I hear he has a thing for monkeys):





If I'm not "evolved," I'm at least on a higher playing field than my hairy cousins... I can open beer all by myself.

The study is actually over a year old. This is just a repackaged "article". A story about this exact study was on the site a year ago.