IRT SFlaxx - That's why I said "apparently," in the photo it looks like he's gawking idiotically, on film, maybe not. If he did gawk like that than he or any man or woman in their forties, regardless of their educational level should be capable of a little more discretion.

Mentat:

Frau Bruni-Sarkozy is attractive.

Most people seem to forget that in the Bush ass photo the gal had asked him if he wanted to slap her ass as a victory celebration.

I have no point to make - it just seemed that people forgot the story behind (heh) that photo.

Ffft. I don even like Obama but looks to me like he's goin "Are you kiddin me? This chick came here barefoot?"

Then he was probably all like "and what a great arse!"

And he'd be right.

I long for the care free days of an actual presidential sex scandal.

Mentat: nomsumpisces: Plate of Crazy: alfredromeo: Uchiha_Cycliste: SFSailor: Elzar: Oh my God, Nicolas! Look at her butt! It is so big....

... so your girlfriend rolls a Renault...
... playin' books on tape by Foucault...

YOU DO NOT MENTION FOUCAULT HERE!
*shudders* give me Wacquant any day.

Would all the grad students or former grad students in this thread please say "Aye".

Aye. Communication and sociology, thus enjoying this thread immensely.

Seconded. Soon to be grad student for cultural anthropology. Had to read The History of Sexuality Vol. 1 at least four times in undergrad. In anthro, though, I think his time is nearing an end as the go-to obscure high theorist of the moment.

Ima grad student. Reading a lot of Alastair MacIntyre these days. Read a bit of Foucault, mostly in relation to how he took up Nietzsche's "genealogical method" of the history of ideas, especially normative concepts like rationality, etc.

Foucault's not really that crazy, he calls attention to some important things. But, in a word, perspectivalism does not entail relativism.

Bhasayate: Mentat: nomsumpisces: Plate of Crazy: alfredromeo: Uchiha_Cycliste: SFSailor: Elzar: Oh my God, Nicolas! Look at her butt! It is so big....

... so your girlfriend rolls a Renault...
... playin' books on tape by Foucault...

YOU DO NOT MENTION FOUCAULT HERE!
*shudders* give me Wacquant any day.

Would all the grad students or former grad students in this thread please say "Aye".

Aye. Communication and sociology, thus enjoying this thread immensely.

Seconded. Soon to be grad student for cultural anthropology. Had to read The History of Sexuality Vol. 1 at least four times in undergrad. In anthro, though, I think his time is nearing an end as the go-to obscure high theorist of the moment.

Ima grad student. Reading a lot of Alastair MacIntyre these days. Read a bit of Foucault, mostly in relation to how he took up Nietzsche's "genealogical method" of the history of ideas, especially normative concepts like rationality, etc.

Foucault's not really that crazy, he calls attention to some important things. But, in a word, perspectivalism does not entail relativism.

I'm jealous, you guys all got to take fun classes. I was stuck doing as much math and science as I could before they kicked me out.

nomsumpisces: Seconded. Soon to be grad student for cultural anthropology. Had to read The History of Sexuality Vol. 1 at least four times in undergrad. In anthro, though, I think his time is nearing an end as the go-to obscure high theorist of the moment.

My hat's off to you. I want to tackle The Order of Things one of these days, but most people I know who've read Foucault have found it quite the challenge, and I am not the best reader. Of course, I have a friend who has been reading Hegel and Heidegger all summer, so maybe I don't know the sanest people. I'm planning to do my Ph.D. in media studies, focusing on popular culture, critical theory, and political communication/ movements.

Structuralism and post-structuralism are falling by the wayside in sociology. Conflict theory is becoming the new paradigm. Strangely, I had this same conversation with colleagues while drunk a couple of nights ago.

Gato Negro: buzzvert: When the Freeptastic right-wingery is reduced to trying to infer something from a photo... you know that they have nothing left.


There's nothing to infer. Facts are facts.

The facts are this: On a world stage, with cameras rolling, the current U.S. President gave a lustful, longing and demeaning glance to the buttocks of an under-aged girl; his desire to mount her being painfully obvious to Kenya and the world.

Man up , Nancy. You'll get over it.
You need to come out.

Republicans apparently stop emotionally maturing at around 12 years old. Same with Christians. This country is up to it's ass in retards.

El Robbo: technicolor-misfit: My god, you pack of delicate little pussies.

The funniest thing is they try to be both so morally shocked and outraged, AND scary hard-core redneck klansmen.

I do not get that.

It's a reasonably well-documented phenomenon, worked out and named back in the late 1940s.

EL_FABREZ: Gato Negro: Two things:

1) He's the President of the United States (Unbelievably). Until Slick Willy Thomas Jefferson destroyed the dignity of the office, that title used to mean something.

2) She's only SEVENTEEN a slave. The girl is 17 a f*cking years old slave.

FTFY

There's no proof that Thomas Jefferson ever had sex with a slave the only thing proved is someone from his family, Brother, Son or Uncle did.

Uchiha_Cycliste: I'm jealous, you guys all got to take fun classes. I was stuck doing as much math and science as I could before they kicked me out.

Meh, applied skills in sociology made me damn near suicidal. It was the complete opposite of fun, and if it makes you feel better, I have to take applied statistics and data analysis this coming semester. That won't be fun, either.

RIP FOUCAULT'S PENDULUM,2009.

SneakyBackdoorNutSucker: Most people seem to forget that in the Bush ass photo the gal had asked him if he wanted to slap her ass as a victory celebration.

I have no point to make - it just seemed that people forgot the story behind (heh) that photo.

Um... that was part of the point of posting it.

Can all of us Americans agree, as a society, that we should probably keep our President away from the childrens now?

Let us agree on that, please, for the love of Christ.

Uchiha_Cycliste: I'm jealous, you guys all got to take fun classes. I was stuck doing as much math and science as I could before they kicked me out.

Yeah but you probably don't work at starbucks

vertiaset: Just think through out history a man as powerful as Obama could have beautiful young women as a perk of the job. Today, he catches hell just for looking. Any man with red blood in his veins would have looked at that young woman, she was very pretty.

I'd be more worried if he DIDN'T look.

/shows he's human

Plate of Crazy: nomsumpisces: Seconded. Soon to be grad student for cultural anthropology. Had to read The History of Sexuality Vol. 1 at least four times in undergrad. In anthro, though, I think his time is nearing an end as the go-to obscure high theorist of the moment.

My hat's off to you. I want to tackle The Order of Things one of these days, but most people I know who've read Foucault have found it quite the challenge, and I am not the best reader. Of course, I have a friend who has been reading Hegel and Heidegger all summer, so maybe I don't know the sanest people. I'm planning to do my Ph.D. in media studies, focusing on popular culture, critical theory, and political communication/ movements.

Structuralism and post-structuralism are falling by the wayside in sociology. Conflict theory is becoming the new paradigm. Strangely, I had this same conversation with colleagues while drunk a couple of nights ago.

I saw that too when I was in school (was a sociology grad student). I liked critical theory myself. I would have liked to go on to popular culture studies or gerontology, but needed a break from school. Maybe someday!

/threadjack

Noam Chimpsky: Can all of us Americans agree, as a society, that we should probably keep our President away from the childrens now?

Let us agree on that, please, for the love of Christ.

I get a sneaking feeling that it's a lot more important to keep YOU away from children. There's something kind of unwholesome about you. Like a homosexual, sheep-killing dog.

Regullus: IRT SFlaxx - That's why I said "apparently," in the photo it looks like he's gawking idiotically, on film, maybe not. If he did gawk like that than he or any man or woman in their forties, regardless of their educational level should be capable of a little more discretion.

I am glad you are aware how you look to others, and what you may be looking at all times to anyone around you, should a photo be taken of you.

If anyone had a photo of every move of their public life it will happen.

How many tabloids have posted photo's of awkward moments in someones life only to skew it to their own personal agenda.
Why is this photo different?

Plate of Crazy: Uchiha_Cycliste: I'm jealous, you guys all got to take fun classes. I was stuck doing as much math and science as I could before they kicked me out.

Meh, applied skills in sociology made me damn near suicidal. It was the complete opposite of fun, and if it makes you feel better, I have to take applied statistics and data analysis this coming semester. That won't be fun, either.

It wasn't Emile Durkheim's fault was it? ;)
I failed many classes b/c of injuries, illness and my hearing, so I didn't have time to have fun. Also my program kicks you out after 8 semesters, though you can petition for a 9th if you have a REALLY damn good excuse. Enjoy stat. They started us with Multi variable Calculus, then Linear Algebra and difEQ/BVP, and finally Discrete Mathematics and Probability Theory. It was assumed you'd start with multi-var calc =/.

tweekster: Uchiha_Cycliste: I'm jealous, you guys all got to take fun classes. I was stuck doing as much math and science as I could before they kicked me out.

Yeah but you probably don't work at starbucks

I don't spend my day looking at pretty girls either. Actually, any girls for that matter.

I don't care what you hyprocrites say, my approval of him just went up!

I'm pretty sure those IN THE CLOSET republicans are raising hell over this. LOL... But then again, I know of a few Republicans who can appreciate Obama's perspective of this ordeal...

Phoenix_M: EL_FABREZ: Gato Negro: Two things:

1) He's the President of the United States (Unbelievably). Until Slick Willy Thomas Jefferson destroyed the dignity of the office, that title used to mean something.

2) She's only SEVENTEEN a slave. The girl is 17 a f*cking years old slave.

FTFY

There's no proof that Thomas Jefferson ever had sex with a slave the only thing proved is someone from his family, Brother, Son or Uncle did.

In this day and age, facts dont mean shiat. Just say it enough times, with enough confidence, and then it's all good.

That's why Obama got elected anyway. It has nothing to do with his actual cred, just his persona and his electability. America got played yo. They all bought up the Pepsi like it wasn't basically a slight variation on the Coke.

He got elected because of "hope and change" buzzwords.


Oh, by the way, if anyone wants to read up on Foucault, I suggest "The Philosophy of Foucault" by Todd May. I haven't read it, but I read parts, and Todd May is an excellent philosopher. Clear like an analytic, but not afraid of terms like Dasein and doesn't think of Camus as "just a novelist"

review of the book in question

Plate of Crazy: Uchiha_Cycliste: I'm jealous, you guys all got to take fun classes. I was stuck doing as much math and science as I could before they kicked me out.

Meh, applied skills in sociology made me damn near suicidal. It was the complete opposite of fun, and if it makes you feel better, I have to take applied statistics and data analysis this coming semester. That won't be fun, either.

What sucks is that the ones in my cohort who got their MS in applied soc got all the jobs, and those of us who took the MA route didn't, well, not sociology related jobs anyway.

Yeah, just a little bitter ;)

I can't stand Obama, I think he's a useless twit.
nuff said

however...

He's a guy, and he's just doing what a guy does.
This doesn't remotely bother me.
I want to say something about being more careful with all the cameras around
but he's constantly surrounded by cameras.

And if you take a long look at who he's supposed to rut with until the day he dies,
then this will make more sense to you.

I don't give a shiat what the obamazombies have been saying since he started on the campaign trail,
his wife is fugly

Bhasayate: Ima grad student. Reading a lot of Alastair MacIntyre these days. Read a bit of Foucault, mostly in relation to how he took up Nietzsche's "genealogical method" of the history of ideas, especially normative concepts like rationality, etc.

Foucault's not really that crazy, he calls attention to some important things. But, in a word, perspectivalism does not entail relativism.

Seriously, Carla Bruni's ass didn't derail you? Freaking liberal arts majors...

sweeneytoad: Plate of Crazy: Uchiha_Cycliste: I'm jealous, you guys all got to take fun classes. I was stuck doing as much math and science as I could before they kicked me out.

Meh, applied skills in sociology made me damn near suicidal. It was the complete opposite of fun, and if it makes you feel better, I have to take applied statistics and data analysis this coming semester. That won't be fun, either.

What sucks is that the ones in my cohort who got their MS in applied soc got all the jobs, and those of us who took the MA route didn't, well, not sociology related jobs anyway.

Yeah, just a little bitter ;)

What DO sociologists do, outside of teach and law? Not condescending, genuinely curious.

Mentat: Bhasayate: Ima grad student. Reading a lot of Alastair MacIntyre these days. Read a bit of Foucault, mostly in relation to how he took up Nietzsche's "genealogical method" of the history of ideas, especially normative concepts like rationality, etc.

Foucault's not really that crazy, he calls attention to some important things. But, in a word, perspectivalism does not entail relativism.

Seriously, Carla Bruni's ass didn't derail you? Freaking liberal arts majors...

I don't know about Carla Bruni's ass. I didn't see it.

But I do know about Buridan's Ass.

Mentat: Seriously, Carla Bruni's ass didn't derail you?

Oh, yeah, I know Sarkozy had a hot wife, etc, but I didn't know her name.

I still don't care. She's kind of meh, compared to all the other asses out there.

Uchiha_Cycliste: It wasn't Emile Durkheim's fault was it? ;)

I almost didn't get this, so maybe I need to be thrown out myself.

I hope you can go back someday, if you want. That really sucks.

Bhasayate: Oh, by the way, if anyone wants to read up on Foucault, I suggest "The Philosophy of Foucault" by Todd May. I haven't read it, but I read parts, and Todd May is an excellent philosopher. Clear like an analytic, but not afraid of terms like Dasein and doesn't think of Camus as "just a novelist"

I'll keep an eye out for it. Thanks for the tip.

Uchiha_Cycliste: sweeneytoad: Plate of Crazy: Uchiha_Cycliste: I'm jealous, you guys all got to take fun classes. I was stuck doing as much math and science as I could before they kicked me out.

Meh, applied skills in sociology made me damn near suicidal. It was the complete opposite of fun, and if it makes you feel better, I have to take applied statistics and data analysis this coming semester. That won't be fun, either.

What sucks is that the ones in my cohort who got their MS in applied soc got all the jobs, and those of us who took the MA route didn't, well, not sociology related jobs anyway.

Yeah, just a little bitter ;)

What DO sociologists do, outside of teach and law? Not condescending, genuinely curious.

A couple of my friends got jobs working for non profits, some doing human resources or data/market analysis. One works for the state doing data analysis and another got a job doing research. I was an adjunct professor for a while but that dried up so now I work for Goodwill until I either go back to school or something better comes along.

Uchiha_Cycliste:

What DO sociologists do, outside of teach and law? Not condescending, genuinely curious.

Fark.

Berlusconi's all, TOO OLD

I'm going to disagree with nearly everyone in this thread. His eyelids are almost completely shut which would give him a very poor view. It looks more like he's looking at something on the ground, or even her shoe. But not what people are making it out to be.

The line of sight just doesn't work if you think about it.

Of course, I don't think I'm going to convince many people of this. If I could see his eyeballs and where they were pointed, I would be embarrassed for him. But since I can't see them through the lids, yeah, I totally disagree with this thread.

Plate of Crazy: I almost didn't get this, so maybe I need to be thrown out myself.

I hope you can go back someday, if you want. That really sucks.

Eventually I have to go back to Cal, or to Furd to get a PHD to achieve my career goals.I'm hoping to audit or take a whole slew of the classes I didn't have time for. I don't see any reason I couldn't sit in on one class a semester that was in soc, psych, philosophy or religious studies.

He's married not dead!

Now, that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!

A Tout Le Monde: I'm going to disagree with nearly everyone in this thread. His eyelids are almost completely shut which would give him a very poor view. It looks more like he's looking at something on the ground, or even her shoe. But not what people are making it out to be.

The line of sight just doesn't work if you think about it.

Of course, I don't think I'm going to convince many people of this. If I could see his eyeballs and where they were pointed, I would be embarrassed for him. But since I can't see them through the lids, yeah, I totally disagree with this thread.

STOP BEING RATIONAL

MOAR WARRAGBLE

otto the bull: natas6.0:

I don't give a shiat what the obamazombies have been saying since he started on the campaign trail,
his wife is fugly



What makes you think that?

I'd take her back and get another one.

SFSailor: Uchiha_Cycliste: SFSailor: Elzar: Oh my God, Nicolas! Look at her butt! It is so big....

... so your girlfriend rolls a Renault...
... playin' books on tape by Foucault...

YOU DO NOT MENTION FOUCAULT HERE!
*shudders* give me Wacquant any day.

Come on now, how many French names can you^ come up with that rhyme with the name of a French car company?

Sheesh!

* Where, of course, "you" is defined as "my drunk and dumb ass having failed to find a rhyme for Citroen in 5 seconds of trying"

Peugeot - Bordieu?
Renault - Foucault, de Certeau?
Honda - Lacan-da

/Got nothin

sweeneytoad: Uchiha_Cycliste: sweeneytoad: Plate of Crazy: Uchiha_Cycliste: I'm jealous, you guys all got to take fun classes. I was stuck doing as much math and science as I could before they kicked me out.

Meh, applied skills in sociology made me damn near suicidal. It was the complete opposite of fun, and if it makes you feel better, I have to take applied statistics and data analysis this coming semester. That won't be fun, either.

What sucks is that the ones in my cohort who got their MS in applied soc got all the jobs, and those of us who took the MA route didn't, well, not sociology related jobs anyway.

Yeah, just a little bitter ;)

What DO sociologists do, outside of teach and law? Not condescending, genuinely curious.

A couple of my friends got jobs working for non profits, some doing human resources or data/market analysis. One works for the state doing data analysis and another got a job doing research. I was an adjunct professor for a while but that dried up so now I work for Goodwill until I either go back to school or something better comes along.

Is Hr for a non-profit the same as Hr for an engineering company?
Does the data/market analysis require using the skills you learned with respect to human interaction and society, or the skills you picked up necessarily from statistics to understand and deconstruct collected data?

pvd021: I'm pretty sure those IN THE CLOSET republicans are raising hell over this. LOL... But then again, I know of a few Republicans who can appreciate Obama's perspective of this ordeal...

Obama was trying to act all hetero without having an understanding of what a heterosexual leader of a country would do in his situation.

I think the Euro leaders might have punked him into it though. They are all laughing about how they punked the gay American President into acting sexual about the young girl. I'm more pissed at the euros for making a mockery of our gay American President than at Obama himself.

I'm surprised by the number of gheys who outed themselves in this thread

FarkinNortherner: dj_bigbird: Who is s

Pretty damn good:



17 year old Brazilian Junior G8 delegate Mayara Tavares.

/takes a seat over there
//next to the President

Hey, Obama, why don't you just have a seat over there.....?

technicolor-misfit: Egalitarian - Oh come on, there's a "teacher screwing a student" thread on Fark almost every day, and most of you guys high-five each other if the chick is hot. It's only if the teacher was fat/old/ugly that you're disgusted.


Not me... In fact, I quit going into those threads at all because I got tired of arguing with the "it's different for boys" idiots.

I agree, it's totally the same for girls.

I disagree, however, that 16 year old males and females are incapable of making the decision about who they want to fark. Somehow most of the 1st world manages to go down to 14 years old for age of consent and hasn't turned into a bastion of non-stop teenager rape by 60 year olds orgy.

/you apparently didn't know the girls I knew in high school