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MugzyBrown [TotalFark] 2009-07-06 03:52:13 PM  
They also banned my skull-fark the virgin mary app, but you didn't see me get a greenlight out of it.

 
olapbill 2009-07-06 03:52:17 PM  
can I keep my "me so horny" app that inserts my face on to various hot asian chick bodies?

 
MugzyBrown [TotalFark] 2009-07-06 03:52:57 PM  
olapbill: can I keep my "me so horny" app that inserts my face dick on in to various hot asian chick bodies?


Yes you can

 
icanhazstapler [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-06 03:58:06 PM  
Once again Apple shows its holier-than-thou attitude toward indy apps.

 
olapbill 2009-07-06 04:05:15 PM  
MugzyBrown: olapbill: can I keep my "me so horny" app that inserts my face dick on in to various hot asian chick bodies?

sweet. and thanks for FTFM
Yes you can

 
geekluv [TotalFark] 2009-07-06 04:16:30 PM  
olapbill: can I keep my "me so horny" app that inserts my face on to various hot asian Hungarian chick bodies?


FTFY

 
Oakenshield 2009-07-06 04:17:18 PM  
s

 
Bacontastesgood 2009-07-06 04:19:39 PM  
olapbill: can I keep my "me so horny" app that inserts my face on to various hot asian chick bodies?

/clicks profile.

Dammit.

 
strothgar 2009-07-06 04:24:19 PM  
I don't purchase apple products because I don't appreciate the weird way things hijack my PC when I plug them in.

I was born before 1990 and have gone to college so I can speak with some authority on the subject.

I prefer sansa myself.

 
Arkanaut 2009-07-06 04:25:20 PM  
What about the "me so holey" app that gives you stigmata?

 
strothgar 2009-07-06 04:30:58 PM  
Arkanaut: What about the "me so holey" app that gives you stigmata?

I'd see a doctor. One time I caught that, hurt like hell to piss for a month.

 
AnubisMan 2009-07-06 04:34:37 PM  
Apple bans "me so holy app" that insert your face on Jesus' body

Apple approves new app that inserts Steve Jobs face on Jesus' body

 
degreeless 2009-07-06 04:37:17 PM  
AnubisMan: Apple bans "me so holy app" that insert your face on Jesus' body

Apple approves new app that inserts Steve Jobs face on Jesus' body


Wonder how that Chinese liver he bought is workin' out for him? Do you think it came bundled with Quicktime and Safari?

 
Modest Proposal 2009-07-06 04:37:24 PM  
eqtworld: If Microsoft banned you from running programs on their PCs based on religion..

you fanboys would have a field day


Pretty much this.

 
impaler [TotalFark] 2009-07-06 04:38:16 PM  
I love how things like this are considered controversial because they upset religious folks that think they are blasphemous, and then when they get denied, other religious folks claim discrimination.

Always the victim.

 
skybreaker 2009-07-06 04:43:08 PM  
eqtworld: If Microsoft banned you from running programs on their PCs based on religion..

you fanboys would have a field day


if ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a wonderful christmas.

 
DjangoStonereaver [TotalFark] 2009-07-06 04:46:28 PM  
Bbbut, this is teh FREE MARKET in action!

 
210Khamen 2009-07-06 04:56:31 PM  
It is a free market. Just because Apple makes a distinction as to what apps it allows in iTunes does NOT mean you can't still get those apps somewhere else.

Picture it like Wal-mart. They are a huge store, they make decisions as to what you can buy in that store. They don't allow controversial things in the store. You can still get those controversial things elsewhere.

 
xellas84 2009-07-06 05:00:01 PM  
impaler: I love how things like this are considered controversial because they upset religious folks that think they are blasphemous, and then when they get denied, other religious folks claim discrimination.

Always the victim.


From the article:
"An iPhone app called "Me So Holy," that allowed you take a face shot and insert it into a portrait of Jesus or some other religious figure, has been rejected by Apple's tasterati."

By this indication, it looks like it's not just Christianity that's affected. In Christianity, it's a tasteless but not particularly profane thing to mix your picture with Jesus'. In Islam, it is VERY profane to mix a picture with Muhammed's (remember the Danish newspaper mess?). The rules they stated are pretty clear in the TOS, if it's considered obscene or profane by a large number of users, they'll yank it. I doubt it had as much to do with religious people biatching as them just wanting to head off an A-class explosion of farktardery.

/I probably screwed up Muhammed's name horribly
//Don't particularly care either.
///Slashies make it all better!

 
obtanium666 2009-07-06 05:29:08 PM  
Modest Proposal: eqtworld: If Microsoft banned you from running programs on their PCs based on religion..

you fanboys would have a field day

Pretty much this.


Lol. Steve Jobs is the Apple Pope?

/HTC ANYTHING FTW

 
olapbill 2009-07-06 05:49:59 PM  
darrent83: olapbill: can I keep my "me so horny" app that inserts my face on to various hot asian chick bodies?

After looking at your profile and picturing that I think I'm going to have to break into the barley wine early today.

/Bigfoot Ale FTW


jeezus guys. is not a mans love for his ipod combined with narcissism and a kogal fetish a sacred thing?

 
jso2897 2009-07-06 05:51:00 PM  
eqtworld: If Microsoft banned you from running programs on their PCs based on religion..

you fanboys would have a field day


Damn right. I like my religious experiences one at a time, and Mac itself is all the religion I can take in one sitting.

 
geekluv [TotalFark] 2009-07-06 05:55:21 PM  
olapbill: can I keep my "me so horny" app that inserts my face on to various hot asian chick bodies?

suckie suckie 5 dollar

me luv you long time

 
Ant 2009-07-06 05:57:35 PM  
I wonder if the Android Market would ban it too...

 
rpm 2009-07-06 06:03:18 PM  
210Khamen: Picture it like Wal-mart. They are a huge store, they make decisions as to what you can buy in that store. They don't allow controversial things in the store. You can still get those controversial things elsewhere.

Kindly point to where you can get this app with a stock iPhone.

 
olapbill 2009-07-06 06:07:15 PM  
darrent83: olapbill: darrent83: olapbill: can I keep my "me so horny" app that inserts my face on to various hot asian chick bodies?

After looking at your profile and picturing that I think I'm going to have to break into the barley wine early today.

/Bigfoot Ale FTW

jeezus guys. is not a mans love for his ipod combined with narcissism and a kogal fetish a sacred thing?

Not when it makes me mentally picture your face on a hot asian chick's body.


well I do apologize for taking you to that point, I suppose.
I'll send you some Lagavulin. That should burn out the evil pictures from your brain.

 
WayToBlue 2009-07-06 06:18:48 PM  
210Khamen

It is a free market. Just because Apple makes a distinction as to what apps it allows in iTunes does NOT mean you can't still get those apps somewhere else.

Picture it like Wal-mart. They are a huge store, they make decisions as to what you can buy in that store. They don't allow controversial things in the store. You can still get those controversial things elsewhere.


I am not aware of any legal/supported way to load apps on an iPhone without going through their store. If you have one, let me know.

 
INTERTRON 2009-07-06 06:38:10 PM  
olapbill: can I keep my "me so horny" app that inserts my face on to various hot asian chick bodies?

Thank you, olapbill. That was the joke.

 
Thorak [TotalFark] 2009-07-06 06:43:13 PM  
rpm: Kindly point to where you can get this app with a stock iPhone.

WayToBlue: I am not aware of any legal/supported way to load apps on an iPhone without going through their store. If you have one, let me know.

Let me know when it's an iPhone you absolutely need to have as your cell phone.

Don't like their policy on apps? Ditch the iPhone and get something else.

 
olapbill 2009-07-06 06:49:04 PM  
INTERTRON: olapbill: can I keep my "me so horny" app that inserts my face on to various hot asian chick bodies?

Thank you, olapbill. That was the joke.


happy to oblige. though I seem to have irreparably scarred some poor farkers with the set up.

 
detfrost1 [TotalFark] 2009-07-06 07:05:31 PM  
i286.photobucket.com

 
rpm 2009-07-06 07:10:07 PM  
Thorak: Let me know when it's an iPhone you absolutely need to have as your cell phone.

Don't like their policy on apps? Ditch the iPhone and get something else.


Wal-Mart is not the proper comparison, a company store is.

 
hej 2009-07-06 07:13:44 PM  
I often wonder what it would take before developers just don't want to deal with that platform anymore. Especially now that the iPhone app market is so crowded that making an app is far from the automatic cash cow it used to be.

 
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude [TotalFark] 2009-07-06 07:42:29 PM  
Wow, f*ck Apple.

 
RoxtarRyan [TotalFark] 2009-07-06 07:52:14 PM  
Showing once again that no one really owns an Apple product; you merely rent their products from them with the hopes that they will let you do what you want with it.

 
Gravyguts 2009-07-06 08:02:39 PM  
we need a new Statue of Liberty and my vote goes for one in detfrost1s post

 
jso2897 2009-07-06 08:51:44 PM  
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Wow, f*ck Apple.

Too small. Cantaloupe better.

 
Farking Canuck 2009-07-06 09:05:52 PM  
This is why I have never contributed to Apple's "iconomy" and I never will.

It is not that they have bad products ... it is because they control you and you pay a premium to put yourself under their thumb.

 
cthellis 2009-07-06 09:07:47 PM  
eqtworld: If Microsoft banned you from running programs on their PCs based on religion..

you fanboys would have a field day


I'm sure the length of the list of stuff Microsoft has banned on the Xbox is quite lengthy, and yet no one gives a shiat. Same with Sony and Nintendo and Sega and everyone else down through the years.

Stop thinking of it as a "PC"-like platform. A PC it is not. A Mac it is not. It's ultimately a console-like platform, and--in comparison--a lot more open.

 
ha-ha-guy 2009-07-06 11:06:21 PM  
Think about how Apple made its fortune with the iPod. Every single high school and middle school had to have one. When there was a new model, or even one that came in a new color they had to upgrade. They spent a lot of money on iTune musics (for every kid that can p2p there are five that can't).

Now for the iPod touch and iPhone (which pull from the same apps store) Apple needs to keep the store kid friendly. The last thing they need is the leadership of the religious right claiming Apple products will lead your kids astray, thus closing off the conservative parent market to Apple.

So they have a valid business to reject it here.

 
0xYossarian 2009-07-07 02:05:22 AM  
"May 11, 2009"

Old news is old.

 
WayToBlue 2009-07-07 02:29:27 AM  
Thorak

rpm: Kindly point to where you can get this app with a stock iPhone.

WayToBlue: I am not aware of any legal/supported way to load apps on an iPhone without going through their store. If you have one, let me know.

Let me know when it's an iPhone you absolutely need to have as your cell phone.

Don't like their policy on apps? Ditch the iPhone and get something else.


That addresses either of our questions, how? For the record, I don't own an iPhone, and this sort of thing is one of the chief reasons.

210Khamen suggested that there were legitimate alternative means to load these apps, which as I understand it is not the case. Your comments have no relevance to the issue.

 
King Keepo 2009-07-07 04:42:38 AM  
cthellis: I'm sure the length of the list of stuff Microsoft has banned on the Xbox is quite lengthy, and yet no one gives a shiat. Same with Sony and Nintendo and Sega and everyone else down through the years.

Indeed, but we don't know the certification rules for those companies and they don't allow homebrew products anyway. Besides, you don't need to be 18 (or however old it is to get a cell phone contract these days) to get a console so the target market is also different.

I would agree that the iPhone is a similar structure to a console though, with the exception that anyone and his dog can create an app for it. Basically a known set of hardware tied to an Apple sanctioned store for that truly monopolistic experience. Honestly, I'm amazed I haven't seen a raft of app store lawsuits yet.

And lastly, the real test for all this is "is there a me so holy app for Windows Mobile?" Would people even buy it if there was?

 
cthellis 2009-07-07 06:13:34 AM  
King Keepo: Indeed, but we don't know the certification rules for those companies and they don't allow homebrew products anyway. Besides, you don't need to be 18 (or however old it is to get a cell phone contract these days) to get a console so the target market is also different.

A) http://creators.xna.com/en-US/ = homebrew
B) PSN, and now even WiiWare and DSi-ware have taken to pushing smaller games by smaller teams, though admittedly they don't have completely open development.
C) I wasn't talking only about homebrew, since what people seem to get flustered over is any restrictions from "mean ol' Apple."

D) You don't have to be 18+ to get an iPod Touch, either.
E) The average age of a console gamer has just gotten older and older. (Though the Wii has probably skewed those results lately.)


King Keepo: And lastly, the real test for all this is "is there a me so holy app for Windows Mobile?" Would people even buy it if there was?

Probably not. But the crapware space is filled with lots of silly freebies for pointless entertainment. (And the App Store is filled with that, too.)

People just like to act as if the iPhone must accommodate everything, or else Apple is Evil(TM), all the while likely picking and enjoy other products from even more restrictive markets without even thinking about it.

If something offers enough value to you to be worth the price of entry, feel free to buy it. The end.

 
PsyLord 2009-07-07 10:48:56 AM  
Wasn't this greenlit a few months back? I could've sworn that I've read this before on Fark...

 
King Keepo 2009-07-07 10:53:44 AM  
cthellis: People just like to act as if the iPhone must accommodate everything, or else Apple is Evil(TM)

Isn't that the same argument that people level against Microsoft though? And I'm fine if it is. It's just an interesting one, and as I see it, the App store is a monopoly. How can you have competition between app stores if no others can be accessed by the phone (legally).

A) Well I totally forgot about XNA (smacks forehead). Just went through that link and it looks like it's all peer reviewed which is cool, although it's still bound to certain rules.
B) I guess technically anyone could start a software house and release a game, but those games still go through the exact same certification procedures. You cannot release on any of the consoles without certification.
C) I'm not sure there should be restrictions. Within their own store, fine. But seeing as only their store is available legally they are censoring content for me, which I'm less keen on.
D) I forgot the Touch had access to the App Store
E) Target market isn't just age, there are more factors involved although age is a large part

The bit that boggles my mind is that people actually feel the need to pay for this my-head-on-Jesus's-body crap.

 
dodecahedron [TotalFark] 2009-07-07 11:00:21 AM  
Easy solution: they should have an adult part of the app store that is only viewable and saleable to people who are over 18 and who click on a disclaimer saying that the content might be objectionable to some people.

They allow explicit music downloads for iPod, I'm sure they could allow tasteless iPhone apps. But you have to figure on where they'd still have to draw a line. Someone would want to develop a rape or a snuff app, you just know it.

Apple has always presented itself as family-friendly so this decision on their part shouldn't really be any surprise or source of indignant whining about censorship. They don't offer XXX-rated movie trailers on their website, either.

 
BumpInTheNight 2009-07-07 11:32:47 AM  
strothgar: I don't purchase apple products because I don't appreciate the weird way things hijack my PC when I plug them in.

I was born before 1990 and have gone to college so I can speak with some authority on the subject.

I prefer sansa myself.


Absolutely on both counts, I've great love for Sansa's habit of providing memory expansion slots too.

 
kbotc 2009-07-07 12:57:26 PM  
Arrrg...

Jailbreaking is not illegal. It's not illegitimate, and hell, if Apple refused you support because you jailbroke your phone, you could sue and most likely win. (Don't get me wrong, they don't have to support the jailbreak software, but they do have to support their software and the hardware) It's YOUR device. You decide what the heck you want to do with it. Installer.app and Cydia are both out there offering alternatives if you don't want to deal with Apple's closed system.

 
cthellis 2009-07-07 10:45:52 PM  
King Keepo: Isn't that the same argument that people level against Microsoft though? And I'm fine if it is.

Not really, no. What people level against Microsoft is getting to their position not through excellence in software creation, but through business savvy and timing and a willingness to exploit business advantages to get to a monopolistic position and leverage that position whenever possible. (Among other things, and one can certainly argue the impacts in each area.)

Since when do people go after Microsoft for the Xbox games they offer or don't? Hell, in Xbox-land, people seem perfectly thrilled to give them money to let them play games online, as well as clamp down on the service with an iron grip.

I have some problems with that myself, but I'm in no way a representative example of the general public... and even I don't make any sort of deal about what games they choose to sell or not.

King Keepo: It's just an interesting one, and as I see it, the App store is a monopoly. How can you have competition between app stores if no others can be accessed by the phone (legally).

Makes approximately as much sense as saying "I have a monopoly on cars that I own." One could say that TiVo has a monopoly on TiVo-licensed units, but you'd be pretty barmy to biatch about this when there's a large market for DVRs out there. Netflix has a "monopoly" on the movies that Netflix offers, but there are other sources for the media in the same form that Netflix directly offers (disk rentals or streaming), and there are many MORE sources for the media in formats that Netflix does NOT offer.

The App Store is Apple's distribution method for their own hardware, but the iPhone is far from the only smartphone out there, and the App Store is far from the only distribution method for software that can go to any matter of smartphone, feature-phone, and even Plain Jane phones. It's a "monopoly" only in the same way that Nintendo holds a "monopoly" for Wii gaming.

Meanwhile, not only does Apple NOT have a "monopoly" in the App Store, iTunes, with iPhones or even iPods (which they do have a larger marketshare), but they've never leveraged it anti-competitively in the same fashion that people criticize Microsoft for. Do they refuse to let stores carry iPods or iTunes gift cards if their competitors are sold alongside? Do they offer special "bargain prices" for ONLY carrying their products, compelling stores to have to follow suit to keep competing with each other?

Apple runs their own very-large-but-ultimately-still-closed system. There are innumerable examples of that that seemingly never attract an ounce of attention or giving-a-shiat-thereof.

King Keepo: A) Well I totally forgot about XNA (smacks forehead). Just went through that link and it looks like it's all peer reviewed which is cool, although it's still bound to certain rules.
B) I guess technically anyone could start a software house and release a game, but those games still go through the exact same certification procedures. You cannot release on any of the consoles without certification.


That's exactly what I mean. All the consoles ultimately have some sort of "rules" in place. One can easily criticize Apple for the uncertainty of their terms violation and arbitrary/hypocritical enforcement, but it's not a point to criticize it for being there at all. Many, MANY other examples exist, are purchased by millions, and loved to pieces--with no one bringing up a complaint from that angle. The case against the App Store seems to originate mainly from people who desire it to be what they think it should be.

No one's busy biatching at Nintendo for not making with the porn and heresy.

King Keepo: C) I'm not sure there should be restrictions. Within their own store, fine. But seeing as only their store is available legally they are censoring content for me, which I'm less keen on.

Microsoft and Sony and Nintendo all censor what content can be officially distributed through their channels. Walmart censors what products and be sold through their stores and what media content can be sold there. Television networks censor what shows will be aired, what specials produced, and what words can be spoken.

You may not be "keen" on it, but only the most hyperactively anti-censorship folk would go to the lengths necessary to avoid ALL of it. (In fact, they really can't avoid ALL... They can just take major pains to avoid MOST examples.) And considering most people aren't hyperactive anti-censorship nuts, I'm pretty sure the same folk who foam at the mouth regarding Apple's stance here are perfectly content to partake of the same thing from other sources.

Notice Apple doesn't give a shiat about the black market, either. They care about others trying to make money off their officially licensed content, but go ahead and hack your iPhones, stick Linux on your iPods, do whatever. They certainly don't pretend they'll stop anyone from jailbreaking their equipment (consider, by contrast, how often Sony updates the firmware in the PSP to try to cut down on all the hacking).

Apple just wants to run their own store. And since it's in no way the only store out there...

King Keepo: D) I forgot the Touch had access to the App Store
E) Target market isn't just age, there are more factors involved although age is a large part


Age also doesn't matter, in the end. It's not like being older or being more mature means you deserve to get whatever you want from a store. They sell what they want to sell, and you buy it or you don't.

I was mainly trying to figure out what you were getting at by pointing out other examples and prompting "...and then what?"

King Keepo: The bit that boggles my mind is that people actually feel the need to pay for this my-head-on-Jesus's-body crap.

Oh, I'm sure they didn't want to PAY for it... ;-)

 
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