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Meowsertd [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 05:12:42 PM  
Sure sure kick a state when its down

 
benlonghair [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 05:23:08 PM  
FTFA: "...an Oakland trade school that trains students to grow medical marijuana."

God bless California.

Me, I think decriminalization is a good idea. So much more cost effective than throwing people in jail.

 
NeauxFear [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 05:32:56 PM  
Well, it may bring in a few million in tax revenue, but it's not going to even touch the current deficit. That said, it can't hurt.

 
Cagey B [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 06:46:54 PM  
Decriminalize it. And then add cocaine, speed and all opiates to the list.

I will then personally volunteer to go around in a grizzly bear costume and jab people with needles full of black tar heroin. Watch the tax revenues pour in, baby.

 
johnsoninca [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 07:01:36 PM  
Never let a crisis go to waste...

 
El Chode [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 07:02:21 PM  
OMG CARL SAGAN

just getting that out of the way

 
TheGreatZarquon 2009-07-08 07:35:13 PM  
Pot is- safer than booze, impossible to overdose on, has positive health benefits, makes everything taste AWESOME, makes boring movies hilarious, makes bowling the most interesting sport you have ever played, facilitates creative thinking when thought is applied to problems that will never, ever happen, is growable at home and therefore semi-free, and if taxed could bring California billions of dollars.

Pot is not- safe to use while driving or using power tools, not good for kids, a replacement for every medicine in your cabinet, a gateway drug, a replacement for actually using your brain, a dangerous substance.

Now, let's talk legalization.

 
El Chode [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 07:45:09 PM  
TheGreatZarquon: Pot is- safer than booze, impossible to overdose on, has positive health benefits, makes everything taste AWESOME, makes boring movies hilarious, makes bowling the most interesting sport you have ever played, facilitates creative thinking when thought is applied to problems that will never, ever happen, is growable at home and therefore semi-free, and if taxed could bring California billions of dollars.

Pot is not- safe to use while driving or using power tools, not good for kids, a replacement for every medicine in your cabinet, a gateway drug, a replacement for actually using your brain, a dangerous substance.

Now, let's talk legalization.


Don't forget "great when you need to write an essay because you just ramble incessently about one topic and worry about whether or not it makes sense the next morning"

 
TheGreatZarquon 2009-07-08 08:07:04 PM  
El Chode: TheGreatZarquon: Pot is- safer than booze, impossible to overdose on, has positive health benefits, makes everything taste AWESOME, makes boring movies hilarious, makes bowling the most interesting sport you have ever played, facilitates creative thinking when thought is applied to problems that will never, ever happen, is growable at home and therefore semi-free, and if taxed could bring California billions of dollars.

Pot is not- safe to use while driving or using power tools, not good for kids, a replacement for every medicine in your cabinet, a gateway drug, a replacement for actually using your brain, a dangerous substance.

Now, let's talk legalization.

Don't forget "great when you need to write an essay because you just ramble incessently about one topic and worry about whether or not it makes sense the next morning"


Ah, I see you read my essay on surrealist art.


/it was a final about a year ago
//scored 250/250

 
Anhydrous Dihydrogen Monoxide 2009-07-08 08:09:28 PM  
Bet this is opposed by the prison unions. After all, this would cut down on a lot of their work.

/not really trying to troll

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-08 08:10:50 PM  
I don't care what reasoning is used, just legalize it and be done with it

 
Dont Call Me Shirley 2009-07-08 08:10:58 PM  
freakin stoners... go eat your mayonaise sandwiches

 
Antimatter 2009-07-08 08:12:41 PM  
TheGreatZarquon: El Chode: TheGreatZarquon: Pot is- safer than booze, impossible to overdose on, has positive health benefits, makes everything taste AWESOME, makes boring movies hilarious, makes bowling the most interesting sport you have ever played, facilitates creative thinking when thought is applied to problems that will never, ever happen, is growable at home and therefore semi-free, and if taxed could bring California billions of dollars.

Pot is not- safe to use while driving or using power tools, not good for kids, a replacement for every medicine in your cabinet, a gateway drug, a replacement for actually using your brain, a dangerous substance.

Now, let's talk legalization.

Don't forget "great when you need to write an essay because you just ramble incessently about one topic and worry about whether or not it makes sense the next morning"

Ah, I see you read my essay on surrealist art.


/it was a final about a year ago
//scored 250/250


It was a bit hard to read, seeing as you tattooed it on the side of a pig wearing groucho marx glasses.

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-08 08:13:10 PM  
Dont Call Me Shirley: freakin stoners... go eat your mayonaise sandwiches

That's mayo and Bacon Bits. Hmmmmf!

 
El Chode [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 08:13:30 PM  
TheGreatZarquon: El Chode: TheGreatZarquon: Pot is- safer than booze, impossible to overdose on, has positive health benefits, makes everything taste AWESOME, makes boring movies hilarious, makes bowling the most interesting sport you have ever played, facilitates creative thinking when thought is applied to problems that will never, ever happen, is growable at home and therefore semi-free, and if taxed could bring California billions of dollars.

Pot is not- safe to use while driving or using power tools, not good for kids, a replacement for every medicine in your cabinet, a gateway drug, a replacement for actually using your brain, a dangerous substance.

Now, let's talk legalization.

Don't forget "great when you need to write an essay because you just ramble incessently about one topic and worry about whether or not it makes sense the next morning"

Ah, I see you read my essay on surrealist art.


/it was a final about a year ago
//scored 250/250


Yes, well, us Philosophy majors are well read if nothing else.

 
Need_MindBleach 2009-07-08 08:14:09 PM  
There's no sane, non-religious reason to oppose legalization of pot. It's less dangerous than alcohol, and anyone who wants to smoke it is already doing so.

/does not smoke pot

 
UNC_Samurai [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 08:14:39 PM  
Anhydrous Dihydrogen Monoxide: Bet this is opposed by the prison unions. After all, this would cut down on a lot of their work.

/not really trying to troll


Considering the scandal in PA where the judge was getting kickbacks for sending people to prison, I wouldn't be surprised if Big Incarceration is just as against drug legalization as panicked and reactionary politicians.

 
jaerik 2009-07-08 08:15:03 PM  
I'm all for legalizing it, but I've also noticed no one's debated what to do with all the people in California jails convicted of marijuana possession charges.

Do we release them early, with our apologies? Would certainly save us an assload of money...

The prison guard union (one of the most powerful political lobbies in our state, along with the teacher's union) would never go for that.

 
Roger Arseways 2009-07-08 08:15:53 PM  
Pot is a gateway drug because the guy who you have to go to for it can just as easily get any number of harder drugs.

Potheads don't like being criminals. I've got the CA "weed card" and am so glad that I don't need to go buy off the street any more. It's as legal as it needs to be right now to be perfectly honest, California needs to drop the whole "doctor's recommendation" facade. There are dispensaries everywhere in my neighborhood in LA, too -- at least 5 within a mile's radius. Don't know how many will survive but still, this is big business and can solve a lot of problems. I'm so glad I haven't had to "make a call" in a long time. I have choice as a consumer.

 
m2313 2009-07-08 08:16:20 PM  
That's a pipe dream.Just what we need.Less functional members of society.Do you potheads have anything to show it's not all smoke and mirrors?I think it's time you guys packed it in.Hell, I guess we should just legalize heroin then.We need to plant functional seeds in this society, not based on drugs, but on less government waste in spending.If you want legal drugs find another country to go to.Keep drugs out of my America.

 
CaptSacto 2009-07-08 08:18:42 PM  
TheGreatZarquon: Pot is- safer than booze, impossible to overdose on, has positive health benefits, makes everything taste AWESOME, makes boring movies hilarious, makes bowling the most interesting sport you have ever played, facilitates creative thinking when thought is applied to problems that will never, ever happen, is growable at home and therefore semi-free, and if taxed could bring California billions of dollars.

Pot is not- safe to use while driving or using power tools, not good for kids, a replacement for every medicine in your cabinet, a gateway drug, a replacement for actually using your brain, a dangerous substance.

Now, let's talk legalization.


THIS

 
Roger Arseways 2009-07-08 08:19:32 PM  
m2313: That's a pipe dream.Just what we need.Less functional members of society.Do you potheads have anything to show it's not all smoke and mirrors?I think it's time you guys packed it in.Hell, I guess we should just legalize heroin then.We need to plant functional seeds in this society, not based on drugs, but on less government waste in spending.If you want legal drugs find another country to go to.Keep drugs out of my America.

Do you live in California? If so, vote no when this is put up on some sort of retarded ballot prop. If not, then STFU.

//I'd be very surprised if Kansas ever legalizes it.

 
fatassbastard [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 08:20:21 PM  
m2313: That's a pipe dream.Just what we need.Less functional members of society.Do you potheads have anything to show it's not all smoke and mirrors?I think it's time you guys packed it in.Hell, I guess we should just legalize heroin then.We need to plant functional seeds in this society, not based on drugs, but on less government waste in spending.If you want legal drugs find another country to go to.Keep drugs out of my America.

Even though it's so obvious, AND I'm pointing out how obvious it is, you'll probably still get a couple of bites. :)

 
Solty Dog 2009-07-08 08:23:27 PM  
Chicks cannot hold dere smoke. That's what it is.

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-08 08:24:03 PM  
m2313: That's a pipe dream.Just what we need.Less functional members of society.Do you potheads have anything to show it's not all smoke and mirrors?I think it's time you guys packed it in.Hell, I guess we should just legalize heroin then.We need to plant functional seeds in this society, not based on drugs, but on less government waste in spending.If you want legal drugs find another country to go to.Keep drugs out of my America.

Heh, this country was founded on hemp. The Constitution and Declaration of Independence was written on hemp. Homespun clothing was made from hemp. Rope and sailcloth, all hemp. George Washington and many founding fathers grew hemp extensively.

 
moifee 2009-07-08 08:24:57 PM  
m2313: That's a pipe dream.Just what we need.Less functional members of society.Do you potheads have anything to show it's not all smoke and mirrors?I think it's time you guys packed it in.Hell, I guess we should just legalize heroin then.We need to plant functional seeds in this society, not based on drugs, but on less government waste in spending.If you want legal drugs find another country to go to.Keep drugs out of my America.

Best. Troll. Evar.

 
Need_MindBleach 2009-07-08 08:26:22 PM  
m2313: That's a pipe dream.Just what we need.Less functional members of society.Do you potheads have anything to show it's not all smoke and mirrors?I think it's time you guys packed it in.Hell, I guess we should just legalize heroin then.We need to plant functional seeds in this society, not based on drugs, but on less government waste in spending.If you want legal drugs find another country to go to.Keep drugs out of my America.

Is that it?

 
Kittypie070 2009-07-08 08:26:59 PM  
"Prison industry."

Roll that around in your head for a few minutes.
Yeah, I already know about the unions.

"PRISON...INDUSTRY."

Go on, keep rolling it around!!

"PRISON...INDUSTRY."

Have you ever heard anything more f*cking terrifying!?

\damn it, it's worse than "Human Resources"!

\\what is that SMELL!?

 
Hagbardr [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 08:29:15 PM  
Need_MindBleach: m2313: That's a pipe dream.Just what we need.Less functional members of society.Do you potheads have anything to show it's not all smoke and mirrors?I think it's time you guys packed it in.Hell, I guess we should just legalize heroin then.We need to plant functional seeds in this society, not based on drugs, but on less government waste in spending.If you want legal drugs find another country to go to.Keep drugs out of my America.

Is that it?


Missed one.

 
drjekel_mrhyde 2009-07-08 08:30:10 PM  
I don't smoke it but I say legalize it

 
Fuller 2009-07-08 08:31:04 PM  
I like where that state is heading...

Actually I have (very rough) plans to visit the US in around a year or so, I would love to see this come through by the time I get there. It would make the first leg of the trip a lot more fun, at the least. It would also be interesting to see the cultural impact from an outsiders point of view.

 
SharkTrager 2009-07-08 08:33:24 PM  
jaerik: I'm all for legalizing it, but I've also noticed no one's debated what to do with all the people in California jails convicted of marijuana possession charges.

Do we release them early, with our apologies? Would certainly save us an assload of money...

The prison guard union (one of the most powerful political lobbies in our state, along with the teacher's union) would never go for that.


Given some of the teachers I've known, that is one union that should be seriously pro-legalization.

/yes, I do know why you are being nice and just confiscating my weed and not turning me in
//ok, not MY weed, as I have never owned any weed, but the weed in question

 
TheGreatZarquon 2009-07-08 08:33:52 PM  
LittleSmitty: Heh, this country was founded on hemp. The Constitution and Declaration of Independence was written on hemp. Homespun clothing was made from hemp. Rope and sailcloth, all hemp. George Washington and many founding fathers grew hemp extensively.

i4.photobucket.com

"Absolutely, George toked weed. Are you kidding me, man, he grew FIELDS of that stuff. That's what I'm talkin' about."

"He grew that shiat up Mount Vernon, man..."

"Mount Vernon, man, he grew it all over the country. He had people growing it ALL over the country, you know, the whole country back then was gettin' high, man. Cuz...cuz he knew he was on to somethin', man, he knew that it would be a good cash crop for the southern states, man. So he grew fields of it, man."

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-08 08:36:17 PM  
TheGreatZarquon: LittleSmitty: Heh, this country was founded on hemp. The Constitution and Declaration of Independence was written on hemp. Homespun clothing was made from hemp. Rope and sailcloth, all hemp. George Washington and many founding fathers grew hemp extensively.



"Absolutely, George toked weed. Are you kidding me, man, he grew FIELDS of that stuff. That's what I'm talkin' about."

"He grew that shiat up Mount Vernon, man..."

"Mount Vernon, man, he grew it all over the country. He had people growing it ALL over the country, you know, the whole country back then was gettin' high, man. Cuz...cuz he knew he was on to somethin', man, he knew that it would be a good cash crop for the southern states, man. So he grew fields of it, man."


niiiice

 
zymosan [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 08:37:38 PM  
Other then the direct tax benefits you would get by selling it, the state would also receive taxes from all the business that opened because of it. Restaurants, cafes, head shops, herbal place, etc. It would stimulate the economy by creating jobs for which people would pay income tax.

It would probably also ease border tensions to a degree.

The reasons for legalization far out way the caveats.

/not a smoker
//Ya'RLY

 
snotbox17 2009-07-08 08:39:30 PM  
LittleSmitty:
Heh, this country was founded on hemp. The Constitution and Declaration of Independence was written on hemp. Homespun clothing was made from hemp. Rope and sailcloth, all hemp. George Washington and many founding fathers grew hemp extensively.

Martha Washington was a hip, hip lady...

/eating a plate of bean dip right now
//so I'm really getting a kick...etc

 
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier 2009-07-08 08:41:54 PM  
We need a spokesperson for the pot movement, somebody with a common enough name to show the world we mean business. A name like "Dave" would do just the trick. But he's not here, man.

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-08 08:42:34 PM  
snotbox17: LittleSmitty:
Heh, this country was founded on hemp. The Constitution and Declaration of Independence was written on hemp. Homespun clothing was made from hemp. Rope and sailcloth, all hemp. George Washington and many founding fathers grew hemp extensively.

Martha Washington was a hip, hip lady...

/eating a plate of bean dip right now
//so I'm really getting a kick...etc


Damn, now I want bean dip too!

 
Hagbardr [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 08:42:38 PM  

 
Nick Nostril 2009-07-08 08:42:48 PM  
Just legalize the shiat already.

/not a user, wouldn't be if they legalized it

 
Fling 2009-07-08 08:42:50 PM  
LittleSmitty: m2313: That's a pipe dream.Just what we need.Less functional members of society.Do you potheads have anything to show it's not all smoke and mirrors?I think it's time you guys packed it in.Hell, I guess we should just legalize heroin then.We need to plant functional seeds in this society, not based on drugs, but on less government waste in spending.If you want legal drugs find another country to go to.Keep drugs out of my America.

Heh, this country was founded on hemp. The Constitution and Declaration of Independence was written on hemp. Homespun clothing was made from hemp. Rope and sailcloth, all hemp. George Washington and many founding fathers grew hemp extensively.


The root word of canvas is canibus

 
Need_MindBleach 2009-07-08 08:42:59 PM  
zymosan: Other then the direct tax benefits you would get by selling it, the state would also receive taxes from all the business that opened because of it. Restaurants, cafes, head shops, herbal place, etc. It would stimulate the economy by creating jobs for which people would pay income tax.

It would probably also ease border tensions to a degree.

The reasons for legalization far out way the caveats.

/not a smoker
//Ya'RLY


I think it's hilarious how the drug warriors always find it inconceivable that someone who doesn't smoke pot would support decriminalization. "60% of the people of Massachusetts are potheads!"

 
tolallorti 2009-07-08 08:47:00 PM  
Just putting this out there but Mr.Ron Paul is trying to pass a bill through the house legalizing marijuana on the federal level.

Link (new window)

If your rep. is on either of the committees debating this you can at least send him/her a letter stating your opinion on the matter.

 
PirateFreedom 2009-07-08 08:52:14 PM  
The slow torturous drip, drip, drip of common sense.

Will it finally wear down the rock of self righteous ignorance and hysteria?

Imagine all that money saved by not turning tax payers into prisoners, that might be worth more than the tax revenues.

 
Sublime_Influence 2009-07-08 08:53:12 PM  
Guess what john lennon, michael phelps, and barack obama all have in common? THEY ALL SMOKED WEED!!

 
davynelson 2009-07-08 08:54:07 PM  
you don't just decriminalize it if you wanna make money
and end up with a debt-free state

YOU LEGALIZE IT


there's your cash cow baby!
tax on the snax!!


xxx

 
LittleSmitty 2009-07-08 08:55:23 PM  
tolallorti: Just putting this out there but Mr.Ron Paul is trying to pass a bill through the house legalizing marijuana on the federal level.

Link (new window)

If your rep. is on either of the committees debating this you can at least send him/her a letter stating your opinion on the matter.


Since when do we confuse Barney Frank with Ron Paul? I know both are nuttier than squirrel turds, but that bill was introduced by Barney Frank

 
TastyEloi 2009-07-08 08:55:40 PM  
TheGreatZarquon: Pot is- safer than booze, impossible to overdose on, has positive health benefits, makes everything taste AWESOME, makes boring movies hilarious, makes bowling the most interesting sport you have ever played, facilitates creative thinking when thought is applied to problems that will never, ever happen, is growable at home and therefore semi-free, and if taxed could bring California billions of dollars.

Pot is not- safe to use while driving or using power tools, not good for kids, a replacement for every medicine in your cabinet, a gateway drug, a replacement for actually using your brain, a dangerous substance.

Now, let's talk legalization.


Why does this sound like it came out of a Spider Robinson novel?

 
PirateFreedom 2009-07-08 08:58:01 PM  
TastyEloi: TheGreatZarquon: Pot is- safer than booze, impossible to overdose on, has positive health benefits, makes everything taste AWESOME, makes boring movies hilarious, makes bowling the most interesting sport you have ever played, facilitates creative thinking when thought is applied to problems that will never, ever happen, is growable at home and therefore semi-free, and if taxed could bring California billions of dollars.

Pot is not- safe to use while driving or using power tools, not good for kids, a replacement for every medicine in your cabinet, a gateway drug, a replacement for actually using your brain, a dangerous substance.

Now, let's talk legalization.

Why does this sound like it came out of a Spider Robinson novel?


It doesn't, if it had a section talking about how the government suppresses research showing stoned people are better drivers, then it would sound like Spider Robinson.

 
Hagbardr [TotalFark] 2009-07-08 08:59:54 PM  
davynelson: there's your cash cow baby!
tax on the snax!!


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Awwww yeah!

 
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