sweeneytoad: What sucks is that the ones in my cohort who got their MS in applied soc got all the jobs, and those of us who took the MA route didn't, well, not sociology related jobs anyway.

Yeah, just a little bitter ;)

Same here. Our cohort is primarily thesis (both sociology and applied sociology are MAs, so we're thesis or project) students, but we have been building our applied program for a little while, and I think it may be the first cohort to be mainly thesis students. Save for a couple of students, I think our thesis students all have gone on to Ph.D.s while all our applied students have jobs and pay taxes and other such adult things.

Uchiha_Cycliste: What DO sociologists do, outside of teach and law? Not condescending, genuinely curious.

Grant-writing, program evaluation, some do work with GIS for government agencies (at least, that's why I had to learn it in applied skills supposedly), social/ demographic research and polling, among other things.

I plan to teach, research, and write because I wasn't ever very good at the whole work thing. :-P

Selfabortion: SFSailor: Uchiha_Cycliste: SFSailor: Elzar: Oh my God, Nicolas! Look at her butt! It is so big....

... so your girlfriend rolls a Renault...
... playin' books on tape by Foucault...

YOU DO NOT MENTION FOUCAULT HERE!
*shudders* give me Wacquant any day.

Come on now, how many French names can you^ come up with that rhyme with the name of a French car company?

Sheesh!

* Where, of course, "you" is defined as "my drunk and dumb ass having failed to find a rhyme for Citroen in 5 seconds of trying"

Peugeot - Bordieu?
Renault - Foucault, de Certeau?
Honda - Lacan-da

/Got nothin

Citrone-Calonne.

Very much.

I love this.

Sarkozy seems to be admiring her general overall beauty, while Obama is locked in with laser sights on one area in particular.


Pleeeeaase. Your kidding, right?

Is Hr for a non-profit the same as Hr for an engineering company?
Does the data/market analysis require using the skills you learned with respect to human interaction and society, or the skills you picked up necessarily from statistics to understand and deconstruct collected data?

I'm not sure if there is a difference. I am not familiar with the area. Most of the skills the others use in their jobs does come from stats classes, program evaluation and even at times some grant writing. They werent required for me, but I did take program evaluation and really enjoyed it. I wouldn't give up my thesis experience for anything but I wish I had taken some more applied skills classes. Live and learn!

Now... as someone who does not quite align with Obama's policies, I can agree with him at least on this point.

Damn, that's a nice ass.

/I hold no hate for the man, just his policies.
//slashies.

Plate of Crazy: Grant-writing, program evaluation, some do work with GIS for government agencies (at least, that's why I had to learn it in applied skills supposedly), social/ demographic research and polling, among other things.

How much of the ability to do these things did you guys pick up from sociological theories and the understanding of people, and how much of it is applied math or stat? I think actually real life application of the stuff I've read would be really neat.

Egalitarian: technicolor-misfit
Egalitarian - Dudes are dudes. Also it's not as gross when the guy doing the checking-out is good-looking, not old, and relatively classy.

It would be a little nasty if it were Henry Kissinger or Carrot Top. Or 90's era Bill Clinton, for that matter.


So, you're saying women vilify the exact same conduct from one man that they approve in another based solely on looks?

Wow... women are shallow evil coonts.

Oh come on, there's a "teacher screwing a student" thread on Fark almost every day, and most of you guys high-five each other if the chick is hot. It's only if the teacher was fat/old/ugly that you're disgusted.

What I failed to explain clearly in my previous post was that behavior also counts. I recently had a guy lean out a car and yell "NICE TITS" at me. He was a good looking guy in his 20's but his delivery was so nasty, it was rather offensive. Contrast that with an old guy coming up to me (when I was much younger) and saying that I was very pretty, in a classy sort of way and not sleazy at all ... that was nice.

I'm just sayin, the good looking 40 year old guy who looks at your ass but doesn't yell "NICE ASS" scores more points than the Don Rickles or Shea LaPoof who tries to goose your crotch while making a Harpo Marx horn-honking sound.

\wah-wah

Nice tits.

Not that I'd know.

IRT SFlaxx - If the photo's skewed, so be it, it's a skewed or misleading photo. If the photo's accurate he looks stupid as anybody in their forties or even thirties would look.

If I were in the public eye either in photos or on film I would look incredibly IDIOTIC. My face is too mobile, I would blink my eyes and gesticulate too much. Faced w/the onslaught of flashbulbs would result in a disastrous photograph, probably w/my eyes shut and a grimace. My quirks which MIGHT be likeable or even charming in RL would look possibly, at best, neurotic, at worst, sinister.

However, I am not Barack Obama or any other public figure who has been in the public eye almost continuously for the last 4 yrs? I have not been trained for the public eye neither am I the PotUS at a public event who is used to and schooled in maintaining a public face.

In everyday life I am able to maintain, as are most males or females I know, when confronted w/badaboom or wtfweretheythinkingorsaying???!! a straight face.

I mainly wrote in reply to the idea that it is either cute or acceptable for a 40 something, let alone the PotUS, to leer at someone's ass.

It's not evil either but it is immature and it isn't attractive.

Just my opinion.

To the Fox News twats, to Malkin and Rush and Coulter, and to all the others of your dying breed who are grasping at this particular straw, I say go for it. It's like watching a couple of mean old stray dogs finding some bones and gristle in a dumpster. You know that those dogs would have ripped your throat out in their prime, and they still kind of scare you, and they certainly repulse you. But in the end you just have to pity them, cause the snow's started to fall, and you know those wretched things won't be here in the spring.

I'm gonna miss you zany fascist retards.

LincolnLogolas: Egalitarian: technicolor-misfit
Egalitarian - Dudes are dudes. Also it's not as gross when the guy doing the checking-out is good-looking, not old, and relatively classy.

It would be a little nasty if it were Henry Kissinger or Carrot Top. Or 90's era Bill Clinton, for that matter.


So, you're saying women vilify the exact same conduct from one man that they approve in another based solely on looks?

Wow... women are shallow evil coonts.

Oh come on, there's a "teacher screwing a student" thread on Fark almost every day, and most of you guys high-five each other if the chick is hot. It's only if the teacher was fat/old/ugly that you're disgusted.

What I failed to explain clearly in my previous post was that behavior also counts. I recently had a guy lean out a car and yell "NICE TITS" at me. He was a good looking guy in his 20's but his delivery was so nasty, it was rather offensive. Contrast that with an old guy coming up to me (when I was much younger) and saying that I was very pretty, in a classy sort of way and not sleazy at all ... that was nice.

I'm just sayin, the good looking 40 year old guy who looks at your ass but doesn't yell "NICE ASS" scores more points than the Don Rickles or Shea LaPoof who tries to goose your crotch while making a Harpo Marx horn-honking sound.

\wah-wah

Nice tits.

Not that I'd know.

Has a political thread thread ever crossed over into BIE?
/not asking for BIE
//just wondering

Noam Chimpsky: pvd021: I'm pretty sure those IN THE CLOSET republicans are raising hell over this. LOL... But then again, I know of a few Republicans who can appreciate Obama's perspective of this ordeal...

Obama was trying to act all hetero without having an understanding of what a heterosexual leader of a country would do in his situation.

I think the Euro leaders might have punked him into it though. They are all laughing about how they punked the gay American President into acting sexual about the young girl. I'm more pissed at the euros for making a mockery of our gay American President than at Obama himself.

When your fervid nightime fantasies start to spill over into your waking state, it's time to go back on you meds, dude.
The big, black lover you crave is never coming.

Uchiha_Cycliste: Plate of Crazy: Grant-writing, program evaluation, some do work with GIS for government agencies (at least, that's why I had to learn it in applied skills supposedly), social/ demographic research and polling, among other things.

How much of the ability to do these things did you guys pick up from sociological theories and the understanding of people, and how much of it is applied math or stat? I think actually real life application of the stuff I've read would be really neat.

Of the above, I'd say little of it is theory-driven. Demographic research probably has (or can have) some theoretical component, but it is possible to avoid theory almost entirely in applied sociology. It's not that sociology is being applied so much as data and statistics, which is why I'm sticking to academia.

That said, a friend is finishing her thesis this summer, and she is using the new ecological paradigm (environmental sociological theory about societal interaction with the environment, which I know next to nothing about) to measure attitudes towards recycling in our state (TN) and is using that to develop environmental education programs. She's writing grants to have the programs funded as well. I suppose that could be a real life application?

Health care? Banking system? Sustainable energy? Land war in Asia?

How much time did you dedicate to these other issues today? America = full retard.

Gato Negro:
2) She's only SEVENTEEN. The girl is 17 f*cking years old.

Dude, if you're not turned on by a hot woman at the peak of her fertility and sexuality, you're the one with problems.

That was one hell of an ass. Yessiree it was.


\Now back yo our regularly scheduled program.

Green Scorpio: Now, that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!

Turk: I'm sayin'!
But you know what? I'm not giving her anymore ammo! There is no way in hell that she'll ever be able to bust my-- Dayumn!

A hot nurse walks past, catching their attention.

J.D.: Ooooooh! That ass warrants the Batman sound effects loop!

Turk: POW!

J.D.: ZAP!

Turk: BOPYOWoooooo.....

Turning to face JD, Turk trails off as he comes face to face with an angry Carla.

Carla: Turk, how come every time I turn around you're checking out some woman's you-know-what?

J.D.: Tushie parts?

Turk: Thanks for having my back.

J.D.: [clicks teeth]

Carla walks off.

Turk: Babe.

J.D.: [doing neck bob and finger wag] That means "now she all maaad."

Navin R Johnson: To the Fox News twats, to Malkin and Rush and Coulter, and to all the others

Bachmann! This has her fingerprints all over it!!!

Plate of Crazy:

Of the above, I'd say little of it is theory-driven. Demographic research probably has (or can have) some theoretical component, but it is possible to avoid theory almost entirely in applied sociology. It's not that sociology is being applied so much as data and statistics, which is why I'm sticking to academia.

That said, a friend is finishing her thesis this summer, and she is using the new ecological paradigm (environmental sociological theory about societal interaction with the environment, which I know next to nothing about) to measure attitudes towards recycling in our state (TN) and is using that to develop environmental education programs. She's writing grants to have the programs funded as well. I suppose that could be a real life application?

Are there applications for Sociology where you use models and theory to make predictions and direct actions?
Say you have a goal, and that goal involves changing the behaviors of many. Actually, I guess this is very similar to your recycling friend. Can you write down what you know about people, (which I guess she is doing), take that and figure out how to get them to change? Kind of like chess. For instance, if we do this, then they should react like that. However if we do this instead, they will likely do that, and then if we do that afterward, they should respond like this. I guess it becomes a hybrid of Soc and Psych. More specifically it you begin to use the theories of deviance and control, where you define deviance to be the behavior you want people to adapt, and your goal being to get as many of them to do so such that it becomes the norm.

shipofthesun: RIP FOUCAULT'S PENDULUM,2009.

Wrong Foucault, and that's not a pendulum.

/why, yes, I AM a sarcastic pedantic A-hole.

The Homer Tax: Anyone who doesn't look at that picture and think anything other than "that's funny as shiat," trying to turn it into a partisan thing or whatever just...has no soul and has taken party politics to a level where they really need to stop and re-evaluate their priorities in life.

This needs to be repeated, possibly multiple times.

Looks to me like Obama was actually turning around to talk to someone behind him rather than intentionally ogling the Brazilian chick's butt, but regardless, the pic is full of win.

The photo appears to show Obama glancing at some sweet young tail.
As shown in this thread, this will not hurt him and could even help.
So please, forward this pic to your friends to show them what a dirty, nasty man our president is.

Of course, video would be even more incriminating.
It's just too bad no one bothers to shoot video of the POTUS at an international conference anymore.

Because we'd be looking at that, instead.

SFSailor: Elzar: Oh my God, Nicolas! Look at her butt! It is so big....

... so your girlfriend rolls a Renault...
... playin' books on tape by Foucault...

You win infinity+1 internets.

Lenny_da_Hog: Gato Negro:
2) She's only SEVENTEEN. The girl is 17 f*cking years old.

Dude, if you're not turned on by a hot woman at the peak of her fertility and sexuality, you're the one with problems.

It's true that anyone with normal heterosexual tendencies who would say that they can't be sexually attracted to a fresh looking 17 year old are lying, but we create societal standards that says it's off limits. A President that needs to make a public scene around it is acting...odd...to say the least. All real heterosexual males know that you can't make a public scene looking at that stuff if you are President of the United States of the freakin America...for goodness sakes.

SFlaxx: Do you see the kitten moving?

Damn, that's a cute kitten.

Anyone post this (new window) yet?

And if I was the President (was the President)
The minute that I saw that Brazilian butt (was the President)
I'd say "Now who do, (whooo)
Who do you think you're fooling? (who do you think you're fooling)
I've got the Presidential Seal (was the president)
I'm up on the Presidential Po-o-dium (oooh)

Dat mama sucks me, she sucks me
She get down on her knees and suck me
(oh)She loves to suck my c*ck
She rocks me like the rock of ages
And sucks me

Just so I'm straight on this, is he being criticized for being heterosexual? Because even my wife would forgive a double take on that ass.

Hottentot derrières:

Sapphire Stevens
Michelle Obama.

Noam Chimpsky: It's true that anyone with normal heterosexual tendencies who would say that they can't be sexually attracted to a fresh looking 17 year old are lying, but we create societal standards that says it's off limits.

Which is why I am proposing a bill to have birth dates tattooed on every infant's forehead so there can be no confusion between 17 and 18 year old ass.

Unless you're behind them.

Let me get back to you on this.

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Noam Chimpsky: It's true that anyone with normal heterosexual tendencies who would say that they can't be sexually attracted to a fresh looking 17 year old are lying, but we create societal standards that says it's off limits.

Which is why I am proposing a bill to have birth dates tattooed on every infant's forehead so there can be no confusion between 17 and 18 year old ass.

Unless you're behind them.

Let me get back to you on this.

There is a back up tattoo on the small of her back. Think of it this way, she's probably gonna get a tramp stamp there anyways, so if you glance and DON'T see a tramp stamp, she's probably under 18. However it never hurts to go in for closer inspection.

shipofthesun: RIP FOUCAULT'S PENDULUM,2009.

Trebuchet ≠ pendulum

Speaker2Animals: shipofthesun: RIP FOUCAULT'S PENDULUM,2009.

Trebuchet ≠ pendulum

Double fail! heh. Unfortunately, he didn't fail hard enough to win.

It looks like Chelsea Clinton.

Foucalt y'all

white girl got nice ass and nice hips. so what? Michelle is not going to allow Obama to Air McNair himself.

Cyberluddite: And I seriously doubt Sarkozy will be made to feel shame. And I think he qualifies as white, non?

Technically, I think Sarkozy is Asian.

Why do you keep calling that girl white?

Bwahahaha

The pic is front and center page on the fox news site with their hallmark juvenile caption: "WHEN IN ROME ... "
Link (new window)

If it were not for the millions of people that take fox news for real news, I would actually enjoy it for the comedic value.

GoodasGold: "What'chall got that we don't have?"

Hair that doesn't require a barrel of toxic waste and a blowtorch to straighten?

/you know who else straightened her his fro?

There is no denying that one. His eyes were fixed on that Brazilian booty.

Rlou:
If it were not for the millions of people that take fox news for real news, I would actually enjoy it for the comedic value.

Well, it is real news, it's just presented in a sensational way that you don't like. In any case, Fox News, to my knowledge, is the only credible news site so far that has any personality actually "debunking" this image. Maybe they'll get wise and actually post the farking video online instead of just mentioning it.

whizbang: HansensDisease: Cyberluddite: Fine, upstanding white Republican men never would engage in such crass behavior.

If Obama were a Republican he'd be checkin' out Sarkozy.

WIN.

/back when that picture came out, I printed it off and stuck it above the TV in my dorm lounge... then listened to everyone cracking up when they noticed it. Can't decide whether it looks more zombie or ass-grabby, but either way it's great.

Meowsertd: She does look nice, maybe the mainstream media will report on this photo so we can learn more about her, I doubt they will because it makes barry look like what he is.

A heterosexual male? Why would that be a problem??

Meowsertd: a white man would be made to feel shame for something like this, however Nobama there likly will win approval points

Sobrrr: It looks like Chelsea Clinton.

I guess I can see it a little bit.

"Damn erection... Maybe if I stand funny I can kinda conceal it... yeah, there we go."

stay classy Obama...

For Fark sake... I personally can't stand the new American Idol the yanks elected as their new president. But with that being said - let the poor man appreciate a fine piece of Brazilian ass. His job is hard enough without the world having a go at the most normal straight male behaviour - and I'll bet a jug of my own neocon tears that he's going to cop a flogging from the missus when she catches sight of this.


//boobies rule!